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Title: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 26 January 2009, 19:29:15
This is a topic dedicated to random offtopicness. It's meant for just small things that don't justify a new thread. Be sure to check the dates of posts before replying, and reading from the back is recommended.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: gameboy on 27 January 2009, 17:19:20
what??? wheres the rest of it?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: modman on 28 January 2009, 22:42:01
Looks like Omega's was deemed exclusively off topic enough.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: modman on 29 January 2009, 03:38:21
I see that under most, if not all users nam es there are usually five stars.  Sometimes they are green, others are golden.  Explanation? ???
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 29 January 2009, 06:19:36
I see that under most, if not all users nam es there are usually five stars.  Sometimes they are green, others are golden.  Explanation? ???
Yellow/Golden = Regular user
Green = GAE team
Reddish-Brown (Auburn?  Burgundy?  Whatever color that is.) = Glest team

The number of starts is dependent on number of posts / rank (i.e. Technician, Battle Machine, Archmage).  That's what I've gleaned from it all, anyway.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 31 January 2009, 09:19:41
Johndh is right. the reason you see so many five stars though is because all of the big posters have five stars (me, modman, mictes, johndh, titi, etc;).

I guess it wouldn't hurt to use this for everything off topic until we have out own off topic board. *hint hint*

So, no need to worry about going offtopic here, everything is off topic! ;D
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: modman on 31 January 2009, 16:39:32
I believe General discussion was designed for that. ::)
But it would be nice to have a new board designated to Glest's future/planning.  This would discuss new releases, features, features to be, features wanted (GAE is not for this, because we want that in the Glest engine), also mods that are completed, website stuff/requests, mods on Glest that are not factions/techtrees/tilesets/maps/scenarios (new designs on the game art, new music, new game settings).  A breakdown:
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: hailstone on 1 February 2009, 01:11:28
Perhaps collaborative book writing to create a game design document.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: modman on 2 February 2009, 03:47:39
No, I'm just thinking I want a new board.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: @kukac@ on 2 February 2009, 17:17:33
I was reinstalling the Windows at the weekend, so while I was updating the drivers, I made a new desktop background for WinXP
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[img]http://kepfeltoltes.hu/090201/atlanka_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg[/img]
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 3 February 2009, 15:45:31
Another star wars background. I dunno why,. but I prefer the nature/landscape backgroundws. Dunno why....

I also just read twilight this weekend (I believe books have no gender) and it was great. Reading new moon now. Maybe one should make a vampire mod...? *thinks for two seconds* No! To unoriginal.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: battle machine man on 7 February 2009, 18:35:04
http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=37523 lol very annoying
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Post by: John.d.h on 7 February 2009, 18:44:16
http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=37523 lol very annoying
*facepalm*
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: @kukac@ on 7 February 2009, 19:26:38
Quote from: Stats
Total Categories:     4

Announcements, General, Content, and... OMG, what is the fourth categoty???
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 7 February 2009, 19:36:46
Quote from: Stats
Total Categories:     4
Announcements, General, Content, and... OMG, what is the fourth categoty???
Shhh!  It's a secret! :lol:
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: @kukac@ on 7 February 2009, 19:47:11
But I want to know so much...
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: modman on 7 February 2009, 23:33:14
@Kukac@ I love your signature about the light!
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: @kukac@ on 8 February 2009, 08:24:04
Tell me if I'm wrong :D :P
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 8 February 2009, 09:18:31
Heh, I agree about the sig.

Out of curiosity, and as a method of testing your mental stability, please answers this following question:
-A battleship comes down the street. What do you do?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: modman on 9 February 2009, 02:51:52
Wake up!

Or shoot it with your handy-dandy sniper rifle, whichever you prefer!
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 9 February 2009, 06:24:40
Or shoot it with your handy-dandy sniper rifle, whichever you prefer!
I've got a pellet gun.  Is that good enough?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: @kukac@ on 9 February 2009, 19:20:52
https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=587.msg4198#msg4198

 :o
Take a look at his sig. Is he using Modman's mods as his own? Or he is Modman with an another account?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: modman on 9 February 2009, 19:43:39
No, I only have one account.
shh (secret): for a couple days until I got my account back, RTSman was me.  Who guessed it?

And @Kukac@ who's signature are you talking about?  The last guy on the page of the link has a very interesting signature, but I doubt that's who you're talking about.  Who then?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: @kukac@ on 10 February 2009, 09:17:12
Gunthahaha's.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 11 February 2009, 15:26:47
Modman let that slip to me as well...
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: battle machine man on 14 February 2009, 18:08:43
Heh, I agree about the sig.

Out of curiosity, and as a method of testing your mental stability, please answers this following question:
-A battleship comes down the street. What do you do?
go see a doctor and if he sees it get a tank
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: battle machine man on 16 February 2009, 16:28:21
I was reinstalling the Windows at the weekend, so while I was updating the drivers, I made a new desktop background for WinXP


LOL basic windows background with a StarWars whatever from movie number what 5?

[It's unnecessary to quote that large picture. - @kukac@]
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 18 February 2009, 17:21:04
To all you motorists out there, make sure you look where you're going when you pull out onto the road.  There just might be someone in your way.

(http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/47/l_38834c3af2c34cd5aeac385c6dd8230d.jpg)

(http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/5/l_5e26805436c94523b1d283899c3351ab.jpg)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: modman on 19 February 2009, 01:06:52
Ouch!
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 19 February 2009, 03:14:58
Yeah... the funny thing is that if I would have been obeying the law (i.e. riding my bike on the street instead of the sidewalk) and this sort of thing happened, they'd be cleaning my remains off of University Blvd with a mop.

Civil disobedience for the win. 8)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 20 February 2009, 07:18:59
That's nothing! I have whipped so bad once on a country road near my house that I tore all the skin off my elbow, and put a nasty gash on my other wrist. I still have this huge scar from it. Even worse: I had to walk the rest of the mile home, the disadvantage of lonely country roads.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: modman on 26 February 2009, 03:10:51
Cool avatars! (http://www.coolavatars.net/funny_avatars.html)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 26 February 2009, 05:30:48
I don't think it's possible for my avatar to be any more awesome than it already is.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 26 February 2009, 15:38:57
Johns right... I'm trying to think of a good idea for making an animated GIF for myself, but not sure what it'll look like...
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: modman on 27 February 2009, 01:04:52
Apparently they don't like it when you link directly to their site, so I had to save to mediafire.  There's a lot of good ones at the site anyhow, so maybe you just want to take a peek.

I was going to do one with someone throwing a Poke-Mon (?) ball at Bush, but I though it would be hard to see.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 28 February 2009, 04:14:54
I saw that. Way more exciting than a shoe!

Bush, do your stuff, put people to sleep with your speech attack!
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: modman on 2 March 2009, 02:48:41
Actually, he's pretty good at speeches, but it's full of lies and politically loaded crap.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: modman on 2 March 2009, 03:41:10
The hardest game I've played in a while.  Download is below.  I lost after about 20 seconds.  Please tell me what you think; I found it on a game development community, so you should read the topic after you play (and lose).

The game download (http://www.venbrux.com/execution/Execution.zip) (I guarantee you it's not a virus 8)...I scanned it myself twice)
The discussion (http://gmc.yoyogames.com/index.php?showtopic=375097&st=0).  Please read only after you play at least twice.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 4 March 2009, 15:27:43
I need help with a javascript thing I was making for a webpage. It was supposed to activate a link after three things are clicked.

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function counter() {
   var counter = 0;

   counter++;

   if (counter = 3) {
      window.location = "nextpage.html";
   }
}
However, when I run it, I get redirected instantly. I think that it is just doing the counter++ endlessly from a single click. I want one click to bring the counter up one. I tried many things, including spliting into seperate functions or manually adding one (counter += 1) with no success. Any help is appreciated (and plesae test before submitting an answer).

@Modman - I downloaded the game, but won't be able to play until I get home. My goal: 21 seconds (or anything better than you! lol)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: jrepan on 4 March 2009, 19:52:54
I need help with a javascript thing I was making for a webpage. It was supposed to activate a link after three things are clicked.

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function counter() {
   var counter = 0;

   counter++;

   if (counter = 3) {
      window.location = "nextpage.html";
   }
}
However, when I run it, I get redirected instantly. I think that it is just doing the counter++ endlessly from a single click. I want one click to bring the counter up one. I tried many things, including spliting into seperate functions or manually adding one (counter += 1) with no success. Any help is appreciated (and plesae test before submitting an answer).
I haven't written Javascript lately, but I think you have to have == instead of = in if.(= is assignment, == is equality testing)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: modman on 5 March 2009, 02:22:51
We'll see about that. 8)  The game maker was clever in that the game doesn't let you play twice; you have to re-download it to try again.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: hailstone on 5 March 2009, 11:46:38
The other problem is each time the function is called, count will be set to 0, therefore the conditional statement is never true. Also it didn't work when variables and functions had the same name.

This works for me:
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<html>
<head>
<script type="text/javascript">
<!--
var count = 0;
function counter() {
    count++;
    if (count == 3) {
      window.location = "nextpage.html";
   }
}
//-->
</script>
</head>
<body>
<input type="button" value="Click me!" onclick="counter()" >
</body>
</html>
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 5 March 2009, 18:06:23
Ok, thanks hailstone.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 6 March 2009, 18:42:25
In a continuation of a windows 7 argument, I'd be careful downloading the beta. If I'm not mystaken, it'll terminate sometime in the summer. Also, I hear that it doesn't really have the programs come with it, but you have to download the other programs (ie: picture viewer) seperate. Of course, I never actually downloaded the beta, just heard of it, so I may be wrong.

In other topics, I've been wondering if anyone knows some good ebooks (free) for any of the subjects:
-PHP
-Databases
-Ajax
-Javascript (NOT Java)
-C++
-etc;
Thanks!
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: MadElf on 8 March 2009, 08:41:06
Have you guys tried to remove the color on the particle_proj files on units that attack with arrows?
It looks much cooler without those white lines, and more realistic.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 8 March 2009, 21:30:37
Have you guys tried to remove the color on the particle_proj files on units that attack with arrows?
It looks much cooler without those white lines, and more realistic.
And harder to see.
(Really need a good guide for JS, my forms only are working in IE because I only know one method)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: hailstone on 8 March 2009, 22:20:10
Try http://w3schools.com/js/default.asp
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 9 March 2009, 15:46:39
It's nice, but with my internet, I need a download. I can try to download the entire webpage, but that is difficult and I can only do on my personal computer, not the school ones.

Thanks though. (I was thinking either PDF, CHM, a zipped bunch of HTMLs, etc;)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: modman on 10 March 2009, 00:19:42
Did you try the game anyone?
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Post by: John.d.h on 10 March 2009, 01:00:24
I did.  I thought it would have been better if he didn't apply the judgment of "winning" and "losing" to the player's decision, since it's a subjective choice based on morality.  Saying one choice results in victory and the other results in defeat assumes that the designer's values are superior to the player's.  Do I believe I made the right choice?  Yep.  Does the designer agree?  Nope.  Is he right and am I wrong?  No.  Is he wrong and am I right?  No.  It's all opinion and philosophy and it comes down to an individual's moral values of right and wrong.  Aside from that, I like the concept of making a game with persistent consequences.  Too often in gaming we feel free to do whatever we want since we can just restart the game and be back where we started.  Something like this could be applied for a much deeper gaming experience, I think.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: modman on 10 March 2009, 01:37:38
OK, but could you make sure you don't give anything away...you could still talk about it, but please do not tell anyone how to win; I want them to figure out how to lose!
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 10 March 2009, 18:03:57
I played it then deleted it. Nothing really seems to happen except one game over then everything is done. And if I don't do IT, then nothing happens. WTF?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: modman on 10 March 2009, 22:37:29
I think you have to wait a while...
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 11 March 2009, 00:26:27
Apparently there's something you have to do that is not readily apparent and that you would have no reason to think of.  I know what it is, but I'm not telling. :)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 11 March 2009, 17:06:23
Doesn't matter to me anymore, I deleted it (heh).

Say, I never even got a chance to play GAE yet because my Kubuntu is glinched or something. Everytime it has to ask for a password, it won't let me type anything. I even tried all the submission types, and even the virtual keyboard to no success.

I heard some fantastic reviews about Fedora, so I might give that a shot. Any comments on that?
Other options include OpenSuSE, Mandriva, Linux Mint, and MEPIS.
Any help choosing?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: hailstone on 12 March 2009, 06:21:51
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Everytime it has to ask for a password, it won't let me type anything.
If that is on the console then it is intended. Just type and push enter.

openSUSE is my fav.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 13 March 2009, 04:37:47
Nah, it's a standard 'enter administer password' window. Eh, I never liked the names of all these programs anyway (k this, k that).

So you like OpenSuSE? I'm personally stuck between that and Fedora. I won't be able to download for some months even, so I got plenty of time to choose. Any other opinions?

EDIT// Concerning another thing:
How do you compile action script for SWF (ShockWave Flash) files? I never realized that I got no clue if there is even a free compiler.

And yeah, it needs to be free because I am probably the world's cheapest programmer. ;D

------------ NEW POST -----------------
I never answered my question above by the way, so I'm welcome to answers.

Anyway, it seems my thirst for knowledge is unquenchable, and I've already begun to work with PHP. Been meaning to learn that for a while. So I know the synastix, all the basics, and a bunch of the advanced stuff, even though I haven't even run it yet! (IIS needs this add-on sort of thing, which I'm downloading, and I am downloading Apache too). Is this valid for a form with php email?

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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">

<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
   <title>Contact</title>
</head>
<body>
<form action="contact.php" method="post">
<table border="0" cellpadding="3">
   <tr>
   <td>Name:</td>
   <td><input type="text" name="name" /></td>
   </tr>
   <tr>
   <td>Email:</td>
   <td><input type="text" name="email" /></td>
   </tr>
   <tr>
   <td>Text:</td>
   <td><textarea rows="4" cols="60" name="text" >Put your message here.</textarea></td>
   </tr>
</table>
</form>
<?php
   
// Get forms data and variables
   
$name $_POST["name"];
   
$email $_POST["email"];
   
$text $_POST["text"];
   
$to "omega99999-^-gmail.com";
   
$subject "Contact Reply from " $name;
   
$headers "From: " $email;
   
$message "This is a confirmation that the message was sent. It contained the following data: " $text;
   
   if (
$to!=NULL && $name!=NULL && $email!=NULL){
      echo 
"You cannot have a blank area";
   }
   else {
      
// Mail
      
mail($to,$subject,$text,$headers);
     
      
// State that the message was sent
      
echo "Thank you" $name "Your Message has been sent.";
   }
?>


</body>
</html>

SWEET! I didn't know code in PHP displays differently!
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 14 March 2009, 04:36:21
well my dads a programmer so he keeps are kubuntu running at his house(, i'm glad bacause at my mom's house she has a vista home basic and if you've had one you'll know the troubles they put you through)
and the only way he ever figures it out is by doing about two hours of research so...idk just look it up there tons of stuff out there
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 14 March 2009, 04:43:24
oh and if my last post here (besides this one) was rather random, you can blame Bill Gates or well this is the off topic topic
yah while i was at my mom's house i was playing glest after like 2 hours i was just about to win and the stupid thing automatically shut down without any warning at all, for some stupid updates that never do anything ::)
and then i turned it back on after flipping the dang switch about fifty thousand times ::) and it crashed loading the boot thingy
i seriously can't believe my mom's computer, that's why i like linux so much better cause you can do something without the whole thing freezing up for no reason

wow that was random, wait...no it wasn't that happened today and now i'm sitting on my linux and it's almost one o clock here in my timezone

have fun people!

i think i'll go to sleep now...............
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 14 March 2009, 04:48:49
You go to sleep at one? Early... (lol).

This is why to play in Windowed mode. I also have auto updates disabled for me. I manually trigger them when I want to have them triggered (like three times a year, heh).

And yeah, that was random...
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: hailstone on 14 March 2009, 07:17:44
@Omega: Your mail script looks ok, just a couple things.

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   if ($to!=NULL && $name!=NULL && $email!=NULL){
      echo "You cannot have a blank area";
   }
I think you mean $to==NULL , etc.

Also you aren't checking the validity of the user input to prevent email header injection.
http://securityreason.com/securityalert/2505
http://www.phpletter.com/PHP-Programming-Corner/Email-Header-Injection-Exploit/
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 15 March 2009, 08:56:39
I also realized something while I was thinking. Wouldn't the PHP script have to be in a seperate file than the html? Or else it will be sending the mail the second the page loads, not when the form submits. So the html page can have the form, and the action page can be the PHP.

And thanks for the header injection articles Hailstone. (Even though I don't actually understand them yet)

I think you mean $to==NULL , etc.
But isn't NULL basically a false value? Wouldn't a blank be a null? I just wanted it to check to see if its blank in the form, in which case to return an error. After uploading it online, I realized that that isn't going to work would
Code: [Select]
$to != "" work?

Another thing I noticed is that 110mb disallows the mail() function for free accounts. So, I'm curious, among all webservers, what would be the cheapest price for a domain with no restrictions, at least 100GB bandwidth, and unlimited (or at least a lot) of subdomains?

*RANT* Grr, I'm clueless on using Apache. Time to use plan B. What is plan B? Find out Here (http://www.zachsaw.co.cc/?pg=quickphp_php_tester_debugger&sub=quickphp_php_tester_debugger_moreinfo)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: hailstone on 15 March 2009, 09:28:51
Quote
Wouldn't the PHP script have to be in a seperate file than the html? Or else it will be sending the mail the second the page loads
When you load the page the text edits will be empty and you are going to check for that before sending. So in that case it won't but you can make sure it doesn't by checking for a submit button press (but you need to add it first with a name).
 
Code: [Select]
if($_POST['submitName']) {
// add code here
}

Quote
But isn't NULL basically a false value? Wouldn't a blank be a null? I just wanted it to check to see if its blank in the form, in which case to return an error.
That's right. The way you had it before would give the error if there was text. != NULL would return true ("" might work if NULL doesn't).

Code: [Select]
if (bool expression) {
// code for true condition
} else {
// code for false condition
}

http://byethost.com/ has php sendmail enabled on free accounts.

Here's another example of mail in php. http://www.w3schools.com/PHP/php_secure_mail.asp
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 15 March 2009, 10:04:34
Ah, now I can understand it a bit more (the header injection).

And now that I think of the way I represented the if statement, you are right about it being == not !=. Because I started with a false statement, and then let the else be true.

And thanks for the hosting suggestion! I don't know how I've never heard of this one before. (oh yeah, because google is flooded with ones claiming to be free...)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 22 March 2009, 08:55:59
Sorry for DPing.

I need some help making a script to read cookies. I just need to read the cookie value. I have the cookie set, and I know how to delete it, etc; but I need to read it properly. Many of the scripts for that are Regular Expressions, which are NOT my strong point, so could someone give me a good code with comments and tell me how to use it?

Thanks.

Also, I'm curious, how do I view the PHP source of a page? Whenever I choose view source (in FF), the PHP seems to be filtered out. I consider hands on experience to be the fastest and easiest way to learn something, so I want to see the source unfiltered, but (if possible) still with the synastix highlighting?

COPIED FROM ABOVE:

Concerning another thing:
How do you compile action script for SWF (ShockWave Flash) files? I never realized that I got no clue if there is even a free compiler.

And yeah, it needs to be free because I am probably the world's cheapest programmer. Grin
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: jrepan on 22 March 2009, 09:53:22
I need some help making a script to read cookies. I just need to read the cookie value. I have the cookie set, and I know how to delete it, etc; but I need to read it properly. Many of the scripts for that are Regular Expressions, which are NOT my strong point, so could someone give me a good code with comments and tell me how to use it?
http://php.net/manual/en/reserved.variables.cookies.php
Quote
Also, I'm curious, how do I view the PHP source of a page? Whenever I choose view source (in FF), the PHP seems to be filtered out. I consider hands on experience to be the fastest and easiest way to learn something, so I want to see the source unfiltered, but (if possible) still with the synastix highlighting?
You can't because PHP runs on a web server, which means that server sends only results(HTML, not PHP code).
PHP manual (http://www.php.net/manual/en/index.php) is quite good and also has examples.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: @kukac@ on 9 April 2009, 10:57:59
Quote from: archmage101
speaking of off topic..................

by the way i have something to say to omega...

Quote
you can blame my stupid school, they load me with homework all the time
Awe come on... Don't you think that's a LITTLE harsh. I mean, how are you gonna learn other stuff without school?

here's my answer:just to let you know MORE than 50% of everything i know was learned out of school
in fact i could read pretty well when i was about 5 years old, i learned most of my vocabulary from my Dad the internet and other various sources besides school. Besides i'm only in 6th grade, and they give you really easy stuff, i'd estimate that about 70% of the stuff they so-called "teach" is stuff i'll either never use or most likely already know. AND one more Rediculous thing! In language arts i did a poetry book(which was just a big waste of time) and i had to write about 26 poems in 26 days, i worked it out easy, but had to rush a bit in the end to get it done, and now guess what, were going to be doing ANOTHER poetry book in art class, and guess again!...it's the same poems all over again!
The teachers know and they think it's going to "help me learn tons of new stuff"!

You know i'd give quite a bit to have a school that actually knows what learning means, and doesn't load you up with all this rediculous homework, that ONLY wastes a lot of time.

sorry to kind of blurt all this out, i'm not trying to sound offensive, it's just the truth
and also moderators please don't lock this topic i just wanted to respond to  what omega said
i'll try to stay on topic in the future!

Quote from: Hailstone
Off topic again:
I completely agree with you archmage101. I ended up doing 2 university units while in my last year of high school. Fortunately I was spared the large amount of poetry. If you can, try to link outside projects with your school projects. For example, if you have an essay to write and have some flexibility. That way you can get marked on it and get what you want to do done. I did a video of Glest mods for one of my school projects. School is a really good place to test ideas and experiment.
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Post by: John.d.h on 9 April 2009, 13:47:50
Quote from: archmage101
MORE than 50% of everything i know was learned out of school
Unfortunately, society seems to be moving farther away from that all the time, from the extensional (learn by experiencing) to the intentional (learn by being told).  The problem with that is that you get a lot more out of experiencing something yourself than just being told about it.  It's like in that movie where some kid is trying to drive a car and somebody asks him "Have you ever done this before?" and he says "No, but I've seen my dad do it lots of times!"  Seeing and knowing something leads to a completely different kind of understanding than experiencing it for yourself.  I'm reminded of an old saying I read not too long ago.  "What is greater than all the teachings of the Buddha?  Sesame cake."  That is to say, no matter how wise or insightful someone's teachings may be, they're no substitute for something that is real and tangible.  (I'm not Buddhist, but I still think there's some wisdom in just about any belief system.)

Quote from: archmage101
i learned most of my vocabulary from ... the internet
Now that's a scary thought.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 9 April 2009, 18:46:54
Quote
Quote from: archmage101
i learned most of my vocabulary from ... the internet
Now that's a scary thought.

well i just don't know what something means i look it up and find out...what's wrong with that?
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Post by: Omega on 16 April 2009, 02:16:39
You are right. Everything about computers that I know, I learned by my self, online.

I learned how to read, my ABCs, many words, pronounciation (mine still is bad, though), and more. I learned a lot of math from the internet as well. and browsing random wikipedia pages CAN be interesting (though too many pages have too much information). Some would classify me as a Nerd, since I have some of the highest marks in my class, and am the top in mathmatics, Social Studies, and Health.

However, I got nothing against school (except maybe Industrial Arts, I find it kinda dull) and I still stand by my answer that school is a great learning experience, and I admit, I am one of those people who says that I 'like' school. (NOTE: I don't mean that I would prefer it over sitting at home playing video games all day, but I do enjoy many aspects).

I live in the country, so school is where I see 99% of my friends (I actually am more of the city type, I guess...).

In other words:

I'm planning for something, but I need to know this: what is the best way to make the layout for a game? If the game starts at a main menu, and can change to some other menus (options, credits, etc) with a click of a button, and the main part of the game has a number of levels, each which start with a avi video, then proceed until an if statement is true (ie: a certain enemy is dead, or you are standing in a certain location).

Without going into the advanced parts of the code, what is the basic layout that would work?

Could something like this work??? (simple layout):
Code: [Select]
#include <headers>

using namespace x;

int main(){
   <display intro video (logos, etc;)>
   <load>
   <custom crosshair cursor>
   <display menu>
}
void functionForMainMenu(){
   <main menu code, simple background video>
   <images placed at specific locations with mouseovers>
   <upon button clicks, new functions are loaded>
   <close button with function Close(), simply done>
}
void functionForNewGameButton(){
   <new game screen code>
   <start level one after button is clicked>
}
void levelOne(){
   <load all media required for level>
   <video, set delay so game will not start until video is completed>
   <level one code>
   <when complete, move to level two>
}
void levelTwo(){
   <load all media required for level>
   <video, set delay so game will not start until video is completed>
   <level two code>
   <when complete, move to level three>
}

...

void lastLevel(){
   <load all media required for level>
   <video, set delay so game will not start until video is completed>
   <last level code code>
   <when complete, play ending video, then credits video>
   <return to main menu>
}

void functionForContinueGameButton(){
   <gets the info from all xmls in the saved games folder>
   <places information, and allow loading>
   <places you at the start of a level, as determined by a tag
   in the XML>
   <gives you the weapons(s) as determined by a number in the XML>
}

void functionForOptionsButton(){
   <code for forms which write to an xml (don't know how to properly place in an ini>
   <when clicked the complete button, return to menu>
}

/**
   My code will not take the undocumented path that Glest has. It will be documented to
   Doxygen standards, and the comments will probably end up to be the majority of the file
   size in the code!
*/
I've been working with JavaScript a LOT lately, so ignore any possible errors and terms. Would this work? If so, where would I put the AI code (code to make them move, face me, and attack. Take cover if any is in the area, etc;)? Would it be new function, or even in the main()? The loading of the units and stuff would be in the levels function, so should I repeat that throughtout each level or make it a new function and call it from each level?

If you must know, this uses Irrlicht 1.5, and is an open-source 3D FPS game. I just need the basic layout of how this should go. I DO plan on checking out other open-source FPS (I only know one though: nexius, and its too large to download for a while). Any resources concerning AI programming would be a great asset too! (these days, every link I try is broken... Thanks rapidshare [ugh])

Lastly, any tips for Irrlicht, this game, ideas, etc; are accepted (though I'm keeping most things in secret. It could easily take me years to do this. For all I know, it could take until I am of drinking age [legally at least ;) ]).
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Post by: doomgamer on 17 April 2009, 13:27:48
God i hate vista
i hope windows 7 is better cause my mom has vista and half of the time i want to break her comp and sell it for srcap metal >:(
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Post by: Omega on 18 April 2009, 08:10:05
It can be quite good with knowledge.
Mine hasn't crashed for over two months (with vista's track record, that's pretty good).
I have like 100+ downloaded programs for various things, ~2000 songs, some videos, all on a laptop with no troubles. An avergish 2GB of DDR2 RAM, and 180 GB HDD. 800 MB graphics card gives me power to boot!

Say, while doing programming, I've noticed how Glest usually runs at a sluggish 14 FPS, while many Irilicht programs I've been working with have gone past the 400 FPS mark. With Real Time shadows, water effects, lights, models, animations, and a GUI, using D3D9, I can hit an average of 180 FPS. What's with glest that it's the odd one out?
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Post by: MadElf on 18 April 2009, 08:10:36
I hate vista too, my comp was Vista but we bought XP and re-installed it.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 18 April 2009, 14:20:20
yah i think that XP is the best one out so far

@omega:Mine hasn't crashed for over two months (with vista's track record, that's pretty good)
are you kidding!?! :o
first mine crashes just about everyday and my mom doesn't think she should do anything about it ::)
and secondly only 2 months, if i had a choice i would save all your file anyway that works and install kubuntu v8.10 over vista
cause mine has only had one complete crash and that was a long time ago(3-5 years)
i've had various other things but with linux you can always solve it
if things are getting sluggish and getting sticky and it keep getting stickier and more sluggish, than you can just hit ctrl+alt+esc and turn your mouse into a X
and if you click on something it's bye-bye no questions asked, and if it stays sludgy then just log out and back in and you'll be fine
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Post by: Omega on 18 April 2009, 17:17:43
Windows has the program advantage. Also, some MS programs do that verif check to make sure you have a legimate windows OS. Many games might not work on Linux, and WINE is not guarenteed to work. Windows is also the target for most software that modifies, and more. And I admit, I'm a sucker for the flashing lights and bells (eye candy) of windows Aero.

I am also pretty good at reducing my lag. While XP isn't bad, Vista does have some advantages. XP just happens to be more stable (but like I said, I haven't crashed for  a while). And why do you hit ctrl+alt+esc? I never have used that key code. Ever. If an app freezes, I give it a few seconds, then open task manager and shut down the process directly (just closing the app make lag). My biggest foe is IE, which crashes when trying to open some images (even with DEP [Data Execution Prevention] completely disabled). Then again, that IE, not vista.

Vista's biggest problem is too much security. If I could, I'd turn the entire security system off and let my custom antivirus and firewalls do their work. Another problem is DEP, which is a big cause of lag and crashes. Unfortunately, windows doesn't let you turn it off in any part of the UI. I googled until I found a command line function to permanently shut DEP down. For good. Best thing I ever did for Vista!
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Post by: -Archmage- on 18 April 2009, 18:59:09
so?
two awesome games that work fine on linux:
RPG: Last chaos
RTS: glest
besides you can use the package installer and install
games like 3D flight simulators
i have one installed right now it's so fun!
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Post by: hailstone on 19 April 2009, 00:24:18
Windows has the program advantage. Also, some MS programs do that verif check to make sure you have a legimate windows OS. Many games might not work on Linux, and WINE is not guarenteed to work. Windows is also the target for most software that modifies, and more. And I admit, I'm a sucker for the flashing lights and bells (eye candy) of windows Aero.

I am also pretty good at reducing my lag. While XP isn't bad, Vista does have some advantages. XP just happens to be more stable (but like I said, I haven't crashed for  a while). And why do you hit ctrl+alt+esc? I never have used that key code. Ever. If an app freezes, I give it a few seconds, then open task manager and shut down the process directly (just closing the app make lag). My biggest foe is IE, which crashes when trying to open some images (even with DEP [Data Execution Prevention] completely disabled). Then again, that IE, not vista.

Vista's biggest problem is too much security. If I could, I'd turn the entire security system off and let my custom antivirus and firewalls do their work. Another problem is DEP, which is a big cause of lag and crashes. Unfortunately, windows doesn't let you turn it off in any part of the UI. I googled until I found a command line function to permanently shut DEP down. For good. Best thing I ever did for Vista!
Linux has just as much if not more eye candy. Take a look at compiz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compiz) or Enlightenment desktop system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enlightenment_(window_manager)) and even KDE 4 is quite stylish.

ctrl+alt+esc is in Linux distributions which allows you to force kill an application without waiting (might only be KDE, I'm not sure). If IE is anything like in XP it is tied into the operating system.
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Post by: Omega on 19 April 2009, 16:43:56
Have you used IE anytime lately? While doing website debugging, I ran into a horde of lags, memory leaks, and other crappy effects of IE. Its not reliable for offline work. Online, it is just SLOW. In fact, the slowest browser ever. I prefer Firefox and Google Chrome way better.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 19 April 2009, 16:53:29
firefox is the best

here's a pic: (http://i43.tinypic.com/35j0ck4.png)
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Post by: doomgamer on 20 April 2009, 13:34:36
amen go firefox
my freinds comp crashed all the time beause of IE god i hate malware cause it killed her comp so bad i had to do a format and re-install (not complete waste of time i have a 360 8))and IE was still crashing

FireFox Rules
IE SUCKS @$$
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Post by: modman on 21 April 2009, 02:14:46
Glest runs slow because it renders the entire map all at once, including any particle systems you may not even see!  This is a necessary bug that needs to be fixed.
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Post by: John.d.h on 21 April 2009, 02:58:17
Glest runs slow because it renders the entire map all at once, including any particle systems you may not even see!  This is a necessary bug that needs to be fixed.
Then shouldn't it be in Bug Report?  Besides, you can't talk about Glest in the off topic!  :D
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Post by: modman on 24 April 2009, 03:06:26
I did post it as a bug.  However, fixing the network seems to be more important to the coders of GAE, so that probably won't even be looked at until that is fixed.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 24 April 2009, 18:40:50
yesterday was my birthday! ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: doomgamer on 24 April 2009, 18:52:45
Dude archmage happybirth day dude ;D
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Post by: -Archmage- on 24 April 2009, 18:53:41
thx :)
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Post by: Omega on 26 April 2009, 08:36:48
Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, you look like a... ah, forget it!

Happy b-day! I turn 15 on the 30th of May myself.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 26 April 2009, 14:38:32
Quote
Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, you look like a... ah, forget it!
happy birthday to you, happy birthday to you, you smell like a monkey, and you look like one toooooooooooooooooo.........
clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap  clap clap clap clap thunderclap!!!

well when i'm singing it:
happy birthday to me, happy birthday to me, happy birthday dear mmmmmeeeeeeeee....., and i just turned a-hundred-ththththththththththththththrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.........
clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap  clap clap clap clap thunderclap!!!
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Post by: MadElf on 26 April 2009, 23:44:53
Happy Birthday!

I'm only turning 15 on October  :'(.
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Post by: titi on 28 April 2009, 06:21:18
A bit late but
Happy Birthday
from me too!

Some of the things I do when I'm not modding/playing glest. A video showing me at my house flying the silverlit xtwin dasher.
( click the image below )
(http://www.xtwins.de/modelle/dasher/bilder/dasher.jpg) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZKa3zjFtJw&fmt=18)
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Post by: MadElf on 28 April 2009, 08:24:49
Whe I'm not playing games on the computer... I usually practice some Archery and Swimming, but most of the time I'm modding or playing a game...
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Post by: -Archmage- on 28 April 2009, 19:22:14
me:
play gamecube: legend of zelda(mostly): ocarina of time, soulcalibur II, Robotech battlecry.
go outside
play basketball
watch star trek
play the piano
play last chaos
go up to my cottage in litchfield and swim
i do lots of things when i'm not playing glest

you know i would fly a RC plane if mine worked
i have two helicopter's, but neither of them work :P
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Post by: MadElf on 28 April 2009, 23:53:28
Changing the topic of the off-topic (lol) I got an idea! Why don't we make a story for the world of glest? Like most of the Fantasy-like games, We have some basic races.
If anyone is interested please say it! I got some ideas already.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 28 April 2009, 23:59:28
hold on i'll post a topic on that one
good idea! :D
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Post by: Omega on 30 April 2009, 04:17:00
Hmm, when I'm not modding, I'm:

-Playing sports (I do every school sport!)
-Playing games (Zelda, Halo, Mercenaries, Final Fantasy, SSBB, etc;)
-Outdoors
-Working (P/T at a local green house)
-SRC
-SCHOOL!!!
-Learning geeky things online
-Teasing my sister
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Post by: doomgamer on 30 April 2009, 13:48:28
im
-stomping  noobs online
-stomping my brother into the ground
-playing video games
-stomping my friends in halo 3 and left 4 dead
-SCHOOL (god i hate school)
-and playing video games

Quote from my shirt
"video games destroyed my LIFE good thing i have 2 extra lives :X :X :X :) :)"
:X dead life
:) live life
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Post by: Omega on 30 April 2009, 18:42:28
-stomping  noobs online
I do this too in MMORGPs, but I'm a more friendly player, who has never violated a TOS, and I don't call people noobs because we all are at one time...
Of course, that doesn't mean that I don't own!
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Post by: -Archmage- on 30 April 2009, 19:01:53
in the legend of zelda who can tell me what i should do after i beat the 4th boss?
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Post by: John.d.h on 30 April 2009, 20:15:06
I've tried a few different MMORPGs, but the only one I've ever really stuck with for very long is Atlantica Online.  I played Eudemons for a while, but there really wasn't much to do in that game except stomp bigger and bigger monsters, breed stronger and stronger pets, then everybody gets bored when they get to really high levels b/c there's nothing else to do, so they just run around PK'ing everyone else, which got annoying.  Talisman Online and Martial Heroes were okay, but I got bored with them pretty quickly too.  I think the big appeal of Atlantica is that there is a wide variety of things to do and there are lots of different kinds of mercenaries you can play around with.  Plus, the game encourages teamwork way more than the others I've played, and that's really a lot more fun than playing alone.

I like pretty much any game that has a great story and allows the player to do a lot of different things, like the Elder Scrolls series (Arena and Morrowind are awesome, but I can't get Oblivion to work on my computer :() and Knights of the Old Republic.  Some of my other favorites are the Legend of Zelda series, Goldeneye, Half-Life 2 (though it was way too short imo), Halo 2, Age of Mythology, and Medieval Total War (in fact, a few of the units from my mod are inspired by this game).  I also like Glest, but I spend way more time modding than playing, so I kinda suck at it. XD

When I'm not modding or playing games, I spend a lot of time at school and the gym, a bit too much time talking to strangers on Meebo, and as much time as possible rocking out at some sweet shows (my favorite band is playing three concerts all across Florida next month, so I'm pretty psyched). :)

in the legend of zelda who can tell me what i should do after i beat the 4th boss?
Beat the fifth one, of course. :P
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Post by: hailstone on 1 May 2009, 00:01:22
I get bored of MMORPGs pretty quickly. I found http://www.valkyriesky.net/ehome/ interesting because it uses arcade style for the battling. Unfortunately it was only a beta and it hasn't reopened. The other one I played for a while was http://swordofthenewworld.gamersfirst.com/index.php . It has nice graphics and you control 3 characters instead of the usual 1. It's more interesting than most but still has a lot of grinding. My brother played http://vc.igg.com/main.php for quite a while.
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Post by: MadElf on 1 May 2009, 01:07:15
A game a really like is OGame, it is online and there is no "Premium" what is really annoiyng in most online games, there are always people showing off because of their premiums.
I also like WoW, is the only game in the internet I would pay for, the only I think actually deserves it. :)
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Post by: doomgamer on 1 May 2009, 12:28:52
by stomping noobs i mean new people want to chalange me for my stuff (stupid noobs) and forget that im high level with realy good stuff and i shut the bragers up most of the time

I play last choas and (once in a while) runescape and maple story
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Post by: Omega on 4 May 2009, 18:52:12
in the legend of zelda who can tell me what i should do after i beat the 4th boss?
Which LoZ? Is it Twilight Princess? I beat that 3 times, and in one save, I clocked over 120 hrs, unlocked all hearts, got everything, all golden bugs, magic armor, and went through trial of ordeals twice!

Other zelda games I got no clue... Been too long.

In MMORPGs, I like Runescape, though lots of people flame it I guess... Kinda dull after 100+ hours without membership. But got no money. Gwah hah hah... Ah, life sucks (virtually speaking).
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Post by: -Archmage- on 4 May 2009, 23:29:44
runescape is old :P
last chaos is way better

i'm talking about twilight princess right now, but before i was talking about ocarina of time
i'm not doing very well in twilight princess right now, i'm on the forest temple and i can't beat it
i'm on the part where you use the boomerang to hit the switches on the posts to open a door and get the big key
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Post by: John.d.h on 5 May 2009, 18:45:28
Tons of free legal music from a bunch of different genres, mostly indie bands but maybe a few you've heard of.
http://www.trueanthem.com/Wonka/Default.aspx (http://www.trueanthem.com/Wonka/Default.aspx)
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Post by: -Archmage- on 5 May 2009, 20:08:27
cool john :)

@omega: i beat the temple now i'm on karkariko village
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Post by: Omega on 5 May 2009, 20:35:34
i'm on the part where you use the boomerang to hit the switches on the posts to open a door and get the big key
LOL, that's the first dungeon! Wait until you hit the water temple before you cry uncle.
There's game guides here: gamefaqs.com (http://gamefaqs.com).

*Don't give up, its a great game!
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Post by: titi on 11 May 2009, 15:02:07

test this:
http://www.85qm.de/up/BigRedButton.swf
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Post by: Omega on 11 May 2009, 18:48:53
test this:
http://www.85qm.de/up/BigRedButton.swf
That is so much fun! Thank you soooo much Titi. Who ever thought pushing a big red button could be so much fun???
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Post by: -Archmage- on 11 May 2009, 20:23:54
that's cool

 :)

@omega: i'm on the third temple
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Post by: John.d.h on 14 May 2009, 00:04:01
Anybody else have a deviantART page?  I just made one to showcase my models and to find pictures I could use as textures and whatnot.  If you've got one, post it here and I'll take a look!

http://johndh.deviantart.com/ (http://johndh.deviantart.com/)
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Post by: Omega on 15 May 2009, 19:51:16
@omega: i'm on the third temple
Ah, I can't remember the numbers... I think the water one? That's a tricky one. Took me three hours, of which probably 1 was spent wondering around... Can't help you unless you get a LOT more specific though. (and I recommend a good guide, look on google or gamefaqs).

@John  - Who needs deviantart when you have your own webpage? And I like to keep most of my models secret until I release them, and the few I post will get seen more on the Glest Board.
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Post by: John.d.h on 16 May 2009, 04:24:33
I just made mine because I wanted to ask a couple people if I could use their logos, and I figured I might as well put my work on there while I was at it.  It's not nearly as complete as my thread on here or my ModDB page, though.  I was mostly just curious if anyone else had any artwork they wanted to show off.
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Post by: njdnjd3 on 16 May 2009, 05:55:19
speaking as Archmage101:

omega: now i'm on the 4th temple

and this person(standing right next to me) is the owner of this account, and is my best friend and he's beaten the game 3 times, gotten all the heart pieces, and he's clocked way over 120 hours on this game

i've got all the help i need
besides i figure a lot of it out myself

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Post by: Omega on 17 May 2009, 08:50:31
Ha, nothing. I have two saves, I went through the entire game, got all the heart pieces/containers, all the golden bugs, every feature that could be done, I did, I got all the golden bugs, all the poe souls, got roughly 130ish hours, I have the biggest wallet, maxed out of course, and magic armor (w00t). I also have unparalleled skill, have unlocked all the hidden attacks, went through the cave of ordeals twice (the second time has more monsters), unlocked all the fairy springs, allowed access to fairies tears, and more! Oh course, its been almost a year since I dusted off that game. In fact, I've spent most of my time lately on my 360 rather than my Wii...

@John - Yeah, good intentions, though I am curious what you mean by logo (the sun's logo? Not meaning to pry, though). Although one can logically asume that most artwork would be available on the Glest Board if not anywhere else...
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Post by: John.d.h on 17 May 2009, 22:35:04
Well, so far I found a logo to put on a shield (http://katterina.deviantart.com/art/My-tattoo-First-Picture-99350370) and I've been looking for some cool body art for the Ancestral Warrior, like maybe a tree tattoo to put on his back or something like that, but haven't found anything that really catches my eye just yet.

Regarding Ocarina of Time, ever tried the 3-heart challenge?  It's pretty challenging, but if you're as good as I am (and it sounds like you are), you should be able to complete it.  I got to the battle with the fire dragon before I got sidetracked with real life and had to give up.  Now my N64 is still at my folks' house like two and half hours away from here. *sigh*
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Post by: Omega on 19 May 2009, 15:52:39
I've never done the three heart challenge, because it is too hard for me... I'm hardly that good.
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Post by: njdnjd3 on 20 May 2009, 21:49:30
Quote
Ha, nothing. I have two saves, I went through the entire game, got all the heart pieces/containers, all the golden bugs, every feature that could be done, I did, I got all the golden bugs, all the poe souls, got roughly 130ish hours, I have the biggest wallet, maxed out of course, and magic armor (w00t). I also have unparalleled skill, have unlocked all the hidden attacks, went through the cave of ordeals twice (the second time has more monsters), unlocked all the fairy springs, allowed access to fairies tears, and more!

i beat all that in 100ish hours i didn't get scared on the zora temple i didn't start crying to my uncle either on the twilight zone i mightove because that hand scared the crap out of me! probablly u too omega

when did you first beat the game?
i beat the 3 heart challenge once it was so easy beat that!  :P
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Post by: njdnjd3 on 20 May 2009, 21:50:47
i'm 12 and i beat the game when i was 9 or 10 beat that!!!!! :P OMEGA!
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Post by: Omega on 21 May 2009, 18:49:04
How can I beat that? I wasn't even that old when it came out!
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Post by: -Archmage- on 22 May 2009, 23:04:20
he's being a little harsh, he said that you were bragging
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Post by: -Archmage- on 22 May 2009, 23:06:56
well i beat the temple of time in 1 hour and 50 minutes not help on that
and i'm on the sky temple.
Have the boss key and other good stuff like double clawshot
mmy friend said this was the hardest temple...it is pretty hard but not that hard
although i do find it the hardest of the temples but still............................... ::)
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Post by: MadElf on 23 May 2009, 00:04:19
I have no idea what you guys are talking about.  :P
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Post by: Omega on 23 May 2009, 04:25:19
Madelf, you got no clue because you obviously don't play Legend of Zelda.

Archmage101, I am not trying to brag, so don't let your friends believe so. I just happen to really love Zelda.

@njdnj3 - I'm not sure what is so scary about zora temple (sure the eyeballs stuff is a bit odd, but not really scary). On the other hand, the twilight temples hand is nightmare content, but only because it would get me everytime, over and over! I eventually got so paranoid that I now have a general fear that a giant hand is going to come up behind me, slam me on the head, and take my precious balls. No, that isn't sarcasm, I'm serious!

when did you first beat the game?
i beat the 3 heart challenge once it was so easy beat that!  :P
I can't remember when I first beat it. I know that I got it the christmas after it came out, and beat it in less than two weeks (~1.5).

I actually probably COULD do the three heart challenge, but I don't WANT to. I am a completionist, who maxes everything that can be maxed. THis is maybe part of the reason that RPGs (like final fantasy) are my favorite games. Every game I have, I max. Of course, that doesn't mean that I get all the XBOX 360 achievements. Too many are multiplayer based, and I have no broadband internet...
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Post by: ElimiNator on 23 May 2009, 04:34:15
This is glest not Legend of Zelda.

Why are you talking about that here?

                    ???
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Post by: MadElf on 23 May 2009, 06:46:12
Because here my friend is the Off Topic!!!  ;D ;D ;D
Amazing isn't it?
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Post by: -Archmage- on 23 May 2009, 12:57:33
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This is glest not Legend of Zelda.

Why are you talking about that here?

because this is the "off topic" topic if you haven't noticed :P
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Post by: Omega on 24 May 2009, 08:51:56
Jeeze, this is the OFF TOPIC thread. You can talk about anything EXCEPT Glest!

 :P
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Post by: ElimiNator on 25 May 2009, 02:49:16
Did you ever play super tux?

(http://www.soft-haus.com/family/jnet/My%20images/Supertuksss.GIF)

(http://www.soft-haus.com/family/jnet/My%20images/Supertuksss2.GIF)

Down load it here:
http://www.soft-haus.com/family/jnet/game/supertux-0.3.0-win32-setup.zip (http://www.soft-haus.com/family/jnet/game/supertux-0.3.0-win32-setup.zip)
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Post by: MadElf on 25 May 2009, 08:03:59
Soem awesome games I play too:

www.ikariam.com

www.ogame.org

www.runescape.com  ;D

Also paying games:

www.worldofwarcraft.com

www.zootycoon.com

www.thesims.com

 ;D
Ps: If you guys want to make an account on Ikariam, make it on world Epsilon, I'm there and I could help you guys.
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Post by: njdnjd3 on 25 May 2009, 12:52:35
archmage101 speaking:

i'm on sky temple got boss key and everything just need to find way to get to the boss

i 've played super tux but i suck at it, there are way better tux games :P
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Post by: assassin on 25 May 2009, 13:09:12
Like?
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Post by: -Archmage- on 25 May 2009, 15:17:12
ok i just killed "Usurper King Zants" but fat butt
wow that was fun ;D
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Post by: Omega on 25 May 2009, 15:46:34
Zant's fun to beat, isn't he? Wait till you get gannon(dorf).

That was a thrill a minute!
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Post by: ElimiNator on 25 May 2009, 16:17:41
How can I get this game

ok i just killed "Usurper King Zants" but fat butt
wow that was fun ;D
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Post by: Omega on 25 May 2009, 18:38:17
Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess for the Wii and GCN.

If you have a Wii (and who doesn't?) you need this game, which is by far the best game on the console.

How can I get this game
Any Walmart should do.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 25 May 2009, 18:51:07
if you have a gamecube like me
then just go to gamestop and buy it used for $35

that's my story

boo yah!!!!
i just beat the game :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Post by: doomgamer on 25 May 2009, 23:44:48
im srry to say this but you guys are starting to make me hate zelda and 360 is better with fps like halo3 and GRAW2 and Left 4 dead and portal(best puzzle ever)' some non-fps games 'like GoW2 and Army of 2' plus some of the best arcade games ever and the 360 version of Soul Caliber 4 has Yoda 'go yoda'

srry for all the text havent been here in a while and wanted to post again

and love the bigredbutton game play it and suplement the text with GlAdIs'S voice 'note GlAdIs is the main bad game in portal, a realy anoying ai that trys to trick you with guilt trips from hell'
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Post by: ElimiNator on 26 May 2009, 01:08:10
Paint ball is a fun free 3d game.

Here are some pics.

(http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs007.snc1/2837_1116074032332_1541414237_268258_6978219_n.jpg)
(http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs007.snc1/2837_1116078872453_1541414237_268269_4940031_n.jpg)
(http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs007.snc1/2837_1116078912454_1541414237_268270_6216901_n.jpg)
(http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs007.snc1/2837_1116078992456_1541414237_268272_1009974_n.jpg)
(http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs007.snc1/2837_1116079072458_1541414237_268274_8242357_n.jpg)
(http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs007.snc1/2837_1116079152460_1541414237_268276_624307_n.jpg)
(http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs007.snc1/2837_1116079392466_1541414237_268282_1381873_n.jpg)
(http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs007.snc1/2837_1116079712474_1541414237_268289_7906885_n.jpg)
(http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs007.snc1/2837_1116079752475_1541414237_268290_6122473_n.jpg)
(http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs007.snc1/2837_1116079832477_1541414237_268292_5880209_n.jpg)
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Post by: assassin on 26 May 2009, 08:40:51
I like Sauerbraten:
(http://sauerbraten.sourceforge.net/newerer/screenshot_1758308.jpg)
(http://sauerbraten.sourceforge.net/newerer/screenshot_2073037.jpg)
(http://sauerbraten.sourceforge.net/newerer/screenshot_2128789.jpg)

and secret maryo chronicles:
(http://www.secretmaryo.org/images/screenshot/1.7/media/2.png)
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Post by: ElimiNator on 26 May 2009, 15:57:15
Ya Sauerbraten is fun I have it.
Secret maryo chronicles is ok. But the guy goes so fast, I cant steer him very good.
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Post by: Omega on 26 May 2009, 18:41:53
im srry to say this but you guys are starting to make me hate zelda and 360 is better with fps like halo3 and GRAW2 and Left 4 dead and portal(best puzzle ever)' some non-fps games 'like GoW2 and Army of 2' plus some of the best arcade games ever and the 360 version of Soul Caliber 4 has Yoda 'go yoda'
I actually agree. While I like the Wiis controls, the games are often too casual for hardcores like me. i really like my 360, but hate having no internet (need broadband, wah!).

I recently got addicted to Mercenaries 2. I know its not a new game, but I actually passed it off until a friend advised me. I am so glad I played it. I mean, I've spent 150+ hours on three accounts. It only cost me $25 anyway. Got addicted to fully destructable environments FAST. However, the glinches are very numerous, due to poor testing. Still an awesome game though!
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Post by: hailstone on 26 May 2009, 22:37:55
If you're interested in fully destructible environments then take a look at Red Faction 3. The buildings need to be designed so they are structurally sound otherwise they fall over. Red Faction 2 has destructible walls.
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Post by: Omega on 26 May 2009, 22:50:31
Hmm, I had never heard of it before. I googled, but most links seemed to be unofficial. Do you have an official website?
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Post by: -Archmage- on 26 May 2009, 23:43:16
Omega...in terms of video games it sounds like you're spoiled :P
as least compared to me

all i have is a Gamecube

i wish that they would make another Zelda game that is harder and more fun
and at least make it so the bosses aren't so easy to beat

the temples could be smaller, but have more mini bosses and instead of getting one big key they should have it so you have to get 2 pieces and join them together key.

And quite importantly when you die or when you shut the game off(after a save) i wish it would start you off in the room you died or turned the game off 
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Post by: Omega on 27 May 2009, 01:10:54
I am hardly spoiled. While I admit I have a Wii, Gamecube, Laptop, PS2, DS, and a TV (just a simple $90 20" CRT), I bought all of this with money earned from working P/T at a nearby greenhouse. I also have around $3000 dollars raised towards a car, and I still have just over a year to go until I am 16. I'll turn 15 on the 30th (happy birthday to me).

Nothing wrong with the gamecube. My LoZ:TP is on the GCN. I didn't get a Wii until almost three months after getting the game.

BTW: I agree with all your points to improve the next game except the 'smaller temples' clause.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 27 May 2009, 01:44:08
well i don't like how the temples are so big

how about smaller temple but much harder to figure how

like instead of 15-45 rooms, have 5-20

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Post by: hailstone on 27 May 2009, 06:36:38
Hmm, I had never heard of it before. I googled, but most links seemed to be unofficial. Do you have an official website?

http://www.redfaction.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Faction_3
Red Faction 3: Destruction (developer vid) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2UTQpGpq98
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Post by: gameboy on 27 May 2009, 08:41:43
Check some concept art for a rts game i'm working on.
(http://www3.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/ab16ddac519b4e7c13b1e18c9bf69b1a5g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=5mngdgwztgg&thumb=4)
(http://www4.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/d480c4edb96a5ebc6e4f11054304d5295g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=hzh2moehdzg&thumb=4)
(http://www2.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/62308f75658726ce067e4289effdb32a5g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=zmytdjidzjz&thumb=4)
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Post by: doomgamer on 28 May 2009, 00:42:06
omega, i beat mercinaries 2 when it came out (too short) cause i rented it and try saving up for Fallout 3 cause it is a 60+ hour game and they came out with a expansion pack that has two bonus addon storys for after you beat the game and at walmart they have the first 3 fallouts for $20 + when i go over to my grandma's house my uncle has high-speed internet that lets me play halo 3 online
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Post by: titi on 28 May 2009, 08:20:34
the games I like:

- Nexuiz ( www.nexuiz.com ) this one is free!

- World of Goo , this one is really cool! ( http://www.worldofgoo.com/ )

- Unreal tournament 2004 , An old but great game with a huge modding scene changing this game into nearly everything
For example car racing (http://www.moddb.com/mods/unwheel) or medieval dragon fights (http://www.moddb.com/mods/the-soulkeeper/images/dragon-vs-artedian-captain) , or a  sonic game (http://www.moddb.com/mods/ashura-dark-reign) .

- Flatout2/ Flatoutjoint best car racing game ever! ( some screenshots: http://www.mobygames.com/game/flatout-2/screenshots
 and here is the modding scene: http://flatoutjoint.com/ )
 !!!One Hint!!! Flatout 2 uses Starforce copy protection! You should always install it with a noCd crack, its better for your windows and if you are using linux you can then play it with wine !

All these games run perfect in linux( maybe better  ;) ) only Flatout2 is a Windows game and needs wine to work ( but without Multiplayer yet  :'( :'( :'( )
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Post by: assassin on 28 May 2009, 14:44:18
Unreal tournament looks very good.

My favourite console game is ratchet and clank:
(http://www.gamerstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/ratchet_and_clank_size_matters_1.jpg)
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Post by: ElimiNator on 28 May 2009, 16:41:19
Ya world of goo is cool
and you can buy n download (2D though)
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Post by: -Archmage- on 2 June 2009, 21:45:47
hey guys i just got a full sized sword: The Master Sword  ;D ;D ;D

i'm not joking i'll post some pics some :)
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Post by: MadElf on 2 June 2009, 23:56:24
hey guys i just got a full sized sword: The Master Sword  ;D ;D ;D

i'm not joking i'll post some pics some :)

A real sword? My dream is to get one of those High Elven swords like this:

http://www.cbswords.com/product_info.php/cPath/21/products_id/214

 :o
They are gorgeous!
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Post by: -Archmage- on 3 June 2009, 02:27:52
here:  ;D ;D ;D

sorry about the rotation of the pics :P

me holding the sword(sword is 42 inches in length overall)
(http://i39.tinypic.com/30u34ud.jpg)

me about to swing this heavy thing
(http://i40.tinypic.com/x5qxy1.jpg)

you know...it only weighs 3 pounds, but it's pretty heavy and it's hard to swing repeatedly

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Post by: MadElf on 3 June 2009, 10:34:00
Just wondering, is not a real sword is it?
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Post by: gameboy on 3 June 2009, 11:38:56
yeah, it looks like yellow plastic. ???
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Post by: Hectate on 3 June 2009, 13:01:13
yeah, it looks like yellow plastic. ???
Notice it's color is different in the first picture? The late sun (long striped shadows - it's sunset time!) is applying a heavy orange/yellow glow to everything in the picture, even more so in the second image. I lived in a house for a while where the sun would shine right on our sun-room right until it went over the horizon and everything would be a bright golden color. I called it the Midas time.
But it might still be plastic I suppose.
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Post by: silnarm on 3 June 2009, 13:50:06
Also, looking at the second pic, if you observe where the sun is shining from, where the sword is relative to archmage, and the colour of his t-shirt... well, it all kinda makes sense doesn't it... swords are shiny after all, and shiny things reflect light, colours and all :)
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Post by: gameboy on 3 June 2009, 18:37:22
oh, i didn't see the first pic, it didn't load the first time.
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Post by: modman on 3 June 2009, 19:41:06
Do we really need photo analysis?!  I believe him.  If he was lying he wouldn't have made such a big deal about it.
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Post by: Hectate on 3 June 2009, 21:01:38
Sorry, geekness takes over in situations like this :) Photo analysis is exactly what you should expect!

I saw a dash-cam video of a car getting hit while a trooper was talking to the driver (luckily from the passenger side, he had only minor injuries). The lady showing me the video was convinced it was a mini-van that hit the other vehicle (hard to tell) but I thought it was an SUV. I eventually won when I pointed out the location of the door handles didn't correspond with a sliding door common on a mini-van.

So forensic photographic analysis is just hobby-work for us, lol!
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Post by: MadElf on 4 June 2009, 08:55:33
Do we really need photo analysis?!  I believe him.  If he was lying he wouldn't have made such a big deal about it.

Believe him? I dont get it, what do you mean?
We are just discussing, we are not saying he is lying or anything, it is just because when he said sword I had in mind a real meatal sword, anyways, metal or not, no one said he was lying.  ;)
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Post by: Trappin on 5 June 2009, 08:12:55
Film producers call late day sunshine "the golden hour" and a good example of this effect on film is the movie Stargate - the German director talks about it on the commentary track of the extended cut DVD version.

Color 'bounces" off of walls, clothing, house drapes, carpets and hardwood flooring and/or anything found in nature. In fact, many people will go to a paint store and pick out a color that looks good on a sample chip -  lit by sodium or fluorescent lights in the store - and then paint the new color on a wall at home and be shocked by how different the color appears to be.

Incandescent (golden yellow), CFL( blue/green), LED( pure white) and halogen (white) lighting also affect color bounce on white or contrasting colors painted on walls.

The sword is silver(mirror effect) and is reflecting light and colors back at the camera.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 5 June 2009, 22:54:41
Ok people, to inform you it is a metal sword

it does weigh 3 pounds(but trust me you would think it was at least 10)
and the weigh is mostly in the blade and handle is wooden, the sword has a full tang

@Madelf: That elven sword is a replica made only for putting on show, if i were you i'd look for something you can use

My point is, i know what a sword looks like, and i don't wanna keep looking at it, so that's one of the reasons i bought this sword, i like to wield weapons not look at them, cause you can do that anywhere on the internet

it is a pretty nifty sword though :)
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Post by: MadElf on 5 June 2009, 23:19:34
Ya, but well, I think if you want to fight with swords you should do that sport that I forgot the name, the one with thin sowrds and white clothing.
This:
http://www.teleantioquia.com.co/Programas/CajadeSorpresas/Imgs/DibujosYLetras/Esgrima1.jpg

I practice archery because I like to do it in games, so I thought, why not in real life too? I started doing it and liked a lot.
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Post by: hailstone on 5 June 2009, 23:49:11
Ya, but well, I think if you want to fight with swords you should do that sport that I forgot the name, the one with thin sowrds and white clothing.
This:
http://www.teleantioquia.com.co/Programas/CajadeSorpresas/Imgs/DibujosYLetras/Esgrima1.jpg
fencing
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Post by: John.d.h on 6 June 2009, 00:36:08
My mom's husband has a katana that his dad got in World War 2 from a Japanese officer he killed.  It's pretty cool, but a lot heavier than it looks.  It's still in good condition and I'm sure it could do some serious damage.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 6 June 2009, 02:49:25
wow
i've only seen a katana
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Post by: Trappin on 6 June 2009, 13:46:34
dad got in World War 2 from a Japanese officer he killed.

Those weapons always have the Japanese family name inscribed on the sword or a script/note tucked into a pocket inside the handle. The Japanese were/are very serious about these family heirlooms and it's very possible the family survived the war and would appreciate knowing what happened to the sword.
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Post by: modman on 8 June 2009, 00:52:43
I held a katana once in history class and it was a lot lighter than I expected.  Its (wooden) sheath is heavier than the sword!

Oh and yes it was during class and nobody died. ;)
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Post by: Omega on 12 June 2009, 01:32:28
I've only seen katanas (in Final Fantasy). I've actually seen real ones before in a museum once, along with a samari suit, but never got to feel one...



BTW: I have a sort of question to ask everyone (to get some more discussion going): What is your favorite web browser, why, and what version do you have?

Mine is by far firefox, of which I have the version 3.x something (the newest as of last month, can't remember the exact version...). My second favorite is safari, which I use when speed is a factor. I use v4.

* As a web designer, I hate having multiple browsers out there, as well as older browsers. My Glest Guide shuns IE, but works on everything else (I can't understand how, I've literally tried everything my amazingly young, yet sharp brain can rack up). There's also those nice features that are only available for some browsers, as well as javascript code that is browser specific. To be truthful, I would support someone putting all the browser specific good parts and browser features (think of it as ultra firefox, with all those ie only things [marqees, etc;]) all compiled into one! Of course, it won't happen, and I don't even expect it, because even if it did happen, other web browsers still exist... We need serious standardization. My browser (firefox) just failed the acid3 test (a test for browser compatibility) try yours here at:

http://acid3.acidtests.org/

My browser only got 70... Yet safari got 100, which is why I started using it more. It is very good too. Check out the 150 features that apple boasts:

http://www.apple.com/safari/features.html

What about you guys?
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Post by: hailstone on 12 June 2009, 03:59:17
Firefox 3.5 prerelease (http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/fastest/?utm_source=gsnippet&utm_content=fastfx&utm_campaign=s060109) is out. It's meant to be 2x faster than the previous one.

Firefox is the browser I use the most but Opera is also a very good one. I try to avoid IE as much as possible.

I've never used Safari or Chrome so I can't give any opinion on them. I'd be interested in how they compare with the new Firefox when it's released.

PS: My acid 3 test for Firefox 3.0.10 got 71
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Post by: silnarm on 12 June 2009, 05:25:11
General use: Firefox
Also installed: Opera, Safari.

I consider using IE akin to Russian Roulette, and so try to uninstall it as best I can on my 'working machine' (on a windoze box, it seems you can never get rid of it completely...) Unfortunately I frequently need to make sure things display properly in it...

I've never used Safari or Chrome so I can't give any opinion on them. I'd be interested in how they compare with the new Firefox when it's released.

My girlfriend uses Chrome, it's quiet fast, but still crashes occasionally.
Safari is Konqueror in disguise, hence it's also very fast.

Looking forward to a faster Firefox... I couldn't live without my Adblock Plus!
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Post by: gameboy on 12 June 2009, 08:49:58
Chrome is the best there is, i've been using it since it released and its quite fast.
The newest version is quite stable hasn't crashed since, its also faster then firefox.
i've got firefox, IE and chrome.
it got 100/100 in the acid3 test.
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Post by: John.d.h on 12 June 2009, 21:38:44
I've tried Opera and I liked it, and I had pretty good results with Chrome as well, but I can't live without Adblock Plus either.
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Post by: Omega on 13 June 2009, 10:42:43
I actually have most browsers. I've never seen chrome crash, and it is quite fast, but just too light-weight for me. I need most browsers for web design, though thanks to a firefox add-on, I can see how things will render in IE without using the actual IE! Yeah, no more touching that icky button (lol).

Gotta agree with you john, adblock is the best add-on there is (the second best is the Web Developer add-on, which gives a full array of debug tools for web design).

Firefox 3.5 prerelease (http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/fastest/?utm_source=gsnippet&utm_content=fastfx&utm_campaign=s060109) is out. It's meant to be 2x faster than the previous one.
I have the 3.5 beta 4 (at least I think that's what it is, the about screen seems to be behind). It doesn't seem that much faster though. However, it got some negs to it to. For reasons I do not know, some themes and add-ons don't work... But who needs a theme when you got Personas? PS: The one called Mozilla Firefox (with the eye, and the fire) is by far the best, though I don't like the status bar image, because it gets in the way of the text, and it becomes harder to read).

PS: My acid 3 test for Firefox 3.0.10 got 71
Hmm, mine got 72, which is odd because I remember that wikipedia had a picture o it in the high 90s...
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Post by: -Archmage- on 14 June 2009, 22:18:53
one of my favorite zelda themes

Hyrule field from ocarina of time

even if you've heard it before listen to this one

zelda-hyrule field theme (http://zeldapower.com/downloads//mp3/ssbb2/Ocarina_of_Time_-_Hyrule_Field.mp3)
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Post by: -Archmage- on 14 June 2009, 22:22:48
listen to this one also:

Zelda main theme (http://amd.co.at/acp/zelda/08.%20Legend%20of%20Zelda%20-%20Main%20Theme.mp3)
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Post by: John.d.h on 19 June 2009, 00:04:25
Using Audacity, is there a way to take an mp3 song and strip the vocals out, leaving only the instrumentals?
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Post by: modman on 19 June 2009, 17:18:43
Possibly, but it would only work to a certain extent.  You would have to get the voice isolated first and then remove that from the rest of the track.  If there is a separate track for the vocals, this is easiest!  Just delete the vocals!
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Post by: silnarm on 20 June 2009, 01:20:51
If there is a separate track for the vocals, this is easiest!  Just delete the vocals!

I'm no expert, but I think technically this would be the only circumstance where you could do it 'cleanly'
You might be able to do it 'to some extant' if it were all mixed, but I doubt it would sound very good afterwards.
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Post by: John.d.h on 20 June 2009, 01:34:49
Hmm... I guess I'll just mess around with it and see what I get.
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Post by: Omega on 20 June 2009, 17:50:18
Bah, I tried that before, and had next to no success. I also tried a karaoke video before on a song, and the background music sounded nothing like the original, fading so much when the lyrics came, and you could still hear the singer if you listened carefully...

Modman's tip will work, but the problem is that most songs won't have different tracks, and MP3 won't...

Oh well...

(BTW, check out my idea for a mod maker here: https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=4406.0 (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=4406.0))
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: assassin on 24 June 2009, 15:43:50
I think this guy should be banned...
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Post by: ElimiNator on 24 June 2009, 16:00:58
I think he is a bot.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: modman on 24 June 2009, 19:58:28
How insulting; why would you think CoumbBon is a bot?  This is the OFF TOPIC topic, so things can get pretty random sometimes!
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Post by: ElimiNator on 24 June 2009, 21:23:06
because he said very strange stuff on other posts.
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Post by: modman on 24 June 2009, 21:48:38
Never mind.  I checked previous posts and some are identical to each other...
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Post by: Omega on 25 June 2009, 16:35:42
I agree, this guy makes no sense. If he isn't a bot, he is some sort of confused person in the wrong place. We have gained nothing from most of his posts, so thus we should flag him.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 25 June 2009, 21:36:33
this guy is an Israeli

I looked up: ישראל
from his profile
and it means Israel(or something resembling it)

from the only message i can find, that apparently wasn't deleted suggests that he speaks understandable but poor English(no offense).
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: modman on 26 June 2009, 02:18:10
Don't worry, I flagged him long ago.  And just because ישראל is his supposed location, it doesn't prove the user is not a bot.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 26 June 2009, 23:11:53
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it doesn't prove the user is not a bot.

yes, i know
maybe if i could get in contact with him.........

innocent until proven guilty
although..................

i briefly read the post in this topic......but it made no sense so i skipped over it
but from what parts of it i did read, it suggested he's either very VERY confused or he's a bot

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Post by: modman on 1 July 2009, 02:22:21
This is amazing: Steve Machol (http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/member.php?s=de278acbf9c06fcf12f0366ce7fe0fa1&u=656) on vBulletin forums has 138,000+ posts! :o  Wow! :o

Top ten posters on Face the Jury forums:
1. neutralmilk 198,764
2. M_A_B_U_S 178,846
3. Gamer 176,340
4. xplosiv757 166,826
5. 10der_Poison 120,912
6. MrNegativity 120,753
7. optikal 113,935
8. Slugmosphere 105,649
9. crewww 100,132
10. ginNtonic 100,000
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Post by: Omega on 1 July 2009, 08:05:08
Holy, I can't imagine that! I've always looked up to these people I see that have been around for like 5 years and have over 8000 posts (none on the glest board yet!), but that's really something!

I'd never heard of this 'face the jury' board before, but a quick google search revealed it to be an online dating site. Seriously...
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Post by: MadElf on 1 July 2009, 13:12:06
LoL! A dating site.

I could never get so much posts, I would get bored from whatever the forum is about before getting 1000.

Ps: Why isn't the off-topic sticky ? It is the most popular topic on the General discussion thing!
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Post by: modman on 1 July 2009, 19:17:35
Those forums are much bigger than Glest forums, so there is more topics to post on and thus a chance to get about 35 posts per day.  For example, vBulletin is the mother of all forums.
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Post by: titi on 2 July 2009, 12:57:03
Something interisting from the spring development. One of the mods has gone commercial and is now available ( for Linux and windows )

http://wolfegames.com/media/

Anybody tested it yet? ( demo is free and big )

This also shows which eyecandy would be possible with a particle system which allows black or dark smoke .....
Let's hope we see this in glest too!
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Post by: wciow on 2 July 2009, 15:46:04
Spring '44 is still my favorite mod for Spring  ;D

Spring has way more support than Glest in both community numbers and active devs  :'( despite the fact that most of the games/mods built on it are boring as hell. Spring '44 is the one notable exception IMO.

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Post by: SeanHeron on 8 July 2009, 08:58:24
Hey, I'm a Spring'er and in general I have to agree (well, with S44 being pretty good in any case :D). I've been wondering for a while whether cooperation between the two projects on the engine side for mutual benefit would be possible.
- Not being much of a coder, my line of though was if some bits of the engines where modular enough, these might be shared... any ideas on that ?
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Post by: -Archmage- on 9 July 2009, 04:00:19
I happy, my Dad made me a sudo(super user do) user, and for those of you who do not know, that means i'm practically a super admin,I can do anything.
I've been fixing stuff up and playing around with all the KDE4.2.2 settings.
I think I can get Blender going on our new Kubuntu 9.04.

I'll be glad to commit more work to the GLADE team.  :D
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Post by: assassin on 9 July 2009, 16:17:30
I happy, my Dad made me a sudo user.
Me too!

I've been fixing stuff up and playing around with all the KDE4.2.2 settings.
KDE 4.5 is nicer and more stable from my experience  ;)
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Post by: -Archmage- on 10 July 2009, 22:39:00
Quote
Quote from: archmage101 on July 09, 2009, 00:05:07
I've been fixing stuff up and playing around with all the KDE4.2.2 settings.
KDE 4.5 is nicer and more stable from my experience  Wink

Possibly, but i think you've dealt with earlier versions, cause 4.2.2 works just fine.
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Post by: Omega on 11 July 2009, 10:12:47
Man, I am I ever glad to be the sole owner of my computer. I mean, it IS vista, but I've hacked everything from the system32 files, to the registry, to even the start-up/log-on screens. Modified start-up programs, took off tiny things like the arrows on shortcuts, and more. Have experimented with animated desktops, and more.

A nice thing about being the sole owner is that you can change everything to YOUR preferences and no one else could care! I don't use linux just because so many programs still rely on windows stuff, and the games for PC that you can buy probably wouldn't work... Despite its flaws, I really don't mind Vista (not sure if I will ever upgrade to 7 when it comes out. I've seen the prices, and I've seen the feature list, and I'm pretty fine with my current OS).

Being admin is great, but it makes little difference to me, being the sole user. I have since disabled UAC (seriously, It hasn't done anything good for me. COMODO will handle everything [lots of work to tell it how to do things]).
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Post by: -Archmage- on 11 July 2009, 16:44:56
If you think Windows has good graphic effects on the Desktop and stuff, your quite mistaken, they are poor effects and they slow the computer down too much.
Kubuntu, on the other hand has awesome effects, that are selectable and easily customizable.

You have to admit Linux is a much better operationg system in terms of graphics.

But that doesn't matter much.

Linux has a program installer and virtually all the games are free, and there are awesome games like alien arena.

And don't think I have no experience with both Windows and Linux, I have a vista, and 2 Kubuntu 9.04's.

Besides, Linux is FREE!!!

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Post by: ElimiNator on 11 July 2009, 18:01:28
Besides, Linux is FREE!!!
Ya I have ubuntu and it is way beter then windows. (I have my own computer and I change it how I like.
If you think Windows has good graphic effects on the Desktop and stuff, your quite mistaken, they are poor effects and they slow the computer down too much.
ubuntu, on the other hand has awesome effects, that are selectable and easily customizable.

You have to admit Linux is a much better operationg system in terms of graphics.

I admit it.
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Post by: Omega on 12 July 2009, 05:42:47
Right now, I am hating everyone who has recommended linux (nothing personal).

My computer is basically a piece of s*** now, as it has lost everything. The glest guide, military, a book I've been writing, thousands of dollars in files, windows vista, kubuntu, all gone just because of openSUSE.

https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=4450.0 (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=4450.0)

I don't know what to do... I'm confused and VERY angry. It appears I've been mugged for thousands of dollars and even more hours of time. Also, my games don't work anymore, namely commercial 'games for windows' games.

*&*%^&^$%@#*(@#()*()#()*@#()&*$%@$^%&#%@!!!!
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Post by: John.d.h on 12 July 2009, 19:32:56
I definitely need to make a tileset of this place when I have the time and know-how to do so. 8)

(http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs190.snc1/6400_125362140298_695335298_2999938_4956912_n.jpg)(http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs190.snc1/6400_125362110298_695335298_2999933_6252323_n.jpg)
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Post by: modman on 12 July 2009, 20:46:49
Where did you go?  You might have said Colorado, I think...

Anyways, I went to a cool camp near Westfield, Wisconsin.
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Post by: John.d.h on 12 July 2009, 21:08:07
That's a little place called Seven Falls, just outside of Colorado Springs.  The terrain looks so cool and totally different from what I'm used to in Florida.  Boulders, gravel, big pine trees, rock formations... all sorts of good stuff.  I should have gotten some close-up texture photos, come to think of it.
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Post by: gameboy on 13 July 2009, 18:17:28
whoa nice shots dude, these are good
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Post by: -Archmage- on 13 July 2009, 18:51:58
Nice pics, can't wait for tileset ;D
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Post by: John.d.h on 13 July 2009, 19:01:04
Nice pics, can't wait for tileset ;D
You're gonna have to.  I've got enough on my plate already. :P
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 21 July 2009, 11:38:28
I'm back! Say, it's gotten quiet around here...

I managed to download python, and got blender 2.46 up and running! Now, for that disc... :(
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Post by: modman on 21 July 2009, 20:43:53
During July, I believe, most of Europe takes a vacation...
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Post by: Omega on 22 July 2009, 07:42:31
I wouldn't know, I'm Canadian!

In some other topic...

Have you guys ever wondered what your dream computer would cost? I decided to check out the price for my dream laptop. With a 500 GB HDD, 250GB secondary HDD, 17" display (1920x1200), this uber sweet graphics card with 1 GB of graphics memory, a top-notch quad-core processor, 4 GB DDR2 RAM with 8 GB L2 Cache, a super multi DVD burner with blu-ray readability, and a number of other top-notch features cost just over $5000! Yow. Still, such a PC would be a dream, since you would probably not even know what lag is with that lean baby! What about you guys? Know the cost of your dream computer (laptop or desktop).

*NOTE: Mine of course is a custom laptop, so don't expect to see it in any stores!
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Post by: gameboy on 22 July 2009, 15:22:50
I don't think u would need such a huge cache mem, with a quad core i mean.
My dream comp would be just like urs, only it would have an Intel i7 processor and an 29 in. LCD. YEAH BABY :)
http://www.intel.com/products/processor/corei7/index.htm
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Post by: John.d.h on 22 July 2009, 20:31:40
The next computer I buy has gotta be something cheap and durable, because mine always end up getting beaten up and then things just stop working.  For example, I had an Acer that had its webcam and CD drive stop working and then its processor got so slow that it couldn't really do anything at all, plus all the sound came out garbled and stuttering, and I'm pretty sure it was from riding around in my trunk so much.  The next computer I had was this one, which is a Toshiba that works great (I've taken a lot better care of it) except for the keyboard.  The 'r', 'y', '=', and most of the numbers are all broken, so I'm currently using the on-screen keyboard to fill in the gaps. lol

Speaking of laptops, does anybody know anything about getting good wifi antennae?  I don't have internet at home and I'm JUST BARELY out of range of my neighbor's unsecured wifi network.  I would build my own (http://www.oreillynet.com/cs/weblog/view/wlg/448), but I don't have all the necessary tools, like a soldering iron.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 22 July 2009, 21:26:23
gAMeboy, I agree, though I don't like my monitors TOO big, because many programs only support up to such a resolution, so when you display that resolution, everything appears enlarged. Of course, you are obviously talking about a desktop.

John.d.h, you're being so realistic. What would be your super dream PC if you won the lottery?

BTW, for antenna's, try a USB antenna with maybe wireless N. Most built in ones are only a G, which is poor range. N or N+ will probably do nicely. Never used one, but I'm sure of how they work (I think)...
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Post by: wciow on 22 July 2009, 21:29:33
During July, I believe, most of Europe takes a vacation...

Yep its completely true folks, during July all of Europe goes on holiday for a month, its like a ghost continent.

Only Joking its just the French actually   :D
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Post by: Mark on 22 July 2009, 22:13:55
During July, I believe, most of Europe takes a vacation...

Yep its completely true folks, during July all of Europe goes on holiday for a month, its like a ghost continent.

Only Joking its just the French actually   :D
??? Really, because i did a persuasive essay on germany, and i was planning to use that one month vacation as a selling point, but i saw that italy, france, germany, sweden, finland and england all have a one month vacation according to wikipedia, my textbook and several blogs.  But even with all that i would still not consider myself formidably knowledgeable in european vacation science... :-\ :D

@Omega-   My dream computer, would be a computer with 6GB ram and a 1000 GB hard drive, with a quad core.  And of course a HD monitor, but if that then also a very good graphics card to support it...  Not too sure what i would do with 1000 GBs of Hard Drive though ;D ;D ;D  But it would probably only cost about $1500 actually.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 23 July 2009, 09:12:24
Well, since you state a 1TB HDD (1 Terebyte = 1024 GigaBytes), I assume this is a desktop. The costs depend on company, and other features. However, I would say over $2000 would be a safer bet. The best quadcore processor you'll find is without doubt the Intel i7 Core.

Goliath. :D
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Mark on 23 July 2009, 18:35:02
Yes, it is a desktop.  And I don't know why you say $2000+.  HP computers are pretty inexpensive. I saw a computer in an add yesterday that was all that, just 500 GB HDD, and it was only $849.

The worst computer deal i ever saw was on that show where you have to guess the price of a certain vacation or appliance.  (I can't remember the name).  There was this huge dell with really crappy specs and i was thinking $500-700, but it actually was like $4000!  i couldn't believe it, but i then thought  'Oh, this must be a rerun from like 2001 or something'.

Whats your guys worst computer deal story?
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Post by: John.d.h on 23 July 2009, 20:40:43
Yes, it is a desktop.  And I don't know why you say $2000+.  HP computers are pretty inexpensive. I saw a computer in an add yesterday that was all that, just 500 GB HDD, and it was only $849.
I think HPs are pretty decent.  Just don't get a Dell.  Everyone I've known who's ever had a Dell thought it was a horrible piece of junk.  That might just be laptops, though...

Quote
The worst computer deal i ever saw was on that show where you have to guess the price of a certain vacation or appliance.  (I can't remember the name).  There was this huge dell with really crappy specs and i was thinking $500-700, but it actually was like $4000!  i couldn't believe it, but i then thought  'Oh, this must be a rerun from like 2001 or something'.
"The Price Is Right"?

Quote
Whats your guys worst computer deal story?
The aforementioned Acer laptop has gotta be my worst.  The specs were awesome for the price (about the same as the $2000 laptops, for half the cost) but it was the most unreliable thing I've ever owned.  According to the guy at Circuit City when I went in to get it fixed, certain parts like the webcam tend to just stop working for no apparent reason and with no apparent way to fix it. -.-

I'm glad I bought the additional 2-year accidental damage warranty, because after it stopped working properly, I accidentally dropped it down the stairs a couple times so they'd replace it.
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Post by: Mark on 23 July 2009, 21:47:40
Quote
The worst computer deal i ever saw was on that show where you have to guess the price of a certain vacation or appliance.  (I can't remember the name).  There was this huge dell with really crappy specs and i was thinking $500-700, but it actually was like $4000!  i couldn't believe it, but i then thought  'Oh, this must be a rerun from like 2001 or something'.
"The Price Is Right"?
Yeah, I think so.  I just couldn't put my tongue on it.

I'm glad I bought the additional 2-year accidental damage warranty, because after it stopped working properly, I accidentally dropped it down the stairs a couple times so they'd replace it.
Nice ;D I've heard plenty of stories from classmates about how they buy cheap acers and compaqs and then are surprised at the piece of junk they have.
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Post by: modman on 24 July 2009, 18:06:09
I'm glad I bought the additional 2-year accidental damage warranty, because after it stopped working properly, I accidentally dropped it down the stairs a couple times so they'd replace it.

Heh heh.  That sounds pretty desperate, but I can understand.  I can just see someone doing that, either looking evil or being totally red in the face.

Hey I want to make a promotional video of Glest that I can put at the end of all my YouTube videos, but I don't know what program I should use.  I need a freeware (best-case scenario :)) program that captures the video but also captures sound and works in Glest.  some programs just don't work properly when I do those things with them in Glest.

BTW check out my YouTube Channel (http://www.youtube.com/user/ModmanGlest)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Mark on 25 July 2009, 00:46:53
YAY! 100 posts!  I should have announced it when it happened, but I didn't.  :-\  But for now, YAY! 110 posts! 
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Post by: gameboy on 25 July 2009, 16:43:10
i have a bloody acer, piece a crap, the shity LCD flickers and i've already sent it twice for repairs. totally shit junk worst thing ever laptop i've ever had. and they claim to be the 2nd best laptops in the world. boo
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Post by: @kukac@ on 26 July 2009, 09:07:37
Well, I'm not planning to buy a new computer, since my current one is functionating well so far:

Processor: 1,9 GHz
RAM: 512 MB
HDD: 80 GB
Video Card: GeForce FX 5200

It was one of the best in 2002 :P
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Mark on 27 July 2009, 01:00:13
My computer is from december '07.  It has:

Processor:  1.6 GHz (Wish it was more)
RAM:  1 GB (Upgraded to 2; I tried to upgrade to 4, but didn't work :'( )
HDD:  80 GB
Graphics Card: nVIDIA GeForce 8400 (I have tried many times to upgrade, but in order to do so i would need a better processer  :'( )
6 USB Ports
1 CD Drive (I added seconed one that is really cool)
No Internet  :'( :'( :'( :'( (for internet i use parents laptop)

Before i got this computer i had a really crappy windows 95 computer.

P.S.  The laptop is really running slow so I will probably have a lot of typos in this post.  :-[
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 28 July 2009, 02:28:39
My Toshiba Laptop is pretty good. Of course, I have disabled TONS of windows and toshiba stuff that came with it!

I disabled DEP, UAC, Toshiba Flash Cards, and a ton of other startup programs including the sidebar and windows media player network sharing control. I would recommend everyone to get Glary Utilities for windows vista. The free version will really be handy.

My computer is a Toshiba A220 (or something like that) laptop.
1.62 GHz AMD 64 Athlon X2 processor (hope to upgrade sometime, but not a lot of options for laptops that will use the same ports)
2 GB DDR2 RAM
180 GB HDD (not the best for a laptop these days, but external HDDs can be $120 for 1TB here in Canada ;D)
4 USB ports (laptop, shortage, since I have speakers, mouse, printer, cooling pad, and this leaves no room for iPod, TV Tuner, etc; Need a hub
1 DVD Super Multi Burner (can burn all normal DVDs, all kinds, but not Blu-Ray or HD)
Windows Vista Home Premium (win 32)
ATI Radeon X1200 with 832MB memory (however, I recently learned only 128MB is graphics memory, the rest is shared! :()
1280x800 resolution LCD monitor, 15 inches

Do you want to know the sweet deal I got on this baby?
$400, open box and refurbished!
Greatest deal I ever got, plus a $200 2 year service and labor thingy from future shop!
It works great, and I prefer it over some of those $2000 laptops (macs, ugh!).

Sweet deal, huh?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 28 July 2009, 14:39:24
Hey Omega, instead of giving your backup copies of Military to your messy friend why not give them to me.
My Dad's computer has 2 harddrives: one is 500GB the other is 1TB, plenty of room for a backup copy of military, considering I have a folder on my Desktop with about 20-30 different factions in it, I might still have the old military, but I don't know if you want that or not, and I think there is still a download link in the military topic.

There's only one problem: You don't have a backup to give me :P

Ok, I guess I just volunteered to store backup copies for people, just PM me if you have a backup copy for me. :)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 29 July 2009, 03:58:22
That would be nice, but I put it on a disc, since I didn't want to upload on this internet. After, I will just save everything to a thumbdrive the moment I finish it (if I can get it back, that is. I haven't been able to contact my friend, he's not answering the phone?!? Away somewhere?).

For now, I'm brushing up on my web design, especially PHP and JS. I just learned some new stuff the other day even. I hope to update the glest guide sometime, but for now I don't have the files. Have to download them...
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: titi on 30 July 2009, 22:17:11
Hi all, I'm back from vacation now and I think I have several very interisting new photos for burningwells texture section ( http:// www.bunringwell.org )  and some are useful for ghlest mdders too! But it will take some time to sort and upload them.
I have lots of doors / windows and especially lot's interisting looking walls for castles and so on.....
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ElimiNator on 31 July 2009, 01:06:26
Speeking about textures check out this web site!
http://www.mayang.com/textures/ (http://www.mayang.com/textures/)
There are lots of textures!
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Mark on 31 July 2009, 02:58:27
Thats amazing! For a project the details of which i will not disclose i was searching for a good ivy-on-wall texture.  That is the site i got, and i was amazed with the archive it holds!
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: titi on 31 July 2009, 16:16:20
There are lots of these kind of texture ressources on the web (for example  http://www.cgtextures.com ) but you will always get in trouble with their licences when want to redistribute your derived work with a free license ( GPL for example ).
Thats exatcly the reason for my engagement on burningwell, because I got into trouble with these licenses.
So you better use stuff rom burningwell, because it's definitly all free (completely  public domain )
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 31 July 2009, 21:03:06
You could also try the material and texture sites listed on the Blender site here:

http://www.blender.org/download/resources/
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: modman on 31 July 2009, 21:13:05
When we use from burningwell, is there a problem if we modify the image?  What if I recolor the image and brighten it a little so it looks like something different?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: titi on 1 August 2009, 22:28:20
You can really do whatever you want with the things from burningwell!
- You can use and modify them in any way you want
- You can release them with another license
- You can sell them
- You can even say they are your photos ( but thats really not very kind! )

And you really don't have to credit anyone, but it would be nice if you do it.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 2 August 2009, 07:51:06
That's actually really sweet. However, the only problem is quality. Tileable textures can be better if you can find some under the proper liscence. However, they are almost always computer generated (or at least modified) since most things in life aren't like your kitchen floor (love the stuff).

Still, they are good if you can modify them. Textures of bricks and tree trunks are probably the most handy.
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Post by: Mark on 3 August 2009, 00:01:32
I uploaded a really nice cobblestone texture i made using Paint.Net as a way of showing off my newfound skills.  I tried it in game with my invaders and it really felt like I was watching a brigade of redcoats storming colonial boston!
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Post by: Omega on 3 August 2009, 09:32:58
http://www.thispagecannotbedisplayed.com/ (http://www.thispagecannotbedisplayed.com/)
http://www.wwwdotcom.com/ (http://www.wwwdotcom.com/)
 :D :D :D
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Post by: Mark on 3 August 2009, 18:36:19
Quite obscene.  I like the famous quotes from history.  The second one was funny.
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Post by: modman on 3 August 2009, 19:39:34
http://www.thispagecannotbedisplayed.com/ (http://www.thispagecannotbedisplayed.com/)
http://www.wwwdotcom.com/ (http://www.wwwdotcom.com/)
 :D :D :D
Hypothetical(http://www.start-flying.com/new%20site/images3/down%20arrow.jpg)
Now I should make the first one the homepage at school! :D  Heh heh, I don't think I will though.

That would be extra funny though because only some people would notice.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 4 August 2009, 12:09:08
Well of course no one would notice, cause that happens very frequently in IE.

Installing IE is, installing suck, and a lot of it.
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Post by: Mark on 4 August 2009, 21:14:33
I made a new unit in blender and i thought maybe you guys would like to see it.

I'm sorry but there is no image.  :-[  I made one but Mediafire couldn't find the image.  Download it if you are at all curious because it is small and I would like you to.  ;D

Download the '.blend' file here(Only 71KB!): http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?tanmnwmz1mz (http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?tanmnwmz1mz)

You can download it, copy the concept, use the blend or do anything else you want to with it, even add it to your faction.  Just give me credit pretty please.  :)

EDIT: Here is a glest mod that i find relatively similar to the military faction Omega is making.  You may want to read over it.
https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=263.msg0#new (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=263.msg0#new)
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Post by: modman on 10 August 2009, 01:13:21
This is free, and if you don't own Microsoft Office, this download includes programs which create, view, edit, save, print, and more things too.

http://www.openwith.org/programs/openoffice.org (http://www.openwith.org/programs/openoffice.org)
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Post by: John.d.h on 10 August 2009, 02:34:00
if you don't own Microsoft Office, this download includes programs which create, view, edit, save, print, and more things too.
Even if you do own Microsoft Office, this download still includes programs which create, view, edit, save, print, and more things too.
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Post by: Omega on 10 August 2009, 04:44:50
This is free, and if you don't own Microsoft Office, this download includes programs which create, view, edit, save, print, and more things too.

http://www.openwith.org/programs/openoffice.org (http://www.openwith.org/programs/openoffice.org)
YES! Another OOO user! OOO is by far the best free word processor, and I strongly recommend it to everyone.

*The OMEGA stares at you until you decide it's not worth arguing and go to sun microsystem's webpage to download it.*

EDIT// I just noticed your ackward link. Why not go official?
http://www.openoffice.org/ (http://www.openoffice.org/)
http://www.sun.com/software/openoffice/index.jsp (http://www.sun.com/software/openoffice/index.jsp)
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Post by: ElimiNator on 10 August 2009, 04:47:54
Ya open office is the way to go. I have it.
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Post by: ElimiNator on 10 August 2009, 18:34:46
Here is the glest story of the day.

The sun rises, a new day has begun. The Technics an ancient race and they have studied mechanics for a long time and are now masters at making machines and automations to help them in their day to day activities.But little do the Technics know. Another race of people dwells atop the mountains. A race of war people, Who dwell in cave.
They spotted the peaceful village of Technics.
They are called, The cave men.
The cave men are running out of caves to live in and antelope to hunt, so ten brave cave men have gone south, closer to the Technics, to search for new places to live.
So the 10 brave cave men set up a camp in the Vally.
And sent 4 scouts in different directions to look for danger.
Each scout took a bow and a battle axe.
The average cave man was over 8 feet tall, And could go up to 12 feet.
One of the scouts, heading southeast, noticed an especially large cave about 200 yards away, and went to investigate. In the cave, he found a spring of water and a secret crawl space hidden by vines, He went down. He thought he heard a whirring sound as he grappled with the slippery vines.
Meanwhile down at the peaceful village of Technics, a boy had wondered off to the south, and was nearing the camp of cave men. One of the Cavemen found the boy and took him to his home/cave. As for the scout in the cave, he starts to explore the secret space and finds a tunnel going deep underground.The scout went into the tunnel and it started broadening out, then he saw a huge spider web, with thousands of flies, bugs, and even bats stuck in it. They were all whirring and buzing, and the spider web strands were as big as ropes! A spider starts to approach the scout, it was a huge thing. you could see each and every hair on its hairy body and smell the foul reek of its poison. The scout was terrified, he thought the spider was going to kill him. just when he thought the spider would strike a blue streak of lighting scorches the spider which bursts and sends its bodily juices everywhere. The spider slinks into the darkness, screeching. The caveman looks up, but sees only the ceiling of the cave, then he looks for any way lightning could have struck the spider, he could find none. In his desperate attempt to find a way out of this ghastly cave, the caveman stumbles and falls through some kind of stone tube. As he gets up from his fall down the tube he notices a faint blue light. Curious he follows it through a large opening and finds himself on the edge of a huge and magnificent city. Night had fallen, and burning pyres of flames leapt from torches. A magic feel whisped through the air, and the caveman felt himself drawn into the power of the city. Then he realizes a figure is standing before him, the figure has a black cloke draped around him and his face is green and slimy, he has long fangs and a sword glowing blue in his claw. Hello hissis the figure his 2 long fangs dribbling dark green poison Welcome to the majestic city. You have come with out permission sssss and now you must die, the creature swung at the caveman but missed, the caveman charged and punched the creature. It flew through the air, whacked off a rock and landed on the ground. Slithering up again it made a loud long bone chilling shriek and lifted his sword and a blue streak of lighting flies out and forms a shield around the creature. All the movement in the city shows that more of them are coming...
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: modman on 10 August 2009, 20:33:35
if you don't own Microsoft Office, this download includes programs which create, view, edit, save, print, and more things too.
Even if you do own Microsoft Office, this download still includes programs which create, view, edit, save, print, and more things too.

No, regardless of whether you own Microsoft Office, the download allows you to open formats which you might not be able to, unless you get the premium Office version.

EDIT// I just noticed your ackward link. Why not go official?
http://www.openoffice.org/ (http://www.openoffice.org/)
http://www.sun.com/software/openoffice/index.jsp (http://www.sun.com/software/openoffice/index.jsp)
Gosh so many people are trying to correct me ;D!  I thought the list of formats it could open was pretty impressive, so I linked to that.
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Post by: John.d.h on 10 August 2009, 20:35:41
I just played this last night, and I thought it was a pretty interesting take on game making, one where there is only one level, played over and over in very different ways.  You'll see what I mean.

http://armorgames.com/play/4309/this-is-the-only-level

No, regardless of whether you own Microsoft Office, the download allows you to open formats which you might not be able to, unless you get the premium Office version.
That's what I was getting it.  I was just poking fun at your conditional statement that actually doesn't depend on anything. :P
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Post by: modman on 10 August 2009, 20:48:28
No, regardless of whether you own Microsoft Office, the download allows you to open formats which you might not be able to, unless you get the premium Office version.
That's what I was getting it.  I was just poking fun at your conditional statement that actually doesn't depend on anything. :P
OK cause it's kind of hard to tell without smilies :P

I just played this last night, and I thought it was a pretty interesting take on game making, one where there is only one level, played over and over in very different ways.  You'll see what I mean.

http://armorgames.com/play/4309/this-is-the-only-level
Definitely creative.  But the music is super annoying.

Found this nice site for sayings people might put in their signatures here (http://coolsig.com/make_you_think1.html).
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Post by: Mark on 11 August 2009, 03:12:57
Here (http://politsk.blogspot.com/2008/09/sarah_13.html) is a hilarious site that generates Sarah Palin baby names.  I am 'Clop Clutch" Palin.  What are you?

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Post by: gameboy on 11 August 2009, 13:34:09
you think thats cool, check this out... http://soytuaire.labuat.com/
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Post by: Mark on 11 August 2009, 19:35:41
Two things:
1. My mediafire is not working, and i see that gAMeboy's isn't either.  I have begun using Imageshack.  Are there any suggestions or complaints?  They have to be free cause I'm cheap.  ;D
2. On Monday I started something where every week I post a new quote on my signature.  If you can tell me who said it, you can choose the next quote.  P.M. me if you have it with three lines-who said it, the next quote and who said it.  If you are correct, I will post the new quote.
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Post by: Omega on 12 August 2009, 09:22:17
Quote
Lets eat, Grandpa.
Lets eat Grandpa.
Bad grammar kills.
LOL, this is priceless. Here's a few:

'I plan on living forever, so far, so good'

'The world is in a continuous race. Man keeps trying to making things idiot proof, while nature keeps trying to make better idiots. So far, nature's winning'

'Make something idiot proove, and someone will find a better idiot'

'Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt'

'Early to rise, Early to bed, Makes a man healthy but socially dead'

'I'm trying to see things from your point of view but I can't get my head that far up my ass'

'You see a gorgeous girl at a party. You go up to her and say, "I'm fantastic in bed." That's Direct Marketing. You're at a party with a bunch of friends and see a gorgeous girl. One of your friends goes up to her, and pointing at you says, "He's fantastic in bed." That's Advertising.
You see a gorgeous girl at a party. You go up to her and get her telephone number. The next day you call and say, "Hi, I'm fantastic in bed." That's Telemarketing. You're at a party and see a gorgeous girl. You get up and straighten your tie, walk up to her and pour her a drink. You open the door for her, pick up her bag after she drops it, offer her a ride, and then say, "By the way, I'm fantastic in bed." That's Public Relations. You're at a party and see a gorgeous girl. She walks up to you and says, "I hear you're fantastic in bed." That's Brand Recognition.'

'3 ways to catch a TIGER:
1:- NEWTON METHOD:- let tiger catch you. Every action has equal and opposite reaction. u can catch tiger as
observed.
2:- EINSTEIN METHOD:- run in opposite direction to tiger. According to theory of relativity tiger will run fast and
get tired and then you will be able to catch it.
3:-According to most efficient POLICE METHOD:-Catch a CAT and torture it till it agrees that its the TIGER.'

'You know you drank too much when you realize "Drink Canada Dry" is a slogan and not a personal challenge'

'Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much'

'Just the fact that some geniuses were laughed at does not imply that all who are laughed at are geniuses.
They laughed at Columbus, they laughed at Fulton, and they laughed at the Wright brothers.
But they also laughed at Bozo the Clown. '

'When you go into court you are putting your fate into the hands of twelve people who weren’t smart enough to get out of jury duty'



Imageshack.us is the BEST! I use it for all my images. Seriously, it doesn't get any better than that. Unless you are some nut uploading multi-petrabyte pictures of the world to scale, this should cover everything.

I am a bit frustrated with mediafire lately too, but this is because of uploader woes, which unfortunately seem more linked to my internet than my site.

BTW, I found this good joke the other day. It cracked me up, though the easily offended or strongly religious might be offended by it. Take heed:

A married woman is having an affair. Whenever her lover comes over, she puts her nine year old son in the
closet.
One day the woman hears a car in the driveway and puts her lover in the closet, as well.
Inside the closet, the little boy says, "It's dark in here, isn't it?"
"Yes it is," the man replies.
"You wanna buy a baseball?" the little boy asks.
"No thanks," the man replies.
"I think you do want to buy a baseball," the little extortionist continues.
"OK. How much?" the man replies after considering the position he was in.
"Twenty-five dollars," the little boy replies.
"TWENTY-FIVE DOLLARS?!" the man repeats. "That's awful expensive", but because of the position he was in,
agreed to the price.
The following week, the lover is visiting the woman again when she hears a car in the driveway and, again,
places her lover in the closet with her little boy.
"It's dark in here, isn't it?" the boy starts off.
"Yes it is," replies the man.
"Wanna buy a baseball glove?" the little boy asks.
"OK. How much?" the hiding lover responds, acknowledging his dis-advantage.
"Fifty dollars," the boy replies and the transaction is completed.
The next weekend, the little boy's father says, "Hey, son. Go get your ball and glove and we'll play some catch."
"I can't. I sold them," replies the little boy.
"How much did you get for them?" asks the father, expecting to hear the profit in terms of lizards and candy.
"Seventy-five dollars," the little boy says.
"SEVENTY-FIVE DOLLARS?! That's thievery! I'm taking you to the church right now. You must confess your sin
and ask for forgiveness,"
the father explains as he hauls the child away.
At the church, the little boy goes into the confessional, draws the curtain, sits down, and says "It's dark in here,
isn't it?"
"Don't you start that crap in here," the priest says.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: gameboy on 12 August 2009, 10:37:45
WTF!!!! LOL, i have to admit i am offended.
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Post by: Omega on 12 August 2009, 11:29:12
I was kinda too. But it's a joke, and one must remember never to take them seriously. And it is kinda funny... :D
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Post by: John.d.h on 12 August 2009, 17:23:52
Where to begin? Okay, so last night my landlord accused me of being racist because I don't want to talk to him and he happens to be Indian. Then he told me has was going to break my neck. Maybe that's why I don't wanna talk to you, eh? Also, he doesn't have the money to pay me back my full deposit. I've had some bad landlords before, but this is the first to actually tell me he was going to murder me.  *sigh*
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Post by: modman on 12 August 2009, 18:12:30
Where to begin? Okay, so last night my landlord accused me of being racist because I don't want to talk to him and he happens to be Indian. Then he told me has was going to break my neck. Maybe that's why I don't wanna talk to you, eh? Also, he doesn't have the money to pay me back my full deposit. I've had some bad landlords before, but this is the first to actually tell me he was going to murder me.  *sigh*
Try not to get killed, if at all possible.  I'm not in favor of death :P.

Last night was hell for me.  I had sulfer burps, which is pretty much the most nasty thing I can think of, and I was throwing up at 1:00 in the morning.  Then I went back to sleep, and woke up at 3:00 in the morning, and threw up even worse.  My stomach contracted so hard that the "stuff" went through my nose.  The stomach acid irritated my nose, and I sneezed about 30 times, literally.  But the best part about throwing up is how you feel afterward.

Sulfer burps is caused by a bacteria that sometimes lives in your stomach/intestines.  But it's favorite food is sugar and meats.  Yesterday, I made a dessert and subsequently ate about half of it.  So the germs had a party in my stomach; I barfed.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 13 August 2009, 03:59:02
Ok......
I didn't sleep at all last night but tonight I fell asleep for 2-4 hours after a filling of pancakes this afternoon, I have my friend over at my Dads house. Right now I'm typing this, my friend is sound asleep on the floor, and my Dad is scratching his foot in his sleep.

Wow what a day/night! 
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Post by: Omega on 13 August 2009, 08:43:25
Moving on, I have a question, don't you guys hate it when you are having a great dream and then wake up? You can never get that dream back (although bad ones come back pretty easily).

For example, I once had a dream of meeting the 'perfect girl'... Hmm, I'm going back to sleep... :(
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: gameboy on 14 August 2009, 13:04:13
yeah, i hate it. I can remember so many dreams that totally sucked. but i can't remember the really good ones :( 
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Post by: assassin on 15 August 2009, 18:34:05
Yes, but don't you feel relieved when you wake up from a bad dream?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Mark on 16 August 2009, 01:42:55
Yeah, sometimes when I have a bad dream, I feel so relieved when I wake up. 
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Post by: modman on 18 August 2009, 02:19:03
The latest extreme sport:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_ironing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_ironing)

(http://www.fallen-legion.eu/news/data/upimages/DoubleFacePalm.jpg)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 18 August 2009, 08:11:40
Lolz!

OMG, I can't believe this is for real!!! Too good! :D :D :D

*chuckle*

Maybe I'll give one of these pros my shirt. Or Perhaps I'll just scale everest myself... *looks WAY up* ... On second thought, lets just stick with the basement *barfs from fear of heights*

Joke of the day:

While visiting England, George Bush is invited to tea with the Queen. He asks her what her leadership
philosophy is. She says that it is to surround herself with intelligent people.
Bush asks how she knows if they're intelligent.
"I do so by asking them the right questions," says the Queen. "Allow me to demonstrate."
Bush watches as the Queen phones Tony Blair and says, "Mr. Prime Minister, please answer this question: your
mother has a child, and your father has a child, and this child is not your brother or sister. Who is it?"
Tony Blair responds, "It's me, ma'am."
"Correct. Thank you and good-bye, sir," says the Queen. She hangs up and says, "Did you get that, Mr. Bush?"
Bush nods: "Yes ma'am. Thanks a lot. I'll definitely be using that!"
Bush, upon returning to Washington, decides he'd better put the Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations
Committee to the test. Bush summons Dick Lugar to the White House and says, "Senator Lugar, I wonder if you
can answer a question for me."
"Why, of course, sir. What's on your mind?"
Bush poses the question: "Uhh, your mother has a child, and your father has a child, and this child is not your
brother or your sister. Who is it?"
Lugar hems and haws and finally asks, "Can I think about it and get back to you?"
Bush agrees, and Lugar leaves. He immediately calls a meeting of other senior Republican senators, and they
puzzle over the question for several hours, but nobody can come up with an answer. Finally, in desperation,
Lugar calls Rice at the State Department and explains his problem.
"Now lookee here, your mother has a child, and your father has a child, and this child is not your brother or your
sister. Who is it?"
Rice answers immediately, "It's me, of course."
Much relieved, Lugar rushes back to the White House, finds George Bush, and exclaims, "I know the answer,
sir! I know who it is! It's Condoleezza Rice!"
And Bush replies in disgust, "Wrong, you dumb shit, it's Tony Blair!"


Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ElimiNator on 18 August 2009, 17:47:46
*HA HA HO HO* :D ;D :D
*chuckle* :D ;D :D

Thats a good one. :D
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: titi on 18 August 2009, 21:01:16
I know its not glest but .... http://www.hiverise.com/  has a native linux client now.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 18 August 2009, 23:36:58
Well titi, that's what the off topics for! ;D
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Post by: Mark on 19 August 2009, 01:57:31
I noticed old topics (10 pages old) have something in the bottom of the post that says

"« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 07:00:00 PM by [user] »"  (Obviously it doesn't say [user] but it says the name of the posts author.)

I am assuming that this has to do with one of the Database crash, but I am confused as to why it says 1969.

I personally find it rather amusing.  :D
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Post by: modman on 19 August 2009, 21:16:03
I was looking at the wikia page for lua today.  I got to startLocation (faction), but it didn't make sense to me.  I quote it below:
Quote from: Glest Lua Wikia
Vec2i startLocation ( faction )

Returns the start location for a given faction.

Parameters:
faction - the index of the faction [0-3, Player1=0]

Example:
Code: [Select]
createUnit ( "someunit", 0, {startLocation(0)[1] + 5, startLocation(0)[2]} )
This would create a unit 5 cells east of startLocation 0.

I get most of it.  I'll talk it through.

"Create the unit "someunit" from player0 (really player one) at five tiles to the right of the start postition on the x axis and zero up or down"

But what I don't get are the braceted numbers after the startLocation(0)'s.  Why is it [1] and then [2] ????  Could someone please explain?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: titi on 19 August 2009, 22:36:27
this is not off topic enough for this topic  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 19 August 2009, 22:51:00
I don't know LUA but I'd guess that marks each 'startLocation' command.
Maybe I'd like to learn LUA..... :P
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: hailstone on 19 August 2009, 23:19:20
Perhaps it signifies direction. I don't remember them being there.
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Post by: modman on 20 August 2009, 01:38:33
I am infuriated!  I tried to find out how to uninstall IE and Windows Media Player, but there's really nothing.  No helpful info at all, on the whole internet!

Heh, I even went to the Microsoft website to see if I could find the answer, but there was only a way to make IE 8 revert back to IE 7.  That's not helpful when I want to completely remove it!  How clever they are; if you have problems and want to uninstall, the program is smart enough to keep it's shadow (actually, slightly more than a shadow) on your computer!

So I tried to ask a human being the question directly.  Unfortunately for me, Microsoft makes that virtually impossible.  Which is why I'm starting to get pissed at them.  They make everything so difficult, all of the links lead me in circles (not fun without blazing fast internet), and there's even a little box where I thought it would send to a human, but it was simply a search, which led me back to where I started!

Does anyone possibly have the answer for me?  I want to basically stop the Svchost process on my computer from getting so bloated.  Like in the middle of a Glest game, the graphics start getting progressively choppier.  So I do Task Manager, and find that the Svchost process is larger than the Glest process!

It might be a virus but I kinda doubt it.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 20 August 2009, 02:59:54
Dude, just wipe it out.

Go to: C:\Program Files\ find internet explorer and delete the sucker
then go to: C:\Users\--your username--\find the hidden internet explorer suckers, and bring them out of their sucking existence, in other words...KILL THE SUCKER.

Uh....sorry I just hate IE so much..................it sucks.................. 
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 20 August 2009, 04:18:53
I was looking at the wikia page for lua today.  I got to startLocation (faction), but it didn't make sense to me.  I quote it below:
Quote from: Glest Lua Wikia
Vec2i startLocation ( faction )

Returns the start location for a given faction.

Parameters:
faction - the index of the faction [0-3, Player1=0]

Example:
Code: [Select]
createUnit ( "someunit", 0, {startLocation(0)[1] + 5, startLocation(0)[2]} )
This would create a unit 5 cells east of startLocation 0.

I get most of it.  I'll talk it through.

"Create the unit "someunit" from player0 (really player one) at five tiles to the right of the start postition on the x axis and zero up or down"

But what I don't get are the braceted numbers after the startLocation(0)'s.  Why is it [1] and then [2] ????  Could someone please explain?
It's really quite simple. Assumin you understand everything except the {startLocation(0)[1] + 5, startLocation(0)[2]} part, then I'll explain that part. It is {x,y} in format, but startLocation(0)[1] returns the x value of faction 0, while startLocation(0)[2] returns the y value of faction 0's start place.  By adding 5, it can assume that we will try to place the unit at 5 more than the X pos of the faction's start location. So if the factions start location is {21,33}, then the above code will be the equivilant of {26,33} ({21+5,33}).

And this being the offtopic board, you can talk about anything, off topic or not, just don't tell anyone, it's a SECRET... :o
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 20 August 2009, 05:10:30
Hey does anyone on the boards play Shaiya?

It's a Windows game, but I got ambitious this evening and spent a few hours figuring out how to run it on Linux.
It's an awesome MMORPG.

For Windows: http://shaiya.aeriagames.com/download (http://shaiya.aeriagames.com/download)

For Linux: download the game and get my package for playing it on Linux (http://www.filefront.com/14328177/Shaiya%20for%20Linux.7z). My package is currently for Ubuntu/Kubuntu 8.04+, but if you know how, you can do things a little differently than the README instructs, and use it for other distributions of Linux.

Somehow I was able to pack a 7z....

HAVE FUN!!!
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 20 August 2009, 18:10:51
I tried to find out how to uninstall IE and Windows Media Player, but there's really nothing.
I'm 95% sure that you can't.  They're integral to the operating system, so it's a little like saying "I'd like to keep my body, but why can't I get rid of this darn liver?  It's so annoying!"  ;D
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: modman on 20 August 2009, 19:56:48
I tried to find out how to uninstall IE and Windows Media Player, but there's really nothing.
I'm 95% sure that you can't.  They're integral to the operating system, so it's a little like saying "I'd like to keep my body, but why can't I get rid of this darn liver?  It's so annoying!"  ;D
Yes, I understand what you mean.  But that only goes so far; if there were a better liver out there, like say, Liverfox... :D

(excuse the lameness of the joke)

It's really quite simple. Assuming you understand everything except the {startLocation(0)[1] + 5, startLocation(0)[2]} part, then I'll explain that part. It is {x,y} in format, but startLocation(0)[1] returns the x value of faction 0, while startLocation(0)[2] returns the y value of faction 0's start place.  By adding 5, it can assume that we will try to place the unit at 5 more than the X pos of the faction's start location. So if the factions start location is {21,33}, then the above code will be the equivilant of {26,33} ({21+5,33}).
I understand that, but I was just wondering about the bracketed numbers [1] and [2].

I might make a Lua scenario for Dark Magic when it's done.
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Post by: Omega on 21 August 2009, 20:49:37
Yeah, the [1] is x, [2] is y. Took me a moment too. If you want, I'll give you a hand with the lua. I pretty much understand it all. The only person better than me at it is silnarm (and maybe hailstone) because they implimented it. It's a very simple scripting in glest actually.

I wonder if the filesize limit was removed in GAE... Vanilla Glest couldn't play scripts once they got too big (~9+kb). Only one way to find out. Or maybe it wasn't filesize, maybe length of actions?!?

Hmm...

And yeah modman, the joke was kinda lame, no offense. We happen to need our liver. But a rib? That can do! Or maybe a kidney? KidneyFox? Hmm, maybe not.

"God noticed adam looking lonely. He asked what was wrong. Adamn replied that he had no one to spend this paradise with. So god said:

I will make you a woman. She will clean all your dishes, make the beds, cook for you, do all the housework, work full-time, service all your needs, bear you children, and never complain about anything.

Adam was impressed. He asked god how much a woman like this would cost.

God replied, an arm and a leg.

Adam asked, what can I get for a rib?"
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Post by: modman on 21 August 2009, 21:18:38
Yes, I figured it out.  The brackets have to do with the fact that it is an array used to hold the x and y coordinates.

And I will gladly PM you if I have some questions, but it's pretty straightforward to me.
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Post by: modman on 23 August 2009, 01:38:38
I found this wonderful add-on for Firefox called Skip Screen which allows a person to skip all of the clicks needed to download a file.  It skips all of the add-laiden pages and countdowns and gives you the download immediately.

Check it out: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/11243 (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/11243)
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Post by: titi on 23 August 2009, 20:00:45
Nice, I must test this, thanks for the info
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Post by: modman on 24 August 2009, 00:26:38
Sometimes I want to disable it, because I also have Down Them All! which is a download manager as an add on.  So to actually use the download manager, you have to right click the link, but skip screen skips that screen!
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Post by: -Archmage- on 24 August 2009, 22:06:59
I edited a star trek voyager image this evening. I used paint because I'm too lazy to download a different editor, so it came out kind of basic looking.

If I can dig up some of the images I edited a couple of years ago, I'll post them too. Don't worry they're much better than this

(http://i29.tinypic.com/14tpkjb.jpg)
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Post by: John.d.h on 24 August 2009, 23:20:51
Okay, so I just installed the new version of Kubuntu and I can't figure out how to disable the tap-to-click and scrolling features on my mouse touchpad.  It was obvious on regular Ubuntu, but I can't find the option on Kubuntu anywhere.  Anybody know how?  It's driving me a little bit crazy because I keep accidentally clicking on things and scrolling across the screen when I don't mean to.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 24 August 2009, 23:33:45
I use Kubuntu 9.04. I assume that's the version you have.
Tuesday night I will be at my Dads, so I will have access to Kubuntu.

I look into it then.
For now search the internet or train yourself to use it temporarily, or you can just wait until I look for a way to help you.

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Post by: John.d.h on 25 August 2009, 00:26:18
Okay, I guess I'll just play around with it for a while and see what I find.  I've got plenty of things to discover, I'm sure.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 25 August 2009, 00:45:19
See if you can find out whether Linux knows it's on a laptop.
Then go to system settings: K Menu> Computer Tab > System Settings, and fiddle around in there, I believe there is a keyboard/mouse thing to click on which will let you play with the keyboard/mouse settings(obviously :P). See what you can do in there.

If that doesn't work I recommend an internet search.

Good Luck!  :)
Buenos Suerte! :)
Bonne Chance! :)
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Post by: John.d.h on 25 August 2009, 01:17:39
Yeah, that was the first place I looked because that's how I did it on Ubuntu, but Kubuntu doesn't give me that option.  It has various mouse options, sure, but nothing about disabling tap-to-click.  I think I may have found a solution, though.

Edit: Solved it.  In case anyone else is interested in disabling the most annoying feature on any computer ever (yeah, worse than the BSoD), look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1046677
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Post by: Omega on 25 August 2009, 03:47:48
I'm back! ;)

Hey, didn't miss anything, did I?

Good Luck!  :)
Buenos Suerte! :)
Bonne Chance! :)
English, Spanish, and french, right? I didn't know the second word of the second line, but buenos is good. I know chance is luck in french...

Dunno why you hate this feature so much. I use it lots on my windows laptop. It's quieter for when you need total silence (ie: some one asleep literally three feet away) and usually faster for me. Of course, I use a wired laser mouse 95% of the time, so I may not notice it that much!
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Post by: -Archmage- on 25 August 2009, 12:13:02
Uh Omega that says
Good Luck
Buenos suerte(Good Luck)
Bonne chance(Good Luck)

See that's the thing about Linux, someone has always got an answer for you.
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Post by: John.d.h on 25 August 2009, 23:22:37
Dunno why you hate this feature so much. I use it lots on my windows laptop. It's quieter for when you need total silence (ie: some one asleep literally three feet away) and usually faster for me. Of course, I use a wired laser mouse 95% of the time, so I may not notice it that much!
I realize that it makes clicking a lot easier, but it's so sensitive that I accidentally click on things all the time.  If I could configure it so I had to tap a lot harder for it to register as a click, or maybe just tap on a certain part of the touchpad, then I'd be all for it, but as it stands I don't think there's a way to do this.  I'd definitely look into getting an external mouse if I weren't almost always away from home when I do my computing.  That might change soon, though, since my laptop is sitting at home right now hacking my neighbor's wifi.  ;D
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Post by: Mark on 26 August 2009, 00:47:44
I understand your predicament, John.d.h.  The laptop I use has that feature.  It is nice, but it took months to get used to.  Until then I would inadvertently click on anything I dragged my mouse over.
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Post by: John.d.h on 4 September 2009, 03:21:09
Just a small pet peeve of mine: it would be nice if everyone could refrain from posting lots of large images on the forum.  It really clutters up a thread and makes it load a lot slower.  Putting them in url tags instead of img tags would save everyone a little bit of hassle.  That way, everyone still has access to the image but they don't have to load it every time they view the thread.  On top of that, some sites disable hot-linking anyway, so instead of your image you get something like this (http://www.fatblokeracing.org/images/hotlink.jpg).  Note: I'm only talking about large images, since the small ones don't really make much difference.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 4 September 2009, 10:55:28
Ok, yah, I'll change my images to hotlinks in the senior members topic, other's please do the same.
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Post by: Mark on 9 September 2009, 02:22:25
Okay, I don't know if anyone noticed, but I have a thing going where if you can figure out who said my quote, you can choose the next one.  I am changing it to 'A horse, a horse, my kingdom for a horse'.  I hope someone can figure that out.

P.S. Sigismund, a Holy Roman Emperor said "I am the king of Rome, and above grammar.".
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Post by: assassin on 9 September 2009, 18:51:59
That was from Shakespeare's Richard III  ;)
I just saw that play.
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Post by: Mark on 10 September 2009, 02:03:17
Nice.  Whats the next quote?  Make it a hard one, and P.M. me the answer. 
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Post by: John.d.h on 11 September 2009, 20:10:32
In regards to another thread. (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=4555.0)

I consider Canada to be the best place in the world. There's no place I'd rather live. We are well known as the friendliest country in the world, and are also one of the most peaceful.
I've been told it's really clean, too...
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We are probably the only country where every citizen can happily sew their countries flag to their back pack.
I would think the Libyan flag would be the easiest.
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Sorry americans, but comparing canada to USA is contrasting rich to poor. Your country will be indebt for at least a millenium from this year alone at the way it's going!
Individually, Americans are still some of the richest in the world, though with our economy who knows how long that's going to last.  It's mainly just our government that's broke, and our real estate market.
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Your president attacked our HEALTH CARE SYSTEM, one of the best in the WORLD!
Hmm... not sure that putting people on long waiting lists and rationing out the best medications/care is the way to go.  It would be even worse in the USA if we adopted a similar system, because we're always having a massive shortage of health care workers.  If suddenly everybody got free medical care, every doctor and nurse in the country would probably have to start working 90 hours a week to keep up.  As it is, some procedures already have to be scheduled months in advance.  While I really do like the idea of universal health care, it's a very hard system to implement, and even harder to get right.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 11 September 2009, 20:12:51
You know I think my Dad would love to join into this conversation.

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Post by: hailstone on 11 September 2009, 23:24:27
Australia is awesome  ;D. Just had to.  :P
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Post by: Mark on 12 September 2009, 01:46:57
I really don't want to get into politics, because it would make some hard feelings, but America has a lot of problems.  If I only had one thing to say, it would be how impressed I am by your patriotism.  :o I mean, every time I read the news, I feel like everything in the world is going bad for America.  You however, can see lots of positive things in your country.  Good Job!

The quote game has been updated.  Assassin got the last quote, and now the quote is "An eye for eye only ends up making the whole world blind."

P.S. Don't overestimate its difficulty, it is an easy one.  :)
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Post by: silnarm on 12 September 2009, 03:39:58
As a dual citizen of the two best countries in the world, I can concur with both Omega and Hailstone :)

PS: -Gandhi
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Post by: Omega on 12 September 2009, 05:10:33
True Silnarm! I guess most people are proud of their country (though I may doubt that for poor countries, including africa, some parts of south america, and asia). I remember that Gameboy's profile says he dislikes India (or where ever).

My parents are both nurses (Pediatrics and Obstetrics), so trust me, I know our health care fairly well. Of course, it probably differs per province, and mine (saskatchewan) is probably the best place in Canada to be right now. Our economy is the best. The 'recession' didn't affect me one bit, and many people I know (who dont watch the news or read papers) didn't even know there was one! I had appendicitis in Grade 4, and had no troubles.

@Silnarm, what are you a duel-citizen of? Canada and Australia?

PS: I like australia! ;)
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Post by: silnarm on 12 September 2009, 09:21:25
@Silnarm, what are you a duel-citizen of? Canada and Australia?

Yep :) Canadian born, Australian bred.

Pretty sweet deal  ;D
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Post by: -Archmage- on 13 September 2009, 07:15:17
Hey does anybody know how to get rid of Sticky Keys on Kubuntu 9.04.
It's annoying, I was modeling this building for the roman faction I I held down shift a little to long and it's just soooo annoying.........
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Post by: John.d.h on 13 September 2009, 07:26:28
Hey does anybody know how to get rid of Sticky Keys on Kubuntu 9.04.
It's annoying, I was modeling this building for the roman faction I I held down shift a little to long and it's just soooo annoying.........
I think it's in your system tools menu and I seem to remember that it's not under keyboard, so try under accessibility or universal access, whatever the thing for people with disabilities is called.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 13 September 2009, 08:28:38
I want to not be able to turn it on cause I have to keep turning it off all the time.

All the settings are so that I don't get sticky keys unless I activate it, but I activate it so often when I'm holding shift and thinking.
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Post by: Kung Fu Panda on 18 September 2009, 17:13:17
when I press and hold shift for a long time, sticky-keys used to get activated before... I had disabled them from some options where I went from a notice that used to come up whenever I used to hold shift for more than 5 seconds
I use an assembled computer so i don't know the company :P but i use XP if that helps..
I used to deactivate them by holding shift again for some time when i didn't have the guts to venture into the settings ;D tho i don't remember any message coming up..
hope it helped/helps any1 in future  ;)   
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Post by: Kung Fu Panda on 18 September 2009, 17:39:26
sorry for DP - I have no other choice coz im changing topic...
get ready for......      JOKES!!
1st kid:"u know what? My dad can swim so well.. he can jump into the Atlantic ocean and come up in the     Arctic!"
2nd kid:"My Dad can jump into the Indian ocean and come up from the Pacific!"
3rd kid:"Oh yeah? My Dad can jump into a water-tank and come from the pipe!

a guest comes to the house of his ...well you'll know who ...
 the guy's son opens the door.

Guest:"Where is your father?"
son:"He is bed sleeping"(he doesn't know English properly)
the guest gets the idea and goes back... and Dad comes in
Dad:"Who was it son?"
Son:"so-and-so"(it doesn't matter)
Dad:"what did you say?"
Son:"My father is bed sleeping"
Dad:"U IDIOT! *slaps him tight across the cheek*You should've said 'my father was in the toilet!'"
Son:"Okay Dad I'll say it next time"
They go to a shop and son sees mangoes(which he like very much) being brought and put for sale
Son:"Mangoes! big big!"
Dad:"*slaps him tight again*say 'putting big big mangoes!'" (as u see dad isn't that great in Eng either)
Son:"Okay Dad"
going home, a security man stops their vehicle
Security man:"How fast were you driving?"
Son(who happened to answer first):"Car driving 160 speed!!" (its km/h in case you are open-mouthed)
Dad:"*slaps him yet again* say 'AT 160 SPEED!'
Son:"Okay Dad"
Next day.. the guest comes again..
Guest:"Where is your father?"
Son(remembering the slaps):"My father is in the toilet, putting big big mangoes, at 160 speed!"

   
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Post by: assassin on 18 September 2009, 18:53:46
lol, the second joke is nasty...
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Post by: -Archmage- on 18 September 2009, 19:16:30
I gotta show my dad those,  :D :D :D
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Post by: Kung Fu Panda on 19 September 2009, 01:10:32
lol, the second joke is nasty...
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I gotta show my dad those,  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
lol thanks why don't you guys continue by posting your own? ;D

edit(or rather an addition):what does btw mean? ???
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Post by: -Archmage- on 19 September 2009, 15:02:13
BTW= By The Way
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Post by: Kung Fu Panda on 19 September 2009, 15:46:26
Geez it was so simple? I was scratching my head out for almost a week now  :'(
 ;)
btw archmage101, the elementals v1.4 is different from the elementals in the eleminion tech tree rite?
and holy shit! where's the balance? look at the dominion faction!!
anyway,.. HOW THE DO YOU PRODUCE ARCHMAGES!!! ???

in my machine I did some XML editing and gave the temple of myths the skill and command to produce him.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 19 September 2009, 16:13:30
I'll play my mod again sometime next week, and fix it up some if I find any problems.
Also I might do some modeling for it.

But ok ok ok ok ok ENOUGH OFF TOPIC! :P :P ;D.

Contunue this discussion in my Elemental or Eleminion topics.
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Post by: Kung Fu Panda on 19 September 2009, 18:01:40
I'll play my mod again sometime next week, and fix it up some if I find any problems.
Also I might do some modeling for it.
what do you mean 'do some modeling'? You don't mean you're gonna release another version are you?
omg I gotta download 96 MB another time?  :-[
I wish I hadn't told you what I did  lol ;)
well I have a suggestion - the elementals archmage is very strong so make a building for him which you have to make at the very last you know what Im saying?
and perhaps increase his gold cost by a hundred or so id you want ;D
because of his 3000 EP regen rate you can just send him to static fire everyone out!(though its a lot of fun  lol)

edit: in the eliminion tech tree, You could make rebellion a little stronger coz Dominion sucks with AI AND its kinda difficult for Humans and AI rocks with Elementals so just make rebellion a little stronger - perhaps adding a heavy unit or two should do the trick ;D and Presto you have balance! ;D;D
PS and give someone the hero armor man no one has it !
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Post by: -Archmage- on 19 September 2009, 18:07:04
You played with the XML, because I know that I did not set it like that.
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Post by: Omega on 20 September 2009, 01:02:59
I'm BACK! Anyone notice I was away?

I was at this SLC (Student Leadership Conference) in Tisdale, Saskatchewan. Must have been about 1300 people from SRC's (student representive council) from all over the province. Was really great. Best part? Girls out-numbered the guys 3:1! So the dance was awesome, kinda sucks that there was no slow songs...  :o Dunno why, but regardless, it was great!  ;)

I also had a volleyball tournament yesterday and today, but we lost EVERY game! However, that's cause our senior team is VERY small. There's no grade 12's, and only 9 players (7 showed up on this tourney). Oh well, it was fun. I was so used to being power, since I was it for the last two years, but this year I got pushed back to center... Ugh, no where near as good...

BTW, good joke! (Glad you now understand the BTW! ;) )
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Post by: ElimiNator on 20 September 2009, 01:08:25
Hey omega, Are you on the glade team?
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Post by: Kung Fu Panda on 20 September 2009, 13:58:55
You played with the XML, because I know that I did not set it like that.
Of course I played with the XML!
what else do you think 'In my machine I did some XML editing and gave the temple of myths the skill and command to produce him.'?
what I want you to do is make some building that produces the archmage so I don't have to edit XMLs (crap is it a federal offense? the way you said 'You played with the XML, because I know that I did not set it like that' sounded like that you were angry if I'm not wrong ;D)
but I swear to God I didn't edit the XML of the archmage you kept his EP regen of 3000 -
either by mistake or purposefully but I didn't touch that.
If it was a mistake then tell me how it should have been  :-\

Quote
BTW, good joke! (Glad you now understand the BTW!  ;) )
thanks Omega !! : :) Im glad that I understand btw too lol ;)

edit: I can't do ANY MODELING or anything to help in anything in glest though I have a good imagination so after dark magic gets over, I have a suggestion for a new mod... but it'll completely rest on you guys coz I'm 14 years old and totally useless  :( sorry
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Post by: Omega on 21 September 2009, 01:44:20
Well, it's 100% ok to modify the mods. In fact, that's a great idea! However, you SHOULD make a copy of the mod for the changes, and don't ever complain about something not working right unless it is a completely unmodified mod.

I should mention I am only 15, and could do modeling at the age of 14, as well as web design and basic programming, so don't ever say 'Oh I'm too young for that'. Trust me, every thing is possible if you set your mind to it. I would recommend glest.110mb.com for learning modeling/xmls/texturing/blender/etc.

If the archmage's EP is unaturally high... then just change it in the XML!

@ElimiNator: No I'm not, since I prefer to work on my own, but I did make some models for DM before, and if I had the spare time, I could help (but I don't, so oh well  ;) ). Why do you ask? Did something happen while I was away?
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Post by: Mark on 21 September 2009, 01:52:44
I should mention I am only 15, and could do modeling at the age of 14
I have been modeling since about a month ago, and have not yet learned texturing.  I spent a year trying to learn how to model with that old tutorial you released that only contained how to unwrap a UV.  THEN, I got titi's tutorial, and that almost got me there, and while I was still monkeying with my blender I got yours, and that really got me started.  You could say that omega's was more helpful I guess because before I got his I hadn't yet made a textured model.

Edit:  I am now adding Omega's new quote.  He won the quote competition.  The community will have 2 weeks to figure it out before I ask him for a new one. 

The new quote is: "A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on."
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Post by: gameboy on 21 September 2009, 07:28:31
I've been modeling since i was 13, i started texturing when i was 14. I've started writing a book a few months ago. I learnt XML at the age of 11, made a few crappy web pages. Nothing gr8. Just know this your never to young for anything.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 21 September 2009, 11:18:49
I learned XML at age 11.
Learned to model and animate at my current age, 12.

By 14, man, I'm not sure what I'll be doing then...................
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Post by: -Archmage- on 21 September 2009, 12:08:05
BTW, I'm getting my own laptop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D :D :D :D :D
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Post by: Kung Fu Panda on 21 September 2009, 13:41:07
You got me wrong guys
I said 'I'm 14 and totally useless  :( which means I'm sad that I am so
well I'll try out the glest.110mb.com ... what about tutorials you guys can give me some of those and i'll try to do some modeling..
Thanks for inspirations though
archmage101 I am amazed at your age and capabilities  :o though I'm not offending others  :)
btw my idea(s) for new mods were -
(1) Robots (like you know like the move 'The terminator')
(2) a Far-East Faction (The martial arts guys which I almost totally figured out in my head except the air unit lol)

edit: change the 'move' to 'movie'
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Post by: -Archmage- on 21 September 2009, 14:05:41
Thanks!

Well, I'll send you a little help as soon as I can.
(Over PM)
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Post by: Kung Fu Panda on 21 September 2009, 14:07:33
 :)
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Post by: Hectate on 21 September 2009, 14:52:08
Age isn't a problem. What is needed is a desire and willingness to learn, and time to practice. Some people are better at things than other people, but practice is what sets the winners apart. It's been said it takes 10,000 hours to learn the effective use of a skill. If your starting at a young age, you've got a great head start!

I'm 27 but I've been doing modding since Doom and before. My dream is to someday own a game studio. To that end I expose myself to as much game design - and business/people management - as possible. Gamasutra.com always has great articles, check them out if you haven't yet.

On another note - I've found a nice list of screencast software on wikipedia. I'm going to try a few out and start recording some video tutorials. I'll try to do UV unwrap/skinning first in blender, and a few texture techniques in Gimp.

I believe that the "lie" quote is Mark Twain. I did not look it up but I've heard it before.
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Post by: Mark on 22 September 2009, 01:36:18
First off, no, the quote is not Mark Twain, though it does seem a lot like something he would say.

Well, seeing how everyone is posting their famed accomplishments, here I go:
XML: Summer 2008 (11 years)
Modeling (Basics): A month ago to about now (12)
Texturing: A month ago (12)
Animating:  I have no time to learn!!!
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Post by: Kung Fu Panda on 22 September 2009, 07:56:47
Let's change topic here...
I read this article somewhere but can't seem to find it so I can't give link but here's what I remember
'The funniest and most ridiculous language in the world- ENGLISH' - title
let's start with a box, the plural is boxes...
   but the plural of ox is oxen not oxes!
   You can find a lone mouse or a nest full of mice...
   but you can find a house; not a block of hice!
   I can have a broken tooth or a set of teeth...
   and if you see a telephone booth, would many of them be called 'beeth'?
   One fowl is a goose, many are geese...
   then why shouldn't the plural of moose be meese?
   I talk about a foot; and I show you my feet...
   and I give you my boot, would a pair be called beet?
   The plural of that is those...
   but hat in the plural should never be hose....
   nor should cat be cose!
   and the masculine pronouns are he his and him ...
   But imagine the feminine ones she shis and shim!!!

that's all I remember unfortunately :(
 
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Post by: -Archmage- on 22 September 2009, 11:13:43
Ok, Mark, how much free time do you have a day?

By the way I do an internet school now, so I'm at home most of the time, I have enough time to help you out with animation.
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Post by: Hectate on 22 September 2009, 14:05:37
On English: Cleave is a word that is it's own antonym. It means either to split apart, or to join together (not in common use though).

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Post by: John.d.h on 22 September 2009, 19:12:54
If you can say that a teacher taught, then why can't you say that a preacher praught?  Then consider that cough, rough, dough, and bough all use different pronunciations of the "ough" letter combination.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 22 September 2009, 20:11:33
English is an amazing language!  :P
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Post by: Kung Fu Panda on 22 September 2009, 20:32:26
If Vegetarians eat vegetables...
what do humanitarians eat?  ???
:P
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Post by: -Archmage- on 22 September 2009, 20:53:40
Humans!!!! ;D
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Post by: Kung Fu Panda on 22 September 2009, 21:06:50
lol some others..
since there is no time as the present, the man decided that it was the best time to present his present ...

The soldier decided to dessert his desert in the desert

The dove dove into the bushes

a build burns up as it burns down,
you fill in a form by filling it out,
an alarm goes on by going off,...
there's a lot more- I just can't remember where I found that article

edit: make the ''build'' ''building''
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Post by: ElimiNator on 22 September 2009, 21:56:34
Those are good ones. ;D
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Post by: -Archmage- on 22 September 2009, 22:15:36
Yes, they are. :)
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Post by: Hectate on 22 September 2009, 22:34:30
Don't forget that you park on the driveway and drive on parkway.
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Post by: Kung Fu Panda on 22 September 2009, 23:08:20
lol thanks

not to mention it is entirely sensible to send shipment by truck and send cargo on ship...
and sweetmeats aren't sweet and neither are they sweet while sweetbreads which aren't sweet again are bread..
guinea pigs are neither from guinea(pronounced 'ginnee') nor are they pigs
if writers write then y don't fingers fing, hammers don't ham and grocers don't groce!

PS what do you think of the text near my profile pic(that's supposed to be)?
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Post by: Kung Fu Panda on 23 September 2009, 13:35:05
Guys I need help with blender...
how to use the scale tool? suppose I wanted to make the starting cube longer, as told in glest.110mb.com, it doesn't exactly show step by step (which is what I need) - suppose I wanted to make the cube as long as a foot - how to do it?
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Post by: -Archmage- on 23 September 2009, 13:48:18
Well you grab the side and move it.
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Post by: Kung Fu Panda on 23 September 2009, 14:33:11
I can't - when I try to drag the side , a line comes and as I move the mouse it comes with my mouse - like how you draw with a pencil in paint ???
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Post by: -Archmage- on 23 September 2009, 14:41:01
You right click to grab the side, but you have to be in edit mode, and you have to have the faces thing selected.
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Post by: Kung Fu Panda on 23 September 2009, 14:42:34
oh I need to select the faces thing too? thanks :) I didn't know that
do you know where I can find detailed step by step tutorials?
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Post by: Hectate on 23 September 2009, 16:33:31
Go to blender.org and look under the education tab for the "noob to pro" tutorial. Its a little sketchy on some of the higher end things, but basic modelling is fairly in depth.

To answer your specific question, you need to right click to select the needed vertex (or edge/face) and press G to "Grab" them and move them. You can also them press X Y Or Z to restrict movement to the matching axis.

A fast selection tool for vertecies is the box and brush selection tools. If you press B your cursor becomes a click and drag rectangle selection tool. If ypou press it a second time it becomes a round "brush" (like in gimp) and clicking will select anything inside. Use a scroll wheel to change it's size if it's too big or small.

Don't forget to use extrude also! That is handy for expanding things if they'll need further alterations later.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 23 September 2009, 17:01:17
I made a tutorial for basic modeling.
Will post soon.
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Post by: Mark on 23 September 2009, 22:14:47
As to how much time I have, well, when I say I have a lot I really mean I have a lot compared with many people around me.  As the season changes to winter I will have more and more time.
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Post by: Kung Fu Panda on 23 September 2009, 22:56:06
I get a maximum of 2 hours a day :(
and I found a website with WONDERFUL video tutorials - oh crap 4got to put in bookmarks but ima check from history - but it ROCKS! for those who want to know, put blender tutorials in google and follow the result that shows up with wikipedia and if your lucky you might reach the destiny! ;)
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Post by: -Archmage- on 23 September 2009, 23:10:50
I have to make my time. :-\
If I want to do something I have to sacrifice something else.
Now I have a lot of free time, as I got school out of the way, big waste of my time.
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Post by: Hectate on 24 September 2009, 02:03:22
I love to make my time. Do you?

Quote
What happen?

Someone set us up the bomb!

We get signal!

What!
Main screen turn on.
It's you!

How are you gentlemen!!
All your base are belong to us.
You are on the way to destruction.

What you say!

You have no chance to survive make your time.
Ha Ha Ha.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 24 September 2009, 11:15:24
 ;D
I don't know, if someone's about to kill me I'll make all the time in the world...................just so I can get away from the bomb........ :P
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Post by: -Archmage- on 25 September 2009, 14:21:05
I'm getting my laptop TONIGHT!!!
Yah.

Cost: $700

Specs:
    * 2.2GHz 3.6GT/s AMD Turion X2 Dual-Core Mobile Processor RM-74 with 1MB L2 cache delivers mobile performance
    * 18.4" diagonal widescreen TruBrite TFT LCD with 1680 x 945 HD+ native resolution and native support for 720p content
    * 320GB, 5,400rpm Serial ATA hard disk drive provides ample storage
    * 4GB 800MHz DDR2 memory can be expanded up to 8GB for faster multitasking
    * DVD SuperMulti drive with Labelflash supports 11 formats
    * Realtek 802.11b/g/n wireless LAN allows work or play on a wireless network or at hotspots
    * 10/100 Ethernet permits easy wired networking
    * Modem provides convenient access to a dial-up connection
    * 2 USB 2.0 ports and 1 eSATA/USB 2.0 combo port with USB sleep and charge feature for charging peripherals while the laptop is in sleep mode
    * i.LINK IEEE 1394 port allows for rapid transfer of data
    * Media and CD/DVD control buttons provide 1-touch control when playing media files
    * eco utility button puts the laptop in energy-saving mode
    * ATI Radeon HD 3200 graphics with 256 – 1,662MB of dynamically allocated shared graphics memory
    * Memory card reader is compatible with SD Card, SDHC Card, Memory Stick, Memory Stick PRO, MultiMediaCard and xD Picture Card
    * Built-in harman/kardon stereo speakers provide rich sound
    * AMD M780G chipset supplies reliable performance
    * Built-in microphone and webcam enable face-to-face online chat
    * 104-key US keyboard with 10-key numeric pad for comfortable data entry
    * Touchpad pointing device with multitouch control and enable/disable provides smooth navigation
    * Fusion Finish with sonic pattern in black onyx for a sleek look
    * Includes Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit operating system (SP1)
    * Included Software: electronic user's guide, Bluetooth Stack for Windows by Toshiba, Toshiba Resources page, Toshiba Recovery Disc Creator, Toshiba ConfigFree, Toshiba Disc Creator, Toshiba DVD Player, Toshiba Face Recognition, Toshiba Power Saving ECO utility, Toshiba PC Health Monitor, Toshiba Hard Drive Impact 3-D Sensor, Hard Disc Drive (HDD) Recovery, Microsoft Windows Media Player, Microsoft Works 9, Google Toolbar, Google Picasa, Sun Java 2 Runtime Environment, Adobe Acrobat Reader, Corel DVD MovieFactory for Toshiba, PowerCinema for Toshiba, WildTangent Orb Game Console, Norton Internet Security 2009 (30-day trial) and Microsoft Office Home and Student 2007 Edition (60-day trial)
    * Inputs: 1 microphone, 1 i.LINK IEEE 1394, 3 USB 2.0, 1 eSATA/USB combo, 1 RJ-45 LAN, 1 RJ-11 modem, 1 slot for security lock
    * Outputs: 1 RGB monitor, 1 headphone
    * Expansion Slots: 1 ExpressCard/34 and 54
    * Rechargeable 12-cell 8,000mAh Li-Ion battery pack provides up to 3 hours and 33 minutes of power
    * Includes laptop computer, AC adapter and Li-Ion battery
    * Dimensions: 11.6"l x 17.4"w x 1.6"h
    * Weight: starting at 9.
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Post by: Kung Fu Panda on 25 September 2009, 14:27:23
nice that kind of laptop would cost around 3000 SR - around $750  :D
anyway,...
http://www.animationforcreation.com/2008/09/lesson-one-basics-of-blender.html
here's the direct link to the first lesson - they're a series of flash videos with sound (and load VERY fast ;D)
once you've finished with the videos in first lesson, on the right side there is a list of all lessons :D
you know what I recommend those of you here who are not pros to see the last lessons a become pros
 hope it helped ;D
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Post by: John.d.h on 25 September 2009, 18:02:36
Hmm... I think I've already learned the basics of Blender, but I think I'll have to check that video out anyway, just in case there's something I'm missing.
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Post by: Omega on 25 September 2009, 20:24:50
Nice laptop! And a Toshiba too! I personally prefer Toshiba's over any other brand. It's what I use. Good deal too. Never did like 64 bit OS's though. Just not compatible enough for me...

I think I'll skip the blender video, for more reasons than one... ;)

Its getting monotone around here. You guys are being too serious! :D

I'm now delivering my new 'Health Plan Cure' for that:


The americans and the canadians decide to have a competitive boat race. Both teams practise long and hard for the race. On the peak day, they feel ready. The Canadians won by a mile.

Afterwards, the american team was discouraged by the loss. Moral saged. Corporate management decided they had to find the reason for that loss. They hire a consultant firm to investigate the problem and find a recommended corrective solution.

The consultant's finding: The canadian team had eight people rowing and one person steering. The american team had one person rowing and eight people steering. After years of study and millions of dollars spent, the firm deducted that too many people steering wasn't good. So on race day the next year, the american's team structure was completely revamped. The new structure: Four steering managers, three area steering managers, and a new performance review system for the person rowing the boat to provide work incentive.

This time, they lost by two miles. Humilated, the american corporation laid off the worker for poor performance and gave the managers a bonus for finding the problem.
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Post by: ElimiNator on 25 September 2009, 21:37:58
HA HA good one  ;D
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Post by: -Archmage- on 26 September 2009, 00:40:14
Hey, we americans are not at all dumb, well........at least not me anyway..... :P.
Besides we have some of the most advanced technology in the world, we wouldn't make stupid mistakes like that.

But it is funny, I can imagine a few people being the stupid................ ::)
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Post by: Omega on 26 September 2009, 00:44:27
HEY, don't get me wrong! :o

I'm not saying your dumb or anything. It's basically portraiting your banks and major business though.

No offense, but your banks are TERRIBLE! Canada has some of the strongest banks in the world (and the smartest).

There's been some times when you've had some really corrupt CEOs too. I'm merely um... stating... that american corporations just aren't the best at handling things.

Besides it's a joke. Lighten up! :D I know plenty of genius americans.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 26 September 2009, 00:46:05
Hey you're getting me wrong, I was being "seriously funny".
Get it? ;D
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Post by: Omega on 26 September 2009, 00:57:37
...You're going to kill me one of these days  :D

Heh, hah... eh? :P
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Post by: Mark on 26 September 2009, 01:04:16
Hey, I agree that corporate america is really not going in the right direction.  I mean, just now two senators used PAC funding to go to the Greenbrier resort in Virginia.

I really don't think that he meant all americans are stupid, arch, but some of my classmates are.  I mean, there is really a fundamental lack of interest in current events.  I really don't want to go into detail, but it is like a plague.  I consider myself, however, to be a good citizen for being compliant with rules and for showing interest in school.  I am definitely one of the smartest kids I know.  Alot of my intellectual superiors are above my age, like modman.

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Post by: -Archmage- on 26 September 2009, 01:05:57
No, I will not kill you.
30-day free guarantee.
$9999 for another guarantee.

Without guarantee:
..........................
Will not go into detail for: "unknown reasons"

So, buy your guarantee now.
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Post by: Mark on 26 September 2009, 01:13:18
Whoa, so you go from

i'M TO YOUNG TO DIE

to
No, I will not kill you.
30-day free guarantee.
$9999 for another guarantee.

Without guarantee:
..........................
Will not go into detail for: "unknown reasons"

So, buy your guarantee now.

Very interesting.  :D
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Post by: -Archmage- on 26 September 2009, 01:24:08
Well, powerful have I become, since someone last talked of death.......... :P
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Post by: John.d.h on 26 September 2009, 05:25:24
I don't know much of anything about how Canadian corporations work, but I think that really is a pretty good analogy for how a lot of American ones work.  It reminds me of the movie "Office Space".  I highly recommend watching it.
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Post by: Kung Fu Panda on 26 September 2009, 05:27:53
Canada may have some of the most powerful or smartest banks in the world but the reason that America's banks suffered the most is coz the WHOLE HEART OF THE AMERICAN BANKING SYSTEM was planned by the Jews-not that they're not smart, they are the smartest recorded race. But it had a flaw, which they tried to hide but it all came out now and the whole structure crumpled like tinfoil. The American banking deals with EPIC amounts of interests and a very ridiculous concept(no offense) called 'Virtual money' which while explaining seems very practical indeed but when put to practice doesn't seem applicable at all. America is controlled by Israel if you don't know. When a Jewish guy was asked(in private and not in News Channels) "do you think Obama will continue the siege and masacre in Iraq and Afghanistan?" he replied with 100% confidence, "Of course he will! We brought him to the White House for being President or for sweeping the floor?"
I know this I'm not blabbering
PS and enough of this - I hate America for what it has done to Muslims coz I'm one though now that Obama is doing something to decrease my hatred a bit but I still hate America.
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Post by: Kung Fu Panda on 26 September 2009, 05:32:26
something else : The 'economic depression' that the world has suffered is just a cover-up name.
If you have noticed only the banks that deal with the American system of banking suffered most - America, Dubai, etc and the whole system of Virtual money was crushed. So in my opinion this should much better be called 'Great economic Cleanup' I swear. You see Saudi suffered negligibly, coz it follows a system way different from the Jewish banking
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Post by: John.d.h on 26 September 2009, 06:25:57
Well the problem with "virtual money" is that it only works if it's kept in motion.  It's like if you have ten people and only eight chairs.  If people are constantly standing up and sitting down, then it's fine because you'll have at least two people standing and you'll have plenty of chairs.  The problem is when everybody stops moving, you've got two people left wondering "what happened to my seat?"

Edit: Speaking of Canada:
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/canada.png)
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Post by: Omega on 26 September 2009, 09:46:13
Hah Hah! I like that comic!

I can't seem to find any canadian comics with google... Are we not funny enough?!?

I'd expect more from the world's biggest beer drinkers!
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Post by: Kung Fu Panda on 26 September 2009, 14:09:55
lol ahahahaha
and btw you hit the nail in the head Omega :D

edit: including Omega, I actually meant to say john.d.h sorry no offense
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Post by: hailstone on 27 September 2009, 00:20:34
Quote
I'd expect more from the world's biggest beer drinkers!
Unless something happened in 5 years Wikipedia disagrees with you. Canada comes in at number 19 in 2004. Australia at number 4, although Canada has higher consumption. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_beer_consumption_per_capita
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Post by: wciow on 27 September 2009, 09:11:23
UK is 6th in the world. As a good citizen I need to help my country become top in the world.

Bring on the beer!!
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Post by: Omega on 27 September 2009, 18:07:14
What? This CANNOT BE!!! Damn.

Ok, moving on...

I've been looking around, and I must say, I'm excited for HTML 5. However, the only problem is that even once firefox fully supports it, everyone would need a new version, and IE will probably be at least five years behind. However, it sure would be great. Most people never realize just how hard parsing forms can be. It gets very tiresome going through regular expressions (which are probably the most complexe single part of javascript) to check data. But HTML 5 includes special types of input elements that will allow for automatic parsing. For example, range (ie: 1-5), teletphone, number, email, url, search, etc; In short, it's great. There's also a TON of very shiny new features that will help for using inputs, including a vast number of new attributes.

I just had a lengthy look at how the <canvas> tag works via mozilla's developement center. It looks very interesting, and I wonder if I could use it to make an abstract background for pages by having a full sized canvas and displaying everything else on top of it via z-index. Even if that doesn't work, the canvas could be quite fun! Full JS control!

The video and audio elements are quite obvious what they do. They are a great idea. I'm not sure if any of your have ever tried, but displaying a video or a sound in HTML can be a pain in the ass (more so for the video).

Of course, a load of other things are nice, and the deprecation of many bad elements is great, since it prevents noobs from learning the WRONG way to webdesign, thus securing the internet's future. (Notice how many new people use the <font> tag? Just can't figure it out...)
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Post by: John.d.h on 27 September 2009, 20:18:24
HTML?  Seriously?  Get with the times, man.  It's all about XHTML now. :P
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Post by: modman on 27 September 2009, 21:40:08
No offense, but your banks are TERRIBLE! Canada has some of the strongest banks in the world (and the smartest).

How can you tell me that the banks in the US aren't powerful?  The Federal Reserve is owned by banks in the US and controls the value of the dollar!  Anyways, I personally think that banking would be in big trouble if people knew how it worked.  They're selling money!  Plus, they don't always have to have the money in hand to loan it to you; this is why a run on the bank is so bad.  The bank only orchestrates and funnels the money around.

Anyways, you guys should all know the dollar is dead.  They're already making the Amero.  This is why I always see commercials on TV of places wanting to buy my gold; they know what's coming.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_rGg84X04BIU/RuALypEFGhI/AAAAAAAABB4/2fZYVzIh9h0/s400/amero.jpg)

//Edit:

WHAT??  How does Uganda make #1 for alcohol consumption per capita?  Link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_alcohol_consumption)
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Post by: Omega on 28 September 2009, 18:54:30
Dude, XHTML is just a stricter HTML. Technically, HTML 5m is the equivilant of XHTML 2. It's even stricter to my knowledge. BTW, I was testing canvas animation, and I'll show you a beautiful idea soon!
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Post by: titi on 28 September 2009, 21:15:48
This one looks very good and is available for linux too....( you can play the beta for free)
But its very hard to learn ( in my opinion )

http://www.heroesofnewerth.com

By the way, I will soon have more time for glest again, I was very involved in the german Bundestags election working a lot for the pirate party .
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Post by: hailstone on 29 September 2009, 00:53:30
I've been playing Heroes of Newerth. It's based off the popular DoTA and has lots of eye candy. It is hard to learn but it's still fun.
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Post by: Mark on 29 September 2009, 01:41:34
Is Heroes of Newerth not free, or is it just in development.  Can someone give a description of it please, because it looks cool.

Edit: This is so similar to Savage: A tortured soul.  Is there a connection?
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Post by: John.d.h on 29 September 2009, 02:32:57
Dude, XHTML is just a stricter HTML. Technically, HTML 5m is the equivilant of XHTML 2. It's even stricter to my knowledge.
XHTML also has the benefit of not speeding towards being obsolete nearly as fast.  If I remember correctly, the W3C has already said that the new version of HTML will be the last.
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Post by: hailstone on 29 September 2009, 03:37:44
Is Heroes of Newerth not free, or is it just in development.  Can someone give a description of it please, because it looks cool.

Edit: This is so similar to Savage: A tortured soul.  Is there a connection?
Same developers as Savage but it's not free. Currently it's in open beta so you can play for free until it is finished. It's basically DotA built with a different engine. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_of_the_Ancients
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Post by: -Archmage- on 3 October 2009, 04:42:24
My Dad's a programmer, says he's learned about 10 languages, and thinks it not hard to learn them. Today or rather yesterday, was his birthday, he is now 63.
For his birthday, I was planning to give him that hero model, fully animated, and well textured, but I don't know how to texture, and Hectate never finished the one he started(time, I understand), but I think it's make a good Christmas present. Hectate, I must thank you, because I believe you left me in a place where I can continue work on the texture. Well, while I was homeschooling myself, I baked him some delicious muffins, and let then on a plate under a sheet of plastic, he said they were yummy. Believe me I'm an awful cook, but when I follow directions I do a pretty good job.
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Post by: Kung Fu Panda on 3 October 2009, 15:12:13
just out of curiosity, how does homeschooling work? Like what's the... kinda concept behind it?
like does a teacher come to your house or something?

oh and tell your dad happy birthday from me :D
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Post by: -Archmage- on 3 October 2009, 15:49:44
No, I stay home. And go to etap.org, which you have to pay for, but I hate regular school so much. To find out about homeschooling just look it up.
Right now I'm doing trigonometry in math, I'm not really sure in LA, and I'm doing the SS lessons just about one per day, science I just finished the genetics lesson.
Can't wait to do physic, because that has always interested me.
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Post by: Omega on 4 October 2009, 21:44:19
Homeschooling... Must be interesting. I learn most of my new things from the web anyway. Most homeschooled people I know are taught by their parents though. For example, I've learned almost 100% of my computer knowledge on my own, some through trial and error, some through the web, and some through various sources (including my BRAIN). The only thing about computers I didn't learn on my own was typing, thanks to the school's ULTRA DULL typing software. Was a pain in the ass, but now I can type 90 words per minute.

BTW: Physics IS awesome. My school doesn't let you do physics until grade 11, so I learned a bit from the web. I guess that's one disadvantage of small rural schools...

I myself am a master cook (a master chef, get it? Halo? :D). I'm the kind of guy who does home ec instead of IA. I consider it more handy in the future, and besides, cookies beat a wooden shelf. I mean, you can't EAT a wooden shelf!?!

Say, new topic: What is your all time favorite game and WHY?

I'll go first: Final Fantasy IX. Not just any Final Fantasy, Final Fantasy IX! The ultimate game ever, and the last final fantasy with random battles. It had the BEST storyline I had ever seen, and actually made me almost cry at some points it got so sad. But it wasn't all good storyline. It also has a vibrant, powerful battles, and the secret optional boss ozma was very difficult, and took a LONG time to reach. It had the BEST minigames in the entire Final Fantasy series (the card games were fun, and Chocobo Hot and Cold was VERY rewarding!).

I noticed most games had a dull, monoset bunch of civilians, but in FFIX, you could talk to just about anyone, and even after the destruction of alexandria, people are cheerfully going about trying to rebuild it, a cook is seen pounding happily on a nail with his pan, and all the characters are light and happy, despite the often dark, evil acts of the antagonists.

The number of extras, secrets, and hidden things in the game is amazing. There's a wide variety of foes, spells, equipment, items, minigames, and more. My ultimate save has clocked 250 hours, every level maxed (and there's like 8 or so playable characters, but you can only have four at a time), all items, all ultimate weapons, defeated ozma, hades, and every other optional boss, got the 'hammer' for the special ending, completed Chocobo Hot and Cold, completed Mognet, and have all 100 cards (though no max rank. Seems to be impossible. Damn). And I have two other saves as well going for a combined time of over 350 hours of gamplay. Yes, that's one game for the PS1.

If you don't have this game, download an emulator, and play it NOW (of course, I believe emulators are illegal. I dunno. I don't use em. Couldn't figure out how to get them to work).
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Post by: -Archmage- on 4 October 2009, 21:53:47
I don't really have a favorite game.....................

But I'd say I like Star Trek Legacy a lot, Starship battling, I'm pretty good at it too. It doesn't lag much on my new laptop, except when you do the massive race wars scenarios, then there is like 100 high-poly ships on the screen. It's a very fun game! But you have to buy it..............................Of course I could always stick all the files on a disk in a 7zip archive, and upload! :D But you're not allowed to do that..................so come up with $30, and buy it! :D
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Post by: Kung Fu Panda on 5 October 2009, 13:30:52
Counter strike ;D
it's a bit violent but you can get really good at it with experience - what I like - it takes a really long time to master and u play with other players on servers. U can chat, there are admin privileges - which u can get if the owner of the server knows u and trusts u. Without internet it's basically useless - just kill...
but when u play in multiplayer, it's a whole different story.
If you're lookin for it I recommend Counter strike 1.6 as it is the most popular currently and u can find many servers to play on and make friends.
the multiplayer is kinda' same like in Glest but u don't have to speak with others to start a game - it's related to half life.
Other things u learn by experience - u can't understand if I tell - like Glest
btw we start physics in grade 9 and I HATE it - because our teacher can't even speak a proper English sentence while explaining!! he gives notes in exemplary english though (indicating he just by-hearted theories and didn't understand them fully) and when he gives a law or formula, he just tells what it states and doesn't tell when to use it, how, etc! Even the textbook sucks ...  
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Post by: John.d.h on 5 October 2009, 18:11:47
btw we start physics in grade 9 and I HATE it - because our teacher can't even speak a proper English sentence while explaining!! he gives notes in exemplary english though (indicating he just by-hearted theories and didn't understand them fully) and when he gives a law or formula, he just tells what it states and doesn't tell when to use it, how, etc! Even the textbook sucks ...  
I know what you mean.  Last year I had physics (in college) and my professor had such a strong accent that I understood barely anything he said.  I've had professors from Morocco, Jamaica, Italy, Russia, India, and probably a few other places I'm forgetting, and I understood all of them just fine, but this guy was incomprehensible.  I ended up failing the first exam and dropping the class.

In regards to games, some of my favorites are...

Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind, Warcraft 2 & 3, Medieval: Total War, Age of Mythology, LoZ: Ocarina of Time, LoZ: A Link to the Past, Goldeneye, Halo 2, Killer Instinct Gold, Knights of the Old Republic, Battle for Wesnoth, Baldur's Gate 2

Honorable mention (i.e. really fun, but just missing a little something):
Elder Scrolls 1: Arena (kind of a pain to run because I have to use an emulator), Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion (looks amazing but I couldn't get out of the first area without crashing), Republic Commando (too short!), Glest (currently lacks a lot of features), Diablo 1 & 2 (repetitive), Atlantica Online (I kinda quit playing after my guild dissolved), Homeworld (the controls are a little weird)
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Post by: Kung Fu Panda on 6 October 2009, 09:18:10
btw we start physics in grade 9 and I HATE it - because our teacher can't even speak a proper English sentence while explaining!! he gives notes in exemplary english though (indicating he just by-hearted theories and didn't understand them fully) and when he gives a law or formula, he just tells what it states and doesn't tell when to use it, how, etc! Even the textbook sucks ...  
I know what you mean.  Last year I had physics (in college) and my professor had such a strong accent that I understood barely anything he said.  I've had professors from Morocco, Jamaica, Italy, Russia, India, and probably a few other places I'm forgetting, and I understood all of them just fine, but this guy was incomprehensible.  I ended up failing the first exam and dropping the class.
Well I got 89 % in physics in the first terminal exams - thanks to my father. Though a pediatrician(doctor of children) he still remembers physics! :D
anyway what do you mean by 'dropping the class'? I didn't quite get you
and I study in an all Indian school so all teachers are from India - and Indian accents can get VERY difficult to understand
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Post by: gameboy on 6 October 2009, 14:07:20
I'm a home schooler and it rocks, better than indian schools anyway. my mom teaches me most of the stuff, science is my dads area so i learn from him. in India my family was the first to homeschool, so we were pretty stumped when it came to higher education, cause u needed a certificate. you can get that by answering an exam, which allows u to study at home. this system was meant for the drop outs of school and uneducated adults of the country so its a bit harder and boringer than the normal stream...its my turn this year...exams suck :P
Physics is good, i totally hate chemistry..sucks. i like math and i hate english...cause its so bad...
btw i love the english language :P

@Panda where do u live?
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Post by: John.d.h on 6 October 2009, 21:27:24
anyway what do you mean by 'dropping the class'? I didn't quite get you
and I study in an all Indian school so all teachers are from India - and Indian accents can get VERY difficult to understand
It just means I withdrew from the class and didn't get a grade for it.  I still had to pay for it, though.  There are a lot of Indians at my school, both students and professors, because we have one of the best colleges of engineering in the country.  I recall hearing somewhere that India has the highest percentage of engineers of any country in the world.  I can normally understand Indians if they've been in America for a while because the accent gets more Americanized.  My last landlord was from India, but he barely sounded like it at all.

Physics is good, i totally hate chemistry..sucks. i like math and i hate english...cause its so bad...
btw i love the english language :P
I always thought math and all of the sciences were really interesting by themselves, but the actual classes were pretty awful.  I've never been a big fan of English class, or the English written language.  Personally I think the whole English phonetic system needs to be remade, since it doesn't make any sense at the moment, which makes it really hard to figure out any word you've never seen/heard before, especially for dyslexic people.  A lot of dyslexics have no problem reading and writing Spanish, for example, because the phonetics in that language are really consistent.
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Post by: Mark on 7 October 2009, 00:31:32
Yeah, english is the largest language in the world.  I like science and math, but my real fascination is social studies and history.  I just love to learn about athens and rome, especially.

edit:  Oh, I forgot.  Arch won the quote competition.  The new quote is "I think the next best thing to solving a problem is finding some humor in it.".
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Post by: -Archmage- on 7 October 2009, 01:23:11
Have Fun with that one! ;D
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Post by: draline on 8 October 2009, 04:33:33
Does anyone play table top style RPGs anymore. Gurps , Antaria, Dungeons and Dragons, Worlds of Darkness etc. I am in the process of turning Antaria into an Online RPG right now. basically using php and mysql. Yes i admit i am using the Kallen Source code as a guide. Yes Ayrin will get the credit he deserves for intially putting the script together giving me something to work off of.

I was wondering if anyone might possibly have the wbuilder.php script for kallen to expand the map etc.
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Post by: John.d.h on 8 October 2009, 04:50:25
I used to play D&D way back in the day, but not since like 2000 or 2001, shortly after 3rd edition came out.  I've done a little reading about 4th edition, and it sounds like crap!
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Post by: draline on 8 October 2009, 06:26:08
anything past second edition when Gary Stopped being a major factor in it. Was crap as far as Dungeons and Dragons go in my opinion.
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Post by: John.d.h on 8 October 2009, 06:43:06
Second edition was good, but I feel like certain parts were a little clumsy, like different experience charts for different classes (especially the druid) and THAC0.  Third edition streamlined certain aspects quite a bit (standardized experience chart, no more THAC0, no minimum ability scores), but also introduced some things I didn't care for, like the ridiculous dire flail and the whole "edgy" artistic style, along with making magic items so easy to produce (although they were ridiculously hard to produce in 2E, so some kind of happy medium would have been good).  The addition of feats and skills made characters more customizable, without being as complicated as the "character points" system like in the 2E Player's Compendium or the dueling rules in the combat handbook (whose name eludes me at the moment), so I think that was a good thing, but then 4E takes it to the absolute extreme, giving powers to every class, like the special moves in Mortal Kombat or something.  If I had to pick any one edition to call the best, I think it would be the third, but it would be better with a few 2E elements in it.  That's what house rules are for, right? ;)
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Post by: draline on 8 October 2009, 06:53:03
You see After Gary Gygax was pretty much forced to sell D&D. Those who took it over forgot one simple Concept that Gary Gygax taught us. The KISS principle. Keep it Simple Stupid. No actual true gamer who is not a god modder or power freak wants to spend an hour making his character to just play the game.

Also not to take anything away from anyone else. Gary gave us the concept of an RPG. However he never could have imagined how well it would take off. we have major online rpgs etc. that pretty much came from his simple concepts of roleplay gaming.
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Post by: Kung Fu Panda on 8 October 2009, 08:49:06
I live in a country called Saudi Arabia - an Arab Islamic country. My dad works in a govt engineering university compound clinic.
Yeah, english is the largest language in the world.
ahem where did u get that from? if u have ever seen arabic u'll be amazed. English is but nothing. Well if u meant that English was the most spoken language in the world i agree but largest - I don't think so. u know in Arabic THERE ARE NO SYNONYMS! NO 2 WORDS MEAN THE SAME THING! (there are more words that english already)
I like science and math, but my real fascination is social studies and history.  I just love to learn about athens and rome, especially.
ewww ugh History? Mark I can't believe how u can learn history! I can read history - so long as i just have to read and not remember it ;D
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Post by: -Archmage- on 8 October 2009, 11:03:13
Actually that's where you are wrong, English is the biggest language, that's why it has tons of synonyms, and homophones, and all that.
Have you ever seen the entire dictionary. It's massive, and all the words are just tiny.

BTW, Longest word in the English language: pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis (45 letters)
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Post by: draline on 8 October 2009, 16:30:13
The Top 10 Table Top RPGS of all time : Basically My extremely educated opinion here( been Gaming for um 28 plus years)
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1. Dungeons and Dragons ( First and second editions only )
2.Antaria ( Kind of biased because i am its creator)
3.GammaWorld
4.Lejendary ( The last game created by the master of gaming Gary Gygax before his death)
5.Gammworld
6.Gurps
7.WOD ( any of em if you go by the rules and guidelines of the books)
8.Paladium
9.Champions
10.call of Cthulu

Top 10 Video.Online/computer RPGS
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1. Dungeons and Dragons Online
2. World of Warcraft( Though really dont care for it personally in a lot of ways they did an excellent job with it)
3.Everquest
4.Stawars Galaxies
5.Ultima
6.Zelda
7.Runequest
8.Starcaft
9,Dungeonseige
10.Runescape

These are my opinion on the best games of each ever made. I am not stating fact only one fact that there is to gaming. DnD pretty much started it all.

The Most complex languages in the world is the asiatic languages Chinese, Japanese . The biggest language ever done though it know longer exist is Linear B its where latin and english and most of the european languages came from .

If anyone has the php code for the wbuilder for the php world of kallen script please pm me.
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Post by: Omega on 9 October 2009, 01:18:03
Holy crap! Kung Fu lives in Saudi Arabia, one of my personal least favorite countries in the world... No offense Kung, but I personally am STRONGLY against the countries laws and rights. Seems like a terrible place to live...

BTW, english is the most commonly known language in the world. While more people speak chinese (I mean honestly, they breed like mice. Billions...) as their primary language, English is the most commonly known language, as it has the largest number of people that CAN speak it. In fact, I'm sure that many non-english countries teach it in schools (confirm?).
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Post by: draline on 9 October 2009, 05:26:34
Um I just noted that chinese is the hardest most complex language in the world. Not the most common lol. Um its hard to understand one another village to village in japan unless you speak mandarin .
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Post by: Hectate on 9 October 2009, 14:07:30
I've missed a bit in this thread - here's my take on the various subjects discussed.

For his birthday, I was planning to give him that hero model, fully animated, and well textured, but I don't know how to texture, and Hectate never finished the one he started(time, I understand), but I think it's make a good Christmas present. Hectate, I must thank you, because I believe you left me in a place where I can continue work on the texture.

Glad to be of some assistance. The .xcf should be easy enough to edit in GIMP even for a person that doesn't use Blender (although it'll be hard to see the changes on the model itself if that were the case.

just out of curiosity, how does homeschooling work? Like what's the... kinda concept behind it?
like does a teacher come to your house or something?
I was homeschooled as well. Our family moved frequently for my dad's job, so homeschooling was the most efficient method of taking care of my education (as well as my siblings). I did also attend a couple of private schools, when we knew that we'd be around long enough to complete a year or more - but my education was mostly at home. I will say that being a textbook learner (my mom couldn't always teach some of the more advanced subjects) teaches you to be self-sufficient. That's why I like tutorials so much, it suites my learning style. Oh, and in the USA people pretty much expect home-schoolers to not have a high-school diploma - but that's not necessarily the case. I was officially enrolled in "CLASS", which is Christian Liberty Academy Satellite Schools - their homeschool program. They set an official curriculum - requiring certain books and subjects - and graded about half of my work (mom did the other half). As a result, when I completed the necessary requirements, I got an actual diploma from them. My wife did essentially the same thing through another program called A Beka Book.
In short, homeschooling isn't for everyone, but it can be great. I enjoyed it.

Canada may have some of the most powerful or smartest banks in the world but the reason that America's banks suffered the most is coz the WHOLE HEART OF THE AMERICAN BANKING SYSTEM was planned by the Jews-not that they're not smart, they are the smartest recorded race. But it had a flaw, which they tried to hide but it all came out now and the whole structure crumpled like tinfoil. The American banking deals with EPIC amounts of interests and a very ridiculous concept(no offense) called 'Virtual money' which while explaining seems very practical indeed but when put to practice doesn't seem applicable at all. America is controlled by Israel if you don't know. When a Jewish guy was asked(in private and not in News Channels) "do you think Obama will continue the siege and masacre in Iraq and Afghanistan?" he replied with 100% confidence, "Of course he will! We brought him to the White House for being President or for sweeping the floor?"
I know this I'm not blabbering
PS and enough of this - I hate America for what it has done to Muslims coz I'm one though now that Obama is doing something to decrease my hatred a bit but I still hate America.


Wow, I'm not sure where to start. I'm sorry that you dislike my country. I have no problem with yours, even concerns about human rights raised by recognized organizations are outside of my personal experience. Obviously there are a great deal of cultural differences between us - but similarities as well, if you'll notice that we both like Glest!
As far as banking, Jews, and virtual money - I'll just say that I have no problem with Jews any more than Muslims or any other person whether Christian, Taoist, Buddhist, or Canadian (lol, j/k). I definitely do not like virtual money either though. Unfortunately there is little to be done about the current state of affairs as well.
And for Obama, well the "Jews" did not put him in office. Jews in the USA number only 1.7% (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jew#Population_centres) of the total population. The total reported popular vote for the two major candidates adds up to 125,181,481 (http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/results/president/map.html). So even if every single Jewish person voted, they only had about 4.2% of the popular vote. That's less than the difference between the two major candidates. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2008#Nationwide_Results) And as you can see there, Obama only had 52.92 percent of the popular vote. What that means is that, at the time of the election, almost half of the United States did not vote for him to be our President. It's kind of hard to say that anybody just "put him into office" that way.
Say what you like about my USA, but just because we are/have been in Iraq and Afghanistan doesn't make us bad people.

Ok, I'm out for the day. Laters.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 9 October 2009, 14:12:33
Omega take a look at this (http://www.vistawide.com/languages/languages.htm).
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Post by: Omega on 9 October 2009, 19:05:04
I have a crucial problem, and need help ASAP!!! The problem is this: I am currently at a relative's place, and they have high speed cable internet. Yesterday, I unplugged the cable from their computer and plugged it into mine. It connected to the web within seconds. Now today I did the exact same thing and nothing will happen. I am 100% sure no cables are loose. I've triple checked everything, and tried everything I could think of. I admit to having installed COMODO firewall and Avast antivirus during that timespan, though nothing else that should mess with my connection. I can still connect to some wireless internet around me (though my relatives don't have wireless), but the connections seem to break every few minutes.

HELP! I'm only here till sunday, so please, please, please reply fast. Thank you.
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Post by: Omega on 9 October 2009, 19:18:14
Oops, forget it. I fixed it. It seemed to have something to do with defense+ security. I temporarily disabled it. Will have to take a closer look in the future. BACK IN DOWNLOADING!
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Post by: draline on 9 October 2009, 19:24:40
For all of those who say they hate the United states. For all of those who say that america is a bully and who have no place in Iraq or anywhere else.

1. The Taliban aka afgahnistan hit us first. Remember 9/11 they killed over 6,000 of our people unprovoked. We had the right to retaliate.

2. Someone had to remove Saddam Hussein known fact he was supplying terrorist organisations that were hitting the majority of the free world nations. Two he was slaughtering anyone who did not believe how he did.

3.When most nations get into trouble financially or otherwise who do they turn to the United States we have bailed out more nations in the last 60 years then any other nation in the world. England knows this better then anyone. World war I England was getting its tail kicked they be Central Powers . American joined them and kicked butt. World War II Hitler had England on the ropes America and Russia Entered and took care of hitler.

4. The combined total money that nations owe the united states in foreign aid and loans is around 18.4 trillion dollars.This was done over the course of 55 to 57 years. Canada owes the united states 63 billion dollars in loans.

So when you say you hate the united states remember one thing. When your in trouble who bails you out .
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Post by: John.d.h on 9 October 2009, 19:30:29
And don't forget...

Quote from: forbes.com
Americans give more to charity, per capita and as a percentage of gross domestic product, than the citizens of other nations.
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Post by: titi on 9 October 2009, 20:19:24
Maybe the united states once were a nice and free country and maybe they will change back to this one day, but currently ( thanks Mr bush ) for me its a country where I don't want to live. There is too much control of the human population and for me its a paranoid country which always believes it's threatend by terrorists. Its the same kind of thing thats coming up here in germany! Secret services like CIA and others get more and more power and do what they want. The whole public communication with internet/telecommunikation is completly controlled and filtered and some strange power obsessed people get more and more influence ....
Maybe there are terrorists, and maybe there is a real threat, but the damage they may cause is nothing compared to this huge loss of freedom the US currently has. Its the same problem here and its getting more and more worse every day. I hoped that obama would change something here, but it looks like the people in the background get more and more power.
You can't defend freedom by giving up your freedom!

Beside of this the US have a completly uncontrolled banking system that will cause the next crash soonand the politics of the US in general have completly lossed the controll of their economy in my opinion.
  
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Post by: wciow on 9 October 2009, 22:14:02
@ draline

1. Against whom did America retaliate? Was the response of full occupation/war
against two countries proportionate? Please let me know when we capture the terrorist captial city and the last terrorist has put his weapons down.

2. Basically not true.

3. The allies or 'entente' were not being defeated before America joined WW1, the allies would have won anyway, the Americans possibly shortened the war by a few months but the impact of the their joining was far more psychological than military. 

4. I don't really know much about economics but it is a well known fact that America owes more money than it is owed.

@ Titi
Yeah the states is quite scary. Britain is also becoming less free but in a different and subtler way.

Unfortunately I believe we have long since passed the tipping point at which the citizenry can realistically save themselves, sad but true.

This conversation is getting a little depressing, anyone know a good party trick  ;D
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Post by: Omega on 9 October 2009, 23:31:12
My turn. The USA was, and is, an important part of society. Love 'em or hate 'em, you need 'em. Yes, USA has lent out tons of money to other countries and stuff, but it is also about 11 TRILLION dollars in debt (Canada is a mere 450 Billion). I for one, am fully supportive of the afghanistan mission (at least to Canada), but think that the need is not to defeat the Taliban, but to simply reduce it to a managable state for the afghans.

In my opinion, USA's government agencies are some of the worst for its class! I read an article once about how wikipedia invented a program to detect who changes information in wikipedia articles based on the IP so to prevent people from changing information about themselves (idiot politicians) and it turns out that the FBI and CIA were found changing information about the gulf war, etc; Not to mention I can't remember the last time they ever told the world when something went wrong. I mean, lets face it, if the world was going to end tomorrow and only the CIA knew, then the public wouldn't be told.

While the USA's war on Iraq I would consider a necessity, I think it was very poorly executed. Turning to american's minds, they are generally plenty smart, except when it comes to sterio-types. It seems the majority of american's hold by to their sterio-types like mad. Everything from thinking that black people are rapists, to thinking guys with glasses are nerds (BTW: Canada's Brigadier General in Afghan wears glasses), to thinking jocks are dumb, to thinking canadians live in IGLOOS... Americans also tend to be harsh and depersonalizating when it comes to insults.

Looking at america's past, what about slavery? They DID support slavery for a while, and even had to have a damn WAR over it (while Canada remained the true north strong and free by taking in the slaves). On the topic of wars, Wciow is correct for point 3. The americans did create a target on themselves though (pearl harbor) but also caused far too much devastation that should not have occured (ATOMIC BOMBS!).

Wciow is also right about this topic becoming depressing, and perhaps biased. Time to move onto something else. All my party tricks don't work online, but I think I know a good joke...


Bob was in trouble. He forgot his wedding anniversary. His wife was
really pissed.

She told him "Tomorrow morning, I expect to find a gift in the
driveway that goes from 0 to 200 in 6 seconds AND IT BETTER BE THERE !!"

The next morning he got up early and left for work. When his wife woke
up, she looked out the window and sure enough there was a box
gift-wrapped in the middle of the driveway.

Confused, the wife put on her robe and ran out to the driveway, brought
the box back in the house.

She opened it and found a brand new bathroom scale.

Bob has been missing since Friday.


And here's another:
An airline captain was breaking in a new blonde stewardess. The route they were flying had a layover in another city. Upon their arrival, the captain showed the stewardess the best place for airline personnel to eat, shop and stay overnight.

The next morning, as the pilot was preparing the crew for the day's route, he noticed the new stewardess was missing. He knew which room she was in at the hotel and called her up wondering what happened. She answered the phone, crying, and said she couldn't get out of her room. "You can't get out of your room?" the captain asked, "Why not?"

The stewardess replied: "There are only three doors in here," she sobbed, "one is the bathroom, one is the closet, and one has a sign on it that says 'Do Not Disturb'!"


And another:
There was this guy at a bar, just looking at his drink. He stays like that for half of an hour.

Then, this big trouble-making truck driver steps next to him, takes the drink from the guy, and just drinks it all down. The poor man starts crying. The truck driver says, "Come on man, I was just joking. Here, I'll buy you another drink. I just can't stand to see a man cry."

"No, it's not that. This day is the worst of my life. First, I fall asleep, and I go late to my office. My boss, outrageous, fires me. When I leave the building, to my car, I found out it was stolen. The police said that they can do nothing. I get a cab to return home, and when I leave it, I remember I left my wallet and credit cards there. The cab driver just drives away."

"I go home, and when I get there, I find my wife in bed with the gardener. I leave home, and come to this bar. And just when I was thinking about putting an end to my life, you show up and drink my poison."


There. Now no more american discussion (except for 'Dumb American Jokes' [JK!!! JK!!! Please don't hurt me!!!]).
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Post by: titi on 9 October 2009, 23:44:25
So here is something different :)
Anyone tested my imp model for Dark Magic yet?
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Post by: John.d.h on 10 October 2009, 00:13:35
I did.  All the animations looked good, but I still think you're using too many frames.  You can still keep all the keyframes, but if you just scale the animation down to 1/3 or so (that's what I used for the walking animation), it will be a much smaller file and will look exactly the same, because Glest interpolates between the frames the same way Blender does.  Try it if you don't believe me.  Also the imp doesn't really look where he's going when he walks, which seems a bit odd (how does he not bump into things?).  Other than that, it's top-notch stuff.

Enough of this on-topic nonsense for me. ;)

Regarding dropping the bomb on Japan, consider the loss of life on both sides that would have happened if we had NOT dropped it, and had instead launched a land invasion.  Countless American soldiers, Japanese soldiers, and Japanese civilians would have been killed.  I agree it was a horrible act that no country should ever have to do, but I still think it was better than the alternative.

Also, WW1 might have been won without American intervention, but where would France be if we hadn't stepped in during WW2?

@Omega: We Americans may have lots of stereotypes about various groups of people, but it seems you have a pretty harsh stereotype about Americans. :P

We abolished slavery in the 1800s and segregation in the 1960s, whereas South Africa had apartheid until the 1990s and countries like Thailand still have a thriving industry of child prostitution slavery.  It's sad to say it, but in the grand scheme of things, our slavery wasn't all that bad by comparison. :-\
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Post by: titi on 10 October 2009, 00:45:13
sorry ontopic again..

The biggest animation here is 13 frames. I don't think you get good results with less frames. Sometimes you need empty frames just to get a better timing.
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Post by: Hectate on 10 October 2009, 01:43:10
And as far as slavery goes, have you ever wondered how the slaves got to America in the first place?  This section (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery#The_transatlantic_slave_trade) of the wikipedia article is particularly telling, in that the African nations (you know, the kingdoms of Africa that were there before the Europeans) themselves would sell conquered tribes and captured people into slavery to the European merchants - who would take them to European colonies. Profit all around. :P It's only natural that southern land owners - acting exactly how they learned to from European monarchies and feudal tradition (which is where the "civilized" people of America came from) - would act in a "high class" fashion and continue their traditions that they so rightly deserved, in their mind anyway undoubtedly.

Yes, every culture has stereotypes of others. To paraphrase wikipedia, it's about categorization and self-esteem. It doesn't mean that it's true, or even that anyone believes it's true - even on a re-occurring basis. It's just people, being stupid, which seems to be what we do best. I suppose practice makes perfect.
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Post by: draline on 10 October 2009, 05:28:55
That is the truth if people want to blame someone for slavery blame those who sold them, because if something is not for sale. People can not buy it plain and simple. Oh and contrary to what schools teach you . The civil war had nothing to do with slavery. Lincoln after violating and suspending the constitution of the united states. came up with the idea of being against slavery to keep england from siding with the south. Lincoln knew if victory sided with Davis and the south. The North definately would have lost the civil war. Lincoln forgot to tell her that he was a slave owner himself.
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Post by: wciow on 10 October 2009, 09:38:53
The civil war had nothing to do with slavery.

Everyone knows the American Civil War was about who could grow the largest and wackiest beard.
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Post by: draline on 10 October 2009, 16:53:11
The Civil War was fought because The South wanted there Legal and Constitutional right to govern themselves, and Lincoln wanted to suppress their rights plain and simple.
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Post by: Omega on 10 October 2009, 19:12:55
CRAP! Trouble again! My relative's network just isn't working. The cord goes in, but nothing happens. Disabled every firewall, anti virus, etc; Completely closed all processes related to them. Nothing. What gives? Anyone got a clue? I'm not too sure how their internet works. They don't seem to have a router, though there is a black box with four lights (which aren't labeled or anything) with a phone (?) cord running into a walll outlet. There's also the ethernet cord coming from that which was normally plugged into my relative's desktop, but I unplugged it and plugged it into mine.

The network isn't detected then, and nothing happens. Normally when the ethernet cable is plugged into my relative's desktop, there's three lights on the device, but when I plug it into my laptop, there's only two (showing no connection?) and there's no buttons or anything on the device. I'm good with technology, but when it comes to networking, I'm clueless!

I'm only here for ONE MORE DAY and have a few more important downloads to make, so PLEASE, PLEASE HELP!!!
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Post by: titi on 10 October 2009, 23:55:15
no light, no contact. Maybe your network adapter is broken? Or the Cable quality is not good enough for your computer, or the router/switch or whatever you are connected to doesn't like to talk to your network adapter. its really hard to say whats wrong.

Try to use your relatives computer to download everything and connect yours into the localhome network too. If this doesn't work too, use an external drive to copy the data to your computer or burn a rewritable CD/DVD to get the data. Good luck ....
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 11 October 2009, 04:54:14
Yeah, I'm stuck just downloading on their computer. Fortunately I always carry my flash drive with me (even when i won't have computer access). I connected twice before (flawlessly on day 1, but after two hours of random messing around, then an hour of leaving my computer alone on day 2). My network card is fine (I think, really no way to know), the cable must be good, since it works well on my relative's computer, and as I said, it connected before.

Now I regred disconnecting it last night.

BTW: Is there any other methods of downloading the window's vista service packs? I downloaded service pack 1 yesterday (which screwed up my logon and UAC settings) but unless I can connect to the web, dunno how I can do it. Is there any way to download it on another computer and bring it into mine (EXE style?). Also, maybe I should update my network drivers. Except I can't connect. Ugh...

Anyone got any better idea of what went wrong?!? Google reveals that "works day one, doesn't day two" scenario's are rather common, but they usually have software from their ISP or something that helps (and of course, often end up buying something too).
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Hectate on 11 October 2009, 05:11:31
A common issue is the IP lease. Try to release and renew on the new computer. I believe the "repair" option does this as well.

A second thought is that many routers have 5 female ethernet (RJ-45) slots, but you can't actually use all 5 at the same time. Usually one is the Uplink port (connects to broadband modem). Additionally, if you DO use the uplink port than the port directly adjacent to it will not work - the internal circuitry will prevent that. 4 max ethernet connections, even if one is your modem. Pay attention to the port it is in if you're regularly changing it physically.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 11 October 2009, 07:09:13
IP leasing? What? As I said, no experience with networking, so you'll have to be a tad more descriptive I'm afraid...
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Hectate on 11 October 2009, 13:05:52
Sorry I thought you knew Mr. Google :)

Imagine that you and your neighbor both have the same address and name. What's the mailman going to do with your mail?

Routers are like the mailman and they need an address for your computer. Routers set for DHCP (an automatic assignment method) will "lease" an IP to a computer (to the network adapter, technically, a computer could have more than one) for a specific period of time - a few days usually.
Since the IP is rented out, the router won't give it to another computer either. It seems obvious, but it's important. If the router runs out of IP addresses to give, your computer will not get "mail" due to the lack of an address.

The release command forces the network adapter to give up its address. The renew command makes it ask the router for a new IP address. If it's set up as a DHCP server, it'll assign a new, available one. They're done in that order just to ensure a fresh IP.

It's possible that all your computer swapping has caused one (the one with issues) to have an expired IP lease. The router only RESPONDS to DHCP requests, and the computer only sends them occasionally.

If this seems possible as the problem, google instructions for an network adapter's release and renew on your OS. Good luck
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Mark on 13 October 2009, 01:39:09
@John.d.h.: I just followed your links to your sites.  Congrats on getting your online businesses running! 
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Post by: John.d.h on 13 October 2009, 01:56:35
I went ahead and put links to my personal retail site in my signature, and I just wanted to give a "heads up" so everybody knows I haven't been hacked by a spam bot or anything. ;)

Check it out if you're interested in improving your nutrition, health, and/or appearance.  All products on the site come with a money-back satisfaction guarantee, and free shipping on large orders.

The categories are as follows:

If any moderators have a problem with this post or with the signature, just let me know and I'll remove them.

@John.d.h.: I just followed your links to your sites.  Congrats on getting your online businesses running! 
Thanks! :)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 13 October 2009, 10:58:42
Well, my Dad takes two sets of Vitamins a day, if you're cheaper than where he currently buys them maybe he'll buy from you. But don't count on it.

EDIT: Just looked at the first site, I recommend menus that allow you to select what order you see the products.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 13 October 2009, 11:48:33
I wish I could.  Unfortunately, the company gives me very few options of how to customize the site.  Basically I can only pick which product categories to have and choose between a couple different graphics, but it's free so I can't really complain.  I've been learning XHTML and CSS in one of my classes, so I would definitely make some alterations if it would let me, but it doesn't seem like there's a way to do it.  Eventually I might look into a site that gives me more freedom to do my own markup, like 110mb, but I've just got too many obligations right now.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 13 October 2009, 16:48:14
A Totally Random Post:

You guys remember that 'Canadian Discussion' a little while back. Well, I realized I forgot the most important plus about Canada: We have the hotest girls in the world. Beat that.

On another note, I downloaded way to much software I think while at my relatives. Some of... questionable legality...  ;) However, the one that kept throwing my BSoD's was the andLinux program. Damn, I was hoping to try that. Oh well. Was a pain in the ass to get rid of. Must of reboot a dozen times trying to find out what went wrong (thank god for safe mode).
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 13 October 2009, 18:33:50
Post some pictures of these girls....... ;D
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: modman on 13 October 2009, 22:32:39
We have the hottest girls in the world. Beat that.

Easy to say when you're drunk. :P
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: dannylee on 14 October 2009, 22:59:49
well, this is off topic right, well than here is something really off topic: HI ::)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: modman on 15 October 2009, 00:27:04
Off topic is for when you have something to say, OK?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Mark on 15 October 2009, 01:00:51
We have the hotest girls in the world. Beat that.
You may have the hotest girls, but there is no way you have the hottest girls.  Ever wonder why all the international models are american or european?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Hectate on 15 October 2009, 22:30:47
We have the hotest girls in the world. Beat that.
You may have the hotest girls, but there is no way you have the hottest girls.  Ever wonder why all the international models are american or european?
I dunno, I suspect there are quite a few supermodels that hail from Southern America (think Brazilian, for example).

You also have to remember that each culture prefers their own brand, as it were. You're less likely to notice a model from, say, Japan than one from Europe. Primarily because European culture is closer to American culture than Japanese.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Mark on 16 October 2009, 02:12:04
Yeah, but still.  How many canadian models do you know of?

We have the hotest girls in the world. Beat that.
You may have the hotest girls, but there is no way you have the hottest girls.  Ever wonder why all the international models are american or european?
I dunno, I suspect there are quite a few supermodels that hail from Southern America (think Brazilian, for example).
True, but Southern America isn't canada.   :P

Does anybody have this pet peeve?
It is when someone posts a download and doesn't give a description or a picture?  I really wish people would post that stuff.

Edit:  I have thought about this for a while, and I think the reason why glest runs slow with only 30 units onscreen, is because glest has to smooth the frames between the animation frames.  I mean, the textures are small, the models low poly, the tileset low poly, small amounts of units, and not even a lot of computations going on as compared to other games.  What do you think?  And has anyone else ever thought of that?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: hailstone on 16 October 2009, 09:18:23
I don't think animation would be a problem since interpolation can be done fairly efficiently with maths ??? Also Silnarm made a topic about improving rendering and didn't mention it. https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=4628.0 But we won't really know unless it is tested.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 16 October 2009, 12:23:15
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Does anybody have this pet peeve?
It is when someone posts a download and doesn't give a description or a picture?  I really wish people would post that stuff.
I do. Even though I don't post that myself. I always try to have a good description though.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Mark on 17 October 2009, 02:51:30
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Does anybody have this pet peeve?
It is when someone posts a download and doesn't give a description or a picture?  I really wish people would post that stuff.
I do. Even though I don't post that myself. I always try to have a good description though.
Well, I guess that is true because Omega no longer supplies us with his infinite writing proficiency.  Then again, he really isn't on the forums now.

I don't think animation would be a problem since interpolation can be done fairly efficiently with maths ??? Also Silnarm made a topic about improving rendering and didn't mention it. https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=4628.0 But we won't really know unless it is tested.
Thank you for the information, because my idea is just a idea I had come by in my head.  I might have seen that thread, but I really cannot sort through all that code in GAE fast enough to get everything.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 18 October 2009, 00:21:07
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Does anybody have this pet peeve?
It is when someone posts a download and doesn't give a description or a picture?  I really wish people would post that stuff.

You don't remember me saying 'DESCRIPTION' at the top of my lungs? Or at least the top of my fingers...

And who says I'm 'not really on the forums now'?!? I just am more limited during school season. As you could tell, I do a LOT of stuff, so never have any free time. As a result, only get online every now and then. However, I almost always visit the Glest Board when online (except when at school with a teacher over my shoulder...).

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Omega no longer supplies us with his infinite writing proficiency.
What do you mean?

By the hottest (without the danged typo that changes everything), I mean in general. I am NOT a supermodel fan. Personally, I prefer the 'tomgirl' types, who worry about things other than 'is my makeup straight?'. I prefer girls that are beautiful, but compared to personalities and who they really are, beauty is really nothing. Just a little extra! ;) But honestly, for an average girl in my school, they do get quite 'hot', and you can quote me on that one!

And let's not forget pamela anderson, Canada's centenial baby!
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 18 October 2009, 00:50:36
Man, all the girls at WJHS(where I used to go to school) are either ugly/fat and mean, ugly/fat and nice, hot and mean, or hot and not mean but not nice.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Mark on 18 October 2009, 01:42:47
And who says I'm 'not really on the forums now'?!?
I do.  You only seem to be posting on your Glest Guide topic.  Like it or not, you aren't really on the forums anymore.  

You don't remember me saying 'DESCRIPTION' at the top of my lungs? Or at least the top of my fingers...
Umm, well when I say...
Well, I guess that is true because Omega no longer supplies us with his infinite writing proficiency.  
...I mean that you are no longer posting your menacing threats about mean things occurring.

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Omega no longer supplies us with his infinite writing proficiency.
What do you mean?
Uh, well again, I mean that you no longer post those terrible warnings.

Edit:  dannylee won the quote competition.  The quote was by Frank A. Clark. The new quote is: "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction.".  Do you know who said that anyone?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: dannylee on 18 October 2009, 18:29:52
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Off topic is for when you have something to say, OK?

I had something to say ok? it was hi? i am trying to be nice and you are so mean, i don't like you anymore.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: dannylee on 18 October 2009, 18:32:31
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Edit:  dannylee won the quote competition.  The quote was by Frank A. Clark. The new quote is: "Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction.".  Do you know who said that anyone?

Yuhuu, thank you google, thank you......... AH i mean thank you my brain, thank you............ i would never use google to find that kind of answer  ::)
lol
thanks mark
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Mark on 19 October 2009, 00:15:08
Well, I know you can do that, but still.  I wish people wouldn't.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: modman on 19 October 2009, 00:54:02
Albert Einstein is the author of your current quote, Mark.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: titi on 19 October 2009, 11:52:22
I found this :)

http://www.turbosquid.com/Search/Artists/tucho?referral=tucho
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 19 October 2009, 13:44:57
Wow, a few really good looking models there.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: titi on 19 October 2009, 14:14:57
maybe, but what I wanted to show is that they sell something thats available for free :) .
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 19 October 2009, 23:16:05
I'm definately still active, but as more and more people post in the Mods board, and I fall behind, it becomes harder for me. I post more on smaller posts and always return emails and PMs.

Besides, topics with lots of pictures are slow to load, and lots of mods have that. Finally, as I said before, I have lots of school, etc; While I wait for Daniel to give me the green light for FPM, I've been mostly working on the Glest Guide and learning some more C++. I now properly understand classes. Thank you ebooks!
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: dannylee on 20 October 2009, 00:31:05
that is ridicules (or however you englishmen spell or say it), they sell the models you guys (i don't know who, but somebody from glest, titi or someone) made for a lot of money, don't you have copyright on it? sue them, they didn't say it comes from you (the creators) they didn't say where it comes from, from who, and they charge 50$! if you guys put that under copyright, and nobody gave permission to them to sell it, than you can sue their A**es of (sry for my english, but this makes me really mad). I mean, thats the biggest crap i have ever seen, guys, you should sue them, you have every right, and if you are lucky, you might even make a lot of money by suing them, go for it guys, go for it, i would  be more than happy to act as a witness or something, even if  it means for me to leave canada and fly to states (i am serious)   
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Mark on 20 October 2009, 01:47:12
that is ridicules (or however you englishmen spell or say it), they sell the models you guys (i don't know who, but somebody from glest, titi or someone) made for a lot of money, don't you have copyright on it? sue them, they didn't say it comes from you (the creators) they didn't say where it comes from, from who, and they charge 50$! if you guys put that under copyright, and nobody gave permission to them to sell it, than you can sue their A**es of (sry for my english, but this makes me really mad). I mean, thats the biggest crap i have ever seen, guys, you should sue them, you have every right, and if you are lucky, you might even make a lot of money by suing them, go for it guys, go for it, i would  be more than happy to act as a witness or something, even if  it means for me to leave canada and fly to states (i am serious)   
Oh, gosh, well I don't think we can sue him.  Besides, be made the models, and I am too grateful to actually care, really, even if he is illegally selling the stuff.  Those files are not actual glest files, they are his .max files.  As far as I know, he does what he wants.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 20 October 2009, 03:31:16
You see at the top of the page where it says "3d Products by Tucho"?  Tucho is the artist who made the original Glest models.  He's the one selling them on TurboSquid (if I'm understanding things correctly).  They're his work and he has every right to make money from it.  However, he's also kept them available for us to use for free.  Presumably he's selling them under a different license, so that people who want to use his models in commercial games don't have to abide by the GPL, but anybody who wants them for free has to keep it open-source.  That sounds like a great arrangement to me.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: dannylee on 20 October 2009, 06:35:18
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You see at the top of the page where it says "3d Products by Tucho"?  Tucho is the artist who made the original Glest models.  He's the one selling them on TurboSquid (if I'm understanding things correctly).  They're his work and he has every right to make money from it.  However, he's also kept them available for us to use for free.  Presumably he's selling them under a different license, so that people who want to use his models in commercial games don't have to abide by the GPL, but anybody who wants them for free has to keep it open-source.  That sounds like a great arrangement to me.
oh ok sry, I thought he was stealing them, I thought that titi or someone from gae team made them.
Sorry, me and my big mouth.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Mark on 21 October 2009, 01:07:43
You see at the top of the page where it says "3d Products by Tucho"?  Tucho is the artist who made the original Glest models.  He's the one selling them on TurboSquid (if I'm understanding things correctly).  They're his work and he has every right to make money from it.  However, he's also kept them available for us to use for free.  Presumably he's selling them under a different license, so that people who want to use his models in commercial games don't have to abide by the GPL, but anybody who wants them for free has to keep it open-source.  That sounds like a great arrangement to me.
Yes, I knew he was the texture artist, but I really can't imagine myself liking another game using glest's models.  But he can do what he wants with the models, they are his.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 26 October 2009, 04:34:17
Sorry I've been away a bit guys... I've been having some major computer troubles recently and still haven't fixed it. Odd, isn't it? Microsoft releases Windows 7 and on the same day my Vista starts acting up. All the more reason for me to ask for Windows 7 for christmas. So, if any of you can figure our what's wrong, you'll save me the trouble of figgin' re-installing vista (something I'm afraid to do. I have bad past experiences with reinstalling OSes). So I notice a few things off the bat: all 3rd party programs work 100% fine, as does all hardware. Drivers work fine, but the ATI Catalyst Control Center doesn't, though the driver works (whew, otherwise I'd be looking at a 1024x768 generic screen). Sound doesn't work at all. Hovering over the volume in the tool panel says that the audio service is not running. Many windows functions give me the error that not enough storage is available to complete the operation. Microsoft says this error is because the registry's size has been exceeded, which I admit would make sense for most of my troubles, but the only help I can find is for older OS's, namely pre windows 2000.

I'm not running many programs at all. In fact, at the time, just the bare minimum, and I am using 20% of my 2 GB of real RAM, and 15% of my 7 GB of virtual RAM. I noticed that the windows performance index is missing from the system screen, though I was able to access it direct. Tried increasing the size of the paging file to the max, without success. Just googling for help now... I have to DJ a junior dance at my school on the friday before halloween (THIS FRIDAY!!!) so this just won't do! Worst case scenario I can copy all my music onto the schools (sucky) computers and install a program to play them (fortunately I have a local login there). However, that would kinda suck, and would be slow to move files, since I have some 10 GB of music on my laptop, so using three DVD's seems like a waste, and I have no external HD.

If I end up having to reinstall vista, how should I do it? Also, I want to backup ALL of my files EXACTLY as they were, but that seems so tedious to do on DVDs, and I don't have any dual layer to burn (and even then I'd need a lot). My dad has an old computer we don't use anymore that has a big enough HDD installed to hold all my files. Is there any way to move my files to another HDD?

Thanks. I will definately be getting Windows 7, and will definately be using a clean install. I mean, I've had more computer troubles this year than ever before. Of course, while vista is pretty bad right now, I still stand by windows. 7 sounds nice, and linux definately has its downtimes. Just look at glest.110mb.com or glest.codemonger.org. They are linux hosted and have a kinda nasty downtime...
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 26 October 2009, 04:36:39
What the hell is going on here?:

My Dad's computer just went berserk, it's completely unuseable. And Karmic Koala comes out Thursday, and my Dad can't gewt our files off the mess up computer.
Too bad the screwed up one is our main computer.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Kung Fu Panda on 27 October 2009, 16:34:07
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Thus why I hate Saudi Arabia. I support freedom, and thus I'll take this one step further...
its frm the glest story creator topic but i have a long answer and i dont wish to interrupt...
Omega tell me the things u think are 'enslaving' the women or men and i shall be more than happy to answer them
I'll start off with the most common one..
 A law states that a woman should cover her whole body - except her face and her hands up to the wrist, in a non see-through cloth that is not too tight as to reveal her body outline

Lemme ask u a question. Suppose there are 2 twins - each equal to the other in beauty except for the fact that one is wearing the clothing mentioned above and the other wearing the western clothing - mini skurts, tight shirt, etc and there is a hooligan jus around the corner waitin for a catch, which one would he choose?
but naturally, he would choose the woman with the western clothing! its human nature! and u say protecting woman's rights is the opposite of freedom? so i would guess the way the western women dress up showing many parts of their body and showing it as a fashion is liberating??? what are we doing here??
I can give a very detailed answer if u give the exact things the western media ( largely the American media ) has made u believe - this isnt only for u- its for all those who think like u...
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Maybe the united states once were a nice and free country and maybe they will change back to this one day, but currently ( thanks Mr bush ) for me its a country where I don't want to live. There is too much control of the human population and for me its a paranoid country which always believes it's threatend by terrorists. Its the same kind of thing thats coming up here in germany! Secret services like CIA and others get more and more power and do what they want. The whole public communication with internet/telecommunikation is completly controlled and filtered and some strange power obsessed people get more and more influence ....
Maybe there are terrorists, and maybe there is a real threat, but the damage they may cause is nothing compared to this huge loss of freedom the US currently has. Its the same problem here and its getting more and more worse every day. I hoped that obama would change something here, but it looks like the people in the background get more and more power.
You can't defend freedom by giving up your freedom!

Beside of this the US have a completly uncontrolled banking system that will cause the next crash soonand the politics of the US in general have completly lossed the controll of their economy in my opinion.
I love u Titi!  :)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 27 October 2009, 17:28:14
Actually it is you who do not think like us.
Protecting womens rights(kung's opinion): Forcing them to where clothes whether they want to or not, even on extremely hot days.

I think: It's fine if women go around with "western clothes", it's there choice if they don't mind men enjoying them, I consider violating a womans rights to be rape, or sexual harassment, or something else no one should ever do.

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its for all those who think like u...

Really is there something wrong with having nice looking women around in shorts and tanktops.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 27 October 2009, 20:14:06
I think the issue here is not the clothing itself, but rather that it is being forced.  I'm not saying it's wrong or right.  It's not really my issue to judge.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Mark on 28 October 2009, 02:50:24
I think the issue here is not the clothing itself, but rather that it is being forced.  I'm not saying it's wrong or right.  It's not really my issue to judge.
Absolutely.  You must understand that in a country founded right out of a fight for more, just rights, it is nearly impossible to look at a restrictive religious laws in parts of the world that are not considered great allies and think 'Nice!".  People care that women are forced to wear body-hiding clothes.  The idea of women wearing it in my opinion is perfectly fine, just mandating its wear is completely ridiculous. 

Lemme ask u a question. Suppose there are 2 twins - each equal to the other in beauty except for the fact that one is wearing the clothing mentioned above and the other wearing the western clothing - mini skurts, tight shirt, etc and there is a hooligan jus around the corner waitin for a catch, which one would he choose?
Where did you hear that?  I suspect your Muslim PROPAGANDA!  I can deduce that you haven't visited the US in a long time if you think that is a common enough occurence for a law.  People don't just sit around in cars looking for girls in pantyhose' and miniskirts to snatch.   :P

I can give a very detailed answer if u give the exact things the western media ( largely the American media ) has made u believe - this isnt only for u- its for all those who think like u...
Well, extreme law such as yours is not often mentioned, just when Sarkozy tried to ban bhurkas in pools...  But what I believe is that it is a largely benevolent law that seems normal to you, but not to people who's ancestors died by the thousands to get those rights.

and u say protecting woman's rights is the opposite of freedom? so i would guess the way the western women dress up showing many parts of their body and showing it as a fashion is liberating??? what are we doing here??
I can give a very detailed answer if u give the exact things the western media ( largely the American media ) has made u believe - this isnt only for u- its for all those who think like u...
Uh, it is not a right (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/right) that you can't wear certain clothing, it is a law (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/law).  Try taking a look at our 'propaganda' (dictionary.com) and tell me what you want to correct in that statement.  But you make a strong point, that women should not wear those clothes.  I don't know how widespread this belief is, but some things need to be changed in society rather than in the laws and regulations.  If society could be changed to look down upon mini skirts we may have less teenage pregnancy among other things.  If a law were passed like yours, there would be defiance, veto efforts and (oh, I forgot, it is unconstitutional in america).  A law only works where the people are united under a factor such as religion, creed, previous law system, etc that favors/doesn't have a problem with that law.  In this case, Saudi Arabia is a good place for it as far as how popular it would be, but not the US where the above factors are so varied and likely to change quickly (because we allow it in america, in saudi arabia you have to say you are a muslim, according to every tv and paper news source I have read.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 28 October 2009, 18:42:11
I fully support the ability for women to choose what they want to wear themselves, not having MEN choose it for them. Why don't you just let the women decide? Some might want to wear the same old robes, but at least give them a CHOICE of what they wish to wear. If they want to wear a bikini top, so be it. If they want to wear a sweater, let them. if they want to wear JEANS (best piece of clothes ever), don't try and stop them.

And BTW, mark is right on basically everything he said in that last post.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 28 October 2009, 19:43:42
Yeah, I agree.
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Post by: Mark on 29 October 2009, 01:53:46
I wish that I had been exposed to more of foreign culture by my parents...  The good thing is that most of us understand that he was brought up believing that most likely.  I mean, I was brought up to believe that people should fight for their rights, but I am just now beginning to understand how these world religions and laws can really indoctrinate citizens from an elitist's point of view.  For example, people in North Korea are taught to despise westerners, especially americans.  This is used as a rallying point that can, in all honesty, make a very strong nation.  The problem with those kinds of places is that they seem to be EXTREMELY allied with their ideals, either because they have been raised that way, they fear speaking against it (ahem.. china with greendam, Iran with their policies, North Korea (oh, I forgot, the average citizen is too poor for internet or media devices), and others), or a combination of indoctrination/peer pressure and fear.  I know many americans don't understand how countries like S.A. work, but at least we are allowed to get our own opinion on it.  That is more than what some can say.    I am really not proud of America and our whole foreign policy mess, including our bad reputation with europe, (cough, cough, bush, cough), but I know how much some people seem to take our liberties for granted.

Edit:  I am ending my quote competition for 2 reasons:  One, I am unable to discern when people are cheating, so I feel people who actually know the quote are getting ripped off.  Two, I don't have enough space on my signature and other personal box to hold everything I want.  So if no one objects, I will reveal who won and will end it tomorrow.  Sounds good?

Edit again:  Last winner was dannylee, now a guest.  The maker of the quote was Albert Einstein.  The quote competition is now officially gone.  :)
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Post by: Kung Fu Panda on 30 October 2009, 16:08:28
choice is based on what u see
the women in Saudi Arabia dont feel oppressed of what they wear. In fact, they feel that the clothes in  countries like the US women are ridiculous [no offense(guys im not makin any enemyship here i apologize for my harshness)]
in hot days , there are many different types of bhurkas that dont make u feel warm. AND when u see a women (or i shud say 'girl') u feel like sayin 'nice clothes' its not a very nice thing to say here. In fact u feel like lookin down as if to respect them. Well one's choices and opinions are up to himself and i cant change urs nor can u change mine. Plus its only told to cover ur body except the face and hands up to the wrists. So there isnt anything 'oppressive'.
well these are CORRECT statistics............................

USA has one of the largest crime rates in the world...
on the other hand, Saudi Arabia has one the lowest.
If u put the islamic law in US, there may be protests, all those as people are not used to it but what im asking is will the crime rate go up or be same or go down?

I think some (or a little more than 'some') dont understand my argument on the 1st post correctly and so i cant say anything. so .. I want to close this after everyone says what he wants to say after this post
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Post by: -Archmage- on 30 October 2009, 16:25:07
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USA has one of the largest crime rates in the world...
on the other hand, Saudi Arabia has one the lowest.

1- USA is a large country.
2- We have a large population.
So overall it's natural that the USA would have a higher crime rate.

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If u put the islamic law in US, there may be protests, all those as people are not used to it but what im asking is will the crime rate go up or be same or go down?
I'm pretty sure that wouldn't pass in any state of America, and even if it did the people would feel oppressed, and group together to fight back, the crime rate could easily go skyhigh! Although I don't know very much at all about Islamic law so.........yah just from what I hear about Islamic law, it sounds awfully grim compared to Americas laws.

You know you should take a trip to America some time.
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Post by: ElimiNator on 30 October 2009, 18:09:16
America I am afraid is going down, deep down the tubes.

Canada on the other hand is not near as as far down the tubes, not only that they are slowly climbing out, but America is free falling.

The laws aren't that different so come to Canada instead.

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Post by: -Archmage- on 30 October 2009, 18:39:35
Well before Obama was elected the country was sliding slowly.......
But now, yes it's free-falling.
America will eventually recover, and hopefully so will the rest of the world.......
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Post by: ElimiNator on 30 October 2009, 20:23:31
America will eventually recover.
It said on slashdot that America can never pay off its debt.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 30 October 2009, 20:25:36
Oh I forgot about that, otherwise than that America will recover...........well actually no it's going to freefall forever..........
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Post by: ElimiNator on 30 October 2009, 20:34:29
Yes but there is hope One of my spys heard Obama and his officers talking about the new world order and U.S.C.A.
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Post by: John.d.h on 30 October 2009, 20:48:24
Well, suffice it to say that no country or empire has been the leading world power uninterrupted for more than a century since probably the Roman Empire.  The Dutch had their century, the Spanish had theirs, the British, etc.  Not to be arrogant or anything, but the USA has been the most powerful nation in the world for the past century or so.  The US has become stagnant, our economy is bankrupt, and our education system and scientific advances are not keeping up with countries like China and India, which are making forward leaps in biotechnology and computer science all the time.  Sad to say it, but our century is over. :-\
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Post by: -Archmage- on 30 October 2009, 21:03:53
We still are the world power, at least militarily, but probably not for much longer.
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Post by: modman on 30 October 2009, 23:55:16
If u put the islamic law in US, there may be protests, all those as people are not used to it but what im asking is will the crime rate go up or be same or go down?

Unfortunately for anyone in favor of that we have something called the First Amendment of the Bill of Rights.

Maybe the crime rate would go down.  There's plenty of ways to make crime rates go down.  I'm Libertarian, but if there were no laws, it would be a 0% crime rate.

What I would be more interested in is the quality of life.  We could have Hammurabi laws here in the US, but is that reasonable, and does it make our lives better?  Face it, Islamic law is old, and standards change.  There are no longer as serious of repercussions from small accidents.  The world is not up for grabs anymore because it is made up of sovereign nations.

Quote from: American Thinker | http://www.americanthinker.com/2005/08/top_ten_reasons_why_sharia_is.html
The nightmare must end. Sharia oppresses the citizens of Islamic countries. Islam must reform, but the legal hierarchy in Islamic nations will not do this because the judges and legal scholars understand the cost: many passages in the Quran and the hadith must be rejected, and this they cannot do. After all, the Quran came down directly from Allah through Gabriel, so says traditional theology. So how can Islam reform? But reform it must. It can start by rewriting classical fiqh (interpretations of law). Again, though, that would mean leaving behind the Quran and Muhammad's example. How can the legal hierarchy in Islamic nations do this...It is true that the Enlightenment teaches tolerance, but it also teaches critical thinking and reasoning. Sharia cannot stand up under scrutiny. It is intolerant and excessive, and Aristotle in his Nicomachean Ethics teaches the West that excess is never just.

I try my best to stand up to fundamentalists in a civil manner through debate and rhetoric.  The purist form of debate is that without bias and absent of dogma, and so a conclusion can be reached after presenting and considering all evidence, factual or philosophical.

I would recommend going to http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/index.php (http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/index.php), which is a website for fair debate of all religion, including Islam.  Although, I have to warn you, Islam does not fare even as well as Christianity there, because it has no internal pressures to make up answers to the tough questions.  You'll understand if you go there.

One of my spys heard Obama and his officers talking about the new world order and U.S.C.A.

Yes, sigh, in direct violation of the Logan Act, Obama attends Bilderberg meetings.  But that would not bring me hope.  You can look into all of the NWO stuff yourself, but I'll point you to FEMA coffins (http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/9513/coffins3xg9.jpg).
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Post by: Mark on 31 October 2009, 01:31:19
1- USA is a large country.
2- We have a large population.
So overall it's natural that the USA would have a higher crime rate.
I think what he means is that there are more acts of lawbreaking commited in a ratio to citizens.  If you take a look at this (http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/countries-with-highest-reported-crime-rates.html), which may be have been outdated since 2008-09, not even mentioning the stricter laws that may exist in those countries whereas in america the same thing might be a misdemeanor or warning, but America is not in the top ten.  But arch, what you might be saying (I really don't know, I am trying to keep an open mind in order to have the most intellectual discussion), is that america has a complicated system of law enforcement because we are a country of 300 million people.  From this map that I have yet to ratify as being one of good source, canada is either a more criminal country or it has strict laws.  I would LOVE to look into that.  Jeez, isn't that so interesting?

Well, suffice it to say that no country or empire has been the leading world power uninterrupted for more than a century since probably the Roman Empire.  The Dutch had their century, the Spanish had theirs, the British, etc.  Not to be arrogant or anything, but the USA has been the most powerful nation in the world for the past century or so.  The US has become stagnant, our economy is bankrupt, and our education system and scientific advances are not keeping up with countries like China and India, which are making forward leaps in biotechnology and computer science all the time.  Sad to say it, but our century is over. :-\
We really were not too dominant until after WWII when the competition had been ravaged of population, crops and structures, (i.e. Britain, France, Germany and USSR were competitor but they got some-shall we say minor- damage, which put them down low for a couple decades), and we were booming in industry here in the good old US of A.  And we really only got 65 years of it, because around the turn of the century the whole problem of jobs going to India and China came around with a vengeance even the seemingly 'unstoppable' american economy couldn't handle, and then plop, the housing bubble goes bye bye and with it the entire western world's economy.  I anticipate it being about even, and then fate might put India and China battling it out for economic power.  This may or may not happen, but it is well recognized that this will start to happen very soon if america doesn't overhaul our education system which is falling behind globally.  Ponder this:  India has more honors kids than america has kids.  This is sad, but americans can only blame themselves.

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Post by: -Archmage- on 31 October 2009, 03:21:50
One of main reasons I wanted to be homeschooled was to get away from mean teachers, and them forcing me to do this ridiculous stuff, and also not caring whether it was a waste of time of not, I also found that they were pretty stupid and very very arrogant which drove me up the wall sometimes.
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Post by: ElimiNator on 31 October 2009, 04:11:40
First of all what dose FEMA coffins have to do with the new world order and U.S.C.A.?
Allso I am home schooled have been all my life, so I don't know much about mean teachers.  :)
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Post by: -Archmage- on 31 October 2009, 04:48:52
Moving on to the issue of: Global Warming

I do not believe in the Global Warming lie.
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Post by: John.d.h on 31 October 2009, 05:31:43
You gonna elaborate on that, or is that all?
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Post by: ElimiNator on 31 October 2009, 05:41:46
Its to bad a boy like him believes in Global Warming they are brain washing you.
Any way they saw that Global Warming was not happening so the name is changed to climate change, and the climate will always differ.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 31 October 2009, 05:50:05
The upcoming Ice Age will elaborate plenty.......

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Its to bad a boy like him believes in Global Warming they are brain washing you.
Any way they saw that Global Warming was not happening so the name is changed to climate change, and the climate will always differ.

Are you talking to me? You can't be.......
And John is grown up.
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Post by: ElimiNator on 31 October 2009, 07:14:54
Are you talking to me? You can't be.......
Why I can't.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 31 October 2009, 14:57:21
Why would you be saying that:
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Its to bad a boy like him believes in Global Warming they are brain washing you.
Any way they saw that Global Warming was not happening so the name is changed to climate change, and the climate will always differ.
to me?
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Post by: modman on 31 October 2009, 15:00:35
Guillotines in America (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujX8evzRXN0)

This is why there are FEMA coffins.

Moving on to the issue of: Global Warming

I do not believe in the Global Warming lie.
Usually when initiating an intellectual discussion, you present your argument for your reasoning for your beliefs.

Now, I take Amtrak back to Milwaukee :).
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Post by: Trappin on 31 October 2009, 23:52:05
Global warming and the hockey stick graph. How the peer review process was subverted.

http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2008/8/11/caspar-and-the-jesus-paper.html

If weather measuring instrumentation is improperly sited or hasn't been calibrated in months nor maintained properly then the data is compromised. Amateur weather hobbyists and some professional have conducted a photographic survey cataloging USHCN networks in the US. 1003 of 1221 or 82% of the stations have been examined. read up on this - its very interesting.

http://www.surfacestations.org/  

surface station.org blog and comment site. Hardcore mathematics but sometimes its very lighthearted as well.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/
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Post by: Omega on 1 November 2009, 21:46:32
Canada has more honor kids than USA and India put together. Of course, our education system is easier... But we actually PAY the teachers well. From what I hear, some other countries don't pay the teachers very well. In fact, on that subject, I want to be a teacher. The pay is good (~55K), the hours are perfect, summers and holidays are free, it leaves plenty of room for personalization (you can generally choose how you want to teach the courses, and here in canada, teachers are usually just given a broad list of topics that need to be taught. Others can be added in, and how they are taught varies per teacher), as well as it would give you an opportunity to make sure your kids can't hide anything from you!  ;)

And now to the global warming topic, I fully believe there is NO SUCH THING! :D Here in Saskatchewan, we have global COLDING. The last two years have been the coldest in a while. Our summer wasn't very hot, and it snowed early. It's freezing today, and my balls froze off at yesterday's quarter final football game (too bad, we lost. We just made it to the provincials, and bam!). I believe that the earth is always changing, sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worst. They say that the earth once had an ice age, and before that the earth was once burning hot. According to science, the earth was even one large landmass billions of years ago. If science is right, perhaps global warming is just naturally changing, just like the earth. If science is wrong, then there's no evidence of true global warming. Maybe it's regional specific, in which case it's not global warming, but regional warming!  ;D

Of course, that's all in my humble opinion. No one has to believe what I say, but if any of you do, you'll be feeding my conquest for world domination! ;)
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Post by: John.d.h on 1 November 2009, 23:19:36
The way I see it, it doesn't even matter if global warming, global climate change, global climate destabilization, or global climate clusterf**k (whatever you want to call it) is actually going on or not.  Any way you look at it, reducing reliance of fossil fuels is a worthwhile goal.


Oh, and just for the record, it was 85 degrees here today (29 Celsius) and it's the beginning of November. :P
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Post by: -Archmage- on 2 November 2009, 00:34:28
Well, we have an ice age coming in the near future.
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Post by: ElimiNator on 2 November 2009, 02:17:11
NO an age of fire.
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Post by: Trappin on 2 November 2009, 02:44:39
we actually PAY the teachers well. From what I hear, some other countries don't pay the teachers very well. In fact, on that subject, I want to be a teacher. The pay is good (~55K), the hours are perfect, summers and holidays are free

Tenured upper tier K-12 teachers in California - dependent upon school district - may earn close to 100k per year. Upper tier = 15/20+ years.

http://pajamasmedia.com/richardfernandez/2009/11/01/bows-and-flows/#more-6569

Give up Truth and you succumb to any or all of some very bad alternatives: superstition, confusion, fraud, or malignant skepticism.

Give up Truth and logic and you can no longer agree on the facts, or even on what is a fact. It was bad enough when this was confined to aesthetics (is Shakespeare better than Snoop Dog?). It got worse with multiculturalism (are Western values of individual dignity and freedom better than female clitorectomy or burning widows?). It has spread into science itself. Perhaps others are right to wonder if mathematics itself is about to become deconstructed.

Truth, with a capital T, acknowledgment of cause and effect, and personal responsibility (autoplastic) are linked together. I rarely see an individual who accepts personal responsibility and the concept of autoplastic change disbelieving the law of cause and effect and doubting that somewhere out there Truth exists for us to search out.

Aristotle on Non-contradiction ( also helps with logic)

Aristotle says that without the principle of non-contradiction we could not know anything that we do know. Presumably, we could not demarcate the subject matter of any of the special sciences, for example, biology or mathematics, and we would not be able to distinguish between what something is, for example a human being or a rabbit, and what it is like, for example pale or white. Aristotle's own distinction between essence and accident would be impossible to draw, and the inability to draw distinctions in general would make rational discussion impossible. According to Aristotle, the principle of non-contradiction is a principle of scientific inquiry, reasoning and communication that we cannot do without.

That looks like a tiger.

"But how do I know it’s a tiger?
How can I be certain that what appears to be there is really there?
How can I be certain that such a thing as tigers exist?
What is the essence of tiger?
Is it even possible to know that I could ever know what is the essence of anything?”


Now go read this link and the hockey stick subverted link.
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Post by: Omega on 2 November 2009, 04:03:35
Tenured upper tier K-12 teachers in California - dependent upon school district - may earn close to 100k per year. Upper tier = 15/20+ years.
Impressive, still 15-20+ years is a long time...

The way I see it, it doesn't even matter if global warming, global climate change, global climate destabilization, or global climate clusterf**k (whatever you want to call it) is actually going on or not.  Any way you look at it, reducing reliance of fossil fuels is a worthwhile goal.

  • Fossil fuels are terribly inefficient; the majority of the energy produced in a gasoline reaction is wasted.
  • They produce smog, air pollution, and acid rain, contributing to environmental and health damage.
  • There is only a limited supply of fossil fuels, and with the Earth's population constantly growing, there's no way of knowing how long they'll last.
  • The countries that produce petroleum in great quantities (OPEC) are a downright extortionate conglomeration that borders on monopoly.
  • Some of the biggest producers are way too friendly with terrorist organizations.
  • Reducing fuel consumption (obviously) reduces expenses, and research into alternative fuels creates jobs.

Oh, and just for the record, it was 85 degrees here today (29 Celsius) and it's the beginning of November. :P
Well, I envy your high temperatures (where do you live?) and I guess I fully agree with you there. Especially points 4 and 5. Fortunately, Saskatchewan (where I live) has enough uranium, potash, and petrolium to keep itself going for a long time. It's basically a resource haven. Alberta (which is just beside it) has tons of petrolium too (though no uranium, etc;). Unfortunately BC is undergoing a domestic terrorist who's been blowing up gas pipes. F***ing idiot...

While I support alternative energy, I also support nuclear energy. True, it's not all that clean, and it does leave nuclear waste, but Saskatchewan produces so bloody much uranium (most in the world, actually) and our north is very vast and empty. In fact, there's no roads in the top quarter of Saskatchewan.

BTW: On another topic, why DO americans use Fahrenheit instead of Celsius? I don't know any other countries that use it, and I can't spot any thing standardized about it. Celsius is so simple, 0 degrees is freezing point, 100 degrees is boiling point. Yet Fahrenheit doesn't seem to have any such patterns. While on that metric system topic, what's so good about using miles? A kilometer is 1000 meters, a meter is 100 centemeters, a centemeter is 10 milimeters, so on. This metric system is supported by nearly every country in the world except USA. Dito for grams, kilograms, etc; Even computers use these measurements (kilobyte, megabyte, gigabyte). So why do americans not use them? What is your reasons for not? Anyone care to tell me? I'm curious.
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Post by: Trappin on 2 November 2009, 04:48:21
Unless you die early in life, expect to work 50 years. What else is there to do. Work isn't always work.

You are aware where American units of measurement originated right? England.

Metric Units: US uses it in science/mathematics and the automobile industry. Short story follows. Back in 1976 the US tried to change the unit of measurement from the English standard to metric but it failed - for numerous reasons. People in general hate this sort of change, unions/journeymen didn't want to change and the dollar cost of converting 10 million road signs and even more road-mile markers put people off. Should we have converted? hell yes. Think of all the tortured school kids trying to convert 16/47ths into decimals. Now cry. heh.

There is one more reason.

Think of the US as a gigantic ship. She sails along fine as long as no one alters the course. Changing course on a huge ship = incredible momentum divided by inertia.

I think people don't fathom how large the US really is. The population of Norway is ~4 million people. The population of Los Angeles county is 9,862,049.

Comprede amigo?
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Post by: John.d.h on 2 November 2009, 05:19:15
Yeah, that pretty much sums it up.  While it would be nice if the US ran on the metric system and it would be good in the long run, we've never gotten up the gumption to take the short-term hit.  Oh, and I live in central Florida, but 85 degrees is still unseasonably warm.  If I remember correctly, Fahrenheit originated in Germany and it was based on having human body temperature as 100 degrees (which is pretty close at 98.6 on average) and 0 being... well, damn cold. :D

I'm in favor of nuclear power to some degree.  I definitely prefer it over fossil fuels because the waste is less harmful (sure it's radioactive, but there's so little of it).  I think solar power will be the norm eventually.  We're constantly bombarded with more solar radiation than we could possibly use, especially here in the SUNSHINE state, and there are even small single-person vehicles that can run on solar power, so it's only a matter of time before solar cells get cheap enough and durable enough to be useful to the average person.
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Post by: ElimiNator on 2 November 2009, 05:21:57
No more gas?

Wow I wanted to spend my $ on gas.
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Post by: John.d.h on 2 November 2009, 05:34:55
Don't worry.  I'm sure there will still be some old gas guzzlers on the road for a long time.  ;)

Anyway, here's an article on the car my university converted to solar power.
http://www.centralfloridafuture.com/kosmas-cruises-solar-zenn-car-across-campus-1.1771853 (http://www.centralfloridafuture.com/kosmas-cruises-solar-zenn-car-across-campus-1.1771853)
As you can see, it's a two-seater and it doesn't have a lot of "get up and go", but it requires no fuel other than sunlight.
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Post by: ElimiNator on 2 November 2009, 16:25:09
OK so thes cars will be expensive right, and will need big batteries if they don't want to stop in a 3 to 4 day storm (maby longer.).
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Post by: Omega on 2 November 2009, 16:32:35
What I think the future holds is electric cars that can run for at least 200+ kilometers before needing gas. I'm hoping for something like that in the next ten years!
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Post by: -Archmage- on 2 November 2009, 16:36:14
Yeah, Omega that would be nice, but we should really be trying to get to Mars.
If USA wasn't putting all this money into social programs and so-called "health care" then we would have the money to develop cars like that and get to space.
But the way were going we probably won't get to Mars for .........a while.
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Post by: John.d.h on 2 November 2009, 19:56:18
Why should we be trying to get to Mars?  Sure, it would be kinda cool to say we landed on another celestial body and didn't fake it this time, but I don't see how it would do any good other than to show off how much money we can waste on frivolous showboating while our nation decays from the inside out.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 2 November 2009, 22:00:05
Duh, this world is already gone John, if we go to Mars while we still can, then we can build a new nation and all that.....
Really I'd much rather get off this ball of dirt and go somewhere..........I mean really, you want to stay on Earth?
The whole world is corrupt.
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Post by: John.d.h on 2 November 2009, 23:47:55
Okay, so when our Martian colonies all turn corrupt like their predecessors on Earth, then we move on to another planet, and then another?  People don't change.

Anyway, here's something all you anti-authoritarians and conspiracy theorists might enjoy.  In case you're not familiar with the work of Stanley Milgram, he was a scientist who conducted an experiment back in the 1960s in which he observed volunteers' willingness to bow to authority.  In the study, the volunteers are told that they're conducting an experiment on learning and punishment, so one is assigned to be the "teacher" and the other is the "student".  The student is asked to recall a pattern and every time he gets something wrong, the teacher shocks him.  It starts off with a very mild voltage and increases each time up to a maximum of 450 volts.  For comparison, an American electrical outlet is 110-120 volts and a European one is 240.  The twist is that the student is actually an actor and isn't really being shocked at all, which is a good thing because over half of the "teachers" continued shocking the students up to 450 volts (fatal) even after the student feigns unconsciousness.    This study was originally done in the 60s and over half of the participants went to the maximum voltage, but the study was replicated recently in the UK and the results... well, I'm not going to spoil the surprise.  You just have to watch and see. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=5CC7F7D6054E7428&search_query=milgram+experiment+2%2F3+2009 (http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=5CC7F7D6054E7428&search_query=milgram+experiment+2%2F3+2009)

If you have any interest in how normal people can do horrible things simply because they're following orders, this is a must-see!
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Post by: modman on 3 November 2009, 02:26:21
In the study, the volunteers are told that they're conducting an experiment on learning and punishment, so one is assigned to be the "teacher" and the other is the "student".  The student is asked to recall a pattern and every time he gets something wrong, the teacher shocks him.  It starts off with a very mild voltage and increases each time up to a maximum of 450 volts.  For comparison, an American electrical outlet is 110-120 volts and a European one is 240.  The twist is that the student is actually an actor and isn't really being shocked at all, which is a good thing because over half of the "teachers" continued shocking the students up to 450 volts (fatal) even after the student feigns unconsciousness.    This study was originally done in the 60s and over half of the participants went to the maximum voltage, but the study was replicated recently in the UK and the results... well, I'm not going to spoil the surprise.  You just have to watch and see. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=5CC7F7D6054E7428&search_query=milgram+experiment+2%2F3+2009 (http://server6.kproxy.com/servlet/redirect.srv/sruj/snlffhcn/snop/p1/view_play_list?p=5CC7F7D6054E7428&search_query=milgram+experiment+2%2F3+2009)

I remember this was related to the trials of the Nazis who were "only following orders".  Personally, I do believe that in some circumstances, you might end up being a kindergarten teacher, whereas in another, you end up as a gas chamber attendant (which I believe is a profession in some US states anyhow...I hate capital punishment because it has no benefits besides revenge, which is punishment out of anger).  And no matter what you do, there is only so much we can do to avoid such things.  Think of the alternatives for that soldier...  Additionally, even IF he knew the extent of his actions, he may not have easily been able to escape them.
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Post by: John.d.h on 3 November 2009, 05:01:57
Yeah, Milgram's experiment was inspired by the holocaust and how so many ordinary people could just fall in line under a force of authority.  One important difference, I think, is that in the experiment, the scientist holds no coercive power.  In a totalitarian dictatorship, you have to follow orders because you'll maybe get a bullet in your head if you don't, but people in the experiment could have just said "I'm not going to do it" and walked away, no harm, no foul.
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Post by: ElimiNator on 3 November 2009, 07:11:30
You have to follow orders because you'll maybe get a bullet in your head if you don't.
You just need to be the one with the gun.  :D
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Post by: modman on 4 November 2009, 01:20:21
Yea, that works for a while.  Once you brandish your gun, though, what do you do?  You're in the middle of a blasted ( :) ) prison camp!

Theology debate now?

As an atheist, I have found no convincing arguments in favor of the existence of a deity.  Please keep in mind, too, that you are almost certainly an atheist when pertaining to the gods of the Greeks, the Romans, the Maya and Aztec, North American Natives' gods, and everything in between.  If you are a Christian, you are an atheist when concerning all but one god, Yahweh.  I just take it one step further, refuting him (her? / it?) as easily as Christians refute Zeus.

Additionally, there are several problems concerning individual religions, too.  For example, I read about an Islamic woman carrying an Arabic sign which read something like: "Behead all those who say Islam is violent!"  She did not recognize the extreme irony.

If religious debate is banned here, I understand why.  But until some one says so, let the talks begin!
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Post by: ElimiNator on 4 November 2009, 02:23:13
Modman you say your an atheist right?, do you believe in evolution?, and what do you mean by atheist?
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Post by: John.d.h on 4 November 2009, 02:27:18
Personally, when I examine the universe and everything in it, how complex, organized, and beautiful everything is, I can't bring myself to believe that it's all created by some cosmic accident of random chance.  Entropy dictates that closed systems break down over time without an external influence, and the number of factors that need to coincide for life to exist and survive despite all the various things that could have come along and destroyed us before we even became multi-cellular... it all just seems too far-fetched to be an accident.  Some people become less religious as they study science and the natural world, but I'm kinda the opposite.  The more I learn about the universe and how it works, the more I'm convinced that there has to be a god.

Having established that, I'm a Christian because that's what makes the most sense to me.  I've studied other religions and they just don't seem to add up in my mind.  However, I'm not one of those people who believe that every single word of the Bible is straight from God.  It's been passed down, edited, translated, re-edited, redacted, and passed through more hands than can be counted.  To believe that it has remained perfect throughout the whole process is to believe that every translator, editor, etc., was also perfect, and that kinda goes directly against one of the core beliefs of Christianity: the imperfection of humanity!  What we're taught in church is even worse, as half of it is more folklore than Biblical anyway, like the conventional concepts of the afterlife, Heaven, and Hell, which don't even remotely resemble scripture at all.  Basically, I think the Christianity most people believe in is true in the same way as one of those movies that's "based on a true story".  Most of the basics are there, but executive meddling (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ExecutiveMeddling) has changed it quite a bit.
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Post by: Hectate on 4 November 2009, 03:08:09
I have to agree with John. The world is too complex to be merely accidental. Some would say that this makes me simple or small-minded, but the truth is that it takes as much faith to believe that God "is, was, and always will be" as it does to believe any of the leading, popular theories concerning the origin of what we perceive as our existence.

Organized religion has definitly had (and still has) its share of... quirks. I subscribe to the belief that those quirks are not God's doing, but Man's. I did go to a private Bible college, but that doesn't mean that I agreed with all that I was taught. That is what God instilled in us - the ability to choose of our free will.

If we are God's creation, aren't you glad he's not a dictator?

Modman: Keep in mind that "atheist" literally means "without god(s)". I am not atheist toward Greek, Roman, or other gods - I am a monotheist. To say that one is atheist toward specific gods defies the very definition of the word. (dictionary nazi out, lol)
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Post by: ElimiNator on 4 November 2009, 03:27:44
I agree too that the world is too complex to be merely accidental.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 4 November 2009, 03:57:51
I agree as well.
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Post by: modman on 4 November 2009, 22:15:50
First, we should examine what religion has given us, then examine what science has.  Now, I want to make it clear that I am looking for OBJECTIVE benefits, not "but if there weren't Christianity, the world would be in chaos" nonsense which in fact adds nothing to the debate.

Technology is the direct result of science.  Science is all about inquiring into the way the universe works, not saying "god dunnit".  Indeed, the entire premise of irreducible complexity, one of Intelligent Design (ID)'s cornerstone argument (which is quite easily disproved), is to first state that the universe is too unlikely to occur by chance.  They see no alternative to chance, and simply jump to ID.

Scientifically, the belief in God is a hypothesis, not a theory, since there are criteria belief in God does not meet, such as testability.  The God hypothesis, however, creates more problems than it solves.  The Ultimate Boeing 747 gambit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_Boeing_747_gambit) explains that the belief in a god as the creator of the universe forms an infinite regress.  This relies on the legitimate question of "Where did God come from?".  By the way, this question is legitimate, because it is completely within the laws of logic.  Once you have identified that god's creator (God B), you must determine the origin of God B.  This pattern continues ad infinitum.  Since all creators are assumed to be at least as complex as their creations, the complexity must also increase, starting from the type of complexity capable of creating a universe like ours.  So God must have formed from another process than creation, for the above reasoning.  Which choice should we choose: pure chance (of a vastly more complex being than ourselves, which means it becomes unfathomably improbable), or by evolution?  I would say that it is vastly more likely that life on Earth evolved from prokaryotic cells, which came from simpler proteins.

Of course, it is important to note that evolution only explains the diversity of life, not its origins.  If you want that, ask a biochemist.

One who has taken a close look at the anthropic principle, an argument commonly used to argue for the presence of a deity, is actually suggests quite the contrary.  The anthropic principle says that if the universe were a horrible, vicious soup of stars and gamma rays and asteroids, there would be no life.  Because there would be no life, no intelligence would exist within the life, and, Wallah!, nobody would observe it.  By this reasoning, the only universes observable from within are those which support life, and so we should not be surprised to be living in a habitable universe.  ID proponents will look at the universe and say "My, how complex it is!  I cannot imagine another way life could be (argument from lack of imagination), and so the universe must be fine tuned!  And who better to do the fine tuning than Yahweh (only because most ID proponents are Christian)!".

Scientists have found about six "settings" the universe must have or it would be vastly different.  The strength of gravity, the strong force, etc. all determine whether the universe will be habitable.  Some scientists say the six are linked together, and so they must be this way.  Regardless, it is likely (but admittedly not for sure only because such a simulation is far far far beyond today's computational capacity) that the numbers were formed during the big bang.  Like an accordion, the universe might condense again, and reform the numbers.  Another theory, the multiverse or "megaverse" theory, suggest near infinite universes are present, each with different conditions.  The anthropic principle, like evolution, work off of the variance in order to explain the world naturalistically.  God Hypotheses, however, having no evidence, rely on social proof, like teaching in Sunday school.
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Post by: ElimiNator on 4 November 2009, 23:47:46
The reason why people believe in evolution is because they don't want to believe that there is a god, Why? because if there is a god then you have to obey him or go to hell, and you want to live you sinful live full of pleasures.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 4 November 2009, 23:52:52
Anyways, evolution is a heavily flawed theory...........
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Post by: ElimiNator on 4 November 2009, 23:54:49
Yes I watched over 8 long movies about it, they all disproved it.
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Post by: Hectate on 5 November 2009, 03:34:34
Interestingly enough I agree with many of your points modman. The reason that I stated that it takes equal faith to believe in ID as to not believe it was for the very reason you indicated. Yes, where could God come from? And, in the same vein, where could have a big bang come from? How deep does that rabbit hole go?

To take it further, how can you say that the same chaotic randomness that could eventually create an observable universe AND observers (us) could not have instead (or also) created a "higher power"?

On another note, you contrast science and religion as if they're mutually exclusive, but I disagree. Science is what we know, the study of fact - certainty. Faith is the belief of something we don't know, uncertainty. They are not exclusive, just opposite. I can't KNOW that God exists (unless He drops by and says hello, I suppose), but I can believe that He does. Does my belief in God affect my knowledge of truth? No.
Yes religions over the years HAVE influnced peoples views and ideas of what is true. But the fact remains that, well, the facts remain. We live in a time where we are constantly learning more about our universe, and I like that. Evolution - also a hypothesis by your definition - has too many contradictions, at least ID is a "Grand Unified" take on things.
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Post by: John.d.h on 5 November 2009, 03:56:11
Science is all about inquiring into the way the universe works,
So is religion.
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Indeed, the entire premise of irreducible complexity, one of Intelligent Design (ID)'s cornerstone argument (which is quite easily disproved)
Okay then, go ahead. ;)
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Scientifically, the belief in God is a hypothesis, not a theory, since there are criteria belief in God does not meet, such as testability.
A hypothesis is a testable prediction.  The belief in God is a belief, not a hypothesis.
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The God hypothesis, however, creates more problems than it solves.  The Ultimate Boeing 747 gambit (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_Boeing_747_gambit) explains that the belief in a god as the creator of the universe forms an infinite regress.  ...  Once you have identified that god's creator (God B), you must determine the origin of God B.  This pattern continues ad infinitum.
You're making two huge and baseless assumptions about space-time here.  Can you guess what they are?
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Since all creators are assumed to be at least as complex as their creations
And why would we assume that?  Given current technological progress, it's only a matter of time before we create something more complex than ourselves.
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Which choice should we choose: pure chance (of a vastly more complex being than ourselves, which means it becomes unfathomably improbable)
Huh?  Trying to figure out the probability of a god existing is like trying to figure out the probability of gravity.  Probability can only be assigned when you have factors that influence the outcome, but God/gravity either exist or they don't.  They're not outcomes of any process or reaction.
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One who has taken a close look at the anthropic principle, an argument commonly used to argue for the presence of a deity, is actually suggests quite the contrary.  The anthropic principle says that if the universe were a horrible, vicious soup of stars and gamma rays and asteroids, there would be no life.  Because there would be no life, no intelligence would exist within the life, and, Wallah!, nobody would observe it.  By this reasoning, the only universes observable from within are those which support life, and so we should not be surprised to be living in a habitable universe.
But why should such a universe exist for us to be able to observe it?  If there's only one universe (and we don't have anything even remotely conclusive that suggests otherwise), why would that one universe happen to be balanced the way it is?  It's a little like betting all your money on one roll on a giant roulette wheel (and by giant, I mean one having possibly billions of numbers) and winning.  While not statistically impossible, it's pretty unlikely to say the least.  I say we should be surprised to exist.
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ID proponents will look at the universe and say "My, how complex it is!  I cannot imagine another way life could be (argument from lack of imagination)
::) Condescending much?  To assume anyone who thinks differently from you only thinks that way from lack of imagination (or intelligence, education, understanding, yadda yadda) is arrogant and close-minded in the extreme.  Besides, I think we should all know by now that I'm nothing if not imaginative. ;)
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Scientists have found about six "settings" the universe must have or it would be vastly different.  The strength of gravity, the strong force, etc. all determine whether the universe will be habitable.  Some scientists say the six are linked together, and so they must be this way.
Don't forget anti-matter.  There's no apparent reason why there is more matter than anti-matter in the universe, and if they were equal, the universe would explode in a perfect 1:1 conversion of matter to energy.  (Yeah, anti-matter is pretty badass like that.) ;D
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Regardless, it is likely (but admittedly not for sure only because such a simulation is far far far beyond today's computational capacity) that the numbers were formed during the big bang.  Like an accordion, the universe might condense again, and reform the numbers.
Pure conjecture.  While it is often proposed that the universe will collapse in on itself and form another big bang, there's no reason why this should change the laws of physics or quantities of anything, especially since it's going to be exactly the same amount of matter and energy as it was the last time (assuming there was a last time) because of conservation of mass and energy, meaning the reaction should be virtually identical.  The explosion might go in a different direction or a different shape or something, but all the same stuff is going to be there.
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God Hypotheses, however, having no evidence, rely on social proof, like teaching in Sunday school.
Ugh... there you go again with this "you only feel that way because you don't know any better" nonsense.  Knock it off already.
The reason why people believe in evolution is because they don't want to believe that there is a god, Why? because if there is a god then you have to obey him or go to hell, and you want to live you sinful live full of pleasures.
Well at least it's not only Modman doing it, then. ::)  Don't presume to know why anyone believes what they believe.  You have your reasons for your beliefs and they have theirs.  It's not necessarily because they want to be hedonists. :P
Anyways, evolution is a heavily flawed theory...........
And this goes to prove the existence of God how?
To take it further, how can you say that the same chaotic randomness that could eventually create an observable universe AND observers (us) could not have instead (or also) created a "higher power"?
Hmm... interesting notion.  It's a little "out there" if you ask me, but still interesting. ;D
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They are not exclusive, just opposite. I can't KNOW that God exists (unless He drops by and says hello, I suppose), but I can believe that He does. Does my belief in God affect my knowledge of truth? No. Yes religions over the years HAVE influnced peoples views and ideas of what is true. But the fact remains that, well, the facts remain. We live in a time where we are constantly learning more about our universe, and I like that. Evolution - also a hypothesis by your definition - has too many contradictions, at least ID is a "Grand Unified" take on things.
I wouldn't say they're opposite.  They're each a search for truth, but they go about it in different ways.  They both start with "okay, so here's what we know..." and progress to "so here's what we think that means".  Each makes observations, collects data, applies logic, makes conclusions, etc.  Basically the only difference is verifiability.  Science can be tested empirically, where religion can't.  That doesn't make it any less valid, though.  Here's another thing we can't test empirically: "Does your mother love you?"  There's no way to find out for sure, but that doesn't mean she does or doesn't, and we can make inferences based on what we see to conclude whether we think she does or doesn't and take it on faith.  I'm totally okay with the fact that we don't have everything figured out for certain, and I think that's one of the things that separates science from religion.  Science can't accept anything without absolute proof, whereas religion can.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 5 November 2009, 12:33:40
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Anyways, evolution is a heavily flawed theory...........
And this goes to prove the existence of God how?

It wasn't meant to.
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Post by: Kung Fu Panda on 5 November 2009, 21:16:55
This may be one of my last posts here
modman about the website u gave me its a christian website and u would get a similar result if i showed u one of the Christianity websites. About the "Islamic laws are old" dude u're giving me the feeling that ur not grown up at all no offense i swear. Some freedoms are not good. and thats why I said USA has one of the highest 'crime' rates but however i didn't mean 'crime' when i said that hoping u would understand. See, even christianity has laws that are even worse than some punishments in Islam. Why do nuns where full dresses? they are commanded to do so. Same case here only thing is all women are commanded to wear full dresses. and i CLOSE THIS HERE its gettin us nowhere
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about evolution , in Darwin's book "The origin of species" he himself says that he does not fully believe in the theory. All that made him think of the theory was that the same type of bird had 2 different types of beaks in different habitats. They say 'variation' or changing characteristics i.e features different from parents led to evolution over a loooooong time. Its sufficient to say we never found a SINGLE fossil that was a hybrid of 2 different types of animals for e.g  we never found a 'monkey-man' fossil till now! a more effective argument would be 'If Monkeys became humans, why are there still monkeys?' the fossil of the ant has remained identical for millions of years - why no 'variation' here?
Then they say that it was some radiation that caused it. There was a famous experiment scientists did on fruit-flies. They exposed them to different types of radioactive radiations. All they ended up with was flies with 2 heads, an extra or missing limb or wing, etc - totally not desired.
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Post by: modman on 5 November 2009, 22:34:08
This may be one of my last posts here
That's unfortunate for us all, considering I was attempting a civil debate... 

I am interested in what arguments you have to present, all of you, including Kunng Fu Panda. 

If I sound arrogent, it is my mistake, because I almost never am able to carry on conversations which amount to my previous post with theists, but there are of course exceptions.  Usually the most hospitable are the "intellectuals", which, in the meaning of the word, I consider myself to be.

This may be one of my last posts here
modman about the website u gave me its a christian website and u would get a similar result if i showed u one of the Christianity websites.
I don't recall giving you personally a website, however I showed the Wikipedia page.  I would consider Wikipedia to be secular.

Some freedoms are not good. and thats why I said USA has one of the highest 'crime' rates but however i didn't mean 'crime' when i said that hoping u would understand.
Yes, some freedoms are not good, like the freedom to kill, steal, commit arson, etc.  However, I believe that the rights laid out in the American Constitution are good ones to have, and this is because the framers knew history.  I don't want to go into specifics, but theocracies tend to be especially difficult to have positive foreign relations with.
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Post by: Hectate on 5 November 2009, 23:55:19
This may be one of my last posts here
modman about the website u gave me its a christian website and u would get a similar result if i showed u one of the Christianity websites. About the "Islamic laws are old" dude u're giving me the feeling that ur not grown up at all no offense i swear. Some freedoms are not good. and thats why I said USA has one of the highest 'crime' rates but however i didn't mean 'crime' when i said that hoping u would understand. See, even christianity has laws that are even worse than some punishments in Islam. Why do nuns where full dresses? they are commanded to do so. Same case here only thing is all women are commanded to wear full dresses. and i CLOSE THIS HERE its gettin us nowhere
If you read this, Kung Fu Panda, please understand that Catholic (as in Nuns), does NOT equal Christian. No offense to any Catholics, but there is variance between the definitions. There are as many differences between different Christians as there are between Muslim and Catholics.
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Post by: Mark on 6 November 2009, 02:23:49
This may be one of my last posts here
modman about the website u gave me its a christian website and u would get a similar result if i showed u one of the Christianity websites. About the "Islamic laws are old" dude u're giving me the feeling that ur not grown up at all no offense i swear. Some freedoms are not good. and thats why I said USA has one of the highest 'crime' rates but however i didn't mean 'crime' when i said that hoping u would understand. See, even christianity has laws that are even worse than some punishments in Islam. Why do nuns where full dresses? they are commanded to do so. Same case here only thing is all women are commanded to wear full dresses. and i CLOSE THIS HERE its gettin us nowhere
If you read this, Kung Fu Panda, please understand that Catholic (as in Nuns), does NOT equal Christian. No offense to any Catholics, but there is variance between the definitions. There are as many differences between different Christians as there are between Muslim and Catholics.
I wouldn't say that.  I think that a better way to say it would be 'there are nearly as many differences between non-catholic denominations of Christianity as there are between Muslims and Catholics.'  Or, you could elaborate, because I know catholic can mean the whole christian church, not just Roman Catholicism.  I mean, there are also some people who will not accept similarities (or even implications of similarities, like yours, because protestantism and roman catholicism are seen as very similar especially to other religions, apparently) between Christianity (especially catholic christianity) and islam.  This is because everybody with some knowledge of history has heard of the muslim european jihads (the ones that captured parts of italy, sicily, turkey and the holy land), the terrible crusades that were caused by those jihads, battles for mediterranean fought between italy and spain and the ottoman turks, and the various (and tediously innumerable) small attacks by both sides in the 20th and 21st centuries.  Because the conflicts were almost exclusively between catholics and extremist muslims (note: I understand that not all muslim peoples are war mongering and can't be contributing members of the global economy), and this apparently makes the muslims (at least the ones I know), hate (or at least despise at the same level) all christians.  My point here is that muslims see chistians (plus the other way around) as entirely different because of the conflicts, even if they aren't.  So try to take that into consideration, because it is hard to understand what he is saying without doing so.

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Why do nuns where full dresses? they are commanded to do so.
This is irrelevant because no one is forced to become a nun.  In your country every woman has to wear the same thing. 

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and i CLOSE THIS HERE its gettin us nowhere
If I am sounding hostile, tell me.  I would not want to sound hostile.  And the reason this is getting us nowhere is that the argument has just begun, so to speak.  Maybe you should try presenting your stance in a different way. 

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Post by: modman on 6 November 2009, 03:59:57
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Why do nuns where full dresses? they are commanded to do so.
This is irrelevant because no one is forced to become a nun.  In your country every woman has to wear the same thing.
I could not have said it better.  In a theocracy, one can expect laws which infringe on the rights of people, and unevenly, and for this reason is it, shall we say, behind the times.  And forgive me for calling Islam old, for Christianity is a third older, but it is old.  What a religion does is transports values from the time it began to the present day, and often dogmatically, at that. :P

in Darwin's book "The origin of species" he himself says that he does not fully believe in the theory.
Please use a direct quote from the book.  This would be more convincing, especially when coupled by page numbers ;).  Also, I am not concerned with personal opinions of scientists.  If you're concerned about personal opinions, only 7% of those belonging to the National Academy of Sciences believe in a personal god, and 99.85% agree with the theory of evolution.  Please don't get me wrong, though: Science is done by facts, mathematics, observations, and, ultimately, evidence, and so is not concerned with popularity.  Everything has to start somewhere, right?

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a more effective argument would be 'If Monkeys became humans, why are there still monkeys?'
This is because monkeys are able to survive.  I know it sounds stupid, but if monkeys were unable to cope with Homo Sapiens, there would be no monkeys!  Additionally, we did not evolve from monkeys.  We have a common descendant with monkeys.  It's like saying you came from your sibling, whereas you came from your parents (please excuse the fact that two humans are necessary for offspring).  So, in a very loose sense of the word, we are brothers of the monkeys.  See http://listverse.com/2009/01/05/top-10-signs-of-evolution-in-modern-man/ (http://listverse.com/2009/01/05/top-10-signs-of-evolution-in-modern-man/).

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Then they say that it was some radiation that caused it. There was a famous experiment scientists did on fruit-flies. They exposed them to different types of radioactive radiations. All they ended up with was flies with 2 heads, an extra or missing limb or wing, etc - totally not desired.
Radiation is part of the cause, the other being miscopying of DNA.  You say 'all they ended up with' like it is undesirable.  What was important was the principle, not the immediate result on the (fruit?) flies.  Because of the mutation, which is required by evolution (by the way, if you're looking to disprove evolution, finding no effect here could be part of it, but of course there was an effect), natural selection can occur.  Those flies which had multiple heads would most likely die, and so not produce offspring.  Thus the "bad" flies are eliminated, while flies able to reproduce create more like them.  Additionally, the flies which are able to reproduce more effectively also are benefited.  I don't have time to explain the whole process, but I am presumably not the only one here who understands it.
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Post by: John.d.h on 6 November 2009, 04:18:07
Don't even get me started on Catholicism.  It won't be pretty.
What a religion does is transports values from the time it began to the present day, and often dogmatically, at that. :P
I disagree.  Christianity went against a lot of the established traditions and values of the time, so to say that it was transplanting the values of circa 29AD would be very misleading.  In fact, a lot of Jesus' teachings would be considered progressive even today, almost two millennia later.
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Post by: modman on 6 November 2009, 04:57:12
I just looked it up, and Google (via Wikipedia) says that a hypothesis is an explanation for an observed phenomenon.  So in this definition, an explanation using a deity is a hypothesis.

John, do you believe in evolution?
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Post by: ElimiNator on 6 November 2009, 05:48:20
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Only a fool can look at the world and say there is no God.
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Post by: John.d.h on 6 November 2009, 06:43:01
Ehh... hypothesis, theory, belief, they all have different definitions depending on who you ask, so we'll go with hypothesis.  Do I believe in evolution?  How could I not?  Based on genetics and heredity, if one generation differs AT ALL from its parents, then it passes on different genes.  Evolution has to happen.  Just look at dog breeding, which is merely a form of forced evolution.  An animal is selected for its particular traits and it passes on those traits to its offspring, who will pass on new and different genes to its offspring, and so on.  The only way that evolution would not happen is if every being was an exact clone of its parent(s), with no genetic variation or mutation whatsoever.  The only way evolution differs from dog breeding is that it's much slower and organisms are selected through whether or not they can survive and mate, rather than by human breeders.  Now, this is a different question entirely from whether or not I believe humans descended from apes.  That's more murky territory, but I won't rule anything out.  Even if you take what Genesis says at face value, that all of Creation was made in six days, you have to take into account that God's sense of time is not the same as ours.  In fact, we have no reason to suspect that God is bound by our understanding of space-time, or even if God exists INSIDE our space-time (that was one of those huge assumptions you were making that I was pointing out earlier ;)).  Overall, the Genesis creation story corresponds quite well with our scientific understanding of the origin of the universe.  If you read through it, you might be surprised at how well things match up.
Quote from: Holy Bible, KJV
In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth.  And the earth was without form, and void; and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.  And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.  And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
In the beginning, everything is without form and the whole universe is a big mass of indistinct matter, much like what scientists believe it was like right after the Big Bang.  Then God sorted through the mess and formed it into distinct things.  Our understanding of the Big Bang is that it threw a big mess of matter and energy all over the place, and it gradually coalesced into distinct things like stars, nebulae, and planets as gravity took hold.  You follow so far?  I could go on with the quotes, but I'm sure you can look them up yourself (and probably a more modern translation than the KJV).  Basically, God goes on to separate things even further and form the Earth.  Notice that life is specifically stated as coming from the seas, much like our scientific understanding says.  Then the walking creatures, cattle, beasts, and creeping things develop on land.  Then after the rest of the animals, along comes humanity.  Overall, I'd say Genesis sounds about like 21st-century science from the perspective of someone who lived thousands of years ago.  Basically the only allowance you have to make is that time in the Bible is a lot different than how we think of it.
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Post by: modman on 6 November 2009, 23:52:56
Do I believe in evolution?  How could I not?
It's good to know that I'm not the only one who defends this crucial point.  It is important because we can get explanations for things attributed to religion, like morals, directly from evolution.

Quote from: Holy Bible, KJV
In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth.  And the earth was without form, and void; and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.  And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.  And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
In the beginning, everything is without form and the whole universe is a big mass of indistinct matter, much like what scientists believe it was like right after the Big Bang.  
It seems like a stretch to me.  I don't think it matches up that well.  Additionally, you would have to assume that "earth" from Genesis means the entire universe.  That verse seems more to me like an assertion that the Earth always existed, and then God shone light on it (um, and why is it necessary to separate light from darkness?  A Newtonian understanding of light is far more than necessary to know that darkness is nothing at all, just an absence of light).  Assuming that is what it really means, it also says that it was void, meaning nothing.  I don't remember how to achieve something from nothing...Additionally, although I may be pressing a bit too hard, it asserts that the "earth" (the word has lost considerable meaning by now) had water on it in "the beginning", which scientists believe to be impossible due to the heat of the earth at the time.

Quote from: Eliminator
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Only a fool can look at the world and say there is no God.
>:( >:( >:( That is completely unhelpful, and to add insult to injury, it is in need of citation, meaning there's no one to say you didn't make that up yourself.  It is at best misguided and without explanation, and at worst insulting.  For a case in point, replace "there is no god" with "the name of god is Allah".  Your life would be at risk (of course I mean far more than it is normally).  Or, to see my point of view, replace it with "that god had a son who was born of a virgin and was executed but came back from the dead after 3 days in order to be a scapegoat for the sins which man committed or was yet to commit."

Quote from: John.d.h
Overall, I'd say Genesis sounds about like 21st-century science from the perspective of someone who lived thousands of years ago.  Basically the only allowance you have to make is that time in the Bible is a lot different than how we think of it.
It is too generic to be thought of that way.  Obviously, we should not expect people of that time to understand the Big Bang, but something mentioning evolution later on would have been nice.  I was brought up as a Christian, and so I know Genesis in a general sense.  And I know a literal interpretation of Genesis is Creationism (for which ID is a Trojan horse).  I think it would be possible to find this effect in other creation myths.  For example, the Chinese creation myth:

In the beginning , the heavens and earth were still one and all was chaos. The universe was like a big black egg, carrying Pan Gu inside itself. After 18 thousand years Pan Gu woke from a long sleep. He felt suffocated, so he took up a broadax and wielded it with all his might to crack open the egg. The light, clear part of it floated up and formed the heavens, the cold, turbid matter stayed below to form earth. Pan Gu stood in the middle, his head touching the sky, his feet planted on the earth. The heavens and the earth began to grow at a rate of ten feet per day, and Pan Gu grew along with them. After another 18 thousand years, the sky was higher, the earth thicker, and Pan Gu stood between them like a pillar 9 million li in height so that they would never join again.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 6 November 2009, 23:56:53
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Only a fool can look at the world and say there is no God.
Angry Angry Angry That is completely unhelpful, and to add insult to injury, it is in need of citation, meaning there's no one to say you didn't make that up yourself.  It is at best misguided and without explanation, and at worst insulting.  For a case in point, replace "there is no god" with "the name of god is Allah".  Your life would be at risk (of course I mean far more than it is normally).  Or, to see my point of view, replace it with "that god had a son who was born of a virgin and was executed but came back from the dead after 3 days in order to be a scapegoat for the sins which man committed or was yet to commit."

No Elim is right, there must be a god, explain to us all how there couldn't be a god.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: GlestNewb on 7 November 2009, 00:31:10
Too lazy to read the first post, saw the topic name and got interested...We can talk whatever we want here? :D
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 7 November 2009, 00:32:01
Yes, but try not to interupt long discussions here with anything stupid.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: modman on 7 November 2009, 03:39:43
*facepalm*  You cannot just ignore my previous post!  You reply nothing to my comment that agreement with Eliminator's comment arrogantly calls every atheist a fool, without any justification.  Now, my tone may have been arrogant before, but it was nowhere near calling of names...I would recommend you both recant, in the form of deletion of posts, before I feel the need to assume it wasn't a mistake.

Actually, Bertrand Russel, in his teapot analogy (http://server16.kproxy.com/servlet/redirect.srv/slxv/sjsoqcwzyn/sgy/p1/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot), asserts the burden of proof falls on the theist (or deist, for that matter, although atheists tend to get along with deists well) for proving their deity exists.  Additionally, in all fairness, they should also be required to prove it is their deity, not the god of the Aborigines or the Aztec.

OK, I will strike a bargain.  I will as soon disprove the existence of Yahweh as you disprove the existence of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Oh, and for a list of arguments which attempt to disprove God, follow this link (http://server16.kproxy.com/servlet/redirect.srv/slxv/sjsoqcwzyn/sgy/p1/wiki/Existance_of_God#Arguments_against_the_existence_of_God).  Feel free, in fact I encourage you to, look at the arguments which attempt to do the opposite, but you will find none I could not demolish.

Because I think what you are doing is not debating, Arch, you are waiting me out, considering nothing I say, and slinging mud in the process.  All that accomplishes is that it gives you muddy hands and solidifies my belief that few theists are able to engage in civil debate, using logic, not politics.  This suggests they are not interested in changing their beliefs, should appropriate amounts of evidence arise, but to the contrary.  Please try to improve this behavior.  A suggestion would be that you present some evidence to support your position.  It shouldn't be that hard, given it is "obvious" as Eliminator asserts.
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Post by: John.d.h on 7 November 2009, 04:09:00
I wish I had a desk right now.  It's hard to *headdesk* without one.
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Post by: Hectate on 7 November 2009, 19:05:27
*facepalm*  You cannot just ignore my previous post!  You reply nothing to my comment that agreement with Eliminator's comment arrogantly calls every atheist a fool, without any justification.  Now, my tone may have been arrogant before, but it was nowhere near calling of names...I would recommend you both recant, in the form of deletion of posts, before I feel the need to assume it wasn't a mistake.

Actually, Bertrand Russel, in his teapot analogy (http://server16.kproxy.com/servlet/redirect.srv/slxv/sjsoqcwzyn/sgy/p1/wiki/Russell%27s_teapot), asserts the burden of proof falls on the theist (or deist, for that matter, although atheists tend to get along with deists well) for proving their deity exists.  Additionally, in all fairness, they should also be required to prove it is their deity, not the god of the Aborigines or the Aztec.

OK, I will strike a bargain.  I will as soon disprove the existence of Yahweh as you disprove the existence of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

Oh, and for a list of arguments which attempt to disprove God, follow this link (http://server16.kproxy.com/servlet/redirect.srv/slxv/sjsoqcwzyn/sgy/p1/wiki/Existance_of_God#Arguments_against_the_existence_of_God).  Feel free, in fact I encourage you to, look at the arguments which attempt to do the opposite, but you will find none I could not demolish.

Because I think what you are doing is not debating, Arch, you are waiting me out, considering nothing I say, and slinging mud in the process.  All that accomplishes is that it gives you muddy hands and solidifies my belief that few theists are able to engage in civil debate, using logic, not politics.  This suggests they are not interested in changing their beliefs, should appropriate amounts of evidence arise, but to the contrary.  Please try to improve this behavior.  A suggestion would be that you present some evidence to support your position.  It shouldn't be that hard, given it is "obvious" as Eliminator asserts.
(Note: Your link is broken to me modman - proxy page or something?)

I suppose the above is why it has been said that, while in polite company, not to speak of religion or politics.  Yes, it can be difficult to have a logical conversation when no relevant commentary has been provided by one of the parties. I certainly do attempt to do so myself. Arch & Elim are both willing to stand up for what they believe just as modman and John are, and I respect that just as much as I am able to both agree and disagree with any person that has participated in this conversation. I've had longer conversations concerning the subjects we've discussed here, but time is always short for me (I work 2 jobs) and I cannot reply in the length I desire. For those willing to continue the discussion, please continue.

Also, LOL @ Arch about long discussions and stupid etc. However, since GlestNewb has yet to receive an informative response I'd like to address the following to him.
GlestNewb: Yes, you may post whatever you like within the bounds of the rules of this forum. Many forums have an off-topic sub-forum, but to promote discussion and development directly related to Glest, the moderators have opted for a single thread instead. I understand that, over time, it is likely a second one will be opened and this one closed. Large threads tend to bog down forum software.

And on a completely off-topic note (or maybe since it's off-topic it's actually on-topic here! What a paradox, my head - it hurts!  ;) ) I have something of note! The following is posted from Slashdot, forgive the gratuitous copy + paste.

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"Just a week after Unity announced its engine is now available for
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http://unity3d.com/company/news/unity2.6-press.htm  free to indie users, Epic Games has revealed a free version of http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/61138  its popular Unreal Engine technology. Called the Unreal Development Kit
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http://www.udk.com/  (UDK), it is a free edition of UE3 that allows community, modder and indie users more access to the engine's features and is available for all. Epic said game developers, students, hobbyists, researchers, creators of 3D visualizations and simulations plus digital filmmakers can all take advantage of the UDK for non-commercial use. The UDK site also offers detailed product features, technical documentation http://udn.epicgames.com/ , commercial licensing terms and support resources."

I'm really excited about this. The cool thing is that (supposedly) it would be possible to port or remake Glest in the Unreal3 engine! Additionally, the engine has support for so many features that we've only ever dreamed of having, even in GAE. Please, discuss!
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Post by: -Archmage- on 7 November 2009, 19:15:38
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"Just a week after Unity announced its engine is now available for
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http://unity3d.com/company/news/unity2.6-press.htm  free to indie users, Epic Games has revealed a free version of http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/61138  its popular Unreal Engine technology. Called the Unreal Development Kit
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http://www.udk.com/  (UDK), it is a free edition of UE3 that allows community, modder and indie users more access to the engine's features and is available for all. Epic said game developers, students, hobbyists, researchers, creators of 3D visualizations and simulations plus digital filmmakers can all take advantage of the UDK for non-commercial use. The UDK site also offers detailed product features, technical documentation http://udn.epicgames.com/ , commercial licensing terms and support resources."

I'm really excited about this. The cool thing is that (supposedly) it would be possible to port or remake Glest in the Unreal3 engine! Additionally, the engine has support for so many features that we've only ever dreamed of having, even in GAE. Please, discuss!

Awesome!
I don't really know what else to say.........just awesome!
Oh wait, what would happen to the way we mod, would there be different code or are we keeping the data practically the same.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Hectate on 7 November 2009, 20:17:36
It'd probably require starting from scratch. I've not had a chance to read any documentation (or even download it), but I suspect that many existing Glest assets (except perhaps small amounts of artwork, sounds, etc) are incompatible with the Unreal3 engine. It might be possible to do some exporting of unit models and animations but all the code would have to be completely redone.

The benefits to redoing it includes taking advantage of the existing multiplayer code from U3, visual effects like shaders and particles, as well as 100% custom terrain creation. Things like amphibious, land, air, and water units wouldn't be difficult either. U3 already has vehicles for multiplayer games (FPS) so things like bunkers and walls, mannable weapons should be easy also!
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Post by: John.d.h on 8 November 2009, 00:55:21
Seems to me like it would be easier to just look at how their engine does those things and then integrate it into ours, but my programming knowledge doesn't go much further than "Hello world!".
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Hectate on 8 November 2009, 01:34:03
Sorry, the source isn't open. The tools and engine is a free license for non-commercial use. And it's windows only. Still, I'm interested to see what'll be done with it.
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Post by: Omega on 8 November 2009, 11:01:59
Ok, you want to start on religion? You've started a big fire here. I'm going back to addressing this to modman and other atheists.

Firstly, science says that it is only by incredible luck that the universe exists. According to science, if there was just one difference in the weight of an atom, the universe may never have occurred. It just seems to impossible for me to believe that we are here by a chance slimmer than winning the lottery twice in a row. I'm not a big believer in luck or coincidences, so it seems that something else played a hand in our existence.

Why is it that people find it so hard to believe what they cannot see? Can you see oxygen? Yet you need it to survive. I'll take it you'll accept the fact that it exists. You say you are a man of science, so I'll assume that you believe oxygen exists, even though you cannot see it. But you can see what it does, can't you? So is the same with god. For some reason, people always seem to have trouble believing what they cannot see, or what they believe impossible. For example, I cannot understand how a hypnotist does what he does. It boggles my mind completely. I cannot understand it, yet I believe it works. Just because you cannot see or understand it does not mean that it does not exist.

On another point, the main reason that people apparently don't believe in god appears to be because they do not claim to see what he does in the world. If a catholic man was killed in a driving accident, they state that that is a sign that either our god is either helpless, uncaring, or non-existant. I think the simplest way to explain this is from an excerpt from 'Angels and Demons', in my own words:
"If you had a son, would you love him? Would you do everything in your power to prevent pain in his life?" Naturally, you would, but now answer this, "Would you let him skateboard?" You would probably, just giving him a few basic tips and letting him learn, correct? "What if he fell and skinned his knee?" He would have to learn to be more careful. So in short, we give him a few basic pointers to get him started, then let him learn from his mistakes, correct? Exactly.

You know, in a travel agents office, I read this poster for something very interesting (just a small example). It was about a town in Europe that, during the bubonic plague, prayed a vow to god that they would perform a play of Jesus's death every ten years if he spared their village from the black death. Not one person became infected with the black death, and they've been performing for hundreds of years. I think this is it
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[url=http://www.passionplay2010.org/?cat=2]here[/url].

Regardless of what a religion believes as a god, they all teach the same values: to love one another, to treat everyone fairly, not to steal, not to lust, not to murder, etc, etc; Religion keeps society organized.

On the topic of Jesus, do you believe Jesus once existed? Science cannot even deny the evidence of him and his disciples. So, how do you explain curing of a blind man? Can science make a blind man see? Can you? Can you not see any other way that that is possible except by the fact that there must be a god to do so? Do you really think a man could do all the things that he did without the help from god?

Why are these things so hard to believe. You asked us to prove the existence of god? I ask you to prove he does not exist!
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Post by: Trappin on 9 November 2009, 01:49:37
Look to the people of history you admire and respect. Did they wear religion on their sleeves? Maybe they were radical thinkers and defied traditional religious orthodoxy. As an American I look to Ben Franklin, Samuel Clemens, Thomas Paine, Washington and others. Some were devout Christians, others deists but none were athiests.

Paine was an early socialist - as is possible by modern standards. He was a radical revolutionary and spent many years in exile and a year(?) in French prison. Franklin was his friend, Washington an early ally but later they parted ways. But all of these men believed, at varying levels, that there was something more to the natural world and universe than mere collections of atoms, light and gravity. Samuel Clemens lived at another period in our history but would easily have been a revolutionary - I'm not aware of his religious beliefs but I know he carried with him notions of the spiritual world.

I'm not sure of the advantage we gain by bickering on the internet - the same old arguments and rebuttals are recycled over and over again. No consensus will be reached and no victory can be claimed by anyone. The only way we lose the right to worship god - or not - is by allowing our elected official to dominate our lives through onerous legislative acts. We bicker and moan while our governments devise ways to consolidate power for their own selfish purposes.

  
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Post by: modman on 9 November 2009, 03:35:45
Science notes that, yes in the exact conditions it is now, our universe quite possibly is incredibly unlikely.  I do believe, however, that I addressed this point previously.  Some scientists believe that the conditions which determine whether life is possible, like, yes, the weights of the subatomic particles, and thus the strength of gravity, and the strength of the other three forces (although I’m not sure whether the weak force should be measured in strength…), are interconnected.  In other words, it may not be so improbable.  Secondly, Intelligent Design proponents use a simple pattern in order to “prove” the existence of intelligence: first, they demonstrate, using philosophy or genuine science that some phenomena in nature are very unlikely, and cannot be easily explained by science.  Their next step is the big one: they simply conclude that the only way for it to happen is for a supernatural event, like the intervention of a deity.  This is faulty because our universe is not ruled by chance, but by the laws of the universe.  What are the chances for a diamond to form?  Very low indeed.  For the first atom to be placed in the first place, if one of a million, the chance is one in a million.  For the second atom, it is 1/999999.  For the third, it is 1/999998, etc.  And by the way, I didn’t even account for the fact that none of the atoms could be antimatter, or that all of the atoms have to be Carbon, rather than any other element.  For another example, what are the chances that g=/-9.8 in a vacuum on earth?  Considering that g could equal anything, the chance that g will be the same in all cases is infinity x #of trials.  Hmm, yet we landed a man on the moon?

Another problem with your statement is that you make the assumption that life on Earth is the only life possible.  This is an argument from lack of imagination (sorry, I cannot put it any way that sounds nicer).

Yet another problem is laid out in what is called the ‘anthropic principle’.  Simply put, if the universe were such that intelligent life were impossible, nothing would be there to come to the conclusion that, “Hey, our universe is just right”.  I know I stated this before, but there are three possibilities for this:

a) The universe oscillates back and forth between big bangs and big crunches, with different initial conditions every time.
b) There is a megaverse, or multiverse, which encompasses all universes.  Sort of like tabs in an internet browser; each one has something different.  This is the same as ‘a’ except that it utilizes another spatial dimension instead of the time dimension.
c) Universes themselves are naturally selected.  This is a newer theory, and I’m not sure I buy it. but then again, I haven’t read much into it.  Basically, it has to do with black holes being created and the premise that similar conditions which black holes require are also required by life.  Again, I would never base an argument off of this one; however I think it deserves mentioning.

Any of the above possibilities would allow variation for the universe, and thus be natural selected by the perception of an intelligent living being.

Omega, there is a huge difference between oxygen and a deity.  First of all, not only can we not see the deity, we cannot touch, smell, hear (usually, unless you count the people to claim to hear God all the time…First, I would recommend trying to record the incident.  If it happens often and you cannot manage to record it, please see a psychologist) or in any other basic way.  Additionally, oxygen doesn’t answer prayers or any other task expected of Yahweh, let alone create universes or do miracles.  No, in that sense, oxygen is pretty basic.  We know many things about it, for example chemical properties.  I think it might even be possible to see oxygen under UV light, and even if we cannot see oxygen we have oxygen detectors.  Hey, light a fire, and if you can, we know there is oxygen there, and if you cannot, it’s possible oxygen is not there.  You will suffocate within ten minutes without oxygen.  Oxygen is in water, and it is possible to freeze the stuff too.  But you are right, we cannot see oxygen as a gas.

We cannot attribute the phenomena in nature to God, because we have naturalistic explanations for them.  Think of what we knew during the dark ages (when religion was dominant) about the universe, medicine, engineering, biology, and other studies.  I think it’s safe to say that, given today’s medicine, the spread of the plague in Europe would never have happened.  There would have been antibiotics and doctors who knew something about medicine, besides blood-letting to “let out evil spirits”.  We know more now, and I think it is safe to say slightly more than we would have known by faith.  Indeed, Edward Jenner would never have developed a Smallpox vaccine without the scientific method.

The reason we do not believe what we cannot see is that it becomes difficult, then, to determine what is real and what is made up.  Should we assign spirits to the clouds and the sun, and then complain when someone is skeptical of our belief system?  Science uses evidence to determine the way the universe behaves, from the miniscule quark and lepton, to the bacterium, to the nervous system, to plants, fire, computers, clouds, continents, solar systems, and time itself works (sorry for listing off a bunch of stuff, but it is all stuff which is either the product of science or is highly understood by it).

I would expect that every group of people (excluding some obvious ones.  You would expect fewer Amish fatalities in car accidents and electrocutions) is has around the same outcome when subjected to the same circumstance.  In other words, Atheists aren’t hit by lightning any more than Baptists or Muslims.  When people claim that homosexuality was the cause of the disaster in New Orleans, not to get into that debate, I have to ask whether it has anything to do with New Orleans being in a location you would expect to be hit by more hurricanes.  Sure, if it hit Salt Lake City, I might have to look into that.  But still, there is no direct correlation between “immorality” and disaster.

Rather than attributing that city’s apparent immunity to their prayer, might it also be possible that they sincerely had a medical advantage?  Why is it that as the credibility of an account proclaimed to be a “miracle” decreases with the (for lack of a better word) amazingness of that miracle actually happening?  Basically, it’s an inverse relationship between credibility size.  Additionally, why can miraculous behavior not be reproduced?  Finally, how much prayer is required to heal my friend’s amputated leg or bring my grandma back from the dead?  Prayer can supposedly do just about anything, so…

Finally, I would like to point out that, no, not all religions have the same values.  This becomes quite apparent if you look at the actions taken by the various religions of the world.  There were no ‘crusades of the Buddhists’ or anything like that, or a ‘Confucianism Inquisition’.  I usually don’t like to talk about all of the bad things which can be justified under religion, so might we focus on the faith trial of Abraham, a keystone to three major world religions?  So, as a test of faith, omnibonevolent Yahweh told Abraham to sacrifice Isaac, his long awaited son born when his mom was about 90, to please Yahweh.  Please note above for what I have to say about people which hear things.  So Abraham took his son, tied him up, and climbed up a mountain.  What a good son Isaac was, he didn’t squirm.  Abraham put him on the alter and was about to stab his son to death and barbeque him for the pleasure of a voice in his head (oh yea, it was before the ten commandments so he must not have known any better than to kill) when a merciful angel decided to inform faithful old (yes he was) Abe that is was all a test.  Never mind the serious mental harm, which we simple civilized folk call child abuse, it showed the virtues of faith!

If you find this story as appalling as I do (oh and if not, I can find worse ones), from a book that is supposed to be teaching us[/u] morals, you must have an outside set of morals, separate from those of the Bible, or else you would have to agree that this is how everyone should behave.

It’s a famous quote of unknown origin (to me), but: “Those who say that we need more religion really mean we need more police”.  I decided to add this because it should strike a tone with Libertarians like Trappin and I.  Ponder and disagree all you want, but I like it.

And for the FINAL finally :), if you, Omega say that all religions are the same in their morals, then to society, does it matter whether you’re Christian, or are you a Christian simply from indoctrination?  It’s something to ponder…
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Post by: Trappin on 9 November 2009, 07:22:52
People have always been disturbed by the story of Isaac's binding but pointing to the horror of what God commanded and then swiftly condemning religion and the people who choose to follow it seems shortsighted and uninformed. Casual dismissal is anti-intellectualism. Great men have pondered on this story. Kirkegaard offered three or four alternate endings while explaining Leap of Faith. French existentialist (forget name) explores Bad Faith which leads to Freudian concepts on the human mind. The western intellectual path of discovery travels through Isaac and leads to us.

I can't claim to understand religious faith but secular/atheist people do encounter a faith variant in daily life - romantic love.

Scientists can observe and manipulate magnetic lines of flux to our benefit but we really have no idea what it is. Science assumes many things that cannot be proven IE: magnetic lines of force travel in north south directions. Can't prove it but I take it on faith that science is correct. E=MC2 is such an abstract thought and concept that people like me take it as an article of faith that science is leading us down the correct path but it might as well declare god=omnipotent for all I know.

Modman: You are a mathematician right - Physics? Do you not see the poetry? Is the magnificent beauty and symmetry of complex formulae just a construct of our own minds or is it more than that? Just numbers we scribble? Many years ago I experienced an philosophical epiphany while working on a complex math problem - for a brief moment in time I saw into the beauty of it all, and then it was gone. That moment lasted no more than .0001 seconds but has remained with me for more than twenty five years. It didn't change my life or grant me supernatural powers. ;)

The paths of science and religion are not mutually exclusive but compliment one another and will lead humanity to a greater future. (all this from the mouth of a cynic = there is hope for the world after all)

edit: I have a response to Omega but that is later.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 10 November 2009, 02:52:23
I'm reluctant to continue this discussion, which will, of course, never end, but Modman is being a fool, and I'm still hoping he'll realize this.

Firstly, a question. Why is it that you think god does NOT exist? You have offered no proof on that note of why you do not believe in his existence. You have offered alternative ideas that could have happened (but again, does anybody know how the universe was created? Why the HELL are you wasting your time even thinking about it? Why are YOU trying to play god?!?), but no proof that he doesn't exist. You are a denier! You make excuses and try to find ways around things, even though your scenarios are no more likely than the fact of a deity. Can you possibly look in the mirror and think that you evolved from single celled organisms?!? Can you really not see the beauty and complexity of how the human body works? How much of it we do not understand?

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Rather than attributing that city’s apparent immunity to their prayer, might it also be possible that they sincerely had a medical advantage?  Why is it that as the credibility of an account proclaimed to be a “miracle” decreases with the (for lack of a better word) amazingness of that miracle actually happening?  Basically, it’s an inverse relationship between credibility size.  Additionally, why can miraculous behavior not be reproduced?  Finally, how much prayer is required to heal my friend’s amputated leg or bring my grandma back from the dead?  Prayer can supposedly do just about anything, so…
Jesus once said, "if you had faith the size of a mustard seed, you could tell a mountain, move from here to there, and it will do so." I guess you aren't faithful enough. Of course, you aren't Jesus.

And Trappin did have a good point back there. Many of the smartest, most powerful, wisest men are religious. Many scientists are. I am, many people I know are. Most were all wise people who were even professionals in their areas, yet they did not doubt the existance of god. How is it so many wise men can believe in something science can disprove (though, ironically, does not, and never plans to), yet a 15 year old (*you*) cannot?

Take a look at the world, at the beauty and complexity of it, and tell me that is not the work of a deity!

Without religion, there can be no life. Every great civilization has its religion. The romans did, the greeks did, the roman empire did, the muslims did, every country has a religion, and it almost always outnumbers the number of non-religious. For example, hungary I know is at least 75% catholic alone, and Canada is a 33% catholic alone.

BTW: a curious, serious question, what do the non-religious do with their dead? Funerals are generally religious, and the only people I know who have died (three great-grandmas and the world's best teacher) were all religious. So honestly, what DO the non-religious do? Just curious...

EDIT// I was thinking, the killer point: what is the reason of death without religion?
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Post by: draline on 16 November 2009, 06:47:35
There are only two canadians that i would absolutely consider hot. Teryl Rothery and Amanda Tapping.
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Post by: titi on 16 November 2009, 10:10:09
Religions/God/no God is a very boring discussion because it will never end!
This is a typical behaviour of mankind. Even lots of wars( all wars? ) are based on these religious conflicts. So please stop it. Noone will be happy in the end.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 16 November 2009, 14:12:38
Well, what do ya guys wanna talk about?
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Post by: Hectate on 16 November 2009, 15:37:59
Star Trek comes out on DVD tomorrow. Anyone get modern warfare 2? I want the new mario game for the Wii. I need a Wii first. lol
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Post by: Omega on 16 November 2009, 16:21:31
@hectate, I saw star treck in theatres, and it was GREAT. My dad wants it for Christmas.

As for Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2, I plan on getting a 360 version, but it needs to wait until after christmas, (it's on my list ;D) cause buying christmas gifts left me broke, and I still haven't got my mom her gift yet.

That new mario game looks fine, while 2D isn't my favorite, it does look good, but I prefer 2D games on handhelds. Galaxy is more my style on the Wii.

Here's my new topic: If you were going to program your own game, what would it be? Here's mine:

A classical style RPG game with a storyline comparible to the mid-number final fantasy's (ie: 4, 7, 9) and standard 2D-style graphics like the GBA remakes of the early final fantasy's. It would boast a very large catch of equipment, nothing special graphics (but classical style), tons of items, a variety of monsters, a very simple AI (randomly choose attacks and targets based on percentages), but full-style cut scenes in blazing 3D (blender videos, I'm getting good at that, already advanced to particle systems, etc;).

It would most likely use Irrlicht for graphics, since that's the best engine I know, even if mainly 3D, since I haven't heard of any 2D graphic engines that are free...? I actually plan to do this someday, though I doubt until at least after university, and probably a good 5-10 years in the future. I definately need more experience!

Your game ideas?
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Post by: JavaWolfPro on 16 November 2009, 18:36:22
Myne would be a Fps combined with a Rts but not using a keyboard or mouse instead  a sword or the wepon ur fighting with or building with .
It would be in  trible age and you hav to build ur own wepons in the game.  :)
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Post by: Hectate on 16 November 2009, 23:36:16
I'd like to make a remake of an old GI-Joe arcade game I remember. The characters walked forward into a semi-3D world. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jDYdBOaV4c if you're interested.
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Post by: JavaWolfPro on 17 November 2009, 04:21:28
PPl in wat time line is this server running :)
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Post by: Hectate on 17 November 2009, 06:20:07
It's a forum, you tell it what your time zone is and it adjusts everyone's time stamps for you. From there you just have to pay attention to see when it is that people get on.

I, for example, am in US Eastern (-5 hours GMT), and I'm usually on after my first job ends, since it's difficult to use the phone or computer to get here.
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Post by: JavaWolfPro on 17 November 2009, 12:05:13
Who here is from South Africa ?  :)
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Post by: John.d.h on 18 November 2009, 08:25:26
I'm giving a presentation tomorrow in one of my classes on image-based advertising, and we came across this video that we'll be showing.  I thought I'd share it with y'all as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru6p5NLXxvY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru6p5NLXxvY)
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Post by: JavaWolfPro on 18 November 2009, 08:35:12
HAHA i think u gone do gud
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Post by: -Archmage- on 18 November 2009, 14:14:34
That's funny, but weird......
Good Luck!
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Post by: Omega on 18 November 2009, 16:14:51
I'm giving a presentation tomorrow in one of my classes on image-based advertising, and we came across this video that we'll be showing.  I thought I'd share it with y'all as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru6p5NLXxvY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru6p5NLXxvY)

 ;D :D ;D That's WAY good!
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Post by: modman on 23 November 2009, 04:23:30
Ok, well I wrote this huge response to Omega with the discussion we were having before, and so I'm posting it.  And about this being a productive discussion, well, I don't think any (save one or two) replies here were productive to getting anything done.  So now I'll put in my two cents.  Remember, this was meant to go right after Omega's rant. :)

Again, enough with the “fool” thing.  I know it makes all Christians proud when they can find a verse which fulfills their absolutism-craving soul, but it is NOT helpful to any intellectual discussion.  We might as well go around spewing names out of our mouths, but did that ever get anyone anywhere?  No, to the best of my knowledge.

I think that God (by the way, since it is a first-person pronoun, I recommend capitalizing it) does not exist because the whole concept is unnecessary to explain the world.  No real scientist will conclude a paper with “goddunnit”.  That’s not science in any meaningful sense of the word!  Some people will retort that religion is about faith.  Faith!  What makes you think a deity would reward faith?  I don’t even think faith is possible, because the more you know, the more you have to trick yourself into not believing.  Should I trick myself into believing that evolution doesn’t occur?  I haven’t seen anyone yet who understands evolution yet doesn’t believe in it.  I know because they ask questions which are obvious to those who understand.

Second, it is in no means necessary to explain exactly how the universe was created, but just enough so that you don’t get bored.  Try reading Hawkings’ A Brief History of Time, and you’ll understand much more than I could tell you in a relatively short post.

Third, certain aspects of Yahweh are impossible, that is, incompatible.  For example, omnipotence and omniscience: Can the omniscient god find the omnipotence to change his mind, or the future?  There you go, a paradox.  Would you like another?  Where did our universe come from?  “Duh, God!,” the Creationist retorts.  Where did God come from?  “The Bible says God always was and always will be.”  And so it seems so very hard for them to understand that it is possible that the matter always existed and was not created, but they are convinced that God always did.  See the problem?  But that’s not all, because God becomes unnecessary once we’ve established that something always existed.  Additionally, I bring on the full wrath of the Ultimate Boeing 747 Gambit.

We make airplanes, correct?  Just making sure, and ignore your conviction that God makes everything.  Seriously, if God makes everything, then how come we only have had airplanes for the last century?  Anyways, we, the creator of airplanes, are vastly more complex than our creation, the airplane.  I think it is a fair assumption to say that everything anything created is less complex than its creator.  So, using that logic, we can predict that God is far more complex than the universe.  But…wouldn’t whatever created God need to be at least improbable if evolution doesn’t occur?  Bingo, because you only increase the necessary complexity ad infinitum.

There’s more!  You have previously extolled the unlikelihood of our universe sprouting about by chance.  Or of the chance of a bumblebee or baboon occurring by random assortment of atoms.  You should have read my previous post about why concluding chance is the only alternative to improbability is a false explanation.  It’s probably greater than the chances of a jumbo jet being randomly created from a pile of metal in a junkyard and a huge just of wind.  And you are right, it may be extremely unlikely.  But using God to solve your poly-dice problem only delays the real problem.  As I stated before, God is extremely complex, more so than any of his creations, or so you say.  Yet God would need to be at least as unlikely as the universe is!  God is the Ultimate Boeing 747.

You know why I think that theists are so wary to give up their belief in a deity?  It’s because they were told at a very young age that it was the truth.  Of course four-year-olds do not question such a complicated and heated topic.  They believe, just as they believe in Santa Clause, the tooth fairy, monsters, or the Easter Bunny.  Eventually, everyone lets go of these childish beliefs in the unseen (except in the case for Santa, because people do dress up) critters.  But what is interesting is why children let them go.  It is not (usually) through inquiry or investigation which these things are let go, but keep in mind that it doesn’t make it any more fake.  The reason is called ‘social proof’, the point at which it is no longer beneficial to believe in these things, when you lose all your (baby) teeth, or when mom says you’re too old.  The reason people don’t let go of religion is that their parents don’t.  It is not a normal progression of growth in religion to let go of it.  Additionally, you are led to believe with much more conviction that God exists, and no one questions you, except after consciousness-raising.  But the bottom line is money.  Of course, you don’t have to give money into the plate, but what kind of church doesn’t have one?  A poor one.  Let’s face it, the Roman Catholic Church has more money than any nation in the world.  This is mostly left over from the Dark Ages, but not totally.  I also seem to recall a passage in the Bible which recommended that its subjects pay 10% of their income.  Yea, and in the US, the church is tax-exempt.  So the church is going to do everything in its power to keep you coming, to brainwash you from birth with bible stories (and who can’t remember Veggie Tales?).  Can anybody say Discovery Institute?

My age has no relationship with the truth.  The truth value of my statements is not related to my age.

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Jesus once said, "if you had faith the size of a mustard seed, you could tell a mountain, move from here to there, and it will do so." I guess you aren't faithful enough. Of course, you aren't Jesus.
Hmm, you have correctly placed me within the correct two millennia!  But to get to your point, there was something called the Great Prayer Experiment, which I might have talked about before (can’t seem to remember).  Anyways, using a double-blind test, it concluded that the prayer has no effect, but the knowledge of the prayer does.  But you think you can move mountains…If you literally think you can move mountains and do other miraculous feats, why are there no famous non-disputed miracles?  Why don’t you go on national TV and “ ‘if you had faith the size of a mustard seed, you could tell a mountain, move from here to there, and it will do so.’ I guess you aren't faithful enough. Of course, you aren't Jesus.”  I know that was a low blow because nobody in history moves mountains by praying, but I’m tired of these insults.  Seriously.

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Many of the smartest, most powerful, wisest men are religious. Many scientists are. I am, many people I know are. Most were all wise people who were even professionals in their areas, yet they did not doubt the existence of god?
The answer is simple.  People do what will most benefit them, to save their own skin.  Galileo is a good example.  If you recall, he was put on trial for *daring* to question the Church.  Not only that, but he had no choice but to recant his statements.  After that, he was put under house arrest, after which he promptly died, a broken, sad man.  Could you imagine what they would have done to him if he had instead questioned the foundations of God like I do now?  I’ll leave you to your imagination.  Later, there were less severe punishments/consequences; they were mostly social, just like those faced if you dared to expect equal rights as a woman, proclaimed to be gay, or later, expected equal rights as an African American in the South US (admittedly not alike, but you get the idea).

A question: If not for your religion, would you murder, rape and steal?  I hope not.  It says a lot about you as a person if your answer is yes.  But if no, then religion must not give you your morals; they must come from elsewhere.

What is the purpose for death?  Why must theists always construct purposes for everything?  That’s like saying “clouds are for raining and pointy rocks are for camels to scratch their legs when they itch”.  Why do we die?  Because we are unable to live anymore.  Our heart stops beating and we lose oxygen, causing irreversible death.  What happens afterwards?  Um, what does it look like?  Think about it this way: you’ve been as good as dead for millions of years before you were born, so what makes you think it’s different afterwards?  You weren’t in heaven then, so…

Finally, Omega, do you notice the tone of this document?  It is less hostile, and I find it unnecessary to add formatting to every other word.  Speech that emphasizes many words when used in an intellectual forum is looked upon with skepticism, the same way that snake oil salesman are.  No matter how hard you yell, I still don’t want it!  This is a suggestion, and of course you are free to do whatever you wish, but this is how I view it.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 23 November 2009, 14:16:02
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Should I trick myself into believing that evolution doesn’t occur?

Evolution is a pile of bull-sh*t. I haven't seen you actually prove it yet, so don't use it to back anything up.



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I haven’t seen anyone yet who understands evolution yet doesn’t believe in it.

You don't understand Evolution, you just think you do... Have you seen the actual theory? Or have you just read a book that sugarcoats the theory to be believable?



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Try reading Hawkings’ A Brief History of Time, and you’ll understand much more than I could tell you in a relatively short post.

Let me guess, that's a sugarcoated Evolution book.



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God is far more complex than the universe.  But…wouldn’t whatever created God need to be at least improbable if evolution doesn’t occur?

That's very very arrogant of you. You assume to know that God had a creator, those "Gods Creator" questions are unanswerable by us, we have no way of knowing anything about how god came to be. Secondly you backed that up with evolution.



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Where did our universe come from?  “Duh, God!,” the Creationist retorts.  Where did God come from?  “The Bible says God always was and always will be.”  And so it seems so very hard for them to understand that it is possible that the matter always existed and was not created, but they are convinced that God always did.  See the problem?

God is NOT matter. So.....two unrelated things......and one exists but the other doesn't........ok, that's cool.



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Additionally, I bring on the full wrath of the Ultimate Boeing 747 Gambit.

What is that?



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We make airplanes, correct?  Just making sure, and ignore your conviction that God makes everything.  Seriously, if God makes everything, then how come we only have had airplanes for the last century?

And.....who said God makes everything?



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Anyways, we, the creator of airplanes, are vastly more complex than our creation, the airplane.  I think it is a fair assumption to say that everything anything created is less complex than its creator.

Let's take Air Force One in this specific arguement.

Air Force One, is equipped with amazing AI, the AI has the ability to take over the control of the plane, it will evade attacks and everything.
Watch the movie Air Force One, it's very good.



You know what......
Before we go on, we should debate "evolution", because Modman it backing up a lot of what he's saying with "evolution".
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Post by: JavaWolfPro on 23 November 2009, 14:33:31
Hey ppl were putting a team together  to reprogram glest to Java :o
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Post by: -Archmage- on 23 November 2009, 14:47:22
Hey, that's actually off topic.  :D
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Post by: JavaWolfPro on 23 November 2009, 15:00:49
this site cud do with a instant msg program on it    vote +1
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Post by: gameboy on 23 November 2009, 17:14:11
the existence of God is too much for our feeble minds to comprehend and so we make up weird theories that there is no God.
And who said God had time, With God there is no future and no past. Only the present.
Maybe you should read/listen to some real geniuses for a change, try Peter Kreeft.
God does not have to be created, He is God!
How did we make Airplanes? With materials provided to us from God, DUH!
And who said believing in God means not believing in evolution. Evolution isn't backed by any solid theory, its just a (as Archmage said) pile of shit. I for one, do not want to believe that my forefathers were half-wit monkeys.

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Post by: -Archmage- on 23 November 2009, 17:29:28
Well said gAMeboy! :)
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Post by: Trappin on 23 November 2009, 17:55:45
At some point the religion vs science rhetoric needs to move past alpha build version .002. Time to remodel, add new textures and rework the animations.. so to speak.

No one here is winning the argument. It cannot be won.
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Post by: JavaWolfPro on 23 November 2009, 18:55:04
o and gays i was cerius about the JDT Java developingteam Team  :)
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Post by: -Archmage- on 23 November 2009, 19:02:54
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gays

Dude, today the word gay is corrupted by homosexuals, it used to mean happy.
Although, I'm certain you meant to say guys, look for typos in your post before you post it.

Thanks for mentioning the team, but surprisingly enough it's off topic, it's related to Glest!
You posted off-topic!!! No just kidding, although it is off-topic, I don't care at all!
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Post by: JavaWolfPro on 23 November 2009, 19:10:16
did mean guys note i'm not english africans
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Post by: -Archmage- on 24 November 2009, 19:57:11
Hey, does anybody know a good way to make money at my age?
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Post by: JavaWolfPro on 24 November 2009, 21:09:44
Make models and sell them at turboSquade or were ever
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Post by: John.d.h on 24 November 2009, 21:38:03
Lawnmower?
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Post by: -Archmage- on 24 November 2009, 21:45:56
Java, thanks but I don't have the time to model anything to spectacular.

John, seriously...... ::) :P
True I could mow the lawn, but I already mow some of my Dads lawn when I fell like it, I don't really get any allowance, except for when I do something productive for my moms dumpy apartment, and even then I don't get much.........

I'm am a very hard-working kid. At least that's comparing myself to the other Kids in my area, who play video-games 24-7.
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Post by: JavaWolfPro on 24 November 2009, 22:32:05
if u hav big cap u can share files for money
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Post by: -Archmage- on 24 November 2009, 22:38:37
Big cap?

How would I get the money?
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Post by: John.d.h on 24 November 2009, 23:03:32
What, isn't that how kids make money these days?  Mowing their neighbors' yards?  I didn't think times had changed THAT much since the 1990s.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 24 November 2009, 23:13:59
I don't think I have ever seen a kid mow a neighbors yard, in my whole life! :P
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Post by: Omega on 25 November 2009, 15:43:34
The religion debate STOPS now! Moving on...

I want to sometime program my own RPG as I mentioned earlier, and set a goal to complete it within 8 years ;). However, now despite the code being 100% legit and proper, it isn't updating to display the images correctly. It won't show the new mouse image, but shows an old one that I long since perm deleted, and the background image is pixelated for unknown reasons.

If anyone wants to take a look to see if it works on other computers, download here (http://www.mediafire.com/?aqihznmw4xm). It is a 7zip package for the ENTIRE workspace, which does include a windows binary, so no programing experience necessary. If you want to compile it yourself or compile for mac or linux, you'll need to download Irrlicht and compile the three measly files, while changing EDT_D3D9 to EDT_OPENGL in the video driver code in main.cpp (or else it uses Direct X to render). It's very small, only three files so far, since I'm using programing in steps (where I do programing bit by bit so that it may be compiled regularily inbetween).

Just download and see if the exe shows the images correctly. If so, PM me so I know that it must be VS or my computer...

@Archmage: I make money by working at a nearby greenhouse. It's a lousy job and spring/early summer only, in high heat, for low pay, but there's not a whole lot of choices when you've only got a learners! This year I plan on working at my town's Rec Complex which is very understaffed...
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Post by: JavaWolfPro on 25 November 2009, 18:52:50
So i'm guessing u r programing C++
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Post by: JavaWolfPro on 25 November 2009, 20:44:18
I looked at it its but till were is it suppose to load because my only loads till end of the world then stops
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Post by: Trappin on 25 November 2009, 22:28:01
http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/empire/gorskii.html

The photographs of Sergei Mikhailovich Prokudin-Gorskii (1863-1944) offer a vivid portrait of a lost world--the Russian Empire on the eve of World War I.
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Post by: Hectate on 26 November 2009, 03:07:09
@ haven't clicked through yet (on my phone, no tabs here) but I think I've seen those before. Didn't he do color photos long before anybody else did? Neat stuff.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone (that will be celebrating it - North American I suppose)!
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Post by: Trappin on 26 November 2009, 13:55:47
That's right - Russian fellow.

http://www.fiftythree.org/watertower/
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Post by: hailstone on 30 November 2009, 01:40:36
I thought this was good advice and wanted to share it.

Quote from: www.stevepavlina.com newsletter #18
Talking about what you're going to do doesn't create or deliver any value. Nor does thinking about it. At some point you have to engage your creative energies and take action. Do whatever it takes to make a daily habit of creating and delivering value to people, even if you feel you're only able to offer a small amount of value at first.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 2 December 2009, 19:59:56
Generally speaking, how many mega-pixels does the Human eye have?

Does anybody know?

I do..........
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Post by: Omega on 3 December 2009, 00:17:42
Oh wow, good question arch. I was thinking about something like that not too long ago. Tell us!

I'll take a wild guess at 30+. I really don't know megapixels well.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 3 December 2009, 01:23:25
I want a few more guesses, please nobody cheat and look it up, if you don't know you don't know.

Omega, yes the amount of mega-pixels the human eye has is over 30, but I looking for a specific guess, and if you get within 5 of the actual number, than you win.......nothing but the pride that you almost guess right!
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Post by: Hectate on 3 December 2009, 02:07:45
From what I remember, the human eye can detect as few as 5 photons. Trained people are actually more useful for photon detection than any current technology.
Unfortunately photons don't translate into physical dimensions well. For size you'd need to know 1. size of area where optical nerves end on the cones and rods and 2. average density of the cones and rods.

I don't have a number but it's bound to be several hundreds, if not thousands.
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Post by: modman on 5 December 2009, 01:57:53
Here's a little joke.  I think it's pretty cute:

There was third grade teacher who had just become a born again Christian. She asked her class if any of them were born again Christians. Not knowing what a born again christian was, but wanting to please the teacher, they all raised their hands, except for little Sarah. The teacher asked her why she didn't raise her hand.
'Well I'm an atheist,' she replied.
'Why are you an atheist?' the teacher asked.
'Well my dad's an atheist and my mom's an atheist, and I'm not very religious myself, so I'm an atheist.'
'Well that's no reason,' the teacher replied, 'what if your parents were both morons?'
Little Sarah perked her head up and smiled then replied,'Well then I'd be a born again christian.'

Jokes?
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Post by: Hectate on 5 December 2009, 03:33:35
Well there's a story about modman I heard. ;D He always wanted to drive a big yellow school bus full of smiling children. Eventually, one day, he was hired to do just that! Wow was he excited!

So his first day on the job he shows up at the bus garage to get his bus. The mechanic comes out to greet him.

"Well, modman, unfortunately the bus we WERE going to give you is down for repairs at the moment. Here are the keys to the backup bus."

So modman goes out to the garage and the mechanic points out the bus to him. It's not yellow, it's a got Sesame Street characters painted all over it instead. Slightly disappointed, modman thinks to himself "Well, it IS a school bus anyway." The mechanic gives modman his list of pickups and wishes him luck.

Modman pulls out of the garage at looks at his list. The first kids are both Patty. Not too unusual, but odd that they're at the same street, so he heads that way to pick them up.

When he pulls up to the street there are two HUGE girls standing there waiting for him. He just stares in shock as they squeeze their way onto the bus and find a seat. Shaking his head a glances at his list and starts out to the next street. The next name on his list is Ross.
Pulling up to the street where Ross is standing he opens the door and says "HI!"

"H - He - Hell - Hello M - Mr. Bbbus driver sir." Ross stammers as he climbs into the bus. He shuffles over to a seat and sits down, drooling on himself.

A little more disturbed, modman looks at his next name - Lester - and starts off to the address to pick him up. When he gets there he is relieved to see that Lester seems to be a bit more normal.

"Good morning, Lester" modman says as the boy gets on the bus.
"Sup dude" Lester says as he finds a seat.

Lester was his last pickup so modman turns the bus around and heads to the school to drop them off - but in the mirror he notices Lester taking his shoes off and picking at his feet!

"What are you doing?" modman asks incredulously.
"Oh, I've just got some bunions that hurt a lot. I like to pick at them before school because the teachers won't let me."

Well modman is really disturbed now, but he's at the school so the kids get off and he parks the bus. Just when he finishes his phone rings - it's his best friend.

"Hey man, have a good first morning on the job?" his friend says.
"Well, not really."
"What's the matter? I thought you always wanted to drive a school bus?"
"Well, yea - I always wanted to drive a big yellow bus full of happy smiling kids." modman admits.
"So what's the problem?"

Modman replied frustratedly, "Well instead of that, today I got two obese Patties, special Ross, and Lester picking bunions on a Sesame Street bus."

(queue laughter or confused looks)
If you're the latter, try saying the last line fast, or googling up "Big Mac Jingle"
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Post by: hailstone on 5 December 2009, 06:56:06
From  aJokeADay.com

During the initial space flights, Nasa discovered that biro pens didn’t work under zero gravity conditions. To beat the problem, Nasa spent 6 years and $2 million in designing a pen for use in space. The pen would work under zero gravity conditions due to the pressurized ink inside, it would work under sub zero conditions, underwater, on glass and virtually any surface known to man. The Russians used a pencil.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 5 December 2009, 14:39:53
Nice one.

BTW, the answer was 137 mega-pixels.
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Post by: modman on 5 December 2009, 22:06:09
Why God never got a PhD
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1. He had only one major publication.
2. It was written in Aramaic, not in English.
3. It has no references.
4. It wasn't even published in a refereed journal.
5. There are serious doubts he wrote it himself.
6. It may be true that he created the world, but what has he done since
then?
7. His cooperative efforts have been quite limited.
8. The Scientific community has had a hard time replicating his results.
9. He unlawfully performed not only Animal, but *Human* testing.
10. When one experiment went awry, he tried to cover it by drowning his
subjects.
11. When subjects didn't behave as predicted, he deleted them from
the sample.
12. He rarely came to class, just told his students to read the book.
13. Some say he had his son to teach the class.
14. He expelled his first two students for learning.
15. Although there were only 10 requirements, most of his students
failed his tests.
16. His office hours were infrequent and usually held on a mountain top.
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Post by: Hectate on 6 December 2009, 07:53:50
I think that I've seen that before modman, good one - I like it.

You know who was the first person to break all the ten commandments at the same time? Moses.

You know you can tell it's cold outside when you see lawyers and politicians with their hands in their own pockets.

One cannibl looks at the other and says "Does this clown taste funny to you?"
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Post by: Trappin on 6 December 2009, 10:38:54
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The Russians used a pencil.

The graphite dust from pencils can be a problem if/when it interacts with electronic components. I worked for a US defense contractor in Silicon Valley and pencils in the clean room(s) were forbidden. The techs in the assembly area wore link free smocks and shoe coverings - I think the air was filtered to 9 microns -  the workers in the silicon-wafer doping rooms wore lint-free suits which covered their heads/hair/feet and the air was filtered below 9 microns. The ink based plotting pens used lint-free cloth marker head materials and the lint-free plotting paper cost about $5 per sheet ( 6 pack of beer cost around $2 US dollars at that time)

We built low noise 6-18ghz detected output GAsFET amplifiers. That technology is pretty old now but the clean rooms are the same.

During the siege of Baghdad - US warplanes dropped graphite type cluster bombs on power plant sub-stations - thus shorting them out. Baghdad went dark.
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Post by: Hectate on 6 December 2009, 15:42:02
Very informative. thank you Trappin!
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Post by: Trappin on 7 December 2009, 05:30:41
Unreasonable environmental regulations - Case study of tin-lead solder products.
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The problem of tin whiskers has new resonance as restrictions on lead have manufacturers struggling to non-destructively inspect these micron-sized crystals.

Tin whiskers are small and hard to detect and inspect. Typically no bigger than 1 to 5 microns in diameter and as much as several millimeters in length, they are small, but powerful; capable of short circuiting pacemakers, radar systems, fuses, relays and GPS receivers.

(http://www.ndtmag.com/NDT/Home/Images/0207ndt-whisker-ft-2.jpg)

In April 2005, a tin whisker, sprouting from the lead of the diode on a universal logic board that had too high of a tin content, caused a short. The short gave a false low-pressure reading that tripped automatic safety protocols and forced an unplanned, emergency shutdown of the Millstone Power Station, a nuclear reactor facility in Southeast Connecticut, USA.

Tin Whiskers can take many shapes, can bend and kink during growth, and grow to lengths that could be disastrous. Their length becomes a problem as they grow and come in contact with leads and short out electronics. This is believed to have been the cause of a range of product failures including the disabling of the Galaxy 4 communications satellite in 1998.


As can be seen in the Millstone Power Station case, lead is a key ingredient. Gedney says that while the tin whisker problem has been around for 50 years, it was essentially solved decades ago by infusing the soldering material with as little as 3% lead.


Fine, outlaw the lead in tin based soldering materials designed for public consumption, but banning industrial and military grade soldering products seems to be reckless and shortsighted.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 7 December 2009, 18:43:11
Hey, anybody who believes in evolution.

I dare you to prove evolution!
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Post by: Hectate on 7 December 2009, 22:25:20
Hey, anybody who believes in evolution.

I dare you to prove evolution!
Sorry Archmage. While it would be undoubtedly interesting, this conversation was ended by all other parties involved. In the meantime, who likes the mechwarrior games? Anybody think a mod might do well in that vein?
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Post by: John.d.h on 7 December 2009, 22:29:46
I just thought I'd share what I've been working on in my Internet Applications class:

http://eustis.eecs.ucf.edu/~jo514450/main.html (http://eustis.eecs.ucf.edu/~jo514450/main.html)

I think I'm getting decent at XHTML and CSS, but I know almost nothing of JavaScript yet.

In the meantime, who likes the mechwarrior games? Anybody think a mod might do well in that vein?
That could be fun.
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Post by: Hectate on 7 December 2009, 22:36:35
I almost forgot. I have 4 invitations left to Google Wave preview, should anyone desire them.

First come first serve, other people are aware of this offer as well (on other forums).

Email me at nathaniel (dot) mitchell (at) gmail (dot) com

and I will submit an invitation to the email you used to email me.

Update : one less, now only 4 left.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 7 December 2009, 22:50:56
Google Wave?
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Post by: Hectate on 7 December 2009, 23:11:51
Google it, haha!

2 Left!
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Post by: John.d.h on 7 December 2009, 23:14:22
As cool as it looks, I think I'll wait until they have some of the kinks ironed out and release it to the public.

Edit: Finally finished watching the video at http://wave.google.com/help/wave/about.html (http://wave.google.com/help/wave/about.html), and I'm extremely impressed.  It's like IM, blogging, bulletin boards, email, and wikis all in one.  Also, that translation tool... well, what can I say but "wow!"
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Post by: Hectate on 8 December 2009, 15:54:12
Just got another batch of invitations available it appears. 16 more available, so let me know if you're even mildly interested.

nathaniel (dot) mitchell (at) gmail (dot) com
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Post by: Omega on 8 December 2009, 17:57:43
Interesting... I'll try it out!

Just click the button under my name for my email.

~~~

John, the site isn't bad. I took a look at the source, and despite the obvious simplicity, it is neat and well organized, with plenty of room for expansion. The CSS styles are fine, though I would STRONGLY recommend you do NOT use the em measurement. Pixels are much, much better.

Still got some learning to go, but it is nice to see you can use XHTML Strict (I've always prefered transitional myself). Speaking of Javascript, I plan on making some tutorials and posting them with Triond, which I recently discovered, and after two completely crappy, almost useless articles, I generated 57 cents (for once, I want the american dollar to stay up...). Not bad for terrible articles. Now imagine something everyone wants to learn: REAL WEBDESIGN!
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Post by: Hectate on 8 December 2009, 22:07:48
Sent one to you. With yours and a few additional I currently have 13 invites left. Those of you who took advantage of an invite may also have your own set of invites when you get in. Feel free to offer them up as well. So long as I have invites I will continue to pass them along!
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Post by: Hectate on 9 December 2009, 02:10:14
Incredible video. Must watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ9YtJC-Kd8&feature=player_embedded
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Post by: -Archmage- on 9 December 2009, 02:33:26
That is definitely not incredible, what's so great about it, it looks totally rediculous and pointless...........
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Post by: Hectate on 9 December 2009, 04:05:28
its just so, bizarre and off-the-wall. I guess it just appeals to my sense of humor.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 9 December 2009, 04:50:36
That video seriously creeped me out.......
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Post by: -Archmage- on 9 December 2009, 05:13:55
Hey, has anybody designed something with legos that they want to share.
I believe that I have designed the worlds smallest and most powerful lego projectile weapon!

My Dad recently designed a lego car with front wheel steering using the "rack and pinion" method, I think his third car so far, he's also made one with a gear shift! :D

Anybody else design some good lego stuff?

Edit: Redesigned the ammunition for the gun, also ended up replacing the rubberband, now the gun has 2-3x the firepower!
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Post by: tiger on 10 December 2009, 05:41:46
download my game!
here (http://www.soft-haus.com/jacob/blog/wp-content/uploads/pixel_boy.7z)

Pics
(http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs056.snc3/14335_1255825046020_1541414237_663516_1020782_n.jpg)
(http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs056.snc3/14335_1255825086021_1541414237_663517_5469790_n.jpg)
(http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs076.snc3/14335_1255825126022_1541414237_663518_2376756_n.jpg)

COOL HUH?
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Post by: -Archmage- on 10 December 2009, 13:56:43
Neat, how did you make it?
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Post by: ElimiNator on 10 December 2009, 17:58:41
Using the ST (http://supertux.lethargik.org/wiki/Main_Page) engine. he made all the images and levels.
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Post by: tiger on 10 December 2009, 18:07:21
Did anyone download?
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Post by: -Archmage- on 10 December 2009, 18:08:20
Nice, but it's for linux only.......
I don't care, even though I'm on a Windows CPU, when I get to my Dad's I'm gonna play it!

@Tiger: I did, but I can't play it yet, because I'm on a Windows CPU.
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Post by: tiger on 10 December 2009, 18:18:03
ok
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Post by: ElimiNator on 11 December 2009, 04:26:57
Don't just say Ok...
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Post by: -Archmage- on 11 December 2009, 13:10:06
Don't just say don't just say ok.....
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Post by: Trappin on 12 December 2009, 01:17:50
Hectate -whats up with Eaglestone (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=4360.0)?
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Post by: ElimiNator on 12 December 2009, 03:25:49
Don't just say don't just say don't just say ok, ok?
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Post by: tiger on 12 December 2009, 03:29:59
don't just say Don't just say don't just say don't just say ok, ok?
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Post by: -Archmage- on 12 December 2009, 03:58:47
Don't just say, don't just say, don't just say, don't just say, don't just say ok, ok?
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Post by: John.d.h on 12 December 2009, 04:47:34
C-c-c-c-c-combo breaker!
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Post by: -Archmage- on 12 December 2009, 04:55:50
YOU B-B-B-B-B-BROKE THE COMBO STRING!!!!!! :'( >:( :( :'(
HOW DARE THEE COMMIT THIS VILE ACT!!!!!!!!!!????????!!!!!!!!!!??????????????!?????!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I will have vengeance!

Don't just.........break the combo string.....
Hea hea hea, aaaaalllllll riiight, take that!

 :D
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Post by: tiger on 12 December 2009, 06:09:35
Don't just say don't just break the combo string.
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Post by: Hectate on 12 December 2009, 06:18:11
"Just don't say" just doesn't say enough!
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Post by: -Archmage- on 12 December 2009, 06:27:12
Just say don't..........
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Post by: JavaWolfPro on 12 December 2009, 17:47:03
you guys hav alot of time to waist
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Post by: -Archmage- on 12 December 2009, 18:55:23
What are you talkin' about!
It takes only two seconds to make a post that as short as that, besides, I don't have to work all the time do I?
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Post by: Hectate on 12 December 2009, 19:24:39
Hectate -whats up with Eaglestone (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=4360.0)?

If you're curious about it's current status or condition, Eaglestone is on indefinite hold. This final post (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=4360.msg25834#msg25834) details my reasons for doing so. I did, a little while later, release the models I had created (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=4587.msg30239#msg30239) into public domain.

If you were asking a different question then I must have misunderstood your intent. Sorry for the delayed response. What with everyone telling everyone what they just couldn't say, I missed it at first.
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Post by: Trappin on 12 December 2009, 23:14:12
 I've been chasing old tileset and mod links for wikia updates but somehow missed the last post in the eaglestone thread - thanks.
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Post by: Omega on 13 December 2009, 00:02:50
Don't say... what?

Well, at least I didn't miss anything!

We obviously need something INTERESTING to talk about. Off the top of my head, here's the community question: What are your favorite books and movies?

Me:
Movies: LOTR, timeline, the bourne series, james bond
Books: the inheritance series (ERAGON!), terry brooks books (sword of shanara, etc;), Harry Potter, Dan Brown books (angels and demons!)
TV series: Corner Gas (saskatchewan comedy, recently ended), flashpoint (best show ever!), two and a half men, gary unmarried, lost, Criminal Minds: Behavior Analysis Unit
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Post by: Trappin on 13 December 2009, 02:15:31
I have current favorites and classic favorites.

Classic favorites/movie

Lawrence of Arabia
Dr Zhivago
12 Angry Men
To Kill a Mockingbird
2001
Patton
Platoon - despite Oliver Stone being a complete assh^le - this is a good film.
A Clockwork Orange
One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
Unforgiven
The Wild Bunch
Emperor of the North Pole
Lee Marvin in any movie
Clint Eastwood in Sergio Leone films - I prefer "High Plains Drifter".
Amadeus
LOTR trilogy
Planet of the Apes
The Road Warrior
Blade Runner
Star Wars: A New Hope
THX 1138
1984
Young Frankenstein
Blazing Saddles

And lots more..... ...
 
Old films worth viewing - may be tedious and painful affairs. heh
Citizen Kane
Metropolis
All Quiet on the Western Front - original 1930 version
DocuFilm: Triumph of the Will - pre WW2 propaganda film. Leni Riefenstahl, captivating and scary.

TV - don't watch much but:

Scrubs reruns
Stargate SG1 reruns
Deadwood
Anything by Rod Serling

Just finished Ebook -
Anabasis: The Persian Expedition or The March Up Country written by Xenophon.

Current books
Patton: Genius for War
The German Generals Talk: pre-Nuremberg trial interviews.

Next book to read:
Phillip K Dick: Ubix

I don't often read fiction since non-fiction can be more bizarre than fantasy. Though sci-fi titles do sneak into the list.

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Post by: Omega on 13 December 2009, 03:43:48
I don't often read fiction
WHAT! Go read Eragon or the Sword of Shanarra (and eventually, the elfstones of Shanarra, the best book in the series) and your tastes will change.

Then again, I suspect you must be middle aged judging from your movie tastes. Still, my dad loved the Shanarra series. Every guy should read it, one of the best fantasy series there is.
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Post by: Hectate on 13 December 2009, 04:34:52
Ubiq was an interesting book. Right now I've got (on library loan) two much newer books, butI love classic sci-fi. Other fiction comes in from time to time.

I rarely watch TV or movies, but I do like NCIS.

Edit: Terry Pratchett, 'nuff said. Also Douglas Adams and A. Lee Martinez
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Post by: -Archmage- on 13 December 2009, 06:42:34
I'm kind of near the end of multiple series I've started,  need to get around to researching where to buy to rest of the series, and what to buy....

Well everybody knows what I mainly watch......Star Trek.
I'm watching Enterprise right now, I've seen all the others, except the animated series.

I don't have cable, or any other TV connection, I watch DVDs and tapes.
When I tell people I don't watch TV besides movies and other stuff from DVDs and tapes, they flip out and wonder how I'm alive, and personally, I'm glad I don't watch TV, it's such a HUGE waste of time.
All TV ever wants to display anyway is cartoons, other various TV shows, "peacock" news, other news things, a bunch of global warming BS. So yah, TV is a complete waste of time.
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Post by: wciow on 13 December 2009, 23:16:45
When I tell people I don't watch TV besides movies and other stuff from DVDs and tapes, they flip out and wonder how I'm alive, and personally, I'm glad I don't watch TV, it's such a HUGE waste of time.

I rarely watch "live" TV either. Its generally loads of celebrity crap anyway. All the major channels here have free on demand internet TV so I can pick what to watch when I want.

Currently reading:
Stephen King - Skeleton Crew
Gore Vidal - Empire
F. A. Hayek - The Road to Serfdom

I noticed PKD mentioned above, the next book on my to read list is The Man in the High Castle.

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Post by: John.d.h on 14 December 2009, 06:45:21
I don't even have my TV plugged in because I so rarely watch it.  However, I grew up in front of a moving screen like most every other American kid in the '90s and early '00s, and when I do watch, I enjoy Scrubs and just about anything on Discovery or old-school Animal Planet (before they started with the pet stuff :P).  I think watching Discovery so much as a kid really reinforced my love of knowledge and learning, so I doubt I'd be who I am now without that.

I don't watch a whole lot of movies either, but some of my favorites are the original Star Wars trilogy, Willow, Cool Runnings, Impostor, and What Dreams May Come.  My all-time favorite movie, though, is a Chinese film titled "Gwai Wik", a.k.a. "Re-cycle".  I highly recommend it to anyone who doesn't mind subtitles (or who speaks Cantonese).
Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odPMBMCuWT0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odPMBMCuWT0)

As far as books go, I read so few of them it's ridiculous.  I have read only two novels since 2004, and both were very short.  The first was "Anthem" by Ayn Rand (great book) and the second was the book one of my friends wrote for NaNoWriMo (http://www.nanowrimo.com/).  I used to be a much more avid reader when I was a kid, and some of my old favorites are "Where the Red Fern Grows", The Prydain Chronicles, The Chronicles of Narnia (I've only read a few of them and I don't remember which ones), and "The Three Musketeers".

When I read "The Sword of Shannara", all I could think of is how derivative it was.  The group is even pretty much the same layout as The Fellowship of the Ring: warrior, ranger, dwarf, elf, two regular guys (humans instead of hobbits, but still :P), all under the leadership of a wise old magic guy.
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Post by: Omega on 16 December 2009, 17:53:37
I admit, I loath cartoons. For some reason, my dad seems to love cartoons, especially super hero ones...  :o
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Post by: Hectate on 16 December 2009, 18:34:23
John: I was going to participate in NaNoWriMo this year - I even signed up - but WAY too much got in the way. I'd love to be an author, it seems like the perfect job for my interests (or game dev).

Is your friend's novel online to read if he wouldn't mind? I enjoy new work, and it's good to see other people's styles. It may take a while to read (given that I also have 2 library books out ATM), but I'd get to it sooner or later.
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Post by: Trappin on 17 December 2009, 15:14:51
http://en.rian.ru/photolents/20091215/157245406_5.html

Maybe old powdered paint pigment or food coloring?
 
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Post by: Hectate on 17 December 2009, 17:13:59
if it wasn't for all the snow I'd say grass-stains! lol

Could be what you mentioned, or something else. Might have bit a can of spray-paint and then lost a fight with the subsequent paint spraying everywhere.
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Post by: John.d.h on 18 December 2009, 23:06:27
I just got a new camera, so I put some new texture photos up on burningwell.org for all to use.  If anybody has any specific requests, let me know and I'll see what I can do.  This isn't really off topic but I didn't think it was really worth starting a new thread.

John: I was going to participate in NaNoWriMo this year - I even signed up - but WAY too much got in the way.
Yeah, same here.  Well, I didn't sign up, but I was fully planning on it.

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Is your friend's novel online to read if he wouldn't mind?
I'll ask next time I talk to her.
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Post by: Hectate on 18 December 2009, 23:59:39
Is your friend's novel online to read if he wouldn't mind?
I'll ask next time I talk to her.
And next time I'll not assume it's a he - even if the word is the gender-undefined version of an already indefinite pronoun. lol
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Post by: @kukac@ on 20 December 2009, 11:17:07
Now try to imagine, that Hungarian doesn't make difference between genders :D
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Post by: Hectate on 21 December 2009, 00:51:01
Neat, that makes things sound easier. I will say that recognizing the gender of almost every spanish word is the second hardest part of learning it.

The first is conjugating verbs, yeck!
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Post by: Omega on 21 December 2009, 05:51:00
Wow, I myself am terrible at recognizing if someone is a male or female, especially with more simularities between genderly similar names (ie: sam -> I know at least three Sam's, boths guys and gals). Of course, it is a lot harder when you don't even know the name! ;) Then again, it's usually appropriant to use 'he' in such cases. It's the same way people generally can refer to humanity as 'man' even though that includes both men and women.

I never knew what this NaNoWriMo thing was until you mentioned it and I decided to google it. Interesting, but not for me. I tend to take my time and prefer a lot more than 175 pages (I'm planning something in the 400 range).

New 'keep-it-going' question to try and generate more posts on this topic:
 What is your current favorite(s) music artist?

I don't even have to think to know the answer to this! Mine are obviously Nickelback and Chris Daughtry! Speaking of which, have you seen Nickelback's newest music video: Never Gonna Be Alone? It's great! Nickelback is a Canadian band that's probably the fastest growing band right now, while Daughtry is just a bloody amazing singer (he was on American Idol some years back).
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Post by: Hectate on 21 December 2009, 06:30:19
Nickleback has quite a few good songs. On a completely different kind of music, "Tilly and the Wall" has some cool songs. Trans-Siberian Orchesta is really cool too. They just played in town this past week (Lexington, KY). If you've not heard of them, you need to look some of it up.

I also really like Everclear, but they've been broken up for some time now.
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Post by: Omega on 21 December 2009, 07:59:58
Wow, I guess I do need to do some looking-up. I've never heard of any of those bands!
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Post by: @kukac@ on 21 December 2009, 14:46:20
I also suggest Kamelot or Sonata Arctica, I think they write beautiful songs :)
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Post by: ElimiNator on 21 December 2009, 18:18:27
I hate song with words, spoils it for me. Just music.
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Post by: Omega on 21 December 2009, 18:51:00
I hate song with words, spoils it for me. Just music.
:o :o :o
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Post by: -Archmage- on 21 December 2009, 18:54:47
I absolutely hate any song with people wailing in it.
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Post by: John.d.h on 22 December 2009, 02:32:17
Some of my favorite bands (with links!):

Skillet (http://www.myspace.com/skilletmusic) (awful name, awesome band)
Rise Against (http://www.myspace.com/riseagainst) (alternative/punk)
Sever Your Ties (http://www.myspace.com/severyourties) (might make your head explode)
Inhale Exhale (http://www.myspace.com/inhaleexhale) (more screamo)
Family Force 5 (http://www.myspace.com/familyforce5) (interesting mix of rock and electronica with hip-hop influences)

I hate song with words, spoils it for me. Just music.
Hmm... interesting.  I've always thought the vocals were the most important part of any song.  Even if all of the instruments sound amazing, the voice can be what makes or breaks a song for me.  In fact, it's technically not a song without singing, but that's neither here nor there.

And next time I'll not assume it's a he - even if the word is the gender-undefined version of an already indefinite pronoun. lol
I'd estimate that about 95% of my friends are female, but I wouldn't expect you to know that. ;)
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Post by: -Archmage- on 22 December 2009, 13:13:22
Hey, anybody play Dynasty Warriors?
I'm thinking about getting the PC game, all I have now is a demo for the PC game and a game-boy advance version, both are cool, and done in the same but different styles. :D

The PC game has awesome graphics, somehow on the lowest settings but still with perfect graphics it doesn't lag on my Mom's CPU!!!

If you want, download the free PC PLAYABLE Demo (http://www.bigdownload.com/games/dynasty-warriors-6/pc/dynasty-warriors-6-demo/) and see what I'm talking about!
I really don't like the kind of music they use in Dynasty Warriors, but they use it in such a way that I actually love it! :P







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WTF are you god damn kidding me. Global warming is not a scam!!!!! Science proves it to be true as well as
1) Its heating up have you noticed or do you have the ac on.!!!!!!!!!!
2) The ice caps are melting!!!!!!!!!!!!
3) Everything thing is mans fault we do not help the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!
4) Carbons emissions destroy the ozone!!!!!!!!!!!
5) What the Heck you still want more proof!!!!??!!!



(Archmage's post)
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1) Its heating up have you noticed or do you have the ac on.!!!!!!!!!!
Don't have AC, in fact last year we had a record snowfall.



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2) The ice caps are melting!!!!!!!!!!!!
That is a complete and flat-out lie, that was obviously plopped in your head by a school.
People believe everything they hear at school, you'd be scared if you knew all the crap that goes through schools!



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3) Everything thing is mans fault we do not help the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is impossible for man to effect the earth like this!



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4) Carbons emissions destroy the ozone!!!!!!!!!!!
You know, I'm pretty sure that's a flat-out lie as well.......but I'll have to ask my dad, he's a bit more knowledgeable about Global Warming than I am......



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5) What the Heck you still want more proof!!!!??!!!
You call that proof?!?! Those are just quotes from dummies like Al Gore. :P



Any real proof?
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Post by: John.d.h on 22 December 2009, 20:46:06
Hey, anybody play Dynasty Warriors?
I'm thinking about getting the PC game, all I have now is a demo for the PC game and a game-boy advance version, both are cool, and done in the same but different styles. :D
I used to play the old X-box version.  I think it was DW4.  I always thought the music was funny, just because it tried to be way too epic.  Sure, the game is kinda fun, but not worthy of constant dueling guitars. :D

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<global warming rant goes here>
Okay, now you've both dropped down to the level of childish bickering.  Can we let this go already? ::)

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png)
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Post by: -Archmage- on 22 December 2009, 20:55:16
You call what you can't defeat childish..........
That's childish.
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Post by: Omega on 22 December 2009, 20:58:58
Very well said John!

Though I must admit I do agree with arch mostly for this one. Living in canada, I'm not so sure about melting icecaps, and every year is certainly colder than the last (we've missed four days of school in december, we've never had to miss school in december before. January and Febuary maybe, but december's usually milder).

Even if global warming DOES exist, then why are we to stop it. Science states that the world was once fiery volcanoes, then an ice age and whatnot. Why should man interfere with such courses of nature?

I'm not so sure about destroying the ozone layer. Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't. It's technically unmeasurable, so we can't say for sure that's the source of global warming. Then again, if the ozone layer is 'disapearing' why is it so BLOODY COLD OUT?!?
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Post by: -Archmage- on 22 December 2009, 21:50:52
Omega, there is no way we could interfere......
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Post by: John.d.h on 22 December 2009, 23:02:36
The ozone layer and global warming are two separate issues.  All that happens because of the thinning ozone is that more ultraviolet light gets through, causing problems like skin cancer and cataracts.

You call what you can't defeat childish..........
That's childish.
I wasn't trying to defeat you.  I don't debate with people whose arguments consist largely of "You can't prove that!  Whoever told you that must have been an idiot!"  You don't listen or consider other people's arguments at all because you're so convinced that you're right.  That's childish.

Besides, I honestly don't care if global warming is happening or not.  Either way, we're pumping toxic exhaust into the atmosphere at an alarming rate, causing things like smog and acid rain.  On top of that, when we buy petroleum, some of the money goes to governments that support terrorist organizations.  Like your gas-guzzling humvee?  I hope you also like murder, because that's what you're paying for.  Alternative energy is a must, whether global warming exists or not.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 22 December 2009, 23:28:28
You know, I don't know enough to combat you on that.

But I would love to learn more about Evolution, if you'd tell me......
Although I don't agree with Evolution, I don't know all that much about how it supposedly works.
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Post by: Omega on 23 December 2009, 09:59:16
when we buy petroleum, some of the money goes to governments that support terrorist organizations.
I support you so much for that John! This is why to buy your oil from Canada. Particularily Alberta and Saskatchewan. This is why I support Sask's environmental minister's statements at Copenhagen!

Besides sask is a major producer of resources, including potash (which is used to make high quality fertalizer, something very important for the earth's growing populations), petroleum, uranium (vital for the production of nuclear energy, though I do not support use of nuclear weapons. Fortunately, in Canada, there's very strict regulations surrounding nuclear materials).

Of course, I have nothing against being green. It is true that air pollution is bad for our health. While I've never seen smog, I'm sure that really large metropolitian centers may have those kinds of problems. Acid rain again, I've never seen, but I've heard of its affects and know that it exists. I'm all for going 'green' but my number one concern is the economy, particularily in my province of Sask. You see, saskatchewan depends HEAVILY on its resources as a large part of its economy. Restrictions,etc could be fatal for our economy, which is one of the fastest growing in Canada (We skipped out the recession here). As well, converting to cleaner energy sources would be very difficult, since the majority of our powerplants are coal, and we do not have very good sources for hydro power. A nuclear powerplant is being considered, but public support is only sublime. Solar is possible, since we get some of the most sun in Canada, but as usual, it leaves the problems with nowhere to put plants (since most of the south is farm land and the north is desolate, forested, roadless, and gets less sunlight). Of course, there's always costs. All of our current powerplants distribute power through sask energy, and rates do not need an increase!

I wasn't trying to defeat you.  I don't debate with people whose arguments consist largely of "You can't prove that!  Whoever told you that must have been an idiot!"  You don't listen or consider other people's arguments at all because you're so convinced that you're right.  That's childish.
Very well put. It is possible to win any argument based solely on asking the other person to prove it is/isn't true (or does/doesn't exist). Ever read Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows? There's a good mention of that scenario in that (great book BTW).

EDITED AFTER AN HOUR WITH MY FRIEND WIKIPEDIA//
Say, I'm sure that most (if not all) of you can agree that Google is the best company in the world, right? Well, I decided to look it up on Wikipedia and I'm impressed. However, the best part was this page on Google's hoaxes, particularily the famous April Fools jokes. I'm surprised how many there was. I'd seen a few, namely the Toilet Internet, the answer to life the universe and everything, Google Paper, and Google Autopilot (look up here (http://mail.google.com/mail/help/autopilot/index.html) now! Funniest thing in ages).

Honestly, check out the lengthy list of Google's comedic hoaxes. Read the whole page (yeah, it's kinda long) as some of the best are near the middle and end. Trust me, this is time well wasted!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google%27s_hoaxes
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Post by: -Archmage- on 23 December 2009, 13:29:41
I don't believe that Google is the best company in the world, they have internet bots that go around probing things, I saw one on another forum.
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Post by: Hectate on 23 December 2009, 13:42:36
Every search engine has bots now, it's how they find new content to file in the searches you do. They're not malicious bots, like as in a bot-net used by hackers for DDOS attacks.

That's why you can help or reject their indexing by using meta tags and other files to detail better what the content is - or tell them "do not index".
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Post by: John.d.h on 23 December 2009, 22:30:59
50 worst examples of video game voice acting (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulbotKa5LnM)

Yes, it's that bad.
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Post by: towcar on 24 December 2009, 16:05:24
Merry Christmas   (Eve)
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Post by: wciow on 24 December 2009, 17:15:11
I don't believe that Google is the best company in the world, they have internet bots that go around probing things, I saw one on another forum.

LOL classic  :D :D
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Post by: Mark on 26 December 2009, 00:29:05
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Besides, I honestly don't care if global warming is happening or not.  Either way, we're pumping toxic exhaust into the atmosphere at an alarming rate, causing things like smog and acid rain.  On top of that, when we buy petroleum, some of the money goes to governments that support terrorist organizations.  Like your gas-guzzling humvee?  I hope you also like murder, because that's what you're paying for.  Alternative energy is a must, whether global warming exists or not.
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I really have to agree.  I think both the US and Alberta should subsidize Alberta-harvested fuel for two reasons:  1) Canadians buy a lot more stuff from America than Venezuelans, mexicans, or Saudis.  So give more money (by buying their oil) to canada, it comes right back and helps us in the US of A.  2)Why would we put money in the Saud princedoms?  They have enough already.  Their domocile is in a country ruled by a a controlling theocracy.  It is hard to get in there unless you have very special papers, unless you happen to be a muslim.  Also, as John said, the Saud princes and the whole government has been linked to Al qaeda, the Taliban, and other extremist organizations.  Yet we buy a whopping 14% (can you believe it?!  That is HUGE) from Saudi Arabia.  Seriously, americans need to stop.  Now.  We should make our own or buy more from canada.  Also, we buy a lot from mexico, which cannot even keep corruption from everywhere in its government, and can't control the drug traders.
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Post by: Omega on 26 December 2009, 22:36:36
True its advertising features can be a bit abnoxious, but aside from that, it is great, and it hosts so many great apps that it is more than well worth it. Did you know that when they released gmail, it wasn't believed to be real at first, offering 1 GB of storage, since at the time, others only offered 2 - 4 MB!

I've never understood the worries over the privacy issues of things like streetview. Maybe they have something to hide (on an affair, are criminals in hiding, etc)?
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Post by: Omega on 27 December 2009, 19:01:53
Firstly, I appologize for the double post. I originally planned to edit, but seeing that it doesn't show the 'new post' thing for edits, this is necessary, especially since there's a new change in direction! ;)

Obviously, christmas just ended, so we should talk about our Christmas'.

Now, my christmas was awesome, for the most part, I got lots of gift cards, in total: $95 for future shop, $25 for best buy, and $50 for EB Games! That's a lot of video games! I also got windows 7 (which I'll install later) along with a number of movies.

But without doubt, the best gift we got was broadband internet! My parent's finally got satellite internet. Only problem: my dad refuses to get a wireless router. Time to think of an alternative. Perhaps buy a router, claim it's wired, but secretly activate the wireless. He isn't very technical, so that MIGHT work... Hmm...
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Post by: -Archmage- on 27 December 2009, 19:49:13
I got a super cool high-definition camcorder, some money, a coupon for a snow-tubing place, can't think of the name right now though.....a video, other cool stuff..........
Oh and I got a bar or chocolate, and I got a donation card that gave some homeless/poor family a flock of chickens to eat.
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Post by: Omega on 27 December 2009, 20:18:41
Not bad.

a coupon for a snow-tubing place
Tubing eh? Have you ever skied before? It is far more fun. Great sport.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 27 December 2009, 20:42:26
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Have you ever skied before?
Yah, hated it. I fell over immediately! ::)
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Post by: Omega on 28 December 2009, 04:29:47
Ah, hey, you're grading it strict. It takes some time to learn. Every year, my entire highschool goes on a field trip skiing (sometimes the only fieldtrip all year  :-[). The first time, I was terrible, and was embarassed to be seen skiing. The second time I did fairly good, but twisted my back on a fall. The third time, I was finally good enough to hit jumps and stuff, and hadn't fallen all day. Give it some practice and you might like it (the speed is amazing).

Anyone else have a good christmas?
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Post by: -Archmage- on 28 December 2009, 12:52:31
Well, I used to snowboard, I was good enough to hit a good-sized jump with ice at the bottom, and land it.
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Post by: Loronal on 28 December 2009, 17:32:03
Snow boarding rules. Though here in brasil I kinda prefer sandboarding. I snowboard and Im good enough to do black diamonds. I snowboard at sugarbush in vermont
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Post by: John.d.h on 28 December 2009, 21:05:46
lol Snow?  What's that? ;D

I haven't seen snow up close and personal in about 15 years.
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Post by: ElimiNator on 28 December 2009, 22:28:03
Ur kidin!!!
I have like 3 feet of it and its -35 to -40!!!
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Post by: -Archmage- on 28 December 2009, 22:39:41
I don't have that much snow yet, it just finished snowing.
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Post by: ElimiNator on 29 December 2009, 04:34:02
(http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs178.snc3/20568_1272271017159_1541414237_700021_5586179_n.jpg)
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Post by: -Archmage- on 29 December 2009, 12:58:06
I came from.............I came from a................I'm sorry I really don't know. :-[ :P ::) :D
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Post by: ElimiNator on 30 December 2009, 02:50:01
A rock, a monkey, a worm? come on guys I want to here it.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 30 December 2009, 03:16:10
Heaven......I guess.
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Post by: ElimiNator on 30 December 2009, 04:46:42
Ok so you think God made you right?, at least one person anserd me.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 30 December 2009, 04:58:14
I think I was created by a god-like being, yes.
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Post by: ElimiNator on 30 December 2009, 17:14:18
O, God like? what do you mean by that, are there meny gods, are there half god half man or can man become god like? ou dont thing there is one God?
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Post by: -Archmage- on 30 December 2009, 17:38:23
Who know if he's "God", I said God-like to be generic....
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Post by: Omega on 1 January 2010, 09:39:57
I come creeping out of the shadows to destroy eliminator... Ok, my real answer's like arch's, God.

Say, has anyone seen the movie 'Knowing'? I just saw it today and it was great!
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Post by: @kukac@ on 1 January 2010, 10:52:01
An another year has passed :) I haven't made a speech for the Glest community, but I hope you won't kill me for an ordinary "Happy New Year!" :D
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Post by: -Archmage- on 1 January 2010, 13:17:38
Knowing..............if I'm remembering right, that movie is pretty strange..............
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Post by: modman on 2 January 2010, 03:46:26
According to Genesis, from dirt we come, and back to dirt we return. (something like that...)

So I would much rather say I came from an ape-like ancestor than some dirt.

Anyways, evolution says we came from a ape-like creature; then it split, with humans going one way and apes the other.  So saying we came from monkeys is downright lying.  It's actually a strawman argument.  It would be like saying your brother is your dad.
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Post by: Hectate on 2 January 2010, 05:18:23
Sorry to interject, but saying that we didn't come from dirt is only marginally different than saying we did come from some form of early organic matter - which came from other elements - many of the same that are in "common" dirt or soil.

Yes, Knowing was a bizarre movie. It's like it wanted to be horror with a well-good-for-them ending. Meh, coulda been worse or better.

All About Steve was a good comedy, even if it was chick-flickish. My wife and I enjoyed it.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 2 January 2010, 05:38:39
Evolution is complete BULLSH*T.
Evolution is racist, evil, and you know what, why don't you watch the movie: "The Mysterious Islands"..........After you watch that you should be able to understand how completely wrong Evolution is.
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Post by: ElimiNator on 2 January 2010, 06:11:41
If you say you came form a ape like ancestor then where the ape come from?
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Post by: wciow on 2 January 2010, 14:50:38
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If you say you came form a ape like ancestor then where the ape come from?

The ape evolved from another creature which was slightly less sophisticated which itself evolved from a another creature and so on all the way down to simple chemical life. It is my BELIEF that this is literally true.

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It would be like saying your brother is your dad.

A good description of most religious fundamentalists actually!

(http://www.uberpix.net/wp-content/main/2009_06/religious-logic.jpg)
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Post by: -Archmage- on 2 January 2010, 14:53:41
Wciow watch: "The Mysterious Islands".
Or, if your faith is too great for evolution, then at least try to watch it.
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Post by: John.d.h on 2 January 2010, 23:31:32
Evolution is racist
A lot of things that are racist are true, though. :P
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Post by: -Archmage- on 2 January 2010, 23:35:19
But evolution isn't true. ::)
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Post by: John.d.h on 3 January 2010, 00:01:46
You've yet to provide any convincing evidence or arguments for why you believe that.  Calling something "bullshit" and "not true" does not count as evidence.
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Post by: ElimiNator on 3 January 2010, 00:37:16
Why, do you think that stuff is true?

And you want evidence,? you can have some if you answer me first, Where did you come from?
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Post by: John.d.h on 3 January 2010, 00:50:22
Where did you come from?
As with any prehistoric event, the most we can do is gather evidence of what we think happened, and make an educated guess.  Personally, I don't know where I came from, nor do I particularly care.
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Post by: ElimiNator on 3 January 2010, 02:26:55
Ok were do you think you came from then.
And were do you think you will go wen you die?
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Post by: assassin on 3 January 2010, 09:24:19
Anybody here read "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins? It was a very interesting read.

"The temptation [to attribute the appearance of a design to actual design itself] is a false one, because the designer hypothesis immediately raises the larger problem of who designed the designer. The whole problem we started out with was the problem of explaining statistical improbability. It is obviously no solution to postulate something even more improbable."

He also makes the point about the flying spaghetti monster, a fictional creation of the online community. He then argues that because no-one can disprove it that he should be able to worship it.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 3 January 2010, 15:07:03
Evolution has way more problems, and who said God had to be created.........
Besides, do you want me to start asking about how everything was created in your viewpoint?
I hope you all know that Evolution lead to Hitler, and the Holocaust.

You explain in the greatest detail you can, how evolution works, and I will point out every issue I can.
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Post by: Hectate on 3 January 2010, 16:51:49
Why don't you two have your discussion in private messages and, when you reach an agreement, post the results here. There have been several other off-topic discussions that have been flooded out of the thread due to the extensive posts on evolution, God, and other associated topics.

Now, who is going to get Starcraft 2? I sucked at the first but I've been intruiged by it... It looks awesome!
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Post by: wciow on 3 January 2010, 19:45:57
People should be able to talk about what ever they want to in the off topic section. The fact that this thread often has multiple conversations going on just highlights the need for a proper Off Topic section. Most forums have one because it helps to foster community by allowing people to talk about stuff other than the 'main' topic of the forum.

and no I'm not getting Starcraft 2. The first one sucked!  :P
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Post by: assassin on 4 January 2010, 08:14:38
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Ok were do you think you came from then.
I came from my mothers womb. People love the idea of coming from a higher/better place. Perhaps it gives them a greater sense of purpose.

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And were do you think you will go wen you die?
Um.. you die.. as in your brain stops and you cease to exist. All human conciousness is just a electrical/chemical reaction in the brain.

I hope you all know that Evolution lead to Hitler, and the Holocaust.
I find this:
A)Offencive
and
B)Wrong
Hitler was supposedly a Christian (Roman catholic to be precise), and what the hell did a Nazi regime have do with evolution?
and who said God had to be created.........
So your saying that something just existed? by itself? with no cause? Even Tomas Aquinas thought that god must have had a cause.

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You explain in the greatest detail you can, how evolution works, and I will point out every issue I can.
Well, normally, if you claim something to exist, you have to come up with the proof for it.

P.S: Starcraft is kinda sad. Have you seen those guys who play it for like a whole day non-stop?
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Post by: John.d.h on 4 January 2010, 09:20:40
I hope you all know that Evolution lead to Hitler, and the Holocaust.
I find this:
A)Offencive
and
B)Wrong
Actually, in a way he's right.  Look up "eugenics".

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Hitler was supposedly a Christian (Roman catholic to be precise), and what the hell did a Nazi regime have do with evolution?
Hitler alternated between claiming to be a Christian, and claiming that Christianity needed to be wiped out.  Sample quote: "We have no sort of use for a fairy story invented by the Jews."  Like nearly all politicians, he said whatever the audience wanted to hear at the time.  He opposed both the catholic church and atheist movements.  He didn't want his people to be loyal to any cause other than national socialism.
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1699/was-hitler-a-christian (http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1699/was-hitler-a-christian)

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and who said God had to be created.........
So your saying that something just existed? by itself? with no cause? Even Tomas Aquinas thought that god must have had a cause.
You're assuming that God exists within our understanding of space-time.  There's no reason to assume this.

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Well, normally, if you claim something to exist, you have to come up with the proof for it.
I second that.
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Post by: assassin on 4 January 2010, 11:52:52
I'm sorry, but in my opinion, there's a difference between believing in the theory of evolution and trying to control it.

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Hitler alternated between claiming to be a Christian, and claiming that Christianity needed to be wiped out.  Sample quote: "We have no sort of use for a fairy story invented by the Jews."  Like nearly all politicians, he said whatever the audience wanted to hear at the time.  He opposed both the catholic church and atheist movements.  He didn't want his people to be loyal to any cause other than national socialism.
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1699/was-hitler-a-christian
OK he wasn't strictly an evolutionist or a Christian.

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You're assuming that God exists within our understanding of space-time.  There's no reason to assume this.
Well, I can't see how something could exst without a cause, but I suppose you could argue that "god" just was.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 4 January 2010, 13:28:41
Well, where does Evolution say the earth came from.....

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Well, normally, if you claim something to exist, you have to come up with the proof for it.
I second that.
I third that, and you've yet to provide any proof, I posted the name of a movie that's loaded with proof.

Evolution led to an understanding that certain people were not as valuable as others, that's racist.
I think evolution is one of the reasons for abortion, evolution gives the idea that life is worthless!
Abortion is the MURDER of babies before they're born.

I have to say Assassin that I am offended by you saying sentience is just a chemical reaction, I know I'm sentient, I know I know how to 3d model, I figured that out because of my will to learn.

The Human body is a clear example of smart design!

The theory of evolution as I understand it:
A solar ray hits one of the sperm inside a male animal/Human and scrambles the genetic code, and then when he impregnates a female that little sperm gets to the egg first, and that female has some offspring that are different from the rest of it's species.
Now I really don't see how scrambling the genetic code would bring about any improvements.

You people don't seem to get how f*cking large the Human Genome is, if you put it in word/numbers, it would be at least 5000 times as long as the current distance between the moon and the earth. Now let's take the Glest source-code which is microscopic compared to the Human genome, so let's say you scrambled the Glest source-code. You really think it would be bug free, and have improvements! I think it wouldn't even run!

People have calculated what the chance is of the evolutionary process actually happening

So the way I see it, EVOLUTION CLAIMS THAT EVERYTHING I AM CAME ABOUT BY RANDOM CHANCE! That doesn't seem to add up for me.......

You want any more proof against evolution or are you going to back down?
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Post by: wciow on 4 January 2010, 14:58:38
You people don't seem to get how f*cking large the Human Genome is, if you put it in word/numbers, it would be at least 5000 times as long as the current distance between the moon and the earth. Now let's take the Glest source-code which is microscopic compared to the Human genome, so let's say you scrambled the Glest source-code. You really think it would be bug free, and have improvements! I think it wouldn't even run!

This is a blatant and rather lame straw man argument. The human Genome is not equal to source code. Also radition does not "scramble" the DNA, it may only affect one pair in the whole sequence.

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So the way I see it, EVOLUTION CLAIMS THAT EVERYTHING I AM CAME ABOUT BY RANDOM CHANCE! That doesn't seem to add up for me.......

If the sequence of coincidental events which lead to human conciuosness had not happened we would not be here debating the fact that it is so unlikely that they happened. (there is a name for this argument which i forget atm :) )

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You want any more proof against evolution or are you going to back down?

But you haven't actually provided any proof, you have simply ranted and then arrogantly told perople that they should take your point of view!

PS, my favorite quote about the internet:

"Arguing on the internet is like the special olympics, even if you win your still a retard"

http://img27.imageshack.us/i/logica.jpg/

http://img209.imageshack.us/i/disagreementhierarchy.jpg/
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Post by: -Archmage- on 4 January 2010, 15:51:28
I am providing proof, you aren't.
You people are saying that Evolution happened over a course of millions of years.
Got news for ya: The sun was 75 percent as warm as it is now not that long ago, but definitely not millions of years ago, when you people say evolution was occuring the Earth was a block of ice! I suggest you watch The Mysterious Islands before you continue this arguement.
The Mysterious Islands is about a group of people who go to the Galapagos Islands which is where Darwin got his answers about evolution, the problem is he got the wrong conclusion, and that's what the movie's about, people go to the Galapagos Islands and look at how Darwin got his answers.
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Post by: Gabbe on 4 January 2010, 16:23:46
duhh, a MOVIE PRODUCED PURELY FOR THE AUDIENCE AND THEIR AMUSEMENT is not proof, l.o.l ::)

proove that god exist lol.. im no christian so...

agreed that Human concuissnes is in fact a very large genom, controlled by electrical impulses.

evolution is true. maybe not darwins evolution, but evolution happened. saying otherwise will only proove that you lack intelligence...

Proof for evolution is everywere. if a human baby is born, will it then look exact like its mother or father? most likely it will be completely different. w0t? evolution happened?!?!?! reight here? omg? :o

realize? proof is on the table!!!!!!!!!!

look proof omg proof proof proof x bill times


proove me wrong if you can, no repl without proof thank you ;) pwnd ;
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Post by: -Archmage- on 4 January 2010, 16:37:17
You call what you just said proof, you obviously don't know much about evolution or genetics!(Or logic)
There is no way to prove that God exists except if you experience him yourself, or he tells you.
God is omnipotent, and omniscient, we're just Humans, but then you go into quantum physics........it's to far ahead to tell, we need to first survive Obama and his drones before we really make some progress in Scientific matters.
I can't prove God to you, but I can try to disprove evolution. The only problem is you guys have to much faith in evolution!
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Post by: assassin on 4 January 2010, 16:52:34
Back down? When hell freezes over (not that it exists  ;))

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I third that, and you've yet to provide any proof, I posted the name of a movie that's loaded with proof.
Yeah, I might watch that, I'm into comedies.

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Evolution led to an understanding that certain people were not as valuable as others, that's racist.
I think evolution is one of the reasons for abortion, evolution gives the idea that life is worthless!
Abortion is the MURDER of babies before they're born.
Great imply that everybody who believes in evolution is a supporter of murder. Nice one. Lot's of evolutionists are against abortion too, so stop trying to drag in other issues please.
Also the church isn't exactly nice the whole time either. For example, they are sexist because they don't appoint women to high positions. Also, have you heard about what went on with catholic priest and children in Ireland? Not nice.

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I have to say Assassin that I am offended by you saying sentience is just a chemical reaction, I know I'm sentient, I know I know how to 3d model, I figured that out because of my will to learn.
OK, your a chemical reaction which thinks it's sentiment. You'll have a hard time trying to prove any more than that to anyone else though.

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The theory of evolution as I understand it:
Or rather, don't understand it.

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A solar ray hits one of the sperm inside a male animal/Human and scrambles the genetic code, and then when he impregnates a female that little sperm gets to the egg first, and that female has some offspring that are different from the rest of it's species.
Now I really don't see how scrambling the genetic code would bring about any improvements.

You people don't seem to get how f*cking large the Human Genome is, if you put it in word/numbers, it would be at least 5000 times as long as the current distance between the moon and the earth. Now let's take the Glest source-code which is microscopic compared to the Human genome, so let's say you scrambled the Glest source-code. You really think it would be bug free, and have improvements! I think it wouldn't even run!

People have calculated what the chance is of the evolutionary process actually happening

So the way I see it, EVOLUTION CLAIMS THAT EVERYTHING I AM CAME ABOUT BY RANDOM CHANCE! That doesn't seem to add up for me.......
No, no, no, no, no. Your argument is somewhat typical of people who are ignorant of evolution trying to argue against it. Evolution is saying that life is a very rare occurrence (We only know of it occurring once). And then life changing in small ways most of the time. for example, a two inch longer neck might allow a herbivore to get at more leaves, making it more successful and having a better chance of breeding. Life has had billions of years to evolve into humans. If think about it, it's not so amazing that some form of "self-aware" beings came into existence eventually.

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You want any more proof against evolution or are you going to back down?
So your saying that I'm going to back down from defending one of the most important ideas in existance just because you swear about a lot?
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Post by: assassin on 4 January 2010, 17:02:30
You call what you just said proof, you obviously don't know much about evolution or genetics!(Or logic)

So your saying that the lies you've been told about evolution by people trying to "protect you" from "nasty evolutionists" are the truth about evolution. I'm actually sorry for you.
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There is no way to prove that God exists except if you experience him yourself, or he tells you.
Well then, I believe in the flying spaghetti monster. Try to disprove his existance.
 
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God is omnipotent, and omniscient,
Ohh.. Nice paradox.
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How can an omniscient god find the omnipotence to change that which he already knows?

Can God create a rock so heavy that even he cannot lift it? If he can, then the rock is now unliftable, limiting God's power. But if he cannot, then he is still not omnipotent.

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I can't prove God to you
Them why the hell do you believe in him? doesn't seem like thee act of a "sentient" or "intelligent" being to me.

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, but I can try to disprove evolution. The only problem is you guys have to much faith in evolution!
I don't call it faith. I call it certainty.

I am going to ignore the comment about Obama. I mean, the US get a good president who creats a more equal society and free health care and half of you Americans hate him.

P.S: Getting a ps3 tomorrow!
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Post by: -Archmage- on 4 January 2010, 17:10:02
Ok, it's hopeless to argue with you, you just don't listen to me.
Your faith is too great to sway, you call the truth comedy, you support Barrack Obama which is DESTROYING THE COUNTRY!!!

I will listen to your claims of evolution....if you can provide any real proof.
Like maybe, instead of saying your wrong tell me what you think is right.

Questions to everybody: HOW DOES EVOLUTION WORK? PROOF? EVERYTHING ELSE THAT COULD POSSIBLY HELP?
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Post by: Gabbe on 4 January 2010, 17:13:09
spaghetti Monster...

good one assasin  ;D

oh so f**ing funny ;D
but also, good argument :)

"nast evolutiosonists" great! your a comedy genius! ;D

Positive respond*
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Post by: Gabbe on 4 January 2010, 17:17:48
uhhh, haven`t i already told you how evolution work?

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Proof for evolution is everywere. if a human baby is born, will it then look exact like its mother or father? most likely it will be completely different. w0t? evolution happened?!?!?! reight here? omg?

well not completely different, but thas how it works, also. evolution works that the most adapted one gets to breed, causing a specie to change after different needs over million, perhaps bilion years ::)
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Post by: assassin on 4 January 2010, 17:18:16
Ok, it's hopeless to argue with you, you just don't listen to me.
I don't think we're the ones not listening. You have offered no proof whatsoever yet for god.

Your faith is too great to sway
If you mean I'm not going to listen to a twelve year old who is pretty arrogant about his belief without even giving the reason why, then you'd be right.

, you call the truth comedy, you support Barrack Obama which is DESTROYING THE COUNTRY!!!
That's right, I find these attempts for creationist Americans to justify what they only believe because there parents made them downright hilarious. And so creating a society which cares about poor people is bad is it? Hmm, ever actually read the bible?

I will listen to your claims of evolution....if you can provide any real proof.
Like maybe, instead of saying your wrong tell me what you think is right.
Interesting the way you seem only to be reading the parts of our posts which suit you.

Questions to everybody: HOW DOES EVOLUTION WORK? PROOF? EVERYTHING ELSE THAT COULD POSSIBLY HELP?
Having an open mind?
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Post by: Omega on 4 January 2010, 17:33:08
Ok, I'm going to end this right now and change the topic. Not because I don't like the discussion (I believe in the theory of CREATION, though there may be minor evolution of man and animals in the process [such as the advancements of man from the Tower of Babel to the CN Tower), but simply because this will never end. Believe what you will, but don't expect to change others.

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Ok, remember some time ago when I wanted to create my own game? Developement is well under way, but I need some serious testing. Firstly, here is the  very basic demo. There's only one level, a castle, and a town (as well as the overworld). It is by no means finished. The perspective of the battle system is likely to change, as is some graphics. You can only progress up to the point where you talk to the governor, and after that, nothing else is programmed, so returning to the cave won't do anything, however, it is fully functional up to that point. The cutscene with the governor is not complete, and is missing the change of scene, but that will come soon, and does not impare gameplay.

This is the END OF THE WORLD and you can download it here (http://www.mediafire.com/?4djnyogmqtj)!
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Post by: -Archmage- on 4 January 2010, 17:37:50
Omega, I thought you were an evolutionist.
I do agree that minor evolution takes place.
This argument must come to an end, one way or another.

I'm making an effort here, can you stop laughing and try to get involved!
You can't prove evolution, you can't think logically.
For you information I read all posts. I just don't know what to tell you.
You won't listen, I make efforts and all you do if sit on your butt and laugh! Respond logically! But you can't because evolution doesn't work so the only way for you to win is to use some strategy to get me angry and then complain about me being angry and end the discussion, I can tell you I'm calm as hell. I'd like to not be called arrogant when I'm just trying to debate something, and someone keep ignoring facts, and continues to force me to say things in different ways.

You evolutionists panic when you can't win, and you start to ignore as much as possible.
Could somebody please "explain" evolution, instead of just saying there's a baby and it looks like papy.

Assassin, is there any way that I can't get you to watch The Mysterious Islands?
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Post by: Gabbe on 4 January 2010, 17:40:57
nice video argue,,,

calm as hell... not rely calm? you seem totally desperate...

how can i explain evolution more than i already have done!?!? :o
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Post by: -Archmage- on 4 January 2010, 17:47:12
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calm as hell... not rely calm? you seem totally desperate...
I'm calm........just trying to prove some points.



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how can i explain evolution more than i already have done!?!?

What are you talking about?
You haven't explained it at all! ::)
I don't want the superficial crap, I want the core science that it's based on.
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Post by: assassin on 4 January 2010, 17:48:31
@Omega I don't thing this is going to stop. Make a separate thread for this an I'll use it. Archmage, there is no way I'm paying for some crappy dvd made up by desperate creationists. I will never stop arguing against religion as I find it deeply disturbing the way children are made to believe in god, rather than have free choice to think logically. I really am sorry for you, archmage, you clearly have had someone make you believe in god.
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Post by: assassin on 4 January 2010, 17:50:15
Core science... Um, people aren't the same as their parents?
Squirrels in America and Europe which have been separated for thousands of generations are now genetically different animals?
There are dinosaur fossils?
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Post by: -Archmage- on 4 January 2010, 18:02:57
Nobody made me believe, I chose to believe in God, for a time I wondering about
evolution, but evolution just doesn't add up.
Once you get down to the core science it doesn't make any sense.
On the other hand I have heard tons of stories of different things happening to people.
A scientist was traveling with two other people on a mountain, a storm came and they didn't have time to get off the mountain, all three were struck by lightning and they rolled a long way down the hill. This scientist was paralyzed from the waist down, and the other two were worse off. He met God on that mountain, his legs were fixed and he saved the other two.
I heard this story from the scientist. He didn't look half-paralyzed to me.
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Post by: assassin on 4 January 2010, 18:08:31
I love your idea of proof. Some crappy story that, for all I know, you've just made up. Also I don't believe that you chose to believe in god. Do your parents go to church?
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Post by: -Archmage- on 4 January 2010, 18:17:27
Nope, and I'm not going to take the shit from you!
If you knew me, you'd know that I don't let people tell me my religion or what to believe.
If I didn't believe in God my parents would be very surprised and my Dad would probably get depressed.
I have the right to choose what I believe, whether you believe that or not.
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Post by: Gabbe on 4 January 2010, 18:20:41
nice admit that you have ben convinced to belive in god, without proof, but okay, your stupidity
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Post by: Gabbe on 4 January 2010, 18:23:55
What makes you think god would care about a small little planet on the outeredge of a relativel small galaxy???????
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Post by: -Archmage- on 4 January 2010, 18:24:54
Cause he created it.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 4 January 2010, 18:27:37
Omega, I played your game. Nice, but why not 3D?
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Post by: assassin on 4 January 2010, 18:41:56
I think we should agree to disagree.
Sorry to hear about your dad, but you are entitled to a free choice in life.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 4 January 2010, 18:53:22
I do have a free choice.
I agree to disagree.
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Post by: Gabbe on 4 January 2010, 19:02:23
ok, we belive eachother to  wrong ina  right way ;)
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Post by: Hectate on 4 January 2010, 19:16:05
Omega, I played your game. Nice, but why not 3D?

3D isn't best for everything, plus it adds to development time and quantity of resources needed. Think, would pacman or centipede be any better in 3D?

I haven't played it yet but I'll give it a shot later if it's Windows compatible. Yes?

Oh, and what did you use to make it? I'l' want to know that sooner or later too. lol
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Post by: John.d.h on 4 January 2010, 22:33:53
Somebody say something about free will? ;)
http://www.lloydianaspects.co.uk/evolve/freewill.html (http://www.lloydianaspects.co.uk/evolve/freewill.html)

Okay, since you're asking about what the very core of evolution is, here goes.  In a group of organisms, some will have different genes than others.  These genes affect whether or not the organism will survive and reproduce.  If it doesn't survive and reproduce, then its genes will not be passed on.  If it does survive and reproduce, its gene will be passed on.  The offspring of these organisms will once again have different genes.  Some will survive and reproduce and some will not, therefor passing on different genes than their parental generation.  This process repeats itself ad infinitum until/unless the species dies out.  While the changes from one generation to the next are very smell, the changes over many generations can be much larger, like the difference between a human and an oak tree.

Here's an example.  Imagine there is some kind of deer-like animal, and some live on the African grassland while some migrate to somewhere in Europe.  Some of these deer have a gene (or more likely, a group of genes) that makes them fat, and some have a gene that makes them skinny.  Down in Africa, along come a group of predators who begin to prey upon the deer.  Most of the deer that have the gene that makes them fat are too slow and they get eaten by lions, so only the deer with the skinny gene survive.  These skinny deer reproduce and pass on their skinny genes, while the fat deer die and don't get to pass on their fat genes.  Now, the deer in Africa tend to be rather skinny.  Meanwhile in Europe, an ice age hits and most of the skinny deer die because they're not very well insulated.  However, the fat deer survive because they're insulated from the cold.  Now, the deer in Europe tend to be rather fat.  Even though both groups of deer started off the same, the African deer are different from the European deer.  Fast forward a little bit, and let's say some of the deer have a gene for small antlers and some have a gene for big antlers.  The deer in Africa survive by being fast enough to outrun the local predators like lions and cheetahs, so the deer with big antlers get weighed down too much and can't run very fast.  The deer with big antlers get eaten, and the deer with small antlers escape and survive to pass on their genes.  The deer in Europe are kinda big and fat to protect themselves from the winter, so their predators (wolves, for example) can easily outrun them.  This means that the European deer need a different way to defend themselves, so the ones with small antlers get eaten and the ones with big antlers survive.  Now, the African deer are skinny and have little antlers, and the European deer are fat and have big antlers.  From the one original group, we have two separate species, each with traits that allowed them to survive and pass on their genetic material.

http://animal.discovery.com/mammals/gazelle/pictures/gazelle-picture.jpg (http://animal.discovery.com/mammals/gazelle/pictures/gazelle-picture.jpg)
http://animal.discovery.com/fansites/ms-adventure/animal-in-you/animals/gallery/102.jpg (http://animal.discovery.com/fansites/ms-adventure/animal-in-you/animals/gallery/102.jpg)
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Post by: -Archmage- on 4 January 2010, 23:46:39
John, what you're talking about is "micro-evolution". When the species reproduce things change, yes, that's combining the genes that already exist, but getting a totally new species out of micro-evolution is not possible, no completely new genes get created, so the species will very a lot but no matter what, you will still have some kind of deer.
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Post by: John.d.h on 5 January 2010, 01:36:28
Guess what happens when microevolution occurs continuously over a longer period of time. ::)
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Post by: modman on 5 January 2010, 03:59:51
Guess what happens when microevolution occurs continuously over a longer period of time. ::)
We get speciation, which is evolution!

Anybody here read "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins? It was a very interesting read.

Yup!  Best book for atheists, hands down.

John, what you're talking about is "micro-evolution". When the species reproduce things change, yes, that's combining the genes that already exist, but getting a totally new species out of micro-evolution is not possible, no completely new genes get created, so the species will very a lot but no matter what, you will still have some kind of deer.

Eliminator knows this, because he is my facebook friend.  I continually post links to discussions between Ray Comfort (a TV evangialist, and a liar IMO) and Thunderf00t from YouTube.  I want people to watch these!  Tf00t eventually got Ray to admit that he had absolutely no knowledge of true evolution even though Ray had written several books on the subject.  Oh yea, and what was that that Jesus said when he tore up the temple?  Something like "do not dirty my Father's house with your money changing?  Ray sells his many books, including a version of Darwin's "The Origin of Species" with a trojan horse 40+ page intro whose text is twice as big as Darwin's, out of his house!

My opinion about free will is that it is impossible to tell if there is free will or not.  We live in reality, and determinism and free will are both descriptors of reality.  To test either would require that one leave reality, which is impossible.
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Post by: assassin on 5 January 2010, 09:11:03
Haha reminds me of the matrix..
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Post by: wciow on 5 January 2010, 09:58:00
Anybody here read "The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins? It was a very interesting read.

Has anybody read "The Dawkins Delusion". Its a very interesting book by two christian authors. The whole book basically attacks Dawkins as an overzealous atheist and hardly touches on his actual arguments  :)
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Post by: assassin on 5 January 2010, 10:24:50
Well, he's an easy target for angry creationists.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 5 January 2010, 12:20:14
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Guess what happens when microevolution occurs continuously over a longer period of time. Roll Eyes

John, no new species will be created from that.
Only variations of the same type of animal, no new genes are produced, only mixes of the old ones.
I believe micro-evolution happens, but obviously no completely new animal can be produced.

Do any of you know anything about evolution, or only about micro-evolution?

Hey, has anybody played Combat Arms?
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Post by: modman on 5 January 2010, 22:43:57
Evolution is complete BULLSH*T.
Evolution is racist, evil, and you know what, why don't you watch the movie: "The Mysterious Islands"..........After you watch that you should be able to understand how completely wrong Evolution is.

Creationism is complete BULLSH*T.
The Old Testiment is racist, evil, and you know what, why don't you read a book or two: Unweaving the Rainbow and The God Delusion, both by Richard Dawkins..........After you read one or more of these, you should be able to understand how completely wrong theism and creationism are.

No, no, I understand that calling hypotheses  names (or theories, in the case of evolution) contributes nothing to debate, and so I will present evidence, and then a logical argument.

Speaking of racist and evil... (http://www.evilbible.com/BiblicalIntolerance.htm)

Quote from: What Would Jesus Do?
A few other things about Jesus:

Jesus says that those who have been less fortunate in this life will have it even worse in the life to come.  Mark 4:25

Jesus sends the devils into 2000 pigs, causing them to jump off a cliff and be drowned in the sea.  Clearly Jesus could have simply sent the devils out, yet he chose instead to place them into pigs and kill them. This is called animal abuse.  Mark 5:12-13

Jesus kills a fig tree for not bearing figs, even though it was out of season.  Jesus must not be as smart as Christians would have us believe, for he was retarded enough to do something this silly.  You’d think the son of god (god incarnate) would know that trees don’t bear fruit in dry season.  Mark 11:13

Luke 12:47 Jesus okays beating slaves.

I think a very good question would be if you know anything about evolution, or only what you’re told by not-so-reputable sources.  I have had a high school biology class for one semester, although it was admittedly an overview.  Sorry to say it, but because evolution conflicts with creationism, religious leaders sometimes tell flat-out lies about it to small children who don’t know the difference.  If you want to know about science, go see a real scientist, not some over-zealous religious leader making money by telling Biblical mythology.  Do you seriously believe that Noah survived 40 days in a boat filled with wild animals?  What would the lions eat?  Better yet, where would the diversity of life come from?  There are 30 million species of animals today.  And where would the plants go?  Did they microevolve too?  The plants would need both sun and water.  Put them on the top deck and they would drown and not get any sun at all anyways (the sun don’t shine in the rain), but in lower decks animals might eat them and there would be no sun.  Did Noah have desk lamps?

Also, if you think all life came from two humans, you should think about that for a while; that’s some serious inbreeding!  By the third generation, there would probably not be any individuals capable of having another generation.  Let’s not even think about that; just draw me a picture of what the first human family tree looked like.

We can expect such ridiculous beliefs from primitive people, because they did not understand what was logically wrong.  Unfortunately for you, Archmage, there are more accurate facts now, and we can understand why all world languages did not form from the waving of a wand.

Also, would like an actual reply picking apart this post head to toe.  If there is one part you and others cannot refute, then we must assume it is true, or rather, you must.  You should have good reasons for your beliefs.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 5 January 2010, 22:58:40
I am not debating evolution vs creation although in some cases........
I'm debating evolution, and so far no real proof has been presented.

I'm asking for a logical debate and all you guys do is get angry and thrash at me with your crap.
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Post by: modman on 5 January 2010, 23:05:50
Your default is creationism.  The way you have it set up, if evolution does not seem likely enough based on the proof you see, creationism will win by default.  That's not an accident, and those videos you referenced were likely made by a religious group.

//EDIT:

What version are you talking about?  The ones on Wikipedia don't mention evolution.  Besides, it's my Jules Verne wrote the book in 1874, only 15 years after On the Origin of Species was published.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 5 January 2010, 23:20:47
There's another useless thrash. ::)

I think I ought to right a book called: "The Debating with Evolutionists Delusion" because you guys just thrash and thrash because you know that Evolution is hopeless.
If you think I'm thrashing I'm about to break out in laughter at how bad you guys are debating this. :D

Come on Eliminator I could use another person on my side so I don't feel like I'm the only rational person here(besides John, Omega, and maybe someone else).
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Post by: modman on 5 January 2010, 23:29:14
There's another useless thrash. ::)

Whatever you call it, it generally happens only when you fail to present any argument whatsoever, besides making global statements like "evolution is evil, racist etc".  Really?  Only acts have a morality value; ideas do not, and so evolution cannot be evil.

You have two choices: either tell us why another theory is more likely (that the evidence points to creationism, for example), or show that evolution is impossible.  Those are the choices.  If you expect to win the debate, you need to play offense.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 5 January 2010, 23:39:55
If I were you I would really stop accusing me of making bad/immoral posts. I'm just trying to get you to present something useful...
PRESENT SOMETHING FOR ME TO ARGUE AGAINST INSTEAD OF ALL THIS USELESS ATTACKING!!!
Then we will have something to debate, I mean really look at your posts, I'm asking for a logical argument, so please present something.
I'm debating only Evolution, Creationism now has nothing to do with this.
The debate is: "Evolution - True or False".
Present stuff like, a detailed description of how Evolution works, all the backup proof, you know...........EVERYTHING.
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Post by: modman on 6 January 2010, 03:21:36
I understand that you want an example.  In light of the fact that I am not convinced you understand the gravity of my previous comment, I will appease you.  The following is cut-and-pasted from a scientific website, http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/section1.html (http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/section1.html).

One of the most celebrated examples of transitional fossils is our collection of fossil hominids (see Figure 1.4.4 below). Based upon the consensus of numerous phylogenetic analysis, Pan troglodytes (the chimpanzee) is the closest living relative of humans. Thus, we expect that organisms lived in the past which were intermediate in morphology between humans and chimpanzees. Over the past century, many spectacular paleontological finds have identified such transitional hominid fossils.
(http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/images/hominids2.jpg)

Figure 1.4.4. Fossil hominid skulls. (Images © 2000 Smithsonian Institution.) (larger 76K JPG version)

        * (A) Pan troglodytes, chimpanzee, modern
        * (B) Australopithecus africanus, STS 5, 2.6 My
        * (C) Australopithecus africanus, STS 71, 2.5 My
        * (D) Homo habilis, KNM-ER 1813, 1.9 My
        * (E) Homo habilis, OH24, 1.8 My
        * (F) Homo rudolfensis, KNM-ER 1470, 1.8 My
        * (G) Homo erectus, Dmanisi cranium D2700, 1.75 My
        * (H) Homo ergaster (early H. erectus), KNM-ER 3733, 1.75 My
        * (I) Homo heidelbergensis, "Rhodesia man," 300,000 - 125,000 y
        * (J) Homo sapiens neanderthalensis, La Ferrassie 1, 70,000 y
        * (K) Homo sapiens neanderthalensis, La Chappelle-aux-Saints, 60,000 y
        * (L) Homo sapiens neanderthalensis, Le Moustier, 45,000 y
        * (M) Homo sapiens sapiens, Cro-Magnon I, 30,000 y
        * (N) Homo sapiens sapiens, modern

//End Cut-and-Paste

I don't have that much knowledge in biology, but astrophysics, so I may not understand what is actually going on.  But for me, this is the most vivid picture of evolution, and of common decent.

Even though you don't understand the relationship between creationism and evolution, I will allow you to pick this apart as you wish.

Since there is no real logic to pick apart here (what did you expect, this is science, not philosophy!  A creationism debate however, because of the lack of evidence, would have been philosophical) I will give another link to a bigger piece of evolution, from the same site:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/section1.html#chronology (http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/section1.html#chronology)
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Post by: -Archmage- on 6 January 2010, 03:59:18
I can't really trust any of this, there has been tons of fraud.
One thing that really "cracks Evolutions skull" is the fact that if it actually happened and could work, there would be tons of intermediate species, but there aren't!

I'd like it if we could hold off on the debate for a little while, we can get back into it another time, I'm modeling stuff, and also trying to do other stuff I've never done before, and having this on my mind is quite distracting.
I'd hate if we were to become hostile torwards each other elseware, let's cool off for now.

Don't consider this running away from the argument, I hope you'll understand.......I just think it's best if we cool off, and that I finish what I'm doing without making mistakes.
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Post by: John.d.h on 6 January 2010, 04:33:04
there would be tons of intermediate species, but there aren't!
Err... you mean like these?:

        * (A) Pan troglodytes, chimpanzee, modern
        * (B) Australopithecus africanus, STS 5, 2.6 My
        * (C) Australopithecus africanus, STS 71, 2.5 My
        * (D) Homo habilis, KNM-ER 1813, 1.9 My
        * (E) Homo habilis, OH24, 1.8 My
        * (F) Homo rudolfensis, KNM-ER 1470, 1.8 My
        * (G) Homo erectus, Dmanisi cranium D2700, 1.75 My
        * (H) Homo ergaster (early H. erectus), KNM-ER 3733, 1.75 My
        * (I) Homo heidelbergensis, "Rhodesia man," 300,000 - 125,000 y
        * (J) Homo sapiens neanderthalensis, La Ferrassie 1, 70,000 y
        * (K) Homo sapiens neanderthalensis, La Chappelle-aux-Saints, 60,000 y
        * (L) Homo sapiens neanderthalensis, Le Moustier, 45,000 y
        * (M) Homo sapiens sapiens, Cro-Magnon I, 30,000 y
        * (N) Homo sapiens sapiens, modern
???
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Post by: -Archmage- on 6 January 2010, 04:46:37
That confuses me as well, I don't know much about this area.
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Post by: hailstone on 6 January 2010, 04:51:29
Quote from: modman
read a book or two: Unweaving the Rainbow and The God Delusion, both by Richard Dawkins
Those books seem like a good read from what I read on Wikipedia. I'm curious if you have read any of the responding books (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_God_Delusion#Responding_books).

Quote from: modman
Jesus says that those who have been less fortunate in this life will have it even worse in the life to come.  Mark 4:25
I'm not sure that you have actually read Mark chapter 4 (http://kingjbible.com/mark/4.htm) (or the others). He is talking about parables and the foundation of understanding. Mark 4:21-25 is really a summation of Mark 4:13-20

Quote from: modman
Sorry to say it, but because evolution conflicts with creationism, religious leaders sometimes tell flat-out lies about it to small children who don’t know the difference.
People may use evolution to explain away a God and religious leaders may be deceitful because of their belief in creationism but I don't believe one cannot exist because of the other.
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Post by: JavaWolfPro on 6 January 2010, 06:34:16
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    * (A) Pan troglodytes, chimpanzee, modern
        * (B) Australopithecus africanus, STS 5, 2.6 My
        * (C) Australopithecus africanus, STS 71, 2.5 My
        * (D) Homo habilis, KNM-ER 1813, 1.9 My
        * (E) Homo habilis, OH24, 1.8 My
        * (F) Homo rudolfensis, KNM-ER 1470, 1.8 My
        * (G) Homo erectus, Dmanisi cranium D2700, 1.75 My
        * (H) Homo ergaster (early H. erectus), KNM-ER 3733, 1.75 My
        * (I) Homo heidelbergensis, "Rhodesia man," 300,000 - 125,000 y
        * (J) Homo sapiens neanderthalensis, La Ferrassie 1, 70,000 y
        * (K) Homo sapiens neanderthalensis, La Chappelle-aux-Saints, 60,000 y
        * (L) Homo sapiens neanderthalensis, Le Moustier, 45,000 y
        * (M) Homo sapiens sapiens, Cro-Magnon I, 30,000 y
        * (N) Homo sapiens sapiens, modern

wth ! First  how the hell do you there human  and there are only 14 found in the hole world so those cud just have misformed humans for al we know
and can we just stop posting  over such useless stuff . If you believe in evo then fine thats your pro and if you do well still thats you pro just get on with it already and get over it .
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Post by: John.d.h on 6 January 2010, 08:16:54
I never said I believed in evolution or creationism.  In fact, if you read some of my earlier posts, you'll find me supporting each.  I'm undecided, and frankly I don't really care which one is right.  I'm just trying to guide the discussion in an intelligent manner.  I don't think I'm doing it very well.
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Post by: assassin on 6 January 2010, 08:43:01
This is a waste of time. Archmage seems to ignore what he does not want to see, and only respond to parts of posts which are easy to attack.

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There is no way to prove that God exists except if you experience him yourself, or he tells you.
Well then, I believe in the flying spaghetti monster. Try to disprove his existance.

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God is omnipotent, and omniscient,
Ohh.. Nice paradox.
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How can an omniscient god find the omnipotence to change that which he already knows?

Can God create a rock so heavy that even he cannot lift it? If he can, then the rock is now unliftable, limiting God's power. But if he cannot, then he is still not omnipotent.

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I can't prove God to you
Them why the hell do you believe in him? doesn't seem like thee act of a "sentient" or "intelligent" being to me.

Questions to everybody: HOW DOES EVOLUTION WORK? PROOF? EVERYTHING ELSE THAT COULD POSSIBLY HELP?
Having an open mind?

, you call the truth comedy, you support Barrack Obama which is DESTROYING THE COUNTRY!!!
That's right, I find these attempts for creationist Americans to justify what they only believe because there parents made them downright hilarious. And so creating a society which cares about poor people is bad is it? Hmm, ever actually read the bible?

All stuff you ignored

P.S: Anyone else play tomb raider: underworld?
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Post by: wciow on 6 January 2010, 09:30:35
Everyone is bashing Archmage for his obviously sincere beliefs.

He may be wrong but live and let live  :)

If everyone had exactly the same ideas the world would be a very boring place. I'm quite happy for religious people to exist as long as they keep it quite and only appear once in a while to entertain everyone else with their rantings  ;)
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Post by: @kukac@ on 6 January 2010, 15:33:23
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wth ! First  how the hell do you there human  and there are only 14 found in the hole world so those cud just have misformed humans for al we know
and can we just stop posting  over such useless stuff . If you believe in evo then fine thats your pro and if you do well still thats you pro just get on with it already and get over it .

VS

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http://img27.imageshack.us/i/logica.jpg/

Talk is free. :)
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Post by: -Archmage- on 6 January 2010, 16:05:46
You know this argument has gotten so bad that I think we should start over........
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Post by: modman on 6 January 2010, 22:37:57
I think a better way to go about this debate would be to discuss a more specific topic.  These topics would preferably be objections to evolution (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objections_to_evolution), because someone who "doesn't believe in evolution" would present these.  By the way, evolution is not debated or questioned anymore in scientific circles.  It has been a fact for over a century.  It is just called a theory because that is what everything when it describes observations we make, for example similar-looking skulls.

A more specific topic then: Does the second law of thermodynamics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_law_of_thermodynamics) contradict evolution?

I hear this too much, especially from people who don't understand what thermodynamics means.  Religious leaders pick up on this, though, because it agrees with what they've been saying all along: that we live in a "fallen world".

Let me put it this way.  To understand the second law of thermodynamics is to understand why perpetual motion machines will not work.

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Post by: -Archmage- on 6 January 2010, 23:07:12
I have a better idea, lets debate the mathematics behind evolution.
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Post by: Omega on 7 January 2010, 00:22:40
God, you guys have made two pages while I was away. Now, can we please please please end this discussion? While I am a creationist myself (dunno how arch originally thought otherwise), right now, I'll let others choose as they will. Believe what you want, and I'll believe what I want.

I know that religion and the theories that acompany it are a well known topic for discussion and wars HAVE started (and are still going on) over it, but let's please push those differences aside and end this discussion, since this will not end if you keep going on. Religious discussions NEVER end!

Remember that I did make the topic and CAN lock it for a day or two if you guys can't be more civilized (though I don't intend to).

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Concerning my game (which is burried back two pages, thanks to this):

@Arch: My game is a classical style RPG meant for fans of Final Fantasy since that was a big influence. Expect a killer storyline in the final along with much changed gameplay. Note that I probably will change the battlestyle to sideview, though it would be much later, since that's a very big change!

The next version has Battle Backgrounds, various battle transitions, a few bug fixes, and a drastically changed balance system, since the biggest problem with the demo is that it is too easy. It also has the damage for enemies pop up on top of the foe rather than a dialogue box (great!). The storyline is the same as the demo, as this is demo beta2, but the changes are very noticable and great. I'd release it now, but I'm not at home... (BTW: Old saves aren't compatible with the new version because of something that was changed when the battle transitions were done).

I will need beta testers as developement goes. Anyone want to volunteer?
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Post by: Hectate on 7 January 2010, 01:10:14
God, you guys have made two pages while I was away. Now, can we please please please end this discussion? While I am a creationist myself (dunno how arch originally thought otherwise), right now, I'll let others choose as they will. Believe what you want, and I'll believe what I want.

I know that religion and the theories that acompany it are a well known topic for discussion and wars HAVE started (and are still going on) over it, but let's please push those differences aside and end this discussion, since this will not end if you keep going on. Religious discussions NEVER end!

Remember that I did make the topic and CAN lock it for a day or two if you guys can't be more civilized (though I don't intend to).

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Concerning my game (which is burried back two pages, thanks to this):

@Arch: My game is a classical style RPG meant for fans of Final Fantasy since that was a big influence. Expect a killer storyline in the final along with much changed gameplay. Note that I probably will change the battlestyle to sideview, though it would be much later, since that's a very big change!

The next version has Battle Backgrounds, various battle transitions, a few bug fixes, and a drastically changed balance system, since the biggest problem with the demo is that it is too easy. It also has the damage for enemies pop up on top of the foe rather than a dialogue box (great!). The storyline is the same as the demo, as this is demo beta2, but the changes are very noticable and great. I'd release it now, but I'm not at home... (BTW: Old saves aren't compatible with the new version because of something that was changed when the battle transitions were done).

I will need beta testers as developement goes. Anyone want to volunteer?

Thank you Omega. I won't reiterate anything from my newly created feedback post (! read it !) but I did remember that the battle backgrounds were looking odd from what I remember of my RPG Maker games. Anyway, I'm looking forward to seeing beta 2, and more of the story! I love RPGs because I love a good story. I hate RPGs because I love a good story (and hate having to struggle through a RPG to get to the story, lol). I'm not very good at RPGs in a general sense.
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Post by: modman on 7 January 2010, 01:46:03
I know that religion and the theories that acompany it are a well known topic for discussion and wars HAVE started (and are still going on) over it, but let's please push those differences aside and end this discussion, since this will not end if you keep going on. Religious discussions NEVER end!

Wars are more often encouraged by religious differences, but war is too complex to pin on religion alone.  Imagine how you simplistic you would think me if I said "The reasons for WW2 start and end at religion".  Not right, but partially; Hitler was Catholic, and the death camps were not, shall we say, "equal opportunity".  Anyways, are you interested in the discussion ending?  Generally, discussions are not given time to mature, to where false axioms are trashed and assumptions are questioned.

But religious discussions do end.  No one is disputing the mythological nature of Greek or Roman gods, for example.

Anyways, we were not having a religious discussion.  I tried to tie evolution to religion, Arch rejected that relationship, and for the sake of the debate, I allowed it.  I presented evidence, and we were going along quite nicely, although no one addressed my 2nd Thermo Law question yet.

Hopefully you used "theories" in the lightest sense, because a scientific theory needs to make testable predictions.

Believe what you want, and I'll believe what I want.
Thanks, but people do not "choose" beliefs, at least not usually and without great effort.  It is not easy convincing yourself of something which is false based on facts you have and observations you make.  Besides, that's a pretty good argument to do just about anything, no matter how barbaric, like headhunting, for example.

Now, can we please please please end this discussion?
We can make an alternate thread instead, if you want, but since this is off topic here, I don't see a problem.  Besides, who can argue with @kukac@?

Talk is free. :)
The man knows what he is talking about. :)  I agree!
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Post by: John.d.h on 7 January 2010, 01:50:48
What's wrong with headhunting? >.>
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Post by: modman on 7 January 2010, 02:46:46
OK, I'll start a new OT topic once Arch is willing to get back into the discussion.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 7 January 2010, 14:03:44
For the last time were not discussing religion were discussing.......the "science" behind evolution.
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Post by: Omega on 8 January 2010, 02:19:25
I agree with you a bit hectate. I think that story is the MOST IMPORTANT PART of an RPG, although I generally love everything (except some odd battle systems such as FF 2 or 8 [In FF 2, you leveled up the fastest by attacking yourself, and in FF VIII your had to draw magic from foes to get stronger]. That's why FF IX is my favorite game of all time, best story, classical gameplay, but at the same time, beautiful graphics, positively amazing for the PS1.

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Please, do not go back into that. It seems pointless arguing about religion because let's face it, we'd just be arguing until you guys get bored of arguing. Nothing will EVER be resolved.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 8 January 2010, 13:05:33
I don't think you even read my last post. ::)
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Post by: Omega on 8 January 2010, 15:44:26
It's not of religion directly, but it's based on a religious idea (so basically, it'd be an argument between religious [creation] and non-religious [evolution]). Interestingly, the the majority of the world is religious in some way, and of that, most believe in the same god (barring in mind that christianity, islamic, and judism all believe in the same god).
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Post by: -Archmage- on 8 January 2010, 17:14:45
Evolution requires as much faith as any religion! ::) :P
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Post by: John.d.h on 9 January 2010, 03:32:20
Okay, getting away from the debate(s), I have a problem that some of you experienced Linux users might be able to help me with.  On my Ubuntu system, I recently updated my headers, kernel, all that jazz, and when I went to reboot, it brought me to a GRUB prompt instead of starting up my system. After searching a bit for how to work GRUB, I managed to figure out what commands to use, but I still can't get it to boot to Linux.  Windows still works fine, though (as well as Vista usually does, anyway. :P).

>ls
(loop0) (hd0) (hd0,2) (hd0,1)
>root (loop0)
(loop0): Filesystem is ext2.
>linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-15-generic root=<???>
[Linux-bzImage, setup=0x3400, size=0x3b2e00]
>initrd /boot/initrd-2.6.31-15-generic
>boot

(loop0) has all my Linux stuff on it, (hd0) is of an unknown type, (hd0,2) is my Windows partition, and (hd0,1) appears to be a Windows boot partition, so (loop0) is the only one that I'm getting anywhere with.

When I try any other version of vmlinuz, it says "invalid magic number", so the 15 is the only one that has gotten me anywhere at all so far.

The <???> is the variable that I have isolated as probably being the problem. I've tried /dev/sda, /dev/sda1, /dev/sda2, /dev/loop0, /dev/loop1, root, /, and all possible permutations thereof.

All of them take me to another screen with something like the following:
Begin: Waiting for root file system... ...
Done.
Gave up waiting for root device.
Alert! <???> does not exist. Dropping to a shell!
(initramfs) _

So basically, I need to know one of the following


Edit: Okay, so it seems my hard-drive is in "pre-fail" condition and has 14 bad sectors, so maybe that's the problem.  Also, it only seems to recognize my Windows partitions as existing, possibly as a result of the aforementioned.  Sounds like I need to back up some files before the whole thing goes critical mass. :(
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Post by: ElimiNator on 11 January 2010, 22:43:19
I don't know what your prob is sory, but if any one has a link or two that show some sientific proof of Evolution i would like to see it.
And yes Evolution has a lot of holes in it so pepple just can ges. If you belive Evolution then again show me why you do.
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Post by: Gabbe on 11 January 2010, 22:47:52
:O back again, I WANT RELEGIOUS DISCUSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

i hate christianity, what does anybody say to me about that!?!?!!?!?


(also, there should be atleast 3 "off topic" post ;)
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Post by: -Archmage- on 11 January 2010, 22:53:42
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i hate christianity, what does anybody say to me about that!?!?!!?!?

That's why you believe Evolution!!! :D >:( :P

Like Elim I would like to see some nice proof.
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Post by: Gabbe on 11 January 2010, 23:14:36
actually that thread, was, and still is, a joke :D

It`s very funny see how this goes along, and when i think it through, i have not really made my descission for that i don`t belive in creation, but i have seen more evidence of evolution, and please, dont use such strange words, cause my english is well, but my scientific english, no ;)

I can disproove creation, but prooving evolution will proove to be a little harder, however, i will make an effort (for once) in this post!!
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i hate christianity, what does anybody say to me about that!?!?!!?!?

That's why you believe Evolution!!! :D >:( :P

Like Elim I would like to see some nice proof.

Proof is here now! ;) yey, hurray!

When a little cell reproduces, it will change a little tiny bit. when these cells reproduce, they will perhaps, and now im very theoretically, evolve so that there will be four cells, and two of these cells have similarities, making them a specie! Then the other two, will perhaps have similarities! Then you have 2 species. Considering this have ben going on for a lot of time, there may have occured changes, making all the species we have now!

I will now TRY proove creation, wich i don`t think will be succesfull in.

(this does actually have something to do with evolution, but it will be minor changes)

Think if the earth were hit by a asteroid. And then another one would. Consider both of them carrying tiny organisms. Minor changes could have happened. I think this is "Modern" creation science.

Also, anyone wanna disguiss whether aliens exist nor?
If not, then plz we need a disguiss about creation ASWELL!!

would be unfair only discus evo
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Post by: modman on 11 January 2010, 23:17:45
Omega, so you think that truth is found by what the majority thinks?  Think again!  Even though most people thought the world was flat at one point in history, that is now (hopefully) known to be false.  If you're still not convinced, check the Steve-o-Meter (http://ncse.com/taking-action/project-steve) for a list of scientists who support evolution.

If you were truely looking for proof, Arch, you would have read my post above, the one with the skulls, and "debunked" it.  Why is that not enough proof for you?  You have to have a reason, because the burden of proof is on you; you are making the assumption that there is no evidence for evolution.

Let me tell you the truth.  Evolution is no longer debated in scientific circles anymore.  It hasn't been for 100 years.  Evolution is a couple steps short from being a law, IMO.  But for now, it is classified as a theory.  The theories being tested right now are the proposed processes for evolution, for example genetic drift or mutation.

So I tend to get a little unhappy when I present evidence, which is, for the most part ignored.  Then, the topic changes and several posts later, the same claim is made that there "is no evidence" basically (it's the same as saying it takes faith, whatever.  However you want to word it...).  You have simply sidestepped hard evidence, not dealt with it.  This suggests ulterior motives, not genuine innocent interest in the truth.

//Edit: I will create another topic for this now.
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Post by: Gabbe on 11 January 2010, 23:22:30
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"Creationism" refers to the religious belief in a supernatural deity or force that intervenes, or has intervened, directly in the physical world. Within that broad scope, there are many varieties of creationist belief. Some forms of creationism hold that natural biological processes cannot account for the history, diversity, and complexity of life on earth. Such "anti-evolution" creationists have been leading opposition to the teaching of evolution since the 1920s.

For more than two decades, the National Center for Science Education has been opposing efforts by creationists to weaken or block the teaching of evolution. This section of our website offers articles about anti-evolution creationist movements, critiques of creationist writings, and collections of materials on the leading lawsuits over efforts to teach creationism or to undermine the teaching of evolution in public schools.

Please note: the term creationism as used in this section refers to anti-evolution creationism. For perspectives on meanings of creationism in theological contexts, please see the Science and Religion section.

Is this Creationism?
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Post by: Gabbe on 11 January 2010, 23:25:17
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In the biological sciences, evolution is a scientific theory that explains the emergence of new varieties of living things in the past and in the present; it is not a "theory of origins" about how life began. Evolution accounts for the striking patterns of similarities and differences among living things over time and across habitats through the action of biological processes such as natural selection, mutation, symbiosis, gene transfer, and genetic drift. Evolution has been subjected to scientific testing for over a century and has been (and continues to be) consistently confirmed by evidence from a wide range of fields.

The National Center for Science Education is the only national organization devoted to defending the teaching of evolution in public schools. This mission is vital because of evolution's central importance to the conceptual foundations of the modern biomedical, life, and earth sciences.

And this Evolution?

Soz doubled
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Post by: John.d.h on 12 January 2010, 00:12:54
That's the general idea of each, Gabbe.  Basically, creationism is the belief that life exists because it was created by God or some god-like force.  Evolution is the idea that life exists because of natural processes that are NOT caused by God or a god-like force.  The third approach is called intelligent design, which is in the middle.  It basically says that life exists and develops by evolution, but also the process is guided by God or some god-like force.
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Post by: modman on 12 January 2010, 00:37:16
I have to disagree.  Intelligent design is a trojan horse for creationism, and a poor one at that.  A closer look at the creationism/evolution debate history, especially the court ruling that creationism was not science.  Surprise!  A whole new science, now!  Empirically, this doesn't look good for ID, because if it were true science, without even looking at its specifics, its birth would have been independent of Judge Jones' ruling.

Omega and I would both appreciate that this discussion be transported to another topic (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=4927.0).
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Post by: Omega on 13 January 2010, 02:38:50
I'd thank you modman, but the link seems to be broken.
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Post by: John.d.h on 13 January 2010, 02:43:30
Nah, somebody just nuked the topic.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 13 January 2010, 03:22:34
Yah, I wish people would let us get going, somebody "nuked it" as John said.
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Post by: Omega on 14 January 2010, 01:12:16
Interesting word choice. Also interesting, I can only think of two active people with that kind of power: Kukac and titi...

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Moving on in this topic, I have a serious question: Why is it that terrorists seem to dislike the US so much? I am not well versed in american history, and of that, I know primarily civil war and earlier history, nothing more recent. I know that the wars in Iraq and afganistan happened AFTER 9/11, so what is it that made terrorists want to target the US so much (other than the fact they had Bush as a president and the stupidest supreme court in the world)?
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Post by: ElimiNator on 14 January 2010, 02:33:11
I think the government did the 9-11.
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Post by: John.d.h on 14 January 2010, 02:46:51
Regarding the terrorism thing, I think it's because they see us as the biggest "threat" against Islam in the world.  With our hypocritical combination of being a so-called Christian nation and our greed, corruption, and moral bankruptcy, we're a double threat.  In their minds, half of us are trying to convert them to Christianity and half of us are trying to sell them booze and porn.

I think the government did the 9-11.
So basically you'll believe a conspiracy that has only the absolute most circumstantial evidence (government did 9-11), but not an established scientific phenomenon that's been observed and recorded for decades (global climate change)?  That's cool, man.


Edit: Check out what I just found.  This is probably old news to some of you, but check out the image in the four row, first column. :)

http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/items/free_games/index.php?lang= (http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/items/free_games/index.php?lang=)
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Post by: hailstone on 14 January 2010, 07:05:43
Pingus? I found Glest on third row second column.  ;D The 24 screen setup looks nice interesting - I probably wouldn't have it for everyday use.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 14 January 2010, 12:25:14
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but not an established scientific phenomenon that's been observed and recorded for decades (global climate change
That is not scientific, and it's a pack of fraud so Al Gore can play hero. All the real stuff that's not what Al Gore promotes and defends, points to another Ice Age!
Before an Ice Age, there is a period of warming. :P
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Post by: John.d.h on 14 January 2010, 22:51:32
Hate to break it to you, but climate change had been established long before Al Gore became relevant.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 14 January 2010, 23:06:12
Hate to break it to yah, but climate change is fraud.
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Post by: John.d.h on 14 January 2010, 23:13:30
Were you planning on backing that up with... oh, I don't know... evidence or something?
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Post by: wciow on 15 January 2010, 00:26:37
@ Eliminator
The US goverment did 911 LOL Strangely enough I would have an easier time beliving that Elvis shot JFK than that 911 was a government conspiracy. At least the former conspiracy is even slightly possible.

Re: Climate change

I'm personally a climate change agnostic, I simply don't know enough about the subject to gather my own evidence and any scientific subject which has such a heavy involvement from politics is untrustworthy IMHO.

BTW John re: "decades of evidence" for climate change. 35 Years ago leading scietists were telling us to prepare for a new ice age!

Re: Terrorism,  I read an interesting comment the other day along the lines that we ('the west') attempt to engage Islam with liberal argument 'I dislike what you say but defend your right to say it' and Christian values 'turn the other cheek, love thy neighbour'. Islam understands and respects neither. They rule through fear and achieve power through violence.

BTW I would much prefer some beer and porn to beheadings and enforced balaclava wearing.
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Post by: Trappin on 15 January 2010, 01:12:59
Quote from: wciow

Re: Terrorism,  I read an interesting comment the other day along the lines that we ('the west') attempt to engage Islam with liberal argument 'I dislike what you say but defend your right to say it' and Christian values 'turn the other cheek, love thy neighbour'. Islam understands and respects neither. They rule through fear and achieve power through violence.

Haiti was struck by a massive earthquake and is in dire need of help. What have the wealthy middle eastern countries sent? nothing. Big mouth Hugo Chavaz of Venezuela? nothing. China? India? Russia? Brazil?

America?
(http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/webphoto/web_090716-F-7923S-424.jpg)

and

(http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/webphoto/web_090711-N-6070S-506.jpg)
The aircraft carrier USS Carl Vinson

USS Visnon is able to distill thousand of gallons of saltwater into potable fresh water daily.

MAYPORT, Fla. (NNS) -- USS Carl Vinson (CVN 70) has been ordered to deploy to Haiti to conduct Humanitarian Assistance/Disaster Response (HA/DR) missions Jan. 13. Currently, Vinson is underway in the Atlantic Ocean, and will briefly loiter off the coast of Mayport to receive equipment and supplies.

Along with Vinson, USS Bataan (LHD 5) embarked with Marines from the 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit (MEU 22), USS Fort McHenry (LSD 43), and USS Carter Hall (LSD 50) were ordered to get underway as soon as possible. Additionally, USS Normandy (CG 60) and USS Underwood (FFG 36) will deploy from their homeports and stand ready to assist, while USNS Comfort (T-AH-20), homeported in Baltimore, Md., is preparing to get underway, if required.

A Navy P-3 Orion aircraft from the Patrol Squadron (VP) 26 detachment operating from Cooperative Security Location (CSL) Comalapa, El Salvador, took off early this morning to conduct aerial surveys of the area affected by the earthquake.

USS Higgins (DDG 76) based out of Naval Station San Diego will arrive on station off the coast of Haiti tomorrow to provide afloat logistical services for the Coast Guard helicopters.


Additionally, various units are prepared to provide assistance with sea-based helicopters, to include H-53 Sea Stallions and H-60 Seahawks.


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Post by: hailstone on 16 January 2010, 01:13:10
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The US goverment did 911 LOL Strangely enough I would have an easier time beliving that Elvis shot JFK than that 911 was a government conspiracy. At least the former conspiracy is even slightly possible.
Are you saying the US government doesn't have the means to demolish 2 buildings and buy planes? You didn't say why it wasn't possible.
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Post by: Omega on 17 January 2010, 01:46:00
Yes, that is very true Trappin. Of course, Hati is in the western hemisphere, yet that didn't stop Europe from helping. Of course Canada's donations have surged a massive 1200% since day one, and the national news today seemed to be about 2/3 Hati. Of course, it doesn't hurt that the governor general is from Hati, and that a Police Officer died there...

@Climate Change: I believe that there is a small degree of climate change, but I don't necessarily believe it is getting warmer or colder. Here's my prove to my facts, taken from various reliable news sources as well as my own eyes. I believe that the climate is very VOLATILE and can change at any moment. For example, today can be sunny and tomorrow can be rainy. Is that not change? Yet, I don't think anyone believes that man has power over that, so why believe that man is affecting the climate in other ways (with the natural exception of air pollution causing acid rain or smog). Another example, Florida FROZE! I laughed so hard when I saw the noobs in florida having trouble with the weather. Today, the news showed a big freeze in China, where the water is frozen and stuff. While at the same time, here in Saskatchewan, we've hit as high as 1-5 degrees celsius, even with an average temperature of -15 at this time of the year, and less snow than average. BC has been hit with a Pinapple Express, giving rain (uh oh, that's not good for a city that's hosting the Olympics next month).
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Post by: John.d.h on 17 January 2010, 23:38:10
Another example, Florida FROZE! I laughed so hard when I saw the noobs in florida having trouble with the weather.
Honestly, that's one of the biggest examples of why I think climate change IS happening.  I've lived in Florida for about 14 years and I have never seen a cold snap even remotely close to that.  Just looking around my area, there is more dead vegetation than I can ever remember seeing before at any point in my life.  Records were broken that hadn't been even remotely approximated since the 1800s.  This goes a long way to demonstrate the effects of climate change because, in Florida, this DOES NOT HAPPEN.  When something happens to trip up the cycle of the global climate, things get all out of rhythm.  It isn't just about the world getting warmer, but about the way that messing with one thing (like average global temperature) throws the entire system into turmoil.  I'm sure most everybody on the forum has heard the term "chaos theory" before, but maybe not everybody knows what it means or how it came about.  Chaos theory, which was originally applied to weather, is basically the idea that extremely complex systems are unpredictable because a.) there are way too many variables to keep track of, and b.) there's no way to classify or rank these variables.  When one variable changes, a system that was already pretty unpredictable (meteorology is in no way an exact science) becomes damn near complete chaos.  I think it's a bit hard to not notice that weather across the world has gotten a lot more unstable recently than in decades past.  Hurricane Katrina was not only one of the worst natural disasters to ever hit the United States, but it also came in the middle of one of the worst hurricane seasons in recorded history.  Droughts in Africa have increased and seasonal cycles that had remained stable for centuries have stopped.  Need another example?  A girl I know took this picture a couple weeks ago at her home in northern Florida.  I think it speaks for itself.

Click here for the image. (http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs291.ash1/21831_260683802000_521042000_3877896_7811545_n.jpg)

Admittedly, each of these examples is anecdotal evidence by itself, but when you put it all together, it's hard to not notice a disturbing trend.
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Post by: modman on 18 January 2010, 02:00:19
The natural disaster is not so much of a natural disaster than a exhibition of real poverty.  In the 1989 quake, only 67 people were killed.  This is in huge contrast to the estimated 50K+ people killed in the Haiti quake.

@Omega: You may have confused climate with weather.  Climate is weather patterns, basically.

@Hailstone: I think more important is the possible benefit the government would gain by doing 9/11.  I used to buy into this stuff, but now I'm not so sure I can anymore (it isn't politically correct, ya know).  What is there to gain?  Again, I don't doubt that governments will sacrifice their own people, because it has happened before.  Does anyone think it is tied in with the whole New World Order thing?  Personally I think it is a right-wing response to recent liberalism.  Also, people don't like secret societies, which DO exist.  There are annual Bilderburg meetings in private with top leaders from around the world.  And they call NWO believers conspirators!
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Post by: hailstone on 18 January 2010, 06:41:47
Quote from: modman
What is there to gain?
Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories
The commonly claimed motives are to justify the invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq, leading to subsequent US control of their vast oil resources;[7] to facilitate increased military spending; and to restrict domestic civil liberties.

Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11_attacks#Domestic_response
Following the attacks, President Bush's job approval rating soared to 90%.
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Post by: wciow on 18 January 2010, 10:44:44
Hailstone, do you actually believe the 911 conspiracy or are you just playing devils advocate.

I think you are correct about the fact that America has engaged in these wars in in order to support its military and to spread the western idea of freedom and democracy to other countries.
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Post by: Omega on 18 January 2010, 18:55:01
Rediculous...
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Post by: JavaWolfPro on 18 January 2010, 19:00:13
Hey everyone sorry that havn't done anything about jgest lately was ban from my pc but i'm back again .
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Post by: JavaWolfPro on 18 January 2010, 21:05:08
I need sum info from you gays for a project i got at school.
1 . Wat is your worst subject ?

2 . Would you use a program tht will improve your understanding of that subject?

3. How must the program look like ?

4. Wat must the program be able to do ?

plz gays post on this its for my year programming project.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 18 January 2010, 21:19:31
Well I don't know of any gays here, but I do know that everyone on the forums is a guy. :P
(Please do not mix the words 'gay' and 'guy')

Uh.....let's see......................
I ready don't think I can provide answers to those questions
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Post by: Hectate on 18 January 2010, 22:52:28
I need sum info from you gays for a project i got at school.
1 . Wat is your worst subject ?

English and Grammar is what I hated most. Math and Science were great, and History was interesting. But while I understood (for the most part) Grammar and English and love to read, I dislike the subject from an educational standpoint.

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2 . Would you use a program tht will improve your understanding of that subject?

Assuming that I felt it necessary to improve my understanding, I personally would not be adverse to doing so using a computer program.

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3. How must the program look like ?

Well, assuming we're still talking about Grammar, I suppose it would depend on the needs of the particular aspect of Grammar being addressed. Since the purpose of Grammar is to educate one on how to compose words into sentences (and then onto larger compositions), it wouldn't need to be graphically complex. In fact, it could be as simple - visually - as notepad or even this text window I'm typing into.

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4. Wat must the program be able to do ?

Since Grammar is my worst subject, I suspect that I'm not the most qualified to answer that - however I'm not entirely incompetent and could make a few suggestions.

1. Sentence structure, types of words - Perhaps the user could have a series of shapes or rectangles (or buckets) with the words NOUN, VERB, ADVERB, ADJECTIVE, PRONOUN, etc. From there (depending on what grade level of instruction is targeted at that point) the player would have to drag other words into the appropriate field (or bucket) to categorize the words. On higher grade levels, the boxes could be dragged instead, meaning the player has to take a sentence diagram and label the appropriate parts. Other words could be combined to generate sentences, or just word combinations (for really early grades, things like Adjective+Noun and Adverb+Verb - with errors on things like Adverb+Noun and Adjective+Verb). For younger users on early grades, visual aids such as images of the noun (rather than just the word) could help understanding.

2. Punctuation - Drag-and-drop or click-to-insert. The user is given a sentence (run-on, missing commas, quotation marks, or other punctuation) and instructed to click the mouse (or type) the appropriate punctuation. True-false/yes-no questions would also be easy to do, such as "Does the sentence 'Megan said Hello! to Becky.' need quotation marks around the word 'hello'?"

3. Recognizing grammatical errors - Users could be presented with a sentence, such as "Megan [ran/run] to the store earlier." and be required to select the appropriate word(s) for the context (past tense, in this case).

Final notes on my behalf - all the above is merely a way to test a persons knowledge and allow them to see that knowledge in practice. Quizzes and tests alone are not a substitute for actual education. If you actually wish to teach the subject, such as Grammar, you have to present the information in advance. Only after it has been suitably given to the user can they act on that knowledge. You would need to type up the necessary lessons and present them in an organized (and structured, pre-planned) fashion. Studies have shown that there are about 3 main types of learners. Those that learn from seeing (including reading), those that learn from hearing, and those that learn from doing. Obviously everyone learns all these ways, but some are better than others. With that in mind you need to address all three. Put words on the screen, play them out loud to the user, show progressively complex examples (and the exceptions to the rules as well - English has many), and then let the user attempt to do it themselves.

Remember, teaching is not the presentation of knowledge, but the transfer of knowledge. If your students do not learn, you have not taught.

I suspect that, as your programming project, these are things that your teacher wants you to be thinking of yourself. That's why you've been asked "What must it be able to do?" If you don't know what is must do, it'll only ever be a nifty toy that doesn't actually do anything useful.
Lets say I want to create a program that creates random-work poetry. My goal is to create a program that, with minimal user input, outputs a plain text file. The text will be X lines of poetry, each of Y words/syllables long, with the words selected randomly from a database of words, and the variables X and Y provided by the user. You will have to create the following components:

1. an interface of some kind, for the user to input the two variables
2. input verification, to ensure the user's input is valid (and not zero or null, letters, or other non-numeric characters/data)
3. a database of words, complete with their part of speech (noun, verb, etc), what it rhymes with, number of syllables, etc. Perhaps user-editable.
4. a file read system to access the database
5. a random word selector, which would need a random seed and number generator type thingy
6. a file write system to place the selected word into the plain-text file (or possibly a memory space to store the collected words and write once to a file)
7. a loop to ensure it selects and writes Y words/syllables, and then creates a new line so long as X lines have not been reached.
8. and other error checking for things like "out of memory/disk space" (a possible problem, for an exceptionally large X and Y input)

I'm sure I missed somethings, but each one of the above is fairly complex in and of itself to do something that seems so simple. And each one of them will have to be broken down further until you reach the actual code. Computers can't handle ambitiousness.

Sorry, I seem to have rambled. Maybe I helped, maybe I confused you. Anyway, good luck!
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Post by: JavaWolfPro on 19 January 2010, 04:41:49
thnx alot  hectate
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Post by: JavaWolfPro on 19 January 2010, 13:43:08
arc way cant you awnser the q there for ppl in school  so plz
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Post by: -Archmage- on 19 January 2010, 13:53:40
I'm saying, that I just can't think of answers.

1- What is your worst subject?
Uh............I really don't know.
I'm good at just about everything(not to brag :-\).
I hate Language Arts, and I'll say that that is my weak spot.......but it's not.......so...................................see what I mean, I'm not trying to act arrogant or anything, I just did and do very well in every subject, I don't have a worst! :P

2- That depends.............

3- Doesn't matter, as long as the UI makes sense and is easy to understand.

4- I have no clue..................................................................

EDIT: Well I guess LA is my worst subject, I get all the terms kinda mixed up and I get confused between too, and to............
I still don't know how to answer those questions...............I guess it's because I don't need or want such a program, I have myself and my curiosity to teach me..............
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Post by: JavaWolfPro on 19 January 2010, 15:47:55
sorry wat is LA dont' know american school subject abreviations
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Post by: Hectate on 19 January 2010, 16:36:10
sorry wat is LA dont' know american school subject abreviations
He means what he said earlier, LA or Language Arts. Essentially the same thing I stated - English Grammar (although the scope of the class may be different than a strict Grammar class)
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Post by: Gabbe on 19 January 2010, 18:17:50
LA also Los Angeles... shortnening
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Post by: Omega on 21 January 2010, 02:44:38
@Java:
1. Accounting. I have 90+ in everything except accounting. The teacher is way too strict!

2. No, I hate the subject and am dropping it next year. Math is great, and I love advanced mathmatics, but accounting puts me to sleep. It's not the difficulty level, but rather that it's simply too dull. I consider it 'below me'. ;)

3. No program, see above.

4. Sorry bud.

--

Yeah, that probably didn't help much.

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On another topic, I'm having some serious problems. It only recently occured, and most likely has to do with upgrading my graphics card using a driver from toshiba. However, I'm reluctant to roll-back because GAE didn't work on my last version. I suppose I'll try the official drivers from ATI's webpage, but not sure how they'll do since laptops usually have heavily modified graphics drivers (or so I hear). Any advice before I try anything?

EDIT// Bloody... I forgot to mention what was wrong! You see, the windows are flickering and the thing for that window in the taskbar 'reloads' (best defined as shrinks as though it were about to close, then grows as though it were opening). Everything still WORKS, but sometimes I have to push buttons multiple times because the display flickers the moment I push the button (GAE took three clicks to close!). It happens the most when scrolling, highlighting text, and clicking, though occasionally random. Google didn't help too much, as I found a good number of people with similar simptoms, but no cure.

I've found a youtube video that seems to show EXACTLY what is happening to me (I didn't make it, somebody else did). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQA61_jwr4Q

Anyone know what to do or any ideas/advice, etc?
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Post by: -Archmage- on 21 January 2010, 13:45:41
I have Windows 7 as well, what is your graphics card?
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Post by: Omega on 21 January 2010, 18:08:00
ATI Radeon X1200. Unfortunately, ATI doesn't seem to carry a driver for that. Must be Toshiba only... CRAP!
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Post by: -Archmage- on 21 January 2010, 20:17:23
Dude, that graphics card is probably extremely old, I would just get a new one...
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Post by: Omega on 22 January 2010, 18:48:21
How? I know very little about hardware (though my laptop is only two years old). Personally, I'd rather buy a new laptop in a bit (summer?). Mine has some bad faults, including the Black screen of death (monitor blacks out, but still on), this flickering effect, and stuff. However, laptops are expensive, and I don't want one cheaper than my current one, since that'd probably impare me more, and this one is $600...
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Post by: -Archmage- on 22 January 2010, 18:59:14
My laptop was only ~$700 at BJ's and it's extremely fast, awesome graphics(especially for a laptop)!
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Post by: Omega on 25 January 2010, 19:22:10
Mine is fast and has pretty good graphics, but its acting odd......

However, I tried to roll back the driver with no success, so it's not the graphics. Anyone have any ideas? I think I'd best run windows update when I get a decent internet connection...
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Post by: modman on 26 January 2010, 03:44:19
Boy Steals Grandma's Car (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcqOgnQyXp4&feature=fvw)

lol  :D
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Post by: Omega on 26 January 2010, 16:20:50
Boy Steals Grandma's Car (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcqOgnQyXp4&feature=fvw)

lol  :D
Ha!
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Post by: verarticus on 26 January 2010, 17:58:39
Ill try to find something about that screen flashing problem (no luck yet though)
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Post by: -Archmage- on 26 January 2010, 19:01:42
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Quote from: Sir modman on January 25, 2010, 23:49:07
Boy Steals Grandma's Car

lol  Cheesy
Ha!
Ha!
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Post by: Omega on 26 January 2010, 19:05:32
I updated my comp using windows update last night and updated the antivirus, as well as set up a bootscan to scan everything on startup. However, it never finished before I had to go to school, so no word on success until later...
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Post by: verarticus on 26 January 2010, 20:48:01
Might also try a Windows error check.
(If you haven't already)

sorry im not much help on this sorta subject  :-\
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Post by: Omega on 26 January 2010, 20:55:07
Windows update didn't fix it...  :(

Tried everything from checkdisk to that utility that checks for modified system files (name cant remember).

The performance seems SLIGHTLY better though. I'll continue looking to see if I can find any odd drivers...

Oh, and google.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 26 January 2010, 21:21:45
Have you tried a registry cleaner?
I don't really know if it's related to your issue, but it certainly helps your computer's overall speed.
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Post by: Omega on 26 January 2010, 21:43:55
Yeah. I use glary utilities. I'm gonna do a disk defrag too (doubt it'll help, strongly) but that took me over a day last time...

Trying everything. Windows 7 is very new, so I'll give it a month to try and find a solution, then I'll try a reinstall (it wasn't like this when I installed it. Happened a couple days later).
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Post by: -Archmage- on 26 January 2010, 21:50:31
I use Eusing Registry Cleaner, works good.

Also, what kind of virus protection do you have?
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Post by: ElimiNator on 26 January 2010, 21:52:46
For virus protection you should use AVG (http://free.avg.com/ww-en/homepage) it is good and free.
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Post by: Omega on 26 January 2010, 21:55:01
I use Avast. Good free program.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 26 January 2010, 21:57:01
Yah, I was about to say, AVG is no where near as good as Avast, also considering you get more features with the free version of Avast than you do with AVG.
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Post by: ElimiNator on 26 January 2010, 22:01:12
Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIeLRD1L9yY) is a vid I for evry one to see.
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Post by: ultifd on 27 January 2010, 00:20:06
I use Avast... even better with the recent release... :)
and Registry Cleaners are really never to be trusted...usually.
I use CCleaner...
Just backup backup and backup.
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Post by: John.d.h on 27 January 2010, 06:15:15
Regarding computer maintenance software, I recommend Glary Utilities (the 1-Click Maintenance feature is very handy) and Auslogics Disk Defrag.  Both are free (as in no-cost).

Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIeLRD1L9yY) is a vid I for evry one to see.
That was actually really interesting!  He presents thought-out arguments with evidence and citation, and does so in a rational (instead of hostile) manner.  I think that's what was missing from the "creation vs. evolution" debate earlier.

Anyone who's still interested in that debate should definitely watch that video.  I watched all 16 parts, which might be asking a bit much for some of you, but it's really good stuff.
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Post by: ultifd on 27 January 2010, 06:23:00
Regarding computer maintenance software, I recommend Glary Utilities (the 1-Click Maintenance feature is very handy) and Auslogics Disk Defrag.  Both are free (as in no-cost).
Yeah Auslogics Disk Defrag is great.
I recently got the Pro version of Glary Utilities for free (http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/glary-utilities-pro-29/)
One thing though, is that I usually never trust the "1 click type maintenance" thing. I don't really trust it because you never really know if something went wrong. Otherwise Glary Utilities is great...even though I don't use it very often...
And the vid is interesting, I can't really watch all of it because of time issue, but it is very debatable.   :)
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Post by: JavaWolfPro on 27 January 2010, 20:13:23
hey does anyone have the 3ds max bible. Got a BSOD lost everything
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Post by: Omega on 27 January 2010, 20:18:27
Good video.

I've used glary utilities for over a year, though I strongly recommend never to use one click care with any of these kind of programs. For example, cleaning your cache may every now and then improve performance (but only if it is bustling full) and can fix some problems with websites, but it will also force you to reload all websites from scratch, which will DRASTICALLY slow you down now. Caching is a web browser's greatest tool for speed. However, most browsers automatically do this quite well and can clear it whenever you want, and some (like Firefox) let you choose what you want to clear and for how long.

Removing temporary files is usually fine. Unless you happen to be using them.

Removing empty folders and duplicate items, while it sounds good, is generally very bad. That duplicate file could be your backup or another reference used by a program because the programers didn't use the same one, which could crash the program. While removing empty folders is generally safe since most programs recognize that the folder is non-existant and will recreate it, but then what's the point, and there's no guarentee that the program will be programmed to react to that missing folder.

@Ultifd, that link is expired, but thanks so much for that site. Never realized such a thing existed. Will definately have to check in there daily!
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Post by: ultifd on 27 January 2010, 23:48:12
@Ultifd, that link is expired, but thanks so much for that site. Never realized such a thing existed. Will definately have to check in there daily!
Yeah, it gives away different software every day...For a 24 hour period.
They are sometimes good and sometimes bad.  :)
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Post by: Omega on 28 January 2010, 00:15:30
Yeah. I really should keep an eye on it for gems...
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Post by: modman on 28 January 2010, 01:51:51
http://www.kent-hovind.com/ (http://www.kent-hovind.com/)

Kent Hovind is currently serving a 10 year prison sentence for tax evasion.  To supplement the hour-long seminar, please also read a review by a website devoted to keeping an eye on the slippery man (jeeze, doesn't Hovind believe he is being monitored by the government, if not God also?), from which I learned that the man claims that leap seconds indicate the angular velocity of the Earth is decreasing!  In all honesty, it is, but the leap second comes from the far more relevant accumulation error.

I personally think that anyone who watches this and has previous scientific knowledge will be embarrassed at Hovind's material.

Yes, John, he does present arguments, which is what we want.  The problem is that they are flawed, and do not point to a young earth.

I am sorry I cannot give a direct link to the review.  From the site I linked to at the top of my post, at the top of that page, it says "Seminar Review - Age of the Earth".  This is that YouTube video Eliminator posted (very clever, he he) ;D.
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Post by: John.d.h on 28 January 2010, 02:58:34
I read the article, and I'm not very impressed.  It dismisses a lot of his arguments but for most of them it doesn't explain why.  On the few that it does go into explanation, it blatantly misrepresents his arguments "straw man"-style.  Then it blames him for making points they consider irrelevant, while pointing out slavery which is far more irrelevant to the argument.  Overall, nothing special.
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Post by: Hectate on 28 January 2010, 22:30:36
Kent Hovind has some very good arguments and I've always enjoyed watching his various videos. He presents his information very well, and keeps in entertaining and interesting.
Yes, unfortunately he also has some ideas related to paying taxes that were in strong disagreement with US laws. It doesn't change any of the material he presents, however. Like anything - creation, evolution, mail-in-rebates - examine it carefully and make your own judgments.
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Post by: modman on 29 January 2010, 02:16:26
I'm talking about his motives and his character, here, not his arguments.

John, would you give us an example of the worst form of misrepresentation the article gives?  I'll probably agree that it is misrepresentation, but why not for the heck of it?  I'll at least clear things up.

That reminds me.  Hectate, did you choose your name because "Heck Tate" is the sherriff in Lee's To Kill a Mockingbird?
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Post by: ElimiNator on 29 January 2010, 03:20:06
I say It is a good vid and you cant disprove the stuff in it so you are trying to spue it.
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Post by: modman on 29 January 2010, 03:35:47
The Count Is Censored (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-Wd-Q3F8KM)

A little naughty, but there are no bad words lol.

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Post by: modman on 29 January 2010, 04:08:57
At 1:20 on this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwuvYtBNZsk) video, which is a continuation of the seminar, Hovind claims that you cannot fuse past iron.

This is a false claim.  Hovind taught science for 15 years.  I am disappointed.  Anyways, you can fuse past iron.  The nuclear fusion in the sun does fuse past iron, but it requires more energy than it gives off.  This is why stars die: all of their light elements are used up.

Does anyone dispute me?
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Post by: Hectate on 29 January 2010, 14:03:06
That reminds me.  Hectate, did you choose your name because "Heck Tate" is the sherriff in Lee's To Kill a Mockingbird?
Nope, it's actually derivative of Hecate (patron of witches and goddess of the underworld in Greek (?) mythology). I was in 11th grade when I started paying for broadband internet access (mom and dad were fine with dialup, arg!) and I needed a name to use. I grabbed the nearest book, opened it to a random page, stuck my finger down and then looked for the closest name to where my finger was.
The book ended up being my literature textbook, the page was an excerpt from Macbeth, and the name I misread and thought it was Hectate.

The two questions I get asked most often for my name is 1. Are you a girl? (from being a goddess' name) and 2. is it from To Kill A Mockingbird?
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Post by: JavaWolfPro on 31 January 2010, 18:19:44
to kill a Mockingbird is still a good book to read although there is a few parts i dont understand , because i dont know american history
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Post by: modman on 31 January 2010, 22:50:27
Is there anyone left who will defend Kent Hovind?
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Post by: Hectate on 1 February 2010, 00:37:57
Like I said, he's got some great videos - but I neither know him nor will I argue with a federal court's conviction for tax evasion.
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Post by: modman on 1 February 2010, 02:15:43
I'll give you that.  He is a gifted public speaker.

This of course has no merit on the veracity of Hovind's arguments.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 1 February 2010, 12:10:33
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federal court's conviction for tax evasion

Who knows?
He could be innocent, considering how many innocent people are convicted and sentenced these days... :-\
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Post by: ElimiNator on 1 February 2010, 21:56:46
Yes, but in the USA there is no law saying you need to pay income tax.
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Post by: Hectate on 2 February 2010, 00:31:13
Yes, but in the USA there is no law saying you need to pay income tax.
Do you want to retract your statement?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_tax_in_the_United_States
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Post by: ElimiNator on 2 February 2010, 02:27:00
I don't know who wrote that on wikipedia but I heard that, research it and prove it wrong, but I am not saying that Its what he said. And it might be true.
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Post by: Hectate on 2 February 2010, 04:01:01
Let me describe it this way; if income taxes were optional, than it would be widely known and taken advantage of.
Perhaps what you heard was that there's nothing in the Constitution about income tax. Unfortunately we are now saddled with many other laws - not all which are necessary. As to which are not needed, that is another discussion altogether.
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Post by: John.d.h on 2 February 2010, 06:55:37
Constitutional or not, the government will always find a way to get the money it wants.  You can say "Hey, that's illegal!  You can't take my money!", and guess what's gonna happen.  They'll take your money anyway, and you'll be on government-sponsored vacation for a few years.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 2 February 2010, 11:08:42
I really cannot understand why people voted to put this dufas in office, he's not even eligible for presidency.
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Post by: modman on 2 February 2010, 23:07:08
We'll just see if McCain dies before Obama's first term is up.

Arch and Eliminator!  Kent Hovind presented an argument, I posted an objection, and you guys are sitting by and questioning whether Hovind should really be in jail or not!  Defend Hovind, or retract your argument.

BTW, if Hovind is wrong about the chemical evolution to heavier elements, it brings serious doubts to the veracity of Hovind's other arguments.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 3 February 2010, 01:11:15
I don't bother to argue with you, becau :-\se you seem to have a way of dragging arguments into complex discussions, and I just want to discuss the core of Evolution, the theory, how the hell it works!

Not get all complicated.

You see, no matter how much "evidence" you have of evolution, if the theory doesn't work then evolution is toast, oh but you don't want that, because I know(probably you too) that I would find serious problems with the theory.

I consider myself a bit of a strategist, which means I don't want to dilly-dally, I want to plan and strike, 'sorta-speak'.
You can debate this guys arguments, I will probably take a look at his arguments sometime soon, but yah, I'd like to debate the core, not what another guy thinks.
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Post by: ElimiNator on 3 February 2010, 02:25:40
Yes I defend him but I dont want to get into an argument.

@ Arch, How often are you on line?, evry time I post you Imeditly reply.
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Post by: Omega on 3 February 2010, 02:26:14
I really cannot understand why people voted to put this dufas in office, he's not even eligible for presidency.
I must agree with you there. I'm not american, but he certainly is a terrible economist. And with the world's markets so closely webbed...

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In other news, I am leaving for a vacation for the next 7 days, so will be away from the board, and this means I have to delay military's release (my fault, I forgot about the trip), so please bear that in mind. Work will resume upon return.

See you on the 11th.
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Post by: ElimiNator on 3 February 2010, 02:39:49
see ya, make shure military works on linux this time because last time it took me over an hour to fix it.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 3 February 2010, 05:07:16
Well, I'm home all the time so I check this all the time. :)
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Post by: modman on 3 February 2010, 22:20:03
I consider myself a bit of a strategist, which means I don't want to dilly-dally, I want to plan and strike, 'sorta-speak'.
You can debate this guys arguments, I will probably take a look at his arguments sometime soon, but yah, I'd like to debate the core, not what another guy thinks.

Which means avoiding the question to me.

Assume there is species A which has environmental difficultly x.  Given the appropriate amount of time and assuming that the species does not die out first, there will be an individual (k) with a dominant trait which gives k an advantage over the others of k's species.  Because the trait is dominant, it is passed to all of its offspring (I think, if not most).  Within A, there will be a pocket K which can survive x more effectively than the rest of A.  This allows them to reproduce more, because more of K survives to adulthood.  This passes the K trait to more of A.  Simple.

You wanted to debate evolution, fine.  We won't touch Abiogenesis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenesis), then.

//EDIT: Some videos creationists should view.

What All Creationists Must Deny (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nj587d5ies&NR=1)
Evolution IS a Blind Watchmaker! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcAq9bmCeR0)
Top 10 List Why Anti-Evolutionists are WRONG (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDFJviGQth4)
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Post by: -Archmage- on 3 February 2010, 23:48:34
Ok, for the first video, all I can say is that that guys has quite a lot of things wrong.
Being a bit of a creationist myself, I know that that guys says we must deny a lot of things, but a lot of them are things we don't at all have to deny, in fact a lot of the stuff he says we deny, actually would deny evolution, and is heavily supported by me and many other creationists.

For the second and third videos, the guys seems to not understand much about anything except evolution, and even then he's got a lot wrong.

You do know that the theory of Evolution is extremely flawed, and a lot of the evidence you use to support it makes little to no sense, or can be used to support creationism/ID.

Evolution as I understand it:

A solar ray(or whatever) hits one of the sperm in some male life-form, and scrambles some or all of the genetic code......ok.
Then the life-form goes and reproduces, and somehow that partially or totally scrambled sperm makes it to the egg first.

Now I'm probably jumping over tons and tons of little details, but seriously, what's the probability of that all happening, and then what is the probability of it helping the life-form?

All considered Evolution pretty much says: "life is just a random occurrence", but if Evolution is random....then it can't be logical.
THE UNIVERSE IS LOGICAL. ::) Although in favor of both sides, Evolution has a 'nanoscopic' chance of occurring, which tells us that Evolution isn't random.
ALTHOUGH........Evolution has an enormously large chance of screwing up the life-form rather than helping it in any way.

BTW, how does this natural selection thing work, it sounds like a bunch of crap, but I'd like to see what you have to say for it...

Happy now?
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Post by: John.d.h on 3 February 2010, 23:52:28
Evolution as I understand it:

A solar ray(or whatever) hits one of the sperm in some male life-form, and scrambles some or all of the genetic code......ok.
Then the life-form goes and reproduces, and somehow that partially or totally scrambled sperm makes it to the egg first.
Maybe that should read "Evolution as I don't understand it", because that's really not it at all.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 3 February 2010, 23:54:23
Ok, John I asked you for an explanation of Evolution and you clearly explained 'micro-evolution'.
So don't go telling me I've got it wrong. ::)
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Post by: modman on 4 February 2010, 01:09:12
Sperm cells are gametes!  You should really take a Biology I course before you blatantly claim:

You do know that the theory of Evolution is extremely flawed, and a lot of the evidence you use to support it makes little to no sense, or can be used to support creationism/ID.
Nothing in the universe is random! (excluding quantum mechanical processes)  And again, we're not talking about abiogenesis (maybe you've confused abiogenesis with evolution?), so why talk about whether life is a random occurrence?

It would be really easy to disprove evolution, just find a Precambrian chicken!

Add to the list that you didn't address specific problems, you just wrote off the whole of the three videos as:

Ok, for the first video, all I can say is that that guys has quite a lot of things wrong.
Being a bit of a creationist myself, I know that that guys says we must deny a lot of things, but a lot of them are things we don't at all have to deny, in fact a lot of the stuff he says we deny, actually would deny evolution, and is heavily supported by me and many other creationists.
Ignore the first factors, like the scientific method, that the man talks about.  They have a more complex relationship with evolution denial than some of the things later in the video.  What I was hoping you would get out of it is the evidence presented later in the video.  I don't think you watched the whole thing, personally, for two reasons:
1) You dismissed the videos with vague comments.
2) Evidence for evolution was presented.  If you are really so eager to find evidence so you can refute it, why didn't you comment about it, let alone counter it?

For the second and third videos, the guys seems to not understand much about anything except evolution...
Doesn't sound like a problem to me, because that's what the videos are about, proving evolution!

...and even then he's got a lot wrong.
Like what?  I expect that you would cite specifics, because you can throw this on the impalpable pile (score one for my crappy alliteration)!

what's the probability of that all happening, and then what is the probability of it helping the life-form?
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Evolution has an enormously large chance of screwing up the life-form rather than helping it in any way
These go together.  Arch, you should read up on mutation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutation#Beneficial_mutations), especially since it isn't in the "evil zone" for you.  The percent who survive after a mutation depends on the species, but for sea turtles it is about 0.3%, and for lobsters about 0.1%.  BTW, I found those facts in the videos I linked to, so you either didn't understand what he was talking about, or didn't watch that part.

All considered Evolution pretty much says: "life is just a random occurrence", but if Evolution is random....then it can't be logical.
THE UNIVERSE IS LOGICAL. Roll Eyes Although in favor of both sides, Evolution has a 'nanoscopic' chance of occurring, which tells us that Evolution isn't random.
You solved your own problem!  I don't know why you keep repeating it (maybe he's playing a war of attrition), but it is getting exceedingly annoying.  Evolution is not random.  Evolution is not random.  Oh, and BTW, evolution is not random.  Genetic variation is the "random-ist" process in it, but the natural selection process is not random at all, and is based upon the traits acquired through mutation and their effect, if any, upon the survival rate of the individuals who possess it.  If you think evolution is a random process, read this paragraph again, because I'm tired of answering that!

BTW, how does this natural selection thing work, it sounds like a bunch of crap, but I'd like to see what you have to say for it...
There are a couple of things fundamentally wrong about this:
1) Natural selection is the engine of evolution!  Trying to understand evolution without understanding natural selection without it is like trying to contemplate the solar system without Newton's universal law of gravitation.
2) The second phrase, combined with the first, by definition shows that you are dogmatic.  You admittedly have no knowledge of it whatsoever, yet have concluded it a "bunch of crap" (well, we atheists have names for your Biblical fairy tales, too!).

Because I already covered it in my last post, I won't say any more, besides one thing:  "Survival of the Fittest".  Think about it.

Happy now?
No, I'm a bit hungry.  Thank you very much for your concern of my well being, though. :P

I'm a bit relieved, because with your understanding of evolution, I'm not surprised you didn't "believe in it".  Whoever told you what you know, though, should be fired/removed from their position/chastised. :D

So don't go telling me I've got it wrong. ::)
Don't be blaming others when you got things wrong.  What John posted was true, and he is not responsible for how you interpreted it.  Also, whether or not he described micro-evolution or not, your own description of your knowledge of evolution is more of an extreme corruption than a manifestation of (but more likely not even derived from) his description.

Even if he was wrong, and his description was as corrupted as yours was today, he still cannot be held 100% responsible, because you have more than enough time to do your own research.  Seriously, if the extent of your research is two paragraphs on a gaming forum, you shouldn't expect to in any way disprove evolution.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 4 February 2010, 01:26:54
You do all this and make it all so complicated!
I'm thinking with logic here, and one of Wciow's posts, convinced me that my understanding was correct, instead of telling me I'm wrong everywhere, why won't you tell me what the right thing is, but oh no, you have to attack and be aggressive.

Using pure logic, you can conclude that there must be a creator.
Let's kinda combine evolution and abiogenesis for a second, you claim all this stuff came about from some "scientific" processes, but there's no creator, and you can't have something out of nothing!
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Post by: modman on 4 February 2010, 01:30:38
and you can't have something out of nothing!
Ah, taking the atheist side, eh?  Finally realizing what atheists realized a long time ago?
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Post by: ElimiNator on 4 February 2010, 02:04:51
Did all you guys know that no one crated coke-a-cola?, some guy steped on the side walk the wrong way and poof a coke was there, HA ha.  ;D

(http://brandingbrand.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Holy-Coke-Bottle.jpg)
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Post by: modman on 4 February 2010, 02:28:38
Why is it that, at one point, we were not talking about creationism, but now, once it is shown that the anti-evolution side is ill-informed in basic evolutionary theory, they start taking pot shots at atheism?  I'll be glad to talk atheism, but I am wary of others who would rather keep the discussion scientific.

For me, theism is superflous, because early man simply creates gods at his will to explain the world around him.

Did all you guys know that no one crated coke-a-cola?, some guy steped on the side walk the wrong way and poof a coke was there, HA ha.  ;D

Ha ha.  Here's another one: Once upon a time, there was a man, and then a sky-fairy created a woman out of that man's rib.  Ha ha.  But I'm not finished!  A talking snake convinced the woman to eat a magical fruit, which gave her power to see good from evil!  But alas, the scrumper bit the fruit, shared it with her partner.  The sky fairy kicked them out of paradise for this heinous crime, and damned all women to suffer childbirth.  Then he ensured no one else could get in by sending down an angel with a flaming sword to guard paradise.  Then end.

Great story, huh?  Wait till I tell y'all about the time God...er...sky fairy got so mad that he killed off all of man!  Don't worry, though, a man called Noah collected the millions of species of animals (and bacteria, and viruses, and the 28 000 species of butterfly) into a relatively small ship to protect all of animals from the 40 days of rain.

By the way, guys, the math breaks down to a six inches of rain per minute!  This, if you take the Bible literally that Mt. Everest was covered in the flood.

Can we explain the diversity of language through invoking God too?
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Post by: John.d.h on 4 February 2010, 07:25:44
It seems somebody must have bumped the maturity dial while I wasn't looking. >.>

I'm done playing devil's advocate for a while.  Y'all can sort it out on your own.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 4 February 2010, 12:19:29
Oh come on John! :P

The dial....huh ok, wait..........up or down? :P

BTW guys I was posting when my Mom made me go to bed.
Sorry for any confusion you may receive from this, but I started it last night, so I may have been redundant, or forgot something, you know, so just don't nit-pick. :P
I saved it though:

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Ah, taking the atheist side, eh?  Finally realizing what atheists realized a long time ago?

You are completely hilarious!!! :D :D :D
That was a completely hypocritical!
NEWSFLASH: The Atheists are the ones who believe something came out of nothing! ::) ::) ::)

Also, have you heard of Medium-ship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mediumship), and some other person that I forgot.....(hold on).....Bridey Murphy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bridey_Murphy)?(I'd recommend on top of these links, a google search.

There is so much undoubtable(I know it's not a word, but you get what it means right?) proof that the physical plane is not all that's here, there are souls(maybe not exactly as we imagine, but they obviously exist.

I've also heard(and seen tons of books about) how quantum science relates to spirituality and other things that you athiests don't believe.

I'm just about ready to give up arguing with you, you simply aren't aware of what's around you, you try to complicate things which makes me feel like "Oh great, here we go again, how can he defy logic, and try to justify his beliefs".

I'm kind of curious, do you wish you were created by Evolution?
I think Evolution happens in a way, but I also believe that you have the outcome/results all wrong, and that it can't work all by itself.

You see......Evolution doesn't create diversity of life, AT ALL, it actually 'de-complicates' genetic codes, maybe that's the explanation for why the Human Genome is 'growing'(:P) less complex. I also don't know all that much about Evolution(yet!!!), because:

1- It's very obviously not true.
2- In a few months give or take a few months, I will be starting to get into the atheists point of view, through The Great Courses, the top professors in the world give sets of lecture all about certain things, and I decided I wanted one about Romans, and a few other things, including a large set about the Big Bang, Evolution, just about everything from your point of view, so after that I will be able to de-compile you and re-compile you into a true Human being! :D How does that sound?
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Post by: modman on 4 February 2010, 23:40:44
There is so much undoubtable(I know it's not a word, but you get what it means right?) proof that the physical plane is not all that's here, there are souls(maybe not exactly as we imagine, but they obviously exist.

Why do you make assertions like this in a debate atmosphere?  Where is your undeniable, irrefutable proof?  There is none.

"That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence."
— Christopher Hitchens

Owned. :P

Oh, and I apologize for the low blows John.  I just think the balance is out of whack here, and that some are permitted what others are denied in this discussion.  Furthermore:

(http://scottklarr.com/media/leversOfLogic.png)
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Post by: modman on 5 February 2010, 03:58:56
I want to make this clear.  From now on, I will not partake in any debate which connects theism to evolution.  I will not talk about theism at all.

I understand that it is pointless, so I want to stop it NOW.
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Post by: ultifd on 5 February 2010, 05:12:07
Ergo; ...
 :)
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Post by: John.d.h on 5 February 2010, 05:41:03
I want to make this clear.
Then add an alpha channel to it! ;D
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Post by: -Archmage- on 5 February 2010, 13:00:37
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Why do you make assertions like this in a debate atmosphere?  Where is your undeniable, irrefutable proof?  There is none.

Oh there is you just ignored it!

Mediumship and Bridey Murphy.
There's a lot more but I'm no expert on this stuff, all I can say to you is stop staring at the wall, get up and take a good look around, you assume the all this complex stuff came out of a random scientific theory!
And it is in fact random because no one started it, and nothing couldn't have started it, therefore it's random.

Therefore I am un-owned. :P
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Post by: newb on 7 February 2010, 11:27:19
Hey? This is my 1st post here
About evolution...
http://emporium.turnpike.net/C/cs/top.htm
http://www.straight-talk.net/evolution/arguments.shtml
logically, if something came into existence following another, does it necessarily mean that the latter came from the former?
eg: Suppose a train is invented after a car, (or vice-versa) it doesnt mean that trains were invented from cars does it?
Charles Darwin himself , in a letter to his friend said that he did not believe that the theory was entirely practical and that it was just an idea that sparked in his mind when he saw 2 birds of same species with different beaks in different places.
We know about so many animals that existed in the past from their fossils... do we have at least ONE real fossil of a 'bird-fish', or an 'ape-man'? Believe me they said they found fossils of ape-men but it's all false.
a very simple argument: If humans came from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?
Now the scientists go to radiation - they say that radiation of some sort affected animals and they started mutating... they tried experiments on fruit-flies with all types of radiations and all they got was flies which died within a few minutes though some had a missing limb, some had an extra one, some with 2 heads, and so on but NOT ONE was a new species of fly.

Oh and play 'Medal of Honor: Pacific assault' - simply awesome game ;D
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Post by: -Archmage- on 7 February 2010, 14:46:22
Well, the Evolutionists claim to have all this proof, but they're missing a huge section of proof that they really need!
If we evolved, where are all the interspecies?!?!
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Post by: newb on 7 February 2010, 18:11:21
exactly. evolution is believed to be a gradual process and so where are the missing blocks of the jigsaw?
Plus, even if the author isn't so confident in his theory, how can we be?

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Post by: -Archmage- on 7 February 2010, 19:03:34
Modman, seriously, your 'Levers of Logic' graph is childish, it's the Evolutionist view of logic, what you can't understand isn't logical!!! :D

Stop hitting yourself.

Oh yes, me the Newb are waiting for some good clear proof! 8)
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Post by: ElimiNator on 8 February 2010, 01:33:36
ME TOO!
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Post by: John.d.h on 8 February 2010, 03:25:58
Am I bad American because I didn't know the Superbowl was tonight?  ;D
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Post by: modman on 8 February 2010, 03:47:25
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Why do you make assertions like this in a debate atmosphere?  Where is your undeniable, irrefutable proof?  There is none.

Oh there is you just ignored it!

I actually presented evidence first, which you then dismissed.  Those three YouTube videos aren't gone, you know.  Watch them, find the parts you disagree with, and list them here.  Then, using logic or data, prove them wrong.

This is the process science has to use to debunk creationist disinformation all of the time, so it is rather tiresome when you write one or two line responses and call that "debunking".

Then, after you have debunked the videos, assuming you were right, then we will look at your mediumship evidence.  But not before.  Stop avoiding the question: what is wrong with those videos?  Cite specific examples.

exactly. evolution is believed to be a gradual process and so where are the missing blocks of the jigsaw?
Plus, even if the author isn't so confident in his theory, how can we be?
Really not sure what the missing jigsaw blocks are, but I have to comment that whatever Newton thought personally about his law of gravitation, it was correct (for the most part).  So whatever Darwin thought about evolution has nothing to do with whether it is right or not.

logically, if something came into existence following another, does it necessarily mean that the latter came from the former?
eg: Suppose a train is invented after a car, (or vice-versa) it doesnt mean that trains were invented from cars does it?
No.  Neither cars nor trains are living.  They are not subject to natural selection.  They do not reproduce.  They cannot pass DNA to their offspring.  They are not subject to mutation.  And they are known to be man-made.  Animals are known to be born from their parents, not "made" so much as birthed.  Every generation is a new mix of DNA.

a very simple argument: If humans came from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?
Because...there is no reason that monkeys would die out.  Also, we did not evolve from monkeys.  Why are creationists still asking about humans evolving from monkeys again?  I answered that already!  And seeing as though I am (nearly) the only evolutionist here willing to answer these repetitive questions, I'm a little tired of it.  Monkeys and humans evolved separately.

http://www.needananswer.co.uk/questions/monkeys.html (http://www.needananswer.co.uk/questions/monkeys.html)
Am I bad American because I didn't know the Superbowl was tonight?  ;D
No, just a little removed. ;D  I normally don't watch football, only baseball.
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Post by: ElimiNator on 8 February 2010, 04:28:14
Ok so we want some proof of a fossil, skeleton,  or live animal of a half transformed/morped/Evolved animal, a pic, vid, or article.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 8 February 2010, 12:50:18
No, we don't need any of your super complicated crap!
There is a huge amount of vital proof missing on your part!
Where are all the interspecies?!?!
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Post by: softcoder on 8 February 2010, 18:46:19
Everyone take one step back.

Regardless of "evidence", the Christian faith is first and foremost based on "Faith" in God.

I personally believe that regardless of "evidence" of any kind, unless someone really wants to know the truth, simply presenting it will do nothing. So for example if you start the dialog with "there is no God" then you already have what you want. If a communist wants to believe communism is best, or a Nazi wants to believe his thing is best, they don't want something else.

Until a person is unsatisfied with what he has, then there is the possibility to show him something else.

So even if a person feels they believe in some "evidence" they may still not believe in God, that requires more than science, that requires a relationship.

Much more could be said, but the key element here is that a Christian (and Creationist) is "Saved by faith" not by evidence. Evidence is nice, but "without faith it is impossible to please God".

Thanks
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Post by: -Archmage- on 8 February 2010, 20:07:42
Please, just leave this topic, just about everything you said in that post is not true. :P
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Post by: hailstone on 9 February 2010, 00:51:26
I agree with softcoder. Perhaps there has been enough discussion and people need to do their own research if they are interested.

On another topic, my books arrived  ;D: "Game Engine Architecture" and "Programming an RTS Game With Direct3D". I know Glest uses OpenGL but it talks about a lot of things Glest doesn't have like billboarding and playing videos, etc.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 9 February 2010, 01:09:12
I'd love to see some kind of campaign mode with videos in Glest, but that would be hard... :'(
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Post by: modman on 9 February 2010, 04:00:22
No, we don't need any of your super complicated crap!
You might be disappointed to know that evolution is complicated.  You're the one who thought to take down a huge theory, while at the same time dodging all requests for evidence.

There is a huge amount of vital proof missing on your part!
That hardly qualifies as a rational response to my prompt above.  You are ignoring the question.  On forums designed for debate, there are moderators who will ban users for doing what you are doing: repetitively dodging, and giving one-line responses (especially after I typed all that!)

Where are all the interspecies?!?!
Before getting all hyped up with a double exclamation mark, you might want to check your vocab.  Interspecies is not a noun.  "Inter-species" refers to activities within a species.  In fact, Firefox doesn't even recognize interspecies as a word.

Everyone take one step back.

Regardless of "evidence", the Christian faith is first and foremost based on "Faith" in God.

I personally believe that regardless of "evidence" of any kind, unless someone really wants to know the truth, simply presenting it will do nothing. So for example if you start the dialog with "there is no God" then you already have what you want. If a communist wants to believe communism is best, or a Nazi wants to believe his thing is best, they don't want something else.

Until a person is unsatisfied with what he has, then there is the possibility to show him something else.

So even if a person feels they believe in some "evidence" they may still not believe in God, that requires more than science, that requires a relationship.

Much more could be said, but the key element here is that a Christian (and Creationist) is "Saved by faith" not by evidence. Evidence is nice, but "without faith it is impossible to please God".

Thanks
Thank you for your opinion, but no one requested salvation here.  I do believe in freedom of thought (of course!), but I also think some thoughts tend to lead to actions which are violent.  The US is not fighting a war on terror, but a war on extremism!  Muslims are willing to turn themselves into bombs because of their beliefs.  They are convinced the acts of violence earns them a seat in paradise, along with 72 personal "dark-eyed" virgins.

Similar bronze-age beliefs got Spain (and the rest of southern Europe) an Inquisition.  This was ideological attrition warfare.  And nasty too: they invented most of today's torture devices.

Softcoder, you are free to believe in whatever you want.  But don't impose them on others, and don't hurt anyone else.

And I always encourage people to join debatingchristianity.com (http://debatingchristianity.com) for rational debate on these topics.  I think that creationists will find that what they were once sure of is not as founded in logic as they once thought.  It is in my signature for a reason.
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Post by: John.d.h on 9 February 2010, 04:55:28
I personally believe that regardless of "evidence" of any kind, unless someone really wants to know the truth, simply presenting it will do nothing.
I strongly agree with this.  Most people have a very strong confirmation bias, especially when it comes to politics and religion.  When you present a point that threatens someone's beliefs, it threatens their very identity, and people are very afraid of letting go of the beliefs that make them who they are.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 9 February 2010, 12:25:12
Modman, you accuse me of dodging all the requests for evidence while you point out spelling errors to dodge requests, I gave you evidence that you need to check out, you ignored it, your turn, now please provide us with the huge block of evidence that you need!
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Post by: modman on 9 February 2010, 22:47:40
I personally believe that regardless of "evidence" of any kind, unless someone really wants to know the truth, simply presenting it will do nothing.
I strongly agree with this.  Most people have a very strong confirmation bias, especially when it comes to politics and religion.  When you present a point that threatens someone's beliefs, it threatens their very identity, and people are very afraid of letting go of the beliefs that make them who they are.

I also agree.  This is why it is important to have an open mind, and to look at all evidence objectively.  The hardest thing for me is to simultaneously keep an open mind and think objectively, demanding proof for all assertions.  This is what science is about.

For example, the reason that Newton's gravitation was so revolutionary to physics is that it tied the trajectories of falling objects and the motions of celestial bodies together in a simple equation.  The same was for Kepler's three laws.  Newton's law of universal gravitation was the final nail in the geocentric coffin.  Geocentricism is shown below.

Theories do not conform to mainstream are fine.  Flat earth theory, for example, is a valid theory.  It is testable, and makes predictions.  The predictions are what scientists test.  Flat earth theory predicts that ships should fall off of the earth if they stray too far away from land.  This is known to be false.  If someone, however, was able to prove that the earth was indeed flat, this scientist would indeed win a Nobel Prize, and would easily become one of the most celebrated scientists ever.  I'm not too worried about that, though, because the chances of that happening are near zero.

Modman, you accuse me of dodging all the requests for evidence while you point out spelling errors to dodge requests, I gave you evidence that you need to check out, you ignored it, your turn, now please provide us with the huge block of evidence that you need!
No.  That is simply not true.  In fact, I again believe you misunderstood my last post:

(http://www.ivegotatheoryaboutthat.com/images/geocentric.jpg)

//EDIT: To make the tone of my post a bit less harsh. :)
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Post by: hailstone on 9 February 2010, 23:19:22
ATI is better because it works well on all systems, nVidia brags to much, and then craps out if your not on Windows.
I think you mean them the other way around. nVidia has always had better support for Linux in my experience.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 9 February 2010, 23:59:16
Well, it f*cked up my computer and I had to reinstall linux. :P

ATI has always worked! :)
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Post by: Omega on 13 February 2010, 14:32:39
Wow, what'd you guys think of the Olympic opening ceremony? I thought that was spectacular! I've never seen such amazing effects before, ever! Boggled my mind how those lighting/video effects were done... Team canada of course is looking very good this year. 2nd largest team, with USA having a mere 2 more people, as well as some fantastic athletes such as Patrick Chan, Cindy Classen, Kristina Groves, Charles Hamelin, Jennifer Heil, Pierre Lueders, Ashleigh McIvor, Scott Moir, Jon Montgomery, Manuel Osborne-Paradis, and Hayley Wickenheiser. Beat that USA/Russia/Germany/Switzerland/Austria/etc!

Of course, you gotta feel sorry for the georgian team... :(

Anyway, what'd you guys think of the Opening ceremony?
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Post by: -Archmage- on 13 February 2010, 14:53:12
Didn't see it.
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Post by: ultifd on 13 February 2010, 17:50:13
Do you guys like the "new Youtube"? 
(http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/6902/newyoutube.th.jpg) (http://img514.imageshack.us/i/newyoutube.jpg/)
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Post by: ElimiNator on 13 February 2010, 18:04:40
Down-load some stuff here (http://www.soft-haus.com/jacob/blog/?page_id=44).
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Post by: John.d.h on 13 February 2010, 21:14:59
Down-load some stuff here (http://www.soft-haus.com/jacob/blog/?page_id=44).
What is it?  Virus? :P
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Post by: -Archmage- on 13 February 2010, 21:16:46
No its just some of Elims stuff. ::)
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Post by: ElimiNator on 14 February 2010, 01:04:45
Not a virus sory.  :D
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Post by: ultifd on 14 February 2010, 06:46:39
Olympics!  
::) :P :-\ ;D ;) :) :D :o 8) :-*  :-[
Now that's how you describe the Olympics.
Well, kind of. Depends. At least at one point...  ;)
Kinda weird... Olympics/Valentine's Day/Chinese New Year... for some.] at the same time...
huh.
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Post by: Scenariole on 14 February 2010, 09:10:13
Wow this is a good way to get my post count up!
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Post by: John.d.h on 14 February 2010, 09:15:29
Posting is a great way to raise your post count?  What a concept. ::)
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Post by: Scenariole on 14 February 2010, 09:28:06
+ 1 Post count :D
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Post by: modman on 14 February 2010, 18:35:17
Posting is a great way to raise your post count?  What a concept. ::)
lol!  :D
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Post by: Scenariole on 14 February 2010, 20:25:42
What I meant was posting random crap here >.>
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Post by: ElimiNator on 14 February 2010, 23:03:00
You don't post to get your post count up, (I am starting a argument to get my post count up  :D)
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Post by: -Archmage- on 14 February 2010, 23:33:48
La la la la la la!!!

Oh hi guys, just getting my post count up.... :D
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Post by: Omega on 15 February 2010, 01:15:40
You people are all alike.  :D

Hey, I have an idea. Let's have a joke contest! Doesn't everyone love jokes. Nobody really cares who wins as long as they get a crack out of it!

God and the Scientist
One day a scientist came up to god and said, "We don't need you anymore god. We can now do everything you can do. We can even breath life into dirt to make humans like you did."
So god says, "Oh yeah, show me."
The scientist starts to reach down to grab a handful of dirt but god stops him.
"Whoa, whoa, whoa. Get your own dirt!"


The smiths decide to use a surrogate father
The Smiths were unable to conceive children and decided to use a surrogate
father to start their family. On the day the surrogate father was to
arrive, Mr. Smith kissed his wife and said, "I'm off. The man should be
here soon" Half an hour later, just by chance a door-to-door baby
photographer rang the doorbell, hoping to make a sale.

"Good morning, madam. I've come to...."
"Oh, no need to explain. I've been expecting you," Mrs. Smith cut in.
"Really?" the photographer asked. "Well, good. I've made a speciality of
babies"
"That's what my husband and I had hoped. Please come in and have a seat"

After a moment, she asked, blushing, "Well, where do we start?"
"Leave everything to me. I usually try two in the bathtub, one on the
couch and perhaps a couple on the bed. Sometimes the living room floor is
fun too; you can really spread out!"
"Bathtub, living room floor? No wonder it didn't work for Harry and me"
"Well, madam, none of us can guarantee a good one every time. But, if we
try several different positions and I shoot from six or seven different
angles, I'm sure you'll be pleased with the results"
"My, that's a lot of....." gasped Mrs. Smith.
"Madam, in my line of work, a man must take his time. I'd love to be in
and out in five minutes, but you'd be disappointed with that, I'm sure" 
"Don't I know it," Mrs. Smith said quietly.

The photographer opened his briefcase and pulled out a portfolio of his
baby pictures.
"This was done on the top of a bus in downtown London"
"Oh my God!" Mrs. Smith exclaimed, tugging at her handkerchief.
"And these twins turned out exceptionally well, when you consider their
mother was so difficult to work with"
"She was difficult?" asked Mrs. Smith.
"Yes, I'm afraid so. I finally had to take her to Hyde Park to get the job
done right. People were crowding around four and five deep, pushing to get
a good look"
"Four and five deep?" asked Mrs. Smith, eyes widened in amazement.
"Yes," the photographer said, "And for more than three hours too. The
mother was constantly squealing and yelling. I could hardly concentrate.
Then darkness approached and I began to rush my shots. Finally, when the
squirrels began nibbling on my equipment, I just packed it all in."
Mrs. Smith leaned forward. "You mean squirrels actually chewed on your,
um......equipment?"
"That's right. Well, madam, if you're ready, I'll set up my tripod so we 
can get to work."
"Tripod?????"
"Oh yes, I have to use a tripod to rest my Canon on. It's much too big for
me to hold for very long. Madam? Madam? ....... Good Lord, she's
fainted!!"


Guy trying to console his friend
A guy was trying to console a friend who'd just found his wife
in bed with another man.
"Get over it, buddy," he said. "It's not the end of the world."
"It's all right for you to say," answered his buddy. "But what
if you came home one night and caught another man in bed with
your wife?"
The fella ponders for a moment, then says, "I'd break his cane
and kick his seeing-eye dog in the ass."


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Post by: Scenariole on 15 February 2010, 04:39:32
You got a spelling mistake..
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Post by: ultifd on 15 February 2010, 05:58:54
Hmm... good thing this forum doesn't have an off-topic section... ::)
 :)
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Post by: -Archmage- on 15 February 2010, 14:50:32
Joke ratings:
(1=bad
10=good)

(God and the Scientist): 9/10

(The smiths decide to use a surrogate father): 10/10
Comment: Absolutely hilarious, who ever thought that one up. :D

(Guy trying to console his friend): 5/10
Comment: Didn't find that so hilarious as the others...... :P
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Post by: Scenariole on 15 February 2010, 20:27:58
You don't need smiley's on the end of every sentence lol
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Post by: -Archmage- on 15 February 2010, 21:13:57
Does it really matter? ;D :P ::) :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P

HI dere, just gettin' me post count up! :P 8) ;D :D

Happy? :D
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Post by: ElimiNator on 15 February 2010, 21:15:19
Stop getin ur post count up....  ::)
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Post by: modman on 16 February 2010, 01:31:51
Why God Never Received Tenure At Any University

    * He had only one major publication.
    * It was in Hebrew.
    * It had no reference.
    * It wasn't published in a referenced journal.
    * Some even doubt that he wrote it himself.
    * It may be true that he created the world, but what has he done since then?
    * His cooperative efforts have been quite limited.
    * The scientific community has had a hard time replicating his results.
    * He never applied to the Ethics Board for permission to use human subjects.
    * When one experiment went wrong he tried to cover it up by drowning the subjects.
    * When the subjects did not behave as predicted, he deleted them from the sample.
    * He rarely comes to class, just tells students to read the book.
    * Some say he had his son teach the class.
    * He expelled his first two students for learning.
    * Although there are only ten requirements, most students fail his tests.
    * His office hours are infrequent and usually held on a mountaintop.

Yea, I pretty much completely C&Ped this from here (http://home.tiac.net/~cri/1997/tenure.html).
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Post by: Hectate on 16 February 2010, 16:03:50
Alice Grayson was to bake a cake for the Baptist Church Ladies' Group in Tuscaloosa , but  forgot to do it until the last minute. She remembered it the  morning  of  the bake sale and after rummaging through cabinets, found an angel  food cake mix & quickly made it while drying her hair, dressing, and helping her son pack up for Scout camp.

When  she took the cake from the oven, the center had  dropped flat and  the cake was horribly disfigured and she exclaimed, "Oh  dear, there is not  time to bake another cake!" This cake was important to   Alice   because  she did so want to fit in at her new church, and in  her new  community of friends. So, being inventive, she looked around the  house  for something to build up the center of The cake.. She  found it in the  bathroom  - a roll of toilet paper. She plunked it in and then covered it with icing. Not only did the finished product look  beautiful, it  looked perfect. And, before she left the house to drop the  cake by the  church  and head for work, Alice woke her daughter and gave  her some  money  and specific instructions to be at the bake sale the  moment it  opened at 9:30 and to buy the cake and bring it home. When  the  daughter  arrived at the sale, she found the attractive, perfect cake
had  already been sold.  Amanda grabbed her cell phone &  called her mom..

Alice  was horrified-she was beside herself! Everyone would  know! What would  they think? She would be ostracized, talked about,  ridiculed!   All  night, Alice lay awake in bed thinking about people  pointing  fingers  at her and talking about her behind her  back.
 

The  next day, Alice promised herself she would try not to  think about  the cake and would attend the fancy luncheon/bridal shower at the home  of a fellow church member and try to have a good time.   

She did not  really want to attend because the hostess was a snob who more  than  once  had looked down her nose at the fact that Alice was a  single  parent  and not from the founding families of Tuscaloosa , but  having  already RSVP'd , she couldn't think of a believable excuse to  stay  home..   

The meal was elegant, the company was definitely upper  crust old  south  and to Alice 's horror, the cake in question was  presented for dessert!   Alice felt the blood drain from her body when she saw the cake!  She  started  out of her chair to tell the hostess all about it, but  before  she  could get to her feet, the Mayor's wife said, "what a  beautiful  cake!"   Alice , still stunned, sat back in her chair when she  heard the  hostess (who was a prominent church member) say, "Thank you, I  baked  it  myself."

 
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Post by: ElimiNator on 16 February 2010, 22:09:26
 :D
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Post by: Scenariole on 18 February 2010, 07:42:48
Bible > Koran FYI
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Post by: John.d.h on 18 February 2010, 08:16:06
http://autocompleteme.com/ (http://autocompleteme.com/)
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Post by: ultifd on 18 February 2010, 08:49:17
Funny.  ;D   ::)
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Post by: tucho on 18 February 2010, 15:23:36
I found this post in this thread by chance

Quote
I found this :)

http://www.turbosquid.com/Search/Artists/tucho?referral=tucho

maybe, but what I wanted to show is that they sell something thats available for free :)

I know this post is quite old, but I want to make it clear that those models are not the same that the ones available for free (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=2215.0). The Turbosquid models have a improved skinning and are animated, and the ones available for free are only the mesh and texture and the license is different too.
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Post by: titi on 18 February 2010, 19:06:26
Who's that? Welcome back!!

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Post by: -Archmage- on 18 February 2010, 19:15:23
Titi, he posted not long ago in another topic, I read all of them so I saw it. ;D
Hey Tucho, you started to make a really cool military mod, what stopped you? :(
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Post by: Scenariole on 18 February 2010, 21:17:18
Yeah the military mod, I think he is lazy atm or doing something else or still working on it
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Post by: tucho on 18 February 2010, 22:20:35
Hi guys

The military mod is cancelled, I stopped the work on it because I was very bussy and after I lost part of the work that I made for the mod when one of my disks crashed. Nowadays I don't have time to make mods, so I think this mod never be released. I'm sorry.  

After that we (the Glest Team) began to work on a web game based on the glest universe, but we stopped the development because some of us are really bussy too, here (http://www.zbrushcentral.com/showpost.php?p=623468&postcount=28) you can see some artwork that I made for this projet.
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Post by: ultifd on 19 February 2010, 00:55:06
^  :(, Thanks.

Funny...  ::)
NBC catches Shaun White, coach having vulgar chat before gold (http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/vancouver/blog/fourth_place_medal/post/NBC-catches-Shaun-White-coach-having-vulgar-cha?urn=oly,220425)
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Post by: Hectate on 19 February 2010, 05:12:01
very nice, tucho!

you work for Ubisoft?
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Post by: silnarm on 19 February 2010, 06:48:02
After that we (the Glest Team) began to work on a web game based on the glest universe, but we stopped the development because some of us are really bussy too, here (http://www.zbrushcentral.com/showpost.php?p=623468&postcount=28) you can see some artwork that I made for this projet.

Took me a couple of minutes to find, but the link to the thread those pictures are from is at the top right of the page, here's a link for the lazy amongst you,
http://www.zbrushcentral.com/showthread.php?s=befef40743081ae86fc56c5e931fb87e&t=70802

That's some truly awesome work Tucho!
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Post by: -Archmage- on 19 February 2010, 12:20:11
I've already gone through and showed many people(they were very impressed) all of Tucho's work at his site: artbytucho.com. :)
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Post by: ultifd on 19 February 2010, 22:57:34
Yeah. They're nice.  :)
Just wondering, but why is wciow's stars' greenish...?
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Post by: Hectate on 20 February 2010, 04:51:19
Because it's not just that he has 541 posts, but that he has 541 quality posts. lol
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Post by: ultifd on 20 February 2010, 05:01:34
lol... Still, I wonder what's the real reason...  ::)
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(1 Hidden)
Hmm...  ::)
Admin? I don't know...  :P
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Post by: John.d.h on 20 February 2010, 05:35:45
Should I spoil it for him, or keep him wondering?
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Post by: -Archmage- on 20 February 2010, 05:58:03
Spoil it! :P
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Post by: ultifd on 20 February 2010, 07:16:08
Should I spoil it for him, or keep him wondering?
Answer:
Spoil it! :P
:) Me?
Cause I was thinking about stuff like it...
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See the spiders?
Exclude the members, but look at the "spiders" at the bottom...
Kinda funny.  :P
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Post by: John.d.h on 20 February 2010, 15:55:04
Actually, I meant about the stars thing. :P

The original GAE members have green stars, the Glest Team (aside from Tucho, for some unknown reason) have kind of a copper color, and we mere common peasants have yellow.  For example:
(http://i46.tinypic.com/24dn1i8.jpg)

The "spiders" are just bots used by the search engines to build their databases.  They're harmless.
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Post by: ultifd on 20 February 2010, 18:12:09
^ Yeah, that's what I thought. GAE related.  ::)  :-\
Yeah I know the spiders are harmless... it's just kinda funny to think about.  ;D
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Post by: modman on 22 February 2010, 03:59:58
What's the difference between God and beer?

If you devote your life to beer, there are people who will help you stop.

Funny picture:
(http://www.funhunter.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/hammer.jpg)

It's all lighthearted, by the way...
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Post by: -Archmage- on 22 February 2010, 12:58:12
If you're trying to be funny, that's not funny at all. :P

That's just kinda childish.....

If you want to prove Evolution, you're gonna have to come up with all the interspecies, and explain where all the lifeforms with genetic failures are! :P
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Post by: modman on 22 February 2010, 22:27:33
Who was talking about evolution?
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Post by: -Archmage- on 23 February 2010, 00:59:40
Who was talking about God/Christianity? :P
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Post by: modman on 23 February 2010, 01:09:15
No one.  This topic is called off topic for a reason.

If you're trying to be funny, that's not funny at all. :P

That's just kinda childish.....

If you want to prove Evolution, you're gonna have to come up with all the interspecies, and explain where all the lifeforms with genetic failures are! :P

Your post most certainly was a retort to mine.  To me, this means you were referring your challenge of "coming up with interspecies" was directed to me.  The problem, though, is that while I was making a simple joke and poking fun at the surprising truth to the viking's statement, you somehow drew a connection to evolution.  This is the essence of what I otherwise would have said in five words and punctuation:

Who was talking about evolution?
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Post by: ultifd on 23 February 2010, 01:10:04
Who was talking about evolution?

John.d.h I think.
Or Archmage.
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Post by: John.d.h on 23 February 2010, 01:17:12
The problem, though, is that while I was making a simple joke and poking fun at the surprising truth to the viking's statement, you somehow drew a connection to religion.
Uh... somehow drew a connection?  I'm pretty sure when the picture has "Christianity" and "God" in it, the connection to religion is already there.  Just sayin'. ::)
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Post by: modman on 23 February 2010, 01:36:49
The problem, though, is that while I was making a simple joke and poking fun at the surprising truth to the viking's statement, you somehow drew a connection to religion.
Uh... somehow drew a connection?  I'm pretty sure when the picture has "Christianity" and "God" in it, the connection to religion is already there.  Just sayin'. ::)

My bad.  I meant to evolution.  It makes more sense when you substitute evolution in there, I guess. :-[

But my statement still holds.  I had not made any connection or even mention of religion to evolution.  The first time that word appears in posts after February 20 is in Archmage's post.

I'm going to edit that post to make it more clear; it shouldn't matter, because you already caught me without my pants, John. ;D
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Post by: -Archmage- on 23 February 2010, 01:48:25
Oops...
Completely misunderstood the joke, I read it too fast. :-[
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Post by: -Archmage- on 23 February 2010, 15:47:39
Just curious.....
Why was Kukac banned?
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Post by: Omega on 23 February 2010, 19:50:45
HS!!! I just noticed that. That is not acceptable! Interestingly, it says he was last active today...
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Post by: -Archmage- on 23 February 2010, 20:15:53
Yah, I noticed that a long time ago, I just didn't post about it.....
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Post by: ultifd on 24 February 2010, 01:22:23
I noticed that, but I thought that was just his "Personal Text"...  :-\  :P  ::)
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Post by: John.d.h on 24 February 2010, 02:46:05
Why do you say he was banned?  I know he hasn't been around much, but I can't imagine why someone would ban him.
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Post by: ultifd on 24 February 2010, 03:16:25
Why do you say he was banned?  I know he hasn't been around much, but I can't imagine why someone would ban him.
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[URL=http://img705.imageshack.us/i/kukacbanned.jpg/][IMG]http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/4755/kukacbanned.jpg[/img][/URL]I think it's  just his "custom title" though...  :P
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Post by: ElimiNator on 24 February 2010, 03:28:09
Ya, I wonder why?

(I hope I don't get baned next!)

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Post by: modman on 24 February 2010, 03:37:49
What do you guys think of this?

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=ContourPlot3D[+%28x^2+%2B+9%2F4+y^2+%2B+z^2+-+1%29^3+-+x^2*z^3+-+++++9%2F80+y^2*z^3+%3D%3D+0+%2C+{x%2C+-2+%2C+2}%2C+{y%2C+-2%2C+2}%2C+{z%2C+-2%2C+2}]

//Edit: Had to remove the actual link from the text, or it wouldn't work.  But you still know what to do. ;)
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Post by: ElimiNator on 24 February 2010, 05:48:34
What is it?
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Post by: ultifd on 24 February 2010, 09:47:18
Yeah, what is it?  ???
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Post by: silnarm on 24 February 2010, 13:28:00
Yeah, what is it?  ???

A mathematical formulae that describes the surface of a heart shape.

Pretty neat, I reckon!
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Post by: titi on 24 February 2010, 15:03:53
cool  ;D

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Post by: Omega on 24 February 2010, 16:50:30
Pretty neat. Concerning Kukac, I checked his personal text, don't find it offending, but a decent laugh. I think whoever banned him was way too strict and would like to know who that was. I see nothing in the rules against having a joke about windows 98 in your personal text being illegal. I strongly recommend he be unbanned immedietly or at the very least, a good explaination to why he is banned.
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Post by: ElimiNator on 24 February 2010, 18:30:00
I agree.  >:(
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Post by: silnarm on 24 February 2010, 21:13:31
Pretty neat. Concerning Kukac, I checked his personal text, don't find it offending, but a decent laugh. I think whoever banned him was way too strict and would like to know who that was. I see nothing in the rules against having a joke about windows 98 in your personal text being illegal. I strongly recommend he be unbanned immedietly or at the very least, a good explaination to why he is banned.

lol!  I think he 'banned' himself guys, go to his profile... look carefully...
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Post by: -Archmage- on 24 February 2010, 21:20:06
I've already went over his profile, I think yes, he may have banned himself, but it's strange the way he was on today....
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Post by: silnarm on 24 February 2010, 21:27:24
go back to his profile, look closer.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 24 February 2010, 22:52:51
Where should I look in his profile?
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Post by: Omega on 25 February 2010, 16:04:23
Hmm, I see nothing... Banned is a custom title, is that true ban? I thought banned people become guests and the account is deleted...? Is that what silnarm was talking about? I can't find anyone else with custom titles, so...
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Post by: -Archmage- on 25 February 2010, 16:33:34
Yah, same here Omega, him still being a user is the strange thing, but still it doesn't explain why he's banned...
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Post by: Omega on 25 February 2010, 18:34:10
I just talked to him via PM. He's not banned, it's just an *odd* personal title.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 25 February 2010, 18:46:56
I just noticed that because he just posted.
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Post by: ElimiNator on 25 February 2010, 21:21:23
Yes he is not baned, he posted here (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=4266.msg40081#msg40081).

How do you get a title under your name like his?
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Post by: Omega on 26 February 2010, 02:32:41
YES! Canada Womens hockey takes gold, utterly owning the poor americans! Honestly, can you americans not smile?!? Even the bronze-taking Finnish were all happy, but the americans were cwying... :P Even when getting their silver medals there was rarely even a smile. Are you guys always like this?
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Post by: ultifd on 26 February 2010, 02:34:19
YES! Canada Womens hockey takes gold, utterly owning the poor americans! Honestly, can you americans not smile?!? Even the bronze-taking Finnish were all happy, but the americans were cwying... :P Even when getting their silver medals there was rarely even a smile. Are you guys always like this?
Agreed. Even though I'm kinda "American..."  ::)  :P
Yeah...Olympics.  :)
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Post by: John.d.h on 26 February 2010, 02:55:15
Honestly, can you americans not smile?!? Even the bronze-taking Finnish were all happy, but the americans were cwying... :P Even when getting their silver medals there was rarely even a smile. Are you guys always like this?
As an American, I think our nation has gotten pretty spoiled when it comes to a lot of things, including the Olympics.  We're so used to having the biggest and best stuff, that when we come in second place we gripe about it and say it's unfair, or just outright deny that we've been bested.  An example would be how a lot of Americans claim that we won the "space race" by landing on the moon first, when the Russians had been in space for years.  It's like we changed where the finish line was halfway through the race so it would look like we finished first.  In a lot of places, if one of us says anything that might suggest that we're not the greatest country in the world, it's downright un-American!  "If you don't love it, leave it!"  That's another thing that bugs me.  Calling someone un-American assumes that there is some core set of values that you have to have (including excessive nationalism), or else you don't belong in the United States.
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Post by: Hectate on 26 February 2010, 04:46:14
Yea, John has it right. Hyper-competitiveness is a problem in the states. Never mind that Silver is still better than every other team in the world but one.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 26 February 2010, 12:45:15
Hey, I'm pretty sure that US Americano's one in a lot of other places...

I wouldn't know, because I haven't heard much...........
I seriously don't watch a second of TV.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 26 February 2010, 18:43:47
Is this(below) the theory of Evolution or is it so random that there isn't a theory behind it?




When reproduction takes place, a solar ray may happen to hit one of the sperm, and randomly alter any amount of it's genetic code, then that sperm happens to meet up with the egg and fertilize it. This happens all over the place, and natural selection does it's part and wallah you get your result(what's the result? sorry that's unpredictable...)!



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Post by: John.d.h on 26 February 2010, 21:00:35
Mutations in genes are usually a result of imperfect gene copying in meiosis (the production of egg cells and sperm cells), causing the offspring to have genes that were not present in the parents.  An example of this is achondroplasia (the most common form of dwarfism).  The cause of achondroplasia is a dominant gene.  A dominant gene is one that you only have to have a single copy of in order to have the trait, and a recessive gene is one that you have to have two copies of in order to have the trait.  For example (this is a slight over-simplification), if you have one copy of the blond gene and one copy of the brunette gene, you'll have brown hair because the brunette gene is dominant and the blond gene is recessive.  The significance of this is that there have been observed cases of people with achondroplasia whose parents were not dwarfs.  This means that neither parent had a copy of the gene for achondroplasia (if either of them had it, he/she would be a dwarf as well), but the child does have a copy, and therefor has the trait for dwarfism.  This provides a real-life example of how new genes develop.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 26 February 2010, 21:15:58
That is extremely interesting, seriously! :)
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Post by: hailstone on 26 February 2010, 23:55:12
I think Archmage is a bot..... just kidding  :P

I wanted to let everyone know that I'm back at university now. I've done my first week and it looks like it's going to be intense but I still want to work on GAE's gui. Also later in the semester I might look into AI when I've learnt more from my units.
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Post by: John.d.h on 27 February 2010, 17:37:23
CRABS are VERTEBRATE! So are shrimps, ...
You're thinking of molluscs (invertebrate) AND crustaceans (vertebrate). ;)

EDIT: Erm, nevermind. I just made a complete fool out of myself! ;D ;D ;D
Crustaceans ARE INVERTEBRATE. ;D
*whew* I was worried for a moment!  At least I got to spend some time reading up on arthropods on Wikipedia.  I haven't read a book in years, but when I get started on a good wiki article, I can spend days reading related articles.
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Post by: draline on 1 March 2010, 00:10:45
Does anyone have the php script for the world map builder for kallen.
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Post by: modman on 1 March 2010, 01:09:31
I just found a really good article explaining why 'gaps' in the fossil record aren't actually such a problem:
http://www.creationtheory.org/Arguments/Discontinuities.xhtml (http://www.creationtheory.org/Arguments/Discontinuities.xhtml)

I'll try to summarize.  Even though some fossils may be absent (and they should), it doesn't mean scientists don't see a pattern in the fossils they do see.  See the image below?  It's pixelated.
(http://www.creationtheory.org/Arguments/Vasquez-2.jpg)
Does this mean that there is no pattern?  Certainly not.  Any human (and some bots, too!) could see the resemblance to the original image.
(http://www.creationtheory.org/Arguments/Vasquez-1.jpg)

//EDIT: Watched a great debate between Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron (two Christian apologists) and two members of the "Rational Response Squad".  Result: Ray and Kirk, as expected, got schooled.  Ray set the bar too high for himself though: he thought he could prove the existence of a god scientifically.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-rKiGJrcNw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-rKiGJrcNw)
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Post by: ElimiNator on 1 March 2010, 01:26:31
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Improving but still incomplete picture of the fossil record.
Incomplete, when I ask will it be complete? NEVER! This is no proof of anything.
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Post by: modman on 1 March 2010, 02:03:06
How many of Colonel Mustard's fingerprints do you need on the lead pipe to know that he beat Professor Plum to death with it?
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Post by: Hectate on 1 March 2010, 04:41:32
How many of Colonel Mustard's fingerprints do you need on the lead pipe to know that he beat Professor Plum to death with it?
Your accusation is not valid because you didn't say in which room this alleged event took place! I myself have strong suspicions about Ms. Scarlet with the rope in the Dining Room! Show me your evidence!
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Post by: John.d.h on 1 March 2010, 05:22:30
I've always thought the word "colonel" had a weird spelling/pronunciation combo.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 1 March 2010, 13:07:47
Modman, it just doesn't matter whether you think you have proof or not, first you have to have a good theory, the theory of Evolution has never come out of your mouth... :P
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Post by: ElimiNator on 1 March 2010, 17:13:29
Just tell us, Is your grate grate grate... grandpa a rock?  :D
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Post by: modman on 2 March 2010, 01:54:15
I just wrote about this today on another forum (the Christian Debate forum), so I hope you'll excuse me if I save myself the unnecessary effort of recopying it, and just C&P:

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There are three intrinsic properties of life (at least three, I guess). All organisms that possess these properties will evolve. This is a fact.

1) Everything that is living will die.
2) Animals who are unsuited to their environment will die faster, meaning they produce fewer offspring.
3) Child generations are different than their parents.

Do you deny any of these properties? If so, which ones, and most importantly, why?

The reason that watches and everything else which is created (i.e. not life) does not evolve is simple: watches do not die or reproduce, and are thus not subject to natural selection.

The actual url of the page is this (http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12981), if you care.  I edited some parts to make a little more sense (and be logically sound).

I'll provide links of evidence now:
1) Everything dies (http://aklemai.com/albums/forum/obvious.gif).
2) Organisms who are suited to their environment live longer to produce more offspring (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060814163525AAKrWPE).  The converse is also true (http://206.130.110.244/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/saratanis2007-08-20fish_out_of_water1.JPG).
3) Offspring are different than their parents (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaria#Evolutionary_pressure_of_malaria_on_human_genes).
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Post by: -Archmage- on 3 March 2010, 03:56:12
You are right there, but the problem for you is that Evolution itself doesn't work! :P
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Post by: @kukac@ on 3 March 2010, 19:50:41
Then you don't need to be afraid from any viruses anymore, since they don't evolve. Have no fear :P
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Post by: modman on 3 March 2010, 22:03:54
You are right there, but the problem for you is that Evolution itself doesn't work! :P

Let's break this down for analysis a bit (and I apologize to all whose intelligence I insult by doing this).  In the quoted post are two ideas:
1) that everything I stated in my post (we assume that's who "you" is) is agreed upon
2) that evolution does not occur, regardless of #1

Having stated above that nothing which does not die, reproduce with mutation, and have an amount of offspring in direct relationship with the length of life (per species) will not evolve, we can conclude (as stated above as well) that things which are created do not evolve.  This leaves two alternatives before the final criteria: that life was created in present form and thus does not evolve or even adapt to its environment (adaptation, if spread to offspring genetically, is evolution), or that no life was "created", but evolved and differentiated to better fit Earth's varied habitats.

The final criteria is whether life was created or not.  Until scientists give a definitive answer to this abiogenetical question, the burden of proof still lies with the ID proponent, to give an example of life being designed, and also to produce the initial designer (an enormously difficult task, because it is not often that a life-initiator is coaxed out of hiding :P).
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Post by: John.d.h on 3 March 2010, 22:51:31
the burden of proof still lies with the ID proponent
... and why do you say that?
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Post by: modman on 3 March 2010, 23:13:49
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof#Holder_of_the_burden (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophic_burden_of_proof#Holder_of_the_burden)

ID proponents are making the claim that there exists an intelligent designer.  If scientists say that abiogenesis is up in the air, ID proponents still have a proposal of an intelligent designer.  This is their claim.
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Post by: John.d.h on 4 March 2010, 00:50:17
The burden of proof is on whomever is making a claim.  You're making just as much of a claim by saying evolution exists as someone saying God exists, so you have just as much of a burden of proof.
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Post by: modman on 5 March 2010, 04:08:19
The burden of proof is on whomever is making a claim.  You're making just as much of a claim by saying evolution exists as someone saying God exists, so you have just as much of a burden of proof.

And if the longer statement I wrote before on March 1 was not evidence at all, I would not be supporting the theory.

The burden of proof is not so much to prove something absolutely, but to support it better than the opposition.  If I saw planets with life being created there in present form, I would constitute that as equal and opposing evidence, but alas, no such events are observed.
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Post by: John.d.h on 5 March 2010, 05:48:54
Granted, you have presented some good points for your case.  However, I'm still at odds with what I see as a baseless assumption that the burden of proof lies on one side more than the other.



Anyway, has anyone seen either of the Blender open movie projects?  They're both available for free from the Blender Foundation under Creative Commons licenses.  I downloaded them the other day and I'm glad I did, because they're fantastic.

The first is "Elephants Dream (http://www.elephantsdream.org/)", which is a mind-bending short about two men exploring what appears to be a mechanical dream world.  Personally, I'm really into what I call "imagination flicks", the kind that transport the viewer into another world, immersive and alien.  Examples include "What Dreams May Come" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120889/), "Gwai Wik" aka "Re-cycle" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0498311/) (my favorite movie of all time), and to a lesser extent "The Cell".  If this animated short were made into a feature-length film, it would surely be one of my favorites.  As it is, it's a great way to spend about 10 minutes of your life, and also a pretty impressive testament to what Blender can do.
(http://orange.blender.org/wp-content/themes/orange/images/media/logo_elephantsdream.png)

The second is "Big Buck Bunny (http://www.bigbuckbunny.org/)", which is a comedic short about woodland creatures invading the title character's territory, and his revenge.  I'm not normally a huge cartoon fan, but this film is one of the funniest I've seen in a long time.  There's no dialogue, but believe me that it doesn't need it.  The animation quality is the same as you would expect from high-end motion picture studios like Pixar and Dreamworks from a few years ago (e.g. "Monsters, Inc."), and really solidifies Blender as an industry-quality animation program.  If you liked the squirrel scenes in the "Ice Age" movies, then "Big Buck Bunny" is right up your alley.  It's also fun for the whole family.
(http://www.bigbuckbunny.org/wp-content/uploads/bbb-bluray-1.jpg)
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Post by: Hectate on 5 March 2010, 12:49:25
I'd seen elephant dream but not big buck bunny (until now, good stuff). I'm looking forward to seeing how the "Durian" (http://durian.blender.org/) project turns out. Something with some fantasy and action is bound to be a challenge. I hope they've got a good foley artist.
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Post by: Gabbe on 5 March 2010, 16:58:51
Does anyone know why the reason we have like 60-50 guests on and 5-7 users all day?
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Post by: ultifd on 6 March 2010, 01:23:26
Does anyone know why the reason we have like 60-50 guests on and 5-7 users all day?
Because...Glest is not that popular, if it is people would rather not open up a account and post...
Half or more of the guests are bots...
So...yeah.
 ::)  :P
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Post by: ElimiNator on 8 March 2010, 22:27:31
I realy liked Big Buck bunny!  :D
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Post by: -Archmage- on 8 March 2010, 22:29:25
Big Buck Bunny was great, my Dad loved it and so did I! ;D
It's got a really inspiring soundtrack! :D
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Post by: Omega on 9 March 2010, 03:19:15
I don't think this one was made with blender, but it is still an amazing indy project. It's called Pigeon Impossible and is very funny. It took a guy five years for six minutes of video. No dialogue, but great audio and fantastic *VERY* professional animation!

I too, am not a fan of cartoons, but this made me laugh, even on the third view. ;D
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Post by: ElimiNator on 9 March 2010, 03:46:38
Why don't you post  link to it then? I would like to see it.
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Post by: Omega on 9 March 2010, 04:02:11
Ah, I got it from FROSTWIRE. It was a featured download. CC for the win!
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Post by: ElimiNator on 9 March 2010, 17:01:36
How come there is 2 of evry topic on the oftopic board? thay are still here? ???
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Post by: Omega on 9 March 2010, 18:49:59
Is there????????????????? I only see one. What do you mean?
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Post by: John.d.h on 9 March 2010, 20:48:12
Continuing the OT from the Dwarf thread:

Regarding soymilk, it has been shown to have far more health benefits than risks, such as reducing the risk of cancer and heart disease (http://www.goveg.com/common_questions.asp#soy), and I think you should be a lot more worried about the ridiculous levels of cancer-causing bovine growth hormones (http://www.preventcancer.com/consumers/general/milk.htm), fat, cholesterol, antibiotics, and pus (http://www.ejnet.org/bgh/nogood.html) in cow milk.  On top of that, cow milk actually contains more female hormones (http://blog.peta.org/archives/2009/11/jeremy_piven.php) than soy milk, leading to gynecomastia (http://www.goveg.com/contamination_hormones.asp), or breast development in males.  So if you're really worried about growing moobs (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=moobs) and crying when you watch "The Notebook", you're better off replacing your bovine secretions with soy, almond, or rice milk.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 9 March 2010, 21:22:11
Just don't drink milk! :P
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Post by: John.d.h on 10 March 2010, 00:10:12
As long as you like putting water on your cereal and you have another good source of calcium, sure. :P
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Post by: ultifd on 10 March 2010, 01:05:42
Archmage, if you're 12... why are you worrying...  ::) Then again maybe you do...or not
:P You'll probably need it...or not.
EDIT: Joking...
I really don't care though, only when people, in this case males, are "fat" then they'll have moobs...  ::)

An off topic section ehh? Well, let's hope there will be no...  ::)  :P
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Post by: Omega on 10 March 2010, 03:34:02
Jeeze john. You're scary...  :-X

I prefer cows milk. I dislike any other variety. Milk's good. It tasted good, it looks good  :P, it is good.

*Wow, I can't believe I just posted about milk*
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Post by: ultifd on 10 March 2010, 04:03:35
I don't think this one was made with blender, but it is still an amazing indy project. It's called Pigeon Impossible and is very funny. It took a guy five years for six minutes of video. No dialogue, but great audio and fantastic *VERY* professional animation!

I too, am not a fan of cartoons, but this made me laugh, even on the third view. ;D
It was very cool.  :)  8)  :P
Very enjoyable.  ;D

-------------------------
Soy milk is cool... maybe only cause I drank the one that had sugar added to it.  :P  8) Without sugar, or anything added to soy milk, it basically tastes like water. Now if I drink soy milk, it is "naturally" flavored with vanilla...  ::)  :P

Yeah I prefer cow milk... Although I recently have been drinking Organic Cow Milk...and when I drink "regular" it tastes funny...  ::)
I don't think I can be vegan...I can be vegetarian though. I'm not right now, but I don't eat a lot of meat either... I think.  :-[  :-X

Ugh...slaughterhouses  :'(  >:(  :-\ <---a mix of these.
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it looks good  Tongue
:P We need a another kind of smiley for ":P".  :)
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Post by: modman on 10 March 2010, 04:15:44
Regarding soymilk, it has been shown to have far more health benefits than risks, such as reducing the risk of cancer and heart disease (http://www.goveg.com/common_questions.asp#soy), and I think you should be a lot more worried about the ridiculous levels of cancer-causing bovine growth hormones (http://www.preventcancer.com/consumers/general/milk.htm), fat, cholesterol, antibiotics, and pus (http://www.ejnet.org/bgh/nogood.html) in cow milk.  On top of that, cow milk actually contains more female hormones (http://blog.peta.org/archives/2009/11/jeremy_piven.php) than soy milk, leading to gynecomastia (http://www.goveg.com/contamination_hormones.asp), or breast development in males.  So if you're really worried about growing moobs (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=moobs) and crying when you watch "The Notebook", you're better off replacing your bovine secretions with soy, almond, or rice milk.

Fantastic point!  I wish I had thought of this!

I remember a short mention of some growth hormone for cows in "The Corporation", a documentary.

I liked that documentary by the way.  Anyone else see it?

I think that as a rule of thumb, if you want to continue a specific subject in OT, you should create another thread. ;)
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Post by: modman on 10 March 2010, 04:32:33
Sorry for the DP, but this is new.

You're being chased by a bunch of Behemoths about 100 m behind you, surrounded on both sides by thick (impenetrable) forest, when you come to a fork in the road (the kind that makes you choose a direction :P).  There is a man in front of each fork.  You know that one path leads to a cliff (aka your doom) and the other to safety.  You know (somehow) that one of the men will tell the truth when you ask the question, the other a lie.  You only have time for one question (those Behemoths are sure closing in fast).

To whom do you ask the question, and what do you ask?

The above is all exactly the way it sounds; this is not a trick question.  There is a real answer.  Your answer must be a question, not "well, I steal the magic from the man on the left and use it to kill the hoard of Behemoths".

And if you know the answer, please do not post it here; the fun is in the thinking!  If you want confirmation, PM me. ;)
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Post by: ultifd on 10 March 2010, 05:03:39
Ah, I remember that riddle.  :)
I mean you just re-worded/Glestd' it actually.  ::)

I remember a short mention of some growth hormone for cows in "The Corporation", a documentary.

I liked that documentary by the way.  Anyone else see it?
I think I saw it. Or another documentary that was talking also about corporations... So if I saw it before, it was a long time ago...maybe a few years? I better re-watch it when I have some time.  :)

Documentaries are nice. Some aren't that great, but others are pretty cool...

Anyone watched Super Size me?  :P

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I think that as a rule of thumb, if you want to continue a specific subject in OT, you should create another thread. ;)
True, but that would create some problems... and that's why I didn't really want an off topic board.  :-\
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Post by: John.d.h on 10 March 2010, 05:36:10
I've never seen "The Corporation", but "Supersize Me" was very good.  I already hated McDonald's down to the very core of my being, and that just gave me more reason.  There are a bunch of documentaries I've been meaning to watch but haven't gotten around to, including "Food, Inc." and "Fast Food America".  "Fahrenheit 9/11" seems a little too conspiracy-theory-ish for my tastes.

I like original flavor or vanilla soymilk, but when it comes to almond milk I think the vanilla is a bit too strong, so I prefer the regular kind.  Rice milk is okay, but it's a bit watery for my tastes, like bovine milk.

Nowadays, I only eat meat if somebody offers it to me, like if I'm at somebody's house and they cook something.  I do take some supplements with fish ingredients, though.  I guess I can't quite claim to be a vegetarian, but I figure I'm close enough to be able to call myself an environmentalist. ;)

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Ugh...slaughterhouses  :'(  >:(  :-\ <---a mix of these.
lol Some of those PETA videos are downright high octane nightmare fuel (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HighOctaneNightmareFuel).
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:P We need a another kind of smiley for ":P".  :)
Yeah, that face is pretty bad, and the regular smile looks like he wants to kill me and eat my corpse.  Something about the beady little eyes and creepy smile.

Regarding the riddle (somebody should have seen this coming):
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/labyrinth_puzzle.png)
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Post by: ultifd on 10 March 2010, 08:46:05
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I like original flavor or vanilla soymilk, but when it comes to almond milk I think the vanilla is a bit too strong, so I prefer the regular kind.  Rice milk is okay, but it's a bit watery for my tastes, like bovine milk.
Oh, I forgot about almond and rice milk.  :Pish They are ok.  :)-ish

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I've never seen "The Corporation", but "Supersize Me" was very good.  I already hated McDonald's down to the very core of my being, and that just gave me more reason.  There are a bunch of documentaries I've been meaning to watch but haven't gotten around to, including "Food, Inc." and "Fast Food America".  "Fahrenheit 9/11" seems a little too conspiracy-theory-ish for my tastes.
Yeah...documentaries!  :D-ish
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Nowadays, I only eat meat if somebody offers it to me, like if I'm at somebody's house and they cook something.  I do take some supplements with fish ingredients, though.  I guess I can't quite claim to be a vegetarian, but I figure I'm close enough to be able to call myself an environmentalist. Wink
That's good.  :)

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Ugh...slaughterhouses  Cry  Angry  Undecided <---a mix of these.
lol Some of those PETA videos are downright high octane nightmare fuel.
lol  ::) sometime PETA goes too far. They are sometimes right though.  ::)

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Tongue We need a another kind of smiley for "Tongue".  Smiley
Yeah, that face is pretty bad, and the regular smile looks like he wants to kill me and eat my corpse.  Something about the beady little eyes and creepy smile.
Yeah I know, and agree.  :P-ish... add an "-ish"...  ::)  :P We need more Smileys! kinda...

Haha  :D, xkcd...  ;D

Man, I should/need to watch some documentaries...   ::) Although I want to watch some movies too...  :P-ish
There's a site for that. and that.  :P-ish.  :)

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Post by: Omega on 11 March 2010, 02:37:45
 :D :D :D
Thanks for posting that picture. Not only was it funny, but I was able to bookmark the site. Lots of laughs there!

Nowadays, I only eat meat if somebody offers it to me, like if I'm at somebody's house and they cook something.  I do take some supplements with fish ingredients, though.  I guess I can't quite claim to be a vegetarian, but I figure I'm close enough to be able to call myself an environmentalist. Wink
For real?!?!?!?!? Ugh. I admit, I dislike people when they refuse to eat normal meat (for what reason). I know american beef isn't that good, but still, it's not that bad, and man cannot live on fish alone (and supplements aren't natural...). Generally I usually meat (pardon the pun) vegetarians who don't eat meat because they are dieting or something, in which case, I can usually recommend EXERCISE rather than vegetarianism  :-X

Concerning those who eat little or diet to try and lose weight, here's my counterpoint (BTW, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying John is trying to lose weight! :P). I'm a pretty big guy, at 6'1", and eat more than anyone in my household, yet I maintain a very much healthy 175 with plenty of muscle, yet a very good academic average. I never diet, I eat my share of junkfood from time to time. I do eat balanced though, getting enough from every food group, but still maintain a healthy weight. I consider exercise to be the best weight management ever, even though I don't go out of my way to keep fit (grueling phys ed classes, extra-curicular sports, and usually jog home from work, but that's about it, with maybe some training in the summer, etc).
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Post by: ultifd on 11 March 2010, 03:01:16
Nowadays, I only eat meat if somebody offers it to me, like if I'm at somebody's house and they cook something.  I do take some supplements with fish ingredients, though.  I guess I can't quite claim to be a vegetarian, but I figure I'm close enough to be able to call myself an environmentalist. Wink
First It's john, not me...   ::)
Nowadays, I only eat meat if somebody offers it to me, like if I'm at somebody's house and they cook something.  I do take some supplements with fish ingredients, though.  I guess I can't quite claim to be a vegetarian, but I figure I'm close enough to be able to call myself an environmentalist. ;)
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I can usually recommend EXERCISE rather than vegetarianism  :-X
I recommend both. The only con of being veg is that it is harder to get Protein, and that a lot of people aren't veg, so it's harder to actually be veg...for some. in my opinion

I eat meat, but I at least don't eat too much...  ::) There are many cons...  :) Not "Smileying" but...it fits the...
Then again sometimes I eat a lot...  ::)
I'm more concerned how people treat the animals that get killed...or how they got killed to eat.   :(
and other stuff...related to health.
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and man cannot live on fish alone (and supplements aren't natural...).
what else do we eat...doesn't have to be...  :P

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Generally I usually meat (pardon the pun) vegetarians who don't eat meat because they are dieting or something,
not for me, when I meet people who are vegetarian, it's more because they just don't like meat...or other reasons. Being veg does not necessarily make people slimmer...  ::) My sis is veg.  :)

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For real?!?!?!?!? Ugh. I admit, I dislike people when they refuse to eat normal meat (for what reason).
  ::)

Otherwise eating meat and being a vegetarian isn't that bad... or not. :P seriously we need a new...
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Post by: ElimiNator on 11 March 2010, 03:02:26
Smiles that need to change:

 :) ,  ;) ,  ??? ,  :-\ ,
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Post by: Omega on 11 March 2010, 03:15:21
Smiles that need to change:

 :) ,  ;) ,  ??? ,  :-\ ,
Hmm? Why is that? Other opinions?

First It's john, not me...   ::)
Sorry, I just quoted his message without realizing he quoted you in there.  ???

I recommend both. The only con of being veg is that it is harder to get Protein, and that a lot of people aren't veg, so it's harder to actually be veg...for some. in my opinion
Meat power! Meat contains literally TONS of VITAL nutrients of VARIOUS kinds that are NECESSARY for human SURVIVAL (emphasis, anyone?). I can't imagine trying to play sports without meat. I don't know a lot of vegetarians, but the few I've met weren't athletic at all... And one was goth  :o
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Post by: ultifd on 11 March 2010, 03:20:22
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Smiles that need to change:

 :) ,  ;) ,  ??? ,  :-\ ,
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Hmm? Why is that? Other opinions?
Well...cause they're weird. Like  :P :P :P :P :P :P  ::)

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Sorry, I just quoted his message without realizing he quoted you in there.  Huh
I know  :) I was just pointing it out.  :D
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Meat power! Meat contains literally TONS of VITAL nutrients of VARIOUS kinds that are NECESSARY for human SURVIVAL (emphasis, anyone?). I can't imagine trying to play sports without meat. I don't know a lot of vegetarians, but the few I've met weren't athletic at all... And one was goth  Shocked
And the same for other stuff. Goth?  ::)  :P
You just like meat. I do too. I'm just saying there are basically more cons to pros, while if you eat other stuff... Like I know someone(s) ,:P, that say being Vegetarian is good, but after 18+...since...  :)
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Post by: ElimiNator on 11 March 2010, 05:22:18
Ok Ill give a reason.

 :) mouth looks strange.
 ;) also mouth looks strange.
 ??? needs to have ? marks like the old one.
 :-\ do you need a reason for this one? [The old one look better and could be used for more purposes that just undecided... -- Archmage]
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Post by: wciow on 11 March 2010, 13:11:13
Repeat after me: Vegetables are bad mmmkay  ;)

Nothing beats frying a big slab of meat! :P (Well maybe melted cheese, but thats not the point)

Even my life long veggie friend loves the smell of bacon frying mmm!

Cheesesteak is the ultimate in food, cheese and steak together genius! The two greatest foods combined into one animal based uber-meal  :P

p.s the new wink smiley is slightly disturbing  ;)
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Post by: Omega on 11 March 2010, 16:14:55
Repeat after me: Vegetables are bad mmmkay  ;)

Nothing beats frying a big slab of meat! :P (Well maybe melted cheese, but thats not the point)

Even my life long veggie friend loves the smell of bacon frying mmm!

Cheesesteak is the ultimate in food, cheese and steak together genius! The two greatest foods combined into one animal based uber-meal  :P

p.s the new wink smiley is slightly disturbing  ;)
Very, very good Wciow. You are making me hungry.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 11 March 2010, 17:00:32
Hey!
Vegetables aren't "bad".......You're a mean person.........making fun of vegetables.................why don't you people go pick on someone your own size......

Speaking of which......how many people have heard that joke about that head woman of England........though I can't remember her name..................... :P
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Post by: John.d.h on 11 March 2010, 18:30:50
Margaret Thatcher?  Queen Elizabeth?
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Post by: -Archmage- on 11 March 2010, 18:58:42
Margaret Thatcher, yes that's it! :D

Here's the joke:

Margaret Thatcher and some other important men go to a restaurant, the waitress asks Margaret what she'll be having, she says roast beef. Then the waitress asks: "what about the vegetables?", and Margaret says: "Oh they'll have roast beef too".

 :P
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Post by: ultifd on 11 March 2010, 23:53:49
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Repeat after me: Vegetables are bad mmmkay   ;)

Nothing beats frying a big slab of meat!  :P
Uh-huh.  ::)

Basically I can't eat all meat for one meal... I need some vegetables... I mean I can, but...  ::)

Ok Ill give a reason.

 :) mouth looks strange.
 ;) also mouth looks strange.
 ??? needs to have ? marks like the old one.
 :-\ do you need a reason for this one? [The old one look better and could be used for more purposes that just undecided... -- Archmage]
Basically, Yep.  ::) and
 :P <---- is just...  ::)
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Post by: Omega on 12 March 2010, 02:46:19
Hmm, I'll take a look at how the smilies worker a bit closer. Do any of you have alternatives for those ones that look similar to the general style of the smilies? Making them myself is last resort, because Paint.NET is very cranky on my lousy computer...

That's true Ultifd, you need some vegetables, but only enough to balance out that steak (BTW: Use saskatchewan steak spice for optimal flavour!).
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Post by: ultifd on 12 March 2010, 02:50:13
Yeah I'm looking around. or maybe researching?  :P  ::)

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That's true Ultifd, you need some vegetables, but only enough to balance out that steak (BTW: Use saskatchewan steak spice for optimal flavour!).
Meat lover.   ::)   :P
:D-with a side grin
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Post by: ElimiNator on 12 March 2010, 03:29:21
Ok Ill give a reason.

 :) mouth looks strange.
 ;) also mouth looks strange.
 ??? needs to have ? marks like the old one.
 :-\ do you need a reason for this one? [The old one look better and could be used for more purposes that just undecided... -- Archmage]
Um, arch can you stop editing my posts? (Unless you have a good reson.)
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Post by: Omega on 12 March 2010, 03:29:43
Yeah I'm looking around. or maybe researching?  :P  ::)

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That's true Ultifd, you need some vegetables, but only enough to balance out that steak (BTW: Use saskatchewan steak spice for optimal flavour!).
Meat lover.   ::)   :P
:D-with a side grin
Very much so! :D
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Post by: -Archmage- on 12 March 2010, 11:39:59
Hey, you guys missed my post:

Margaret Thatcher, yes that's it! :D

Here's the joke:

Margaret Thatcher and some other important men go to a restaurant, the waitress asks Margaret what she'll be having, she says roast beef. Then the waitress asks: "what about the vegetables?", and Margaret says: "Oh they'll have roast beef too".

 :P



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Um, arch can you stop editing my posts? (Unless you have a good reson.)

I have good reasons. Did you want me to make another post, and increase my infinite post count? Do you really think it's oh so smart to make a tiny little post to comment on what you said, when I could just add it myself? And besides, I didn't mess anything up on your post. 8) [I agree! - @kukac@]
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Post by: ElimiNator on 12 March 2010, 16:28:58
But I still don't like it, yah go ahead your not on the highest level yet.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 12 March 2010, 18:15:12
Why does it bother you, it's not harming you in any way, I edit posts as necessary, and I also will add any minor comments I have to someone elses post so I do make an unnecessary microscopic post.
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Post by: John.d.h on 12 March 2010, 18:40:44
Um, arch can you stop editing my posts? (Unless you have a good reson.)
He's playing around with his new powers.  ;D
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Post by: -Archmage- on 12 March 2010, 18:55:48
We need a laughing smiley! :P
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Post by: Hectate on 12 March 2010, 20:16:35
Why does it bother you, it's not harming you in any way, I edit posts as necessary, and I also will add any minor comments I have to someone elses post so I do make an unnecessary microscopic post.
It is an inappropriate use of moderator powers to alter someone's post merely to comment upon it. A moderator's ability to edit others' post is designed to permit administration of the forum's rules - not infringe upon freedom of speech.

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[We gave our names to it. We didn't edit your words, unless it was necessary (it's about me, I don't know about the others). So what's the problem not making +30000 bytes for a new post? - @kukac@]

Edit: Added quotes to your moderator edit. My reply to it is below. - Hectate
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Post by: hailstone on 12 March 2010, 21:23:51
One good reason is that those edits don't show up in your last posts. In a way you don't "own" the post since you're piggybacking off another's post, so they can remove it with your reply in it. It's like having someone in a conversation read out words from a piece of paper instead of speaking for yourself. If you're going to join in the conversation you should do it properly with your own post. They're my thoughts anyway.
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Post by: Hectate on 12 March 2010, 22:11:42
First, it is confusing to others to see a post, attributed to me, with contents attributed to someone else. People less familiar with a forum's features would easily (and rightly) assume that I was merely being ironic or trying to impersonate a moderator.

Second, as mentioned before, it is an abuse of the moderator's power. The purpose of a moderator's power is not to streamline communications with others. It's purpose is to enforce the rules. Edit when edits are required to maintain order, not when you find them convenient.

Third, if your reply isn't worthy of an addition to your post count, "+30000 bytes", or whatever other criteria you deem necessary to be post-worthy, then don't bother posting it. If your additional editorial commentary on my post can't stand on it's own it shouldn't exist at all.

Fourth, read hailstone's reply. He is precisely correct.

Fifth and Final, if my posts are edited for reasons not related to rule violations I will find somewhere else to spend my time. I am an adult and am insulted that somebody else find it acceptable to alter my posts, no matter how trivially. I have spent exactly ZERO time (pick your preferred unit of measure, it'll still be zero) modding or playing Glest in the past 5 months. The reason I am still here is because I enjoy the community interaction with people of similar interests. Reduce my enjoyment in this way and I'll find a different community.

I am completely serious about this. I hope that you value my presence here and will respond accordingly.
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Post by: wciow on 12 March 2010, 22:28:37
Totally agree with Hectate on this.

Glest is still a relatively small community, excessive and bad moderation will see the community drop like flies.

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Post by: ultifd on 13 March 2010, 00:06:59
I agree with Hectate.  ::)

Since there are only around 20ish active people (sometimes 5ish), you, Archamge, shouldn't really...
I mean you are a Moderator for other purposes... more important ones.  :P

Unless, if the community gets more popular...then...  ::)
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Post by: John.d.h on 13 March 2010, 00:43:45
Arch, I had a lot of misgivings about you being appointed as a moderator in the first place, and I think it's turned out pretty much how I expected.  Personally, I never had a problem with Kukac's edits, as they were tasteful and unobtrusive, but what we don't need is a big red edit when somebody posts something you don't like, especially when you're the one who diverted the thread in the first place.

(http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/5650/abusivemoderation1.th.jpg) (http://img193.imageshack.us/i/abusivemoderation1.jpg/)

In short, don't be a jackass.
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Post by: ultifd on 13 March 2010, 00:58:31
^Yeah...  ::)
Besides if hadn't started the OT...then...  ::)
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Which web browser do you guys use?
OS?
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Have you guys tried out 0 A.D. yet? From the gameplay  I watched it seems pretty cool...
compared to Glest is is more "professional"...kinda
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How does this compare to other games?

We are aware of several other open-source RTS games. Glest has reached 'stable' status and is set in a medieval/fantasy world, with less complex gameplay and graphics but with AI opponents (which are not yet implemented in 0 A.D.).
+ Glest has multilayer
+ it now has 8 player...not officially, but that can't be helped...
 ::) :P
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Post by: -Archmage- on 13 March 2010, 01:35:13
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It is an inappropriate use of moderator powers to alter someone's post merely to comment upon it. A moderator's ability to edit others' post is designed to permit administration of the forum's rules - not infringe upon freedom of speech.

Infringe upon freedom of speech?!? I just added a tiny comment, in agreement, I didn't change what he was saying.



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One good reason is that those edits don't show up in your last posts. In a way you don't "own" the post since you're piggybacking off another's post, so they can remove it with your reply in it. It's like having someone in a conversation read out words from a piece of paper instead of speaking for yourself. If you're going to join in the conversation you should do it properly with your own post. They're my thoughts anyway.

It's kinda late to say that, I can't add a post way back there, what's done is done, I could take out my minor comment and edit my closest next post, but seriously, what's the big deal with a little comment, I mean Eliminator himself has told me he would mind being a moderator........I feel like I'm being attacked, I mean seriously, why are you guys making such a big deal out of a little thing like a comment?



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Second, as mentioned before, it is an abuse of the moderator's power. The purpose of a moderator's power is not to streamline communications with others. It's purpose is to enforce the rules. Edit when edits are required  to maintain order, not when you find them convenient.

So are you also attacking Kukac? I have no doubt we can all agree that he's a great moderator, but he's made edits to posts that had nothing to do with enforcing the rules.



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Third, if your reply isn't worthy of an addition to your post count, "+30000 bytes", or whatever other criteria you deem necessary to be post-worthy, then don't bother posting it. If your additional editorial commentary on my post can't stand on it's own it shouldn't exist at all.

Jesus Christ! Does it really matter all that much, look at the scale of the edit, did I obstruct his post in any way? NO!



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Fifth and Final, if my posts are edited for reasons not related to rule violations I will find somewhere else to spend my time. I am an adult and am insulted that somebody else find it acceptable to alter my posts, no matter how trivially. I have spent exactly ZERO time (pick your preferred unit of measure, it'll still be zero) modding or playing Glest in the past 5 months. The reason I am still here is because I enjoy the community interaction with people of similar interests. Reduce my enjoyment in this way and I'll find a different community.

I guess I'll try and remember that.



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I am completely serious about this. I hope that you value my presence here and will respond accordingly.

I do value your presence here, I just wish I could make minor little comments on a post about something as trivial as emoticons without everybody firing off bio-weapons at me.



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Totally agree with Hectate on this.

Glest is still a relatively small community, excessive and bad moderation will see the community drop like flies.

Bad!? This is ridiculous....



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Arch, I had a lot of misgivings about you being appointed as a moderator in the first place, and I think it's turned out pretty much how I expected.  Personally, I never had a problem with Kukac's edits, as they were tasteful and unobtrusive, but what we don't need is a big red edit when somebody posts something you don't like, especially when you're the one who diverted the thread in the first place.

In short, don't be a jackass.


Ok. I see that I should lighten up on Eliminator, it's just that he seems to be attacking me...and my......I don't know....will to fight back I guess........is slanting my posts toward a more angry approach, I'll back off, that won't happen again.



Guys you got to give me chance to settle into a new level of power, I'm not perfect, and emotions, ego, and all the other stupid things the Human body has.....make it impossible to just move to the new level and be perfect from the start. Seriously, all I'm asking from you guys is give me a few chances, and constructive responses so I can adjust better.

Just please don't all pile on me, I'm already very depressed, and the thought of deleting my account here crossed my mind while reading these posts...

I'm not mad at anyone here, I'm just much more depressed...
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Post by: ElimiNator on 13 March 2010, 01:39:42
Ok. I see that I should lighten up on Eliminator, it's just that he seems to be attacking me...and my......I don't know....will to fight back I guess........is slanting my posts toward a more angry approach, I'll back off, that won't happen again.
No I am not attacking you, just asked you not to edit my post unles you realy need to.  (http://www.soft-haus.com/jacob/smiles/cry.gif)
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Post by: -Archmage- on 13 March 2010, 01:40:44
Don't make me mention those suspicious PM's you sent me, that made me feel like I was being interrogated...
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Post by: ultifd on 13 March 2010, 01:45:07
I'm going to repost part of my post.
If you guys really need to...post in a new topic.

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Which web browser do you guys use?
OS?
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Have you guys tried out 0 A.D. yet? From the gameplay  I watched it seems pretty cool...
compared to Glest is is more "professional"...kinda
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How does this compare to other games?

We are aware of several other open-source RTS games. Glest has reached 'stable' status and is set in a medieval/fantasy world, with less complex gameplay and graphics but with AI opponents (which are not yet implemented in 0 A.D.).
+ Glest has multilayer
+ it now has 8 player...not officially, but that can't be helped...
 ::) :P
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Post by: John.d.h on 13 March 2010, 03:17:05
For a while, I was conflicted about what web browser to use, because I like the streamlined interface of Google Chrome, which makes excellent use of my small laptop screen by skipping the status bar and merging the tab bar with the title bar, and I like just about everything else about Firefox, like the extensibility, security, and the fact that I don't have to worry about Google looking over my shoulder and using me for advertising research.  I don't really think Google would install spyware/adware into their browser, but with a closed-source program from a for-profit corporation, you never know.  The solution I found was to use Firefox and install the add-ons "Chromin Frame" and "Personal Menu", and then hiding the statusbar, so the interface mimics Google Chrome almost perfectly.

Regarding operating systems, I use Windows Vista against my will.  My previous laptop had XP, but when I umm... accidentally dropped it down the stairs and cashed in on the accidental damage plan, they replaced it with this Vista-equipped one, much to my dismay.  The one good thing about that is that if Vista weren't so bad, I never would have started experimenting with Linux. ;D Anyway, I had various Linux distros installed on this machine from time to time, finally settling on Ubuntu, but lately I've been having a lot of trouble with my hard drive, and it keeps eating the area where my computer puts my Linux partition, so I'm basically stuck with Vista until I get a new HDD (and probably a new computer altogether), which won't be for quite a while since I'm more than a little bit broke at the moment.  I've tweaked a whole slew of settings to keep it running at a decent speed, like turning off all of the useless visual effects and indexing, so it's relatively tolerable at the moment, but I certainly won't be mourning its loss.
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Post by: Hectate on 13 March 2010, 04:55:27
Let me preface this post by making it clear that I am not upset or angry in any way. I know that it is difficult to properly discern the emotional content of a text-only (barring occasional "smileys" which I tend to not use) communication. Please understand that I was and am writing strictly from the standpoint of a board-member who was concerned with actions that took place by moderators.

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It is an inappropriate use of moderator powers to alter someone's post merely to comment upon it. A moderator's ability to edit others' post is designed to permit administration of the forum's rules - not infringe upon freedom of speech.

Infringe upon freedom of speech?!? I just added a tiny comment, in agreement, I didn't change what he was saying.
That comment was made when I believed that you had actually altered his post. It was my mistake to assume so and I apologize for that. I agree, you didn't infringe on his freedom of speech by way of your edit. That being said, it does not change any of my other concerns with such actions.

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One good reason is that those edits don't show up in your last posts. In a way you don't "own" the post since you're piggybacking off another's post, so they can remove it with your reply in it. It's like having someone in a conversation read out words from a piece of paper instead of speaking for yourself. If you're going to join in the conversation you should do it properly with your own post. They're my thoughts anyway.

It's kinda late to say that, I can't add a post way back there, what's done is done, I could take out my minor comment and edit my closest next post, but seriously, what's the big deal with a little comment, I mean Eliminator himself has told me he would mind being a moderator........I feel like I'm being attacked, I mean seriously, why are you guys making such a big deal out of a little thing like a comment?
Yes, what's done is done. At this point I don't expect you to go back and remove your edit, nor am I asking for you to do so. I've expressed my reasons for concern and it stands that your action was an inappropriate use of moderator privileges. No comment of mine was intended as an attack toward you - I can not speak for anybody else. The cause for making it a "big deal" is to ensure that it does not continue to happen.

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Second, as mentioned before, it is an abuse of the moderator's power. The purpose of a moderator's power is not to streamline communications with others. It's purpose is to enforce the rules. Edit when edits are required  to maintain order, not when you find them convenient.

So are you also attacking Kucac? I have no doubt we can all agree that he's a great moderator, but he's made edits to posts that had nothing to do with enforcing the rules.
You are absolutely correct that Kucac has also made unnecessary edits. In fact, his edit (and not you) of one of my posts is what sparked the one that you quote above. Again, I am not attacking anybody - that includes both of you - but I felt it very important to make it absolutely clear that I would not tolerate such edits and for what reasons - no matter who was involved.

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Third, if your reply isn't worthy of an addition to your post count, "+30000 bytes", or whatever other criteria you deem necessary to be post-worthy, then don't bother posting it. If your additional editorial commentary on my post can't stand on it's own it shouldn't exist at all.

Jesus Christ! Does it really matter all that much, look at the scale of the edit, did I obstruct his post in any way? NO!
Again, the reason it should not have happened is that it was an inappropriate use of moderator privileges.

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Fifth and Final, if my posts are edited for reasons not related to rule violations I will find somewhere else to spend my time. I am an adult and am insulted that somebody else find it acceptable to alter my posts, no matter how trivially. I have spent exactly ZERO time (pick your preferred unit of measure, it'll still be zero) modding or playing Glest in the past 5 months. The reason I am still here is because I enjoy the community interaction with people of similar interests. Reduce my enjoyment in this way and I'll find a different community.

I guess I'll try and remember that.
I really do find it insulting that somebody would find it necessary to alter my post. Imagine, if you will, if someone were to take a mod you've developed and insert commentary without your prior permission or knowledge. Sure, you could remove it - except that if they really feel like it they can just put it back in anytime they like. You may never even know that they did. How would that make you feel?

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I am completely serious about this. I hope that you value my presence here and will respond accordingly.

I do value your presence here, I just wish I could make minor little comments on a post about something as trivial as emoticons without everybody firing off bio-weapons at me.
Thank you. Again, I am not attacking anyone.

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Totally agree with Hectate on this.

Glest is still a relatively small community, excessive and bad moderation will see the community drop like flies.

Bad!? This is ridiculous....
While I can't speak for wciow, I don't see this as being the current case. I see it as merely a comment on the potential for the future. This is about prevention.

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Arch, I had a lot of misgivings about you being appointed as a moderator in the first place, and I think it's turned out pretty much how I expected.  Personally, I never had a problem with Kukac's edits, as they were tasteful and unobtrusive, but what we don't need is a big red edit when somebody posts something you don't like, especially when you're the one who diverted the thread in the first place.

In short, don't be a jackass.


Ok. I see that I should lighten up on Eliminator, it's just that he seems to be attacking me...and my......I don't know....will to fight back I guess........is slanting my posts toward a more angry approach, I'll back off, that won't happen again.



Guys you got to give me chance to settle into a new level of power, I'm not perfect, and emotions, ego, and all the other stupid things the Human body has.....make it impossible to just move to the new level and be perfect from the start. Seriously, all I'm asking from you guys is give me a few chances, and constructive responses so I can adjust better.

Just please don't all pile on me, I'm already very depressed, and the thought of deleting my account here crossed my mind while reading these posts...

I'm not mad at anyone here, I'm just much more depressed...

Arch, you're a good person from everything I've seen out of you on this forum. The same goes for Kucac. Please realize that I also value your contributions to the community and do not want to see you leave.

I think you need to realize that you haven't been "moved to a new level of power". You've been given additional responsibility. This is an important distinction because the Glest forums are not a RPG that you just leveled up on. If you're a moderator you have a job. The simple fact is that if a rule hasn't been violated and nothing needs to be adjusted (such as moving a post to an appropriate board) there should be no reason to use any kind of moderator-specific abilities. Consider yourself as an undercover cop. You're just here to post and read like everyone else - until you see a law broken.

I don't consider this too much to ask of you.



edit: ultifd, John, I apologize for the continuation but I'm sure you understand that I feel it important that I post this.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Hectate on 13 March 2010, 05:28:22
For a while, I was conflicted about what web browser to use, because I like the streamlined interface of Google Chrome, which makes excellent use of my small laptop screen by skipping the status bar and merging the tab bar with the title bar, and I like just about everything else about Firefox, like the extensibility, security, and the fact that I don't have to worry about Google looking over my shoulder and using me for advertising research.  I don't really think Google would install spyware/adware into their browser, but with a closed-source program from a for-profit corporation, you never know.  The solution I found was to use Firefox and install the add-ons "Chromin Frame" and "Personal Menu", and then hiding the statusbar, so the interface mimics Google Chrome almost perfectly.

Regarding operating systems, I use Windows Vista against my will.  My previous laptop had XP, but when I umm... accidentally dropped it down the stairs and cashed in on the accidental damage plan, they replaced it with this Vista-equipped one, much to my dismay.  The one good thing about that is that if Vista weren't so bad, I never would have started experimenting with Linux. ;D Anyway, I had various Linux distros installed on this machine from time to time, finally settling on Ubuntu, but lately I've been having a lot of trouble with my hard drive, and it keeps eating the area where my computer puts my Linux partition, so I'm basically stuck with Vista until I get a new HDD (and probably a new computer altogether), which won't be for quite a while since I'm more than a little bit broke at the moment.  I've tweaked a whole slew of settings to keep it running at a decent speed, like turning off all of the useless visual effects and indexing, so it's relatively tolerable at the moment, but I certainly won't be mourning its loss.
My brother pointed out something called Iron (ironware?) which is a fork of the chrome code that takes out all the privacy issues. But FF sounds like it's working for you, so I digress.
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Post by: hailstone on 13 March 2010, 08:11:17
You spelt Kukac's name wrong  :o, he's going to eat you now. Just joking, but seriously it's Kukac not Kucac.
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Post by: @kukac@ on 13 March 2010, 13:10:33
You spelt Kukac's name wrong  :o, he's going to eat you now. Just joking, but seriously it's Kukac not Kucac.

Yeah, I will eat him! (kukac means worm).

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Second, as mentioned before, it is an abuse of the moderator's power. The purpose of a moderator's power is not to streamline communications with others. It's purpose is to enforce the rules. Edit when edits are required  to maintain order, not when you find them convenient.

You are right, this is the abuse of the moderator powers. However, I don't think that the current "short moderator replies" invade the community's personal influence that much, that it is a problem.

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So are you also attacking Kucac? I have no doubt we can all agree that he's a great moderator, but he's made edits to posts that had nothing to do with enforcing the rules.

I'm wrong in several ways: RainCT and I were the first moderators, and I usually used editing the last posts for "short moderator replies", or I answered right directly where the question was. (except in the several places, where I didn't have moderator rights - since SMF I have everywhere)

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You are absolutely correct that Kucac has also made unnecessary edits. In fact, his edit (and not you) of one of my posts is what sparked the one that you quote above. Again, I am not attacking anybody - that includes both of you - but I felt it very important to make it absolutely clear that I would not tolerate such edits and for what reasons - no matter who was involved.

Feel free to attack me, since I'm also violating several rules and laws with it :P . And I never asked anyone to like me (if someone dislikes me very much, I will just simply punch his face  :D ).

This is a right place to ask for forgiveness for abusing my moderator powers. Sorry Hectate!
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Post by: Hectate on 13 March 2010, 13:31:56
You spelt Kukac's name wrong  :o, he's going to eat you now. Just joking, but seriously it's Kukac not Kucac.

Yeah, I will eat him! (kukac means worm).
Sorry, read it wrong earlier and it just stuck.

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Feel free to attack me, since I'm also violating several rules and laws with it :P . And I never asked anyone to like me (if someone dislikes me very much, I will just simply punch his face  :D ).

This is a right place to ask for forgiveness for abusing my moderator powers. Sorry Hectate!
I never attack, because it's not constructive. This is just a learning experience and it appears to be resolved as far as I'm concerned. Thank you for the apology, and yes, all is forgiven.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 13 March 2010, 13:44:24
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I really do find it insulting that somebody would find it necessary to alter my post. Imagine, if you will, if someone were to take a mod you've developed and insert commentary without your prior permission or knowledge. Sure, you could remove it - except that if they really feel like it they can just put it back in anytime they like. You may never even know that they did. How would that make you feel?

I would beat that persons brains out. :P [Just try it  8) - @kukac@]



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Arch, you're a good person from everything I've seen out of you on this forum. The same goes for Kucac. Please realize that I also value your contributions to the community and do not want to see you leave.

I think you need to realize that you haven't been "moved to a new level of power". You've been given additional responsibility. This is an important distinction because the Glest forums are not a RPG that you just leveled up on. If you're a moderator you have a job. The simple fact is that if a rule hasn't been violated and nothing needs to be adjusted (such as moving a post to an appropriate board) there should be no reason to use any kind of moderator-specific abilities. Consider yourself as an undercover cop. You're just here to post and read like everyone else - until you see a law broken.

I don't consider this too much to ask of you.

Thanks!
Undercover cop........anybody can tell if I'm a moderator or not. ::) [I'm better than you this way :) - @kukac@]



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You spelt Kukac's name wrong  Shocked, he's going to eat you now. Just joking, but seriously it's Kukac not Kucac.

Yeah, I will eat him! (kukac means worm).

Wait......so your name means worm........or do you mean kucac means worm...? ::) [kukac=worm, and in hungarian, you pronounce @ as kukac (in the end, my name in hungarian is: kukac kukac kukac) - @kukac@]



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Sorry, read it wrong earlier and it just stuck.

Uh......good kukac.............. ;D
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 13 March 2010, 20:23:19
Daylight Saving Time is coming...  ::)
We lose one hour...kinda  ::)  :P
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Post by: -Archmage- on 13 March 2010, 20:40:25
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I would beat that persons brains out. Tongue [Just try it  Cool - @kukac@]

First, your 18 right? I'm 12, that's going to be awfully painfully.....
Second, why the hell would I fly to Hungary just to beat your brains out, I'll do it technologically.........muhuhahahhahahahaahahahaahaaha!!!!

*Wham!* *Wham!* *Wham!* *Wham!* *Wham!* *Wham!* *Wham!* *Wham!*, this is fun, let's continue... *Wham!* *Wham!* *Wham!* *Wham!* *Wham!* *Wham!* *Wham!* *Wham!* *Wham!* *Wham!* *Wham!* *Wham!* *Wham!* *Wham!* *Wham!* *Wham!**Wham!**Wham!* *Wham!* Kukacs turn........ *flop* *falls over*.

Yay, I win! :D (I so miss that old cheesy smiley, it was so sarcastic. :P)



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[I'm better than you this way Smiley - @kukac@]

How do you mask yourself, I don't have a clue how to do that. :o



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[kukac=worm, and in hungarian, you pronounce @ as kukac (in the end, my name in hungarian is: kukac kukac kukac) - @kukac@]

So your name is Worm Worm Worm in English.........(Gah, I want that sarcastic smiley!)
Just curious.....why did you pick that name of all the available?
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Post by: ElimiNator on 13 March 2010, 21:32:25
I so miss that old cheesy smiley, it was so sarcastic. :P
do you mean this one (http://glest.org/glest_board/Themes/default/images/post/smiley.gif) this one (http://glest.org/glest_board/Themes/default/images/post/cheesy.gif) or this one (http://glest.org/glest_board/Themes/default/images/post/grin.gif)
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Post by: -Archmage- on 13 March 2010, 21:50:14
The second one.
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Post by: ElimiNator on 13 March 2010, 22:18:22
Ok Ill try to make one like that.
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Post by: ElimiNator on 13 March 2010, 22:40:25
Ok here is my atempt at making one like it, (http://www.soft-haus.com/jacob/smiles/cheesy.png) what do you think?
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Post by: -Archmage- on 14 March 2010, 02:41:28
Great! :D :D
Now if you could just get Omega to put them in........ :-X
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Post by: ElimiNator on 14 March 2010, 03:10:19
We would have some realy cool smiles!

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Post by: ultifd on 14 March 2010, 03:18:16
We would have some realy cool smiles!

(click to show/hide)
Yep.  ;D
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I guess Omega just added this.  :P http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=195
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Post by: John.d.h on 14 March 2010, 03:21:58
(click to show/hide)

lol Awesome.
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Post by: ultifd on 14 March 2010, 03:35:18
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lol Awesome.
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Post by: ElimiNator on 14 March 2010, 04:04:05
(click to show/hide)

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Post by: Omega on 14 March 2010, 04:08:34
And I just added your laughing one too!  :O :O :O
 :angel:

Glad to have gotten everyone's minds off the moderation... While you were paying attention to the smilies, I edited ALL your posts!  :O


Just Kidding. :bomb:
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ElimiNator on 14 March 2010, 04:19:52
Cool!  :O :O :O
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Post by: ultifd on 14 March 2010, 06:49:59
Glad to have gotten everyone's minds off the moderation... While you were paying attention to the smilies, I edited ALL your posts!  :O
Just Kidding. :bomb:
Oh, I really thought you did.  :look:  :bomb:  :P
Cool.  8)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 14 March 2010, 18:55:37
Oh, and I should mention here that the code for the one that was previously ??? was changed to  :confused: so that we could type ??? which is commonly used in normal speach. IMO, smilies should not be easily confused with common speach, thus why most new ones are a word beginning and ending in ':'.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 14 March 2010, 19:20:09
The old eye roll was way better...
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Post by: ultifd on 14 March 2010, 20:28:40
The old eye roll was way better...
Yeah, I know...  ::) wait I wanted to...[/size ]
Which I said...and meant...  :bomb:
I only replaced the ones with the awkward lips that everyone seemed to dislike. I think I'm nearly finished with them now.
I know,  but some of them were ok/better than Eliminator's ones...  ::)
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Post by: @kukac@ on 14 March 2010, 21:01:44
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[I'm better than you this way Smiley - @kukac@]

How do you mask yourself, I don't have a clue how to do that. :D

You really ask? Those "moderator thingies" aren't written near my name :P
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 14 March 2010, 21:15:28
Yah, but how do you get it that way.
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Post by: ElimiNator on 14 March 2010, 21:21:51
And why dose it say banned under your pic? (http://www.soft-haus.com/jacob/smiles/not_know.png)
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Post by: @kukac@ on 14 March 2010, 21:29:58
Yah, but how do you get it that way.

I don't really get what are you trying to say. Maybe: How I ended up not having my rights noticed? Well, I was the first mod, and my rights came from the old board, where we had a different group for moderators, but for some reason, it wasn't transferred here. In the end, we, the old mods (RainCT and me :) ) were left without notification.

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And why dose it say banned under your pic?

Looks like you still don't know me well enough  ;D
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ElimiNator on 14 March 2010, 22:00:06
Looks like you still don't know me well enough  ;D
What do you mean?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 15 March 2010, 19:19:57
At least that last bot was courteous enough to post his spam in Off Topic.  ;D :O
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Post by: -Archmage- on 15 March 2010, 19:53:41
 :O :O :O
I wiped it out. Duh duh duh duh! :P
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Post by: ElimiNator on 16 March 2010, 02:45:42
How do you know he was a bot?
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Post by: John.d.h on 16 March 2010, 03:36:08
As I recall, the title of the thread was something like "sexy 13 year old models" or something like that.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ElimiNator on 16 March 2010, 03:44:33
OK then its a bot.

:O :O :O
I wiped it out. Duh duh duh duh! :P
Goog job  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 16 March 2010, 15:24:49
It was porn ok, I booted it into nothingness, end of story. :O
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ElimiNator on 16 March 2010, 16:42:35
Dose any one here play HeageWarz?
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Post by: -Archmage- on 16 March 2010, 16:56:35
No........that game is really strange, and it has kinda crappy graphics. :P
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Post by: tiger on 16 March 2010, 17:02:10
Dose anyone here play pixel boy? :O
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 16 March 2010, 17:08:35
No...

Does anyone play any version of Dynasty Warriors?
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Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 16 March 2010, 17:11:33
I used to play Dynasty Warriors 4 back when I lived in an apartment with an X-box.  Zhang He was always fun to use because of his super-quick attacks.  The only problem is when fighting Lu Bu, because even when you're maxed out, Zhang He's attacks don't do enough damage to interrupt his combos.  On a related note, DW4 is way less ridiculous than the subsequent games in the series.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 16 March 2010, 17:20:48
I've beat Lu Bu many times before, now I can play as him, and I have his secondary outfit(gold!). :D
I kicked his butt with Zhou Yu, at Hu Lao Gate, Zhou Yu was level 1 at the time, the trick is.......save right before you face him, and never let him hit you, and only use charge attacks and musou attacks, although in DW4 you don't want to use charge attacks against Lu Bu! ;D

You see my profile picture, that's what Lu Bu looks like in my game(Dynasty Warriors 6), to see the pic better, right click and click view image.

I'll make a video of me playing with Lu Bu. 8)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ElimiNator on 16 March 2010, 17:23:36
HeageWarz is fun I think. Not that bad graphics.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 16 March 2010, 17:39:58
Sorry, but I would never trust your judgement when it comes to graphics. ::)
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Post by: ElimiNator on 16 March 2010, 17:48:22
Why?  :(
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Post by: -Archmage- on 16 March 2010, 17:51:16
Nevermind...

I'm using CamStudio, and how the heck do you record a game in fullscreen, and Camstudio lags my game, and then I pause Camstudio and my game runs fine?
Do you guys know ways around this?
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Post by: ultifd on 16 March 2010, 22:50:26
Nevermind...

I'm using CamStudio, and how the heck do you record a game in fullscreen, and Camstudio lags my game, and then I pause Camstudio and my game runs fine?
Do you guys know ways around this?
Wierd... windows right?  ::)
I always use CamStudio...it works perfectly fine...  ::) Very smooth  :thumbup:  :bomb:
Make sure you edit CamStudio's settings... and probably use a different codec than if you are using...  :bomb:  :thumbup:
Are you using the beta or the "stable" version  :confused:
See? Full screen...
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[URL=http://img6.imageshack.us/i/cs1yj.jpg/][IMG]http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/1368/cs1yj.jpg[/img][/URL] [URL=http://img638.imageshack.us/i/cs2o.jpg/][IMG]http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/6083/cs2o.jpg[/img][/URL]These are my settings...the best that works for me at least...maybe higher for you?
First I use this codec x264vfw - H.264/MPEG-4 AVC codec: http://sourceforge.net/projects/x264vfw/
Install it... then these are the settings I use...
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[URL=http://img265.imageshack.us/i/cs3.jpg/][IMG]http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/7379/cs3.jpg[/img][/URL] [URL=http://img265.imageshack.us/i/cs4r.jpg/][IMG]http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/6900/cs4r.th.jpg[/img][/URL]Good Luck.  ;D  :O  :bomb:
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Hectate on 16 March 2010, 23:25:00
I was going to say that, for camstudio, a lot depends on the multitasking ability of your computer. Dual core/processors really help.
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Post by: ultifd on 16 March 2010, 23:26:23
I was going to say that, for camstudio, a lot depends on the multitasking ability of your computer. Dual core/processors really help.
Yeah, that's true.
But I think he mentioned before that he has a nice computer with nice specs...  ::)  :bomb:  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 16 March 2010, 23:27:13
you use i7? that is a true multitaskers... 8)
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Post by: ultifd on 16 March 2010, 23:28:30
you use i7? that is a true multitaskers... 8)
where did you get that?  :O  ::)  :bomb:
Even older processors are ok...  ::) sometimes even great.   ;D
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 16 March 2010, 23:28:57
ulti! your vids are raped with lag! seriously...
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 16 March 2010, 23:30:09
ulti! your vids are raped with lag! seriously...
So, at least they are better then all other other videos on youtube.  ::)
 Upload one yourself, so then you can talk.  :O
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 16 March 2010, 23:31:26
i belive effects can cover YOUR lag, and i think there is a way to smooth videos with lags..
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 16 March 2010, 23:33:23
i belive effects can cover YOUR lag, and i think there is a way to smooth videos with lags..
Well, you are the only person that ever say that it lags...
it doesn't seem to be laggy...
so I don't really care...till a larger audience says so...or if we have a larger community.  8)  :thumbup:  :bomb:
 ;D
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 16 March 2010, 23:47:55
i don`t want you to care, cause if you care, you will spend all your money on a monster rig.... like i did... and it was NOT worth it..
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 17 March 2010, 02:07:18
I guess.  ::) I'' just quote what I first said just in case...  :bomb:
Nevermind...

I'm using CamStudio, and how the heck do you record a game in fullscreen, and Camstudio lags my game, and then I pause Camstudio and my game runs fine?
Do you guys know ways around this?
Wierd... windows right?  ::)
I always use CamStudio...it works perfectly fine...  ::) Very smooth  :thumbup:  :bomb:
Make sure you edit CamStudio's settings... and probably use a different codec than if you are using...  :bomb:  :thumbup:
Are you using the beta or the "stable" version  :confused:
See? Full screen...
Code: [Select]
[URL=http://img6.imageshack.us/i/cs1yj.jpg/][IMG]http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/1368/cs1yj.jpg[/img][/URL] [URL=http://img638.imageshack.us/i/cs2o.jpg/][IMG]http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/6083/cs2o.jpg[/img][/URL]These are my settings...the best that works for me at least...maybe higher for you?
First I use this codec x264vfw - H.264/MPEG-4 AVC codec: http://sourceforge.net/projects/x264vfw/
Install it... then these are the settings I use...
Code: [Select]
[URL=http://img265.imageshack.us/i/cs3.jpg/][IMG]http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/7379/cs3.jpg[/img][/URL] [URL=http://img265.imageshack.us/i/cs4r.jpg/][IMG]http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/6900/cs4r.th.jpg[/img][/URL]Good Luck.  ;D  :O  :bomb:
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 17 March 2010, 19:15:39
SHIT!!!!!!!!!

I have a huge *** problem, and it won't go away, and all the ways to fix it don't work.......
I'VE BEEN ATTACKED BY THE ANTIVIRUS SOFT SCAM, IT STOPS ME FROM DOING ALMOST ANYTHING!!!

Is there any way to fix this, THAT ACTUALLY WORKS!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 17 March 2010, 19:39:34
Nevermind, using HijackThis, I was able to corner and destroy it!!!
My CPU works fine now. :D
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 17 March 2010, 21:58:38
My spider sense is tingling.

(Detecting incoming teen model spam, that is.)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 17 March 2010, 22:02:08
Yah, that's like the third one I've wiped out. :o
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 17 March 2010, 22:40:45
You're such a good moderator, saying...  ::)  :O  :bomb:
Is CamStudio working ok now?  :)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 17 March 2010, 22:57:05
No, Fullscreen doesn't work.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: modman on 17 March 2010, 23:35:57
It doesn't work fullscreen for me either, but when I set Glest to windowed and set the recording zone to that area, it works fine (although a bit choppy...)!
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 18 March 2010, 01:58:30
Weird, it works for me...and it's nice.  ::)   :thumbup:  :bomb:
Oh well...I guess now that...  ::)
-----------------------------------------------------
Happy St. Patrick's Day!  :O  :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 18 March 2010, 13:02:11
Well, what version do you have Ultifd?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 18 March 2010, 22:51:22
Well, what version do you have Ultifd?
Version 2.0 (stableish) and Version 2.5 beta... I use both.  ::)  :bomb:  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 19 March 2010, 00:00:32
Wow... the spam is getting way worse. :S
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 19 March 2010, 00:03:46
Wow... the spam is getting way worse. :S
Same old Same old...  ::)  :thumbdown:
Annoying and stupid. heh/
Archmage is going to have to look at that crap for a lot of times.  ::)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: JavaWolfPro on 21 March 2010, 13:22:21
hey does anyone know to instal Cedega packages on ubuntu
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 21 March 2010, 17:59:49
hey does anyone know to instal Cedega packages on ubuntu
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
Sorry, I don't know actually how to do it...  :|
Good Luck.  :)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 22 March 2010, 20:10:10
Okay guys, I think we're getting a little off topic here.

Wait... sh**. :look:
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 22 March 2010, 20:48:34
 :O
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ElimiNator on 23 March 2010, 19:46:41
 :O  :O we are under

Glest > Off Topic > Off Topic > Off Topic - Main

So I think OT stuff is ok here.

BTW: try out TIM TIME APPLE SQUARE DARE! (http://www.soft-haus.com/jacob/html/tim_time/home.html)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 23 March 2010, 19:58:58
TIM TIME APPLE SQUARE DARE! (http://www.soft-haus.com/jacob/html/tim_time/home.html)
Wow, that was really frustrating, but kinda fun.  At first I thought the squares were going to be randomized, but that would be too evil. :wicked:
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Post by: @kukac@ on 23 March 2010, 20:02:58
Not at all. When you move your mouse over any picture, then you will see a link "down there" (I'm not quite familiar with the English names...), when it's x then it's a fail, when it's a number, then you can click on it.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 23 March 2010, 20:07:42
Not at all. When you move your mouse over any picture, then you will see a link "down there" (I'm not quite familiar with the English names...), when it's x then it's a fail, when it's a number, then you can click on it.
I realized that, but that would have taken all the challenge out of it. :P
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ElimiNator on 23 March 2010, 21:31:20
Yes so don't cheet.  :)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 23 March 2010, 23:35:10
:O  :O we are under

Glest > Off Topic > Off Topic > Off Topic - Main

So I think OT stuff is ok here.

BTW: try out TIM TIME APPLE SQUARE DARE! (http://www.soft-haus.com/jacob/html/tim_time/home.html)
Uh huh....   :O

That was fun...but annoying...  ;D
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ElimiNator on 24 March 2010, 00:43:48
:O  :O we are under

Glest > Off Topic > Off Topic > Off Topic - Main

So I think OT stuff is ok here.

BTW: try out TIM TIME APPLE SQUARE DARE! (http://www.soft-haus.com/jacob/html/tim_time/home.html)
Uh huh....   :O

That was fun...but annoying...  ;D
Why annoying?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 25 March 2010, 04:29:52
:O  :O we are under

Glest > Off Topic > Off Topic > Off Topic - Main

So I think OT stuff is ok here.

BTW: try out TIM TIME APPLE SQUARE DARE! (http://www.soft-haus.com/jacob/html/tim_time/home.html)
Uh huh....   :O

That was fun...but annoying...  ;D
Why annoying?
Because of the repetitive failing, and then the blue "outlining" of the boxes...  :|  ::)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ElimiNator on 25 March 2010, 05:11:20
Can you think of a way to fix this?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 25 March 2010, 05:56:24
Can you think of a way to fix this?
I thought you made it that way.  :|  ::)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ElimiNator on 25 March 2010, 15:52:17
Not the purple and blue edges, they are there by default.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 25 March 2010, 16:28:36
Dude, in the css, use:
Code: [Select]
img{border:0;}

OR

In the HTML, on the image tag, use <img border="0" src="..." alt="..." />

The first method if preferable, but it might need to be a:link, a:visited, and a:active. Not sure if img will work, but I'm 99% sure it does. You can also use the a:link, a:vistited, etc method to change the colors of the links.

Out of fun: I used a javascript debugger and made everyone an apple. What a nice way to win!
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ElimiNator on 25 March 2010, 16:48:25
Thanks  :O
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 25 March 2010, 23:02:04
Quote
Out of fun: I used a javascript debugger and made everyone an apple. What a nice way to win!
:O
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 25 March 2010, 23:13:19
 :O
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ElimiNator on 26 March 2010, 00:40:51
Hay arc don't juts post a smile.  :angel:
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 26 March 2010, 01:13:39
Oh come on, Ultifd already quoted it and put the same smile, I'm just laughing at what he's laughing at. :cheesy:
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 26 March 2010, 01:42:31
Quote
:O
Hay arc don't juts post a smile.  :angel:
Oh come on, Ultifd already quoted it and put the same smile, I'm just laughing at what he's laughing at. :cheesy:
...  :|
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Hmm... it would be interesting if someone spammed smileys... I mean like bots...not people...  ::)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 26 March 2010, 02:16:54
]
Hmm... it would be interesting if someone spammed smileys... I mean like bots...not people...  ::)
Hmm, not really. Anyone heard any good jokes recently?

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/names.png)

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/legal_hacks.png)

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/forgetting.png)

Anyone else want to share their favorites?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 26 March 2010, 02:20:51
Ha, I love xkcd.  :O

Quote
Hmm, not really
I just think it would be more interesting, compared to just links that bots spam, or stupid pics.  :|

Quote
Anyone else want to share their favorites?
I'll see.   ::)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ElimiNator on 26 March 2010, 04:57:07
I didn't get the last one.

]
Hmm... it would be interesting if someone spammed smileys... I mean like bots...not people...  ::)

You mean arch?  :O
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 26 March 2010, 15:40:06
Nice Omega! :O

@Elim: Not funny! :scientist:
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ElimiNator on 26 March 2010, 17:47:15
Is the new theme done? (http://www.soft-haus.com/jacob/smiles/not_know.png) (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5165.msg41931#msg41931)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 26 March 2010, 17:50:06
...

Maybe you should have posted that in the 'Board Changes' topic... :|
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ElimiNator on 26 March 2010, 17:51:25
O sory I thought this was board changes.  :-[
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 26 March 2010, 23:11:25
Oh, wow, I didn't notice the new smiley, since it was in the "more" section..  ::) sweet.  :thumbup: :scientist: :wicked: :scientist: :wicked: :wicked: :scientist: :wicked:
EDIT:
Somewhat true...  ::)  :O
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/linux_user_at_best_buy.png)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 26 March 2010, 23:39:10
Quote
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/linux_user_at_best_buy.png)

 :O :O :O :cheesy:
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 27 March 2010, 00:57:56
If you want to be horrified, watch this: http://www.fat-pie.com/dogofman.htm (http://www.fat-pie.com/dogofman.htm).  Note: not for anyone overly-sensitive to violent cartoon imagery or extreme creepiness.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 27 March 2010, 01:19:15
If you want to be horrified, watch this: http://www.fat-pie.com/dogofman.htm (http://www.fat-pie.com/dogofman.htm).  Note: not for anyone overly-sensitive to violent cartoon imagery or extreme creepiness.
Watched it... Hmm...  :|
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ElimiNator on 27 March 2010, 03:30:30
Oh, wow, I didn't notice the new smiley, since it was in the "more" section..  ::) sweet.  :thumbup: :scientist: :wicked: :scientist: :wicked: :wicked: :scientist: :wicked:
EDIT:
Somewhat true...  ::)  :O
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/linux_user_at_best_buy.png)
:O :O :O :O

I agree.  :P
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 28 March 2010, 00:21:25
Yep. Windows is not too bad though, besides when it is...  :|
Like for 7.
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/windows_7.png)

Hmm...   ::)
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/security_holes.png)

Anyone participating in Earth hour?  ::)  :| www.earthhour.org
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 28 March 2010, 02:31:11
Super awesome one!

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/centrifugal_force.png)

And another not too bad one.

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/voting_machines.png)

I didn't get the last one.
Well, it's a programmers lingo one. I'll try and explain. The guy is deleting pointers, and in a comment, he states that he wishes forgetting was that easy (eg: breakup). Then in the last frame, he puts in an assert statement (a statement generally used to debug, since it simply checks to see if the statement passed through is true (ie: 2+2!=5). Hmm, I think I just took the funny out of the joke with that lousy explaination...
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 28 March 2010, 16:25:31
(http://autocompleteme.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/129138464270951677.jpg?w=500&h=297)

I didn't get the last one.
Well, it's a programmers lingo one. I'll try and explain. The guy is deleting pointers, and in a comment, he states that he wishes forgetting was that easy (eg: breakup). Then in the last frame, he puts in an assert statement (a statement generally used to debug, since it simply checks to see if the statement passed through is true (ie: 2+2!=5). Hmm, I think I just took the funny out of the joke with that lousy explaination...
In addition, one of the security flaws is based on arguably the most ridiculous product placement in a movie ever, and another is from Lord of the Rings.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 30 March 2010, 01:09:07
^Everything

Interesting. Google.  ::)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7yfV6RzE30
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 30 March 2010, 05:25:04
Oh for crying out loud, Google has got to be one of the least "evil" corporations you're likely to find.  It's not like Google Earth is invading anybody's privacy, since the only things it's going to see are things you're doing outside in public. ::)

With that said, I trust Google more than just about any other corporation out there, but you still won't find me using Chrome simply because I don't trust any for-profit advertising/information-based company to not put spyware in their closed-source browser, and they really don't need to know what gaming forums I spend way too much time on, who I facebook stalk the most, or what the password to my bank account is.  However, I use Google Docs to do literally all of my document editing other than coding.  Even if they came out and said "We're tracking everything you do on Google Docs and reading all your documents", I wouldn't even care since the most private stuff they'd be reading would be my anthropology papers, and I think I could easily sacrifice that for the convenience. :P

Considering Google's two biggest competitors are the sad joke called "Yahoo!" and the legions of Hell... err... I mean, Microsoft... I'd say Google is definitely the best choice of the three by a wide margin.

Speaking of ABC, has anyone here seen that new show "Food Revolution"?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 30 March 2010, 06:24:54
Oh for crying out loud, Google has got to be one of the least "evil" corporations you're likely to find.  It's not like Google Earth is invading anybody's privacy, since the only things it's going to see are things you're doing outside in public. ::)

With that said, I trust Google more than just about any other corporation out there, but you still won't find me using Chrome simply because I don't trust any for-profit advertising/information-based company to not put spyware in their closed-source browser, and they really don't need to know what gaming forums I spend way too much time on, who I facebook stalk the most, or what the password to my bank account is.  However, I use Google Docs to do literally all of my document editing other than coding.  Even if they came out and said "We're tracking everything you do on Google Docs and reading all your documents", I wouldn't even care since the most private stuff they'd be reading would be my anthropology papers, and I think I could easily sacrifice that for the convenience. :P

Considering Google's two biggest competitors are the sad joke called "Yahoo!" and the legions of Hell... err... I mean, Microsoft... I'd say Google is definitely the best choice of the three by a wide margin.
I agree...with most of what you said.  :|
The only reason I "posted" that video, was because I found it interesting...  ::)
Google...is...pretty good. Besides regarding "privacy"... and some other stuff...  ::)
Yahoo and Microsoft aren't too bad...at least Yahoo... M$$ is somewhat-ish...
Anyways, they all have their own strengths. And weaknesses. M$$ doesn't need to worry too much. For Yahoo, a little bit...depends.
 ::)

Quote
Speaking of ABC, has anyone here seen that new show "Food Revolution"?
I haven't seen it yet, but I have heard of it and I also saw the trailer...  ::)
It is interesting...  :|
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 30 March 2010, 14:21:32
No guys, Google is evil, you really don't seem to realize that once they can control all of that, they can control you, they can pretty much have whatever they want, and they support Global Warming, which is complete nonsense, and the proof for that is in Al Gore's own video. :O

Google is to powerful, only one good person can truly hold immense power without abusing it, but you have Google, people could trick each other and do all this stuff, Google is almost invunerable, *oh look at those people down there......how should we torment them today Bill?*
*Hahahaha, they'll fire these little tiny lawsuits at us that will be deflected by our immensely powerful energy shielding, oh Joe won't that be funny...*

Meanwhile they're sitting 5000 stories high, in Google Plux, the new worlds tallest skyscraper.

That's my prediction, and don't make me keep going I could go on for hours with this stuff.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 30 March 2010, 16:40:09
I can keep on going because I love google. And I'm not afraid to face you on that!  :archer: :swordman:

Haven't you noticed their awesome logos that change for event (ever seen the morse code one? that was awesome, or try googling 'ASCII Art' and watch their logo).

They are a fun loving corporation that treats their employs well (would be a great place to work, along with Jagex, except a bit closer ;) ).

Seriously, have you seen their april fools jokes? I still remember autopilot (a fake gmail extension that automatically replied for you: see here (http://mail.google.com/mail/help/autopilot/index.html)) or Toilet ISP (http://www.google.com/tisp/).

Sure their ads can be a bit bad at times, but their tracking is often misunderstood. First of all, cookies: Cookies are merely a simply text document that can hold ONE variable and can ONLY be read by the site that created the cookie. Generally, most web browsers are defaultly set to only accept cookies from the site that you are on (ie: youtube can give you a cookie to remember the volume you had last, or to keep you logged on, even if google has an iFrame on that page, they can't give you a cookie. Of course, google OWNS youtube, so...). Cookies at the best can tell if you've visted the site before and if so, how many times. Their tracking ability is limited. Google generally uses ads in two ways:

1. If you search for something, it gives related ads at the top, which I'm sure every person here knows not to use (except in the rare occasion that that ad is what you're looking for).
2. When the webmaster of a site places ads on his/her site. Unlike some company's at least google's ads aren't p0rn or the like! The ads are generally related to the topic.

Of course, google has the biggest advantages of having the best search engine on the net, the best image search ever (did you know there's a game you can play where you tag the images to score points?). Of course, they also have without doubt the BEST free email program ever, as well as an amazing (mostly) open source web browser which has become incredibly popular (advertising on google's homepage can't hurt ;) ), as well as provide many amazing services to people!

Yahoo is a joke, microsoft should stay out of the search engine business, Google is KING.

PS: just for fun, type this into your google search exactly as shown:
Code: [Select]
answer to life, the universe, and everything
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Yggdrasil on 30 March 2010, 17:51:10
http://masterplanthemovie.com/
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 30 March 2010, 18:19:25
Omega, I have a right to privacy, and Google should respect that, I mean we already have plane scanners that show people naked, now imagine if Google could do whatever they wanted and they owned almost everything.......well.......Google would be able to do whatever it wanted to, and who could stop it? No one.

Now, if you haven't noticed, evil tends to act very nice, at least until it has what it wants... ::)



Checking out that video, Yggdrasil...
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 30 March 2010, 19:12:29
I have a right to privacy, and Google should respect that
If you use Google, you consent to their privacy policy.  Simple as that.  You think Bing and Yahoo don't (try to) track you just as much?  Ever order a pizza from Domino's?  You can bet the store has your name, address, and phone number on file.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 30 March 2010, 19:36:48
That's different John, I don't use Google or Yahoo or Bing, or any of that crap, I use Ixquick.

I mean come on, you have to eat, you have to do things, a lot of people pretty much have to know this stuff, so you can buy stuff.

But, a good point is that they are all separate companies, although if one big company new all this stuff, and owned all these places, Google could do anything to you, they could restrict food from certain people, and there just wouldn't be a damned thing you could do about it. Power is very tempting to abuse, I mean, you like to run around shooting people in video games, well what if Google feels like playing some video games?

Seriously watch that video that Yggdrasil linked to, it's very good.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 30 March 2010, 19:55:17
*facepalm*
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 30 March 2010, 19:57:39
You know what, whatever, John, go ahead and like Google, I'll keep my privacy.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ElimiNator on 30 March 2010, 21:52:03
Google is good, Nothin rong with a picture of the earth, BTW arch what is you house adress, Ill take a look on google earth at your home.  ;)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 30 March 2010, 22:50:44
I think Arch's foil hat must be scrambling his brain waves.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 30 March 2010, 22:58:26
You guys are too...  ::)  :O
I mean I post...  :|
Eh, whatever.  ::)

http://masterplanthemovie.com/
Thanks, watching it.  :)  :thumbup:
EDIT: Nice.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 1 April 2010, 16:13:32
I think Arch's foil hat must be scrambling his brain waves.
Indeed. Look's like the truth is out Arch! Seriously, you are being far to paranoid.

Almost every site that has ads, or the like, every forum, and every search engine has some method of tracking. Here's a quick list of examples:

-You are tracked on this board. Your IP adress is logged, which shows your location. In fact, to prove it to you, I'm looking at it right now (though I'll keep it a secret).
-Google may track you, but it is mainly to provide more useful ads (ie: you clicked on that one? Time to show more like it instead of some awkard random toothpaste ad). It doesn't share it with other sites. Rather, it is better than many ad providers like it.
-Many sites, including the glest guide use google analytics, which provides statistics including where in the world most people visit from (quite amazing how diverse the people who vist the GG are! Some from every continent, minus antarctica).

To move the chat away from poor google...
I mean we already have plane scanners that show people naked
Speaking about that, I personally think that people are too worried about terrorist attacks, especially in Canada. Yes, they are terrible, yes 9/11 was horrid, but airports and the like are now far too restrictive. Everyone is far too oversecure, and that's not a good thing. Especially on the Canada/US border, which isn't as open as it should be (IMHO). I distinctly remember a town cradling the border is being split up because some idiot american decided it's a security risk.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 1 April 2010, 23:03:48
Google is Google. End of discussion.  ::) Or should I say, Topeka?  ::)

How bout the new youtube layout guys? Do you like the old one better? And how bout the "textp"...  ::)

Quote
I mean we already have plane scanners that show people naked
Yeah, it is a bit (or a lot) overboard, but then at least there is a lesser possibility of a...  ::)

So yeah, this is life, eh?  :|

No videos from now, everything is messed up...  ::)
April Fools!  :)
Or not, cause it is...  ::)

Happy April Fools!  :O  :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:  :bomb:
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 1 April 2010, 23:21:21
I think I'm going to lock this topic, Google is bad, and if you don't agree, well I'm gonna lock this topic. >:( :scientist:
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 1 April 2010, 23:33:21
I think I'm going to lock this topic, Google is bad, and if you don't agree, well I'm gonna lock this topic. >:( :scientist:
April Fools!  :O  :cheesy: :zzz:
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 1 April 2010, 23:36:02
Haha, now I know you trust me, you know I wouldn't do something like that! :D :D :D

April Fools! :O

No really, I know you trust me! :D
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 2 April 2010, 03:13:59
No really, I know you trust me! :D
We do??? Just kidding, april fools to all (except those in UTC+6 or later, as it's no longer april fools there...)

Also, I decided to scrap the theme and replace it with hardcore porn! :D




... April fools (I think).
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 3 April 2010, 19:18:37
Anyone getting an iPad?  ::)
I mean it's cool, but...  :|
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 3 April 2010, 23:35:59
A hilarious and possibly unsettling article that is a must-read for anybody involved in MMORPGs.
http://www.cracked.com/article_18461_5-creepy-ways-video-games-are-trying-to-get-you-addicted.html (http://www.cracked.com/article_18461_5-creepy-ways-video-games-are-trying-to-get-you-addicted.html)

I'm not saying you shouldn't play them or anything like that (I myself am a big fan of Atlantica Online, as some of you may have gathered), but it's a bit eye-opening to see what's really going on.

PS: As with anything on Cracked.com, prepare for foul language and crude humor.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 4 April 2010, 01:01:15
A hilarious and possibly unsettling article that is a must-read for anybody involved in MMORPGs.
http://www.cracked.com/article_18461_5-creepy-ways-video-games-are-trying-to-get-you-addicted.html (http://www.cracked.com/article_18461_5-creepy-ways-video-games-are-trying-to-get-you-addicted.html)

I'm not saying you shouldn't play them or anything like that (I myself am a big fan of Atlantica Online, as some of you may have gathered), but it's a bit eye-opening to see what's really going on.

PS: As with anything on Cracked.com, prepare for foul language and crude humor.
Interesting...ish.  :|
Umm...I don't have anything to say...after reading that.  ::)  :look:
But uh...good thing Glest isn't like that...or is it?  ::)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: modman on 4 April 2010, 16:11:33
A hilarious and possibly unsettling article that is a must-read for anybody involved in MMORPGs.
http://www.cracked.com/article_18461_5-creepy-ways-video-games-are-trying-to-get-you-addicted.html (http://www.cracked.com/article_18461_5-creepy-ways-video-games-are-trying-to-get-you-addicted.html)

Muy fascinante.  I always wondered how one would engineer a video game like a science, to get you to behave in a way which makes me the most money.  Thanks a lot! :)

This reminds me of Evony (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civony), a game.

Quote from: Wikipedia
The slogans used to advertise the game also frequently included references to a "queen" or a "lover" to save, although there is no queen or lover within the game. Additionally, they frequently state that the user can "play discreetly".
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Post by: ultifd on 4 April 2010, 18:19:37
Yeah, Evony ads sucked...  ::)
They weren't very...  :|
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Post by: modman on 4 April 2010, 18:33:48
(http://darisa.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/guillotine-toilet.jpg)

That'll teach (fer sneaking into my house and relieving yourself)! :O :O :O
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Post by: modman on 5 April 2010, 18:59:31
 :O :O :O

Read the answers to this question!

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AiLXKDKa9.1hhQivyLPBcywjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20100404230027AAYXlmQ (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AiLXKDKa9.1hhQivyLPBcywjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20100404230027AAYXlmQ)

Some of them are quite clever.
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Post by: John.d.h on 5 April 2010, 20:10:45
Speaking of clever stuff on Yahoo Answers, here's a pretty good one: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Ag3_5wwxUVzf_KVv2tq0O__ty6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20090518163950AA00e5q&show=7#profile-info-QRV20RS3aa (http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Ag3_5wwxUVzf_KVv2tq0O__ty6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20090518163950AA00e5q&show=7#profile-info-QRV20RS3aa).
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Post by: -Archmage- on 5 April 2010, 20:12:48
You hardly answered the questions.......

I'm done arguing with you, you probably did evolve, but I didn't, I don't have to explain things to myself, just look around you for god's sake, the signs of a creator are everywhere!

I can walk, because, I learned through trial and error, how to use the muscles that are in my body, and it's quite obvious that my body is DESIGNED to walk.



Nice one John! :cheesy:
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Post by: ElimiNator on 5 April 2010, 20:53:57
Talk about that stuff here (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5156.0).
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Post by: -Archmage- on 5 April 2010, 20:55:07
It wasn't exactly Off-topic... ::)
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Post by: ElimiNator on 5 April 2010, 20:58:44
Well there is a place for that stuff.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 5 April 2010, 21:01:14
Yah, but Modman brought the discussion over here, not me, and I was too lazy to move it back, because I had just gotten back from a bick ride, and I felt like collapsing. :P
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Post by: ultifd on 5 April 2010, 23:57:51
Triple Post for the Win, eh, Modman?  ::) Not really...  :|

Nice video. Too bad for the...  ::)
but that's life.

Yahoo Answers = Fail. Usually.  ::)
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Post by: modman on 6 April 2010, 00:31:07
My bad.  I usually copy the stuff over into Word when I make a long post (so I can save and don't lose my progress) but I posted it in the wrong spot. :-[

Quote from: ultifd
Triple Post for the Win, eh, Modman?

I do what I want.

Deleting...
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Post by: ultifd on 6 April 2010, 00:32:03
Yeah.  ::)
--------
Oh yeah, there was an earthquake near San Diego/ LA in California... (it was in Baja California. ) 7.2.
(http://d.yimg.com/a/p/rids/20100405/i/r3808582097.jpg?x=400&y=268&q=85&sig=SwVd3lvmcB1P8GHhIl1wbQ--)
Good thing I'm not working there,  :| .
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Post by: ElimiNator on 6 April 2010, 05:45:19
Is he dumping the stuff off the shelf...?... :O
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Post by: -Archmage- on 6 April 2010, 11:44:29
Before I read that it was an earthquake, I thought the guy was going crazy. :O
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Post by: ElimiNator on 6 April 2010, 17:22:43
Yah,  :O me too  :O
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 6 April 2010, 21:10:20
I know its kinda late but anyways I thought I might as well say (happy) April Fools
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Post by: John.d.h on 6 April 2010, 22:47:39
Quote from: CNET
Other browsers featured in the week's news include a minor update to Firefox 3.6.3, a commitment from Mozilla to speed up development of hardware graphics acceleration, Firefox's last update to Firefox 3.x, and 10 emergency security patches for Internet Explorer.
I love how when Mozilla is updating and improving their browser, Microsoft is busy desperately trying to keep theirs from killing your computer with malware. ;D
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Post by: ultifd on 6 April 2010, 22:49:53
Quote from: CNET
Other browsers featured in the week's news include a minor update to Firefox 3.6.3, a commitment from Mozilla to speed up development of hardware graphics acceleration, Firefox's last update to Firefox 3.x, and 10 emergency security patches for Internet Explorer.
I love how when Mozilla is updating and improving their browser, Microsoft is busy desperately trying to keep theirs from killing your computer with malware. ;D
:O

Well, the latest update for Firefox was to cover the exploit found by that recent hacking contest.  ::)
Firefox for the Win!  :O  :thumbup:

Is he dumping the stuff off the shelf...?... :O
Before I read that it was an earthquake, I thought the guy was going crazy. :O
:O
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 8 April 2010, 01:46:23
Quote from: CNET
Other browsers featured in the week's news include a minor update to Firefox 3.6.3, a commitment from Mozilla to speed up development of hardware graphics acceleration, Firefox's last update to Firefox 3.x, and 10 emergency security patches for Internet Explorer.
I love how when Mozilla is updating and improving their browser, Microsoft is busy desperately trying to keep theirs from killing your computer with malware. ;D
:O

Well, the latest update for Firefox was to cover the exploit found by that recent hacking contest.  ::)
Firefox for the Win!  :O  :thumbup:

Is he dumping the stuff off the shelf...?... :O
Before I read that it was an earthquake, I thought the guy was going crazy. :O
:O

I love Firefox its my favorite browser and its works really well on my computer plus i know its stupid but i love the name very creative
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Post by: ultifd on 8 April 2010, 01:50:20
I love Firefox its my favorite browser and its works really well on my computer plus i know its stupid but i love the name very creative
Ditto.  :O  :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Post by: ElimiNator on 8 April 2010, 01:59:01
I love Firefox its my favorite browser and its works really well on my computer plus i know its stupid but i love the name very creative
why is it stupid?
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Post by: ultifd on 8 April 2010, 02:03:02
I love Firefox its my favorite browser and its works really well on my computer plus i know its stupid but i love the name very creative
why is it stupid?
Stupid that she loves the name of firefox, firefox...???  ::)
-----------
The next Susan Boyle  ::) Or so people say. You do have to admit, it's nice... BTW, he's a guy.  :|
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA-tOsM6F4Y
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Post by: John.d.h on 8 April 2010, 03:53:38
Ice Weasel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_Weasel), now THAT'S a dumb name for a browser.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 8 April 2010, 04:41:40
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Ice Weasel, now THAT'S a dumb name for a browser.

Yah, but now it's GNUKitty!!!!
Yay, my favorite animal!!!

It's kind of fun to act like your 4  years old sometimes. ;D

But seriously cats are my favorite animal, that's how I met Stephanie. :)
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Post by: John.d.h on 8 April 2010, 07:20:15
Speaking of Firefox, I found a way to get some add-ons working with version they're supposedly not compatible with. 8)
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Post by: -Archmage- on 8 April 2010, 12:39:30
Care to share it with us? :D
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Post by: Gabbe on 8 April 2010, 13:26:41
whos the best browser within these categories: speed, security and noob-friendly?
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Post by: Gabbe on 8 April 2010, 15:14:54
Oh crap... now my windows tells me that support for sp1 is outdated within a wekk or so....

then it is sad that sp2 is unable to install....
can`t play any games...
how much i hate windows...
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Post by: -Archmage- on 8 April 2010, 15:49:14
I've never understood service packs, I've never actually done anything with them......
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Post by: ElimiNator on 8 April 2010, 16:32:51
Oh crap... now my windows tells me that support for sp1 is outdated within a wekk or so....

then it is sad that sp2 is unable to install....
can`t play any games...
how much i hate windows...
Me too  :P Why do yu think I use ubuntu. There is no competition.
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Post by: John.d.h on 8 April 2010, 18:30:13
To get an incompatible add-on to work in Firefox is actually pretty easy.  Basically you have to uninstall your old version of the add-on (if you have it), download it again without installing it (i.e. save link as...).  What you download is an *.xpi, which is just a renamed *.zip that you can open with 7zip or whatever archiver you use.  Inside is a file called install.rdf.  In that file, look for a line that looks like this:
Code: [Select]
<em:maxVersion>3.5.0.*</em:maxVersion>Just change the number and save.  With 7zip and Notepad++, I could edit the file within the archive, but if for some reason you have to extract it to edit it, you can just recompress as a *.zip and change the extension to *.xpi.  Open up Firefox and drag the archive into your browser and it should install on its own.  Note that sometimes an add-on is incompatible for a good reason, but sometimes it's just that the developer doesn't maintain the add-on anymore.  This is the case of Chromin Frame, which is supposedly not compatible with v3.6 or later, but which I'm running just fine on the latest version of Firefox.

(click to show/hide)
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Post by: Gabbe on 8 April 2010, 18:37:10
Oh crap... now my windows tells me that support for sp1 is outdated within a wekk or so....

then it is sad that sp2 is unable to install....
can`t play any games...
how much i hate windows...
Me too  :P Why do yu think I use ubuntu. There is no competition.

-.- if you could play games on Linux it would`ve been awesome...

and the sp1 support runs out on 13 april...And now, they just give me a bot answer, please run windows update.

and that program is unable to run because of a unknown error wich is unable to be located and it only gives me a *** code and the forum guys on the microsoft forums can`t help... it is so annoying/irritating...etc
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Post by: @kukac@ on 8 April 2010, 18:51:52
Cracked Windows

If you own an original Windows XP, you can just send them a message that you require a SP2, and they will send for you by mail (at least they sent for me, and I live in Hungary - where the posting is legendary bad :D ). For free.
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Post by: ElimiNator on 8 April 2010, 22:04:24
Quote
If you could play games on Linux it would`ve been awesome...
Why can`t you play games.
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Post by: ultifd on 8 April 2010, 22:39:34
I've never understood service packs, I've never actually done anything with them......
Well, for some Windows...(s), the service packs were very important...  ::)
Updates, updates, updates.
Speaking of Firefox, I found a way to get some add-ons working with version they're supposedly not compatible with. 8)
Well, I knew (ways) to do that a long time ago...  ::)
Also, if people want, there are ways to use Chrome addons on Firefox...  ::)
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Post by: Omega on 12 April 2010, 00:40:00
@John, that method does work well (I've used it in the past for the extensions people forgot to update). Of course, every now and then one won't work at all because it relies on a removed/changed part of FF.

@Concerning Windows Update: You know, it is possible to get a service pack without windows update. Back on vista, an unknown update was totally screwing my computer up, so I couldn't get Service Pack 1 (which was a requirement for Windows 7). However, I found an exe file that installed Service Pack 1 on my computer meant for people who had to do updates on a large number of computers (naturally, it recommended to use windows update for single computers, but since when do I heed microsoft's advice?). I'm sure there'll be one for you, whatever OS you're on.

Concerning not being able to play games, that should NOT be related to the SP. I tried to update my SP when I had GAE troubles, but it didn't affect it. Only when I updated my graphics card (from the computer manufacturer, not the graphics card manufacturer or windows update).

Having extreme computer troubles? Back everything up, format the HDD, reinstall windows from scratch, add on the files from backup, but reinstall the programs manually. Will take a good day, but works like a charm. Oh, and turn off windows update and screw those horrid auto-update programs (if I really want to update, I think I'll do it myself ;)).

BTW, I just saw a horror movie yesterday called 'Midnight Movie' and it was quite good. Any of you guys seen that?
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Post by: ultifd on 12 April 2010, 01:22:47
@Concerning Windows Update: You know, it is possible to get a service pack without windows update. Back on vista, an unknown update was totally screwing my computer up, so I couldn't get Service Pack 1 (which was a requirement for Windows 7). However, I found an exe file that installed Service Pack 1 on my computer meant for people who had to do updates on a large number of computers (naturally, it recommended to use windows update for single computers, but since when do I heed microsoft's advice?). I'm sure there'll be one for you, whatever OS you're on.
Yeah I did the same thing. But uh, it was for Windows XP. (SP3)
And you mean
Quote
so I couldn't get Service Pack 1 (which was a requirement for Windows 7)
Windows Vista. Although, M$$ wants to say/acknowledge that Windows 7 is Windows Vista, that Vista never happened...  ::)

I never even used Vista, pretty much. I did, for a few months, then upgraded to Windows 7 for free.  :O  :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Quote
@John, that method does work well (I've used it in the past for the extensions people forgot to update). Of course, every now and then one won't work at all because it relies on a removed/changed part of FF.
Yeah, one thing is ietab. Ever used it?  :|

Quote
Having extreme computer troubles? Back everything up, format the HDD, reinstall windows from scratch, add on the files from backup, but reinstall the programs manually. Will take a good day, but works like a charm. Oh, and turn off windows update and screw those horrid auto-update programs (if I really want to update, I think I'll do it myself ;)).
Yep, that is what we have to do when we use Windows...  ::)  :O

Quote
Concerning not being able to play games, that should NOT be related to the SP. I tried to update my SP when I had GAE troubles, but it didn't affect it. Only when I updated my graphics card (from the computer manufacturer, not the graphics card manufacturer or windows update).
Ultimately true.   :|  :thumbup:
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 12 April 2010, 02:39:32
Quote
BTW, I just saw a horror movie yesterday called 'Midnight Movie' and it was quite good. Any of you guys seen that?
No i have not seen that but I love horror movies so i'l check it out what is it about?
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Post by: Gabbe on 12 April 2010, 13:37:35
The sp2 is required for a lot of win7 games...
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Post by: Omega on 12 April 2010, 16:48:49
Quote
BTW, I just saw a horror movie yesterday called 'Midnight Movie' and it was quite good. Any of you guys seen that?
No i have not seen that but I love horror movies so i'l check it out what is it about?
About a guy in a movie who comes into reality.

The sp2 is required for a lot of win7 games...
I've never heard of ONE. Please demonstrate.
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Post by: ultifd on 12 April 2010, 21:36:04
The sp2 is required for a lot of win7 games...
I've never heard of ONE. Please demonstrate.
Yep.  :thumbup:

the xkcd for today is pretty nice...  ::)  :O
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/seat_selection.png)
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Post by: -Archmage- on 12 April 2010, 21:43:22
Nice! :O
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Post by: ultifd on 12 April 2010, 21:45:08
Nice! :O
I know, right? I mean, if that really happened...  ::)  :O
Well, imagine that.
But uh, I also wouldn't really want to be responsible for the lives of many others...  :|
Still cool.  :)

xkcd is so nice...  :thumbup:
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Post by: ElimiNator on 13 April 2010, 03:45:20
You cant realy do that...  ::)
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 13 April 2010, 15:15:18
Nice! :O
I know, right? I mean, if that really happened...  ::)  :O
Well, imagine that.
But uh, I also wouldn't really want to be responsible for the lives of many others...  :|
Still cool.  :)

xkcd is so nice...  :thumbup:

hAHAHA would be so cool if we could actually do that...maybe if no one was on so peoples lives wouldn't be in danger. this reminds me on flying in google earth. has any of you tried that
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Post by: ElimiNator on 13 April 2010, 18:00:12
Never heard of it.
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Post by: Gabbe on 13 April 2010, 18:50:43
The sp2 is required for a lot of win7 games...
I've never heard of ONE. Please demonstrate.
Yep.  :thumbup:

Bad Company 2 is a example....and i belive just cause 2 is the same with....
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Post by: Gabbe on 13 April 2010, 20:10:13
Geeze i hate STEAM! you know what? they added a new game settlers 7 ! :thumbup: awesome! however!:

You have to keep a constant internet connection!
Who has that if theyr not in germany on a LAN party with ubisoft?!?
A constant internt or the game shuts down!
this game punish the customers who pay for it more than the hackers who have cracks to stop the game from shutting down every 5 minutes...
And we can`t do anything as this ass company things that the more people buy the game the more they think: "this was awesome im hungry for more" while it was" fuck you ubi, i can`t play the game at my hut...
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Post by: ultifd on 14 April 2010, 02:01:42
huh...you changed...your name  :|
Anyways, this is related to-
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/perspective.png)
And this was a long time ago.  :|

Youtube:  :|
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/youtube.png)
Seriously, I hate that game.  :|
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/anti_mind_virus.png)
OK, OK, one more. I know I really shouldn't just be embedding tons of images..  ::)
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/literally.png)
One more. This is more related to recent events.  ::)
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/seismic_waves.png)

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Post by: -Archmage- on 14 April 2010, 02:47:07
Nice ones! :D
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Post by: ElimiNator on 14 April 2010, 05:15:14
Yah, especially the literally one.  :O
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 14 April 2010, 13:50:40
I lke the earthquake its so believeable because people actually do say on internet we have an earthquake here but maybe not right away
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Post by: -Archmage- on 14 April 2010, 14:25:59
Not me, I don't own a cellphone, and I don't want one.
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Post by: ultifd on 14 April 2010, 17:23:24
Todays.  :O
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/trade_expert.png)

Nice ones! :D
:thumbup:

Yah, especially the literally one.  :O
Are you sure you ________ meant that?  :O

I lke the earthquake its so believeable because people actually do say on internet we have an earthquake here but maybe not right away
Somewhat, yeah.  ::)

Not me, I don't own a cellphone, and I don't want one.
True, but people still have their comps and such, and then they will tweet, then...  :|

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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 14 April 2010, 18:35:11
ha where do you get those they are funny :)
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Post by: ultifd on 14 April 2010, 18:43:41
ha where do you get those they are funny :)
http://xkcd.com/
 :O
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Post by: Gabbe on 14 April 2010, 19:05:21
watch the grownups one :D
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Post by: ultifd on 14 April 2010, 19:09:42
watch the grownups one :D
This one, right?  :|
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/grownups.png)
 :zzz:
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Post by: Gabbe on 14 April 2010, 19:46:44
(http://jesusandmo.net/strips/2008-06-18.jpg)

I`ve never got this one, can anyoen help please?
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Post by: -Archmage- on 14 April 2010, 23:20:33
That's a joke making fun of Jesus, which is not smart, because, there's tons of proof for Jesus existing.
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 15 April 2010, 11:15:12
That's a joke making fun of Jesus, which is not smart, because, there's tons of proof for Jesus existing.

I think theirs agruements over that too
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Post by: -Archmage- on 15 April 2010, 11:43:25
Let's not get into that.
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Post by: Gabbe on 15 April 2010, 13:19:00
ahh, well it is funny because jesus made wonders, nvm this was OT as there is a OT religious board...
Jesus existeed noone argues, but he was prob mentally ill

OT end, kinda fun thiough, on a OT board... ::)
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Post by: ultifd on 17 April 2010, 20:16:44
http://wildfiregames.com/0ad/
And it is kinda smaller then megaglest...  ::)

I will try it out...later.  ::)
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Post by: Gabbe on 17 April 2010, 20:18:22
I just found this game a day or so when a glest video had it as related...kind of 2d wannabe 3d graphics...
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Post by: ultifd on 17 April 2010, 20:22:18
I just found this game a day or so when a glest video had it as related...kind of 2d wannabe 3d graphics...
True, but it is more professional then Glest.  ::) Have you actually tried it out? Post some screenshots then...  ::)
I can not try it right now, since the computer I am using right now is not my...  ::)
Anyways....
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Post by: Gabbe on 17 April 2010, 20:24:46
Plenty of youtube videos around, but i can, i just have to redownload it from their slow servers...

(OUR "PRESIDENT" HERE IN NORWAY CAN`T GET HOME!!!)
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Post by: ultifd on 17 April 2010, 20:27:15
Youtube= s*it... I mean... see what it does to my videos...  ::)
anyways, I'll see.  :thumbup:
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Post by: Gabbe on 17 April 2010, 20:32:26
geeze? it might be your connection or hardware which is causeing the videos to be a complete hell of lagg...

Lookup some HD videos and watch them in HD and then think of upload your videos in HD :)
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Post by: ultifd on 17 April 2010, 20:38:59
geeze? it might be your connection or hardware which is causeing the videos to be a complete hell of lagg...

Lookup some HD videos and watch them in HD and then think of upload your videos in HD :)
connection...probably not.
hardware...maybe...probably not too. you see, it is fine on my computer.
oh well...the videos aren't too bad...after all...no one else has really tried to upload any...  ::)
what is weird...is that all of my videos are supposedly in HD. (Not really, I think, but you can watch them in HD youtube...)  oh well...
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Post by: Gabbe on 17 April 2010, 20:45:02
1080p would be nice

But the lagg might scare people, and i ahve an idea, go machinima! rawr!
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Post by: ultifd on 17 April 2010, 20:47:07
1080p would be nice

But the lagg might scare people, and i ahve an idea, go machinima! rawr!
K, I will try, if you try and succeed first, k?   ::)  :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
To me, it seems the lag will only scare you for some reason...  ::)  :O Just kidding...
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Post by: Gabbe on 17 April 2010, 21:01:39
my dad refuses to pay the internet speed i need, well, i can let it upload for a week and then go online again but NO WAY! so my video is too big for the moment, everything is awesome edited and so on but it is just too much, 156GB....
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Post by: ultifd on 17 April 2010, 21:10:12
my dad refuses to pay the internet speed i need, well, i can let it upload for a week and then go online again but NO WAY! so my video is too big for the moment, everything is awesome edited and so on but it is just too much, 156GB....
Well, that is 154 GB over the limit on youtube, eh? So no use...
I could do the same thing...but I don't want to waste my time trying to do that...  ::)
It wouldn't matter since youtube compresses your video, then  ::)
oh well.
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Post by: Gabbe on 17 April 2010, 21:29:54
Thats when rendered at the full quality + 3d effects and it is not the AVI file its the SFV file wich is the sony file consisting of WAY more thing, so i guess it is in reality more smaller but that is how much space it uses, with the clips of course and that is extreme...
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Post by: John.d.h on 17 April 2010, 21:37:07
0-AD looks amazing.  I haven't had a chance to try it out yet, but I'm definitely looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: modman on 19 April 2010, 02:57:05
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php)

Ever heard of the Flat Earth Society? :O
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ElimiNator on 19 April 2010, 05:51:09
I just found this game a day or so when a glest video had it as related...kind of 2d wannabe 3d graphics...
What game?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 19 April 2010, 22:37:01
I just found this game a day or so when a glest video had it as related...kind of 2d wannabe 3d graphics...
What game?
0 A.D.  ::) Check before you...  :|
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php)

Ever heard of the Flat Earth Society? :O
Yeah... I did.  ::)  :O
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ElimiNator on 20 April 2010, 02:46:10
But there is no link shot or name? is his post.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 20 April 2010, 03:47:30
But there is no link shot or name? is his post.
Yes, but the post before it states that...  ::) oh well.  :| He was responding...to...  ::)
http://wildfiregames.com/0ad/
And it is kinda smaller then megaglest...  ::)

I will try it out...later.  ::)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ElimiNator on 20 April 2010, 04:53:03
O, OK.  ::)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 20 April 2010, 07:17:20
Today (April 20th) is Adolf Hitler's birthday.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 20 April 2010, 09:57:54
Today (April 20th) is Adolf Hitler's birthday.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY HITLER! HOPE YOU ENJOY IT :D
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 20 April 2010, 22:44:21
Today (April 20th) is Adolf Hitler's birthday.
Yeah...and a bunch of other people too  ::) I mean others...  ::)
Like Muhammad...  ::) Hmm...means nothing really though  :|  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 21 April 2010, 15:33:22
Well, that's one date you won't find marked on anyone's calendar. :P
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 21 April 2010, 19:04:04
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php (http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php)

Ever heard of the Flat Earth Society? :O

I found a topic: "this is a joke site right?"

It has to be LOL

EDIT: this has to be your thingy arch :D
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 22 April 2010, 03:12:34
Well, that's one date you won't find marked on anyone's calendar. :P
Unless it is somebody's birthday.  ::)  :O I mean besides his...  ::)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 22 April 2010, 03:18:27
Say, I've been a bit curious at one point and want to see how many people would agree with my point of view on this issue:

I am strongly against all copyright, patenting, and trademarks. Why? Because I believe they were created so that the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor. ONLY the creator of the patent, copyright, or trademark benefits. All the consumers (which is probably 99.9% of the people) LOSE! Monopoly is BAD, freedom of merchanting and the right to be able to offer all people the same product in their own way is GOOD. Competion (business-wise) is healthy.

I've seen crazy patients and trademarks before, such as the hinge on an out-house door. :o :|

Agree or disagree?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ElimiNator on 22 April 2010, 06:28:47
I agree, you can even copy right different types of cells and genes.  ::)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 22 April 2010, 07:37:39
I disagree.  Developers have a right to market and profit from their creations.  Imagine you invent this great new thing that's going to revolutionize the world and everybody is going to want one.  Now let's say the moment you put your product on the market, somebody else copies it and sells an exact duplicate.  You invented it, but they just mass-produced it faster or marketed it better, so they're getting your profits by stealing your life's work and claiming it as their own.  I think that freedom and open-source are fantastic things, but taking someone's ownership of their ideas away from them is clearly not right.  There's a difference between giving freely and having something forcefully taken from you.  If developers don't have patents and copyrights, then they have no incentive to invent anything new.

Also, I think you're grossly mistaken about the purpose of trademarks.  Trademarks are nothing like copyrights or patents.  They are designed to protect the consumer, not the producer.  When you buy a pair of jeans with the Levi's logo on the back, you know you're buying the genuine article instead of a low-quality knock-off.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 22 April 2010, 08:16:40
Quote
I am strongly against all copyright, patenting, and trademarks. Why? Because I believe they were created so that the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor. ONLY the creator of the patent, copyright, or trademark benefits. All the consumers (which is probably 99.9% of the people) LOSE! Monopoly is BAD, freedom of merchanting and the right to be able to offer all people the same product in their own way is GOOD. Competion (business-wise) is healthy
I disagree.   ::) Mostly. Kinda what John said...  ::)

How about the issue of same-sex marriage and such? I am not against it, or against people who are... Although I probably will never...  ::)

 Eh.   :|
Oh yeah... EARTH DAY!  :)  :thumbup:  :bomb:
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: @kukac@ on 22 April 2010, 15:49:12
I disagree. You can only gain something, if someone else lose that thing. It's one of the undeniable laws. Africa could be rich, but the European and North-American countries take away all of their money. And they don't want that happen with them, that's why they invented the "copyrights".
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 22 April 2010, 16:18:42
You do have good points, but I still stand by my answer. Of course, that still doesn't explain some of the absolutely INSANE patients I've seen. :P
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 22 April 2010, 22:45:48
And that's life.  ::) Er...  :|
or rather related to...  ::)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 23 April 2010, 03:08:58

^Yeah, that was kinda pointless, so I'll give the post a point^


How about the issue of same-sex marriage and such? I am not against it, or against people who are... Although I probably will never...  ::)
I am. It is against the way god made us (it was the first man and woman, not the first two gay men) as well as plain disgusting (are you gonna marry your goat too!?)

BTW, found a crazy patient. See here: http://www.null-hypothesis.co.uk/science//item/crazy_patent_wearable_bird_feedier
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 23 April 2010, 03:18:29
How about the issue of same-sex marriage and such? I am not against it, or against people who are... Although I probably will never...  ::)
I am. It is against the way god made us (it was the first man and woman, not the first two gay men) as well as plain disgusting (are you gonna marry your goat too!?)
Well, I kinda feel the same way. But I am not really against it...either.  ::) Oh well. As for being...I am ok with people who are like that too...unless...  ::)  :|

Quote
  • W00T!
  • Working lists!
  • At last!!!

^Yeah, that was kinda pointless, so I'll give the post a point^


lol
The smilies are mixed up.  :o Also, just saw that quotes are now weird... they are underlined.  ::) must change./
Quote
BTW, found a crazy patient. See here: http://www.null-hypothesis.co.uk/science//item/crazy_patent_wearable_bird_feedier
lol...but in regular "stuff" it is usually not like that...right. :/  ::)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: modman on 23 April 2010, 04:53:48
I'm liking the new link color! :)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ElimiNator on 23 April 2010, 06:47:55
That is not the LINK (http://www.soft-haus.com/jacob/blog/) color yet...
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 23 April 2010, 13:38:58
Uh, yah it is........ :|
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 23 April 2010, 16:27:21
Quotes=fixed
Smilies=Just you
Links=Changed and fixed to Titi's colors
 ;D
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 23 April 2010, 22:43:12
Cool.  :)  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ElimiNator on 24 April 2010, 17:05:41
Well it wasn't when I posted...
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 25 April 2010, 04:01:20
The sun is really cool...or rather...scary?   ::)
(http://sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov/assets/img/firstlight/preview/composite20100330st.jpg)
Did you hear about the new...  ::)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ElimiNator on 25 April 2010, 04:33:19
The new what?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 25 April 2010, 06:49:12
The new what?
"pictures"  ::)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 25 April 2010, 07:06:38
Did you hear about the new...  ::)
Would you actually finish a thought for once? :P
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 25 April 2010, 07:07:13
aren`t there always coming new pictures of the sun?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 25 April 2010, 20:02:48
Did you hear about the new...  ::)
Would you actually finish a thought for once? :P
Well then you people can guess and actually think...  ::)  :O

aren`t there always coming new pictures of the sun?
Yeah...the new pictures of the sun... well these are kinda special...  ::)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 26 April 2010, 00:37:50
Did you hear about the new...  ::)
Would you actually finish a thought for once? :P
Well then you people can guess and actually think...  ::)  :O

aren`t there always coming new pictures of the sun?
Yeah...the new pictures of the sun... well these are kinda special...  ::)

cool  :scientist:
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 26 April 2010, 12:38:49
how r dey specs?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 26 April 2010, 13:36:52
look at this extreme piece of music:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW1jivvdPSw

And these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_5w7ZULPuI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaD2FEeG0po
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXdr_MDlTQs
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 26 April 2010, 19:49:47
The Three Wise Monkeys have names: Mizaru (See no evil), Mikazaru (Hear no evil), and Mazaru (Speak no evil).
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 26 April 2010, 22:51:25
how r dey specs?
multiwavelength extreme ultraviolet
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/sdo/news/first-light.html
i don't know...I just think it is cool  ::)
(http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/446659main1_sdo-img-compare-670.jpg)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 27 April 2010, 18:39:42
to something completely different, if you`ve played runescape, you know the "code-language" they use like:

h1
l00k
fr00b
ch00by
pwnd
pwnzor
haxor

and all that crap.
And you mustve watched LordOfTheRings and seen the last (3) episode: battle for minas tirith.

Watch these vids and you will get sooo exited:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9SHLACwO10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr11c1vF0YE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWhdrlT-iTU
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 27 April 2010, 21:47:47
to something completely different, if you`ve played runescape, you know the "code-language" they use like:
I just started playing and getting into it ha I'm horrible at it though
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 28 April 2010, 01:25:42
Oh comon you'll get better, I'm helping you and giving you lots of stuff, you have a good start. :thumbup:

In a couple weeks I may be wearing the best non-member armor in the game. :D

Stephanie, I'm making like 50,000+ gold a day now, so if you need anything I'll buy it. 8)

Hey Omega, I'm back into Runescape(kinda obvious.... :P), are you still playing it?

BTW, anyone else playing it?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 28 April 2010, 16:56:50
Oh comon you'll get better, I'm helping you and giving you lots of stuff, you have a good start. :thumbup:

In a couple weeks I may be wearing the best non-member armor in the game. :D

Stephanie, I'm making like 50,000+ gold a day now, so if you need anything I'll buy it. 8)

Hey Omega, I'm back into Runescape(kinda obvious.... :P), are you still playing it?

BTW, anyone else playing it?
Yep, add the name 'hofmic'. I'm usually on for a few hours sometime inbetween 7 - 10PM Central Standard Time (GMT-6). I've been in a dungeoneering craze lately...
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 28 April 2010, 18:31:43
Stephanie, just, guidance, do not train your defence, it is completely useless, focus on str and range and you will be unbeatable.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 28 April 2010, 19:47:47
Stephanie, just, guidance, do not train your defence, it is completely useless, focus on str and range and you will be unbeatable.
BAD ADVICE!!!!!! :bomb:

Honestly man, you're worse than those pures (ten to one you are one). Yes, defence does NOT reduce the damage you take, but reduces the chances of hitting them (otherwise powerful players could be invincible to some degree. However, try fighting a simple monster, say a ice warrior with no armor (and no defense), then try fighting it at lvl 60 def (like me) wearing full dragon. Insane difference. Also, higher combat levels = respect, and defense contributes almost 1/3 combat level per defense level.

You will NOT survive long without good defense. Try doing desert treasure (a VERY long and difficult quest) with 1 defense. Trust me, overal well roundedness will be your best friend in the world of Gielinor (that's what the world of Runescape is called).

Contractory to what Gab said, not raising defense (known as being a pure) is NOT recommended for your first account. If you need help, I'm welcome to give you a hand (add 'hofmic'). I am hardly the best or the highest leveled, but my knowledge of the world (and its history, etc;) surpases the average player (and not by a small amount). Either way, enjoy. Once you get used to it (there can be a big learning curve, though Jagex has added a lot since when I first joined) it will be a very exciting game. Enjoy!


While we're on this topic (WOOT), I'll turn the discussion to the old ways. Just how many of you prefered it when the wilderness was the equivilent of a PVP world? I miss that, as well as I still dislike the trade barrier (for example, if I have something worth 500M (a B phat), and I want to sell it, at the best, I can give or take 60k. I can't sell it for say 450M or 600M or the like to a player (though the GE will give me +-5%)). Although I must agree, the GE is a heavensent. Remember the old days of sitting around world 1: "Buying rune plate"? :P
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 28 April 2010, 21:35:42
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BAD ADVICE!!!!!! Bomb

Honestly man, you're worse than those pures (ten to one you are one). Yes, defence does NOT reduce the damage you take, but reduces the chances of hitting them (otherwise powerful players could be invincible to some degree. However, try fighting a simple monster, say a ice warrior with no armor (and no defense), then try fighting it at lvl 60 def (like me) wearing full dragon. Insane difference. Also, higher combat levels = respect, and defense contributes almost 1/3 combat level per defense level.

You will NOT survive long without good defense. Try doing desert treasure (a VERY long and difficult quest) with 1 defense. Trust me, overal well roundedness will be your best friend in the world of Gielinor (that's what the world of Runescape is called).

Contractory to what Gab said, not raising defense (known as being a pure) is NOT recommended for your first account. If you need help, I'm welcome to give you a hand (add 'hofmic'). I am hardly the best or the highest leveled, but my knowledge of the world (and its history, etc;) surpases the average player (and not by a small amount). Either way, enjoy. Once you get used to it (there can be a big learning curve, though Jagex has added a lot since when I first joined) it will be a very exciting game. Enjoy!

You, as a person knowing the world and history? raising a pure gives you the perfect kills and pures make soo much money, i take it you don`t have a pure with lvl 99 str and 60 attack 99 range 99 magic? if you had, you would be in like 70-80 combat, hitting 30s with eese, and for desert treasure, being a pure doing it is hard, though, when you get to the level of actually trying do it, you will be a skilled player, and there are many ways of cheating on it too. the average player would a be a lvl 30 or sumething, and the average player is living in what is worse than hell, a free server. do not do defence, besides, who is so dumb that they goes pvp with full dragon?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 29 April 2010, 00:01:21
Dude, defense it CRITICAL, you cannot survive without it!

Try killing a guy with 99 defense, and he has no armor, good luck buddy, it's going to take a while. :thumbdown:

Stephanie, pay no attention to Gabbe, he has no clue what he's saying.



How the crap did you get an item so valuable Omega?! :o

How can I get one? :D
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 29 April 2010, 02:18:15
Dude, defense it CRITICAL, you cannot survive without it!

Try killing a guy with 99 defense, and he has no armor, good luck buddy, it's going to take a while. :thumbdown:

Stephanie, pay no attention to Gabbe, he has no clue what he's saying.
Agreed, fully and completely! 8) Although you underestimated one point. The defense level will make less difference than the armor. For example, having 60 def and full dragon will net you better defense than 99 and no armor (MUCH).

hitting 30s with eese
30's??? 30's??? Dude, you obviously haven't played for a while, have you? They changed the HP. Renamed it some lame nonsense name and multiplied it by 10. 30 now is equal to 3 before... :scared: Besides, 60 attack isn't good enough for a god sword or whip.

Also, pures DON'T make so much money. In fact, it's much harder to make money because you can't kill anything without a lot of skill or pure luck. Try killing mith dragons (in my opinion, one of the hardest normal foes in RS, not counting one-of-a-kinds like the KQ or KBD) at 1 defense. Getting the dragon full helm would be quite nasty there....  :(
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 29 April 2010, 06:42:09
I've played a couple MMOs in my day.  I think the first one I tried was Martial Heroes, but I couldn't really get that into it.  It's basically like any generic MMO, and set in ancient China.

Then I played Eudemons Online for a while, which is kinda like a cross between Diablo and Pokemon (hard to imagine, but if you played it you'd get what I mean).  I got pretty frustrated with how the PvP system works, in that somebody one or two levels higher can kill you in one hit, made even worse by the fact that paying players had such a huge advantage that free gamers like me stood no chance in PvP and everywhere except the starting map and the insides of towns are freely open to PK (without warning, too, so you tend to get ambushed).  Plus, there's a serious lack of quests and the game is in perpetual beta.  Apparently development has been abandoned in favor of a newer project, which is really just the same game with a futuristic spin on it.  The only really fun part of this game was raising and training your pet monsters.

I tried Talisman Online for a little while, but I couldn't really get that into that one either.  One of my friends got me to play Runes of Magic with her a couple times, but once again it just didn't draw me in.

Atlantica Online has been my only MMO for a couple years now, and I play off-and-on.  I like that there are a ton of quests, so it's not all that grind-heavy, and the cooperation is so much better than in the other games I've played.  There are always people wanting to form parties or inviting you to guilds, and playing with other people is always more fun than playing alone.  Additionally, the combat system is dramatically different (and better) than the other games, kind of Final Fantasy style.  Instead of managing one character, you manage a group of up to nine (you start with about four and then get more as time goes by), and you can swap them out for new and better ones as you gain levels and complete quests.  In this way, you can customize your group to extraordinary level (Want a group of nine spearmen?  Not a good idea, but you can sure do it if you want!).  The combat itself is turn-based but there's a 30-second time limit on each turn, so that keeps it moving fast.  There are also PvP tournaments several times a day, where you're matched against players of a similar skill level (based on win-loss record).  Paying players do have a pretty big advantage, but not enough to spoil the game, and you can beat players with higher levels and better equipment if you're good/lucky.  Also, the auto-move and teleportation features make travel so much easier, especially since the world is really quite big.  I've never tried running from Angkor Wat to Alcatraz, but I'm guessing it would most of an hour if you didn't teleport.  The market system is the best I've experienced, and is driven by supply and demand because you put your items up for sale and you only receive money if/when another player buys it.  The crafting system is quite nice, too.  Basically, Atlantica is the only online game I've played that got just about everything right.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 29 April 2010, 13:25:04
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Agreed, fully and completely! Cool Although you underestimated one point. The defense level will make less difference than the armor. For example, having 60 def and full dragon will net you better defense than 99 and no armor (MUCH).

dragon sucks its so suckish noone wearing it.
Dude, defense it CRITICAL, you cannot survive without it!

Try killing a guy with 99 defense, and he has no armor, good luck buddy, it's going to take a while. :thumbdown:

Stephanie, pay no attention to Gabbe, he has no clue what he's saying.
Agreed, fully and completely! 8) Although you underestimated one point. The defense level will make less difference than the armor. For example, having 60 def and full dragon will net you better defense than 99 and no armor (MUCH).

hitting 30s with eese
30's??? 30's??? Dude, you obviously haven't played for a while, have you? They changed the HP. Renamed it some lame nonsense name and multiplied it by 10. 30 now is equal to 3 before... :scared: Besides, 60 attack isn't good enough for a god sword or whip.

Also, pures DON'T make so much money. In fact, it's much harder to make money because you can't kill anything without a lot of skill or pure luck. Try killing mith dragons (in my opinion, one of the hardest normal foes in RS, not counting one-of-a-kinds like the KQ or KBD) at 1 defense. Getting the dragon full helm would be quite nasty there....  :(

You don`t really think pures are ment to take on lvl 99 defenses do you?

This is wath pures are ment for:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9HYoD0IPa0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auGyzddLfWc

Show me one of your backup claims for that a lvl 70 pure/hybrid would loose against a lvl 70 alltrainer?

Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 29 April 2010, 13:27:35
I've played a couple MMOs in my day.  I think the first one I tried was Martial Heroes, but I couldn't really get that into it.  It's basically like any generic MMO, and set in ancient China.

Then I played Eudemons Online for a while, which is kinda like a cross between Diablo and Pokemon (hard to imagine, but if you played it you'd get what I mean).  I got pretty frustrated with how the PvP system works, in that somebody one or two levels higher can kill you in one hit, made even worse by the fact that paying players had such a huge advantage that free gamers like me stood no chance in PvP and everywhere except the starting map and the insides of towns are freely open to PK (without warning, too, so you tend to get ambushed).  Plus, there's a serious lack of quests and the game is in perpetual beta.  Apparently development has been abandoned in favor of a newer project, which is really just the same game with a futuristic spin on it.  The only really fun part of this game was raising and training your pet monsters.

I tried Talisman Online for a little while, but I couldn't really get that into that one either.  One of my friends got me to play Runes of Magic with her a couple times, but once again it just didn't draw me in.

Atlantica Online has been my only MMO for a couple years now, and I play off-and-on.  I like that there are a ton of quests, so it's not all that grind-heavy, and the cooperation is so much better than in the other games I've played.  There are always people wanting to form parties or inviting you to guilds, and playing with other people is always more fun than playing alone.  Additionally, the combat system is dramatically different (and better) than the other games, kind of Final Fantasy style.  Instead of managing one character, you manage a group of up to nine (you start with about four and then get more as time goes by), and you can swap them out for new and better ones as you gain levels and complete quests.  In this way, you can customize your group to extraordinary level (Want a group of nine spearmen?  Not a good idea, but you can sure do it if you want!).  The combat itself is turn-based but there's a 30-second time limit on each turn, so that keeps it moving fast.  There are also PvP tournaments several times a day, where you're matched against players of a similar skill level (based on win-loss record).  Paying players do have a pretty big advantage, but not enough to spoil the game, and you can beat players with higher levels and better equipment if you're good/lucky.  Also, the auto-move and teleportation features make travel so much easier, especially since the world is really quite big.  I've never tried running from Angkor Wat to Alcatraz, but I'm guessing it would most of an hour if you didn't teleport.  The market system is the best I've experienced, and is driven by supply and demand because you put your items up for sale and you only receive money if/when another player buys it.  The crafting system is quite nice, too.  Basically, Atlantica is the only online game I've played that got just about everything right.

Add this to the report games topic!
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 29 April 2010, 14:38:46
Dude, that guy isn't showing the part where he gets his butt kicked by a guy with defense, he's hitting newbies.

I have 630 health, that guy couldn't kill me so fast, besides, when I was a member I could hit 17's, and now I'm a lot stronger, but I don't have my cool member weapons.

You also have to notice that the guy has an awesome weapon, without that weapon he would do half the damage.

I've killed pures in the arena, they say I have 80 str, and 60 att, and I have 62 att, 62 str, and 61def, his @$$ is kicked!
The guy could really deal some damage, but I could stop most of it, and deal quite a bit of damage myself.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 29 April 2010, 15:19:32
The point is, you have to gimme evidence, my theory is true, and since im a 90+ pures don`t bother me, except for those stupid rangers

and that guy was htting people with atleast 40 defence, look how he owned them, and having a low cb lvl helps you, not opposite...

just cause your saying that you owned him, i can say, "i owned zezima in one hit, cool?"

Quote
You also have to notice that the guy has an awesome weapon, without that weapon he would do half the damage.

Lol, a dragon dagger 50k, and a karils c,bow ? no way thats expensive, and weapons is a part of the combat, a good weapon is always handy...

Without the wep he wouldn`t be able to pk, same as you...

Quote
when I was a member I could hit 17's

Strenght level at the time? Weapon? and im sure it was on a stupid NPC

I can calculate if this is true...

Quote
that guy isn't showing the part where he gets his butt kicked by a guy with defense

All with defence is safers, and all in pvp hate safers, with defence it is almost impossible to win a pvp-match, due to your defence being high, your attack stast will be low, sorry, but if you don`t understand that i must assume your a noob...
A sec and i can upload a video me owning with my pure...
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Post by: Gabbe on 29 April 2010, 15:46:58
A Combat pure is an account  which is created primarily for the purpose of efficient combat. Combat pures often train specific combat skills, while deliberately keeping other combat skills at a minimum in order to excel in certain aspects of combat at a comparatively low combat level. The term "pure" standing alone most commonly refers to this kind of combat pure. Combat pures fall into four categories, depending on the combat classes used: warriors, mages, rangers, and hybrids.

Combat pures focus on training certain skills that they hold most relevant for successful combat and are usually made for player killing (PKing). The purpose of keeping an account "pure", i.e. refraining from training combat skills which are considered less effective or irrelevant for the concept of the account, is to keep the combat level as low as possible in order to excel against players of a similar combat level in PvP. Combat pures tend to generally neglect non-combat skills, although many will train a money making skill such as Woodcutting to be able to buy equipment or to meet quest requirements for a combat-related reward such as Ancient Magicks.
Combat pures are most commonly offence-orientated with high values in one or two offensive skills (Attack, Strength, Ranged and Magic), while having only minimal values in defensive skills, such as Defence, Prayer and/or Constitution. Such pures rely on a fast damage rate and/or a high max hit for quick kills, often catching their opponents off guard.

Why pures own. period.
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Post by: Omega on 29 April 2010, 16:10:49
True, pures do well in PVP combat, but in EVERYTHING else, what Runescape was REALLY made for (would they have a ton of skills if everyone trained only combat?) was balanced players, which make up the vast majority of players.

It seems to me that you are focusing only on PVP combat (which by the way, should NEVER be attempted by a new player) rather than the whole of what RS has to offer. :(
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Post by: Gabbe on 29 April 2010, 16:18:13
i would try to stay pure as logn as possible, but of course, quests fun, pvp is the core...

I would be happy to see how many customers jagex lost when they removed pk system lol
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Post by: Omega on 29 April 2010, 16:27:21
i would try to stay pure as logn as possible, but of course, quests fun, pvp is the core...

I would be happy to see how many customers jagex lost when they removed pk system lol
I think it was like 10-15%???
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Post by: ultifd on 30 April 2010, 02:54:48
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieyD1FfQOIg
Too bad, NASA...  :| At least this time it was a balloon... sucks for the people who invested their time and who made it...  :|  :( Reminds me of the other crashes...but at least this one is not so severe...  ::)
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Post by: Gabbe on 30 April 2010, 12:48:43
What does a "douchebag" or "douche" mean?
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Post by: Omega on 30 April 2010, 16:21:50
Too bad, NASA...  :| At least this time it was a balloon... sucks for the people who invested their time and who made it...  :|  :( Reminds me of the other crashes...but at least this one is not so severe...  ::)
That's true. Remember the challenger? (I think that was the name).  :bomb: :bomb: :bomb:

What does a "douchebag" or "douche" mean?
It's an insult meaning your an idiot or the like. Just know that it means someone flamed you.
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Post by: Gabbe on 30 April 2010, 17:00:10
cause when i win at mw2 i get called a douche or douchebag in the lobby...
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Post by: Omega on 30 April 2010, 19:19:51
cause when i win at mw2 i get called a douche or douchebag in the lobby...
Bad losers. Just ignore em.
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Post by: ultifd on 30 April 2010, 22:36:41
That's true. Remember the challenger? (I think that was the name).  :bomb: :bomb: :bomb:
Yeah, unfortunate. :(  RIP People...

Insults...that is what I hate about online games  :|  ::)
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Post by: John.d.h on 1 May 2010, 00:37:07
A douche is a device for cleaning body cavities, usually referring to the vagina... so basically they're calling you a vagina cleaner.  A lot of people use it as an insult.  Go figure.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 1 May 2010, 03:01:49
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so basically they're calling you a vagina cleaner

 :O :O :O
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Post by: ultifd on 1 May 2010, 03:16:33
OK, One of our moderators is a __________ ...  ::)  :O Also, he is only ___ years old...  :|
Joking,  :|
Does runescape filter this out?  ::)
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Post by: -Archmage- on 1 May 2010, 03:29:43
Fill in the blanks, will you, I don't want to have to guess Arch's age. :P
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Post by: Gabbe on 2 May 2010, 09:00:18
Runescape filters almost everything, it is so stupid...

Sometimes when i try to explain things to people in norwegian server, half my sentence is deleted with *s and it is so annoying because then i have to explain ONE word with THREE sentences, and maybe he does not undertsand it, and i have to try explain it even with longer more complex sentences or even with less complexity and then i have toi use a ton of word making it more sentences and then MAYBE he/she understands it!

Game filters are stupid..
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Post by: ultifd on 2 May 2010, 16:09:49
Yeah, well, the good thing about game filters, is that it saves things from getting "ugly"...  ::)
I mean, some games don't  ::)have filters, and it is kinda...uh...bad.  :|

I've been trying out runescape yesterday, it was ok...  ::)
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Post by: Gabbe on 2 May 2010, 17:06:59
Yeah, well, the good thing about game filters, is that it saves things from getting "ugly"...  ::)
I mean, some games don't  ::)have filters, and it is kinda...uh...bad.  :|

I've been trying out runescape yesterday, it was ok...  ::)

FAIL, you should write like this:

Yeah, well, the good thing about game filters, is that it saves things from getting "ugly"...  ::)
I mean, some games don't  ::)have filters, and it is kinda...uh...bad.  :|

I've been trying out runescape yesterday, it was Super-Awesome!!!!...   :o
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Post by: ultifd on 3 May 2010, 01:49:05
Well...no.  :|
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Post by: Gabbe on 4 May 2010, 17:26:06
Why not?
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Post by: Omega on 4 May 2010, 19:44:15
For once I agree with Gabbe.



Great news, got my new laptop at last.

HP Pavilion
17.3" screen
1600x900 resolution
4GB DDR3 RAM
500 GB HDD
Blu-Ray Disc Drive w/ SuperMulti Burner
1GB ATI HD Graphics Card
Full 101 Key Keyboard
Windows 7 64 Bit
Intel Duo Core Processor (2.23GHz)

Insanely nice, very large laptop that makes me feel like a kid again!!! Very good deal for its price of $1000 (with taxes and environmental fees). The processor isn't the best, but its way better than my 1.87GHz last one and good enough for me. I'd like to update to an i5 or i7 sometime. Anyone know much about how that works?
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Post by: Gabbe on 4 May 2010, 19:47:48
oh god, were can i get one? if i don`t mess up with the currency, thats 60000NOK

Updating laptops can be difficulty sometimes..

I would go for a i5 if you game, but go i7 if you play 5 games at once...

That was a very good laptop for the price, you made yourself a deal...(I mean not sell it to me, you made a good choice like)
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Post by: ultifd on 4 May 2010, 22:32:39
For once I agree with Gabbe.



Great news, got my new laptop at last.

HP Pavilion
17.3" screen
1600x900 resolution
4GB DDR3 RAM
500 GB HDD
Blu-Ray Disc Drive w/ SuperMulti Burner
1GB ATI HD Graphics Card
Full 101 Key Keyboard
Windows 7 64 Bit
Intel Duo Core Processor (2.23GHz)

Insanely nice, very large laptop that makes me feel like a kid again!!! Very good deal for its price of $1000 (with taxes and environmental fees). The processor isn't the best, but its way better than my 1.87GHz last one and good enough for me. I'd like to update to an i5 or i7 sometime. Anyone know much about how that works?
It is ok...  ::)
-------Laptop
Nice!  ::) Even though when you first told me you were going to buy a laptop, the laptop I reccemonded to you had similar specs...  ::) Intel Duo Core? Like Pentium or what...  ::)
Yeah, updating to i5 or i7 would be nice...hmm....  :|  :thumbup:
Gratz.  :O
Now Military can be updated...  ::) ::) ::)
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Post by: Omega on 5 May 2010, 16:18:17
I would go for a i5 if you game, but go i7 if you play 5 games at once...
I tested glest in the highest settings, and easily reached my max frame rate! I also played through assault cube, Nexuiz, and Scorched3D at the highest settings at 1600x900 resolution with flawless gameplay. I'm in love. Dunno why anyone would want to play FIVE games at once though.

"You know what, I'm bored with CoD at the moment, I'll switch to pong for a few seconds for the increased thrill then switch back to blowing brains out. And maybe some tetris and a quick level of Glest too..."

oh god, were can i get one? if i don`t mess up with the currency, thats 60000NOK
Assuming I have the currency right, that's abhout 5 300 NOK. HOWEVER, this was refurbished AND on sale. I'd be hard pressed to find it cheaper. It's a HP Pavilion d7 (Can't remember the exact name... Stupid 5 digit Alphanumeric mixtures. You'd think manufacturers could name their stuff better).


Yeah, I know the processor isn't all that good, but my tests have had all shown it quite nice, and it is better than my last, and not all that much worse than the i5 of a different computer I saw.

Now Military can be updated...  ::) ::) ::)
Yep. I need a few more days to finish installing programs and getting it all ready (makes me feel like a kid again! :D :D :D), but then, yes, it's back to military.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 5 May 2010, 17:07:23
Quote from: Omega
Quote from: ultifd on May 04, 2010, 19:37:27
Now Military can be updated...  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Yep. I need a few more days to finish installing programs and getting it all ready (makes me feel like a kid again! Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy), but then, yes, it's back to military.

Please please please, pretty please with a cherry on top with lots of suger and tons of frosting, fix animations! :D
I could even help you if you want. :thumbup:
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Post by: ultifd on 5 May 2010, 22:46:01
Oh yeah from the personal message
Quote
For specs, I'd prefer a 32 bit OS because I'm more familiar with them and I have NO 64 bit programs and doubt I'll go beyond 4 gigs of RAM. My minimum specs are:

200 gig HDD, preferably 250+
roughly 15" screen, not too large though, but not too small either
ATI graphics card, I'll really have to look up more specifics on this
Wireless N built-in WiFi reciever
At least 4 USB ports (I use every one on my current laptop)
Battery life of at least 2 hours, preferably 3+
2+ gigs RAM (DDR2 or DDR3)
I guess you changed your mind...eh?  :O
---------------
hmm...too bad you can't buy US laptops...some are really good deals  ::)
Like this one...I think. http://www.shopping.hp.com/webapp/shopping/load_configuration.do?destination=review&config_id=4751882&aoid=35252
Then use use coupon code NBSP336958 ... total price 949.99 US... so like 975.26 Canadian...or..dollars or whatever  ::)
What is weird is this is like same specs, besides the i7 processor and the Nvidia Card...  :| oh well...  ::)
Also that

Quote
Yeah, I know the processor isn't all that good, but my tests have had all shown it quite nice, and it is better than my last, and not all that much worse than the i5 of a different computer I saw.
Yeah I think it is at least "good enough"...  ::)

Now Military can be updated...  ::) ::) ::)
Yep. I need a few more days to finish installing programs and getting it all ready (makes me feel like a kid again! :D :D :D), but then, yes, it's back to military.
Sweet.  :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:  :bomb:
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 6 May 2010, 16:33:54
Bout the processor, as long as it isn`t bottlenecking your graphics card it is good enough.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 6 May 2010, 16:34:36
Dude, the american dollar is virtually euqal than the canadian dollar. Here's what google tells me:

1 U.S. dollar = 1.03640046 Canadian dollars
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 6 May 2010, 16:36:04
I`ve never got why the currency has to be different in all countries. it is so  :confused: :confused: :-\
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Post by: @kukac@ on 6 May 2010, 16:43:47
http://www.indavideo.hu/video/Gyoz_a_siraly
 :o
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Post by: Gabbe on 6 May 2010, 16:54:44
Wtf was that i just watched...
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 6 May 2010, 18:46:07
What is that? My school blocked it as 'adult' catigory. I'm probably in trouble now.... :bomb:
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Post by: ultifd on 6 May 2010, 22:33:58
What is that? My school blocked it as 'adult' catigory. I'm probably in trouble now.... :bomb:
Well, school filters are usually not very good...or maybe there was a pornography ad...  :|
--------
Looks like it is from a ABC, American Broadcast company, show... "AFV America's Funniest Home Videos"...probably was just submitted  :| then uploaded...
(click to show/hide)

Dude, the american dollar is virtually euqal than the canadian dollar. Here's what google tells me:
1 U.S. dollar = 1.03640046 Canadian dollars
Who are you talking to? If me, yeah I know that.  ::)
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 7 May 2010, 22:25:57
http://www.indavideo.hu/video/Gyoz_a_siraly
 :o

haha that cat was like so confused

What is that? My school blocked it as 'adult' catigory. I'm probably in trouble now.... :bomb:
ha its a video; today in school i was on school laptops for a project for health and i was bored and i knew school blocks out almost everything like facebook, youtube, ect. anyways i tried getting on here and it worked i was so surprised but unfortunately i couldn't remember my password at that time so i couldn't go on lol next time i get a chance i will
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 10 May 2010, 16:12:46
Look at this INSANE processor, it got 6 cores!!!!!

http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=594273 (http://www.komplett.no/k/ki.aspx?sku=594273)
(http://www.komplett.no/img/p/200/594273.jpg)

It costs 2450 NOK!!!! ima buy one right away! though, i don`t know my socket, anyone help me out?

Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: @kukac@ on 10 May 2010, 16:22:14
How should we know? :O It should be on the box, or if you know the type of your motherboard, you can search it through the internet.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 10 May 2010, 16:53:48
sorry, i mispellled alot, I mean how can i check the socket my motherboard is using, and i do not know what my motherboard is called. However, i know that the machine it came with is called Istart f3215 I tried google and everything, nothing helpz.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 10 May 2010, 21:53:53
Say, here's a good discussion idea: What are your favorite firefox addons?

I'll go with web designer and firebug for sheer usefulness, as well as dTa! simply for awesome downloads as well as FireFTP for managing my site (when the host is working :(). Personas was a great addon, but now its a standard part of firefox (NICE!). You guys?
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Post by: Trappin on 10 May 2010, 22:16:33
Firefox add-ons?

text-to-image

Coral IE Tab (nice for changing browser rendering engines)

Foxit - PDF tool

ad-block plus

No-Script

various search engine plugins:

ixquick
rapid share search - files
BMRK search - files
google vs bing
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Post by: -Archmage- on 10 May 2010, 22:26:53
Omnibar. :thumbup:
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Post by: ultifd on 10 May 2010, 22:32:52
Firefox Addons
I like WOT... Web Of Trust... I guess it is good and bad  ::)

IE Tab, Original, too bad it is not updated... oh well I do not have use for it anymore...when I do I'll uninstall it and try out the Coral IE Tab...  :|
fireFTP useful...

Personas, cool that now it is built in I guess

UnPlug, a "Video Grabber" mainly flash I think

Dictionary, if not included...

And a lot more...that I like...but don't have since I don't use it a lot...  ::)

Firefox is great. It isn't the only one that is good though...  ::)  :O

IE SUCKS. Period.   :-X
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 10 May 2010, 23:33:49
What are you talking about?!
IE is great!!!

Here's why:

-It only takes 1-2 years to load a webpage
-It's easy on your computer, and hogs lots of RAM
-It comes with Windows, everyone's favorite OS!
-It has an E button!!! That makes it the internet!!!
-It's closed-source and has no add-ons!!!
-It's from microsoft, the company who made the wor- best OS ever!!!!!
-I  hat- enjoy using it...
-It's so friggen popular at school, and everybody ha- loves school!
-It's definitely stu- cool!
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 11 May 2010, 00:22:40
And you forgot that every new window that it loads, it loads a new process... great right?  :O
Yeah. I guess.

[I kinda squeezed that in with the hogging lots of RAM  ;D -- Arch]
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Post by: Omega on 11 May 2010, 06:05:30
And you forgot that every new window that it loads, it loads a new process... great right?  :O
Yeah. I guess.
You wish. Microsoft will never do that, that way if one window crashes, they ALL go down! :scientist: :scientist: :scientist:
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 11 May 2010, 10:17:01
What are you talking about?!
IE is great!!!

Here's why:

-It only takes 1-2 years to load a webpage
-It's easy on your computer, and hogs lots of RAM
-It comes with Windows, everyone's favorite OS!
-It has an E button!!! That makes it the internet!!!
-It's closed-source and has no add-ons!!!
-It's from microsoft, the company who made the wor- best OS ever!!!!!
-I  hat- like it...
-It's so friggen popular at school, and everybody ha- loves school!
-It's definitely stu- cool!

haha nice one very creative! (I hat----- love it)
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Post by: -Archmage- on 11 May 2010, 12:19:06
Quote
Quote from: -Archmage- on May 10, 2010, 20:38:37
What are you talking about?!
IE is great!!!

Here's why:

-It only takes 1-2 years to load a webpage
-It's easy on your computer, and hogs lots of RAM
-It comes with Windows, everyone's favorite OS!
-It has an E button!!! That makes it the internet!!!
-It's closed-source and has no add-ons!!!
-It's from microsoft, the company who made the wor- best OS ever!!!!!
-I  hat- like it...
-It's so friggen popular at school, and everybody ha- loves school!
-It's definitely stu- cool!

haha nice one very creative! (I hat----- love it)

Thanks.  :D



And you forgot that every new window that it loads, it loads a new process... great right?  :O
Yeah. I guess.

[I kinda squeezed that in with the hogging lots of RAM  ;D -- Arch]

Don't miss this...........
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Post by: Gabbe on 11 May 2010, 14:44:49
How the hell? do you know how fast Windows 95 and Windows 2000 is? i can actually argue that these OSes were optimized to the extreme.
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Post by: John.d.h on 11 May 2010, 17:42:26
Chromin Tab, Fission, and Personal Menu,.  They're excellent for small screens because they make your browser take up a lot less vertical screen space by merging the tab bar with the title bar (like in Chrome), moving the loading bar to the navigation bar (like in Safari), and collapsing the menu bar into a single button (like in Chrome).  Unfortunately, Personal Menu doesn't work in Linux for some reason.  Personally, I never understood why everyone tries to clutter up as much space at the top and bottom of a screen when all the extra space is on the sides.  It's like turning a brick into a ribbon.

And of course Adblock Plus, but that hardly needs to be mentioned.  That one should come as part of the default installation, imo. ;D

What are you talking about?!
IE is great!!!

Here's why:
You forgot crashing all the time.  That's the best part!  Plus, it's what everybody's grandma uses, so you know it must be cool.

[Thanks -- Arch]
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Post by: Gabbe on 11 May 2010, 18:02:46
Quote
Quote from: -Archmage- on Today at 12:33:49 AM
What are you talking about?!
IE is great!!!

Here's why:
You forgot crashing all the time.  That's the best part!  Plus, it's what everybody's grandma uses, so you know it must be cool.

Windows 95 and 2000 were the best operating system at their time, and with todays hardware? do you know how fast that is?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lITott75L4o

The 95 were made to be running on 300 mhzes, watch it on a 2ghz
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Post by: Omega on 11 May 2010, 19:12:05
Thats actually true. Scarily enough.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 11 May 2010, 19:25:58
wish micro still optimized their OSes...

BTW imagien this on my 6 cores....ahh......
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Post by: John.d.h on 11 May 2010, 19:26:53
Well, if M$ kept making operating systems to the same hardware specifications, they wouldn't be forcing people to buy new computers, and where would be the profit in that? :P

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Designed_obsolescence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Designed_obsolescence)
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Post by: Gabbe on 11 May 2010, 19:31:57
i still ahev a 95, and a 98 actually, but somehow they won`t boot my system  ::) ::) ::)

I guess there are workarounds, but no apps work for them, and those operating systems do no longer have support.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 11 May 2010, 21:21:32
I don't use add-ons for firefox or anything
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Post by: ultifd on 11 May 2010, 22:56:30
This is the past...
Yeah I still have a 2000, and I think a 95...  :|
I don't use add-ons for firefox or anything
Well, that is ok, but one of the best features of firefox is it's addons...  ::) just sayin'

And of course Adblock Plus, but that hardly needs to be mentioned.  That one should come as part of the default installation, imo. ;D
Yeah, it would be really nice...but then Mozilla would have problems regarding the issues of ADs itself...I think the developer of Adblock Plus had that issue one or a few times already...  ::)

But in the end, M$$ is Crap. Well, somewhat. Not 100% BAD  :scientist:, I would say...besides, a lot of people still use it...what are the people who use it...losers? _____s?  ::)  :O
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Post by: Gabbe on 12 May 2010, 13:10:24
Quote
This is the past...
Yeah I still have a 2000, and I think a 95...  No Opinion

It should be the future though, they are much more optimized than ANY OS today, i would say it even beats linux, definately beats mac, but oh well..

And i heard Physx from nvidia was Open Source (!), and thats for all their technologies, but you`ll need a Nvidia GPU to run them...could be kinda nice for glest also...
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 12 May 2010, 13:45:06
Win7 is fast, I've had no problems with it. :P



Reposting this with an important addition from John:

IE is great!!!

Here's why:

-It only takes 1-2 years to load a webpage
-It's easy on your computer, and hogs lots of RAM
-It comes with Windows, everyone's favorite OS!
-It has an E button!!! That makes it the internet!!!
-It's closed-source and has no add-ons!!!
-It's from microsoft, the company who made the wor- best OS ever!!!!!
-I  hat- enjoy using it...
-It's so friggen popular at school, and everybody ha- loves school!
-It's definitely stu- cool!
-And the best part: IE was designed to crash! The crashing feature works perfectly and will make your browsing easier!
-Grannies love IE, so you know IE must be cool!
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 12 May 2010, 14:01:02
Quote
-It's from microsoft, the company who made the wor- best OS ever!!!!!

...
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 12 May 2010, 14:07:58
It is definitely the worst OS. :|

Maybe 2000 was fast and Win7 is good, but it's still expensive and definitely the most annoying OS in the world.

Linux on the other hand is free, fast, not annoying, they actually acknowledge bug reports, and make releases with new features and bug fixes all the time. :)

But I guess I would have to say that Windows is better than Mac.........
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Post by: Gabbe on 12 May 2010, 16:53:07
yeah, win owns mac lol, macs justa  pc 10 timesthe price...
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 12 May 2010, 17:59:32
I've only used Mac a couple times ever, so I really can't say much about the operating system.  The company itself is diabolical as all Hell, though.

http://www.cracked.com/article_18377_5-reasons-you-should-be-scared-apple.html (http://www.cracked.com/article_18377_5-reasons-you-should-be-scared-apple.html)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 12 May 2010, 22:18:59
nice atricle.  :) :)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 12 May 2010, 22:34:05
Windows is more popular than Macs. That's why Apple almost "fell"...before the iPod and such...
I would like a mac, I don't have one, but I've used one before...
I think it is cool, kinda better than Windows in terms of quality, but that's it...something similar...to like all Apple Products...  ::)
Oh yeah, if someone got a mac, then we could test Glest/MegaGlest with Bruce's class...and have better Mac support then.  ::)
In terms of their company or support, I heard it sucks. Not the worst, but kinda bad...  ::)
Like that guy who dropped the iPhone 4G...in a bar...or whatever  :|

Win 7 is nice. M$$ wants people to forget about Vista. I like Windows XP and 7 the best...  :thumbup: For the windows platform  ::)

...
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Post by: Gabbe on 12 May 2010, 22:45:14
my opinion vista werent bad, keeping it for apps and suchs...

I like all oses, and if i could choose, i would want a LINWINBSD OS without the problems of the OSes
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Post by: ultifd on 12 May 2010, 22:48:38
my opinion vista werent bad, keeping it for apps and suchs...

I like all oses, and if i could choose, i would want a LINWINBSD OS without the problems of the OSes
Well, I would say at least when they first released it, it was kinda bad...
Umm...what do you mean "without the problems of the OSes"?
hmm... I guess you could kinda do that with triple booting...or like virtual...thing...eh
but I am pretty sure that isn't your point...  ::)
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Post by: Gabbe on 12 May 2010, 22:53:46
A brand new OS with the features of all the OSes on the market! atleast the good ones A LinWinBSD
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Post by: ultifd on 12 May 2010, 23:21:17
Oh, well, if you have one...I am pretty sure there are ways to make it like you have features of all of them...
but yeah, that would be cool.  :thumbup:
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Post by: Omega on 13 May 2010, 14:14:42
I would like a mac, I don't have one, but I've used one before...
And don't. Even windows is better than the puny macs. They suffer from the same compatibility problems with most programs as Linux (notice how there's no Mac version of glest), but their emulator also costs MONEY! They also are just radically different in ways that make them inferior in my opinion. Stick with linux/windows.
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Post by: John.d.h on 13 May 2010, 17:04:31
I just got Windows 7 on my new machine, and I don't really see a difference between it and Vista.  They didn't even change the icons and system sounds. :P

In fact, I'd say it's even worse because of the idiotic way the taskbar is set up and the annoying "action center" that pops up all the time telling me what to do.  "Back up your files!"  I don't HAVE any files yet, Bill!  They did improve Paint, at least. ::)

Suffice it to say, I'm in the process of installing Linux as we speak.
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Post by: ultifd on 13 May 2010, 22:29:27
I would like a mac, I don't have one, but I've used one before...
And don't. Even windows is better than the puny macs. They suffer from the same compatibility problems with most programs as Linux (notice how there's no Mac version of glest), but their emulator also costs MONEY! They also are just radically different in ways that make them inferior in my opinion. Stick with linux/windows.
Actually there is somewhat of a port, like the linux port...  ::)
but yeah...true.  ::)

I just got Windows 7 on my new machine, and I don't really see a difference between it and Vista.  They didn't even change the icons and system sounds. :P

In fact, I'd say it's even worse because of the idiotic way the taskbar is set up and the annoying "action center" that pops up all the time telling me what to do.  "Back up your files!"  I don't HAVE any files yet, Bill!  They did improve Paint, at least. ::)

Suffice it to say, I'm in the process of installing Linux as we speak.
That's because you just...got...it  ::) just depends on the person...  ::)  :O
Too bad that made movie maker cheap, I also don't like the cheaper version of Microsoft office for vista and 7  :|
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Post by: Gabbe on 14 May 2010, 08:05:20
Windows 7 is faster, when i got my first xp i was sooo confused because everything was with colour and not nearly as fast as my previous 95.

BTW mac doesn`t have programs, games are incompatible, AND it costs the price of a PC 10x the money.

And whats the problem with vista really? (I may not see the problems, my comp is very up to date)
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Post by: Gabbe on 14 May 2010, 08:27:59
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6tOaFUJ9l4

Grass pwned?
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Post by: Gabbe on 14 May 2010, 08:33:24
I just had to get my 700 post really quick....

Woho!
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Post by: @kukac@ on 14 May 2010, 08:39:10
So you are basically aiming for Arch cup? :P
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Post by: Gabbe on 14 May 2010, 08:50:11
Lol, how? Arch is an unbeatable spambot :D :O :O
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Post by: Gabbe on 14 May 2010, 10:21:58
Anyone want some of these casemods?  8) 8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD1zOoY8flM

The one at 2:10 got to be the "coolest" if you get what i mean, and heres a insane rig:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlWx1cDvDs4
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 14 May 2010, 15:26:05
Lol, how? Arch is an unbeatable spambot :D :O :O
I don't think arch is a spambot he posts stuff that is worth reading it is just alot he posts per day and many people can't post as much because he actually comes on and deicates himself to the forum and posts alot
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Post by: Gabbe on 14 May 2010, 15:38:23
It was a joke  :O :O :O
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 14 May 2010, 15:44:55
It was a joke  :O :O :O

yah i know i love continueing jokes longer to make it seem real or funny
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Post by: Gabbe on 14 May 2010, 15:45:58
lmao okay.
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 14 May 2010, 19:13:50
lmao okay.

for example: why did the chicken cross the road... to get to the other side..... (i continue and say something like this:) Well he was getting chased by a angry mob of humans wanting to kill him and he needed to excape U.S and theres a road for a border into Cananda so he had to get to the other side of the road... lol yeah something like that
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Post by: Gabbe on 14 May 2010, 19:35:52
once again, okay.
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Post by: ultifd on 14 May 2010, 22:32:32
For Vista, it was basically only a problem in the earlier stages...since a lot of people upgraded, or the people who did, thought it would be really great, but it was like...bad...atleast till they updated it.  ::)
I just had to get my 700 post really quick....
Oh right, OT King...  ::)
No offense meant...
Yeah Arch is a bad BOT...almost like a human...eh? Also annoying in game too  ::)  :O
Just joking...
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Post by: Gabbe on 14 May 2010, 22:38:37
then what if i said: i really had to get my 734 post real quick...

Whos the spambot now huh!? my title!"  :O :O seriously, would you want one fo the insane casemods in the vid i posted?
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Post by: ultifd on 14 May 2010, 22:43:23
Well, as long as you only "SPAM/whatever/..." in the OT section, then it is fine...  :| In my opinion...  ::)
So whatever. Have fun I guess, but you won't really reach your goal...besides, it does not really matter...  ::)
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Post by: Gabbe on 14 May 2010, 22:47:54
im so confused, what is my goal then?
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Post by: Omega on 15 May 2010, 07:16:17
I dunno... But my goal is deleting your spam and watching you weep at your fallen post count.

"Yahoo! 2000 posts! Oh wait, it's down to 25 now... Oh crap."
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Post by: ultifd on 15 May 2010, 07:41:50
You just don't spam...(for most of the time...) just look at Arch...  ::)  :O
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Post by: Gabbe on 15 May 2010, 07:42:20
i know its sad, i want the title SPAMBOT! ;) ;)
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Post by: ultifd on 15 May 2010, 07:43:42
Well, at least don't get a bad reputation...  ::) Just sayin'...  :look:
at least.  :|
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Post by: Gabbe on 15 May 2010, 07:48:34
okay, in the end i won`t in the begining i wil...probably...okay....perhaps...okay i will not doh! im not programmed to deal with those things, like, whaaa, anyways, did anyone see those pc cases? their insane...
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Post by: Omega on 16 May 2010, 02:49:05
i know its sad, i want the title SPAMBOT! ;) ;)
As a punishment for wanting this, I changed your personal text to SPAMBOT. Feel free to change it back once you realize the title isn't as good as you hoped.
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Post by: ultifd on 16 May 2010, 07:26:51
Hey, it fits...  :O
Just joking...
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OT on an OT thread/??? IDK...
http://forum.archosfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=50&p=222640

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Why I'm so angry with GLest and FreeOrion? Well, it's simple: This games are not playable only because of the bad drivers from Intel. GLest needs OpenGL 1.3, FreeOrion needs OpenGL 2.0. The GMA500 GPU has native OpenGL 2.0 support but the driver from Intel has only support for OpenGL 1.1! :evil:
Too bad...then again, how would glest look like on an tablet???  :|  :O
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archos#Archos_9_PCtablet
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 17 May 2010, 01:42:41
people only spam because they like to have a high post count to look important and well known and really it does not matter.... like look at me i come on here alot and post but not spam or post alot and im kinda known or... oh wait nvm people completly ignore me or don't know me too well :P
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Post by: Gabbe on 17 May 2010, 09:09:05
Your saying things that it is hard to find a response, but my spam is certainly goiong well whatcha think? Omega even gave me the title...

EDIT: ultifid joined after me and look at his count....
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Post by: ElimiNator on 17 May 2010, 17:51:31
EDIT: ultifid joined after me and look at his count....
That is because he was on more and posts in all threads.
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Post by: Omega on 17 May 2010, 19:12:41
LOL Gab. Really though, I try and merge multiple posts if near the same date and delete spam (unfortunately, spam fills my inbox with emails that sound like porn from  people reporting spam! :o

Spaming actually won't help your post count, and I don't notice people's post count too much, I know them more based on personal experience. :)
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 17 May 2010, 22:10:49
people only spam because they like to have a high post count to look important and well known and really it does not matter.... like look at me i come on here alot and post but not spam or post alot and im kinda known or... oh wait nvm people completly ignore me or don't know me too well :P

lol really? i was ignored on that too, lol
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Post by: Gabbe on 17 May 2010, 22:25:16
why did you quote yourself?
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Post by: ultifd on 17 May 2010, 22:53:47
What are you talking about Gabbe? I joined like a day before you...  ::)
Whatever, I don't really care too much...
And yeah, that is because I post everywhere...not just OT, or just one section or two sections  ::)
You:
(http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/2258/ss37.jpg) (http://img52.imageshack.us/i/ss37.jpg/)
Me...:
(http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4111/ss38c.jpg) (http://img205.imageshack.us/i/ss38c.jpg/)
And sometimes I do not think the stats really make sense, but usually I don't look at them anyways...  ::)  :O
So, anyways...you will probably past me at least, and I wouldn't really care...Just maintain a good reputation...  ::)
So like now...you are OK...I guess...
And post count does not really matter too much IMO... just your rep.  :|
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Youtube tuns fiveish... great...  :| I guess
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Post by: Gabbe on 17 May 2010, 23:02:51
if i wanted to i could post everywere.

So no i am just ok  :( oh well then i must work harder with my reputation (post count is like a milestone on your reputation right?)

BTW: i am just okay and not good pure coz your vids lagg and im only one dare to say :D
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Post by: ultifd on 17 May 2010, 23:08:15
if i wanted to i could post everywere.

So no i am just ok  :( oh well then i must work harder with my reputation (post count is like a milestone on your reputation right?)

BTW: i am just okay and not good pure coz your vids lagg and im only one dare to say :D
IDK.
OK, whatever makes you feel good  :)  :thumbup:
Although, you always fail at making your super high quality vid  :(
Well don't worry...one day we would all exceed...
Then again it is easy for me, I could just replace my vid. card...  ::)
Hmm...it seems you are the only one that cares...a lot  ::)
if i wanted to i could post everywere.
Then do it...it isn't hard...just provide valuable feedback and such, while still having fun in the OT section I guess...  :|

Whatever you want. This is just a forum...but it is very important to Glest...  ::)
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Post by: Gabbe on 18 May 2010, 06:12:51
I am not sure if my feedback is qualified everywere, as in tileset and maps and such, i`ve never made a tile...
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 18 May 2010, 15:45:21
lol really? i was ignored on that too, lol
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why did you quote yourself?

Don't question the power of STEPHANIE! (i think my post count is going down; the last time i checked i had 88 i thought)
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Post by: @kukac@ on 18 May 2010, 15:47:07
High post count doesn't give you reputation. Who has more reputation, Arch or Titi? :D
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Post by: Gabbe on 18 May 2010, 16:06:04
titi i think, because he makes megaglest.

*milestone  :| :|

If tit had 12 post count, how famous? pullo were good coder and made a "new" engine based on GAE, his reputation rose, is he as famous as titi? why not? hes a coder...
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Don't question the power of STEPHANIE!

I question anyones power, ANYONE! :O
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Post by: wyvern on 18 May 2010, 16:09:24
Titi definitely.
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Post by: Gabbe on 18 May 2010, 18:08:34
no way :D okay, i think that one was aimed at me.
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Post by: ElimiNator on 18 May 2010, 21:14:23
Titi for sure, but Arch is pretty famous for his huge amount of posts every where...
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Post by: Gabbe on 18 May 2010, 21:15:07
yea, arch is ;)
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Post by: ultifd on 19 May 2010, 04:24:43
Whatever. I give (almost/usually) EQUAL amount of respect and such to everyone on this community...  ::)
Titi, no offense to Arch.
Titi and Softcoder, the GAE team, the Glest Team, Kukac, and a bunch of all people...I think have good rep.  ::)
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Eh, just found this...kind weird  ::)
http://glestocorporation.com/
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Post by: ElimiNator on 19 May 2010, 04:48:27
Eh, just found this...kind weird  ::)
http://glestocorporation.com/
Yah, what is that?
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Post by: ultifd on 19 May 2010, 04:50:29
Eh, just found this...kind weird  ::)
http://glestocorporation.com/
Yah, what is that?
I don't know  :|
Just a company or site that has a similar name to Glest I guess...  ::)
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Post by: -Archmage- on 19 May 2010, 06:00:27
I've only been here for like a year and almost a half now, but I have a high post count, AND I'm well known!!! (Right guys? :look:) ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 19 May 2010, 10:11:00
High post count doesn't give you reputation. Who has more reputation, Arch or Titi? :D

well titi is know for what he does and arch is known for his high post count so there kinda both equal
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Post by: wyvern on 19 May 2010, 14:28:16
Arch is known, but not for his work or contributions, which is why titi is well known
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Post by: Gabbe on 19 May 2010, 14:58:54
HEY! arch got great opinions hes lieka grand old modder! :D
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Post by: wyvern on 19 May 2010, 15:13:22
He's a good modder but titi's contributions are best known
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Post by: Gabbe on 19 May 2010, 15:15:21
list the mods arch have made.. He got great opinions and takes all the experiences other modders have had and then pack them into a answer to your question, archs like the answer-database cause hes been like evrywere on the forums...
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Post by: ElimiNator on 19 May 2010, 15:40:54
Arch mostly helps on mods other people are doing, like dwarvs and romans, others too.

Right arch?
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Post by: Gabbe on 19 May 2010, 15:42:20
Arch gets his experience from others, but what you elim said is also what i ment :O
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Post by: -Archmage- on 19 May 2010, 17:05:19
Thanks for the support Gabbe.



Yay, I'm an answer database!
I guess so.



As I said a while ago, I made a good piece of a mod, but I got bored with it. Although I might pick that up again..........

I also designed Fantasy Romans and did some of the 3D Art along with Eliminator(who did most of it).



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arch got great opinions hes lieka grand old modder!

Thanks, but I'm not old really............. :P
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Post by: Gabbe on 19 May 2010, 17:09:23
grand young modder*
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Post by: -Archmage- on 19 May 2010, 17:12:52
 :O

Anybody want to see my latest animation work? :D

Then maybe I can claim a place of top animator or something. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
(Not trying to be arrogant here, I just think I can animate relatively well)
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Post by: wyvern on 19 May 2010, 17:15:29
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Anybody want to see my latest animation work? Cheesy
Of course we will Arch grand young old modder. :D :D :thumbup:
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Post by: Gabbe on 19 May 2010, 17:17:09
lmao wyvern...

Arch, would love to! if i gave you a fully rigged aweosme model, could you animate it for me like, realistic and stuff, a real high polygonal count? i gutta use my new 6 cores yknow...
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Post by: wyvern on 19 May 2010, 17:19:11
 :O :O :O :O
Actually I do want to see Arch's work
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Post by: -Archmage- on 19 May 2010, 19:13:11
Ok, I'll upload it later. :P



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if i gave you a fully rigged aweosme model, could you animate it for me like, realistic and stuff, a real high polygonal count?

Maybe. ;D
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Post by: ultifd on 19 May 2010, 22:35:39
Better being young(er) to be old...(er) or not  ::)
Yeah Arch's work is good  :thumbup:
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Post by: Omega on 20 May 2010, 04:21:17
Arch(:bomb:) or Omega(:thumbup:)?

 8)
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Post by: ultifd on 20 May 2010, 05:43:26
IDK...(No, seriously, I don't...)  ::)

Well, neither I guess...maybe someone else...  :|
How about me? ultifd( ::) )
Wait... what?  :confused:  :|
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Post by: -Archmage- on 20 May 2010, 15:09:10
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Yeah Arch's work is good  Thumb Up

Thanks! :D



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Arch(Bomb) or Omega(Thumb Up)?

Arch, Arch, Arch!!! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D



Uploading my latest work...........in like an hour........
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 20 May 2010, 15:31:30

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Uploading my latest work...........in like an hour........

I would love to see your work
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Post by: -Archmage- on 20 May 2010, 15:43:56
I should probably explain is great detail why it'll be about an hour before I upload:

It's not done yet. :P

Standing: Done.....might touch up a little.....
Walking: Done.....might touch up a little.....
Running: Done
Attacking: Done
Dying: WIP

BTW: I'm just uploading a .blend file for 2.4 series(Blender 2.5 sucks =P).
Maybe someone could help me make a gif or something for non-Blender users like Stephanie.
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Post by: wyvern on 20 May 2010, 16:36:20
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Arch(Bomb) or Omega(Thumb Up)? ultifd( Roll Eyes )
I personally say none of the above, Omega has the really cool military mod and participates in other work, Arch did some nice tutorials and participates in several factions, Ultifd makes Glest movies that are fun to watch, and he gives a lot of advice, I'm not sure about his other work though
what about Wyvern( :O)
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Post by: -Archmage- on 20 May 2010, 18:48:25
Downloade, ze anemated modtell here (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5207065/Glest%20Files/Axeman.blend). ;D

Released under the GPL license.
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Post by: wyvern on 20 May 2010, 18:53:16
Great model :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Post by: -Archmage- on 20 May 2010, 19:07:39
Thanks, but I really want to hear about the animations, I didn't do much to the model, Tucho did most of the model.
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Post by: John.d.h on 20 May 2010, 19:48:46
Maybe someone could help me make a gif or something for non-Blender users like Stephanie.
https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=4454.0
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Post by: wyvern on 20 May 2010, 19:50:22
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Great model Thumb Up Thumb Up Thumb Up
When I said this I meant everything including animations
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Post by: ultifd on 20 May 2010, 22:28:59
So historical romans is off???  :|
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Post by: ElimiNator on 20 May 2010, 23:04:50
O yah, BTW arch I released 3 new Vbro packs. The new Romans is in pack 3. Do you want me to upload only the Roman tech for you?
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Post by: -Archmage- on 21 May 2010, 00:37:15
Thanks, then! :D :D :D

John, I read that topic already, the problem is that I don't really understand your instructions.



Historical Romans is going to happen months from now.



Fantasy Romans is yours now, Elim, but call it Fantasy Romans.
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Post by: ultifd on 21 May 2010, 00:44:41
K.
3 packs? I thought there were only two...  ::)
Well the problem (I guess) is that the main post of the fantasy romans is Arch's...  ::)
But yeah...please do I guess...  :thumbup:
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Post by: Gabbe on 21 May 2010, 14:14:26
Somewhat in the mtfuckin hell did my bloody processor downclock to 803 MHZ, How da hell do i overclock it again?

:bomb:
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Post by: Omega on 21 May 2010, 15:56:43
No way arch. That'd ruin it completely! :bomb:



In other words, thought I'd spice up the conversation with two of my favorite comics:

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/pep_rally.png)

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/a-minus-minus.png)
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Post by: ElimiNator on 21 May 2010, 16:37:03
No way arch. That'd ruin it completely! :bomb:
What?

@ Arch I don't think I will change the name, just call yours historical.
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Post by: ultifd on 21 May 2010, 22:52:58
Pacman! And, Miss Pacman...  ::)
Fun, fun, fun, I guess...  ::)
(http://www.google.com/logos/pacman10-hp.png)
Eh, google...  ::)  :O
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idLG6jh23yE
I wonder how much it cost...to...make this...  ::) Eh.  :|
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Nice...Omega.  :thumbup:

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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 21 May 2010, 23:43:40
Pacman! And, Miss Pacman...  ::)
Fun, fun, fun, I guess...  ::)
(http://www.google.com/logos/pacman10-hp.png)
Eh, google...  ::)  :O
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haha i saw that earlier... i came on here just to say that... oh well you beat me to it .... and its the best thing i ever saw on google... also its a playable game sooooo coooooooooool
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Post by: ultifd on 22 May 2010, 00:07:46
Yes... I also wish I could someone how find a way to download it...
although it is just script and such...  ::)
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Post by: ElimiNator on 22 May 2010, 00:30:57
You can download it. Frist go to google click on the game so it comes on, then click tools button on the top bar of your browser. Under that press Page-Info. In that window select media the click on:
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http://www.google.ca/logos/swf/pacman10-hp-sound.swf                         Object
Then click save as.
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Post by: ultifd on 22 May 2010, 00:37:31
You can download it. Frist go to google click on the game so it comes on, then click tools button on the top bar of your browser. Under that press Page-Info. In that window select media the click on:
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http://www.google.ca/logos/swf/pacman10-hp-sound.swf                         Object
Then click save as.
yeah, i thought of that...
but it doesn't work, as it shows a light blue screen...right>  :|
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 22 May 2010, 00:41:16
You can download it. Frist go to google click on the game so it comes on, then click tools button on the top bar of your browser. Under that press Page-Info. In that window select media the click on:
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http://www.google.ca/logos/swf/pacman10-hp-sound.swf                         Object
Then click save as.
yeah, i thought of that...
but it doesn't work, as it shows a light blue screen...right>  :|

thanks but im on a laptop and it doesn't show any tools stuff but anyways thanks
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Post by: ultifd on 22 May 2010, 01:20:49
thanks but im on a laptop and it doesn't show any tools stuff but anyways thanks
He means...like in firefox...  ::)
(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/4200/ss72.jpg) (http://img694.imageshack.us/i/ss72.jpg/)
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god I kinda don't like it when unread posts do not show up...  ::)
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 22 May 2010, 01:29:35
thanks but im on a laptop and it doesn't show any tools stuff but anyways thanks
He means...like in firefox...  ::)
(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/4200/ss72.jpg) (http://img694.imageshack.us/i/ss72.jpg/)
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god I kinda don't like it when unread posts do not show up...  ::)
haha now it works... um that never happens to me (that i know of)

also can you play the game after you save it or would it just keep the picture?
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Post by: ultifd on 22 May 2010, 02:35:52
haha now it works... um that never happens to me (that i know of)
also can you play the game after you save it or would it just keep the picture?
well, if you actually successfully save it...then we can always "play" the game...
but it seems we can't...
I guess we have to use the waybackmachine some other day...  ::)

[Fixed quote -- Arch]
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 22 May 2010, 14:23:41
haha now it works... um that never happens to me (that i know of)
also can you play the game after you save it or would it just keep the picture?
well, if you actually successfully save it...then we can always "play" the game...
but it seems we can't...
I guess we have to use the waybackmachine some other day...  ::)

[Fixed quote -- Arch]


lol playing on google is so much funner and interesting anyways i hope they keep the game for a long time
I know they keep it for today too so maybe, just maybe....
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Post by: Gabbe on 22 May 2010, 14:26:15
they prob get requests from everyone to keep it  :O :O
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Post by: ElimiNator on 22 May 2010, 16:00:52
Yah
You can download it. Frist go to google click on the game so it comes on, then click tools button on the top bar of your browser. Under that press Page-Info. In that window select media the click on:
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http://www.google.ca/logos/swf/pacman10-hp-sound.swf                         Object
Then click save as.
yeah, i thought of that...
but it doesn't work, as it shows a light blue screen...right>  :|
O yah... It normily works..
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Post by: Omega on 22 May 2010, 17:29:01
BTW, that will NOT work. That only saves a sound archive. Google has nicely hidden how it works to keep people from downloading it... :(
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Post by: ultifd on 22 May 2010, 20:14:05
Yeah, I know...that's Google.
It will be harder than usual to do that...  ::)
I think it's pretty cool and stuff....
I mean if you do that, Elim, you'll get all the scripts and stuff, and maybe the sprites, but that's all...
Google isn't dumb.   ::)
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Post by: Gabbe on 22 May 2010, 20:19:57
ofc google is dumb, thats why they have such a oversimplified searchengine.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 22 May 2010, 20:23:25
ofc google is dumb, thats why they have such a oversimplified searchengine.
Which is why they are #1 of the top 3, and that they had issues with the censorship of China...
Yeah, you are absolutely right  :thumbup:
They are kinda "dumb" sometimes...
But I'm just saying...for the pacman logo thing, they are kinda...smart?  :|
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Post by: Gabbe on 22 May 2010, 20:24:45
deyr hoarders!!!
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 22 May 2010, 22:34:03
BTW, that will NOT work. That only saves a sound archive. Google has nicely hidden how it works to keep people from downloading it... :(
smart smart smart. Why wouldn't they want people to download, it is cool
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 22 May 2010, 22:35:52
deyr hoarders!!!
? um weird......

OMG I WANT TO CONGRAGULATE (ha spelled sooo wrong) ME ON MY 100TH POST YAY ME ...  to me that took a long time and its alot of posts so yea... :)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 22 May 2010, 22:43:07
Gratz, your almost as much spambot as me!
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Post by: ultifd on 22 May 2010, 23:11:42
Well you two aren't really beating the "smart" real spambots...  ::)
they are kinda smart now...somewhat.
they try to say something related...then they put the links...  ::)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 23 May 2010, 01:53:05
Well you two aren't really beating the "smart" real spambots...  ::)
they are kinda smart now...somewhat.
they try to say something related...then they put the links...  ::)

oh really who *looks around*  ::)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spambot   :P

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Gratz, your almost as much spambot as me!
um yea ALMOST!  :O
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Post by: ultifd on 23 May 2010, 07:02:53
Um...ok.
---------------------------
Oh wow...so fast...
Super Mario Galaxyyy 2!  :O
Sweet...
The other one was cool too, but really only for some multiplayer action...  ::)
Cool.
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 23 May 2010, 11:51:03
Um...ok.
---------------------------
Oh wow...so fast...
Super Mario Galaxyyy 2!  :O
Sweet...
The other one was cool too, but really only for some multiplayer action...  ::)
Cool.

? random much
I love mario games! also zelda and kirby- notice a patern i like mostly aventure games
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Post by: Gabbe on 23 May 2010, 12:01:47
put them in the reprot games topic  ;)
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 23 May 2010, 12:05:05
put them in the reprot games topic  ;)

haha too bad we can only vote once because then I would vote for so many, but im still keeping my runescape vote :D

BTW i like your signature
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 23 May 2010, 12:38:22
:o didnt Omega fix that by now?

:D
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Post by: ultifd on 23 May 2010, 18:31:12
I would Gabbe...but then there are too many games...
and no, I am pretty sure we can vote more than one...or vote again...you can remove your vote...  ::)
(http://i46.tinypic.com/16h9gt1.jpg)
And no, it wasn't random...we don't have to continue on about any subject...since this is the main,  ::)
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Post by: Gabbe on 23 May 2010, 18:48:06
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And no, it wasn't random...we don't have to continue on about any subject...since this is the main,  Roll Eyes

And thats supposed to indicate what?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 23 May 2010, 18:49:55
Um...ok.
---------------------------
Oh wow...so fast...
Super Mario Galaxyyy 2!  :O
Sweet...
The other one was cool too, but really only for some multiplayer action...  ::)
Cool.
? random much
And no, it wasn't random...we don't have to continue on about any subject...since this is the main,   ::)
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Too bad, Google Pacman is gone  ::)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 23 May 2010, 18:52:57
NOOOOO! i had a window with it open and then now it is gone?!?!?! NOOOO!
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Post by: ultifd on 23 May 2010, 18:54:40
NOOOOO! i had a window with it open and then now it is gone?!?!?! NOOOO!
If you are talking about Googl Pac, then yeah...people will find a way...maybe there already is...  ::)
if not, I am  :confused: ...  :|
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 23 May 2010, 19:23:53
packman glest...
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 23 May 2010, 19:48:52
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-OaE_Armks
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 24 May 2010, 00:56:49
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Too bad, Google Pacman is gone  ::)
yah I know I saw I was sooo sad :(  nooooooooooo the world has has to an end without pacman
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Post by: ElimiNator on 24 May 2010, 01:30:00
You can still play the Google pack man here (http://www.google.com/pacman/)... And you can play pacman here (http://www.freepacman.org/)...
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 24 May 2010, 02:13:56
You can still play the Google pack man here (http://www.google.com/pacman/)... And you can play pacman here (http://www.freepacman.org/)...

haha cool the second one is soooo much hard and the ghost goes so much faster plus i like the word google in google pacman game.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 24 May 2010, 02:42:20
God, I was going to make a suggestion to google to do that...thanks,  :)  :thumbup:
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Post by: -Archmage- on 24 May 2010, 15:42:16
Hey, how many of you have played Crysis?

I have to have it on minimum settings so it doesn't lag, and it still lags sometimes anyway.

For anyone who has, I'm on the level after the Korean dude takes the 'container' from the train in his helicopter.
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Post by: Gabbe on 24 May 2010, 15:48:49
Do you want help?

Here is the official crysis forum, if it is help you want, i think you`ll get it here:http://crymod.com/forums.php?sid=a024937ce087c875abadb09ba4c60b25 (http://crymod.com/forums.php?sid=a024937ce087c875abadb09ba4c60b25) + mods so you can set the graphics to ULTRA HIGH or ULTRA LOW with hacked res down a lot.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 24 May 2010, 15:56:48
No, I'm doing fine.

What are your favorite guns?
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Post by: Gabbe on 24 May 2010, 16:00:49
Speed mode and strenght mode with bare hands and probably a gun, deadly combo!

for guns, i don`t really use them other than multiplayer: missile launcher and FY71 and i had a time when precision rifle or whatever the name was...
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Post by: -Archmage- on 24 May 2010, 16:12:50
I like all the guns =P.

How do you switch grenade types?
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Post by: Gabbe on 24 May 2010, 16:15:45
Loong time ago, i don`t remember, i think you switched modes with MMB but im not sure... but i did post a official crysis forum...

Was the sotry good? are you going to buy crysis2?
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Post by: -Archmage- on 24 May 2010, 16:19:14
I like it.

Are there like 3 games: Crysis, Crysis Warhead, and Crysis2?
I have Crysis Warhead......
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 24 May 2010, 16:33:09
Crysis warhead crysis wars crysis crysis 2 release before 2011

there are other games made with cryengine: FarCry FarCry2 and some others i can`t remember
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 25 May 2010, 00:03:23
nice conferstaion care to chagne to include everyone and its not boring. lol I don't play it

umm does anyone here like cats more than dogs because I hate dogs....  I'm a huge cat lover  :D
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Post by: ElimiNator on 25 May 2010, 01:31:32
I have a dog... actualy 2, no cats though...
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Post by: ultifd on 25 May 2010, 02:06:29
I got some fish... ::)  :O
Oh I found this...if you want to play Google Pacman offline...
Download Google Pacman: How To Still Play Without Google Doodle|HuffPost (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/23/download-google-pacman-ho_n_586429.html)
LINK: http://www.mediafire.com/?kml3oz0mwyy ... (Not me, someone else, maybe from Google?  :|)
is ok, nothing bad...yet  :|
seems fine for me, you just need to change something for it to include the audio...  ::)
cool.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 25 May 2010, 15:36:24
I love cats, but I don't have any. :-[

Dad doesn't want one, and my Mom lives in an apartment.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 25 May 2010, 16:28:34
Easy, just ask for a hamster, then bring back a baby citten* then it grows up and they`ll learn how cute they are :P

*IDK? cat? baby cat?
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Post by: John.d.h on 25 May 2010, 19:24:39
Easy, just ask for a hamster, then bring back a baby citten* then it grows up and they`ll learn how cute they are :P

*IDK? cat? baby cat?
You were close.  It's "kitten".
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 25 May 2010, 21:05:48
thanks ;)

:o soon im at the top 10 list of whos been online the most!
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 25 May 2010, 22:25:27
thanks ;)

:o soon im at the top 10 list of whos been online the most!
Wait theres a list? Who's on it am I? Can I see

Also the thing about the kitten didn't make any sence
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 25 May 2010, 23:33:16
Yay, achievement for the spambot(s)...  ::)
Wait theres a list? Who's on it am I? Can I see
https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?action=stats
Here for people that check it for that type of stats...
I check it usually for the other stats...  ::)
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 25 May 2010, 23:52:54
Yay, achievement for the spambot(s)...  ::)
Wait theres a list? Who's on it am I? Can I see
https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?action=stats
Here for people that check it for that type of stats...
I check it usually for the other stats...  ::)

it doesn't really say anything about spambots

and awwww im not on it :( haha its ok I never knew they had some sort of list
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 26 May 2010, 00:32:10
I'm just talking about gabbe...  ::)
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Post by: Omega on 26 May 2010, 02:03:17
On a related topic of google's pacman, this was quite interesting:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13772_3-20005958-52.html

Did you know people spent a total of 4,819,352 man hours and $120,483,800 in lost productivity playing pacman? Amazingly, some (jackassed) businesses temporarily blocked google's homepage to try and stop it (though I bet the people who were supposed to be blacklisting google ended up playing their share of pacman first!).

Yay, achievement for the spambot(s)...  ::)
Wait theres a list? Who's on it am I? Can I see
https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?action=stats
Here for people that check it for that type of stats...
I check it usually for the other stats...  ::)
*Looks up top ten posters* Hmm, perhaps it is time for the spambot reward to be relocated? :O Nah, I'm kidding, too much red tape, sorry arch.
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Post by: ultifd on 26 May 2010, 03:16:40
On a related topic of google's pacman, this was quite interesting:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13772_3-20005958-52.html
Did you know people spent a total of 4,819,352 man hours and $120,483,800 in lost productivity playing pacman? Amazingly, some (jackassed) businesses temporarily blocked google's homepage to try and stop it (though I bet the people who were supposed to be blacklisting google ended up playing their share of pacman first!).
Well...the is the Google Effect. Probably.  ::)
Cool...I mean wow...  :|  :P
It's not too bad, but I would understand why it would be tried to uh...be blocked?
[bad wording...  ::)]

Quote
*Looks up top ten posters* Hmm, perhaps it is time for the spambot reward to be relocated? :O Nah, I'm kidding, too much red tape, sorry arch.
Well, just wait for the future, cause uh...we still seriously get more and more bots every week  ::)
and then the half bots...  ::)
I'm somewhat serious.  :|
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Post by: -Archmage- on 26 May 2010, 04:30:49
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*Looks up top ten posters* Hmm, perhaps it is time for the spambot reward to be relocated? Laughing Nah, I'm kidding, too much red tape, sorry arch.

*Looks down at pathetic little Omega* Hah! 8)
Just kidding around, dude. :P

Sorry I don't have any extra red tape for you.



HEY!!! John is ahead on the most time online, I worked hard to get ahead of him, time to work hard again! :scientist: :swordman:
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 26 May 2010, 04:46:58
Eh, Gabbe is going to beat most of everybody...maybe not on times but atleast on posts...if it is the same rate as now...  ::) Everybody besides Omega and Arch...  ::)
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Google is fast...
Chrome stable versions already for linux and mac!  ::)
http://www.google.com/chrome?platform=mac&hl=en
http://www.google.com/chrome?platform=linux&hl=en
http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.com/2010/05/stable-channel-update.html
I don't have either, but still cool...
Even though I mainly 98% of the time use Firefox...Chrome would basically be my second choice.  ::)
After all, it is basically the best in speed...  :|
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 26 May 2010, 05:27:26
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Google is fast...
Chrome stable versions already for linux and mac!  Roll Eyes
http://www.google.com/chrome?platform=mac&hl=en
http://www.google.com/chrome?platform=linux&hl=en
http://googlechromereleases.blogspot.com/2010/05/stable-channel-update.html
I don't have either, but still cool...
Even though I mainly 98% of the time use Firefox...Chrome would basically be my second choice.  Roll Eyes
After all, it is basically the best in speed...  No Opinion

 :o

Firefox is still my favorite. :look:
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 26 May 2010, 09:59:44
On a related topic of google's pacman, this was quite interesting:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13772_3-20005958-52.html

Did you know people spent a total of 4,819,352 man hours and $120,483,800 in lost productivity playing pacman? Amazingly, some (jackassed) businesses temporarily blocked google's homepage to try and stop it (though I bet the people who were supposed to be blacklisting google ended up playing their share of pacman first!).

wow people would actually waste work time to play pacman haha i see why they would try to block it. Omega, where did you get those numbers from and how did you find out about that
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 27 May 2010, 16:29:22
My source is that link that you just quoted :O.

Chrome isn't bad, and does have extensions now, but Firefox is my favorite not because of speed, but by useful extensions, not to mention my uber cool persona + titlebar hider which looks both epic and functional.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 27 May 2010, 21:53:30
My source is that link that you just quoted :O.

wow i can't believe i didn't see that. haha im so stupid
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 27 May 2010, 21:58:40
I better get started with spamming or i will loose my title...1post...2posts....3post....4posts...5posts....6posts...7posts...8posts...

hehe just joking folks, anyways, yes, at my rate i will evetually reach arch and omega, but ultifid, your rate?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 27 May 2010, 22:27:34
I don't care about my rate like you...  ::)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 27 May 2010, 22:47:55
I better get started with spamming or i will loose my title...1post...2posts....3post....4posts...5posts....6posts...7posts...8posts...

hehe just joking folks, anyways, yes, at my rate i will evetually reach arch and omega, but ultifid, your rate?

hehe im catching up to you. Lol NOT. someday I will. (look in the past like week i got about 30 posts ; that good sence when i started it took a week for about 10 posts :))
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 27 May 2010, 23:24:00
My posting rate is 9.0 a day, Gabbe, yours is only 7.5.

I will delete any SPAM you post. >:( Muhuhahahahaa!
Just kiddin dude. :P Still, no SPAMing
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 27 May 2010, 23:52:28
Well mines is a bit over 10, but it does not really matter to me...  ::)
doodle 4 google...kinda cool I guess  :|
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 27 May 2010, 23:54:49
I still have a huge lead. :cheesy: :scientist:
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 27 May 2010, 23:56:07
Good for you.  :thumbup:  :)  ::)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 27 May 2010, 23:59:44
Yep! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

So, let's change the topic, shall we? Ideas? :|
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 28 May 2010, 00:04:08
Doodle 4 Google?
 :|
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 28 May 2010, 00:06:49
AS you probably know, I'm not such a big fan of google. :P
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 28 May 2010, 00:08:11
Oh...yeah...well...  ::)
xkcd?  :|
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/infrastructures.png)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 28 May 2010, 00:35:24
 :O


I'm gonna find one: ;D

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/velociraptors.jpg)

Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 28 May 2010, 00:55:47
Ever notice how it's not the same without the awesome mouseover text?

If I remember correctly, the one for arch's comic is: You're probably thinking, 'has it been a decade?'  It's been over thirteen years, buddy.

The one for ultfd's is: The heartfelt tune it plays is CC licensed, and you can get it from my seed on JoinDiaspora.com whenever that project gets going.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 28 May 2010, 05:01:58
Yeah, that's true.  ::)  :O
---
I keep getting an IO Error when uploading an (almost) 50 MB file...
Well, it's version 1.4.1 that needs to be uploaded if you have it.
Yeah...so I'll try again later.
To FileFront and MediaFire...  :|
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 28 May 2010, 09:42:43
Thanks, but yer going a little offtopic, aren't you....... :|
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 28 May 2010, 10:36:12
Thanks, but yer going a little offtopic, aren't you....... :|
this IS the off topic- main
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 28 May 2010, 11:52:11
He's talking about a mod I made a long time ago, that's not off-topic, so it's off-topic here. ;D
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: @kukac@ on 28 May 2010, 14:33:15
There isn't really "offtopic" for offtopic. Anything can go. :P 8)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 28 May 2010, 15:09:48
There isn't really "offtopic" for offtopic. Anything can go. :P 8)

haha yeah offtopic offtopic lol
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 28 May 2010, 15:14:49
*Brings back the REAL offtopic (though anything goes)*

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/trolling.png) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0)
Mouse Over: "And I was really impressed with how they managed to shock the Goatse guy."

For more fun, click the picture (it's a link). That's how it actually was on the xkcd page! :O
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 28 May 2010, 15:44:35
Time to school Kukac, and Omega in logic! :scientist:

The off-topic board is for things that aren't Glest-related. Ultifd's post clearly was Glest-related. Therefore Ultifd's post is off-board.
This specific topic was created before I registered here, by Omega, this post was originally the only place you could post things un-Glest-related(unless you posted a topic with OT in the front of name). (Even though this topic has been moved to the recently added off-topic board, it's still what it was before.) To post something Glest-related would not be un-Glest-related. ::)



Quote
*Brings back the REAL offtopic (though anything goes)*

Ok, I admit defeat, the owner of the topic makes the rules for the topic. Besides you're an admin I don't want to mess with you. :O

Interesting comic, I'm going to find a funny youtube video I saw a while back........ ;D
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 28 May 2010, 15:57:36
Funny youtube video? College humour's "We didn't start the flame war"?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 28 May 2010, 16:39:10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlxZKUWXxiU
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: @kukac@ on 28 May 2010, 17:49:06
I just read recently what I've written when I was young. Yes, I wasn't a very intelligent lifeform, when I was 13 years old :)

https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=2609.0 :thumbdown:
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Post by: Gabbe on 28 May 2010, 17:55:58
you certainly weren`t haha  :O :O
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Post by: -Archmage- on 28 May 2010, 18:28:21
Nice vid gabbe! :O :O :O

Here's a very educational video from Nigahiga:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fhb89V43KWc
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Post by: -Archmage- on 28 May 2010, 18:32:35
Here's another funny one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Phbe8mEDMe4
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Post by: Omega on 28 May 2010, 18:49:41
I just read recently what I've written when I was young. Yes, I wasn't a very intelligent lifeform, when I was 13 years old :)

https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=2609.0 :thumbdown:
Wow, that was... akward, We all have stuff like that. Me especially... (but don't go looking).

13 you say? But that was 2007, so wouldn't it be 15 or so? :O

@GAbbe, just watched your video now. Very funny. Doesn't everyone love Collegehumour?
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 28 May 2010, 21:47:11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sE3PQ0gIiJE

lol   :O
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Post by: Gabbe on 28 May 2010, 22:13:21
xx that guy was CRAZY and it seemed he was..kinda..uhm..you know..when someone take drugs they reveal theri true personality..like...

ALl vids were funny! and all love college humour!
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 28 May 2010, 22:20:01
xx that guy was CRAZY and it seemed he was..kinda..uhm..you know..when someone take drugs they reveal theri true personality..like...

ALl vids were funny! and all love college humour!

he seemed gay to me or it was just an act i can't really tell lol i think he really is
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Post by: Gabbe on 28 May 2010, 22:21:40
many on youtube is..and Bieber too...
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Post by: ultifd on 28 May 2010, 22:32:23
Well, whatever, this is the MAIN. If I was really going OT, you can't really compare that to what others have...posted about.  ::)
@Omega
 :O
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Post by: Gabbe on 28 May 2010, 22:33:56
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yoRWXrZVzA

what will arch say?
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 28 May 2010, 22:43:20
many on youtube is..and Bieber too...

lol i hate him so much and his music isn't really that good. But beiber isn't gay just people say that to people they hate. The people who only like him is because of his "looks" not really the music

ha i lost power for a couple a minutes thanks you saver of firefox restore... i didn't have to type this all over again
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Post by: -Archmage- on 29 May 2010, 00:34:30
Of course he doesn't mention how everyone gets forced to pay a Healthcare tax. It's just more disgusting socialism.
Besides it just makes more poor people. The healthcare bill that Obama passed is simply a terrible solution!



God, that video of the gay guy is scarily hilarious. He goes hee, hee, hee, like every five seconds!
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Post by: ultifd on 29 May 2010, 04:56:15
Alright, how about that oil spill...  :(
I'll say more after I get over after being kinda  >:( and  :( ...
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Post by: -Archmage- on 29 May 2010, 05:23:50
Last I knew they were having tons of trouble plugging it up. :look:
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Post by: John.d.h on 29 May 2010, 05:32:47
Yet another reason we need energy alternatives.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 29 May 2010, 05:43:46
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Yet another reason we need energy alternatives.

Are you one of those dummy environmentalists? (no offense, but they blew up 1 or was it 2 of our shuttles, and they are responsible for the crappy infrastructure of the buildings destroyed during 9/11)

Of course we don't need alternatives, we're having trouble plugging it up because it's forcing it's way out! We need to get the oil out of that place, and relieve the pressure.
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 29 May 2010, 12:09:13
Alright, how about that oil spill...  :(
I'll say more after I get over after being kinda  >:( and  :( ...

why are you angry and sad?

Yet another reason we need energy alternatives.

we do need alternative and something to plug it up but its getting even more difficult and its already reached land and thats even worse. It can also go through the gulf stream and to New England.

This is even worser than Exon (did i spell that right) thats where this ship was carrying oil in the Alaska or Atlantic area (i can't remember) anyways it hit something and the whole thing spilled i think it was in the 1970's
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Post by: Gabbe on 29 May 2010, 16:31:33
mhm i think almost all of europe has healthcare...
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Post by: ultifd on 29 May 2010, 17:14:37
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This is even worser than Exon (did i spell that right) thats where this ship was carrying oil in the Alaska or Atlantic area (i can't remember) anyways it hit something and the whole thing spilled i think it was in the 1970's
Actually, it was 1989...  ::) A year for a lot of stuff...  ::)
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why are you angry and sad?
Why can't I be?  ::) There are many reasons to be like that... Think...  ::)

Anyways, this has become the biggest spill...ever.  :(
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Post by: Gabbe on 29 May 2010, 22:06:43
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pdw27j_usP0

hope these win MGP...
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Post by: John.d.h on 30 May 2010, 03:13:56
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Yet another reason we need energy alternatives.
Are you one of those dummy environmentalists?
Okay, so we just had quite possibly the biggest man-made environmental disaster in the history of the world, and the fact that I'd rather it didn't happen again is somehow not okay?  Do you ever take your head out of your own ass long enough to actually think before you type, or do you just repeat whatever bigoted garbage you last heard from Bill O'Reilly and/or Rush Limbaugh?
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Post by: Omega on 30 May 2010, 04:22:00
Saskatchewan, Canada has a very good health care system that the states should base theirs upon. It can be very hard to describe our health system, but these wikipedia articles should give you the drift.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_Canada
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Canadian_and_American_health_care_systems

Quote from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_in_Canada#Public_opinion
A 2009 Harris/Decima poll found 82% of Canadians preferred their healthcare system to the one in the United States, more than ten times as many as the 8% stating a preference for a US-style health care system for Canada while a Strategic Counsel survey in 2008 found 91% of Canadians preferring their healthcare system to that of the U.S.



In my province of Saskatchewan, I've noticed that we tend to prefer crown ownership over privatization. How so? Our biggest phone company is Sasktel, our biggest power company is SaskPower, our biggest energy company is SaskEnergy, our biggest insurance provider is SGI (Saskatchewan general insurance). They are also the best companies and some of the strongest in the province, with the exception of the privatized Potash Corp, a multi-billion dollar corporation which mines and sells our potash, a substance used to create many things, primarily fertilizer, of which we have the richest in the world.



In response to environmentalism topic going on, can someone explain what exactly happened? I know that an oil rig somehow exploded, but what caused this? It seems to me the best way to save the environment is not to blow up oil rigs in the first place, no?
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Post by: John.d.h on 30 May 2010, 19:07:24
In response to environmentalism topic going on, can someone explain what exactly happened? I know that an oil rig somehow exploded, but what caused this? It seems to me the best way to save the environment is not to blow up oil rigs in the first place, no?
I saw an interview with one of the survivors from the rig, and I think they hit a methane deposit or something.  If we had better energy sources, we wouldn't have to worry about oil spills/explosions at all. :P

Anyway, I think this board is getting a little too political lately, so I think I'm going to withdraw from the fighting for a bit.
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Post by: zombiepirate on 30 May 2010, 19:50:05
In response to environmentalism topic going on, can someone explain what exactly happened? I know that an oil rig somehow exploded, but what caused this? It seems to me the best way to save the environment is not to blow up oil rigs in the first place, no?
I saw an interview with one of the survivors from the rig, and I think they hit a methane deposit or something.  If we had better energy sources, we wouldn't have to worry about oil spills/explosions at all. :P

Yes, a large methane bubble shot up through the pipe destroying most if not all the valves and exploded when it hit the top. There was an article on BBC about it a while back but I don't want to go looking for it right now. As far as oil spills/explosions it's not really that better energy sources (which I still agree we need) will prevent it. New energy sources come with their own risks too. The problem was that safety regulations, that are mandatory for European drilling but not American drilling, were not present. For a few extra bucks spent on safety this whole disaster could have been stopped at day two.
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Post by: Gabbe on 31 May 2010, 14:25:15
Anyone know were i can find some voice actors for a video game?
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Post by: Omega on 31 May 2010, 16:57:32
For safety concerns, please buy all your oil from the Canadian oilsands. Thank you.
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Post by: Gabbe on 31 May 2010, 17:02:42
lmao were did that come from? Norwegian oil FTW!
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Post by: ultifd on 31 May 2010, 20:03:33
Well...um, ok.
Anyways, I just got (well yesterday) Super Mario Galaxy 2! Sweeet!  :O
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4c_wI6kQyE
Great...huh? not really.
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Post by: Gabbe on 31 May 2010, 21:11:50
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- Military attacks on civilian activists are completely unacceptable. We are shocked by the news that Israeli naval forces have attacked ships with humanitarian aid to Gaza, "Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg in a comment to a table of aid convoy to Gaza.

- An independent international investigation of what actually happened to take place as quickly as possible. Foreign Minister will take this up today with UN Secretary General, "said Stoltenberg.

Norway has repeatedly called for to lift the blockade.

There are Norwegian citizens on board the convoy. Norwegian authorities are monitoring the situation and is there to endeavor to assist the Norwegian citizens.

-----wtf is so fucked up with Israel nowadays?
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 31 May 2010, 23:03:36
Great...huh? not really.

wow he's so unhealthy
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Post by: Omega on 1 June 2010, 03:53:14
Wow... That is very gross and odd... While we're talking about smoking, what's your guy's stances on it? Personally, I am completely and irrovocably AGAINST smoking and would love to see it ILLEGAL. I don't care what the economic and tax hazards of such an action would be, I think smoking is very bad and extremely dangerous/stupid.



Hmm, I bought FF XIII the other day for the 360... It's okay so far, but heres a few things I'm loathing about it:
-No level system that every FF game to date has had before. Meaning no experience either!
-Only two pieces of equipment choosable, a weapon and an accessory. This has been far too common in recent games.
-HP is completely restored for every battle. While this is probably necessary for the new (abet, crappy) battle system, it seems unfamiliar.
-No overworld or real choices on where to go. Everything is extemely linear.
-Nearly no optional events, as everything follows that linear storyline.

I'm only in the second chapter, so I can't say all that much yet, but these points are reflected by the reviews that I've read. I can't help but really miss the FF4-9 games. I don't know why square enix is going down its current path. Can't the see that their most popular and best liked games were the FF4-9 ones? Don't they realize that gamers simply aren't liking their new approaches and techniques? Polls that I've seen show people prefer the FF games as their medieval weaponed fantasy counterparts over futuristic weapons.

Are random battles truly dead? Is this the end of FF as we know it?! :'(
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Post by: ultifd on 1 June 2010, 04:47:39
Smoking: Yeah, it is very bad...and I would love to see it illegal too, but then like you said there would be a lot of problems after making it illegal, and...I'm pretty sure it is hard to overcome the addictiveness of smoking...I wouldn't know, but I do know a lot of people that do.  :( It isn't impossible, but it's hard.
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FF: Nice!  :O
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Post by: John.d.h on 1 June 2010, 04:57:48
I'd like to see tobacco obliterated from existence.  I'd also like to see marijuana legalized.  I don't smoke it, but I think people should be free to do so, with the same restrictions as alcohol (i.e. set an age limit, don't let people driver under its influence, etc.).  With some hefty taxes, it would turn from a liability into an asset.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 1 June 2010, 14:47:25
About the Israel attack. The news of course makes them look as bad as possible.

Here's what happened:

The Israelis dropped commandos on these boats using helicopters, the commandos were armed with a paintball gun and a pistol each. The objective was to peacefully take over the ship and bring it into port to inspect the cargo, if the cargo was allowed, they would ship it to Gaza. But the commandos were attacked, some of the commandos were robbed of their pistols, and shot, others were thrown from higher decks to lower decks. One of two of the commandos jumped into the water to get away, and some of them responded to lethal force with lethal force(10 people killed). As it turns out, some weapons were being smuggled.

Unlike the mainstream media, I'm not going to judge it for you, I'm going to let you judge it for yourself.



Smoking......I think we can all agree on that topic........
Except of course there are people like my Mom and her boyfriend that smoke on occasion for some ritual.
I'm for freedom so I could say let people do it if they wish, but now with our sucky healthcare system in place(thanks to the dunce that claims to be president), I don't want to be paying for these suckers to kill themselves, so I say yah, let's make it illegal.
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Post by: Gabbe on 1 June 2010, 14:57:24
thanks arch, but that was not from media, that was from our prime minister in person. It was intel brought to him and then he decided to publish it.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 1 June 2010, 15:17:45
Your prime minister is a political figure, Obama is a political figure, Obama lies all the time................... :|
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Post by: Gabbe on 1 June 2010, 16:05:35
we have a different political system than you americans..still democratic i think...
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Post by: Omega on 1 June 2010, 16:36:40
Well, I have to agree a bit there. Norway's government beats USAs. So does Canadas. And UKs. And many other western europe governments. And australia...  Need I go on?
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Post by: Gabbe on 1 June 2010, 16:37:48
nah you don`t everyone except americans will understand  ;D joking... :O :O :D

BTW, does you in US/Canada consider yorself european?
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 1 June 2010, 22:12:32
(my rambling) Smoking: I really don't care much of wether its illegal or not. People will still smoke it (even more) if it was illegal. Just like proabation they made alocohol illegal and that made things worse. There was riots, smuggling, fighting ect. just to get it, so it was better to keep it legal. Personalty my mom smoke over 2 packs day and where-ever and when-ever she wants. I hate it because the smoke gets everywhere and its impossible to get it out the way she smoke. So I have to go to school smelling of smoke and then everyone make fun of me. I hate my school so much anyways this one kid named jake (I HATE HIM SOOOO MUCH) takes it over-dramatic and bothers me so much he also makes fun of me being goth. Mostly everything about me he make fun of for me smelling of smoke which itsn't that bad he fake coughs (really bad) and puts his shirt to his nose and such and whenever i see him in the halls he just coughs and says eww . Anyways thiis makes me really depressed going to school but I really want my mom to stop so my life could improve. But its impossible for her to stop she won't even try but its really really hard but not impossible you must be commited to stop smoking. If it was illegal maybe someone like my mom wouldn't have access to smokes and she'll stop even though making illegal will make the world worse
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Post by: Gabbe on 1 June 2010, 22:16:24
are you like what they call EMO or Emotional? just kick him in his precious family jewels and tell the teachers it was a accident...
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Post by: ultifd on 1 June 2010, 22:34:41
Re: Smoking
Making it illegal would be like the 18th amendment...and in the end would be like that...  ::)
It would be hard...
Promoting non-smoking would be the best, and if you don't start in the first place, then that is already very good...
the bad thing is if you get a lot of second-hand smoke...  :(
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Re: US Presidents.
Well, a lot of them...actually almost every single one of them is not...well they all weren't really good presidents...Obama is the same thing...he's not the worst though, and if our current president was one of the candidates in 08' then that would be even worse IMO.

One thing is, they get blamed and also congratulated for everything...  ::)
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Heh, gabbe, your sig is kinda bad...(the length)...oh well...  ::)
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Post by: Gabbe on 1 June 2010, 22:41:48
ultifd i could put vids tere if that clears your concerns...
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Post by: ultifd on 1 June 2010, 22:45:01
I don't know what you are talking about, this isn't a chat Gabbe...
oh well, more posts for you  :thumbup:
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 1 June 2010, 22:49:34
Re: Smoking
Making it illegal would be like the 18th amendment...and in the end would be like that...  ::)
It would be hard...
Promoting non-smoking would be the best, and if you don't start in the first place, then that is already very good...
the bad thing is if you get a lot of second-hand smoke...  :(
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Heh, gabbe, your sig is kinda bad...(the length)...oh well...  ::)
Yah thats what I was trying to say I forgot it was the 18th Amendment. Anyways (lets say we made it illegal)What about all the people that smoked before then. Should them and only them be allowed to smoke so the people who is hooked won't be misable and have a hard time
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also I kinda agree its a bit lengthy

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are you like what they call EMO or Emotional? just kick him in his precious family jewels and tell the teachers it was a accident...

More goth but with my emotions how I get so sad alot I'm kinda "emo" but i don't like saying i am much because they have a bad repitions but most of what people think about them or what they do is so wrong
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Post by: John.d.h on 1 June 2010, 22:50:30
Heh, gabbe, your sig is kinda bad...(the length)...oh well...  ::)
I agree.  It's pretty obnoxious.  You could put everything on like two lines and it would fit just fine. ::)
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Post by: ultifd on 1 June 2010, 22:54:04
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Yah thats what I was trying to say I forgot it was the 18th Amendment. Anyways (lets say we made it illegal)What about all the people that smoked before then. Should them and only them be allowed to smoke so the people who is hooked won't be misable and have a hard time
If the world did, then for those people, a lot, it would be the same thing, and since it is kinda hard to stop, but not impossible to, it would...be the same thing for them...that's why making it illegal would be worse probably, and in the end there would be no point...  ::)
And other points too...  ::)
Re: Gabbe's Signature
OK, OK, I think gabbe gets the message...we don't want to offend gabbe right?  ::)
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 1 June 2010, 22:55:36
just wanted to say OZZFEST!!! I can't wait I'm so excited because its actually in my state and there's more of a chance of letting me go. Even though alot of older people are there. I been really wanting to go for years but i was never old enough. I'm 14 I should be able to go except for the fact theres lot of people drugs and huge crowds but if if wasn't for that I would have been able to go much younger. Hmm i wonder if i can go with my 22 year old sister

Anyways for people who don't know about OZZFEST its where a bunch of rock/metal people perform (i can't really explain it) and the main atraction is ozzy osbourne hes is SO AWESOME.
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yes random much from what we were just talking about but yea... off-topic board so it can be random
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Post by: -Archmage- on 2 June 2010, 06:10:14
"Kick him in his precious family jewels..."
Good one Gabbe!



Stephanie, just ignore him, and try making fun of your Mom, that's what I did to avoid trouble, and it works,......... like half the time. :P
Although Connor Bollig just pissed me off so much, I got so mad I screamed at him on the bus, it was pretty embarrassing. :bomb:

I would just love to go back to school for one day and school everybody. ;D



Bye-bye Gabbe's sig....... :thumbdown:
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Post by: ElimiNator on 2 June 2010, 06:34:38
Bye-bye Gabbe's sig....... :thumbdown:
Yah, it quite big. You should down size Gab...
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Post by: -Archmage- on 2 June 2010, 06:41:54
Since we're talking about sigs......

Elim, I recommend making the MegaGlest logo part of the link. :thumbup:
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Post by: ultifd on 2 June 2010, 06:56:25
Well, since we are (still?) talking about sigs... ::)
Sometimes, you don't have to "end" codes, (it still "works" ) (you just need (at least) the "beginning" part of it...)
and this can save space.
Well, this is only really useful for me, and probably other people...later.  ::)
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Too bad, that sinkhole.  :(
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Post by: Gabbe on 2 June 2010, 13:17:17
i resize sign!
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Post by: ultifd on 2 June 2010, 22:33:55
You mean "resize" you Sig. right...?  ::)
Cool. Thanks.  :)
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Post by: ElimiNator on 2 June 2010, 23:00:39
Since we're talking about sigs......

Elim, I recommend making the MegaGlest logo part of the link. :thumbup:
Good idea! (Done).
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 2 June 2010, 23:18:03
just wanted to say OZZFEST!!! I can't wait I'm so excited because its actually in my state and there's more of a chance of letting me go. Even though alot of older people are there. I been really wanting to go for years but i was never old enough. I'm 14 I should be able to go except for the fact theres lot of people drugs and huge crowds but if if wasn't for that I would have been able to go much younger. Hmm i wonder if i can go with my 22 year old sister

Anyways for people who don't know about OZZFEST its where a bunch of rock/metal people perform (i can't really explain it) and the main atraction is ozzy osbourne hes is SO AWESOME.
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yes random much from what we were just talking about but yea... off-topic board so it can be random
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Post by: ultifd on 3 June 2010, 07:18:43
Cool.  :thumbup:
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Well, I always kinda liked the minimalistic "clean" style...but soon you can have backgrounds...I mean on Google.  ::)
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/06/freeze-frame.html
 :)
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Post by: Omega on 3 June 2010, 16:27:34
just wanted to say OZZFEST!!! I can't wait I'm so excited because its actually in my state and there's more of a chance of letting me go. Even though alot of older people are there. I been really wanting to go for years but i was never old enough. I'm 14 I should be able to go except for the fact theres lot of people drugs and huge crowds but if if wasn't for that I would have been able to go much younger. Hmm i wonder if i can go with my 22 year old sister

Anyways for people who don't know about OZZFEST its where a bunch of rock/metal people perform (i can't really explain it) and the main atraction is ozzy osbourne hes is SO AWESOME.
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yes random much from what we were just talking about but yea... off-topic board so it can be random
Did you just quote yourself? (Again) :O



That's pretty sweet Ultifd! Though I agree, I prefer the minimalist view. Loads faster too.
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 3 June 2010, 19:11:20
just wanted to say OZZFEST!!! I can't wait I'm so excited because its actually in my state and there's more of a chance of letting me go. Even though alot of older people are there. I been really wanting to go for years but i was never old enough. I'm 14 I should be able to go except for the fact theres lot of people drugs and huge crowds but if if wasn't for that I would have been able to go much younger. Hmm i wonder if i can go with my 22 year old sister

Anyways for people who don't know about OZZFEST its where a bunch of rock/metal people perform (i can't really explain it) and the main atraction is ozzy osbourne hes is SO AWESOME.
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yes random much from what we were just talking about but yea... off-topic board so it can be random
Did you just quote yourself? (Again) :O

haha yea... so? people ignored what i said watever lol are you really going to keep track every time i quote myself
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Post by: Omega on 3 June 2010, 20:33:08
We don't ignore, we simply didn't comment. I didn't say anything because I'm not a fan of metal.
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Post by: Gabbe on 3 June 2010, 20:33:49
i resize sign!
ultifd i could put vids tere if that clears your concerns...
nah you don`t everyone except americans will understand  ;D joking... :O :O :D

BTW, does you in US/Canada consider yorself european?
we have a different political system than you americans..still democratic i think...
thanks arch, but that was not from media, that was from our prime minister in person. It was intel brought to him and then he decided to publish it.

....i didn`t quote anything...
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Post by: John.d.h on 3 June 2010, 22:14:04
I saw the thing about Ozzfest, but they don't seem to be making any stops anywhere near me.  I've never been to Ozzfest, but I went to Sounds of the Underground once... which was, ironically, an outdoor concert. ;D
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Post by: ultifd on 3 June 2010, 22:35:10
Yeah, I also ignore.
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That's pretty sweet Ultifd! Though I agree, I prefer the minimalist view. Loads faster too.
Yeah, I know right...  ::)
Hmm...probably a few more days, then it we can try.  :thumbup:
EDIT: Cool, it's there...for me at least. Probably a few days for others,  :| .
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Post by: Omega on 4 June 2010, 02:56:26
Cool!

Here's my new google homepage:
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Post by: ultifd on 4 June 2010, 07:40:42
Yeah, it is really cool, not like really super, but it's nice...  ::) Awesome, yours too...  :thumbup:
So I tried with the MG wallpaper, looks nice  ::) ....
I'll still probably stick with the minimalistic simple Original background...but still cool and probably not for at least my Glest Gmail account...  ::)
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[img]http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2522/megaglestgoogle.jpg[/img]:thumbup: Could be a little bit better in this case, but I do not really care much...for now at least.  ::)
 
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Post by: Gabbe on 4 June 2010, 11:34:11
firfox and google.com with this...awesome...
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Post by: Gabbe on 4 June 2010, 14:41:02
LMAO! google is in something called "hacker language" like this: Google s3aI2ch is supposed to mean: Google search lmao...

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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 4 June 2010, 15:08:35
This is so cool that megaglest background and its on google what cool opertunities
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Post by: ultifd on 4 June 2010, 22:28:01
Yes, other regions have to wait a bit...  ::)
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Post by: Omega on 6 June 2010, 01:23:49
OMG! Have you guys seen this: http://www.pcworld.com/article/197752/article.html?tk=nl_bex_h_topstories

Some idiot woman used google maps, walked across a street, got hit by car, and now she's trying to sue google. Can't wait till this hits court! It'll be better than the time a woman slipped on a piece of popcorn in a bowling ally and tried to sue the ally for negelecting to place signs warning people of popcorn on the floor! :O

Why do people sure for such stupid things? Is it because they're too ashamed to admit they are complete idiots?
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Post by: ultifd on 6 June 2010, 01:43:41
Well...huh,  ::)
That's why you are supposed to never fully trust a GPS, google maps, yahoo maps, bing maps...etc.  ::)
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Post by: Omega on 6 June 2010, 01:54:48
Well...huh,  ::)
That's why you are supposed to never fully trust a GPS, google maps, yahoo maps, bing maps...etc.  ::)
Please tell me that was sarcasm..... :o
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Post by: John.d.h on 6 June 2010, 01:59:30
OMG! Have you guys seen this: http://www.pcworld.com/article/197752/article.html?tk=nl_bex_h_topstories

Some idiot woman used google maps, walked across a street, got hit by car, and now she's trying to sue google. Can't wait till this hits court! It'll be better than the time a woman slipped on a piece of popcorn in a bowling ally and tried to sue the ally for negelecting to place signs warning people of popcorn on the floor! :O

Why do people sure for such stupid things? Is it because they're too ashamed to admit they are complete idiots?
I hate to keep bashing on my own nation like this, but a lot of Americans have this sense of entitlement, like if something bad happens to them, then it's their fundamental right to be compensated for it, because nothing they ever do is their own fault.

There's an ABC News special report called "The Blame Game: Are We a Country of Victims?"  If you get a chance to check it out, I recommend it.  It's all about this kind of thing.  The funny thing is that I saw it just a couple days after getting hit by a car.  Did I sue?  Hell no.  I knew I should have paid more attention and I'm responsible for my own safety.
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Post by: Omega on 6 June 2010, 02:46:26
Well said john! Pretty much every country has its idiots.

I completely agree though, people need to take more responsibility for their actions. You didn't hit that tree because the guy beside you distracted you.
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Post by: ElimiNator on 6 June 2010, 03:56:31
Yah, totally ridicules, people suing for the dumbest reasons...
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Post by: ultifd on 6 June 2010, 08:05:11
Yah, totally ridicules, people suing for the dumbest reasons...
Yeah, also like that woman who tried to sue an airline service after leaving her alone...while she was asleep on the airplane, after they landed...or something like that.  ::)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1282125/Woman-sues-airline-leaving-asleep-seat.html
Well said john! Pretty much every country has its idiots.
Yeah...a lot.  ::)
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Post by: Gabbe on 6 June 2010, 09:41:46
I don`t know...what is the denmark type of IDiots?
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 6 June 2010, 12:53:51
Well...huh,  ::)
That's why you are supposed to never fully trust a GPS, google maps, yahoo maps, bing maps...etc.  ::)

well I don't know if your being sarcastic or not but for real you can't fully trust anything electronic because they can make mistakes too 
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Post by: ultifd on 6 June 2010, 16:54:42
I was being sarcastic...
also bad wording, but yeah...  ::)
I'm talking like some idiots who actually do...fully or not...  ::)
...
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Post by: Gabbe on 6 June 2010, 17:35:23
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you can't fully trust anything electronic because they can make mistakes too

I would rather trust a fully programmed robot than a human  :|
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Post by: ultifd on 6 June 2010, 17:47:55
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you can't fully trust anything electronic because they can make mistakes too
I would rather trust a fully programmed robot than a human  :|
I would rather trust neither of those two...  ::)
If I could.
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Post by: Gabbe on 6 June 2010, 18:14:06
I would trust me, but thats usually not enough...
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 7 June 2010, 09:57:57
I would trust me, but thats usually not enough...

I would only trust me fully because you can never fully trust anyone or thing
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Post by: Gabbe on 7 June 2010, 13:25:23
I would trust me, but thats usually not enough...

I would only trust me fully because you can never fully trust anyone or thing

sometimes we do...people depend on their jobs...and they trust the people giving them jobs...coz without...well...and people living it cities trust the farmers to make food...fully...because noone in a city can live without being sustained by farmers...
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Post by: Gabbe on 7 June 2010, 22:27:51
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[img]http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/hprofile-ak-snc4/hs259.snc3/23231_749574609_932_n.jpg[/img]
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Post by: ultifd on 7 June 2010, 22:33:25
Well, typically I would trust "trust" myself...but it some cases even that can't be...done.  ::)
Depends.
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Post by: Gabbe on 7 June 2010, 22:38:34
when can it not be done?
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Post by: ultifd on 7 June 2010, 22:44:31
when can it not be done?
Let's see, if you have a problem, and if you have an answer, and then sometimes you can trust that it is right...
well, something like that.
Like you can't make the right decision on something...or...well, etc.
 ::)
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Post by: Gabbe on 7 June 2010, 22:47:50
when can you not trust yourself?

If you have a probably answer, you trust yourself that it is correct.
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 8 June 2010, 00:37:20
I would trust me, but thats usually not enough...

I would only trust me fully because you can never fully trust anyone or thing

sometimes we do...people depend on their jobs...and they trust the people giving them jobs...coz without...well...and people living it cities trust the farmers to make food...fully...because noone in a city can live without being sustained by farmers...

thats more like expecting them to farm then trusting them to do their job to farm. Maybe one day the farmers will go on strike and not farm is that very trustful. :P
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Post by: ElimiNator on 8 June 2010, 03:21:38
They can't, if they do then they will have no money. They farm for a living.
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Post by: Gabbe on 8 June 2010, 03:54:30
farmers can farm lone for themselves, and then people living in cities will have nowere to get food  ::)  and how can farmers strike when they live on the farm were they far? they have a own company for themselves.
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Post by: ElimiNator on 8 June 2010, 04:17:48
NO, farmers half to pay for gas, seed, and taxes. So that means they need to sell there produce to get money.
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Post by: Gabbe on 8 June 2010, 04:31:32
now, look, if i produced ONE tomato, it have seeds in it, i can then produce about 12 more tomatoes.

Whatcha need gas for?

You have no income, tax were?


This is scary...they are in your closet...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I33J9Nwh1sA
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Post by: Omega on 9 June 2010, 19:23:27
farmers can farm lone for themselves, and then people living in cities will have nowere to get food  ::)  and how can farmers strike when they live on the farm were they far? they have a own company for themselves.
You really don't know any farmers, do you? Mosdt farmers in my area have a second (sometimes a "main" job) other than farming. Farming can pay well, but equipment can run into the hundred thousands+!

Most farmers farm for a bit of extra money, because they like it, or because they enjoy the organic foods, and /or recognize the need to do so.



To discuss quickly, I'm thinking of purging the entire database of every user that is older than 2 weeks (28 days) and has not posted at all (zero posts). I see no problems with that. I'll give a few days to object for some reason then perform it (after a backup, of course :)). This will reduce the database size, making backups easier, give a more accurate count of the current number of forum accounts, and stop the bots from hogging all the server space!
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Post by: ultifd on 9 June 2010, 22:54:05
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To discuss quickly, I'm thinking of purging the entire database of every user that is older than 2 weeks (28 days) and has not posted at all (zero posts). I see no problems with that. I'll give a few days to object for some reason then perform it (after a backup, of course  :)). This will reduce the database size, making backups easier, give a more accurate count of the current number of forum accounts, and stop the bots from hogging all the server space!
Good, more than 3,000...though...  ::) But  :thumbup: Please do...
Hmm...I just checked, and at least (aprox.) 3130 "members" of this forum are bots...are at least "people" who have not posted a single post...0. Maybe some of them are real people, who just created an account...but probably most of them are not...people.
Well, let's see...I'll round it up. 3000 out of 4600 members.
That's around 65%...so...at least above 50...
Maybe sometime, someone can "clean up" this forum...  ::)
Wow...z.  :|
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Post by: Omega on 10 June 2010, 03:20:04
I probably will soon, since I see no reason not to, though you gotta admit, bye bye big numbers of people on the board... Wow, 1600? :(
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Post by: ultifd on 10 June 2010, 04:01:38
I probably will soon, since I see no reason not to, though you gotta admit, bye bye big numbers of people on the board... Wow, 1600? :(
Yeah, basically the only "CON"...  ::)  :(
But it's not too bad, I think,  :| ...
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Post by: Gabbe on 10 June 2010, 04:56:53
Search engines needs to find glest*
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Post by: ultifd on 10 June 2010, 04:58:52
Search engines needs to find glest*
Well, for one reason, or many reasons...I'm not replying to that...or maybe later.
A not so good reason is that that should be on a certain thread in the General Discussion, not in the main OT thread...  ::)
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Well, new default Google background...for 24 hours at least...  ::)
http://techcrunch.com/2010/06/09/google-adds-a-background-image-to-its-homepage-by-default-at-least-for-24-hours/
I wonder what the pic resembles...  ::)
EDIT: NVM, they changed it again...or not.  ::)
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Post by: Gabbe on 10 June 2010, 05:12:48
now it is some pink pigs here..
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Post by: ultifd on 10 June 2010, 05:21:21
now it is some pink pigs here..
I know, before it resembled the BP thing...  :|
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Search engines needs to find glest*
OK, I'll reply...somewhat.
(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/5318/ss140.jpg)
Was using Google...obviously, 24 hour search...  ::)
End...End...discussion? OT discussion?  :|
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Post by: Gabbe on 11 June 2010, 16:30:53
we can talk about anything...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8lW8ndh5BU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjpn3L3bSJQ
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Post by: ultifd on 11 June 2010, 19:10:52
If there is a more appropriate thread, then you should post in that thread...  ::)
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 11 June 2010, 21:40:15
hmmm didn't i already post something here.... about removing the people with less then 1 post. I guess it got deleted too bad :(
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Post by: ultifd on 11 June 2010, 22:29:44
hmmm didn't i already post something here.... about removing the people with less then 1 post. I guess it got deleted too bad :(
Repost it then,  :| ...
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Post by: Gabbe on 12 June 2010, 12:16:41
Archmage is officialy jealous at me because im spending more money on a metal box than he did on his laptop.
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Post by: ElimiNator on 12 June 2010, 15:33:21
Archmage is officialy jealous at me because im spending more money on a metal box than he did on his laptop.
Hm did he spend and what good is a box? Also Hm are you spending?
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Post by: Gabbe on 12 June 2010, 15:35:45
i bought the box to have stuff in it and protect it. it cost me 1000 USD.
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Post by: ultifd on 12 June 2010, 21:58:02
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Mac`s for noobs, thats why it doesn`t improove.
Mac`s for noobs, thats why I don`t bother use them
Mac`s for noobs, thats why it have no applications working on it
Mac`s for noobs, thats why it want support for windows files
Mac`s for noobs, thats why less than 10% use it
Well, that's too bad, we need more developers for that noobie apple...  ::) For glest related stuff.  ::)
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Post by: Gabbe on 14 June 2010, 02:51:36
It is hard to find free devs for a non free OS that less than 10% of the pop uses...
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Post by: ultifd on 15 June 2010, 04:13:19
More or so, yeah...
But, Bruce could help out...
for GAE, silnarm, has gotten a start at least...  :thumbup:
______________________________________________
http://glestradio.page.tl/
Kinda weird, huh? What if we wanted a radio someday...?  ::)
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Post by: Gabbe on 15 June 2010, 12:59:46
origignal but i don`t think so.
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Post by: Gabbe on 15 June 2010, 16:44:19
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4oKXagF3IE
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Post by: -Archmage- on 15 June 2010, 17:22:24
Mr.BEAN time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5qniuZG8Rg
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Post by: Gabbe on 15 June 2010, 17:30:33
LOL! this is so freaking funny!
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Post by: kukac2 on 15 June 2010, 17:47:07
http://www.noob.us/humor/extreme-rice/
:confused:
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Post by: Gabbe on 15 June 2010, 17:55:40
lolz  :thumbup:
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Post by: Omega on 15 June 2010, 18:53:50
http://www.noob.us/humor/extreme-rice/
:confused:
Very funny kukac!
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Post by: Gabbe on 15 June 2010, 18:56:49
What i`ve noticed is that the souther you go, the more screaming is it in the humour, atleast in norse we have only humorous with people doing really weird things, that you might consider not so funny. I don`t know what kind of humour you have in Canada though..
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Post by: Omega on 15 June 2010, 19:57:21
What i`ve noticed is that the souther you go, the more screaming is it in the humour, atleast in norse we have only humorous with people doing really weird things, that you might consider not so funny. I don`t know what kind of humour you have in Canada though..
When NASA first started sending up astronauts, they quickly discovered that ballpoint pens would not work in zero gravity. To combat the problem, NASA scientists spent a decade and $12 billion to develop a pen that writes in zero gravity, upside down, underwater, on almost any surface including glass and at temperatures ranging from below freezing to 300°C.

The Russians used a pencil.

http://www.tallrite.com/LightRelief/worldsbestjokes.htm
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Post by: John.d.h on 15 June 2010, 20:00:32
The problem with that is that the graphite can get in the machinery.  That normally wouldn't be a problem, but when you're in zero gravity and dealing with extremely precise gadgets, it can be a problem.  (I really don't think it was $12 billion either.)
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Post by: ultifd on 16 June 2010, 02:24:14
http://www.noob.us/humor/extreme-rice/
:confused:
:O

Jokes: Some are funny, but some are stupid or retarded... Annoying too.
xkcd is usually funny...sometimes not so appropriate though...  :|
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/swimsuit_issue.png)
 :|
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Post by: Omega on 16 June 2010, 02:41:06
The problem with that is that the graphite can get in the machinery.  That normally wouldn't be a problem, but when you're in zero gravity and dealing with extremely precise gadgets, it can be a problem.  (I really don't think it was $12 billion either.)
Please tell me that was sarcasm! It's a joke after all!

From the same site:
Best joke in the world:
Quote
A couple of New Jersey hunters are out in the woods when one of them falls to the ground. He doesn't seem to be breathing, his eyes are rolled back in his head. The other guy whips out his cell phone and calls the emergency services. He gasps to the operator: “My friend is dead! What can I do?”

The operator, in a calm soothing voice says: “Just take it easy. I can help. First, let's make sure he's dead.” There is a silence, then a shot is heard.

The guy's voice comes back on the line. He says: “OK, now what?“

Second best joke (and my favorite):

Quote
Sherlock Holmes and Dr Watson go on a camping trip.  After a good dinner and a bottle of wine, they retire for the night, and go to sleep.

Some hours later, Holmes wakes up and nudges his faithful friend. “Watson, look up at the sky and tell me what you see.”

“I see millions and millions of stars, Holmes” replies Watson.

“And what do you deduce from that?”

Watson ponders for a minute.  “Well, Astronomically, it tells me that there are millions of galaxies and potentially billions of planets. Astrologically, I observe that Saturn is in Leo. Horologically, I deduce that the time is approximately a quarter past three. Meteorologically, I suspect that we will have a beautiful day tomorrow. Theologically, I can see that God is all powerful, and that we are a small and insignificant part of the universe.

But what does it tell you, Holmes?”

Holmes is silent for a moment. 

“Watson, you idiot!” he says.  “Someone has stolen our tent!”

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Post by: ultifd on 16 June 2010, 02:45:35
The problem with that is that the graphite can get in the machinery.  That normally wouldn't be a problem, but when you're in zero gravity and dealing with extremely precise gadgets, it can be a problem.  (I really don't think it was $12 billion either.)
Please tell me that was sarcasm! It's a joke after all!
Well, people can always relate to...jokes...you know...  ::)

Other "best jokes" quoted by Omega:  :O  :thumbup:
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Post by: ElimiNator on 16 June 2010, 04:05:36
Omega: Love the first one  :O But I don't get the second, why dose it keep saying bullet???
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Post by: ultifd on 16 June 2010, 04:08:31
Omega: Love the first one  :O But I don't get the second, why dose it keep saying bullet???
I think Omega copied it, and so it was like
Maybe not, but other versions of the joke don't have it...  ::)
Still,  :O
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Post by: -Archmage- on 16 June 2010, 04:11:24

EDIT: Crap, Ultifd beat me too it...........
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Post by: Gabbe on 16 June 2010, 10:11:30
Safari somehow uses a lot of my video memory...stupid new broswer..probably apple forcing me to think macs better...

I merely understand english jokes, so my standard is very low :P
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Post by: ElimiNator on 16 June 2010, 16:04:35
UM, HyperCube, your pro pic again...
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Post by: Gabbe on 16 June 2010, 16:16:27
Yes eliminator, what about it?
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Post by: Omega on 16 June 2010, 16:50:14
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Sherlock Holmes and Dr Watson go on a camping trip.  After a good dinner and a bottle of wine, they retire for the night, and go to sleep.

Some hours later, Holmes wakes up and nudges his faithful friend. “Watson, look up at the sky and tell me what you see.”

“I see millions and millions of stars, Holmes” replies Watson.

“And what do you deduce from that?”

Watson ponders for a minute.  “Well, Astronomically, it tells me that there are millions of galaxies and potentially billions of planets. Astrologically, I observe that Saturn is in Leo. Horologically, I deduce that the time is approximately a quarter past three. Meteorologically, I suspect that we will have a beautiful day tomorrow. Theologically, I can see that God is all powerful, and that we are a small and insignificant part of the universe.

But what does it tell you, Holmes?”

Holmes is silent for a moment. 

“Watson, you idiot!” he says.  “Someone has stolen our tent!”
Ok, there. Fixed.

That's what happens when you copy HTML onto plaintext  :P

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/post_office_showdown.png)

Interestingly, when looking at Qt demos, their browser example had a preinstalled bookmark for XKCD.
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Post by: ElimiNator on 16 June 2010, 18:49:23
Yes eliminator, what about it?
You said that you would stop changing your pic every day...
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Post by: Gabbe on 16 June 2010, 18:54:03
It is not every day, still close, but it is not every day.

the last pci posted by Omega, i rerlate to it, it happens everyday, it helps me imgine, and i write about it at school and get A+

anyoen watched black hawk down? amazing movie...sad too..
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Post by: Omega on 17 June 2010, 03:29:50
It is not every day, still close, but it is not every day.

the last pci posted by Omega, i rerlate to it, it happens everyday, it helps me imgine, and i write about it at school and get A+

anyoen watched black hawk down? amazing movie...sad too..
Did you change your image twice today? And yeah, I saw that movie. Pretty good. While we're on war movies, have you seen "Thin Red Line"?

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/dependencies.png)
(read it carefully. If you read it too fast and didn't get it, look at the course name and its prerequisite)
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Post by: ultifd on 17 June 2010, 04:12:57
http://www.youtube.com/editor?popart=681928
Hmm...Youtube has an editor now...they quietly released it or so... Cloud Cloud Cloud...
Basically it only crops...and stuff...  :|
But it is going to be useful for everyone...  ::)
http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2010/06/youtube-video-editor.html

http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2007/06/adobe-extends-online-video-remixer-to-youtube-and-mtv.ars
this one though, the old one, that I don't remember, had more functions, but supposedly it was buggy...
EDIT: Here
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20007866-264.html CNET...  ::)
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 17 June 2010, 21:20:11
Hi everyone haven't been on in a while. How are you all. (I'm finally in summer now. Yay no school)

Yes eliminator, what about it?
You said that you would stop changing your pic every day...

Well I still think you change your pic way too much even if its not everyday anymore but its close enough. Well look at me I never changed my pic or name since I joined. well that explains alot about my creativity (bad)
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Post by: ElimiNator on 17 June 2010, 21:27:58
Hi everyone haven't been on in a while. How are you all. (I'm finally in summer now. Yay no school)

Yes eliminator, what about it?
You said that you would stop changing your pic every day...

Well I still think you change your pic way too much even if its not everyday anymore but its close enough. Well look at me I never changed my pic or name since I joined. well that explains alot about my creativity (bad)

At least when you post people remember you...
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Post by: Gabbe on 17 June 2010, 22:13:24
im feeling like people hate me because i got so many pics...
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Post by: ultifd on 17 June 2010, 22:24:19
im feeling like people hate me because i got so many pics...
I don't think anyone hates you (at least on the forum) maybe annoyed at most...and probably not that reason...
just don't change it every second  ::)  :P
...
Welcome back XxCatMysteryxX  :)
no we remember usually...
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Post by: Gabbe on 17 June 2010, 22:27:50
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Welcome back XxCatMysteryxX  Smile
no we remember usually...

the forum is like a brain, and each cell is a user, and atleast one of the cells tends to remember other cells.
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Post by: Omega on 18 June 2010, 01:37:23
Welcome back mysterycat. Summer already? Lucky... :(

Still got a few days of school then *finals*. :look:

IMO, don't change your name/image. I notice almost every time someone does that, and find it annoying. First of all, it becomes difficult to reference one person, since if I tell someone that Gabbe posted a solution, but gabbe's new name is hypercube, then the poor person who was jus' looking for some help is left hanging clueless. :O

Meany gabbe!
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Post by: ultifd on 18 June 2010, 04:41:21
So no one thinks the youtube editor is doing any good now? Or people did not see my post...  :|
http://www.youtube.com/editor?popart=681928
Hmm...Youtube has an editor now...they quietly released it or so... Cloud Cloud Cloud...
Basically it only crops...and stuff...  :|
But it is going to be useful for everyone...  ::)
http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2010/06/youtube-video-editor.html

http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2007/06/adobe-extends-online-video-remixer-to-youtube-and-mtv.ars
this one though, the old one, that I don't remember, had more functions, but supposedly it was buggy...
EDIT: Here
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20007866-264.html CNET...  ::)
oh well.
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Avatar Changing: I might change mines once at least, not like how gabbe does it, but since mines is not so original...not bad either though...
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Post by: Gabbe on 18 June 2010, 06:09:06
okay, im fine with you change your pic...do it as much as you want..i don`t care---
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 18 June 2010, 11:09:55
im feeling like people hate me because i got so many pics...

Lol I feel like people are hating on you too. Don't worry none of us hate you. But really i'm not annoyed with it cause I really don't care even though I notice everytime. When you first changed your name to hypercube I didn't know who it was I thought it was someone else. It took me about 5 mins. to realize after reading some posts
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 18 June 2010, 11:11:26
So no one thinks the youtube editor is doing any good now? Or people did not see my post...  :|
http://www.youtube.com/editor?popart=681928
Hmm...Youtube has an editor now...they quietly released it or so... Cloud Cloud Cloud...
Basically it only crops...and stuff...  :|
But it is going to be useful for everyone...  ::)
http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2010/06/youtube-video-editor.html

http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2007/06/adobe-extends-online-video-remixer-to-youtube-and-mtv.ars
this one though, the old one, that I don't remember, had more functions, but supposedly it was buggy...
EDIT: Here
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20007866-264.html CNET...  ::)

I saw your post but didn't reply. I guess its ok even though you can edit better on other editing sites
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Post by: -Archmage- on 18 June 2010, 19:11:13
Gabbe, I don't care if you change yer name and yer pic, but please don't do it all the time, I just wanna know who I'm talking to, and who I'm referring to. ;)



Hey Stephanie. :)



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Good luck. 8)
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Post by: ultifd on 18 June 2010, 19:30:26
I saw your post but didn't reply. I guess its ok even though you can edit better on other editing sites
That's fine...but...examples?  :|
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Post by: Omega on 18 June 2010, 22:44:53
So no one thinks the youtube editor is doing any good now? Or people did not see my post...  :|
http://www.youtube.com/editor?popart=681928
Hmm...Youtube has an editor now...they quietly released it or so... Cloud Cloud Cloud...
Basically it only crops...and stuff...  :|
But it is going to be useful for everyone...  ::)
http://googlesystem.blogspot.com/2010/06/youtube-video-editor.html

http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2007/06/adobe-extends-online-video-remixer-to-youtube-and-mtv.ars
this one though, the old one, that I don't remember, had more functions, but supposedly it was buggy...
EDIT: Here
http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20007866-264.html CNET...  ::)
Oh, i saw your post, but why bother replying? What use do I have for an online editor? I'm hardcore, I got my programs for that! My videos aren't limited to what windows movie maker has (lost track of how many videos on youtube have distinctly window movie maker titles).



I'm fine with changing image every now and then (please though, not more than once a month, except to get rid of an offensive image), but I don't support name changing at all. Not in the least bit. You chose a stupid name and don't like it? Too bad. Better make a good choice next time. :P
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Post by: -Archmage- on 19 June 2010, 00:53:15
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I'm fine with changing image every now and then (please though, not more than once a month, except to get rid of an offensive image), but I don't support name changing at all. Not in the least bit. You chose a stupid name and don't like it? Too bad. Better make a good choice next time. Tongue

Oops, that makes me guilty...... :scared:
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Post by: ultifd on 19 June 2010, 01:18:29
Oh, i saw your post, but why bother replying? What use do I have for an online editor? I'm hardcore, I got my programs for that! My videos aren't limited to what windows movie maker has (lost track of how many videos on youtube have distinctly window movie maker titles).
Oh, I see, I just thought people did not see it.
WMM? true...
but at least...it is what is it.
...hmm...
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Google on command?  :|
http://code.google.com/p/googlecl/
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Post by: Gabbe on 19 June 2010, 09:26:40
okay guys...want me to change back to gabbe then?
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Post by: ElimiNator on 19 June 2010, 15:26:41
Just pick Gabbe or HyperCube and keep it.
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Post by: Gabbe on 19 June 2010, 17:16:25
hard choice....I have both!
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Post by: ultifd on 19 June 2010, 18:17:47
Maybe with a slash?  :|
Or at least with out the !!
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Post by: Gabbe on 19 June 2010, 19:05:18
i took out one "!"
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Post by: ultifd on 19 June 2010, 19:07:40
Good for you, and us? Somewhat better now...
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Post by: Gabbe on 19 June 2010, 19:11:38
I can put back all the "!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" and stretch the forum more lolz
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Post by: ultifd on 19 June 2010, 19:12:26
Yeah, well that is really only "lulz" for you.  :|
....
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Post by: Gabbe on 19 June 2010, 19:18:25
lets see how long i can make my name....i change back right away after i`ve seen the impact.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 19 June 2010, 19:19:10
Oh it'll be funny when I start randomly deleting Gabbe's posts! :P

Change you're name to "Gabbe", or "Gabriel" please, that's how everyone knows you.
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Post by: Gabbe on 19 June 2010, 19:21:19
I changed!, did you guys see the impact? awesome right?
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Post by: ultifd on 19 June 2010, 19:22:58
Hmm...omega, good thing there aren't any others like Gabbe... Thanks for changing your nick though,  :thumbup:
(http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/250/ss218.jpg) (http://img15.imageshack.us/i/ss218.jpg/)
Awesome, only for you.  :|
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Post by: Gabbe on 19 June 2010, 19:25:25
the section that messed most up was the Off-Topic section, were i have started many topics, cause then things started overlapping...oh crap, maybe i cause some of the guest bots to click wrong? lol

imagine if i were admin of the forums lolz!!
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 19 June 2010, 20:17:02
wow I missed everything lol I wished I was there to see it sounds like fun. Hm I Kinda like hypercube and the other pic you had with the blue square turning around that was cool but now is fine also
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Post by: ElimiNator on 19 June 2010, 21:38:07
Dose any one play Xmoto?
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Post by: -Archmage- on 19 June 2010, 21:47:34
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imagine if i were admin of the forums lolz!!

I'm already screaming. :P Jk.



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Dose any one play Xmoto?

Downloading... ;D
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Post by: ultifd on 19 June 2010, 22:50:38
imagine if i were admin of the forums lolz!!
It would be heaven. or...  ::) JK.  :thumbup:
Dose any one play Xmoto?
Hmm, looks cool, googled it.
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Post by: Gabbe on 19 June 2010, 23:25:10
Okay, now Omega, wanna make me admin, arch is screaming "YEEEESSSS!!!" and Ultifd think it`ll be heaven! JK!
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Post by: ultifd on 19 June 2010, 23:45:25
Well, actually, if you did, I don't think it would be too bad, cause maybe you would get a message in your head to be a role model for others? Since if you were an admin... But yeah, that would be...we'll...I got nothing,  :O
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Post by: Gabbe on 19 June 2010, 23:49:16
It would be unimagineable.
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Post by: ultifd on 19 June 2010, 23:52:06
It would be unimagineable.
Not really...seriously.
Just maybe...scary?  :|
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Post by: wyvern on 19 June 2010, 23:54:04
I find Gabbe being admin near impossible but it would be funny I'll admit :O :O :O
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Post by: Gabbe on 19 June 2010, 23:54:50
OH COMON! atleast it wouldn`t be seriously, it would be jokes every friday and new theme every second and random editing and dleeting of posts, and clashing thorugh the boards and like like! you gotr no idea what i would do...i`ll probably change the names of everyone atleast every day and i would force you to change pic every sunday or your acc would get renamed to something idiotis and and and... :D :D :D :D :D :| :| ::) ;) ;) ;) ;) :O :O :O :P
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Post by: wyvern on 19 June 2010, 23:56:21
OH COMON! atleast it wouldn`t be seriously, it would be jokes every friday and new theme every second and random editing and dleeting of posts, and clashing thorugh the boards and like like! you gotr no idea what i would do...i`ll probably change the names of everyone atleast every day and i would force you to change pic every sunday or your acc would get renamed to something idiotis and and and... :D :D :D :D :D :| :| ::) ;) ;) ;) ;) :O :O :O :P
Oh dear, oh dear, :O :O :O that might be why your not made into admin ::) ::)
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Post by: ultifd on 19 June 2010, 23:57:03
OH COMON! atleast it wouldn`t be seriously, it would be jokes every friday and new theme every second and random editing and dleeting of posts, and clashing thorugh the boards and like like! you gotr no idea what i would do...i`ll probably change the names of everyone atleast every day and i would force you to change pic every sunday or your acc would get renamed to something idiotis and and and...
Well, actually, if you did, I don't think it would be too bad, cause maybe you would get a message in your head to be a role model for others?
I guess I would be wrong.  :|
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Post by: wyvern on 19 June 2010, 23:59:27
OH COMON! atleast it wouldn`t be seriously, it would be jokes every friday and new theme every second and random editing and dleeting of posts, and clashing thorugh the boards and like like! you gotr no idea what i would do...i`ll probably change the names of everyone atleast every day and i would force you to change pic every sunday or your acc would get renamed to something idiotis and and and...
Well, actually, if you did, I don't think it would be too bad, cause maybe you would get a message in your head to be a role model for others?
I guess I would be wrong.  :|
I'm afraid you would ultifd dear chap :| :|
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Post by: ultifd on 20 June 2010, 00:00:49
I'm afraid you would ultifd dear chap :| :|
People can change...though...right?  :|
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Post by: wyvern on 20 June 2010, 00:03:24
I'm afraid you would ultifd dear chap :| :|
People can change...though...right?  :|
yes sometimes and I think Gabbe would abuse his power for about a week before he got bored, lost his position, or was yelled at by everyone else so bad that he would have to behave better, still he could become responsible I suppose
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Post by: Gabbe on 20 June 2010, 00:05:56
I am yelled at by everyone now for changing pic and name, i can`t imagine how people woudl react if

OH COMON! atleast it wouldn`t be seriously, it would be jokes every friday and new theme every second and random editing and dleeting of posts, and clashing thorugh the boards and like like! you gotr no idea what i would do...i`ll probably change the names of everyone atleast every day and i would force you to change pic every sunday or your acc would get renamed to something idiotis and and and... :D :D :D :D :D :| :| ::) ;) ;) ;) ;) :O :O :O :P
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Post by: wyvern on 20 June 2010, 00:06:28
Yes thats true :O :O :O
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Post by: Gabbe on 20 June 2010, 00:11:03
BTW when GAE is released, then with 16 player support, then we could probably have a huge match with all of the active forum members. Everyone gets to choose their own faction and then let someone trusted balance them out, whatcha think?
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Post by: wyvern on 20 June 2010, 00:12:42
BTW when GAE is released, then with 16 player support, then we could probably have a huge match with all of the active forum members. Everyone gets to choose their own faction and then let someone trusted balance them out, whatcha think?
Thats a great idea though I'm afraid I'd beat everyone here :P :P :P
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Post by: ultifd on 20 June 2010, 00:15:22
BTW when GAE is released, then with 16 player support, then we could probably have a huge match with all of the active forum members. Everyone gets to choose their own faction and then let someone trusted balance them out, whatcha think?
Nah, at first it is 12 remember? and about 1/2 or more of people's comps can't handle it, others want to stick with MG, and probably others have something else to do in there life.
I like 8, but 12 or 16 is cool too I guess.
But since I think GAE uses the old vanilla Gest system for multiplayer, then...I'd stick with MG.  ::) I remember it was really bad...
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Post by: Gabbe on 20 June 2010, 00:18:27
I think GAE have plans for developi9ngs a same server system as MG IDK though. I managed to make a tic tac toe on c++ visual basic!
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Post by: ultifd on 20 June 2010, 00:20:37
I think GAE have plans for developi9ngs a same server system as MG IDK though. I managed to make a tic tac toe on c++ visual basic!
GAE multiplayer: no, I'm pretty sure...but we'll see.  :thumbup:
C++: Awesome, cool, screenshot?  :|
Probably you should post in the other thread about that...though. If you already have the last post, then you can edit it...you know...that button?  ::)
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Post by: Gabbe on 20 June 2010, 00:26:04
it was a "console game" int he term of CommandPrompt or CMD, damn, should never have clicked that bloody cross! anyways, found a great tut on how to do it, "c++ console tic tac toe" on youtube right now im trying to make a RPG, kinda seriously hard...
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Post by: ElimiNator on 20 June 2010, 01:33:07
BTW when GAE is released, then with 16 player support, then we could probably have a huge match with all of the active forum members. Everyone gets to choose their own faction and then let someone trusted balance them out, whatcha think?
I would be so choppy from the start.. Imagine when we got far into the game...
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Post by: ultifd on 20 June 2010, 06:27:27
Hmm... E3... cool.  :thumbup: Awesome...I think Nintendo was the best out of Sony and Microsoft though...new Zelda looks sweet! Sony and Microsoft were good too...though.  :thumbup:
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Post by: Gabbe on 20 June 2010, 11:18:53
you mean the two companies that have a brutal war in the gaming industry?  ::) ::)

PS3 FTW!
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 20 June 2010, 13:15:35
Dose any one play Xmoto?
eh not my type of game...

OH COMON! atleast it wouldn`t be seriously, it would be jokes every friday and new theme every second and random editing and dleeting of posts, and clashing thorugh the boards and like like! you gotr no idea what i would do...i`ll probably change the names of everyone atleast every day and i would force you to change pic every sunday or your acc would get renamed to something idiotis and and and... :D :D :D :D :D :| :| ::) ;) ;) ;) ;) :O :O :O :P

oh jeez......one word; Responsibility. Thats what it take to be one. LOL I'm sure you will do something like that if you were one though. But actually it would be quite funny (to me), to others not so much. Hmm I think I have good responsibility to be one don't you think...  :angel:

BTW when GAE is released, then with 16 player support, then we could probably have a huge match with all of the active forum members. Everyone gets to choose their own faction and then let someone trusted balance them out, whatcha think?
Thats a great idea though I'm afraid I'd beat everyone here :P :P :P

That would actually be fun. Muahahhahaha I would beat you all  :scientist:

Nah, at first it is 12 remember? and about 1/2 or more of people's comps can't handle it, others want to stick with MG, and probably others have something else to do in there life.
I like 8, but 12 or 16 is cool too I guess.
But since I think GAE uses the old vanilla Gest system for multiplayer, then...I'd stick with MG.  ::) I remember it was really bad...

Lol I have no life I would so wanna do it  ::)
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 20 June 2010, 13:25:48
What do you think of my new picture I really like this one
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Post by: Gabbe on 20 June 2010, 14:05:13
okay, btw, now there is catmystery and hairy cat lolz  ::)
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 20 June 2010, 14:18:44
okay, btw, now there is catmystery and hairy cat lolz  ::)

Yah I know I saw that. I have no idea who he is, not me.... He copied me
I was also thinking of changing my name soon but idk to what maybe something like MySTeRyKilLErZ (better not take my idea)

What do you think of my new picture I really like this one

I took this picture myself I didn't want to tell until someone said it was good or not but im impatient (Yes OMEGA, I did quote myself again)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 20 June 2010, 15:19:51
if you cnage name...everyone is going to shout at you in every topic you post in...trust5 me...i`ve been through that...
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 20 June 2010, 15:38:42
if you change name...everyone is going to shout at you in every topic you post in...trust5 me...i`ve been through that...

haha i know....
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Post by: John.d.h on 20 June 2010, 19:16:11
I was also thinking of changing my name soon but idk to what maybe something like MySTeRyKilLErZ (better not take my idea)
lol AlTcApS?  Please no. :P
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 20 June 2010, 19:19:00
"XxFrogMysteryxX" maybe...everyone will recognoise you..
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Post by: Omega on 20 June 2010, 22:22:19
Ok, I think Gabbe actually provoked me to having to make a future update to the theme. Overflow will cut off the text, so the NOOBS who try to make super long user names (*cough cough*) won't be such a menace.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 20 June 2010, 22:52:21
crap..and i who have tyhought of making a extreme long name...
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Post by: ultifd on 20 June 2010, 23:00:53
Good thing we don't have any noobs aren't here...for now.  :| Joking...

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Lol I have no life I would so wanna do it
Hmm, ok, cool... (not the no life part, that you are up for it...  ::) ) ...
you mean the two companies that have a brutal war in the gaming industry?
PS3 FTW!
Maybe.  :P
PS3? Was cool... but they just copied Nintendo basically...  :| Oh well, still cool I guess...
Games that are more real then life?  :|
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 20 June 2010, 23:50:34
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PS3? Was cool... but they just copied Nintendo basically...  :| Oh well, still cool I guess...
Games that are more real then life?  :|

I just reasently got a PS2
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Post by: ultifd on 20 June 2010, 23:53:23
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PS3? Was cool... but they just copied Nintendo basically...  :| Oh well, still cool I guess...
Games that are more real then life?  :|
I just reasently got a PS2
Cool.  :thumbup:
Although I was talking about what they showed, etc... but,  :thumbup:
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 21 June 2010, 00:07:01
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PS3? Was cool... but they just copied Nintendo basically...  :| Oh well, still cool I guess...
Games that are more real then life?  :|
I just reasently got a PS2
Cool.  :thumbup:
Although I was talking about what they showed, etc... but,  :thumbup:

yah I just wanted to say though. My favorite game is Final Fantsy XII. Oh I also got an elelctric guitar and a haircut
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Post by: ultifd on 21 June 2010, 00:23:08
Yeah, I know. Still, was just making sure.  :thumbup:
Oh, cool, nice.  :thumbup:
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Post by: Gabbe on 21 June 2010, 13:56:18
comon ultifd...PS3 and Xbox360 are both totally screwing that Wii piece of crap..
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Post by: Omega on 21 June 2010, 16:31:39
yah I just wanted to say though. My favorite game is Final Fantsy XII. Oh I also got an elelctric guitar and a haircut
Please tell me you're kidding me! As interesting as the battle styles were, Square Enix RUINED final fantasy starting with this game. Viva la Final Fantasy IX!
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Post by: ultifd on 21 June 2010, 17:19:18
Everyone has their own opinions... I think they were all good, but...Nintendo was best...
yah I just wanted to say though. My favorite game is Final Fantsy XII. Oh I also got an elelctric guitar and a haircut
Please tell me you're kidding me! As interesting as the battle styles were, Square Enix RUINED final fantasy starting with this game. Viva la Final Fantasy IX!
:thumbup:
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Post by: -Archmage- on 21 June 2010, 17:55:55
Zelda's the best!!! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

I beat Wind Waker(once) and Twilight Princess(more than two times), LOVED THEM BOTH!!!!! :cheesy: :cheesy: :cheesy:
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Post by: ultifd on 21 June 2010, 18:08:30
Zelda's the best!!! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
I agree.  :thumbup: Awesome, too bad they had wireless problems...  :|
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Post by: -Archmage- on 21 June 2010, 18:11:58
Wireless problems?

I played both on the GameCube, no need for wireless, which is not healthy for the body anyway.
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Post by: ultifd on 21 June 2010, 18:13:06
Wireless problems?

I played both on the GameCube, no need for wireless, which is not healthy for the body anyway.
I know, I am talking about the conference at E3... they had wireless interference, which made the gameplay look worse or bad...
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 21 June 2010, 19:33:21
Please tell me you're kidding me! As interesting as the battle styles were, Square Enix RUINED final fantasy starting with this game. Viva la Final Fantasy IX!
haha im not kidding its awesome im so far in it too. But FFXIII is by far the best then second FFXII
 :thumbdown:
Zelda's the best!!! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

I beat Wind Waker(once) and Twilight Princess(more than two times), LOVED THEM BOTH!!!!! :cheesy: :cheesy: :cheesy:

I have have games of zelda love them too. I have Spirt Tracks, Phantum of the hour glass, The minish cap, and link's awakining but i never beat any of them but all of them im so close to the end.

Great site for walkthroughs and stuff for all the zelda games. Hmm it really changed in the last couple of months
http://www.zeldadungeon.net/
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Post by: John.d.h on 21 June 2010, 20:49:31
Speaking of the Zelda series, anybody tried the "three-heart challenge"?
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Post by: ultifd on 21 June 2010, 20:54:59
Speaking of the Zelda series, anybody tried the "three-heart challenge"?
:dead: I would be...no  ::)
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Post by: -Archmage- on 21 June 2010, 23:53:20
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Speaking of the Zelda series, anybody tried the "three-heart challenge"?

Nope, and I can't because my Gamecube is broken. But my friend Jordan beat it.
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Post by: John.d.h on 22 June 2010, 00:06:56
Too bad.  I was trying it on Ocarina of Time and got all the way to the boss fight with Volvagia (Fire Temple as adult Link).  I was doing pretty well, but my N64 is back at my folks' house.  Maybe one of these days I'll get an emulator. :look:
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Post by: ultifd on 22 June 2010, 00:11:03
Well, emulator's are cool, but they somehow and sometimes...ruin the fun?  :|
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Post by: Omega on 22 June 2010, 03:11:13
Please tell me you're kidding me! As interesting as the battle styles were, Square Enix RUINED final fantasy starting with this game. Viva la Final Fantasy IX!
haha im not kidding its awesome im so far in it too. But FFXIII is by far the best then second FFXII
 :thumbdown:
Not... joking? Have you played Final Fantasy IV and VI-IX yet? That, my friend, is how Final Fantasy is meant to be! XIII is ok, it has a decent storyline (better than XII at least!) but totally nixed the battle style, as well as the level up style, and is continuing the awful tradition of having only weapons and accessories as equipment. It also makes gameplay way too linear for the most part, not letting you have anything optional until you reach gran pulse, and it's still limited there. Another big problem is the overpoweredness of the monsters, since it doesn't matter how much of your party is alive. It's game over when the leader dies, not the entire party (even XII did better than that, if your 3 characters were defeated, you could switch to your reserve 3). When the party first lands on Gran Pulse, some of the enemies are literally capable of one hit KOing you!

Fail Square Enix, Fail.



Legend of Zelda is great, though I still prefer twilight princess because it has everything we know and love, plus more, not to mention gorgeous graphics. True, graphics aren't everything, but with TP's great gameplay, its double the awesomeness!



Emulators are fine IMO, since they let you play games on outdated consoles that are hard to find. How many people can still switch to their N64 to play Legend of Zelda?
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Post by: ultifd on 22 June 2010, 03:20:37
Legend of Zelda is great, though I still prefer twilight princess because it has everything we know and love, plus more, not to mention gorgeous graphics. True, graphics aren't everything, but with TP's great gameplay, its double the awesomeness!
Well, I think Skyward Sword is going to be great. Looks great, and I can have some fun or memories from Wind Waker...  ::)
Also, I heard they are re making OoT for 3DS...  :thumbup:  :|

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Emulators are fine IMO, since they let you play games on outdated consoles that are hard to find. How many people can still switch to their N64 to play Legend of Zelda?
Yeah, I agree. But, sometimes they ruin the fun by having cheats, or it just doesn't feel like you are playing the game...compared to the game's original platform. But, it's still cool. , OoT, I'm lucky...I have that gamecube version of it...  :) and I still have my super Nintendo, along with a Dreamcast that I don't play much.
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 22 June 2010, 13:36:35
Not... joking? Have you played Final Fantasy IV and VI-IX yet? That, my friend, is how Final Fantasy is meant to be! XIII is ok, it has a decent storyline (better than XII at least!) but totally nixed the battle style, as well as the level up style, and is continuing the awful tradition of having only weapons and accessories as equipment. It also makes gameplay way too linear for the most part, not letting you have anything optional until you reach gran pulse, and it's still limited there. Another big problem is the overpoweredness of the monsters, since it doesn't matter how much of your party is alive. It's game over when the leader dies, not the entire party (even XII did better than that, if your 3 characters were defeated, you could switch to your reserve 3). When the party first lands on Gran Pulse, some of the enemies are literally capable of one hit KOing you!
Fail Square Enix, Fail.
Hmmm maybe I will try the earlier ones by Square Enix.  :thumbup:

Well, I think Skyward Sword is going to be great. Looks great, and I can have some fun or memories from Wind Waker...  ::)
Also, I heard they are re making OoT for 3DS...  :thumbup:  :|.
I been looking forward to it. I can't wait, acourse i would have to get a wii first (either wait til birthday [september] or buy it myself sooner) . Hmm more games that I would have lol  ::) My friend says I have to many game systems and too many games and I play too much. He has a wii and a Nitendo Ds and he sold his xbox (which i wanted to buy) but his mom doesn't let him play video games that much CAN YOU BELIEVE IT! THATS TOURTURE!
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Post by: ultifd on 22 June 2010, 17:08:31
Well, I think Skyward Sword is going to be great. Looks great, and I can have some fun or memories from Wind Waker...  ::)
Also, I heard they are re making OoT for 3DS...  :thumbup:  :|.
I been looking forward to it. I can't wait, acourse i would have to get a wii first (either wait til birthday [september] or buy it myself sooner) . Hmm more games that I would have lol  ::) My friend says I have to many game systems and too many games and I play too much. He has a wii and a Nitendo Ds and he sold his xbox (which i wanted to buy) but his mom doesn't let him play video games that much CAN YOU BELIEVE IT! THATS TOURTURE!
Well, if are going to get a wii, get it for a good deal. Sometimes, you can get it for 30 to 50 bucks cheaper with an extra game  :)
Not playing video games? I can believe it. I mean, the main problem is that you get addicted, you don't focus on school, and etc...
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 22 June 2010, 18:17:27
Well, if are going to get a wii, get it for a good deal. Sometimes, you can get it for 30 to 50 bucks cheaper with an extra game  :)
Not playing video games? I can believe it. I mean, the main problem is that you get addicted, you don't focus on school, and etc...
well im really good at school and i do focus i just like to have fun sometimes not just always work work work (no wonder why he was a nerd so much smarter than me)
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Post by: ultifd on 22 June 2010, 18:20:53
Maybe, but some people, they just get really addicted...even people that just work hard in school...  ::)
Like WoW.
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Post by: Gabbe on 22 June 2010, 21:55:09
sometimes WoW is a very fun game to play, i play it when i feel like going on a adventure...thing is, i get bored after a week...
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Post by: ultifd on 22 June 2010, 23:01:42
sometimes WoW is a very fun game to play, i play it when i feel like going on a adventure...thing is, i get bored after a week...
Probably better, most people (and some I know) get hooked on it...so addicted for some reason...
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Post by: Gabbe on 22 June 2010, 23:05:05
WoW is addictive, it appeals to the human instinct of survival and the need to bypass others, become better than others, the competition, and all that gets so interesting that they can`t quit, one of WoWs original authors said so.
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Post by: ultifd on 22 June 2010, 23:06:04
WoW is addictive, it appeals to the human instinct of survival and the need to bypass others, become better than others, the competition, and all that gets so interesting that they can`t quit, one of WoWs original authors said so.
Well, everyone knows that, but I wonder why...like did the authors try to...make it addictive...  :|
Hmm...
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Post by: Gabbe on 22 June 2010, 23:07:30
Money will be the first thing that comes to mind, maybe we can make glest a lil more addictive?...just a lil bit...mini...micro...
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Post by: ultifd on 22 June 2010, 23:12:26
It is addictive, it can be at least, it just depends on what are type of thing you are playing/working on it, or if you have other things to do...
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Post by: Omega on 22 June 2010, 23:27:26
Also, I heard they are re making OoT for 3DS...  :thumbup:  :|
Indeed, that has been confirmed. Can't wait, though that would mean I'd have to buy another system... I put off by using my original DS since the beginning of time. I didn't consider buying a DS Lite, DSi, or DS XL simply because I didn't need them. But the 3DS will be a whole new line of systems, so I suppose it's necessary. Makes you wonder if they can keep prices to the same as it was to the original DS?



I believe video game addiction exists. When I first got Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, I played for 12 hours in one day! I also can easily play runescape for hours without noticing the passing time (that is, until I lag and see a glimpse of the clock at the bottom!).

However, they don't impact my school work or the rest of my life. That is for the weak-minded.
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Post by: ultifd on 22 June 2010, 23:32:18
Also, I heard they are re making OoT for 3DS...  :thumbup:  :|
Indeed, that has been confirmed. Can't wait, though that would mean I'd have to buy another system... I put off by using my original DS since the beginning of time. I didn't consider buying a DS Lite, DSi, or DS XL simply because I didn't need them. But the 3DS will be a whole new line of systems, so I suppose it's necessary. Makes you wonder if they can keep prices to the same as it was to the original DS?
I see, thanks for telling me. I only saw spoiler images...  ::)  :thumbup:

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I believe video game addiction exists. When I first got Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, I played for 12 hours in one day! I also can easily play runescape for hours without noticing the passing time (that is, until I lag and see a glimpse of the clock at the bottom!).
Yeah, I am somewhat the same. I can even be like that with Glest... (general, not posting on the forums, but playing...)

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However, they don't impact my school work or the rest of my life. That is for the weak-minded.
  :thumbup: Yeah, too bad we are all humans...we're just so weak...besides in glest!  :P  :O
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Post by: John.d.h on 23 June 2010, 02:42:13
Pretty sure I've already posted this here before, but it's pretty relevant to the discussion:
http://www.cracked.com/article_18461_5-creepy-ways-video-games-are-trying-to-get-you-addicted.html (http://www.cracked.com/article_18461_5-creepy-ways-video-games-are-trying-to-get-you-addicted.html)
(disclaimer)As a Cracked article, there's bound to be some strong language... so yeah.(/disclaimer)

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If you've ever been addicted to a game or known someone who was, this article is really freaking disturbing. It's written by a games researcher at Microsoft on how to make video games that hook players, whether they like it or not. He has a doctorate in behavioral and brain sciences. Quote:

"Each contingency is an arrangement of time, activity, and reward, and there are an infinite number of ways these elements can be combined to produce the pattern of activity you want from your players."

Notice his article does not contain the words "fun" or "enjoyment." That's not his field. Instead it's "the pattern of activity you want."

The "really freaking disturbing" article from the quote:
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3085/behavioral_game_design.php?page=1 (http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3085/behavioral_game_design.php?page=1)

Additionally, semi-related:
http://www.cracked.com/article_16330_5-innovative-ways-gaming-industry-screwing-you.html (http://www.cracked.com/article_16330_5-innovative-ways-gaming-industry-screwing-you.html)
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Post by: Omega on 23 June 2010, 02:49:34
Not... joking? Have you played Final Fantasy IV and VI-IX yet? That, my friend, is how Final Fantasy is meant to be! XIII is ok, it has a decent storyline (better than XII at least!) but totally nixed the battle style, as well as the level up style, and is continuing the awful tradition of having only weapons and accessories as equipment. It also makes gameplay way too linear for the most part, not letting you have anything optional until you reach gran pulse, and it's still limited there. Another big problem is the overpoweredness of the monsters, since it doesn't matter how much of your party is alive. It's game over when the leader dies, not the entire party (even XII did better than that, if your 3 characters were defeated, you could switch to your reserve 3). When the party first lands on Gran Pulse, some of the enemies are literally capable of one hit KOing you!
Fail Square Enix, Fail.
Hmmm maybe I will try the earlier ones by Square Enix.  :thumbup:
Good idea. Though I must admit that I still did enjoy some of FF XII's elements. Namely the battle against the ultimate mark: Yiazmat! Took my 6 hours to take the brute down! 50 million HP? Who was square kidding? Still, best monster fight I've ever had!



Hmm, I saw that article before john. Pretty neat.
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Post by: ultifd on 23 June 2010, 02:52:20
Yeah, I remember John, don't worry... we won't forget   ::)
Well maybe, but I remember
Hmm...
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Post by: John.d.h on 23 June 2010, 03:15:59
Yeah, well the actual Gamasutra article is kinda creepy considering it's basically a scholarly review of how to manipulate and (in some ways) coerce players into doing what the designers want.  I guess it's just disconcerting to know we're being tricked, and how many aspects of games are designed completely without regard to fun, rather just to keep us metaphorical rats pulling a lever.  I'm kinda glad I haven't played any MMOs in a long time.

Oh, and regarding the latest Final Fantasy:
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Post by: ultifd on 23 June 2010, 05:17:27
Hmm...no disclaimer about that "Spoiler"...  ::) oh well... Anyways I got  :| on it...

Yeah, people need to "keep" themselves together...everyone has a choice...usually,  :|

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/toot.png)
 :O
EDIT: I just found out that Firefox has been updated...  :)
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Post by: Gabbe on 23 June 2010, 13:14:15
me too...and that it had to download and upgrade a whole pack of programs...mhm john, maybe it is some kind of "smart" of the designers to do it, like they are forcing us to do something boring and then get us some fun, atleast that is what i think RS is based on..
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Post by: ultifd on 23 June 2010, 18:36:43
Well, for the most part, all they care is about the money they get...
But yeah...
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 24 June 2010, 01:40:09
me too...and that it had to download and upgrade a whole pack of programs...mhm john, maybe it is some kind of "smart" of the designers to do it, like they are forcing us to do something boring and then get us some fun, atleast that is what i think RS is based on..

Alot of the fun RS has to do with the people on; like if your friends are on the better or nice and cool people it makes it funner,other then thatIts basicly doing the same thing all over again but whenever and whatever you want
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Post by: ultifd on 24 June 2010, 07:44:51
Alot of the fun RS has to do with the people on; like if your friends are on the better or nice and cool people it makes it funner,other then thatIts basicly doing the same thing all over again but whenever and whatever you want
Yeah, but usually that only applies to members...for F2P, you can't really be better...not by a lot, usually...  ::)
Anyways...  :|
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Post by: Omega on 25 June 2010, 17:10:22
Yeah, well the actual Gamasutra article is kinda creepy considering it's basically a scholarly review of how to manipulate and (in some ways) coerce players into doing what the designers want.  I guess it's just disconcerting to know we're being tricked, and how many aspects of games are designed completely without regard to fun, rather just to keep us metaphorical rats pulling a lever.  I'm kinda glad I haven't played any MMOs in a long time.

Oh, and regarding the latest Final Fantasy:
(click to show/hide)
Indeed john. That's all to true. Not really much of a spoiler IMO though. It's no secret that Square Enix is ruining the franchise, and the game IS surprisingly linear until a certain point of the game (too little and too late). You can only control the one party leader, and if he/she dies, it's game over, and since some foes are strong enough to OHKO you, it can be an instant game over (of course, that's what the Sentinel, FF XIII's tank class, is for).

me too...and that it had to download and upgrade a whole pack of programs...mhm john, maybe it is some kind of "smart" of the designers to do it, like they are forcing us to do something boring and then get us some fun, atleast that is what i think RS is based on..

Alot of the fun RS has to do with the people on; like if your friends are on the better or nice and cool people it makes it funner,other then thatIts basicly doing the same thing all over again but whenever and whatever you want
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Post by: ultifd on 26 June 2010, 16:01:25
Yeah...anyways, what are good ways to make "money" in Runescape...Hmm I probably know the F2P ones already, as it is limited... for members there are lots...but any really good F2P ones?  :|
Thanks.
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Post by: Gabbe on 26 June 2010, 18:55:04
lol sqaure enıx only hype up theır fans wıth a super traıler and then leave ıt to them...
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Post by: Omega on 26 June 2010, 20:29:16
lol sqaure enıx only hype up theır fans wıth a super traıler and then leave ıt to them...
Unforunately so. My biggest beefs are the extremely linear gameplay and the fact you can only control one person (ie: if my party is set up as a melee fighter, a healer, and a buffer, in one occasion, I might want to focus on strong melee attacks, so I'd want the buffer to make my melee attacker stronger. In a different occasion, I might want him to focus on making the healer's magic stronger, so that she can keep up with strong enemies. You can't control that person unless hes your leader, and then you'd have to pass up your control over the fighter...)

And of course, as I mentioned before, OHKOing enemies sucks... At one point of the game, there is a large enemy that is capable of dealing 9999 damage to your leader, and is insanely fast, not to mention millions of HP. Not sure how to defeat it (if possible) yet. I'm playing FF XIII only in my free time, so haven't quite won yet (near the end though).

There's lots more I could say, but I don't want to spoil anything...

//EDIT: Ok, I found out how to kill that adamantoise now, though the necessary character hasn't learned that ability yet. I've been focusing her on the ravenger role mostly, rather than the saboteur.
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Post by: ultifd on 28 June 2010, 05:09:37
Yeah, well the actual Gamasutra article is kinda creepy considering it's basically a scholarly review of how to manipulate and (in some ways) coerce players into doing what the designers want.  I guess it's just disconcerting to know we're being tricked, and how many aspects of games are designed completely without regard to fun, rather just to keep us metaphorical rats pulling a lever.  I'm kinda glad I haven't played any MMOs in a long time.
Me too, not the best memories...although they can be fun too, I guess...
Besides, Runescape, I don't really count it though...  :|
Good thing Glest is not...like this...right? I hope...
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 28 June 2010, 14:11:28
Yeah, well the actual Gamasutra article is kinda creepy considering it's basically a scholarly review of how to manipulate and (in some ways) coerce players into doing what the designers want.  I guess it's just disconcerting to know we're being tricked, and how many aspects of games are designed completely without regard to fun, rather just to keep us metaphorical rats pulling a lever.  I'm kinda glad I haven't played any MMOs in a long time.
Me too, not the best memories...although they can be fun too, I guess...
Besides, Runescape, I don't really count it though...  :|
Good thing Glest is not...like this...right? I hope...

I don't even know what MMO'S IS....
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Post by: Gabbe on 28 June 2010, 14:43:45
MMO? you could wrıte MMORPG but ıts too long, fancy sayıng 'massıve multıplayer onlıne roleplayıng game'?

BTW JaGex ıs a good company that treats theır customers well, and unlıke other games, they care for theır communıty, dıd you know the norwegıan communıty ıs developıng a quest on the forums? It ıs confırmed to be ın the game whenb fınıshed.
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Post by: Omega on 29 June 2010, 02:56:54
MMO? you could wrıte MMORPG but ıts too long, fancy sayıng 'massıve multıplayer onlıne roleplayıng game'?

BTW JaGex ıs a good company that treats theır customers well, and unlıke other games, they care for theır communıty, dıd you know the norwegıan communıty ıs developıng a quest on the forums? It ıs confırmed to be ın the game whenb fınıshed.
I agree. With some exceptions of course! For example, they take more priority over stopping RWT over making the game as enjoyable as possible. I mean, I loath bots and real world traders, but I don't think any fixes should impact our ability to have trade. I'm all for the trade counter which shows the balance of the trade, to keep new players from being scammed, but I don't like caps or limits.

Another example: The **** price of climbing boots update! They made a bunch of noob pkers billionaires in an instant because of the stupid thing. I swear, with this and price caps in the GE, jagex is interfering too much with a fragile economy (yes, runescape's massive economy resembles ours today).



I must admit, the G20 summit in toronto is showing a bad example of canadians. I have nothing against peaceful protests, but someone fireballed a police car!!! For god's sake, this reminds me of pictures of a protest in a European country I saw a little while back (not sure what country. Something about some boy killed before).
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Post by: Gabbe on 29 June 2010, 14:18:53
Runescape's economy is goıng bad? I think too that Jagex shouldn't ınterfere, stıll, at least the RS economy has 'gods/mods' that can rebuild or stop the prıces from rısıng or lowerıng.

Watch out for those Americans south of you! They got the worst protests!

(Waitıng for kukac omega was here gabbe to rid my post of capitals...)
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 30 June 2010, 14:02:05
MMO? you could wrıte MMORPG but ıts too long, fancy sayıng 'massıve multıplayer onlıne roleplayıng game'?
RS is a MMORPG it says it on the site. OH well its still fun i guess ::)

Runescape's economy is goıng bad?
Hmmmm   :look:

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(Waitıng for kukac OMEGA WAS HERE to rid my post of capitals...)
lol  :O
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Post by: Omega on 1 July 2010, 21:51:33
[Removes Spam]



Happy Canada Day!
(http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/photos/2008/06/25/wide-canadaday-fireworks-cp.jpg)

At last, it's here! It's canada day! July 1st, the anniversary of Canada's BNA act, the first written constitution for the great country of Canada!

(http://www.wondercliparts.com/holidays/canada_day/canada_day_graphics_05.gif)
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Post by: ultifd on 1 July 2010, 21:54:16
Softcoder reminded me.  :thumbup:
Happy Canada Day!
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Post by: wyvern on 2 July 2010, 00:54:45
Happy Canada day ;D ;D
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Post by: ultifd on 2 July 2010, 03:38:54
OK...anyways, how did this thread start?  :| Something about a lost Community Faction...Some OTism, then this was born?
Well if you want to make that argument, then how does Magic recruit Daemons and Ghosts? (and the more important questions like "Why does Tech's Swordsman have a leather armor type when he's clearly wearing chainmail?" or "How does the Ornithopter hover?  What kind of steroids is that pilot doing and where can I get some?")
:thumbup: Nougth' said... or is it? Probably so...
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Post by: ElimiNator on 2 July 2010, 04:53:26
HPY CD
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Post by: ultifd on 2 July 2010, 05:43:00
 :thumbup:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/darkconnection/yaynewstuff.jpg
Looks cool. :thumbup: Too bad that is along with a bunch of other stuff that was shown, is cool, but never released to the public...  :(
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Post by: ElimiNator on 2 July 2010, 06:36:50
What is that from? All the stuff looks strange...
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Post by: ultifd on 2 July 2010, 07:02:21
I don't know, found it from an old thread somewhere...
Well...not really strange, but cool I would say. Somewhat similar...to tech. But never released.
I'll tell you what, I am kinda  :( that we can not try it...
EDIT: Here is the thread, maybe we could try to PM or email that person  :|
https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=1273.0
The cannon thing looks cool, at least.
Another ss: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/darkconnection/4rivers.jpg
Other one: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/darkconnection/yaynewstuff.jpg
Or not. 4 years... heh.
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Post by: ElimiNator on 2 July 2010, 17:11:20
I don't think he is on any more...
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Post by: ultifd on 2 July 2010, 18:37:28
Obviously... anyways like the 1000+ members that aren't too?  :| Others are bots, basically.
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Post by: wyvern on 2 July 2010, 19:15:09
that stuff looks awesome :o :o, I have a tank model thing but its not the same type, what the pic shows looks like an artillery vehicle, whats the shield thing :| :|, I wish that stuff had come out :( :(
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Post by: Gabbe on 2 July 2010, 22:40:35
GRATZ oMEGA.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 3 July 2010, 05:32:15
Happy kinda late Canaday!

Why write two words when you can write one, eh? :P

No seriously, happy kinda late Canady day....... for some reason I want to type Canady.

Really, happy Canable d--, *sign*....... Happy Can-Opener Da--    *ugh* *brain off* *brain on* *brain off* *brain on* *brain off* *brain on* *brain off* *brain on* *brain off* *brain on* *brain off*  *whacks self with hammer THUD!!! * *brain on*

Happy Canada Day, hope it was fun. :)



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Good night, I gotta go recharge.
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 3 July 2010, 16:49:43
Happy kinda late Canada day!
dito.... tee hee
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Post by: John.d.h on 3 July 2010, 21:40:49
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Post by: wyvern on 3 July 2010, 23:57:23
hahahahahahahaha :O :O :O :O :O :O :O, buuuuuuut I'm not surprised, how many girls are active on the glest forum other then mystery cat ::) ::)
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Post by: -Archmage- on 4 July 2010, 01:20:19
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hahahahahahahaha Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing, buuuuuuut I'm not surprised, how many girls are active on the glest forum other then mystery cat Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

One. Me!
Jk, I'm a guy. :P
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 4 July 2010, 15:00:30
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hahahahahahahaha Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing, buuuuuuut I'm not surprised, how many girls are active on the glest forum other then mystery cat Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

One. Me!
Jk, I'm a guy. :P

haha Are you sure about that? lol jk. hmmm yea im like the only active girl well i don't care its cool
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Post by: Omega on 5 July 2010, 00:19:37
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hahahahahahahaha Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing, buuuuuuut I'm not surprised, how many girls are active on the glest forum other then mystery cat Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

One. Me!
Jk, I'm a guy. :P

haha Are you sure about that? lol jk. hmmm yea im like the only active girl well i don't care its cool
It is indeed cool!  :thumbup:

To answer a few questions: You could contact the creator of that mod through his website or his email, both viewable on his profile.

How Offtopic Thread was born: A long long time ago, in a forum board far far away, we got offtopic, I was having windows troubles, and posted a few humourous comics for it, which later was split off and moved to general discussion, where it was renamed to Off Topic. When I created the offtopic board, I moved it here and renamed it Off Topic - Main. Wow, history is cool!
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Post by: John.d.h on 5 July 2010, 00:54:49
Does anybody care that it's Independence Day here in the States?
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Post by: wyvern on 5 July 2010, 01:47:25
YES YES YES fireworks Gandalf fireworks.
yep its independence day in the states Huzzah, Huzzah. ;D ;D
but seriously, its been a good independence day :) :), fireworks were fun, and better then last years for me here in Delaware at least
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Post by: -Archmage- on 5 July 2010, 04:04:19
Yay! It's the 4th-a July!!!

I just have to tease you guys......... :P
The Portland fireworks were practically the best in the US, we had our awesome city symphony orchestra play lots of American classical themes!

At the end all you could see was a huge mass of colorful fireworks. :o
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Post by: ultifd on 5 July 2010, 06:39:46
How Offtopic Thread was born: A long long time ago, in a forum board far far away, we got offtopic, I was having windows troubles, and posted a few humourous comics for it, which later was split off and moved to general discussion, where it was renamed to Off Topic. When I created the offtopic board, I moved it here and renamed it Off Topic - Main. Wow, history is cool!
:thumbup: Thanks,  :O It is.

Does anybody care that it's Independence Day here in the States?
I did.  :P Was awesome...though for some cities, there might not be any fireworks anymore...if not now, later...oh well  :|

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That's kinda just the online community though, alike to Glest...  :|
In the future it'll change anyways, cause...we'll see. Nothing bad or good about that though, IMO.
haha Are you sure about that? lol jk. hmmm yea im like the only active girl well i don't care its cool
:thumbup: Yeah, you won't be the only one...or so, soon I guess.  :|
One. Me!
Jk, I'm a guy. :P
Hmm...well...  :o oh...just kidding,  :O

Anyways, yeah...oh one more thing.
that stuff looks awesome :o :o, I have a tank model thing but its not the same type, what the pic shows looks like an artillery vehicle, whats the shield thing :| :|, I wish that stuff had come out :( :(
Yeah, me too. Maybe someway you could, or we...we'll see.
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Post by: Gabbe on 5 July 2010, 15:41:53
Congratulatıons US people!  :O ;)
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Post by: wyvern on 5 July 2010, 19:09:36
Thank you ;D ;D ;D :O :O
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Post by: wyvern on 6 July 2010, 00:33:21
awful heat in the states :( :(it hit 100 degrees in some spots in Delaware, I went to the gymnastics practice and they don't have AC, so most people were :zzz: :zzz: or :dead: :dead:,
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Post by: ultifd on 6 July 2010, 00:36:41
Hmm, with AC you are either choosing to help yourself and kinda hurt the earth, or the opposite...Even if there is no global warming, I don't really want to discuss about that, because some people can't handle it, it doesn't bring good either...etc.
But yeah, it is kinda hot sometimes. Not everywhere though.
Every year it is getting hotter or colder at places. I wonder why.
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Post by: wyvern on 6 July 2010, 00:38:07
who knows, global warming maybe :| :|
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Post by: ultifd on 6 July 2010, 00:39:44
who knows, global warming maybe :| :|
Don't start, not for me, but for others...
OT OT,  I kinda hate OTism. Very annoying.
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Post by: wyvern on 6 July 2010, 00:42:14
This is OT topic :O :O :O
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Post by: ultifd on 6 July 2010, 00:44:03
I don't mean that, like when people go OT a lot in other threads...  :|
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Post by: wyvern on 6 July 2010, 00:57:39
Oh okay :) :) :)
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Post by: ultifd on 6 July 2010, 03:05:50
Yeah.

So john...you sell these products? err... or...  :|
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Weird, found this post. I think that is the sun and moon faction... err...Solunar? I think that is an old model now...  :| though.
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Post by: John.d.h on 6 July 2010, 03:16:29
Yeah.

So john...you sell these products? err... or...  :|
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You bet I do!
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Weird, found this post. I think that is the sun and moon faction... err...Solunar? I think that is an old model now...  :| though.
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Hwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!? :o It is! :confused:  Weird.
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Post by: ultifd on 6 July 2010, 03:25:32
Yeah.

So john...you sell these products? err... or...  :|
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You bet I do!
Cool I think I heard of them before... Or...something similar to the name...anyways do you make income? Or is it like what I hear, a scam...err...pyramid scam and such.  :| Maybe not...but has it actually done "wonders" for you? etc.
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Weird, found this post. I think that is the sun and moon faction... err...Solunar? I think that is an old model now...  :| though.
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Hwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!? :o It is! :confused:  Weird.
Yeah.  :confused: How is the progress though? Might as well talk about it here now that we are discussing about it I guess... [weird, maybe they grabbed a random pic  :| ]...
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Post by: Omega on 6 July 2010, 04:20:15
Happy belated birthday, my American friends!
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Any of you guys with the hot dry weather want to trade? We are having record rain falls this year (another 3.5 inches today!!!) and places are actually flooding (I swear, Yorkton is turning into an island!)...
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Post by: ElimiNator on 6 July 2010, 04:33:22
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Funny!  :O
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Post by: ultifd on 6 July 2010, 05:21:42
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Funny!  :O
From the site right? yeah  :O

Any of you guys with the hot dry weather want to trade? We are having record rain falls this year (another 3.5 inches today!!!) and places are actually flooding (I swear, Yorkton is turning into an island!)...
Not really. It isn't like we don't get that too, just at different times or less...etc.  :|
Thanks for the offer.  :O
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Post by: John.d.h on 6 July 2010, 05:40:00
Cool I think I heard of them before... Or...something similar to the name...anyways do you make income? Or is it like what I hear, a scam...err...pyramid scam and such.  :| Maybe not...but has it actually done "wonders" for you? etc.
There are a lot of people who think Amway is a pyramid scheme, but those people all either have no idea what a pyramid scheme is or have no idea how Amway actually works.  It's a legitimate company, approved by the Federal Trade Commission and a member of the Better Business Bureau.  Unfortunately, there are a lot of organizations that have latched themselves on like leeches and pretend they're part of the company but aren't (Yeah, I'm looking at you, L.T.D.), and they're usually the ones making all the false promises because they're the ones who charge membership fees.  I stay away from those groups because, well, 1.) they're dishonest, 2.) they don't really provide any information or help that I can't get for free from the company, and 3.) they're creepy as Hell!  You should see their meetings; they're like a cult. :look:  So really, most of the bad things you hear about Amway are lies, misunderstandings, and/or mislaid blame.  However, a lot of the good things you hear are too.  Sure, there are a lot of people who have become millionaires through the business, but those are a small percentage.  I make a couple hundred bucks here and there in my spare time, and considering how little time I actually put into it, the dollars:time ratio is pretty darn good.  I don't expect to ever become a millionaire at it, and I fully intend on getting a "real job" when I graduate and only continue my business in my free time (much as I do now) for extra spending money.

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Yeah.  :confused: How is the progress though? Might as well talk about it here now that we are discussing about it I guess... [weird, maybe they grabbed a random pic  :| ]...
Well, for the first faction, all the buildings are modeled and most are textured and animated, but there's still some polishing to do.  As for other units, I have five left to do before I can make a release (adding the heroes later), and some of the others need new/improved textures or animations.  Come to think of it, I haven't even started on icons or sounds.  There's definitely a lot done, but quite a bit to go before I release.  I can generally knock out an entire unit in a day if I've got several hours to kill, so any timetable just depends on what else I have going on in my life.

Any of you guys with the hot dry weather want to trade?
It's been hitting triple-digits Fahrenheit lately in my city.  You sure you want that?
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Post by: ultifd on 6 July 2010, 06:15:23
There are a lot of people who think Amway is a pyramid scheme, but those people all either have no idea what a pyramid scheme is or have no idea how Amway actually works.  It's a legitimate company, approved by the Federal Trade Commission and a member of the Better Business Bureau.  Unfortunately, there are a lot of organizations that have latched themselves on like leeches and pretend they're part of the company but aren't (Yeah, I'm looking at you, L.T.D.), and they're usually the ones making all the false promises because they're the ones who charge membership fees.  I stay away from those groups because, well, 1.) they're dishonest, 2.) they don't really provide any information or help that I can't get for free from the company, and 3.) they're creepy as Hell!  You should see their meetings; they're like a cult. :look:  So really, most of the bad things you hear about Amway are lies, misunderstandings, and/or mislaid blame.  However, a lot of the good things you hear are too.  Sure, there are a lot of people who have become millionaires through the business, but those are a small percentage.  I make a couple hundred bucks here and there in my spare time, and considering how little time I actually put into it, the dollars:time ratio is pretty darn good.  I don't expect to ever become a millionaire at it, and I fully intend on getting a "real job" when I graduate and only continue my business in my free time (much as I do now) for extra spending money.
I see...hmm...that's good for you I guess, a few extra bucks... :thumbup:
Well, I'll see. Might do some searching, or...etc.
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Well, for the first faction, all the buildings are modeled and most are textured and animated, but there's still some polishing to do.  As for other units, I have five left to do before I can make a release (adding the heroes later), and some of the others need new/improved textures or animations.  Come to think of it, I haven't even started on icons or sounds.  There's definitely a lot done, but quite a bit to go before I release.  I can generally knock out an entire unit in a day if I've got several hours to kill, so any timetable just depends on what else I have going on in my life.
I see, polishing is important. (some of your models looked good, I think, from the other thread , not sure...) 5? hmm, I think I guess we will get a release by 2011 Jan. has it been so fast?  :| which is good actually...just a prediction.   :| I think.

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Any of you guys with the hot dry weather want to trade?
It's been hitting triple-digits Fahrenheit lately in my city.  You sure you want that?
Hmm...I don't think Omega would be used to that. I would...I hope...to be ready for it.  :| ugh...
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Post by: Omega on 6 July 2010, 20:43:08
Triple digits... er, what is that in celsius?

*Googles 100F in C*
 :o :o 37 degrees?!?!?! :o :o

Er, I guess I'll take the rain. The other day though, it rained so hard for about 10 minutes that I had to pull over. Couldn't drive through the rain, since we could see only about 10 metres in front of us! :P
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Post by: ultifd on 7 July 2010, 02:33:20
Even 100 isn't that bad...compared to...other  temperatures.  :|  :O

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Er, I guess I'll take the rain. The other day though, it rained so hard for about 10 minutes that I had to pull over. Couldn't drive through the rain, since we could see only about 10 metres in front of us!  :P
  :O
There are sometimes when you just have to drive through situations like that. If it is like that, it sucks.  :look:
Dangerous and all.
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Post by: John.d.h on 7 July 2010, 02:59:19
If you think that's bad, the blacktop in Arizona gets so hot it can cause second-degree burns from brief contact (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7486363), though.  It's hot here in the Sunshine State, but not that hot.
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Post by: ultifd on 7 July 2010, 06:58:04
 :dead: Maybe.  :| Hurts at least. But it seems to been 15 years since that, still true I guess.
Now if we were near the Sun...or...or...  :|
that stuff looks awesome :o :o, I have a tank model thing but its not the same type, what the pic shows looks like an artillery vehicle, whats the shield thing :| :|, I wish that stuff had come out :( :(
I wona post my Tank and TankGarage models for Tech's.

Tank ned more work, i post later final model.

For contankt me send E-Mail taran-^-ko.if.ua

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http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/2069/tankfinal8xr.jpg

http://www.savefile.com/files/6873794
Actually from this person. But uh, that uploading service closed down. Now we could try to email...the email, but that is a last resort...  :( too bad...a lot of older models/mods were like this. Or are.
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Post by: kukac2 on 7 July 2010, 10:02:07
That tank model is quite old, there were a lot of updated versions of that (with war painting, a bit altered body, etc.). Quite a problem, that if some filesharing sites go down, these files are also lost. (poor Ka...)
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 7 July 2010, 15:24:07
I hate not being on for a while and people post so much anyways now i need to read and catch up...

How Offtopic Thread was born: A long long time ago, in a forum board far far away, we got offtopic, I was having windows troubles, and posted a few humourous comics for it, which later was split off and moved to general discussion, where it was renamed to Off Topic. When I created the offtopic board, I moved it here and renamed it Off Topic - Main. Wow, history is cool!
AWESOME!... but this was ontopic being you were talking about offtopic on the offtopic board so it wasn't offtopic lol   :P

Does anybody care that it's Independence Day here in the States?
I do... I saw awesome fireworks... well on the 3rd and took really great pics of it maybee once i upload them maybe in 2 weeks I'll show them to you
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 7 July 2010, 15:41:42
Yay! It's the 4th-a July!!!

I just have to tease you guys......... :P
The Portland fireworks were practically the best in the US, we had our awesome city symphony orchestra play lots of American classical themes!

At the end all you could see was a huge mass of colorful fireworks. :o
Actually to be honest Connecticut's fireworks anywhere suck well most places depends were you go you get desent ones.. this years like last year I was at near a miltiariry place those were pretty good.. maybe one of the best i seen. My mom said the best she seen was when she was pregnate with me they were so loud I kept kicking her lol

Hmm, with AC you are either choosing to help yourself and kinda hurt the earth, or the opposite...Even if there is no global warming, I don't really want to discuss about that, because some people can't handle it, it doesn't bring good either...etc.
But yeah, it is kinda hot sometimes. Not everywhere though.
Every year it is getting hotter or colder at places. I wonder why.
I can say alot of things about this topic but im not gonna get started....

Happy belated birthday, my American friends!
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Any of you guys with the hot dry weather want to trade? We are having record rain falls this year (another 3.5 inches today!!!) and places are actually flooding (I swear, Yorkton is turning into an island!)...
I would prefere rain over hot.. plus i like cold over hot. Hmmm Omega where do you live anyways... We have okay weather its been around 95 F for about 3 days in a row the most was 112 F but that was in my car with the windows and doors shut
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Post by: wyvern on 7 July 2010, 15:43:58
112 :o :o, the most we've had was 105, tough that was in general, not in a baking car
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 7 July 2010, 16:03:37
112 :o :o, the most we've had was 105, tough that was in general, not in a baking car
it was a white car too hmm i feel sorry for any black cars they would have been so much hotter. we also had plastic bottles in the car... I was suprised it didn't melt cause we forgot to bring them inside... I been lucky I don't have to deal with the heat that much cause i been staying inside in the nice cool AC and I like it that way. I only go outside at the end of the day like 6 or 7 o' clock P.M. and when i do I mostly just run around play frisbee or skateboard.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 7 July 2010, 18:23:29
112 degrees?! OUCH!!! :o

You can skateboard? Cool.
I can't.......at all. I tried learning but I couldn't even stand on the thing long enough for my friend to start telling me what to do....... :-X :-[
I'm into basketball and throwing games, like long range pass in a huge parking lot. I also like weaponry, I have a sword, two shields, a quickly snatched up wooden spear, and two high-power bb-guns, and my Dad was dumb enough to shoot his camera with the more powerful one. :P

What do you guys do for sports and stuff?
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Post by: wyvern on 7 July 2010, 18:35:15
Gymnastics, I'm taking up archery, airsoft, hiking, hobbies include, strategy gaming(computer and board), computer modelling, flames of war ww2 modelling, and plastic aircraft modelling(I'm working on a night fighter me 262 and have a Lancaster bomber that I need to finish), and I love history, especially war history ;D ;D
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Post by: ultifd on 7 July 2010, 18:52:52
That tank model is quite old, there were a lot of updated versions of that (with war painting, a bit altered body, etc.). Quite a problem, that if some filesharing sites go down, these files are also lost. (poor Ka...)
Yes. We need backup for everything now.  :)  :(  :|
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Post by: wyvern on 7 July 2010, 19:24:22
Well I've seen several additions that I could never download, one was a helicopter addition to the aerodrome somewhere
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Post by: -Archmage- on 7 July 2010, 19:32:58
I wanna take archery too! :D :D :D :D :D
But I'm gonna have to wait until Christmas or somethin'........ :|

What a coincidence, I like CGI modeling too!
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Post by: wyvern on 7 July 2010, 19:40:18
I wanna take archery too! :D :D :D :D :D
But I'm gonna have to wait until Christmas or somethin'........ :|

What a coincidence, I like CGI modeling too!
well the modelling parts not much of a surprise since you work on glest, though I'm experimenting with other games and trying to make a short film, archeries been fun so far, not to mention that you can go to one of the clubs nearby and shoot for free as long as you have equipment and pay for the target(1$ or so ;D ;D)
modelling plastic models is fun too, as is having airsoft fights against friends
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Post by: kukac2 on 7 July 2010, 19:46:07
Ok, I know that erasmusw is a bit unpleasant, however, there are currently 3 active mods, so don't worry. We have to wait for one of the admins, and there is no reason to report him anymore, neither post into his topics, as they are getting deleted :) And I don't think that it is a bot.
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Post by: wyvern on 7 July 2010, 19:47:42
Ok, I know that erasmusw is a bit unpleasant, however, there are currently 3 active mods, so don't worry. We have to wait for one of the admins, and there is no reason to report him anymore, neither post into his topics, as they are getting deleted :) And I don't think that it is a bot.
Ok thanks to all the moderators, still it would be nice to see him eliminated, [Ask Eliminator 8) - @kukac@] why don't you think its a bot

hehe why'd you change my post :O :O :O

[Why do you care btw? It was just a 2 words pun ;) - @kukac@]
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Post by: ultifd on 7 July 2010, 19:48:46
Is a bot you mean.  :| Just search the nicknames...
Hmm, AKA wait for Omega. So Omega, please just install those mods, at least that should help.  :|
Ugh...no point to reporting to mods anymore.
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Post by: kukac2 on 7 July 2010, 19:55:59
Why he isn't a bot?

He registered at the morning (when I was online), and I checked his profile immediately. Perfectly clear. Later he updated his homepage, and since then I knew he was a spammer. He constantly sent his spam for the whole day, but it takes him about 5-10 minutes to post a topic (not the time interval between new topics!) (heroes of copy and paste).
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Post by: ultifd on 7 July 2010, 19:56:58
Maybe, anyways...
test this:
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OMG, Fun.  :O
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 7 July 2010, 20:26:06
Why he isn't a bot?

He registered at the morning (when I was online), and I checked his profile immediately. Perfectly clear. Later he updated his homepage, and since then I knew he was a spammer. He constantly sent his spam for the whole day, but it takes him about 5-10 minutes to post a topic (not the time interval between new topics!) (heroes of copy and paste).

yah i saw that
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Post by: ElimiNator on 7 July 2010, 21:04:34
I saw that quite a wile back, funny.  :O
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Post by: Omega on 7 July 2010, 23:51:19
Er, me confused... I think I totally missed something... :(

Is a bot you mean.  :| Just search the nicknames...
Hmm, AKA wait for Omega. So Omega, please just install those mods, at least that should help.  :|
Ugh...no point to reporting to mods anymore.
What mods? Yeah, definately missed something....

Hmmm Omega where do you live anyways...
Oh Canada,
Our home and native land!
True patriot love,
In all our sons command!

Need I say more? ;)
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Post by: wyvern on 8 July 2010, 01:24:44
That was funny Ultifd ;D ;D :O :O :O
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Post by: ultifd on 8 July 2010, 01:27:34
Go Canada!  :O  :thumbup:
Yes, Red Button is funny.  :O
What mods? Yeah, definately missed something....
Hmm, SMF Mods. Check the Board Changes topic.  :|
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 8 July 2010, 13:37:46
Maybe, anyways...
test this:
http://www.85qm.de/up/BigRedButton.swf
OMG, Fun.  :O
lol that can keep you entertained for hours

Oh Canada,
Our home and native land!
True patriot love,
In all our sons command!
Um... ok. Canada was enough for you to say. Well thats cool I always wanted to live there.
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Post by: Gabbe on 11 July 2010, 14:05:09
whats so special about Canada? I dont think i`ll go there, its like almost the same as Norway... ::)
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Post by: kukac2 on 11 July 2010, 14:10:13
It has the largest coast. And it was in the WW2.
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Post by: Gabbe on 11 July 2010, 14:15:05
Respect for the long beach  :thumbup: :O WWII?...it was like...the whole world in it?
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Post by: kukac2 on 11 July 2010, 15:19:20
Peru wasn't for example :O
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Post by: -Archmage- on 11 July 2010, 15:41:10
Canada in WWII, wow never knew that. :P
Norway was involved too so why exactly is Canada getting credit for WWII and Norway isn't? :|
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Post by: kukac2 on 11 July 2010, 16:58:04
There were a lot of "noname" countries involved in WW2, Bhutan, Nepal :look: , but the funny thing is, that the gigantic Canada has about the same fame, as these countries :confused:
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Post by: Gabbe on 11 July 2010, 17:39:04
sorry, i`ve never heard of Canada and WWII together before...no offence, it is just that...i have never heard...
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Post by: -Archmage- on 11 July 2010, 17:54:21
Does Canada even have a military? :look:
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Post by: Gabbe on 11 July 2010, 17:56:14
Seriously arch...obviously they have lol :) even our 5 million pop got it.
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Post by: wyvern on 11 July 2010, 18:48:59
Canadians are famous for WW2 for several reasons not least because they had some of the best soldiers, except for maybe Australian and elite units in England Germany and US, and they took part in several disasterous or heroic actions, the raid on Dieppe was mostly Canadian and though it failed the Canadians showed great courage, during D-day they got a whole beach to capture and they captured the most ground on the first day June 6th I do believe that they also took part in the raids on the heavy water factories in Norway, and they succeeded to a limited degree though they never permanently put the stuff out of action. The heavy water was being used for atomic research by the Nazis so thats why it was important to take the factory out, Nepal, Bhutan, and many other nations "fought" but very few of them got involved in the fighting, with most countries sending a couple of troops or airplanes to show that they fought, Norway got conquered because of bad allied leadership, In my opinion, I think the most heroism goes to Poland and Finland because Poland lasted a whole month against two of the most powerful armies in the world at the time, Soviet Union and Germany, and Finland because with an army of about 200,000 little if any artillery and tanks, held off the Soviets for half a year before being defeated, worst fighting for major involved countries is probably France and Italy, France collapsed in a month against just Germany, and Italy surrendered before ever being invaded not to mention that int 1940-1941 the British beat a 200,000 strong Italian army with about Oh 30,000 troops, sorry for the long post but I just felt like giving my opinion.
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Post by: kukac2 on 11 July 2010, 19:39:11
Yet, still no one knows that Canada even participated in the war :O
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Post by: wyvern on 11 July 2010, 19:48:22
Yes they do, at least me and Omega do  :O :O, Plus Canada played a large role in WW1
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Post by: Gabbe on 11 July 2010, 19:59:32
uhm...Wyvern....don`t become a teacher, the pupils are gonna get too much to listen to and read...and yeah, homeowkr...you know :P JK (that JK means joking :P)

Finland?!?!?!? you can`t be serious? As far as I know, russians were not even equipped with guns, Russia was the country loosing the most people, no contest, hands down. Defending Finland would be quite easy against such an army, it was after the british and US pumped tanks and equipment north of Nazi-Norway over to Russia that they got proper tools, and that was when they were enemies with Germany, Italy? yeah, they sucked big and hard all the war...You know, The reason Norway was occupied is not just one reason, it is many, and trust me, we could probably not stand a chance anyways, Nazi germany wanted a new frontier against GB and guess what GB was trying to stop? GB planned to invade Norway aswell, thank god they didn`t do it and we were on the winning side :) I`ve read in our new schoolbooks (2010) that 8/10 of the actions against heavy water in Norway was done by the opposition force in Norway, and the opposition force in Norway were supported by elite soldiers from GB. And yeah, one more reason, we had a dickhead that was leading in Norwegian politics that WANTED Norway to get occupied, due to Nazi motives, he was hanged and stuff afterwards (quisling?) Well, We`ve never got a good politics anyways...the only reason we are not a country under development (?) is because we are lucky with our oil, did you know we got Uran/Uranium in our whole mountain range? Geologists speculate if there is enough to give Scandinavia and Iceland, Greenland and parts of UK power/energy, and then the dumb politicians won`t even build mroe than ONE nuclear powerplant, and the one we got is for science purpose only...

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Post by: wyvern on 11 July 2010, 21:13:03
Incorrect about Russia, the only thing Russia lacked was good leadership and organization, when they invaded Finland They had the average equipment for the time, had they been as well led and organized as the Finns they might have done a lot better, Second of all when the Germans attacked the Russians once again collapsed through organization and leadership not equipment, they also had the finest tanks in the world at the time T34 and KV1, and the few of these tanks that initially saw action caused havoc, they also moved all of their industries East with some amazing organization, At the end of the war they had the best heavy tank in the world IS-2 and IS-3, I could talk more but no one would read it, the Nazis screwed up when they invaded Norway because prior to their invasion Norway was actually a kinda fascist country, also a lot of the raids against heavy water were conducted by Norwegian resistance combined with British or Canadian commandos. As I said I can say more if anyone wants to listen
Quisling was a dirty traitor and got what he deserved by the way. >:(
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Post by: kukac2 on 12 July 2010, 08:05:15
North-Europe is totally missing from the Hungarian history books (only vikings and WW2 are mentioned)...
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Post by: Gabbe on 12 July 2010, 09:32:39
Wyvern, I`ve read that the russians was the country with the most losses (millions) due to lack of equipment, aswell as  :look: I know, they lack leadership and morale too, (Stalin executed everyone?) Tanks in WWII weren`t so good, sometimes the grenades shot wouldn`t even explode :P I read your block wyvern, it is interesting!

Kukac, I can give you a quick breif, Sweden? got their fame when they had Norway in a union, same with Denmark, Norway? got their fame probably in the Viking era, maybe in WWII, im not sure. Denmark also should have some respect for the viki9ng era, they were the most brutal of the vikings, still, Norway isn`t far behind (this is getting a little scary, do not read further if you are scared) When a Norwegian "king" captured the whole Scotland and huge parts of England, and he also captured a english king, now it gets bloody. The english king had previously killed the viking "king"s father, so the viking "king" took revenge, blood eagle, they called it. They first torn up the chest so the bones show, at this time, you are still alive, then they take the knife and rip your lungs in two and put them on top of the ribs, then you look like an eagle. then they hanged the english king up so everyone could see him.
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Post by: wyvern on 12 July 2010, 13:47:00
Bleach and yes the russians lacked equipment but this was mostly early was after they suffered devastating losses and were desperately short of war material for something on this look at the movie Enemy at the Gates, later in the though they had okay infantry equipment, mediocre aircraft, okay light and medium tanks and amazing heavy tanks in fact the IS-2 weighed less then a panther and had a heavier gun and more armour, also most russian equipment was far more durable then other countries equipment, initially they did lack equipment but I think the reasons for this were mostly the fact that the factories had to be moved east to safety and before they were set up again the troops had to do with what they had, at any rate tanks and artillery aren't neccessary for victory when you have the terrain, will and organiztion the Finns in WW2 for example
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Post by: -Archmage- on 12 July 2010, 16:01:15
And now our weaponry is so sophisticated that we can put a missile down someones chimney on the other side of the world. :P
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Post by: wyvern on 12 July 2010, 16:41:40
Maybe I'm not sure if its that accurate though :| :|
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Post by: -Archmage- on 12 July 2010, 17:04:12
Maybe I'm not sure if its that accurate though :| :|

I trust you on history, not modern American weaponry. :|
My Dad's an Air Force Veteran, and my Mom's boyfriend is an Army veteran.
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Post by: wyvern on 12 July 2010, 17:11:10
Impressive :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:, my great great grandfather was an imperial russian general but I'm not from much of a military family :O, I admit my modern equipment knowledge is poor in the area of missiles and infantry weapons, but I still have good knowledge of aircraft and tanks, whatever time period :) :)
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Post by: Omega on 12 July 2010, 20:19:39
In WW2, over a million canadians fought, which might seem small for our southern counter-parts, but with a population of x million at that time, that was quite a lot. Canada also helped spearhead D-Day.

In WW1, they played a crucial part in the 100 days battle.

In both world wars, they joined the conflict BEFORE USA.
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Post by: Gabbe on 12 July 2010, 23:14:05
I know that US always come into the war AFTER the other countries have gotten their hands dirty, too bad president wanted war with iraq...for some reason...

EDIT: archmage, thats actually negative, and still, the US can make the world unlivable 2000 times, same can Iran, India, China, Mexico, Russia, Japan and a lot of other countries, if there ever will be a war, there will be only the ones starting it being the losers, dragging everyone else with them...
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Post by: wyvern on 13 July 2010, 01:44:38
The US just come when its forced to such as WW1 or WW2 or unwanted like in Iraq/Afghanistan
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Post by: Gabbe on 13 July 2010, 01:51:51
The US just come when its forced to such as WW1 or WW2 or unwanted like in Iraq/Afghanistan

mhm, maybe in the WWs, in the middle east, that was purely bush work...like you can`t call germans nazis because of hitler..
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Post by: wyvern on 13 July 2010, 01:59:29
Exactly I said when unwanted, but I wouldn't all blame bush though he was a dumb*** he did not really cause the afghanistan war that is the problem right now, that was a small US force that Obamas increasing for some stupid reason its as if Obama hasn't realized that afghanistan will never be conquered, just look to history, brits in the 19th century russians in 1980.
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Post by: John.d.h on 13 July 2010, 02:43:59
Check out that SWEET bandwidth!
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs056.snc4/35178_406180672831_501807831_4419874_7572359_n.jpg)
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Post by: ultifd on 13 July 2010, 02:47:43
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Check owt mai blayyyzzin fast intarwebz, you guize!
Awesome.  :o
You rule...you aren't serious though, right?
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Post by: Omega on 13 July 2010, 04:10:21
Isn't it odd what happens to downloads sometimes? I've seen downloads creep by at a couple of bytes before, but I've also seen one jump up to 2MB/s (though that was obviously wrong, since my net could never handle such a speed). Likewise, I once saw a 80kb/s on a dialup (56kbps) modem... Oddities upon oddities...
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Post by: ultifd on 13 July 2010, 04:41:04
Yeah, it usually is. Sometimes very weird...
But we all know the limit of our connections... good thing for Glest you don't need a great connection...a basic one is good enough...since it also depends on others...

That isn't the normal speed though...right John?  :|
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Post by: John.d.h on 13 July 2010, 04:46:59
That isn't the normal speed though...right John?  :|
If it were, I'd be able to post maybe once a week if I was lucky. ;)
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Post by: -Archmage- on 13 July 2010, 11:57:28
A note about the war in the middle-east: We're fighting the Taliban, not the Iraqi'. :|



Wow, John! That's unbelievable speed! :o

That isn't the normal speed though...right John?  :|
If it were, I'd be able to post maybe once a week if I was lucky. ;)

 :O



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Where's this a quote from.......... :look:
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Post by: Gabbe on 13 July 2010, 12:08:09
before glest, i had a suckish internet, and i managed to download blender at 2KB sec...at my grandmas...

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A note about the war in the middle-east: We're fighting the Taliban, not the Iraqi'. No Opinion

Guess who used to rule the middle-east?
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Post by: -Archmage- on 13 July 2010, 12:21:24
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A note about the war in the middle-east: We're fighting the Taliban, not the Iraqi'. No Opinion

Guess who used to rule the middle-east?

Sadam Hussein, he's a terrorist. ::)
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 13 July 2010, 13:58:17
Canadians are famous for WW2 for several reasons not least because they had some of the best soldiers, except for maybe Australian and elite units in England Germany and US, and they took part in several disasterous or heroic actions, the raid on Dieppe was mostly Canadian and though it failed the Canadians showed great courage, during D-day they got a whole beach to capture and they captured the most ground on the first day June 6th I do believe that they also took part in the raids on the heavy water factories in Norway, and they succeeded to a limited degree though they never permanently put the stuff out of action. The heavy water was being used for atomic research by the Nazis so thats why it was important to take the factory out, Nepal, Bhutan, and many other nations "fought" but very few of them got involved in the fighting, with most countries sending a couple of troops or airplanes to show that they fought, Norway got conquered because of bad allied leadership, In my opinion, I think the most heroism goes to Poland and Finland because Poland lasted a whole month against two of the most powerful armies in the world at the time, Soviet Union and Germany, and Finland because with an army of about 200,000 little if any artillery and tanks, held off the Soviets for half a year before being defeated, worst fighting for major involved countries is probably France and Italy, France collapsed in a month against just Germany, and Italy surrendered before ever being invaded not to mention that int 1940-1941 the British beat a 200,000 strong Italian army with about Oh 30,000 troops, sorry for the long post but I just felt like giving my opinion.
Brain overload.. on this topic  :bomb:

The US just come when its forced to such as WW1 or WW2 or unwanted like in Iraq/Afghanistan

mhm, maybe in the WWs, in the middle east, that was purely bush work...like you can`t call germans nazis because of hitler..
  :dead:
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Post by: wyvern on 13 July 2010, 14:03:13
Haha killed your brain did I :scientist: :scientist: :scientist: :scientist:
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Post by: Gabbe on 13 July 2010, 15:42:44
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Brain overload.. on this topic  Bomb

How old are you? This is the kind of thing every teacher tells us in history class/ society class?
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Post by: John.d.h on 13 July 2010, 15:46:05
History classes in the USA are a sad joke.

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Where's this a quote from.......... :look:
That's what my post originally said.  Even though I used that spelling as a joke, I didn't want to set a bad precedent, so I went back and edited it. ;D
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Post by: wyvern on 13 July 2010, 16:00:39
The first one with the messed up wording seems funnier.
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Post by: ultifd on 13 July 2010, 18:13:23
Yeah, second one is more appropriate though...and what John said.  :|

That isn't the normal speed though...right John?  :|
If it were, I'd be able to post maybe once a week if I was lucky. ;)
K, was just wondering.  :O
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Post by: Gabbe on 14 July 2010, 09:42:30
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History classes in the USA are a sad joke.

What is so bad about them? they teach the wrong things?
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 14 July 2010, 14:01:09
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Brain overload.. on this topic  Bomb

How old are you? This is the kind of thing every teacher tells us in history class/ society class?
I'm 14. I'm just horrible at history and it bores me. Plus I hate reading very long wording. But I already learned a bit about WWI AND WWII but forgot most stuff about it.
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Post by: wyvern on 14 July 2010, 14:12:35
Forgot, :o :o :o I think the World wars are the best subjects.
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Post by: ultifd on 14 July 2010, 18:54:27
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History classes in the USA are a sad joke.
What is so bad about them? they teach the wrong things?
Nah, just that you can learn more with other ways...or so I hear.
Some...not all. Most of them, usually.
Maybe other reasons too...
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Post by: wyvern on 14 July 2010, 18:57:31
Yes its true that US history classes stink I know more about history then my history teacher ::) ::) ::), all they teach us properly is about martin luther king, abe lincoln, and christopher columbus. All the other stuff even if its world history gets very poor attention. :| :|
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Post by: Gabbe on 15 July 2010, 01:21:21
For me, medieval would probably qualify to be the funnier subject, BTW, did you know norway got the dumbest pupils? So i hear...

Here is the crap we have to learn:

Christian knowledge and religious and ethical education
Norwegian
Mathematics
Social Studies
Art and Crafts
Science and the Environment
English (is compulsory from the primary level)
Music
Home Economics
Physical Education
Compulsory additional subjects

OH btw, did you know that nearly all our politicians have NO EDUCATION AT ALL, and with 15 "parties" to choose...it is too much, compare like this:

US: 200 million, 3 parties
NO: 5 million, 15 parties...
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Post by: wyvern on 15 July 2010, 01:43:08
For me, medieval would probably qualify to be the funnier subject, BTW, did you know norway got the dumbest pupils? So i hear...

Here is the crap we have to learn:

Christian knowledge and religious and ethical education
Norwegian
Mathematics
Social Studies
Art and Crafts
Science and the Environment
English (is compulsory from the primary level)
Music
Home Economics
Physical Education
Compulsory additional subjects

OH btw, did you know that nearly all our politicians have NO EDUCATION AT ALL, and with 15 "parties" to choose...it is too much, compare like this:

US: 200 million, 3 parties
NO: 5 million, 15 parties...
Hahaha why do you have so many political parties
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Post by: John.d.h on 15 July 2010, 01:44:25
English (is compulsory from the primary level)
You know what's dumb about American schools?  We have to take a foreign language in high school.  You know, once our brains are past the stage where we can actually learn new languages.  Simply idiotic.
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US: 200 million, 3 parties
NO: 5 million, 15 parties...
While we technically have a bunch of political parties in the USA, only two of them really matter.  Occasionally an independent will get elected to an office, but there hasn't been any presidential race where an independent has had any real chance of winning.
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Post by: Omega on 15 July 2010, 02:46:27
Forgot, :o :o :o I think the World wars are the best subjects.
I agree! Unfortunately, my class doesn't do the World Wars in history until next year, but I'm way ahead of that. Thanks to wikipedia, I learned that long ago! ;D

History *is* my favorite subject, though in my school, its called Social Studies, and often groups in things like Politics, Economics, and pre-history. Medieval was also quite fun. I always found the roman empire fascinating!
US: 200 million, 3 parties
NO: 5 million, 15 parties...
IMO, more political parties can be better, as it gives more choices, however, that would make electing a leader harder, and getting a majority government (which I consider a good thing) much harder (assuming, of course, the norway is like Canada in electing a leader, where the leader of the party with the most elected representives becomes Prime Minister (even if he didn't win his riding, though I've never seen that happen)).

Canada has three major parties, the Conservatives (my favorite), the Liberals (Boo), and the NDP (never won an election). There's also about a dozen smaller parties that don't even have a seat, and somehow, a joke party, the Marijuana Party tries for a seat (but naturally never even comes close)...

Wow John, you have to learn a language? That sucks... I had to "learn" french up until grade 6, but then no more (yay, I hate french. At the moment, I am limited to "Bonjour")! Unfortunately, I have a feeling I'll have to take it in University to become an elementary teacher........



In other news, I passed my road test today! Yes! Freedom starts now! :D :D :D
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Post by: John.d.h on 15 July 2010, 03:14:40
Yeah, we're required to take 2 years of a foreign language in high school, and I'm having to take two semesters again in college as a graduation requirement.  That's a bit of a pet peeve of mine: I'm getting a degree in Communications, and I've already taken all of the communication-related courses I need, so why do I have to stick around and take more classes that have nothing to do with my field?  I can understand needing to take Spanish, since that language is a requirement for communicating in this part of the country, but they're making me take extra classes just to fill a quota for total credit hours.  I could take ballroom dancing, for crying out loud! >:(
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Post by: ultifd on 15 July 2010, 05:13:44
Thanks to wikipedia, I learned that long ago! ;D
Well, I do hope you check your sources.  :O

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Gratz.
Yeah, we're required to take 2 years of a foreign language in high school, and I'm having to take two semesters again in college as a graduation requirement.  That's a bit of a pet peeve of mine: I'm getting a degree in Communications, and I've already taken all of the communication-related courses I need, so why do I have to stick around and take more classes that have nothing to do with my field?  I can understand needing to take Spanish, since that language is a requirement for communicating in this part of the country, but they're making me take extra classes just to fill a quota for total credit hours.  I could take ballroom dancing, for crying out loud! >:(
Yeah, it is annoying...but at least people get something out of it...usually.
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Post by: wyvern on 15 July 2010, 13:24:10
Yeah, we're required to take 2 years of a foreign language in high school, and I'm having to take two semesters again in college as a graduation requirement.  That's a bit of a pet peeve of mine: I'm getting a degree in Communications, and I've already taken all of the communication-related courses I need, so why do I have to stick around and take more classes that have nothing to do with my field?  I can understand needing to take Spanish, since that language is a requirement for communicating in this part of the country, but they're making me take extra classes just to fill a quota for total credit hours.  I could take ballroom dancing, for crying out loud! >:(
LOL :O :O, maybe ballet :D :D

Omega if you go wikipedia you have to check your sources, though from what I checked occasionally its all correct and thats where I get lots of my history inf too. I liked the crusades and hundred years war in the middle ages but my stupid school gives you a quarter of middle ages, a quarter of rennaisance, a quarter of religious change(sucked ::) ::) ) and a quarter of explorers, pretty much everything you wanna learn is on your own :|
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 15 July 2010, 13:33:52
English (is compulsory from the primary level)
You know what's dumb about American schools?  We have to take a foreign language in high school.  You know, once our brains are past the stage where we can actually learn new languages.  Simply idiotic.
If you think thats stupid I started learned a different language (spanish) in 7th grade and  have to all the way up to my last year in high school. I hate that it would have been easier to learn as a little kid but nooooo they have to torture people. I'm horrible at spanish too I don''t get it....
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Post by: -Archmage- on 15 July 2010, 14:03:35
Schools=*Puke* Let's not talk about schools.......

What do you guys think about guns and gun laws?
About war and peace?
What to do with the army and budget?

Not necessarily all of those issues, those are just things I think would be interesting to discuss.
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Post by: wyvern on 15 July 2010, 14:11:31
Guns should definitely stay legal, war is the partially the only way to maintain peace, the army shouldn't be limited by the budget(were gonna stop making f-22's because of the stinkin budget ::) ::)
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Post by: -Archmage- on 15 July 2010, 14:38:25
Guns should definitely stay legal, war is the partially the only way to maintain peace, the army shouldn't be limited by the budget(were gonna stop making f-22's because of the stinkin budget ::) ::)

Agreed.
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Post by: ElimiNator on 15 July 2010, 15:25:06
Guns are way eseyer to get and are cheaper in the USA, in Canada you need to get this huge license and they are quite expensive.
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Post by: wyvern on 15 July 2010, 15:27:33
Guns are way eseyer to get and are cheaper in the USA, in Canada you need to get this huge license and they are quite expensive.
i don't know its probably true. :)
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Post by: Gabbe on 15 July 2010, 16:15:16
I don`t have any need to carry guns  ::) I can understand why in E.X the US and countries with problems with crime. War? Obviously the army MUST get what it needs, no defence = union/occupied, like what happened to Norway, hate those swedish and danish bstrds...Just one thing, how in the bloody hell isn`t Irans nuclear stuff destroyed yet?
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Post by: wyvern on 15 July 2010, 16:17:18
Cuz most western countries are cowardly democracies and so's the US, noone wants to do anything about it and are too scared, when Israel even threatens to do anything they get yelled at, noones gonna do a thing cuz they're too scared
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Post by: Gabbe on 15 July 2010, 16:55:56
Well, Democracy is a good thing...Still, US and UK should do something about the problem...
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Post by: wyvern on 15 July 2010, 16:56:43
Democracy is good but now everyones too scared to do something about Iran
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Post by: Gabbe on 15 July 2010, 17:00:24
Every politician is scared to loose votes from peace-hippies...
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 15 July 2010, 17:01:56
Guns should definitely stay legal, war is the partially the only way to maintain peace, the army shouldn't be limited by the budget(were gonna stop making f-22's because of the stinkin budget ::) ::)
Your opions are complete oppisite to mine. I think guns should be ILLEGAL to common people. Only millitary and hunter should be able to use them but i think they should make it harder to become a official hunter cause they killing animals. But i think guns should be illegal to common people because there is no reason to own a gun even for protection people use them in the wrong way and used in so many crimes its too easy to get a gun and kill someone.. tsk tsk tsk

And with war yes its a good way to make peace but there are so many other efficiant ways its just the human heart is dark and think killing is good. Like Martin luther king jk he has peacful protects but the whites were angry and didn't like it so they did it violently
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Post by: wyvern on 15 July 2010, 17:06:39
Hm but do you think hitler would have listened to peaceful protest, second of all the right to own a gun was in my opinion based on that if the population is armed and a tyrant comes to power they can dispose of him, killing may not be good but if people hadn't fought in ww2 europe would all be germany :P :P ::) ::)
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Post by: kukac2 on 15 July 2010, 17:21:10
Hitler was democratically elected. People sacrificed their freedom for their welfare. Only the _stupid_ USAkians think that democracy can solve everything, since they have enough money, to fill in the holes caused by the mistakes. Easterner countries can't afford it. Yet, USA forcefully makes a democratic government everywhere.
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Post by: wyvern on 15 July 2010, 17:23:30
Very true and they don't want democracy but if they threaten us it has to be solved does it not, second of all hitler was made chancellor by Hindenburg not by popular election :P
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Post by: Gabbe on 15 July 2010, 17:27:51
I don`t think I can afford a leader for my country, not choosen with democracy... (WWII and WWI is a great example on why...)
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Post by: wyvern on 15 July 2010, 17:31:48
I don't either though sometimes it seems that a good dictator is better then a bad democracy, after all several dictators did good for their country
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Post by: kukac2 on 15 July 2010, 18:11:12
Several thousand. Think of the empires, kingdoms, and everything that was in the world. Were kings chosen by election? Yet, we read about a lot of them were doing good things. Dictatorship is not necessarily evil, that's just what the barbarian USAkian tribes are thinking :)
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Post by: wyvern on 15 July 2010, 18:16:48
Shut up about us being barbarians and I said myself that dictatorship doesn't have to be bad, I hate to point this out but in 1932 germany was in the state of collapse then Hitler came to power and put people to work making weapons, five years later Germany had pretty much recovered and was one of the most powerful nations in europe and definitely doing the best economically, its depessing :( but very very true ::) ::)
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Post by: kukac2 on 15 July 2010, 18:18:55
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Shut up about us being barbarians

The dramaturgy of the thing has fallen because of that smiley :P
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Post by: wyvern on 15 July 2010, 18:20:30
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Shut up about us being barbarians

The dramaturgy of the thing has fallen because of that smiley :P
Whatever ::)
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Post by: Gabbe on 15 July 2010, 18:47:43
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You ahve two options, inferior or a noble savage :P
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Post by: kukac2 on 15 July 2010, 18:58:37
So Gabbe, how the Germanic barbarians are doing nowadays? :D
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Post by: wyvern on 15 July 2010, 18:59:32
very well actually :D
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Post by: Gabbe on 15 July 2010, 19:01:42
Fjandur plundered some treasure along the coast of england some days ago, all is fine  :O :O :P
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Post by: wyvern on 15 July 2010, 19:03:00
yes but he had to pay taxes on the stolen items because it was coming out of country
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Post by: John.d.h on 15 July 2010, 19:05:42
If I can't defend myself, then who is going to defend me?  If the government takes away our ability to defend ourselves, then they assume full responsibility for doing it.  If I can't own a gun, then they'd better have a policeman stationed at my front door.  Also, take a look at some of the countries that don't let regular citizens own guns, and look at their crime rates.  Some of them, like Britain, have significantly more violent crime.  In Switzerland on the other hand, gun ownership is very common, and they have very little violent crime.  The reason for this is actually pretty simple if you think about it.  Who's going to break into my house if they know I might keep a loaded shotgun in my closet?  When everyone is armed, attacking another person becomes an almost suicidal proposition.
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Post by: wyvern on 15 July 2010, 19:08:27
Thankk you John I agree completely, and from what I've heard nearly everyone in switzerland owns a gun, some people think its part of the reason why the germans didn't invade in ww2, because everyone was armed and technology won't help much in mountains.
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Post by: Omega on 15 July 2010, 19:08:38
The ability to get guns in Canada actually often depends on the type. A hunting rifle is easier to get and has less restrictions, but if you have a handgun, it has a large number of restrictions and you'd have to notify the RCMP every time you take it somewhere, even if just to go to a shooting range.

I support the right to bear arms. I agree with John.



I should mention I'm leaving for a bit, and will be back in about a week. Don't cause too much trouble! :O
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Post by: wyvern on 15 July 2010, 19:11:09
Don't worry we won't


People, Omegas gone finally we can spam unhindered ;D ;D
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Post by: Gabbe on 15 July 2010, 19:12:50
But, john, in the US, a lot of people can`t make a living = forcing them to steal, then i wouldn`t reccomend everyone having guns with them..


muahahahahhahah, bye bye omega, i shall not spam (only just  a little tiny huge massive bit)
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Post by: ultifd on 15 July 2010, 19:13:34
I should mention I'm leaving for a bit, and will be back in about a week. Don't cause too much trouble! :O
Alright. I also hope there won't be too much trouble too.  :O
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Post by: wyvern on 15 July 2010, 19:21:00
why worry we have moderators for a reason ::)(to keep Gabbe from spamming)
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Post by: John.d.h on 15 July 2010, 19:21:26
The ability to get guns in Canada actually often depends on the type. A hunting rifle is easier to get and has less restrictions, but if you have a handgun, it has a large number of restrictions and you'd have to notify the RCMP every time you take it somewhere, even if just to go to a shooting range.
Our laws differ depending on the type of gun as well, and they vary depending on the state.  Florida is fairly free when it comes to guns, and Texas is famous for being trigger-happy.  California is the opposite (which should be no surprise to anyone who knows American politics), with ridiculous gun control laws that are apparently arbitrary.  For example, they have a so-called "assault weapon" ban that keeps you from owning a rifle that has a pistol grip, collapsible stock, or bayonet lugs.  Obviously, none of these things have anything to do whatsoever with a gun's lethality, but they're often found on military-style rifles.
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I should mention I'm leaving for a bit, and will be back in about a week. Don't cause too much trouble! :O
Wahahahaha! :scientist:

But, john, in the US, a lot of people can`t make a living = forcing them to steal, then i wouldn`t reccomend everyone having guns with them..
That's exactly why we do need guns.  How desperate do you need to be before getting one of these put through your head seems like a worthwhile risk to get your drug money?

(http://images.outdoorpros.com/images/prod/5/United-Cutlery-UC0181R-rw-27308-8547.jpg)

On an unrelated note, has anybody tried GNOME 3 yet?  I've seen some previews for it and I just didn't get the point.  It seemed... weird, and not really helpful.
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Post by: wyvern on 15 July 2010, 19:29:46
Weapons are good and you need special papers to get an automatic gun in Delaware the laws are OK about guns, I think that technically if you had the money and papers for an automatic gun you could drive around in an armored car(I wish I could) ;D ;D
I haven't tried Gnome 3 yet
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Post by: -Archmage- on 15 July 2010, 19:40:06
About making guns illegal: That would send crime rates up! NEWSFLASH: CRIMINALS DON'T FOLLOW THE LAW, WHY DO YOU THINK WE CALL THEM CRIMINALS? What's to stop criminals from committing all sorts of crimes, they know that no one can stop them if no one is armed!

Dictatorship vs Democracy: Dictatorship only works if you have a good leader, if you have a bad one, you're screwed. Democracy works very well until some idiot(like Obama) get's elected and breaks the rules.

Military vs other forms of peace keeping: No bully would attack a little kid when a teacher is around, but would if the kid didn't have a teacher or other adult around him, the same applies to the military and the country. The enemy won't attack if we have a powerful military, but if we don't have a military we're totally vulnerable and our enemy can come over and beat up, kills us, torture us, whatever they want.



If I can't defend myself, then who is going to defend me?  If the government takes away our ability to defend ourselves, then they assume full responsibility for doing it.  If I can't own a gun, then they'd better have a policeman stationed at my front door.  Also, take a look at some of the countries that don't let regular citizens own guns, and look at their crime rates.  Some of them, like Britain, have significantly more violent crime.  In Switzerland on the other hand, gun ownership is very common, and they have very little violent crime.  The reason for this is actually pretty simple if you think about it.  Who's going to break into my house if they know I might keep a loaded shotgun in my closet?  When everyone is armed, attacking another person becomes an almost suicidal proposition.

I'm in full agreement with you.



The ability to get guns in Canada actually often depends on the type. A hunting rifle is easier to get and has less restrictions, but if you have a handgun, it has a large number of restrictions and you'd have to notify the RCMP every time you take it somewhere, even if just to go to a shooting range.

I support the right to bear arms. I agree with John.



I should mention I'm leaving for a bit, and will be back in about a week. Don't cause too much trouble! :O

 :thumbup:

Don't worry there won't be any trouble. ;D
*Omega leaves the room*
Heh......heh...heh...hahahahahahaa! *Snort* :scientist:

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Post by: kukac2 on 15 July 2010, 19:44:15
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No bully would attack a little kid when a teacher is around, but would if the kid didn't have a teacher or other adult around him

Still, the kid didn't have any guns to defend himself ;)
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Post by: Gabbe on 15 July 2010, 19:49:39
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Crime rates in Norway are very low. The increasing use of weapons in robberies is a worrying trend. Norway is a popular destination for asylum seekers; the Norwegian government is working to tackle people smuggling.

3 murders each 100.000 person
15 rapes each 100.000
4677 thefts each 100.000

Carrying weapons IS NOT USUAL among the population. Maybe it is usefull in the US...

Let me add that people are also buying weapons more now than before, and that is why
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The increasing use of weapons in robberies is a worrying trend.

Seriously for me the US need to settle things up and start to spedn more money on making the poor population richer and put them in work, I guess they have tons of people without a job that could do a lot...
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Post by: wyvern on 15 July 2010, 19:55:51
I think that it works cuz even if you yourself have a gun you don't know if the chap your about to try to rob is armed with a semi automatic pistol, he might gut you if you try, so I'd say its a good detterent, plus no offense but norways tiny in population compared to the US and doesn't have as many illegals and other unwanted people ::)
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Post by: Gabbe on 15 July 2010, 20:01:26
See, it is 150 murders among the 5 million population, you need to have less than 6000 murders to have a better system... you are 200 millions right?
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Post by: wyvern on 15 July 2010, 20:09:38
But you don't have illegals, drug smugglers and other unwanted people coming over your border, do you??
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Post by: Gabbe on 15 July 2010, 20:11:27
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Post by: wyvern on 15 July 2010, 20:14:37
Hm maybe, still probably not as bad as here, there are other reasons but I'd get yelled at if I mentioned those, lastly though Norway is a pretty rich country so theres not much reason for crime, or you have nicer people. ;D
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Post by: Gabbe on 15 July 2010, 20:16:06
Oh yes we are rich, thanks to US and UK yaya! Too bad US is the poorest :(
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Post by: wyvern on 15 July 2010, 20:22:00
Not really several countries are worse off and they have even bigger crime rates :(
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Post by: ElimiNator on 15 July 2010, 20:22:59
Oh yes we are rich, thanks to US and UK yaya! Too bad US is the poorest :(
Yah,  the US can never pay off their debt.
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Post by: wyvern on 15 July 2010, 20:24:54
Very true but that doesn't concern me too much :P
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Post by: Gabbe on 15 July 2010, 20:25:33
It will...sometime..when let me paint a picture of how these things work...

EDIT:

and they just drag whever they feel like...

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2111/chinaus.jpg (http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/2111/chinaus.jpg)

[Crop your images, darn it. -DH]
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Post by: wyvern on 15 July 2010, 20:27:52
you might not want to do that
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Post by: Gabbe on 15 July 2010, 20:30:23
lol look at your post count...
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Post by: wyvern on 15 July 2010, 20:31:51
I noticed :o :o I just contacted Omega about it, I have no idea what happened :| :|
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Post by: wyvern on 15 July 2010, 20:32:44
its fixed now :), don't know what happened
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Post by: Gabbe on 15 July 2010, 20:34:59
hes joking with you :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :O :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P

leet :O hahahhaha
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Post by: wyvern on 15 July 2010, 20:37:38
Whos joking with it I have no idea what happened
it was funny :O :O :O, but I don't know who did it
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Post by: Gabbe on 15 July 2010, 20:46:23
anyone know of some games that is in the prehistoric/stone age era?
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Post by: Gabbe on 15 July 2010, 21:04:57
dh it was a 19kb image...
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Post by: John.d.h on 15 July 2010, 21:59:35
Yeah, but you do that a lot.  Besides, it wasn't really very appropriate. :P
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Post by: Gabbe on 16 July 2010, 09:46:08
It did illustrate the situation well anyways... wich do you think is better for gaming, console or PC
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 16 July 2010, 14:43:56
About making guns illegal: That would send crime rates up! NEWSFLASH: CRIMINALS DON'T FOLLOW THE LAW, WHY DO YOU THINK WE CALL THEM CRIMINALS? What's to stop criminals from committing all sorts of crimes, they know that no one can stop them if no one is armed!
What's to stop a very sucidal person from killing themselves if there family owns a gun and he/she has good excess to it  :scared:

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Dictatorship vs Democracy: Dictatorship only works if you have a good leader, if you have a bad one, you're screwed. Democracy works very well until some idiot(like Obama) get's elected and breaks the rules.
I think anything will work if you have a good leader. like *cough cough communtisum or anarchy cough cough cough. I think i'm getting sick here  ::)

If I can't defend myself, then who is going to defend me?  If the government takes away our ability to defend ourselves, then they assume full responsibility for doing it.  If I can't own a gun, then they'd better have a policeman stationed at my front door.  Also, take a look at some of the countries that don't let regular citizens own guns, and look at their crime rates.  Some of them, like Britain, have significantly more violent crime.  In Switzerland on the other hand, gun ownership is very common, and they have very little violent crime.  The reason for this is actually pretty simple if you think about it.  Who's going to break into my house if they know I might keep a loaded shotgun in my closet?  When everyone is armed, attacking another person becomes an almost suicidal proposition.
Well most criminals wouldn't mind being killed after they killed another person before dieing cause thats an achivement for them that they killed atleast one other person

I should mention I'm leaving for a bit, and will be back in about a week. Don't cause too much trouble! :O
  :angel: see I'm good!                                                                                     muhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha  :scientist: :bomb: :bomb: :bomb: :bomb: NOT
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Post by: Gabbe on 16 July 2010, 14:51:08
Communism is good if every citizen wants it and actually do work... and note that socialism and communism are to very similar but different things.

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I think anything will work if you have a good leader. like *cough cough communtisum or anarchy cough cough cough. I think i'm getting sick here  Roll Eyes

didn`t you want anarchy? :P
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They drop it at the right place in the US, then lot of crap happens and the country runs into anarchy, then the russians come knocking at the door, THE END.

It`s not only about having a good leader, you`ll need resources, diplomatic alliances, etc etc etc.

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What's to stop a very sucidal person from killing themselves if there family owns a gun and he/she has good excess to it  Scared

Whats the problem if you want to kill yourself?

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Well most criminals wouldn't mind being killed after they killed another person before dieing cause thats an achivement for them that they killed atleast one other person

no no, thats psychos :)

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uhhh, looks like everyone is going to screw the forum now :D
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Post by: wyvern on 16 July 2010, 15:23:58
yes it does and anarchies awful because it means theres no government at all can you imagine that, every system works with the right people but it will crash sooner or later, and yes criminals are scared of getting shot trying to kill someone ::)
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Post by: Gabbe on 16 July 2010, 15:48:27
If everyone were carrying guns, how do you know they are criminals?
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Post by: wyvern on 16 July 2010, 16:28:56
What difference does it make if everyone had a gun criminals would be too scared to attack them.
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Post by: John.d.h on 16 July 2010, 16:52:42
What's to stop a very sucidal person from killing themselves if there family owns a gun and he/she has good excess to it  :scared:
What's to stop very suicidal people from killing themselves if their family owns a knife they can slit their wrists with, or a bottle of sleeping pills they can overdose on, or they live near a tall building they can jump off of, or they have a rope they can hang themselves with?  Do you want to get rid of all of those things too?  Besides, if you're really deathly afraid of somebody in your house shooting themselves in the head, load it with rubber shot.  A 12-gauge at close range will still ruin anybody's day, and likely break some bones, but the odds of killing anybody is fairly low.

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Dictatorship vs Democracy: Dictatorship only works if you have a good leader, if you have a bad one, you're screwed. Democracy works very well until some idiot(like Obama) get's elected and breaks the rules.
I think anything will work if you have a good leader. like *cough cough communtisum or anarchy cough cough cough. I think i'm getting sick here  ::)
lol In anarchy, you have no leader.  That's the point. :P Anyway, any system is broken if you have a lousy leader.  Some just have more checks and balances in place in case that happens.  For example, we've got congress and the supreme court in case the president gets mad with power.  Of course, that's not much of a defense if they're just as crazy as he is. :look:

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Well most criminals wouldn't mind being killed after they killed another person before dieing cause thats an achivement for them that they killed atleast one other person
You're kidding, right?  I don't think you understand how criminality works.  Very, very few murders are actually committed by psychos who just feel like killing somebody.  Don't worry about the psychopaths.  Worry about the drug addicts breaking into your house to steal your belongings and sell them for crack money.  Worry about the muggers who want to rape you and take your money.  Worry about the gang crossfires you might get caught in the middle of.  Worry about insecure men in your life who can't handle their anger and have no way of settlings conflicts except through violence.  Those are the people who are likely to kill you, not some insane serial killer who's doing it just for fun.

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Post by: wyvern on 16 July 2010, 16:55:45
What's to stop a very sucidal person from killing themselves if there family owns a gun and he/she has good excess to it  :scared:
What's to stop very suicidal people from killing themselves if their family owns a knife they can slit their wrists with, or a bottle of sleeping pills they can overdose on, or they live near a tall building they can jump off of, or they have a rope they can hang themselves with?  Do you want to get rid of all of those things too?  Besides, if you're really deathly afraid of somebody in your house shooting themselves in the head, load it with rubber shot.  A 12-gauge at close range will still ruin anybody's day, and likely break some bones, but the odds of killing anybody is fairly low.

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Dictatorship vs Democracy: Dictatorship only works if you have a good leader, if you have a bad one, you're screwed. Democracy works very well until some idiot(like Obama) get's elected and breaks the rules.
I think anything will work if you have a good leader. like *cough cough communtisum or anarchy cough cough cough. I think i'm getting sick here  ::)
lol In anarchy, you have no leader.  That's the point. :P Anyway, any system is broken if you have a lousy leader.  Some just have more checks and balances in place in case that happens.  For example, we've got congress and the supreme court in case the president gets mad with power.  Of course, that's not much of a defense if they're just as crazy as he is. :look:

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Well most criminals wouldn't mind being killed after they killed another person before dieing cause thats an achivement for them that they killed atleast one other person
You're kidding, right?  I don't think you understand how criminality works.  Very, very few murders are actually committed by psychos who just feel like killing somebody.  Don't worry about the psychopaths.  Worry about the drug addicts breaking into your house to steal your belongings and sell them for crack money.  Worry about the muggers who want to rape you and take your money.  Worry about the gang crossfires you might get caught in the middle of.  Worry about insecure men in your life who can't handle their anger and have no way of settlings conflicts except through violence.  Those are the people who are likely to kill you, not some insane serial killer who's doing it just for fun.

Very true john I agree completely
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Post by: Gabbe on 16 July 2010, 17:25:52
Giving everyone full acces to weapons could quickly become anarchy  :| all you need is some crazy dudes with much respect and then people will start to want power...There are disadvantages and advantages, maybe in the US it is needed with weapons on the street, but i still don`t support full arming of the population...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajfz74TgfQoImagine if their parents got guns and yeah, hell, what a bloody mess...
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Post by: -Archmage- on 16 July 2010, 17:51:17
What's to stop a very sucidal person from killing themselves if there family owns a gun and he/she has good excess to it  :scared:
What's to stop very suicidal people from killing themselves if their family owns a knife they can slit their wrists with, or a bottle of sleeping pills they can overdose on, or they live near a tall building they can jump off of, or they have a rope they can hang themselves with?  Do you want to get rid of all of those things too?  Besides, if you're really deathly afraid of somebody in your house shooting themselves in the head, load it with rubber shot.  A 12-gauge at close range will still ruin anybody's day, and likely break some bones, but the odds of killing anybody is fairly low.

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Dictatorship vs Democracy: Dictatorship only works if you have a good leader, if you have a bad one, you're screwed. Democracy works very well until some idiot(like Obama) get's elected and breaks the rules.
I think anything will work if you have a good leader. like *cough cough communtisum or anarchy cough cough cough. I think i'm getting sick here  ::)
lol In anarchy, you have no leader.  That's the point. :P Anyway, any system is broken if you have a lousy leader.  Some just have more checks and balances in place in case that happens.  For example, we've got congress and the supreme court in case the president gets mad with power.  Of course, that's not much of a defense if they're just as crazy as he is. :look:

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Well most criminals wouldn't mind being killed after they killed another person before dieing cause thats an achivement for them that they killed atleast one other person
You're kidding, right?  I don't think you understand how criminality works.  Very, very few murders are actually committed by psychos who just feel like killing somebody.  Don't worry about the psychopaths.  Worry about the drug addicts breaking into your house to steal your belongings and sell them for crack money.  Worry about the muggers who want to rape you and take your money.  Worry about the gang crossfires you might get caught in the middle of.  Worry about insecure men in your life who can't handle their anger and have no way of settlings conflicts except through violence.  Those are the people who are likely to kill you, not some insane serial killer who's doing it just for fun.

Very true john I agree completely

Completely true and very well said. :thumbup:



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Giving everyone full acces to weapons could quickly become anarchy

Hmmm......Look at the military, they have full access to weapons. The military works a lot better than society..............
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Post by: Gabbe on 16 July 2010, 20:58:46
Military -> needs money

Society -> got money

Society -> needs military help

Military -> get money from society

Military -> protects society

I don`t think military ruled countries do very well...Civillian authority ftw! The military only works if it got society to support it, I think, and I don`t think i will change my mind either..but if you want to debate it..

On another note, I just got a lot interested in astronomy (again, I read A LOT when i was 8-12 years old about it). I wan`t to know, is this true what the video says?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCADH3x56eE It is extrmely interseting, i suggest everyone should study it at some point. It is fun also, and enlightening. The thing im most interested in is, the big huge bang (not bang in that meaning :P)

(http://www.dula.tv/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/world-according-to-americans.jpg)

I just loled so hard! I found it when I searched for "theist leaders" on google, some houndred pages back...

EDIT: no disrespect for individuals who doesn`t have this view on the world, It is just that i have met a lot of americans thinking this way...niot that bad but kinda.
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Post by: ultifd on 16 July 2010, 22:57:38
Hmm, you are kinda "extending" it, as usual...
Let's see, that is how it is to some kinda in America...adults, not really, but half way similar...
Kinda funny. just a bit...not really :P
Actually, I don't really know anybody that thinks like that here...maybe some kids, but that is about it. I never saw the world as like that anyways...
Funny pic.
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Post by: Gabbe on 16 July 2010, 23:00:40
I have met some :P I just though it might illustarte very well a simple world view. when you look at it, everything is just real, except the uninhabited and that Norwgeians are pussies RARWR VIKING POWER!!!
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Post by: wyvern on 16 July 2010, 23:01:28
I think its very funny and heres the reason, my parents came from the Czech Republic and one day some woman that was my moms co worker asked her if they have a moon and road systems in the Czech Republic, so this is very funny but to a limited degree true :P :P
Viking power hm that was what a thousand years ago, har har
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Post by: Gabbe on 16 July 2010, 23:03:37
Telemark battalion FTW!

And my teahcer have met some thinking Norway is connected to the northpole and that we ride on polar bears instead of cars.
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Post by: wyvern on 16 July 2010, 23:06:00
Lol sad facts I see ::), at least I know that you really ride reindeer :O :O(joking)
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Post by: Gabbe on 16 July 2010, 23:12:03
Funny is, thats true, i don`t kno what you call them but there is those tribes at the top, we call them "samer" and are as one reffered to as "same" wich actually do ride those animals at a daily rate, still, know they got other vehicles and stuff so..
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Post by: wyvern on 16 July 2010, 23:13:49
I meant in general not a couple of tribes, and yeah I read about them somewhere, still I doubt you and most of the population ride reindeer :O :O
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Post by: Gabbe on 16 July 2010, 23:21:59
http://english-social-studies.blogspot.com/2009/10/to-my-korean-friends-about-weather-in.html (http://english-social-studies.blogspot.com/2009/10/to-my-korean-friends-about-weather-in.html)
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Post by: wyvern on 16 July 2010, 23:25:47
http://english-social-studies.blogspot.com/2009/10/to-my-korean-friends-about-weather-in.html (http://english-social-studies.blogspot.com/2009/10/to-my-korean-friends-about-weather-in.html)
LOL I'll say thats pretty stupid :O :O
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Post by: Gabbe on 16 July 2010, 23:30:46
yeå it sure is, and the guys doesn`t realize it is a joke...Even havign a polar bear as a pet would get you in jail for a long time. rididng it in the road to the school, yeah right, there woudl probably be military there in minutes...
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Post by: wyvern on 16 July 2010, 23:38:14
I'd say thats pretty sad :(,knowing how stupid some people are
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Post by: Gabbe on 16 July 2010, 23:52:15
Nah, it only makes me look smarter hahahaha :O :O
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Post by: wyvern on 16 July 2010, 23:57:47
Makes me feel like an Einstein :O :O ;D ;D
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Post by: Gabbe on 17 July 2010, 00:10:51
Yeah, feeling smarter than others are actually a human instinct...
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 17 July 2010, 03:15:29
yeå it sure is, and the guys doesn`t realize it is a joke...Even havign a polar bear as a pet would get you in jail for a long time. rididng it in the road to the school, yeah right, there woudl probably be military there in minutes...
Not if they allow it and only aniamls that aren't wild and behave
And my teahcer have met some thinking Norway is connected to the northpole and that we ride on polar bears instead of cars.
lol OMG thats such a good idea. It would stop polution of cars too!
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Post by: -Archmage- on 17 July 2010, 05:35:38
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And my teahcer have met some thinking Norway is connected to the northpole and that we ride on polar bears instead of cars.
lol OMG thats such a good idea. It would stop polution of cars too!

Car pollution isn't a problem.

Riding a polar bear would be fun, you'd probably have backpains for rest of your life though.
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Post by: Gabbe on 17 July 2010, 09:36:17
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Not if they allow it and only aniamls that aren't wild and behave
perfect example of what i was just saying, right wyvern? Sorry, but this is the rela world and ridding elephants isn`t going to replace the cars for a long time, neither will horses...too little of them..

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Riding a polar bear would be fun, you'd probably have backpains for rest of your life though.

I think on SvalBard they have such a thing were your allowed to do this on small ones...you gotta be a kid tho..
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Post by: John.d.h on 17 July 2010, 18:29:37
Car pollution isn't a problem.
Please tell me you're trolling.
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Post by: Gabbe on 17 July 2010, 18:54:42
Car pollution isn't a problem.
Please tell me you're trolling.

He is not, he is being insane again, Global warming is also not existant---
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Post by: kukac2 on 17 July 2010, 19:32:11
Atheist are lying again, right? Everything is perfect.
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Post by: Gabbe on 17 July 2010, 20:41:43
lol for the irony! ;D
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Post by: wyvern on 18 July 2010, 00:56:27
lol for the irony! ;D
LOL
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Post by: John.d.h on 18 July 2010, 01:16:33
Atheist are lying again, right? Everything is perfect.
:O Good one!  Must be the same liberal media behind the JFK "grassy knoll" cover-up. ;)
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 18 July 2010, 02:39:45
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Quote from: Gabbe on July 16, 2010, 20:08:25
And my teahcer have met some thinking Norway is connected to the northpole and that we ride on polar bears instead of cars.
lol OMG thats such a good idea. It would stop polution of cars too!

Car pollution isn't a problem.

Riding a polar bear would be fun, you'd probably have backpains for rest of your life though.

OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!! If you are serious you pobally never watch the news in your life or have any sence of whats going on in the world. Car polution is a very big problem now possibly the biggest with global warming.
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Post by: ultifd on 18 July 2010, 17:51:25
Maybe, or not. It is somewhat at least...
Now lets not start about Global Warming, we don't need a discussion about that.  :|
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Post by: John.d.h on 18 July 2010, 17:58:35
Either way, try sucking on the exhaust pipe of a running car and see if car exhaust causes no problems.  Actually, don't do that.  It would likely kill you.
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Post by: Gabbe on 18 July 2010, 19:21:02
Either way, try sucking on the exhaust pipe of a running car and see if car exhaust causes no problems.  Actually, don't do that.  It would likely kill you.

It may be a gift of god to send us to heaven quicker XD
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 19 July 2010, 14:00:01
Either way, try sucking on the exhaust pipe of a running car and see if car exhaust causes no problems.  Actually, don't do that.  It would likely kill you.

It may be a gift of god to send us to heaven quicker XD

Not if you try to kill yourself sooner...
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Post by: Gabbe on 19 July 2010, 14:45:22
Either way, try sucking on the exhaust pipe of a running car and see if car exhaust causes no problems.  Actually, don't do that.  It would likely kill you.

It may be a gift of god to send us to heaven quicker XD

Not if you try to kill yourself sooner...

Well, as obvious as it is, heaven/hell is supposedly the stage after life....
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Post by: wyvern on 19 July 2010, 17:11:22
supposedly is the key word there ;D ;D :O :O
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Post by: Gabbe on 19 July 2010, 17:27:31
CatMystery is atheist as far aS I KNOW, lets not get into that :P

Why do you bring up logic and reason?!?!?!? are you intentionally trying to confuse the theists!?!?!?
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Post by: wyvern on 19 July 2010, 19:35:50
CatMystery is atheist as far aS I KNOW, lets not get into that :P

Why do you bring up logic and reason?!?!?!? are you intentionally trying to confuse the theists!?!?!?
Sorry :-[ :-[
NOT :P :P :P
At any rate I agree lets not start that discussion. :|
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 19 July 2010, 23:45:50
CatMystery is atheist as far aS I KNOW, lets not get into that :P

Why do you bring up logic and reason?!?!?!? are you intentionally trying to confuse the theists!?!?!?

I AM A ATHEIST. um I'm confused now what are you talking about not bringing up what??? what topic?
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Post by: Omega on 20 July 2010, 01:07:52
I'm baaaack. Hopefully the trolling didn't sky rocket while I was away.... :look:



Interestingly, the board is about split or so between athiests and theists, which I find very interesting, since according to wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_religious_populations), 68.38% - 90.73% of the world's population is religous of some type.

Christianity alone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_by_country):
-About 33% of the world's population is Christian
-Biggest percentage is Guatemala, Panama, Vatican City, and Micronesia where 100% of the population states their religion as christianity.
-Africa is the fastest growing christian population, going from 8.7 million in 1900 to 390 million today (a 4400% change). Also, every year, 6 million african muslims convert to Christianity.
By Country:
-74.1% of Canadians
-78% of Americans
-71% of British
-74.4% of Hungarians
-85.6-90% of Norwegians
-87-94% of Italians
-85% of Spanish
-79% of Swiss
-70% of Germans

By continent:
-82% of North America
-90% of South America
-92% of Central America
-98% of the Caribbeans
-75% of Europe
-The europeans are 75%

Christianity has 22708799 people born into it yearly and 2501396 converted into it yearly, for a 25210195 annual growth, which is a 1.36% growth (just slightly below the world's 1.4% growth rate). That puts it at the most conversions and births among any religion, though its growth percentage is lower than muslims, but that is primarily because of higher populations of christians.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/44/Christian_distribution.png/400px-Christian_distribution.png)

I do not post this to make a point or spark debate, simply to show some interesting facts. Please do *not* discuss the fundlements of this here. This isn't a debate of christianity, simply a collection of facts that I found interesting.
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Post by: John.d.h on 20 July 2010, 03:03:24
Nah, we were holding down the fort while you were gone. ;)

(Actually, I was gone for most of the weekend, but the others kept everything in order.)

I would have something to say about those statistics, but we all know where that road leads, so... moving right along... :look:

(http://www.thedoghousediaries.com/comics/uncategorized/2010-07-05-a569fb4.png) (http://www.thedoghousediaries.com/?p=1854)
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Post by: Gabbe on 20 July 2010, 12:02:06
Omega, you have got it wrong, 70 % of the Norwegian population are atheist, 30-20 percent are actualy christians, but 90 % are members of the state church, and I even as atheist can`t get out of the state church until im 15, because my parents choose so. Im not debating you, im just correcting you about your facts about Norway. you have bout 30 percent beliving in no god or magical being, about 30 percent not beliving in any god but a life force. atheist is beliving in no god, aka 70 % atheists in Norway, and indoctrination is not good, it is evil, and when you take out all the childrens of that list you see a dramatically drop at how many people. There is no such thing as a christian child muslim child or hindu child. omg sorry now im debating...

And yeah, Omega, is it good to know we live in the best countries in the world?  :P
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Post by: -Archmage- on 20 July 2010, 15:16:49
I see a lot happened while I was gone.........

I refuse to debate, because this is a civil forum and our debates never go anywhere besides a flame-wars match. :|
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Post by: wyvern on 20 July 2010, 15:39:29
Yes, lets not go down that road, funny thing Gabbe I think the czech population is also mostly atheist :O, though maybe not officially
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Post by: ultifd on 20 July 2010, 18:54:29
@Gabbe well isn't it from Wikipedia?  :|
Yeah, I wonder why? I guess we can only handle basic debates.  :P
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 20 July 2010, 20:06:25
I see a lot happened while I was gone.........

I refuse to debate, because this is a civil forum and our debates never go anywhere besides a flame-wars match. :|
Thats why I stopped posting even though I stalk the forum and read everything everyone has said... but even so whats so wrong with them, they are fun.
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Post by: Gabbe on 20 July 2010, 20:27:52
I see a lot happened while I was gone.........

I refuse to debate, because this is a civil forum and our debates never go anywhere besides a flame-wars match. :|
Thats why I stopped posting even though I stalk the forum and read everything everyone has said... but even so whats so wrong with them, they are fun.

I donno, I want them but everyone else doesn`t so to the good of the majority..
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Post by: Omega on 20 July 2010, 21:09:49
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QyYaPWasos
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Post by: ultifd on 20 July 2010, 21:16:01
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QyYaPWasos
:O ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR-A4QFHZBA
Yeh?
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Post by: Omega on 21 July 2010, 01:15:44
Yep, its a parody of the *drumroll* awesome billy joel song.
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Post by: ultifd on 21 July 2010, 01:43:18
Yep, awesome.  :swordman:
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Post by: Gabbe on 21 July 2010, 07:16:27
Funny as hell, and it is true too XD

The vid is private!??!
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 21 July 2010, 14:07:18
Funny as hell, and it is true too XD
OMG I'm so sick of hearing that song it brings back too much memories of school. And I don't see whats so funny with it or how awesome it is it just says a bunch of names of people and stuff doesn't make to muhc sence. Anyways wanna hear something even more funny and awesome
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKhN0gh0kjY

also just listen to the song there isn't much visuals

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Post by: ultifd on 21 July 2010, 19:10:40
The vid is private!??!
What vid?  :|
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Hmm, just noticed that Firefox got updated.
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Post by: Omega on 22 July 2010, 01:49:43
What? How can you possibly not like that song? Billy Joel *is* awesome!

Quote from: Lyrics!
Harry Truman, Doris Day, Red China, Johnnie Ray
South Pacific, Walter Winchell, Joe DiMaggio

Joe McCarthy, Richard Nixon, Studebaker, television
North Korea, South Korea, Marilyn Monroe

Rosenbergs, H-Bomb, Sugar Ray, Panmunjom
Brando, "The King and I", and "The Catcher in the Rye"

Eisenhower, vaccine, England's got a new queen
Marciano, Liberace, Santayana goodbye

CHORUS
We didn't start the fire
It was always burning
Since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire
No we didn't light it
But we tried to fight it

Josef Stalin, Malenkov, Nasser and Prokofiev
Rockefeller, Campanella, Communist Bloc

Roy Cohn, Juan Peron, Toscanini, dacron
Dien Bien Phu and "Rock Around the Clock"

Einstein, James Dean, Brooklyn's got a winning team
Davy Crockett, "Peter Pan", Elvis Presley, Disneyland

Bardot, Budapest, Alabama, Khrushchev
Princess Grace, "Peyton Place", trouble in the Suez

CHORUS

Little Rock, Pasternak, Mickey Mantle, Kerouac
Sputnik, Chou En-Lai, "Bridge on the River Kwai"

Lebanon, Charles de Gaulle, California baseball
Starkweather, homicide, children of thalidomide

Buddy Holly, "Ben-Hur", space monkey, Mafia
hula hoops, Castro, Edsel is a no go

U2, Syngman Rhee, payola and Kennedy
Chubby Checker, "Psycho", Belgians in the Congo

CHORUS

Hemingway, Eichmann, "Stranger in a Strange Land"
Dylan, Berlin, Bay of Pigs Invasion

"Lawrence of Arabia", British Beatlemania
Ole Miss, John Glenn, Liston beats Patterson

Pope Paul, Malcolm X, British politician sex
JFK, blown away, what else do I have to say

CHORUS

Birth control, Ho Chi Minh, Richard Nixon, back again
Moonshot, Woodstock, Watergate, punk rock
Begin, Reagan, Palestine, terror on the airline
Ayatollolah's in Iran, Russians in Afghanistan

"Wheel of Fortune" , Sally Ride, heavy metal, suicide
Foreign debts, homeless vets, AIDS, Crack, Bernie Goetz
Hypodermics on the shore, China's under martial law
Rock and Roller Cola Wars, I can't take it anymore

CHORUS

We didn't start the fire
But when we are gone
Will it still burn on, and on, and on, and on...

What do these words mean? Simple, its history of sometime in the mid 1940-around 1980. Its basically every big name or event that happened. Memorizing the lyrics of this song is guarenteed to help you ace history class. Of course, singing this would take a lot of practice, since on the first run, I recall I couldn't pronounce half of the names! :O



Hmm, it has been updated... 3.6.7 now. Only a matter of time before v4 is no longer a beta too. :D
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 22 July 2010, 01:50:57
The vid is private!??!
What vid?  :|
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Hmm, just noticed that Firefox got updated.
Hes talking about what omega posted

also did anyone even watch what I posted?!?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKhN0gh0kjY

[Yes Omega I did quote myself again]  ::)
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 22 July 2010, 01:53:20
What? How can you possibly not like that song? Billy Joel *is* awesome!

What do these words mean? Simple, its history of sometime in the mid 1940-around 1980. Its basically every big name or event that happened. Memorizing the lyrics of this song is guarenteed to help you ace history class. Of course, singing this would take a lot of practice, since on the first run, I recall I couldn't pronounce half of the names! :O



Hmm, it has been updated... 3.6.7 now. Only a matter of time before v4 is no longer a beta too. :D

I don't like this song because we referenced it in history and yes i know that it says like words of things and people in history I just think its stupid plus he only got famous for that no creativitly there. And I just don't like billy joels music
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Post by: Omega on 22 July 2010, 02:14:32
I just think its stupid plus he only got famous for that no creativitly there. And I just don't like billy joels music
:o :o :o
You... don't like THE Billy Joel?! :'(

Really though, thats lots of creativity, and haven't you heard his other songs? He has dozens of songs, most which he wrote single-handedly. 33 of his songs were in the top 40s for USA, and he is the 3rd best selling solo musician of all time in the USA!

You should listen to some of the other songs. Some of my favs are:
-Uptown Girl
-You may be right, I may be crazy
-Sometimes a fantasy
-
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Post by: ultifd on 22 July 2010, 02:22:36
Hes talking about what omega posted
Oh, ok. I guess they changed it...whatever.

Hmm, it has been updated... 3.6.7 now. Only a matter of time before v4 is no longer a beta too. :D
Meh, not so fast. I mean it should still be a long time.  :P
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Post by: Omega on 22 July 2010, 02:26:48
No video I posted is private. Not only did I get the URL with google, but collegehumour is always public. They need the views anyway (they release videos for a month on their site before they post on youtube, so attracting people to their site (which is still awesome BTW) nets them some pretty ads revenue).
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 22 July 2010, 02:36:21
I just think its stupid plus he only got famous for that no creativitly there. And I just don't like billy joels music
:o :o :o
You... don't like THE Billy Joel?! :'(

Really though, thats lots of creativity, and haven't you heard his other songs? He has dozens of songs, most which he wrote single-handedly. 33 of his songs were in the top 40s for USA, and he is the 3rd best selling solo musician of all time in the USA!

You should listen to some of the other songs. Some of my favs are:
-Uptown Girl
-You may be right, I may be crazy
-Sometimes a fantasy
-
Just sounds like your a big time fan.....  even thought he won many things like many of the people i listen to doesn't make him great...  I listened its okay i guess.. not really
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Post by: Gabbe on 22 July 2010, 10:38:13
I didn`t get your video xcat? what is the point? music? funny? anyways, the music i think was boring  ;)
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 22 July 2010, 13:31:37
I didn`t get your video xcat? what is the point? music? funny? anyways, the music i think was boring  ;)
  >:( just music that to me is funny and its not boring to me. Try listen to it for a whole day repeating (i had to b/c this person was on drugs and my mom had to take care of him he listens to so much music all that time)
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Post by: Omega on 22 July 2010, 18:04:29
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/moria.png)
Tooltip: Someone should really bring them a ladder and remind them to build the Endless Stair *first* next time.
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Post by: ElimiNator on 22 July 2010, 20:49:58
Omega your pro pic isn't working...
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Post by: ultifd on 22 July 2010, 21:16:45
Omega your pro pic isn't working...
Yeah, the server that "hosts" it is down...currently.
http://img13.imageshack.us/
Weird.
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 22 July 2010, 22:59:23
Omega your pro pic isn't working...
Yeah, the server that "hosts" it is down...currently.
http://img13.imageshack.us/
Weird.

I noticed and gabbe pic too... funny pic Omega
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Post by: ultifd on 22 July 2010, 23:56:46
I noticed and gabbe pic too... funny pic Omega
Yeah
But for gabbe I don't see an "outline" of the avatar...so maybe gabbe changed it to nothing? or something else, etc...
Or maybe I am wrong, whatever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FavUpD_IjVY
Weird... :silence:
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Post by: -Archmage- on 23 July 2010, 14:59:27
 ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTYfawsaNMo



And another one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT86iWiH2mI
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 23 July 2010, 15:42:28
is it just me but is this smilie new  :'(? i just noticed it  :'( :'( :'( :'(
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Post by: wyvern on 23 July 2010, 16:01:32
How come you didn't notice it its been on for a while, seriously ::) ::)
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Post by: ultifd on 24 July 2010, 00:19:31
Hmm, just found out Firefox got updated again. Something about plugins...
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Post by: wyvern on 25 July 2010, 01:53:55
yeah same here :|
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 26 July 2010, 02:06:51
How come you didn't notice it its been on for a while, seriously ::) ::)
It takes me awhile to notice things. 0.0
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Post by: wyvern on 26 July 2010, 16:24:51
How come you didn't notice it its been on for a while, seriously ::) ::)
It takes me awhile to notice things. 0.0
:O :O :O :O,it was on when I joined this forum four months ago :O :O :O, LOL
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Post by: -Archmage- on 26 July 2010, 18:57:15
Months after my registration I was still noticing things on the forum, so you wanna make fun of me too? :P   :scientist:
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Post by: wyvern on 26 July 2010, 19:00:03
Sure :D :D,JK, no but I just thought it was funny that someone didn't notice that smiley ;D ;D
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Post by: -Archmage- on 26 July 2010, 19:31:12
Has anyone here ever played Crysis or Crysis Warhead, besides Gabbe, and I? :|
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Post by: wyvern on 26 July 2010, 19:43:00
Not me I'm not much of an FPS person, I've played COD and battlefield though :|
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Post by: -Archmage- on 26 July 2010, 19:47:34
Which call of duty and which Battlefield?
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Post by: wyvern on 26 July 2010, 20:00:27
COD world at war, battlefield 1942, battlefield vietnam and battlefield bad company 2 at a friends
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Post by: -Archmage- on 26 July 2010, 20:54:59
Cool.

Modern Warfare 2(at friends house), and Battlefield 1942, I also have Commandos Strikeforce. ;D
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Post by: Gabbe on 26 July 2010, 21:00:46
mw2 SUCKS ON PC!! hackers all around the place...
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Post by: wyvern on 27 July 2010, 02:10:56
I saw commandos Strikeforce somewhere and considered buying it is it a good game? :)
Battlefield1942 is amazing especially the addon with the experimental weapons of WW2
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 27 July 2010, 03:44:01
Sure :D :D,JK, no but I just thought it was funny that someone didn't notice that smiley ;D ;D
well no ones uses the cry that much 0.0
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Post by: Gabbe on 27 July 2010, 08:00:47
don`t they?  :'( how sad and depressing  :'( such a good smiley  :'(
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 27 July 2010, 13:42:24
don`t they?  :'( how sad and depressing  :'( such a good smiley  :'(
lol good one!  yes how sad  :'( :green: :zzz: :silence:
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Post by: wyvern on 27 July 2010, 14:22:58
Not as sad as this :dead: :dead:
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Post by: -Archmage- on 27 July 2010, 17:45:55
I saw commandos Strikeforce somewhere and considered buying it is it a good game? :)

Yea, it's a lot of fun, good graphics, fun campaign(sneaking, and open battles!  :thumbup:). I definitely recommend it! :D



Battlefield1942 is amazing especially the addon with the experimental weapons of WW2

Battlefield 1942 is ok..... but it's nothing compared to crysis! :P
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Post by: Gabbe on 27 July 2010, 17:59:33
arma 2 and crysis are just about equal...try arma 2 and ur computer will blow
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Post by: wyvern on 28 July 2010, 13:35:47
I saw commandos Strikeforce somewhere and considered buying it is it a good game? :)

Yea, it's a lot of fun, good graphics, fun campaign(sneaking, and open battles!  :thumbup:). I definitely recommend it! :D



Battlefield1942 is amazing especially the addon with the experimental weapons of WW2

Battlefield 1942 is ok..... but it's nothing compared to crysis! :P
maybe but I usually don't care for FPS much and I prefer past over future so its just my opinion
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Post by: Gabbe on 28 July 2010, 17:20:52
sorry i forgot, your a teacher in history class(http://serve.mysmiley.net/ashamed/ashamed0006.gif)  :D

whats ur favourite RTS game?
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Post by: wyvern on 28 July 2010, 17:38:36
Making fun of me are you student that will be a twenty page essay on the winter war :P :P my favorite RTS is sudden strike, glest or spring, I'm not sure which one though
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Post by: Gabbe on 28 July 2010, 21:05:49
starcraft,AOE series and ofc civilisation

noooo, i was plannin to do something in my holiday XP
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Post by: Omega on 29 July 2010, 03:22:21
Glest is really the only RTS I play. Though my favorite RPG is Final Fantasy IX, my favorite FPS (single player mode only) is probably CoD:MW or Bioshock (not sure which), and my favorite of the mixture (First Person RPG) is Oblivion :D.
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Post by: ultifd on 29 July 2010, 05:41:51
Glest is really the only RTS I play.
Same, most of the time. I guess I just like free, and also open source games.  :O Some are even better than commercial, or more fun...  :|
Then again commercial games are cool, usually it is just about the price. ...But there is always piracy, for now at least...  :|
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Post by: Gabbe on 29 July 2010, 11:31:37
what do you think is the time limit till someone cathces skidrow and razor1911?
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Post by: Omega on 29 July 2010, 18:16:33
Actually, I forgot a game. The only RTS's I've played, largly because I do not know very many, are Age of Empires and Glest. AoE is very old, but it is still a masterful game!

Except I think I broke my version some how... All of the graphics are screwed up, with the water being purpleish, etc; Looks 8 bit too... Couldn't fix it through any settings or configuration, so it'll be time to reinstall soon.
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Post by: Gabbe on 29 July 2010, 18:27:45
surely piratebay.com might solve ur problems eh eh eh.. :-[ :D yeah aoe was the big time RTS game...ever never gonna beat that with anything...
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Post by: Gabbe on 30 July 2010, 02:14:58
uh great new update, on a youtube vid, hold left arrow until you can play snake, just try :P
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Post by: ultifd on 30 July 2010, 19:10:53
Youtube ups the limit to 15 minutes now, since
Quote
Well, we've spent significant resources on creating and improving our state-of-the-art Content ID system and many other powerful tools for copyright owners. Now, all of the major U.S. movie studios, music labels and over 1,000 other global partners use Content ID to manage their content on YouTube. Because of the success of these ongoing technological efforts, we are able to increase the upload limit today
Hmm, cool I guess. 11 minutes was the limit before. I wonder though, is 15 the limit or 16...  :|
Useful.
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Post by: Gabbe on 31 July 2010, 07:44:32
didi you try whait i said? hold down left key until you can play snake :) only works with transparent videos
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Post by: ultifd on 1 August 2010, 06:47:34
didi you try whait i said? hold down left key until you can play snake :) only works with transparent videos
Sorry, I kinda ignore double posts... Well, I wish I could. Joking...
I did, cool. Not the best "Snake" though. But cool.
Easter egg...
Oh, and I think it works best on like a "black screen"...usually.  :|
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oi1BcouEmio

Damm, it is August. Time really pasts too fast sometimes.  :|
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Post by: mictes on 1 August 2010, 09:16:52
The best RTS ever was Cossacks - Back to war.
It's such bad that cossacks II is such a big fail...

Warhammer 40K Series rocks, too

I tried spring (surrender! :D) and liked it, too (complete annihilation) - but it does not make fun for long time cus gui is terrible and no music
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Post by: Gabbe on 1 August 2010, 12:12:54
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ujwetOU45Y

Hilarious!! XDD watch it, only a few secs :P
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Post by: ultifd on 1 August 2010, 17:29:35
The best RTS ever was Cossacks - Back to war.
It's such bad that cossacks II is such a big fail...
Yeah, too bad I can't remember my favorite RTS...I mean before Glest, you know.
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Post by: Loronal on 2 August 2010, 00:15:49
Dude the best war rts is Battle for middle Earth 2. Its more tactics that resource management.
THe counterpart (resource management) rts would be AOE 3+ ep 1+2
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Post by: wyvern on 2 August 2010, 02:25:31
Sudden strikes a great RTS
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Post by: Gabbe on 2 August 2010, 10:19:52
Dude the best war rts is Battle for middle Earth 2. Its more tactics that resource management.
THe counterpart (resource management) rts would be AOE 3+ ep 1+2

TOTALLY IN AGREEMENT XD
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 2 August 2010, 14:15:30
Hilarious!! XDD watch it, only a few secs :P
HAHA.
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Post by: mictes on 2 August 2010, 14:19:47
If you like tacticts more than building bases try warhammer 40k dawn of war II Chaos Rising
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Post by: wyvern on 2 August 2010, 17:03:58
or sudden strike
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Post by: Gabbe on 2 August 2010, 18:30:48
I like simulators, thats why i staretd with game design and coding in the first place :)
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Post by: Mark on 9 August 2010, 14:27:09
Hey, does anybody know of good fantasy book/series selections?  I have read LOTR, some Lloyd Alexander (don't really like him), Suzanne Collins, Eragon and other basic ones... if you can find it in the middle school library, I have either passed it by (sometimes unjustly), or read it.  Mostly read it.  But if you know of any good fantasy involving orcs, elves or dwarves, or magic, I would like to know.  I Know that many are longer, harder to read books, but I read The Two Towers in one night, so I can read the longer ones.  I also know that there is a book or series similar to LOTR (similar characters, conflicts), but I don't know what it is called.
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Post by: wyvern on 9 August 2010, 15:49:16
Funny I'm writing a book with goblins elves etc... a book I suggest though its not about fantasy is something from the Biggles series, I'll try to read find some more stuff
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Post by: John.d.h on 9 August 2010, 22:56:16
Hmm... I haven't actually finished a novel since about 2004... but if you're looking for just "good fantasy storylines", rather than specifically restricting your search to just books, I'd recommend the "Under the Burning Suns" campaign for Battle for Wesnoth.  It's got the best storyline of any campaign I've ever played, from any genre of game, even soundly beating commercial games (Note: Wesnoth is community-developed FOSS), and the gameplay and storyline play off of each other in a way that's seemless and beautiful.  Plus, the ending totally kicks ass and it's overall a very fun game to play.  It's a pretty hard campaign, and if you're not already a fairly experienced Wesnoth player, it'll probably kick your ass, but boy howdy is it awesome.
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Post by: Omega on 9 August 2010, 23:13:08
Hey, does anybody know of good fantasy book/series selections?  I have read LOTR, some Lloyd Alexander (don't really like him), Suzanne Collins, Eragon and other basic ones... if you can find it in the middle school library, I have either passed it by (sometimes unjustly), or read it.  Mostly read it.  But if you know of any good fantasy involving orcs, elves or dwarves, or magic, I would like to know.  I Know that many are longer, harder to read books, but I read The Two Towers in one night, so I can read the longer ones.  I also know that there is a book or series similar to LOTR (similar characters, conflicts), but I don't know what it is called.
TERRY BROOKS! Any book by Terry Brooks (that's the author). He is a master. Start with his first series, the Sword of Shannarah (sp?) and all his books basically take place in the same area at different times. Either way, he is probably one of my favorite writers, and my dad and some of my friends will certainly agree with me! This is probably the closest thing EVER to LOTR, and should NOT be overlooked. Dunno how many books he has, but I own at least 10 and have read others from libraries/friends.

Also, the inheritance series (Eragon, Eldest, Brisinger, and an unknown 4th book that I want so bad) is very good.

Harry Potter may seem like an unlikely choice, and may not be waht you have in mind, but don't pass it over, the series is excellent.
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Post by: John.d.h on 9 August 2010, 23:54:54
Bleh.  I don't care for Terry Brooks.  "The Sword of Shannara" copied way too much from LotR for my tastes.  Take the main group for example.  What do we have?  A dwarf (Gimli), an elf (Legolas), two quaint peasant folk (Frodo and Samwise), a ranger (Strider), a human warrior (Boromir), a wise old magic guy (Gandalf)... yeah, the only difference is that the main protagonist and his brother aren't hobbits.  Plus, it was way longer than it needed to be, in my opinion.  I read one of his later books (the one with the airships) and it was decent, but not something I'd go out of my way to find.

Mark's tastes are clearly different from mine, though.  When I was around that age, I loved Lloyd Alexander's work.
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Post by: Omega on 10 August 2010, 01:17:44
I dunno, I always found him to be excellent. While its true that it isn't that disimilar to LOTR, that's partially what Mark wanted, and personally, that raises two points that I see.

1. LOTR set a lot of standards. Most stereotypes and standards for fantasy, while not necessarily created by LOTR, were largly enforced by it. Overally, LOTR covered a lot of the fantasy genre. It'd be hard to write a book that's not at least SOMEWHAT similar to it without it becoming totally alien (if you wrote a book where dwarfs are big, tall, lean men with pointy ears, it'd probably be criticized for that because people are used to dwarfs being short, stubby men, thanks to LOTR.

2. LOTR was awesome. Doesn't that make Sword of Shannarah awesome too?

It's worth noting that Sword of Shannarah was the first book he wrote, and the other books in its same series are excellent too. Personally, Elf Stones of Shannarah (I do believe that was the direct sequel to Sword, though taking place in the future, with new characters, abet, related) was the best book, and one of the best fantasy books of all time too. Wishsong was good too. The other Shannarah series were less related, but still quite good. Allanon (sp?) is really the only character who reappears in all the books because he
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All in all, whether or not you agree that it copied some elements, it is still a good book.
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Post by: Mark on 14 August 2010, 21:50:36
Okay.  I suppose I failed to convey my opinion of Lloyd Alexander.  I only remember one of his books (the high king), which is the last book in a series (I didn't read the other ones because this book was a gift), but I think I have read several others by him.  The High King was good, but way to short.  I also had trouble with the Gothic namings e.g. Gwythaints (Hawks), Caer Dallben (A city), Fflewddur Fflam (A bard), and Dyrnwyn (The magical sword).  However, I think all fantasy books should have at least some Gothic names cause they sound 'kickass' if I may borrow your speech style.  I want to read the rest of his books too.  The reason I don't like Lloyd Alexander as much is because his books are shorter than other books that I like to read.

TERRY BROOKS! Any book by Terry Brooks (that's the author). He is a master. Start with his first series, the Sword of Shannarah (sp?) and all his books basically take place in the same area at different times. Either way, he is probably one of my favorite writers, and my dad and some of my friends will certainly agree with me! This is probably the closest thing EVER to LOTR, and should NOT be overlooked. Dunno how many books he has, but I own at least 10 and have read others from libraries/friends.
I don't know if you are saying that Terry Brooks is the author I was looking for or you were clarifying yourself.  I think my schools library has some of his books, though I have never seen his name... funny.  I will look into him.  Thanks.

Bleh.  I don't care for Terry Brooks.  "The Sword of Shannara" copied way too much from LotR for my tastes.  Take the main group for example.  What do we have?  A dwarf (Gimli), an elf (Legolas), two quaint peasant folk (Frodo and Samwise), a ranger (Strider), a human warrior (Boromir), a wise old magic guy (Gandalf)... yeah, the only difference is that the main protagonist and his brother aren't hobbits.  Plus, it was way longer than it needed to be, in my opinion.  I read one of his later books (the one with the airships) and it was decent, but not something I'd go out of my way to find.
Do they really have the same names for the exact same characters?  That is interesting, though not necessarily a turn-off.  A mark of this authors originality, maybe, but not the entertainment the book will provide.

Harry Potter may seem like an unlikely choice, and may not be waht you have in mind, but don't pass it over, the series is excellent.
I have read some of it.  It seems to have a very unlikable character (though many books start out that way).  Also, I never understood why Harry Potter decides to wear huge glasses forever when he has magic at his disposal!  ::)  Also, I would say that the target audience is girls, not boys, and certainly not 13 year-old kids.  More like 8-9 years old.
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Post by: John.d.h on 14 August 2010, 23:56:53
Okay.  I suppose I failed to convey my opinion of Lloyd Alexander.  I only remember one of his books (the high king), which is the last book in a series (I didn't read the other ones because this book was a gift), but I think I have read several others by him.  The High King was good, but way to short.  I also had trouble with the Gothic namings e.g. Gwythaints (Hawks), Caer Dallben (A city), Fflewddur Fflam (A bard), and Dyrnwyn (The magical sword).  However, I think all fantasy books should have at least some Gothic names cause they sound 'kickass' if I may borrow your speech style.  I want to read the rest of his books too.  The reason I don't like Lloyd Alexander as much is because his books are shorter than other books that I like to read.
A ton of the names are straight out of Celtic mythology, many of them Welsh.  Wales has, shall we say, "interesting" phonetics.  The books are probably kinda short, as I remember reading the whole series of five books over a four-day span, back when I was something of a bookworm.

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Do they really have the same names for the exact same characters?  That is interesting, though not necessarily a turn-off.  A mark of this authors originality, maybe, but not the entertainment the book will provide.
No, I meant that they were essentially the same characters as in LotR, just renamed and less interesting.  I can't actually remember what any of them are called.
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Post by: Omega on 15 August 2010, 01:38:31
Well, the main character of Sword of Shannarah was Shea, accompanied by his (step) brother Flick. Alanon is a druid, and there's a number of other characters, some who's names are slipping my mind, and some who I am mixing up with the other books in the series, since he often uses the same line of families (ie: the main character in the elf stones of shannarah is the son of Shea, from the Sword of Shannarah). But there was definately a Leah in Sword of Shannarah (possibly Menion Leah?).

Regardless, you will enjoy the books, I should think. I've read through most of his books multiple times and they're still very good.
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Post by: Mark on 21 August 2010, 00:11:22
Thank you.  I enjoy most books I read.
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Post by: Omega on 26 August 2010, 22:34:05
Jee, back to school. First day today, so I'm boggled down with this schedule:
P1: English
P2: Chemistry
P3: [Days 1,3,5] Phys Ed / [Days 2,6] Theater / [Day 4] Study Period (WTF?)
P4: MathA30
P5: Physics (I <3 Physics!)

That's just semister 1... No history till Sem 2... :'(

How's your guy's school starting (if it has started yet)?



Interesting... Google... phone?

http://www.google.com/chat/voice/

Hey, it has free Canada/US calls, I gotta try it sometime... Though I wonder how good VoIP technology would work on my internet...
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Post by: ultifd on 26 August 2010, 22:42:02
Interesting... Google... phone?

http://www.google.com/chat/voice/

Hey, it has free Canada/US calls, I gotta try it sometime... Though I wonder how good VoIP technology would work on my internet...
Hmm, I think started last year, but now it is integrated to Gmail, nice.
Yep, free for now. Maybe I should try too...

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Post by: Loronal on 31 August 2010, 17:22:45
Hey, does anybody know of good fantasy book/series selections?  I have read LOTR, some Lloyd Alexander (don't really like him), Suzanne Collins, Eragon and other basic ones... if you can find it in the middle school library, I have either passed it by (sometimes unjustly), or read it.  Mostly read it.  But if you know of any good fantasy involving orcs, elves or dwarves, or magic, I would like to know.  I Know that many are longer, harder to read books, but I read The Two Towers in one night, so I can read the longer ones.  I also know that there is a book or series similar to LOTR (similar characters, conflicts), but I don't know what it is called.
Drizzt Dourden is pretty good and all the forgotten realms books
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Post by: Mark on 1 September 2010, 21:41:51
@Phoenix: Thanks.

Just started school.  Actually, there was very little homework.  I got it done in 30 minutes.
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Post by: John.d.h on 2 September 2010, 01:14:57
I've no idea if you're into fantasy fanfic, but I really enjoyed this one: http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=30782 (http://forums.wesnoth.org/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=30782)
As I recall, it's only about 88 pages when exported to PDF, so it doesn't take tremendously long to read.  It takes place on Irdya (the world of Wesnoth), but I don't think you really need any background knowledge of the setting to enjoy/understand it.
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 2 September 2010, 10:37:30
Jee, back to school. First day today, so I'm boggled down with this schedule:

That's just semister 1... No history till Sem 2... :'(

How's your guy's school starting (if it has started yet)?

My school Started Tuesday Augest 31st. I have been having a great start already been making new friedns and such. I'm a feshman now. oh and you know what PICTURE DAY WAS THE SECOND DAY OF SCHOOL AND 3RD. like whoa wtf never heard of such a thing. Anyways cuz of school i won't be on much anymore so yea.... TODAY IS MY BIRTHDAY!!! Happy Birthday to me. I'm 15 now :D. Later I will explain my classes.
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Post by: Gabbe on 2 September 2010, 13:27:49
dang, stil some days til im 15..

ANY WAYS GZZZ!!!!
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Post by: wyvern on 2 September 2010, 20:19:58
Happy birthday, I'm a freshman too, I started the 30th though
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Post by: -Archmage- on 3 September 2010, 02:58:57
Happy birthday Stephanie! ;)



My friend finally got me to join facebook. :P

I found Elim(can't add as friend for some reason), Tiger(can't add as friend for some reason), Softcoder, and I might have found Gabbe, but I can't be sure... Can't find anyone else... There were about a million John Harvey's, and Michael Hoffman's.........
Feel free to add me.
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Post by: ultifd on 3 September 2010, 03:03:34
TODAY IS MY BIRTHDAY!!! Happy Birthday to me. I'm 15 now :D.
Happy birthday! Sorry for the late reply, late since I think its around 11:00 PM  on the east coast, but...whatever.
Good luck and have fun with school  :thumbup:
EDIT: Almost forgot to say that it is...September already! This year has been so fast...
What is kinda weird, is that where I am around, we had like the coldest summer ever...not cold, but colder then other summers...and now at the end of summer, we start to get some heat waves. Just great.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 3 September 2010, 12:38:56
Yay, the month that I'm going to Los Angelos! Gonna see Hover Dam, gonna fly a heli into the Grand Canyon, gonna see some relatives, and I'm gonna eat lots of strange food. :cheesy:
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Post by: ElimiNator on 3 September 2010, 16:15:03
Cool! Are you gona drive.  :O
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Post by: Gabbe on 3 September 2010, 16:29:41
yaya facebok pwns :P i sent you a invite ;) dont expect me to be on so much though, i am busy with other social network communities,but maybe ill be on alil more now ;)
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Post by: ultifd on 3 September 2010, 21:57:47
To the city of smog? :-/
Have fun Arch. Strange food?
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Post by: Omega on 4 September 2010, 05:35:44
There were about a million John Harvey's, and Michael Hoffman's.........
Probably because my name isn't hofman ;).

Hmph, I went back to school a while back... Junior this year, but got some 30 level classes such as math 30...
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Post by: -Archmage- on 4 September 2010, 08:09:56
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Probably because my name isn't hofman Wink.

Oh..... Well how can we find you? :|



John: Gabbe sent a friend request to a guy he thinks might be you...



Cool! Are you gona drive.  :O

Yea, probably, Mom's too young to drive... We're taking a plane down there actually...
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 4 September 2010, 13:34:40
Happy birthday Stephanie! ;)



My friend finally got me to join facebook. :P

I found Elim(can't add as friend for some reason), Tiger(can't add as friend for some reason), Softcoder, and I might have found Gabbe, but I can't be sure... Can't find anyone else... There were about a million John Harvey's, and Michael Hoffman's.........
Feel free to add me..

Thanks everyone. Uh kind of stalkerish idk how you found most ppl on here with last name and all. i just think thats a little creepy. Can i add you arch? and add everyone else somehow?
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 4 September 2010, 14:23:26
Cool! Are you gona drive.  :O

Yea, probably, Mom's too young to drive... We're taking a plane down there actually...

Wow i just realized that next year i'll be turning 16 that means i can get my driving permit and also finally get a job and i learn i could even be an EMT at that age but i would need to know CPR (already did but i need to get it renewed) and take like 190 hours of class and i will mostly in the summer and then work for the fire-department. wow i think thats soo cool. and if i wanted to go a step further i need to be an EMT for three years and other stuff to be a paramedic. ^^
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Post by: -Archmage- on 4 September 2010, 16:23:09
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Uh kind of stalkerish idk how you found most ppl on here with last name and all. i just think thats a little creepy.

I didn't stalk anybody, Gabbe told me his full name, the "V" in V-Bros stands for Vejvoda, it's right on their website. Eliminator sent me a bunch of pictures and stuff to help me learn to animate, when he went to his file system I saw the path and his username was in it, and Tiger, I think his filepath was in something I saw somewhere. For Softcoder, it says his name right on his website. John, well his username is his initials(not 100% on that though),and his Youtube username is his name(if his name is John Harvey). Omega, signed some posts with Michael Hoffert.
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Post by: John.d.h on 4 September 2010, 18:00:54
John: Gabbe sent a friend request to a guy he thinks might be you...
Not me, unless he's going by "Beverly" these days. :O

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John, well his username is his initials(not 100% on that though),and his Youtube username is his name(if his name is John Harvey).
Correct.

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Omega, signed some posts with Michael Hoffman.
You're close, but not quite. ;)
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Post by: Omega on 9 September 2010, 05:07:54
Omega, signed some posts with Michael Hoffman.
You're lack of reading ability disturbs me. Go to the Glest Guide, or military's read me, whatever, and I'm sure you'll find my proper name there ;). But, hey, you were close!



Gratz on sweet 16, Steph, though I'm quite certain you can't become an EMT without being 18 (at least not here) barring, perhaps volunteer work with registered ones.
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Post by: ultifd on 9 September 2010, 05:19:59
Well I think it was "sweet 15" but all the same gratz. Kinda...
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Post by: -Archmage- on 10 September 2010, 04:08:56
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Quote from: -Archmage- on September 04, 2010, 13:27:57
Omega, signed some posts with Michael Hoffman.
You're lack of reading ability disturbs me. Go to the Glest Guide, or military's read me, whatever, and I'm sure you'll find my proper name there Wink. But, hey, you were close!

Now I remember..... I got the name Hoffman from some movie or game and I guess I got them mixed up... :-[
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Post by: ultifd on 15 September 2010, 00:08:51
Happy belated Birthday Super Mario Bros.

Another nice one...
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/password_reuse.png)
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Post by: Gabbe on 15 September 2010, 13:21:08
Hehe lol, i understood that one quite well actually :)
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Post by: Omega on 19 September 2010, 01:49:20
My turn!
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/orbiter.png)

Ok, most of you won't get this. Basically, the tutition costs in texas are apparently so high that college students are migrating in swarms to the cheaper northern states.
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Post by: John.d.h on 19 September 2010, 02:02:20
Ok, most of you won't get this. Basically, the tutition costs in texas are apparently so high that college students are migrating in swarms to the cheaper northern states.
Huh... okay.  I just took it to mean how everybody thinks of Oklahoma as something like Texas' little brother. ;D
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Post by: Gabbe on 29 September 2010, 13:55:58
In a candid interview by the Norwegian men's magazine Alfa, a group of Norwegian soldiers currently serving in Afghanistan claim that 'fighting feels better than sex' and that they only enlisted for a chance to participate in 'real' battles. 'This is exactly how it should be,' one of the soldiers said, 'you only ship out to Afghanistan in order to get a taste of real war, you don't go there to save the world.'
The magazine also claimed that the Norwegians were looking to avenge the deaths of their fallen comrades, and had painted death-threats on the housewalls of those Afghans they suspected of collaborating with the Taleban. It was rumoured that some Afghans had already been killed in retaliation for the deaths of Norwegian servicemen.

The Norwegian Ministry of Defence admitted that the soldiers' comments were 'devastating.'

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics/browse_thread/thread/823afa1ce770d4ef
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Post by: Omega on 29 September 2010, 16:16:14
In a candid interview by the Norwegian men's magazine Alfa, a group of Norwegian soldiers currently serving in Afghanistan claim that 'fighting feels better than sex' and that they only enlisted for a chance to participate in 'real' battles. 'This is exactly how it should be,' one of the soldiers said, 'you only ship out to Afghanistan in order to get a taste of real war, you don't go there to save the world.'
The magazine also claimed that the Norwegians were looking to avenge the deaths of their fallen comrades, and had painted death-threats on the housewalls of those Afghans they suspected of collaborating with the Taleban. It was rumoured that some Afghans had already been killed in retaliation for the deaths of Norwegian servicemen.

The Norwegian Ministry of Defence admitted that the soldiers' comments were 'devastating.'

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics/browse_thread/thread/823afa1ce770d4ef
Oi! Though, there's no denying that some people do just want to join the army and stuff simply to participate in a war. You can blame the addictive fun of COD for that.
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Post by: John.d.h on 29 September 2010, 19:12:09
Oi! Though, there's no denying that some people do just want to join the army and stuff simply to participate in a war. You can blame the addictive fun of COD for that.
Or consider that "America's Army" is a free game made by (duh) America's army as a recruitment tool.
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Post by: Gabbe on 29 September 2010, 23:05:30
In a candid interview by the Norwegian men's magazine Alfa, a group of Norwegian soldiers currently serving in Afghanistan claim that 'fighting feels better than sex' and that they only enlisted for a chance to participate in 'real' battles. 'This is exactly how it should be,' one of the soldiers said, 'you only ship out to Afghanistan in order to get a taste of real war, you don't go there to save the world.'
The magazine also claimed that the Norwegians were looking to avenge the deaths of their fallen comrades, and had painted death-threats on the housewalls of those Afghans they suspected of collaborating with the Taleban. It was rumoured that some Afghans had already been killed in retaliation for the deaths of Norwegian servicemen.

The Norwegian Ministry of Defence admitted that the soldiers' comments were 'devastating.'

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics/browse_thread/thread/823afa1ce770d4ef
Oi! Though, there's no denying that some people do just want to join the army and stuff simply to participate in a war. You can blame the addictive fun of COD for that.

You go tell that to archmage :P he is going to go insane!
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Post by: Gabbe on 30 September 2010, 18:24:50
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-ruqAY7Dpw

Purely awesome 3d work, I cant wait till i get to teeside, if i get there tho :P
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Post by: Omega on 1 October 2010, 18:55:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-ruqAY7Dpw

Purely awesome 3d work, I cant wait till i get to teeside, if i get there tho :P
Meh, 3DSMax... Besides, I learn new things about blender every time I check out their wiki (or even from our tool board).
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Post by: Gabbe on 2 October 2010, 08:34:43
Im better in blender than 3ds, but i have to learn 3ds as it is what the market uses. and my education is game design.
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Post by: John.d.h on 3 October 2010, 04:16:07
This is a friendly reminder to back up your important files.  I had a bit of a scare this afternoon. :scared:
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Post by: -Archmage- on 3 October 2010, 06:06:22
Im better in blender than 3ds, but i have to learn 3ds as it is what the market uses. and my education is game design.

How much money is a usable version of 3Ds Max?
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Post by: John.d.h on 3 October 2010, 06:18:29
http://store.autodesk.com/store?SiteID=adsk&Locale=en_US&Action=DisplayProductDetailsPage&productID=185164700&pgm=12938000&ThemeID=1293100&Currency=USD&resid=XnpkmAoBAlkAADqfySkAAAAf&rests=1286086591448 (http://store.autodesk.com/store?SiteID=adsk&Locale=en_US&Action=DisplayProductDetailsPage&productID=185164700&pgm=12938000&ThemeID=1293100&Currency=USD&resid=XnpkmAoBAlkAADqfySkAAAAf&rests=1286086591448)

Over three grand.
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Post by: Gabbe on 3 October 2010, 11:10:07
Depends which version and which economic state your at. As a student, i got it for free lifetime from my uhm.. academy? high school? wte..
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Post by: Omega on 3 October 2010, 18:11:07
Depends which version and which economic state your at. As a student, i got it for free lifetime from my uhm.. academy? high school? wte..
Interesting... Though, Blender is free, and I'd rather support a free program than a commercial program. May the open source forever rule!
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Post by: Gabbe on 3 October 2010, 20:49:55
Depends which version and which economic state your at. As a student, i got it for free lifetime from my uhm.. academy? high school? wte..
Interesting... Though, Blender is free, and I'd rather support a free program than a commercial program. May the open source forever rule!

Me 2 supportz blender! But i need to make a living 2
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Post by: -Archmage- on 4 October 2010, 19:37:38
Depends which version and which economic state your at. As a student, i got it for free lifetime from my uhm.. academy? high school? wte..
Interesting... Though, Blender is free, and I'd rather support a free program than a commercial program. May the open source forever rule!

Me 2 supportz blender! But i need to make a living 2

Well, then how about finding gaming companies that let you use blender... :P
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Post by: ultifd on 5 October 2010, 02:56:36
Happy Belated Birthday to the Flintstones...  :O
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Post by: Gabbe on 5 October 2010, 20:49:29
Depends which version and which economic state your at. As a student, i got it for free lifetime from my uhm.. academy? high school? wte..
Interesting... Though, Blender is free, and I'd rather support a free program than a commercial program. May the open source forever rule!

Me 2 supportz blender! But i need to make a living 2

Well, then how about finding gaming companies that let you use blender... :P
wrong question, I have to find a university that teaches blender, surely i would want blender to be the preferred program and the best, but i have to say that mudbox zbrush and 3ds max free license is better than one blender. No doubt, i would like blender to be the leaders right now it is 3ds, and there aint much universities here in norway, and then i dont think i would find one that teaches 3d in blender.
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Post by: Omega on 5 October 2010, 22:48:45
To be honest, blender can easily match 3DS Max, in my opinion. It's biggest downside is lack of bundled wizards and examples, but that is also an upside because it reduces filesize. Would be nice to see an optional download though that could add such things... The new version's UI looks cooler, abet, I'll have to learn it all again, plus, the export script won't work for 2.5, so we'll DEFINATELY need someone experienced with python to fix that up.
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Post by: Gabbe on 5 October 2010, 23:01:29
youll have to export the 250 file into blender 2.49 and then animate it there so it should work fine.

It doesnt matter if blender can match 3ds max, even with anim8or you can make stunning stuff, it just requires a skill with the program, like we can all agree right that 3ds max does beat blender because it got more stuff that it can do automatically, though of its 1Gb size -.- I got better skills with blender, so i get better results with blender. If i knew anim8or better, i would make better with anim8or.
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Post by: Omega on 6 October 2010, 01:07:56
youll have to export the 250 file into blender 2.49 and then animate it there so it should work fine.

It doesnt matter if blender can match 3ds max, even with anim8or you can make stunning stuff, it just requires a skill with the program, like we can all agree right that 3ds max does beat blender because it got more stuff that it can do automatically, though of its 1Gb size -.- I got better skills with blender, so i get better results with blender. If i knew anim8or better, i would make better with anim8or.
The same applies for the programs in overall. If you check out the galleries of Blender art and compare it to galleries of 3DS Max art, you'll see that both are capable of creating the same level of detail.

Examples of good Blender stuff:
A free magazine published bi monthly, where I happened to learn some epic techniques from. All articles are VERY professional! (http://www.blenderart.org/[/url)
An affiliated blender site with great tips and guides, and of course, a pretty gallery. (http://blenderartists.org/cms/content/view/15/34/)
The official gallery. Very epic. (http://www.blender.org/features-gallery/gallery/art-gallery/)
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Post by: Gabbe on 6 October 2010, 06:02:38
Yeah i know, but all programs can create stunning 3d, it just demands a little skill within the program, i think we agreed?

https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5996.0

but this move kicks butt, and made in blender :) though only 17 views doesnt sound promising for my topic :( wha :) XD

Anyone go to "The Gathering"? maybe we put up a "Glest bench" :P Currently im at HardWares bench, and one thing, when you yell "arne" inside the hall, it takes 5 seconds until everyone is yelling arna at full!

just look:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gK2-k4EEV8&feature=related
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Post by: Omega on 7 October 2010, 23:57:16
Mwhaha! The map of the internet v2 is even better than the first (for those of us who remember it)!

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/online_communities_2.png)

Quote from: Tooltip
Best trivia I learned while working on this: 'Man, Farmville is so huge! Do you realize it's the second-biggest browser-based social-networking-centered farming game in the WORLD?' Then you wait for the listener to do a double-take.

Full size version here. (http://xkcd.com/802_large/)
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Post by: ultifd on 8 October 2010, 01:45:42
Oh, it got updated.  :O
 :O
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Post by: ElimiNator on 13 October 2010, 01:53:23
 :O Funny, I never saw the first one.  :D
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Post by: Gabbe on 13 October 2010, 19:03:57
Youtube is bigger! And WoW covers 70% of the MMO market!
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Post by: Omega on 14 October 2010, 00:06:48
Youtube is bigger! And WoW covers 70% of the MMO market!
That's not necessarily true. While youtube is probably much bigger, runescape is the biggest MMO in the world, according to the world records...
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Post by: Gabbe on 14 October 2010, 00:42:26
Yea but then again I have about 20~ + acounts on runescape, and they count as 20~ + people.
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Post by: Omega on 14 October 2010, 01:10:06
But, likewise, people can have 20 + WOW accounts.  ;)

Besides, RS is waaay better than WOW. :)
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Post by: Gabbe on 14 October 2010, 01:12:20
ye they can, if they can afford it..Maybe maybe not..RS4Lyf anyways..
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Post by: Omega on 14 October 2010, 03:58:07
I thought that you can make as many WOW accounts as you want with membership? I remember a debate on RS once about that. RS is cheaper membership, but if you want membership on more than one account, you have to pay for each of them, while WOW lets you have membership on all the accounts that you own.

I don't play WOW, so I really don't know, but it all comes down to the big picture: number of accounts doesn't necessarily mean anything...
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Post by: Gabbe on 14 October 2010, 04:31:25
Yes but WOW IS BORING! There is only ONE SKILL and one way, you get to lvl 80 (90 after cataclysm?) and then its stop for you, nothing mroe to do. On rs, there you have 20-30  skills you can train! Its like a loadpack of more ways and paths you can take, each thing affecting another.

Edit by omega: Language please...
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Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 16 October 2010, 14:18:12
Yes but WOW IS BORING! There is only ONE SKILL and one way, you get to lvl 80 (90 after cataclysm?) and then its stop for you, nothing mroe to do. On rs, there you have 20-30  skills you can train! Its like a loadpack of more ways and paths you can take, each thing affecting another.

Edit by omega: Language please...

i hate WoW. plus u have to pay for it and u can't even play for free
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Post by: Gabbe on 16 October 2010, 14:36:41
Starcraft 2 on the other hand, pwns >)
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Post by: hailstone on 22 October 2010, 15:51:39
Hi all, I've sumitted my last assignment. Only a presentation for my game that I need to turn up to and a couple of exams to go.
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Post by: Omega on 22 October 2010, 19:52:24
Hi all, I've sumitted my last assignment. Only a presentation for my game that I need to turn up to and a couple of exams to go.
Awesome hailstone!

Today's XKCD:
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/los_alamos.png)
The test didn't (spoiler alert) destroy the world, but the fact that they were even doing those calculations makes theirs the coolest jobs ever.
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Post by: ultifd on 7 November 2010, 03:22:25
Hmm, people need to change their clocks soon...
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Post by: Gabbe on 7 November 2010, 08:02:59
We have already, and apple did go crazy with their Iphones :P
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Post by: ultifd on 7 November 2010, 08:04:58
Yeah, I know, but obviously I meant the people who haven't had the change yet.
Anyways, 1 hour more for people... :)
Yep, I heard about the problem with iPhone.
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Post by: Gabbe on 7 November 2010, 19:11:45
OMG = Oh my GOD!
OMFG = Oh my *** god!
rofl = rolling on the floor laughing
roflmao = Rolling on the floor laughing my arse off
Lmao = Laughing my ass of
BTW = By the way
LOL = Laughing out loud
brb = be right back
GF = Good fight/GirlFriend
HF = have fun
GL = Good Luck
GG = Good Game
yh = yeah
cya = see you
Cow Level= noob
newb = noob
nub = noob

any more?
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Post by: John.d.h on 7 November 2010, 19:33:28
I once saw a license plate that read "ZOMG HAX".
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Post by: Omega on 7 November 2010, 22:40:45
OMG = Oh my GOD!
OMFG = Oh my *** god!
rofl = rolling on the floor laughing
roflmao = Rolling on the floor laughing my arse off
Lmao = Laughing my ass of
BTW = By the way
LOL = Laughing out loud
brb = be right back
GF = Good fight/GirlFriend
HF = have fun
GL = Good Luck
GG = Good Game
yh = yeah
cya = see you
Cow Level= noob
newb = noob
nub = noob

any more?
http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Slang_dictionary

(Obvious you have runescape in mind when you thought your list up. No other game would someone level on cows...
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Post by: Gabbe on 8 November 2010, 21:15:32
Haha i was thinking on the internet in general, i wonder how internet language wil develop in 10~ years from now :D probably, we will have game language and related msn language.
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Post by: Omega on 8 November 2010, 22:03:58
Haha i was thinking on the internet in general, i wonder how internet language wil develop in 10~ years from now :D probably, we will have game language and related msn language.
I don't see it changing to be honest... We have acronyms for the most commonly used phrases. Any more than that and all conversations will end awkwardly because nobody will know what an acronym means, and be too embarrassed to ask.
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Post by: Gabbe on 8 November 2010, 22:41:49
"Hi! Wanna do something?"

"Hi wna do sumthing?"

"H wna d som?
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Post by: John.d.h on 8 November 2010, 22:48:02
What's rly bad is when these abbrev make der way n2 IRL.
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Post by: Gabbe on 8 November 2010, 22:49:33
nt rly mks it esir to spek
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Post by: Omega on 8 November 2010, 23:15:59
"Hi! Wanna do something?"

"Hi wna do sumthing?"

"H wna d som?
I swear, if people start talking like that online, I will ignore them.

For the lack of a better example, here's the best I got atm (er... at the moment):
In the MMO Runescape (which has cropped up as a topic on the board before), every now and then, some *noob* tries to ask for trades or borrowing items by saying things like (in one instance) "Barrowing wip" (translation: Borrowing whip). Needless to say, I did not lend him my whip.

And of course, to me, the most annoying acronym is "pl0x". I don't even listen to people who use it...
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Post by: Gabbe on 8 November 2010, 23:20:28
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ow07EoDIycs

watch whole :P :O
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Post by: ultifd on 13 November 2010, 04:39:58
We've added some addsense adds to the web, I hope they nobody gets angry about it, the main point of it is to pay the domain and hosting expenses we've been having, if we get some extra money we will probably spend it in alcohol.
:O But I really don't think that they would have money left over from those ads... maybe (hopefully) the ads pay for 1/4 of the cost...
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Post by: kukac2 on 14 November 2010, 18:58:32
HAXXOR = Hacksaw
LOL = Lemon , Olive , Lettuce ; Recipe of a greek salad.
WTF = Went to France
BRB = Big Red Ball
STFU = St.FU = Saint Fu, Holy leader of ninjas
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Post by: Omega on 15 November 2010, 03:01:33
HAXXOR = Hacksaw
LOL = Lemon , Olive , Lettuce ; Recipe of a greek salad.
WTF = Went to France
BRB = Big Red Ball
STFU = St.FU = Saint Fu, Holy leader of ninjas
:O :O :O
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Post by: John.d.h on 15 November 2010, 03:26:24
Hacksaw would be such a badass title for a hacker. 8)
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Post by: Gabbe on 16 November 2010, 18:55:46
Go to google and search for "Lol limewire" dont click search, click, im feeling lucky. here is:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=lol+limewire&l=1 (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=lol+limewire&l=1)
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Post by: the warlord of the reich on 16 November 2010, 20:53:56
entirley correct! i get sick of games who dont value presentation. kinda sucks!

and what kind of armor is made of "leather"? anti-thrown spoons? or does it suck up some energy from kicks and punches? lol
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Post by: John.d.h on 16 November 2010, 21:16:36
and what kind of armor is made of "leather"? anti-thrown spoons? or does it suck up some energy from kicks and punches? lol
Try stabbing a knife through the bottom of a leather boot.  Hard, isn't it?
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Post by: wyvern on 17 November 2010, 03:38:12
very true leather armor worn by crusader infantry could survive the bows and scimitars of saracen cavalrymen, so such armor is not to be underestimated, its also pretty light relative to chain or plate mail :| :|
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Post by: the warlord of the reich on 17 November 2010, 21:29:23
anti-blade leathers? pretty wierd. i would like to see one.
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Post by: wyvern on 18 November 2010, 03:24:49
some of it is due to the poor quality of saracen blades but believe it or not leather is not such a poor type of armor, especially considering its cost, and light weight
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Post by: the warlord of the reich on 18 November 2010, 03:51:03
its stats should be like this.

weigh: light
defense security: low
cost: medium-low

but i was wondering. if a piece of leather could provide a defense it should be havy and exhausting in hot weather because its a thick levels of leathers to provide limited defense against blades.

sarcans cared about their blades. since the begine of the islamic revolt. sharpening blade is a most likley tredetion to sharpen blades even when theres no incoming fights. because a sarcan would want to cut the enemy's head more then just stabbing him. its the purpose of scimiters to cut so it would be regulary sharp instead of poor even without a sarcancarrying it.
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Post by: wyvern on 18 November 2010, 19:57:54
I read reveral books that said the saracen cavalries bows and scimitars were unable to penetrate the leather and quilted jerkins worn by crusader troops, it was hot equipment in the desert but not very thick, obviously it won't help versus guns, crossbows and longbows but even plate mail won't help there, against long swords it is poor but saracen light cavalry didn't use those I think, spears could penetrate it but as I said the skirmishers weapons were usually a short bow and scimitar.
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Post by: the warlord of the reich on 18 November 2010, 21:49:19
mm. i wonder, the scimiter is for cutting. it woud just pass thru the leather. because of the bloody sharp blade.

and an arabian type of sword is better then a scimiter. scimiters were used very very few. the arabian sword is for stabbing and cutting and its light and dodgy and shrap. and leather that providess defense against any blades would VERY regulary heavy as thick. because a its levels of leathers. it would be thick like crazy and heavy and in the hot deserts near iraq it will bring its awfull effect to the user. it would surley hinder the guy wearing it because it would be like a heavy blanket. no to mention. all this only provides limited defenses. but it would bring covver against arrows and stones i'd say. a close range and a strong bow would pentrate so easy. even a chainmailwont take that!

also leather armor would suck up the energy from an attack like a kick or a punch or something like that. the user of leather wont feel all the pain from the hit
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Post by: wyvern on 18 November 2010, 22:27:36
I don't know, arabian swords might be of better quality but I'm talking the saracens an their light cavalry cavalry used almost only scimitars and short bows. As john said you should test out the strength of normal shoe leather for yourself use a shoe and put a hole through it with a knife, its not so easy an I tried it by the way.
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Post by: the warlord of the reich on 19 November 2010, 00:06:14
not easy because you stabbed it.have you? the knive is made for cutting purposes. iwhat kind of knives?

hard but not hard enough. you will be able to reach the body without too much rough work. but the leather would have soaked up the energy of the attack and you cant continue your cutting through the flesh. you'll have to strike a fatal hit toreach the skin and cut thru.
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Post by: wyvern on 19 November 2010, 03:27:13
I don't know the shoes were pretty good but old and the knife was a freshly sharpened kitchen knife. Also, realize that the quality of the weapons used by crusader and saracen alike was not the quality to be seen a couple hundred years later.
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Post by: Mark on 20 November 2010, 22:45:45
Leather is susceptible to mainly to blunt force blows and piercing wounds.  When the crusaders fought the Seljuks and Saracens, they were regularly confronted by archers and scimitar-wielding infantry.  The scimitars were not effective against the crusader broadswords, but the arrows were.  Even knights who had full hauberks of mail fell from arrow wounds in unprotected, or weakly protected areas.  And the scimitar-wielding muslims would simply stab into unprotected parts of a mail hauberk, like the armpit, where the scimitar could pierce the hardened leather jerkins. 

And about the experiment with the leather shoe, I would imagine the leather not giving at all, or at least making the job incredibly difficult.  But, with the full swing of an arm and the momentum of a horse's body carried with the hunk of metal, the leather wouldn't necessarily do so well.  And magitech does note this.  I don't know the numbers, but I know that if you had an enemy swordsman coming at your unit, all other things being equal, you would counter the swordsman with a piercing attack.  The multiplier handles leather well.
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Post by: ultifd on 21 November 2010, 08:19:25
Hmm...if anyone wants to, they can get Age of Empires III: complete collection for 10 cents...
link (http://www.gamesforwindows.com/en-CA/Games/AgeofEmpiresIII/)
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Post by: Omega on 21 November 2010, 09:28:10
Hmm...if anyone wants to, they can get Age of Empires III: complete collection for 10 cents...
link (http://www.gamesforwindows.com/en-CA/Games/AgeofEmpiresIII/)
Wow... Now there's no excuse to use an illegal version... If you can't afford a dime, you don't deserve a computer.
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Post by: the warlord of the reich on 21 November 2010, 09:34:45
that would be 47% true omega. its 47% because i agree with ultified and heres a list for some stuff made me agree:

(1) because its cheaper then th legal.
(2) ultified is a friend of mine.
(3) omega deleted some of my posts :(
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Post by: wyvern on 21 November 2010, 16:19:22
Leather is susceptible to mainly to blunt force blows and piercing wounds.  When the crusaders fought the Seljuks and Saracens, they were regularly confronted by archers and scimitar-wielding infantry.  The scimitars were not effective against the crusader broadswords, but the arrows were.  Even knights who had full hauberks of mail fell from arrow wounds in unprotected, or weakly protected areas.  And the scimitar-wielding muslims would simply stab into unprotected parts of a mail hauberk, like the armpit, where the scimitar could pierce the hardened leather jerkins. 

And about the experiment with the leather shoe, I would imagine the leather not giving at all, or at least making the job incredibly difficult.  But, with the full swing of an arm and the momentum of a horse's body carried with the hunk of metal, the leather wouldn't necessarily do so well.  And magitech does note this.  I don't know the numbers, but I know that if you had an enemy swordsman coming at your unit, all other things being equal, you would counter the swordsman with a piercing attack.  The multiplier handles leather well.
Actually the bows of the time were very weak and relied on the mass barrage hitting vulnerable points in the face or arms, the leather was more then enough to stop them, several accounts tell of soldiers marching unhurt with arrows sticking in the leather jerkins. Also the scimitars were more for slashing so their stabbing ability is in doubt, though I do agree that knives and spears could penetrate the armpits, neck and other non mail protected areas of the knights armor.
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Post by: Mark on 24 November 2010, 21:34:04
Leather is susceptible to mainly to blunt force blows and piercing wounds.  When the crusaders fought the Seljuks and Saracens, they were regularly confronted by archers and scimitar-wielding infantry.  The scimitars were not effective against the crusader broadswords, but the arrows were.  Even knights who had full hauberks of mail fell from arrow wounds in unprotected, or weakly protected areas.  And the scimitar-wielding muslims would simply stab into unprotected parts of a mail hauberk, like the armpit, where the scimitar could pierce the hardened leather jerkins. 

And about the experiment with the leather shoe, I would imagine the leather not giving at all, or at least making the job incredibly difficult.  But, with the full swing of an arm and the momentum of a horse's body carried with the hunk of metal, the leather wouldn't necessarily do so well.  And magitech does note this.  I don't know the numbers, but I know that if you had an enemy swordsman coming at your unit, all other things being equal, you would counter the swordsman with a piercing attack.  The multiplier handles leather well.
Actually the bows of the time were very weak and relied on the mass barrage hitting vulnerable points in the face or arms, the leather was more then enough to stop them, several accounts tell of soldiers marching unhurt with arrows sticking in the leather jerkins. Also the scimitars were more for slashing so their stabbing ability is in doubt, though I do agree that knives and spears could penetrate the armpits, neck and other non mail protected areas of the knights armor.
We all know stories are completely accurate, objective accounts, especially in the crusades, when emotions were fiery... ::) No.  And anyways, the short bows you talk about were composite bows.  The seljuk turks made a living shooting guys up with arrows and stealing their gold.  When they consistently beat the western powers it was when they did not engage in melee, but did parthian shot techniques, and similar movements.  And I think you are talking about padded jerkins, or brigantines.  Crusaders sometimes wore them as a cheaper alternative to mail hauberks.  Brigantines especially could absorb huge damage from slashing or piercing, because they were so tough and thick.  Yes, scimitars were for slashing mostly, but the tip was always sharp.  I do not think it would take long for an arab army to put two and two together and stab the knights in vulnerable spots.

Hmm...if anyone wants to, they can get Age of Empires III: complete collection for 10 cents...
link (http://www.gamesforwindows.com/en-CA/Games/AgeofEmpiresIII/)
It ended on the 21st.  :'(  When will they do another program like this?
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Post by: Gabbe on 25 November 2010, 00:57:21
Quote
It ended on the 21st.  Cry  When will they do another program like this?

game is awesome, just buy it for the price it costs, good community and all :D
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Post by: ultifd on 25 November 2010, 01:06:02
Thanksgiving!!!  :D
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Post by: -Archmage- on 26 November 2010, 02:09:03
I'm thankful for Crysis, MW2, women, Zevia soda, an ATI card, Glest, GAE, MG, and you guys!  :D
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Post by: ultifd on 2 December 2010, 06:16:09
Wow, it's December already.  :o Time pasts by really fast...
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Post by: -Archmage- on 2 December 2010, 12:27:04
Wow, it's December already.  :o Time pasts by really fast...

 :P It's 07:27 here, I'm a zombie because I stayed up all night playing mw2 with a random new friend.
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Post by: Gabbe on 2 December 2010, 19:54:01
Wow, it's December already.  :o Time pasts by really fast...

 :P It's 07:27 here, I'm a zombie because I stayed up all night playing mw2 with a random new friend.
I see you always, you play steam version! :P
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Post by: -Archmage- on 3 December 2010, 01:17:24
Wow, it's December already.  :o Time pasts by really fast...

 :P It's 07:27 here, I'm a zombie because I stayed up all night playing mw2 with a random new friend.
I see you always, you play steam version! :P

I don't have AlterIW on my laptop, that's why.
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Post by: Gabbe on 3 December 2010, 14:12:28
You just need a file transfer device or something ;) on the other hand, more news from AlterOps ! ye :D
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Post by: -Archmage- on 3 December 2010, 15:52:11
You just need a file transfer device or something ;) on the other hand, more news from AlterOps ! ye :D

There cheap crap never works, why are they bothering... :| I wish they'd just release it so I can play.
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Post by: Omega on 7 December 2010, 08:22:29
I just discovered the most amazing site today, and thought I'd share it with everyone else. It's the first (and so far only) computational knowledge engine, and to be honest, half an hour of playing around had me truly amazed. Basically, it's a smart type of information engine.

http://www.wolframalpha.com/

For example, I started off by throwing it one of my earlier chemistry questions: "27mg of FeSO4" (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=27mg+of+FeSO4) and it gave me the molar amount that I was looking for, and much more. And then clicking on that molar amount (which was in millimoles) gave me another page (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=0.178+millimoles&lk=1) which contained more information including the amount in the base unit moles that I was looking for. In fact, it even knew what the chemical formula was, even though I only knew it as "Iron (II) Sulfate". And trying something later, I realized simply typing "27mg of FeSO4 in moles" (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=27mg+of+FeSO4+in+moles) would have given exactly what I needed, that's how smart that engine is!

As nerdy as it sounds, it was a lot of fun to use, simply because of its amazing power.

So then I decided to test it with something not related to chemistry:
Searching "cyan" (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=cyan) gave me Hex codes and RGB codes for the color, along with other information such as complimentary colors, etc.

Making up a random quadratic equation, "y=(x-(2/3))^2+3" (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=y%3D%28x-%282%2F3%29%29^2%2B3), it managed to convert the computer type into mathmatical form and plot it out.

Making up another random math question, "2x+23/sqrt(16)=2" (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=2x%2B23%2Fsqrt%2816%29%3D2), it converted it to mathmatical form, removed the square root, solved for x, and graphed the formula.

Searching the my birthday, "may 30" (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=may+30) returned notable events, the time difference, holidays (that I never knew existed), and sun rise + sunset of my location, fine tuned down to my city.

Searching "canada" (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=canada) gave me no shortage of information from land size to unemployment percentages, to maps, to the internet code!

A search on "omega" (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=omega) refered to the character, including the language and unicode number.

Making a random string of ones and zeros in hopes of being intrepid as binary, "1010111" (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=1010111) got me the decimal number, a number line, and some very intesting facts of it (it cannot be written as the sum of 3 squares).

Searching "the sun" (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=the+sun), got me information on sunrise/set in my location, distance from the earth, temperature, estimated life expectancy, etc;

Searching "google" (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Google) got me the stock value, number of employees, web site address, location, annual revenue (that's a lot!), and a dozen other stuff you have to be a stock trader to understand (it does say that it's a "strong buy" though).

Searching "michael" (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=michael) (my name) told me it's the 3rd most popular name but expected to rise to the number 1 spot in the USA eventually.

And of course, the crown jewel, searching for "the answer to life, the universe, and everything" (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=the+answer+to+life%2C+the+universe%2C+and+everything) got me 42.



How "smart" that engine was surprised me... Mathmatical questions I've never seen a computer done, it performed instantly...

Have fun.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 7 December 2010, 08:37:49
I just discovered the most amazing site today, and thought I'd share it with everyone else. It's the first (and so far only) computational knowledge engine, and to be honest, half an hour of playing around had me truly amazed. Basically, it's a smart type of information engine.

http://www.wolframalpha.com/

For example, I started off by throwing it one of my earlier chemistry questions: "27mg of FeSO4" (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=27mg+of+FeSO4) and it gave me the molar amount that I was looking for, and much more. And then clicking on that molar amount (which was in millimoles) gave me another page (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=0.178+millimoles&lk=1) which contained more information including the amount in the base unit moles that I was looking for. In fact, it even knew what the chemical formula was, even though I only knew it as "Iron (II) Sulfate". And trying something later, I realized simply typing "27mg of FeSO4 in moles" (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=27mg+of+FeSO4+in+moles) would have given exactly what I needed, that's how smart that engine is!

As nerdy as it sounds, it was a lot of fun to use, simply because of its amazing power.

So then I decided to test it with something not related to chemistry:
Searching "cyan" (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=cyan) gave me Hex codes and RGB codes for the color, along with other information such as complimentary colors, etc.

Making up a random quadratic equation, "y=(x-(2/3))^2+3" (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=y%3D%28x-%282%2F3%29%29^2%2B3), it managed to convert the computer type into mathmatical form and plot it out.

Making up another random math question, "2x+23/sqrt(16)=2" (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=2x%2B23%2Fsqrt%2816%29%3D2), it converted it to mathmatical form, removed the square root, solved for x, and graphed the formula.

Searching the my birthday, "may 30" (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=may+30) returned notable events, the time difference, holidays (that I never knew existed), and sun rise + sunset of my location, fine tuned down to my city.

Searching "canada" (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=canada) gave me no shortage of information from land size to unemployment percentages, to maps, to the internet code!

A search on "omega" (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=omega) refered to the character, including the language and unicode number.

Making a random string of ones and zeros in hopes of being intrepid as binary, "1010111" (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=1010111) got me the decimal number, a number line, and some very intesting facts of it (it cannot be written as the sum of 3 squares).

Searching "the sun" (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=the+sun), got me information on sunrise/set in my location, distance from the earth, temperature, estimated life expectancy, etc;

Searching "google" (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Google) got me the stock value, number of employees, web site address, location, annual revenue (that's a lot!), and a dozen other stuff you have to be a stock trader to understand (it does say that it's a "strong buy" though).

Searching "michael" (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=michael) (my name) told me it's the 3rd most popular name but expected to rise to the number 1 spot in the USA eventually.

And of course, the crown jewel, searching for "the answer to life, the universe, and everything" (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=the+answer+to+life%2C+the+universe%2C+and+everything) got me 42.



How "smart" that engine was surprised me... Mathmatical questions I've never seen a computer done, it performed instantly...

Have fun.
It's powerful, but not that powerful... (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=4796*29348756*2345*2452*24524*34*365*12*3*245243%2f4596.3457942*35.29835467&asynchronous=pod&s=21&incTime=true)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 7 December 2010, 09:18:31
Wadda ya mean "not that powerful"? It calculated that fine for me:
1.670075723... × 10^31
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 7 December 2010, 11:00:42
Wadda ya mean "not that powerful"? It calculated that fine for me:
1.670075723... × 10^31
Yea, it gives the result but it didn't give anything else, I thought it was supposed to give more than just an answer. It says "Computation timed out. No more results available.".


I stayed up till 4:45'ish tonight, and I kept dozing off and waking up in bed, then I realized I felt really woozy. Ended up spending my morning puking out slightly burnt blueberry-apple crisp. :green: Now it's 6:00, bleh.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 7 December 2010, 14:11:02
At first, it think Glest is an airport in Spain, then as a word, it things it is old english :D

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Glest&a=*C.Glest-_*Word- (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Glest&a=*C.Glest-_*Word-)
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Glest (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Glest)

Cool tool though, definately helps when Im having to prepare for school stuff :D
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 7 December 2010, 23:25:05
I stayed up till 4:45'ish tonight, and I kept dozing off and waking up in bed, then I realized I felt really woozy. Ended up spending my morning puking out slightly burnt blueberry-apple crisp. :green: Now it's 6:00, bleh.
Hmm...try to get some more sleep.  :thumbup: I should too...a few days ago I slept at 6ish and woke up at 7ish. I guess it was more of a nap for me...  :dead:
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 8 December 2010, 06:22:06
At first, it think Glest is an airport in Spain, then as a word, it things it is old english :D

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Glest&a=*C.Glest-_*Word- (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Glest&a=*C.Glest-_*Word-)
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Glest (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=Glest)

Cool tool though, definately helps when Im having to prepare for school stuff :D
That's because its a computational engine, not a search engine. It searches the internet for information and smartly analyzes it, and Glest doesn't really fit into that at all, nor is it really well known enough to appear in the engine.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: hailstone on 13 December 2010, 22:18:24
I graduated from my degree yesterday. It is a Bachelor of Games and Interactive Entertainment, software technologies major. I'll be finishing up my casual work this week, so I should have a fair amount of time to work on Glest while I look for full-time employment.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 13 December 2010, 22:30:46
Wow, great to hear such good news  :O
Good luck on finding a full time job.  :thumbup: I wonder what or who you'll working with/for, when that time comes...
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 13 December 2010, 22:33:33
I hope when you have yoour full time job then you can still work on GAE, but its your choice/future :P Gratulationz!
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 14 December 2010, 21:58:53
If you ever had a account at a Gawker site...better reset/change it...and once they let people to delete their accounts, maybe do that too...
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 14 December 2010, 22:13:12
Congratulations Hailstone! I wish you the best of luck with your future career, and am glad to hear you'll have more time for GAE too. Be sure to mention GAE on your resume, as its a great engine and shows your accomplished programming skills.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 2 January 2011, 16:40:38
oh well lol, i guess there is a new bot for this version of forums...so thats why the mass receive of spam.. also reported.

This can be removed. <done titi>
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: the warlord of the reich on 2 January 2011, 23:30:59
news topics has been locked, i want to know the news here, whats the news and events
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 3 January 2011, 06:40:33
news topics has been locked, i want to know the news here, whats the news and events
What news topic? :confused:
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 3 January 2011, 07:10:40
news topics has been locked, i want to know the news here, whats the news and events

Sometimes when i post topics they disappear, maybe because the server didnt receave them or something. Also this might have happened if you were posting two topics simultaneously and then misclicked somewere.

EDIT: wait, locked? were? I cant find it? you surely ment closed right?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: the warlord of the reich on 3 January 2011, 08:30:59
the admins pillled it up with an another topic, check locked topics in offtopic section, ABOMNATION AND TREACHERY!
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 3 January 2011, 14:02:12
the admins pillled it up with an another topic, check locked topics in offtopic section, ABOMNATION AND TREACHERY!
I found no hint of any topic like this merged into another here, and never heard of the original topic you refer to. Please control yourself, and prove a reference.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: wyvern on 3 January 2011, 20:27:04
the admins pillled it up with an another topic, check locked topics in offtopic section, ABOMNATION AND TREACHERY!
Warlord, most of the locked topics are locked because they are inappropriate, the members argue too much on it, or it is completely OT and could be posted in the general Off topic section, honestly, with the exception of a few, most of your topics were things that can be posted in the general OT section.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: the warlord of the reich on 3 January 2011, 23:09:15
like talking crap of "my topics igniting relegious and national stuff" and saying "they're all the exact same" what does soundtrackshas to do with news? and what weather has to do with games? sheesh. seriously this pisses me off to know they left an other topic like mine roling. this was personal.... not otherwise "responsbility"

but i seek just an answer and more then that. i'll consider nothing happened if i get an answer about why this occured
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 3 January 2011, 23:24:27
like talking crap of "my topics igniting relegious and national stuff" and saying "they're all the exact same" what does soundtrackshas to do with news? and what weather has to do with games? sheesh. seriously this pisses me off to know they left an other topic like mine roling. this was personal.... not otherwise "responsbility"

but i seek just an answer and more then that. i'll consider nothing happened if i get an answer about why this occured
Which topics? Examples go further than just ranting.

The weather topic ended up getting spammy, and I already gave reasoning for the sound track topic.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: the warlord of the reich on 3 January 2011, 23:37:09
you dident.  give it again with more clearity

https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=6184.0

HAH read it carefully....
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 3 January 2011, 23:48:15
https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=6184.0
That's the topic you were refering to? That was locked for violating one of the OT board's most important rules: Stop These Kind of Topics (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5816.0)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 5 January 2011, 17:35:27
(http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/1128598578_fyf9N-L.jpg) (http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/12/17/)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 5 January 2011, 17:59:55
 :O i loled

A showreel a frined of mine made:

http://www.evengi.no/Evengi/Gallery_files/Media/Reel2010Web.mov

The more u watch it, the more chances of him getting a job is. cheers.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 16 January 2011, 08:03:39
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/chess_photo.png) (http://xkcd.com/chesscoaster/)
I know it's really big, but it's also funny  :O

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/cheap_gps.png)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 16 January 2011, 20:47:39
Speaking of that one, Ultifd, have you seen the pictures of real life people doing that on Rollar Coasters? There should be a link to those in the About section of xkcd.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 16 January 2011, 21:07:26
Yep, that's why I linked it to the image  :O
If I did that the pieces would probably fall off...  :P
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 31 January 2011, 15:44:38
(http://img.gfx.no/790/790923/ArborNetworksEgyptvisualisationsmall.jpg)

:o
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: the warlord of the reich on 31 January 2011, 18:08:40
rebellion in egypt caused government to cut of internet. i saw it at the news.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 1 February 2011, 05:20:01
Thats more hurting than helpfull, Egypt has a big part of their economy tightened to the internet. RT says that someone has started this conflict. Some says it is the USA i doubt that though, the Egyptian president is a close ally of the united states.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 2 February 2011, 07:20:43
I hope sourceforge is OK and that they will be online soon...  :-X

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCbLgvO4pSs
Cool Video! and it also features Glest too!
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: the warlord of the reich on 2 February 2011, 16:00:28
actually this helps the egyptian government. rebells cant contact eachother now. they surelly use couriers and letters by their own to contact. they've already reached the government building and blocked it.

Edit: a battle has just occured. the people were at the streets as all days rebelling and mobbing up. mobarak hired lots of mercnaries riding camels and horses and sent them to clear of the rebels. ended up in killing and fighting. rebels built field hospitals to cure the wounded. casualties are yet to list. the fighting goes on.....

sevrel rebels killed. then both sides started bombarding eachother with stones. mobarak's cavalry killed sevrel people and wounded alot. yet they have been pushed off their mounts. rebels beaten up evrey one they catched pretty good. Please don't double post. -Ultifd
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 3 February 2011, 02:40:34
sounds fun...everyone here up is whining that now they can`t go to vacation..
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: the warlord of the reich on 3 February 2011, 19:01:59
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHIIIIIIIWOOOOOOOOOOYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IM THE FIRST AND BESTEST SHOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I IS GOT 1ST PLACE IN THE TEST RESULTS OF THIS YEAR!!!!!1 WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW YAY YAAAAAY IM THE FIRST ONE ON MY STUPID CLASS!!! SPIT THAT ON THE FACE OF AL MY CLASS MATES :D CANT SEE THE LOOKS ON THEIR FACES WHEN THEY SEE THE PAPERS! THEY'LL DIE OUT OF GREED IM SO 100% SURE

sorry for the epic post. could'nt take my fingers off they keyboard :O
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 3 February 2011, 21:50:42
WHat test about? Islam, maths, science?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: the warlord of the reich on 3 February 2011, 22:29:52
all of them mate, a series of tests for about tow weeks. you try to earn 30 degrees. the questions are around 45-25 question, easy tests like arabic language. are one page of questions. hard ones are like 3-5 pages. i got highest degrees then evreyone in my class. looks like my competetior ahmed will be seriously pissed off 8)

math is quiet hard but i got great degrees. science is nearly impossible..... about 200 pages in the book. we extract suspected things from the pages and study them. islam is easy. although hadeth is abit hard. others are easy. i win first one.... last year i got 10th place from 20. dont envy me! it brings bad luck, say mashallah.... i dont want an eye on me that i lose all my gifts....
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 3 February 2011, 22:33:18
Gratz :)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 4 February 2011, 00:47:32
Microsoft's Bing uses Google search results--and denies it (http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/02/microsofts-bing-uses-google-search.html)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 4 February 2011, 05:26:21
Yeah, I heard about that.

Oh yeah, I forgot it's the new year for some people... Happy Chinese New Year! Another new year  :D  :O
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: hailstone on 4 February 2011, 08:16:33
Bing's reponse (http://www.bing.com/community/site_blogs/b/search/archive/2011/02/01/thoughts-on-search-quality.aspx) and an interview about the Egypt internet (http://spectrum.ieee.org/podcast/telecom/internet/egypt-goes-offline) if anyones interested.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 4 February 2011, 19:00:58
Bah, serves Bing right. Google has always dominated the market, and shall continue to do so.



I probably shouldn't reply to the egypt crisis as I don't really know what's going on well, but the way I see it, if the government is evil enough to turn off the internet for everyone in the country, then they should be ousted immediately. As well, if this many people want the government to step down... Well, I always side with what the people want. Otherwise, it's not democracy.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 9 February 2011, 04:28:19
Jules Verne FTW... Happy Birthday, Jules Verne!
Cool Google Doodle today...  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Hagekura on 9 February 2011, 04:42:51
"Vingt mille lieues sous les mers" is a my first time read Sci-fi novel.Happy Birthday, Jules Verne!  :angel:
haha Google guys always do cool stuffs.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 19 February 2011, 20:46:22
I unlocked the new Dragon title! Is there any more? Dark Dragon? :bomb:
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 19 February 2011, 23:03:07
10k posts i think :P
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 19 February 2011, 23:04:21
Dragon? But you hate Dragons ;)
Gratz, I guess.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 19 February 2011, 23:06:01
Man i just thought, What if dark dragon actually is the highest title now, then u have ruined Omegas suprise  :look:

I guess we`ll see after another year or some, when you`ve spammed urself to the post count :P
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 19 February 2011, 23:31:00
Dragon? But you hate Dragons ;)
Gratz, I guess.

I hate dragons?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 19 February 2011, 23:33:32
Dragon? But you hate Dragons ;)
Gratz, I guess.
I hate dragons?
I meant Romanian Dragons...
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 19 February 2011, 23:48:31
Dragon? But you hate Dragons ;)
Gratz, I guess.
I hate dragons?
I meant Romanian Dragons...

Uhm.......wha?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 19 February 2011, 23:56:02
Romanian Dragon=The Gold Eagle that was in the Romans faction=You didn't really like it...
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 20 February 2011, 00:58:57
Oh. :O
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 20 February 2011, 03:33:11
No, the next level is not dark dragon. I didn't want to base this on the Megapack, and it would be too easy to guess anyway. You'll see for yourself in about 2500 posts.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: the warlord of the reich on 20 February 2011, 21:37:39
i realy want that history topic unlocked now! i dident propaganda! i was answering the angry dude's question, evreyone has something to follow! keep your noses out of my territory because i diden't bother angry you for what you are! free that topic.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 20 February 2011, 21:43:48
From now on, just send PMs to Wyvern.. There, problem solved.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 20 February 2011, 22:00:32
i realy want that history topic unlocked now! i dident propaganda! i was answering the angry dude's question, evreyone has something to follow! keep your noses out of my territory because i diden't bother angry you for what you are! free that topic.
No part of the board is "your territory". Your attitude right now is not helping the situation. It will remain locked until we decide it should be unlocked, if ever. This is the GLEST board. If you just come here to talk about things other than Glest, let me redirect you to another forum (http://www.offtopicz.com/).

For the record, though, Private Messages are not the way to go either. The "things not to post about" do apply to private messages as well. The Glest Board is not a place to spread racial discrimination. If you must do it, take it outside of this board. Someplace where the domain name is not "glest.org". Private messages are reportable, and have been reported before, namely one from you. Please do not abuse the PM system.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 20 February 2011, 22:02:19
I was going to consider unlocking it, but it seems I'm not the only one who prefers it to be closed.  Thus, it will remain so (at least for now).
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 20 February 2011, 22:55:36
o.O  :-X
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 21 February 2011, 07:42:31
Pretty please unlock it sometime, it was fun to watch. :(
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 21 February 2011, 07:46:54
I hope you're being sarcastic, because "fun" isn't worth it when things got ugly. At other situations, perhaps; but obviously not in this situation. (By other situations I mean certain previous debates that also got out of hand.)
You can just look for a troll in that "OT Forum", there's your fun.  :angel:

Do you like "filefront" better or "gamefront" better? I think I kinda liked filefront better, it's uploading interface was better too. Oh well.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 21 February 2011, 12:12:12
Doesn`t matter if it get out of hand, I want 4chan in here!! (JK :P)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 22 February 2011, 05:32:12
Quote
You can just look for a troll in that "OT Forum", there's your fun.

I believe he's already discovered himself...
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 22 February 2011, 07:04:53
Happy Birthday, The Legend of Zelda.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 22 February 2011, 11:43:23
Happy Birthday, The Legend of Zelda.

Whoa! :o Really? AWESOME!!! 8)
(Huge Zelda Fan here)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 22 February 2011, 11:49:39
huge massive and fat? :P
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 24 February 2011, 05:55:48
My house had a power failure today. I wonder what caused it.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 24 February 2011, 17:59:31
My house had a power failure today. I wonder what caused it.

Looks suspiciously at Gabbe's grinning face...
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Post by: Gabbe on 24 February 2011, 18:32:20
HAHA XD

us didnt do it no..

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_0YTZJpJ8Jp8/SJ5hOp3iUPI/AAAAAAAADPA/FZuV7Cu-Lic/s400/i-ar-inosent-test-teh-dna.jpg)

In other news:


HehehehhehehehhehehehehehhehakamuiodhuaihdaydfuioahdaGROARGH!!! jk ;)

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Post by: -Archmage- on 24 February 2011, 18:36:18
Troll. Omega, can you give gabbe that as a title instead of a Glest unit?
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Post by: Gabbe on 24 February 2011, 18:59:31
lol im dead serious :|





hrhrhrhrhhrhrhrhh derp derp derp
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Post by: Gabbe on 25 February 2011, 14:07:08
mehehehe I LOVE my new title, appreciated Omega :P
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Post by: the warlord of the reich on 25 February 2011, 15:09:44
sorry for the late replie but, my territory isnt your site, you must understand me before you dare make comment-unworthy words, that i said bieng a guy who considers hitler his idol, ok so? i like him, but THATS MY TERRITORY! and when some angry brainless fool shows up saying "you ffollow the reich???????????????" i say "yes" then he starts bieng angry of me for actually no point, he dident read up some history, knew facts, he is 100% a typical person, most likely american, they speak blah all the time.

i respectfully request adminstrator archmage to unlock my topic, appearentlu it was locked by will's acts of rude. nor i was spreadimng propagnda.
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Post by: Gabbe on 25 February 2011, 15:12:44
I think u mad bro! U mad? I think he mad..
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Post by: Omega on 25 February 2011, 16:46:06
sorry for the late replie but, my territory isnt your site, you must understand me before you dare make comment-unworthy words, that i said bieng a guy who considers hitler his idol, ok so? i like him, but THATS MY TERRITORY! and when some angry brainless fool shows up saying "you ffollow the reich???????????????" i say "yes" then he starts bieng angry of me for actually no point, he dident read up some history, knew facts, he is 100% a typical person, most likely american, they speak blah all the time.
You're not helping your situation...

i respectfully request adminstrator archmage to unlock my topic, appearentlu it was locked by will's acts of rude. nor i was spreadimng propagnda.
I can assure you it was very much you who got the topic locked, not will.
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Post by: Gabbe on 25 February 2011, 17:14:14
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sorry for the late replie but, my territory isnt your site, you must understand me before you dare make comment-unworthy words, that i said bieng a guy who considers hitler his idol, ok so? i like him, but THATS MY TERRITORY! and when some angry brainless fool shows up saying "you ffollow the reich???????????????" i say "yes" then he starts bieng angry of me for actually no point, he dident read up some history, knew facts, he is 100% a typical person, most likely american, they speak blah all the time.

Your territory wtf? If you express your opinions here on the forums you have to understand that then it is our issue aswell. If you consider some people to be genetically superior you have to be REALLY stupid, and no im not joking. Fact is, there is a equal amount of difference between a american and a zulu as there is between a somalian and a zulu. The difference in genetics is barely noticeable. That you fail to understand genetics is a valid point, because of the fact i just stated. And stating that "He american he speaks blah all the time" is a awfull generalization of the american population, yes some may be dumb as heck, but some are plain out geniouses aswell. Basing your arguments of only a cliche about that "americans only speaks blah" is not good argumentation and certainly your only basing it off thin air. How do you know he didn`t read up on history? Let me guess, you didn`t so then that is falsified. Let me end this with one word.
Godwin.
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Post by: John.d.h on 25 February 2011, 17:47:43
That's enough, kids.
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Post by: ultifd on 25 February 2011, 18:10:37
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/trolling.png)
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Post by: Gabbe on 25 February 2011, 18:22:51
Aren`t us awesome? We r betar dan u others!
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Post by: ultifd on 25 February 2011, 18:52:53
OK Omega I guess you better remove the troll description...that gives them an excuse, I guess.
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Post by: will on 25 February 2011, 18:58:30
On the joelonsoftware forum, deleted posts were still visible to the poster, so they rarely realised they were deleted. And banned people could still post, just they were invisible.   They just didn't get the attention they craved and they left.
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Post by: Mr War on 25 February 2011, 19:29:08
How come it says Will is the last poster in this thread but I cannot see any post from him?

Anyways, glest board should not be a place where people openly support Nazism, if it were allowed to continue it could stain the community and the game
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Post by: wyvern on 25 February 2011, 21:03:42
How come it says Will is the last poster in this thread but I cannot see any post from him?

Anyways, glest board should not be a place where people openly support Nazism, if it were allowed to continue it could stain the community and the game
I agree, and for the record, while I did argue, I would far prefer a historical topic where you can post facts about history, this would be fun for history lovers like me and useful for people making historical mods since they could find data there
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Post by: Mr War on 25 February 2011, 21:34:27
There was a lot in that thread which wasn't fact man, or facts out of context. Not saying you man, just saying some people might do to read more and imagine less
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Post by: Omega on 25 February 2011, 23:27:04
OK Omega I guess you better remove the troll description...that gives them an excuse, I guess.
Heh, the Gabbe title was just for fun. In all honesty, I have other plans for the membergroup. As it is, it doesn't restrict any user rights. No reason to say it won't always be like that...



Users in the troll membergroup cannot view the off topic board. They have all their regular permissions except for the complete inability to use the offtopic board.
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Post by: ultifd on 28 February 2011, 04:25:11
Oh, cool! Avast! has been updated!  :D
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Post by: -Archmage- on 28 February 2011, 19:46:28
OK Omega I guess you better remove the troll description...that gives them an excuse, I guess.
Heh, the Gabbe title was just for fun. In all honesty, I have other plans for the membergroup. As it is, it doesn't restrict any user rights. No reason to say it won't always be like that...



Users in the troll membergroup cannot view the off topic board. They have all their regular permissions except for the complete inability to use the offtopic board.

 :O
Comon, Omega, put it back! :P
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Post by: Omega on 28 February 2011, 22:25:38
Actually, it didn't work. For some reason, they could still post, as seen by the now banned Warlord of the Reich.
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Post by: ultifd on 28 February 2011, 23:01:31
Too bad...hopefully it'll work in the next version of SMF.  :|
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Post by: -Archmage- on 3 March 2011, 05:49:03
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMy-6RtoOVU

Nigahiga is pretty much the best! :thumbup: This makes me think of Johnny English! :P
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Post by: Gabbe on 3 March 2011, 11:37:31
CRacked me up succesfully arch :P The best asses ever!
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Post by: Gabbe on 4 March 2011, 23:54:02
Actually, it didn't work. For some reason, they could still post, as seen by the now banned Warlord of the Reich.

Wait, you perm banned him :look:
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Post by: ultifd on 5 March 2011, 00:01:04
It wasn`t homophobic when they could perfectly be a male and a woman lizard.. I think OT/ here
Well, perhaps so. But, I think some people of the community are homophobic, so it would be then...
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Post by: Gabbe on 5 March 2011, 00:02:20
It wasn`t homophobic when they could perfectly be a male and a woman lizard.. I think OT/ here
Well, perhaps so. But, I think some people of the community are homophobic, so it would be then...

maybe..but this isn`t aloud to talk about :S
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Post by: ultifd on 5 March 2011, 00:05:00
Actually the world should...but too bad the community can't handle it. Or any other nice discussions out there.  >:(
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Post by: Gabbe on 5 March 2011, 00:09:15
Yes, it is really, sad. Especially me would want to disguiss what is going on in the arab world but i guess I just talk to archmage on it on skype :)
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Post by: Omega on 5 March 2011, 06:41:43
Yes, it's not suitable for this board, and no, warlord was not permanently banned, though I doubt he'll last the 90 days. Looking at the Board rules and how many times he broke them, we really need to enforce them better. Technically, he should have been banned long, long ago.
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Post by: ultifd on 5 March 2011, 06:43:27
Yes, it is really, sad. Especially me would want to disguiss what is going on in the arab world but i guess I just talk to archmage on it on skype :)
Yeah, well oh well...the OT section will just always be boring

...if you don't mind my asking, what does your name, "Ultifd" mean?
Nothing, I just made it up one day.

Looking at the Board rules and how many times he broke them, we really need to enforce them better. Technically, he should have been banned long, long ago.
Well, technically a lot of members should have be banned...even some moderators themselves. But, I guess we'll just turn over a new leaf...
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Post by: Gabbe on 5 March 2011, 11:17:44
I Like the moderation now as it is.

It isn`t a strict CSI site, but rather a friendly "Hey dont do that again please :)" site.

And i always think of ultifd as UltimateF(something)D(Something) :P
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Post by: ultifd on 5 March 2011, 21:54:27
Yeah, only the "discussion censorship" is strict ;) Although, there have been a lot of users attacks in the past; and not a lot has been done about it.
And i always think of ultifd as UltimateF(something)D(Something) :P
Yeah, I thought ulti=ultimate and I'm not sure what F and D means. I think my nickname is pretty nice though...ulti F D :P
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Post by: will on 5 March 2011, 22:11:38
in computing, "fd" means "file descriptor"

Boring, dull, but true; sorry.
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Post by: ultifd on 5 March 2011, 22:17:26
How about Frederick Douglass, Flying Dutchman, or Fault Detection  :D That's not dull  :O
I don't know, I guess I could create another nick that starts with F and ends with D...
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Post by: Gabbe on 6 March 2011, 00:07:28
Ultimate Frog Duck!
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Post by: Omega on 6 March 2011, 04:20:11
Notice: Omega will be away till Thursday. Play nice kiddies.
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Post by: Gabbe on 7 March 2011, 07:12:27
Heh....heheh.....hehehehhe.......durr......durr...surrr..mMWYHWYWH/(HYAHYIYAAYUAAHU§!

(No i will be nice ;) )
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Post by: ultifd on 11 March 2011, 07:18:35
 :( Wow, all those earthquakes keep coming...  :-X
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Post by: -Archmage- on 11 March 2011, 07:22:59
Huh? You live in Japan? What earthquakes?
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Post by: ultifd on 11 March 2011, 07:27:12
No...I don't, fortunately. So recently, this week, there has been a lot of earthquakes that have struck Japan. The latest one (an hour ago?)was 8.9...and then there was a tsunami...  :( and possibly more to come...
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Hopefully Hagekura is OK...
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Post by: -Archmage- on 11 March 2011, 07:37:15
Ouchie. :-\
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Post by: ultifd on 11 March 2011, 09:59:32
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Post by: Hagekura on 11 March 2011, 10:06:09
Thank you, I'm ok. :)
but very surprised. Earthquake is an unremarkable event in here, but this time soon I realized it's unusual. I felt the ground is moving, momentary I felt a fear. It's a biggest quake I have ever experienced. the quake continued for a while. It was very ominous experience.
All of the pacific side coasts alarmed tsunami. nuclear plants stopped operation, power failure in some places. trains stopped, fires in some plants and buildings. some casualties are reported.
Currently Information is confused, I don't know how much damage japan suffered by this quake.
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Post by: ultifd on 11 March 2011, 10:11:34
That's good to hear.  :O  I guess you don't live near the coast... :)
Yeah, I think there unfortunately will be a good number of damage...especially the stocks...
Yep, earthquakes aren't nice...in my area everyone always has a feeling when the "big one" is coming...
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Post by: Gabbe on 11 March 2011, 14:17:58
We have a lot of earthquakes, but they are so small, only measures 4.3 on richters scala. Not even close to 8.7 like this one.
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Post by: wyvern on 11 March 2011, 18:20:35
Its good to hear your okay Hakegura, 8.9, thats a nasty one, In the eastern USA theres no way you can get and earthquake.
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Post by: Omega on 11 March 2011, 19:18:45
And I am back! Sorry to hear about the earthquake... At any rate... 3 pages of recent unread posts? And I just finished stalking the Wiki's recent changes too!
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Post by: -Archmage- on 11 March 2011, 20:22:20
Hahaha Omega, have fun! :P

That earthquake got me worried; "No!!! The japanese mod will never be finalized!?!?".
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Post by: Hagekura on 12 March 2011, 03:32:16
Omg, seems the damage is more than I have imagined.
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Horrible tsunamis raided coastal cities of Iwagi, miyagi, fukushima prefectures and those cities were wiped out by massive muddy stream. over 300 bodies have found in the Sendai city (Homecity of Daimyo Date Masamune) and over 700 people are missing. the count of casualties is keep getting bigger and bigger...

I'm sorry for those people live in coastal areas, but I must be thankful for that I'm living in midland...
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Kisennuma city of sendai prefecture, whole city is under fire... It's like hell.

(click to show/hide)
Some chemical plants exploded.

Radioactive leakage in two nuclear plants. many buildings are collapsed.
Tsunami warnings still have issued in whole coasts of japan, and we still have sporadic aftershocks.
I hear US, China, Taiwan, Korea, France, England, and many countries offer aid for this tragedic accident.
I say thank you to the people of those countries. :thumbup:

That earthquake got me worried; "No!!! The japanese mod will never be finalized!?!?".
Don't worry, as long as my body and my PC is secured, finalization of the mod is assured. :thumbup:
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Post by: Ishmaru on 12 March 2011, 06:59:19
Glad your ok Hagekura! Hope your friends and family are ok 2... All the big earthquakes around the world recently makes me worried.
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Post by: Gabbe on 12 March 2011, 07:27:05
2012 is coming...ITS COMING AND ITS OVER 9000!!!!

http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=425253

Very...juicy...
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Post by: Hagekura on 13 March 2011, 04:50:51
lol
May the 天誅 upon those KKK turds.
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Post by: Gabbe on 13 March 2011, 04:55:10
I wont use google translate on that :P
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Post by: ultifd on 13 March 2011, 10:11:17
1 hour lost...  :(
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Post by: John.d.h on 13 March 2011, 20:13:23
You'll get it back in about six months.
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Post by: ultifd on 15 March 2011, 00:20:22
You'll get it back in about six months.
Yeah, after all time does past fast.

Happy Pi day! I had a lot of slices of pie...how about you guys?  :D
Pi as in 3.14, for any of you who don't know... http://lmgtfy.com/?q=pi+day
Removed useless posts...
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Post by: -Archmage- on 15 March 2011, 07:10:33
Pi Day makes me sad now, cause I remember the pie I had when I was in school. Lots of memories.  :(

2012 is coming...ITS COMING AND ITS OVER 9000!!!!

http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=425253

Very...juicy...

Those idiots need to learn about WW2. We are even. The nuke was payback in full, the war was over long ago. Not to mention that the US was effected by it(One life lost in CA over 5000 miles away, along with signifigant damage. (http://pollardpostpolitics.blogspot.com/2011/03/japan-earthquake-triggered-tsunami.html)). The Japanese are our allies now. That's all I have to say to those Pearl Harbor Karma assholes.



"which shifted Eastern Japan towards North America by about 13 feet (see NASA's before and after photos at right). The quake also shifted the earth's axis by 6.5 inches, shortened the day by 1.6 microseconds, and sank Japan downward by about two feet. As Japan's eastern coastline sunk, the tsunami's waves rolled in."
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Damn, less time in our days, just what we all needed! :P



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Quote from: -Archmage- on March 11, 2011, 15:22:20
That earthquake got me worried; "No!!! The japanese mod will never be finalized!?!?".
Don't worry, as long as my body and my PC is secured, finalization of the mod is assured. Thumb Up

*Wipes sweat off brow* Phew! Wait what about your soul, you're going to need that too? :P
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Post by: ultifd on 16 March 2011, 01:12:27
Pray for Tokyo, the reactors, and no strong wind...
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Post by: Conzar on 18 March 2011, 10:06:47
Due to the potential nuclear fallout from the Fukashima Nuclear power plant, my family and I fled China.  Given the information about the potential for full melt-down and/or release of nuclear contaminates in the atmosphere, we felt that our children's health was at great risk especially since they are infants. 

We had no trouble getting out since most people in China don't feel there is any threat due to governments reassurance that all is well.  We surely hope that the governments are right; however, we cannot take the chance that they are wrong or lying as in so many cases have shown in the past.  We did meet several other parents of infants on the plane who left China for the same reason as us; so we are not alone in our decision.

Needless to say, our world is turned upside-down.  I highly doubt that I will be able to do a monthly broadcast since we are living out of our suitcases at this point.  Hopefully we can go back to China once the nuclear plant is powered down and the fuel rods are disposed; but at this point, we have to wait to see where and how much fallout there will be. 
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Post by: Omega on 18 March 2011, 18:52:18
Due to the potential nuclear fallout from the Fukashima Nuclear power plant, my family and I fled China.  Given the information about the potential for full melt-down and/or release of nuclear contaminates in the atmosphere, we felt that our children's health was at great risk especially since they are infants. 
Ok, that's actually a bit extreme. Experts say that even the nearby city of Tokyo will only experience very minor radiation and laughed at people in North America panicking about possible radiation there.
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Post by: Gabbe on 18 March 2011, 19:16:18
Check that, experts from Japan say so, wich is very fortunate for them since then there will be less damage to their economy.
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Post by: ultifd on 18 March 2011, 22:02:09
Due to the potential nuclear fallout from the Fukashima Nuclear power plant, my family and I fled China.  Given the information about the potential for full melt-down and/or release of nuclear contaminates in the atmosphere, we felt that our children's health was at great risk especially since they are infants. 
Ok, that's actually a bit extreme. Experts say that even the nearby city of Tokyo will only experience very minor radiation and laughed at people in North America panicking about possible radiation there.
That isn't a bit extreme, because if I was living in China...I wouldn't take any risks. True, experts did say that...but you never know...all we can do is pray.

 :-X
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Post by: John.d.h on 19 March 2011, 02:49:07
Yeah... if you evacuate and it turns out to not be a big deal, you haven't lost much.  However, if you don't evacuate and it turns out that it is a big deal...  Well, money and material possessions are replaceable but people aren't.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 20 March 2011, 04:57:33
20km is the current "safe-distance", though some say up to 80km would be better. Dude I don't think you're in danger, but in case like this it's better to be on the safe side. :thumbup:
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Post by: Gabbe on 21 March 2011, 14:47:34
WTC thinks Japan only will have a down-period of 2-4% BNP instead of the anticipated 2% rise. Also there should be unusually much to do the next five years, and over all the economy will take little damage from the disaster.

+ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzIeiyzRLCw&feature=player_embedded

You japans seem to be doing everything good :P also hologram technology!
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Post by: Omega on 22 March 2011, 00:02:38
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/charity.png)

I usually respond to someone else doing something good by figuring out a reason that they're not really as good as they seem. But I've been realizing lately that there's an easier way to handle these situations, and it involves zero internet arguments.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 23 March 2011, 12:03:06
Oh YEA!
Crysis 2 baby, and Firefox 4!  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
I love Crysis 2 except for the glitches and server trouble(which will be patched soon hopefully).
Basically I'm having a great time shooting the guts outta aliens! :P
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Post by: Gabbe on 23 March 2011, 14:24:32
Me to, MP is fun, but unfortunately the maps are extremely small compared to crysis 1. *Hopes for graphics mods to arrive soon; crysis 2 standard gfx is horrible compared to Crysis 1 modded graphics* *And IGN(norant) says it has the best graphics on PC games to date. Sadly, they have not felt the power of crysis 1 mods.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 23 March 2011, 18:09:46
Hahaha! When the sandbox comes out, let's design an awesome particle mod. :P

Even though Crysis 1 mods can bring certain aspects of Crysis far beyond any other game, Crysis 2 has amazing graphics for a multi-platform game! For example, superb animation, decent particle effects, better plant physics than crysis 1(in some ways, though the frame rate of the physics is like 10-15 for consoles I guess....), and the fact that you can make toast with a toaster and then throw the toast at people. I just finished the campaign on veteran mode, and I think it's a great sequel! Instead of a predictable story building directly off crysis 1, they surprised us, with an intense storyline and characters branching from the first game. The only few things that bug me are the glitches, the huge mob scene on mycrysis.com, and some of the voice actors weren't so great at some times.

Overall, I'm very impressed with how much they managed to jam into Crysis 2. I have totally stable frame-rates in Crysis 2 with great graphics, while in Crysis 1 I have a mix of good, great, and extreme, and some very laggy moments. I feel bad for Crytek, people are pissed off at them for delivering an insanely good game. Then come the killzone freaks....... :P The gaming community........kinda like politics, it's filled with tons of selfish imbeciles.
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Post by: Gabbe on 23 March 2011, 18:28:38
Crytek failed epicly when it comes to the game industry, first, a DX9 leaked unfinished version, then a multiplayer Leak, THEN they release the MP demo som days later, and after that then they have another leak with the whole thing for all platforms, several days (i think it was out a week or two) before official release.

Graphicwise, it is vastly inferior to Crysis 1, though they did the lightning perfect. I still find the animations good, but very linear, just like in Crysis 1 aswell. The fact that a 5830 can max it out verifies this easilly, such a weak card should not be able to max such a anticipated game. And it lacks ESSENTIAL new technology, DX11 is needed for modern high-end games. Though the graphics are great, more was expected. 8/10

The gameplay was not improved from Crysis 1, but the AI is finally made intelligent, and it reacts perfectly with the environment! 9/10 Because it didnt do anything new.

The storyline is good, without spoilering anything i`d say that they made a very good change, though it is fact, and they admitted it, they didnt to the transission from crysis 1 very well, the story is still good, and it is not the story of Crysis 2 that had to be redone, but the one from Crysis 1 :P 10/10

Overall 9/10
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Post by: Omega on 23 March 2011, 18:35:42
One could say leaks are a good thing. I've heard of many companies who purposely leak things for the free publicy.
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Post by: Gabbe on 23 March 2011, 18:52:14
Crytek already had a lot of publicity, there ads were all over the webs gaming corner. And it was anticipated to be the next "Ground breaking graphical FPS". Though, have you seen the bit-torrent movie?
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Post by: -Archmage- on 23 March 2011, 19:03:38
Gabbe, you are not the norm you are far from the norm, you are way above the norm with multiple graphics cards and tons of processing power. Crytek wanted to make a game that a larger amount of people could actually play. The AI in Crysis 2 is impressive but very glitchy, and sometimes you can walk in front of it and it doesn't notice. Except for the design of the aliens and how prophet got to new york, the story was perfect. :P
Personally I love the new aliens, the old ones were pretty lame. The graphics in Crysis 2 are far more brutal that Crysis 1, as you can very obviously see when you encounter the crashed ship. What do you mean gameplay not improved, dude it's totally different. It's way more 'real' feeling now. Crysis 1 was beautiful, Crysis 2 is brutal and realistic.
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Post by: Gabbe on 24 March 2011, 06:52:41
About Japan;

big image in spoiler
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Post by: -Archmage- on 24 March 2011, 17:15:58
Wow. Except that the stuff about cellphone radiation is a lie. :P
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Post by: Gabbe on 24 March 2011, 20:03:20
Sleeping next to someone is DANGEROUS! you get in RADIATION! :-X
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Post by: John.d.h on 24 March 2011, 22:51:07
You're ignoring a much more important and terrifying implication here:
(http://img852.imageshack.us/img852/1219/radbanana.png) (http://img852.imageshack.us/i/radbanana.png/)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 24 March 2011, 22:58:13
(http://autodesk.blogs.com/between_the_lines/WindowsLiveWriter/NEC_FP1370_21%20CRT.jpg)

 :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :scared: :scared: :look: :look: :look: :look: :look: :look: :look: :look: :look: :look:
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 25 March 2011, 02:28:27
I use all flatscreen.........except my daddy uses crt.... :'(
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 25 March 2011, 03:58:46
First, to clear things up, bananas are radioactive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_equivalent_dose), but in such a miniscule amount that it's hardly worth mentioning. Most foods are naturally slightly radioactive. It's the high potassium that makes bananas especially so. Cellphones do emit radiation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_radiation_and_health) as well, but again, in such miniscule amounts that it's harmless. Some worrywarts jumped the gun and proclaimed they could cause cancer, but there is no prove of this yet and the WHO (World Health Organization) supports that.  And of course, CRT Monitors exhibit radiation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathode_ray_tube#Ionizing_radiation), again, in very small amounts and this is strictly regulated.

In all honesty, so many things emit radiation that it's pointless to argue. Many people are misguided about radiation. It's dangerous, yes, in large amounts, but you are exposed to miniscule amounts every day, and for the most part, that exposure is harmless.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 25 March 2011, 04:15:04
I wonder how much more radiation we get from this big fella.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/The_Sun_by_the_Atmospheric_Imaging_Assembly_of_NASA%27s_Solar_Dynamics_Observatory_-_20100801.jpg/290px-The_Sun_by_the_Atmospheric_Imaging_Assembly_of_NASA%27s_Solar_Dynamics_Observatory_-_20100801.jpg)

Wear your sunscreen, kids.  This one actually does cause cancer.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 25 March 2011, 06:08:13
http://www.psrast.org/mobileng/mobilstarteng.htm (http://www.psrast.org/mobileng/mobilstarteng.htm)

HMMMM.......

Omega, I can't believe you'd take something by the World "Health" Organization for granted..... You simply can't trust big companies, they are ALL in it for the money.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ElimiNator on 25 March 2011, 15:17:27
http://www.psrast.org/mobileng/mobilstarteng.htm (http://www.psrast.org/mobileng/mobilstarteng.htm)

HMMMM.......

Omega, I can't believe you'd take something by the World "Health" Organization for granted..... You simply can't trust big companies, they are ALL in it for the money.
Yup, they will say anything for money.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 25 March 2011, 23:18:41
The World Health Organization is not a company.  It is an agency of the United Nations.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: hailstone on 26 March 2011, 04:25:19
I think this is a good podcast on the health hazards of electricity. http://spectrum.ieee.org/podcast/geek-life/tools-toys/electricity-health-and-the-disconnect-between-fear-and-science/
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 26 March 2011, 06:42:27
The World Health Organization is not a company.  It is an agency of the United Nations.

Dude, comon. You know what I mean. :P
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 26 March 2011, 07:21:35
Oh, right.  I forgot you meant "anyone who doesn't agree with me". :P
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 26 March 2011, 07:36:15
*Facepalm* I guess you don't know what I mean....
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: truth spreader on 26 March 2011, 09:25:33
guess who am i? who can know who am i?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 26 March 2011, 09:51:21
The World Health Organization is not a company.  It is an agency of the United Nations.

QFT

but...

You have so many companies after the direction that it is impossible to keep track of anyway, for example, all that will be in one of these companies are state police so it comes as a contest between the FBI and another organization that do the same work. I do not know anything about wages but if they receive wages and cured the disease then it may be something in it that ArchMage said. (Is it owned by the state? OMG That Means america is now socialist! :-X)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Loronal on 30 March 2011, 01:05:34
The World Health Organization is not a company.  It is an agency of the United Nations.

QFT

but...

You have so many companies after the direction that it is impossible to keep track of anyway, for example, all that will be in one of these companies are state police so it comes as a contest between the FBI and another organization that do the same work. I do not know anything about wages but if they receive wages and cured the disease then it may be something in it that ArchMage said. (Is it owned by the state? OMG That Means america is now socialist! :-X)
But socialism is good, so is communism, just in a democracy and a small country.  :'( to many people hate communism for what they don't know, It's like being blind and asians even though you have no clue WTF they are, Well besides midgets with tiny eyes and wierd hats if thats what your friend told you,
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 30 March 2011, 07:32:52
Are we going into politics again?  Really?  Let's not.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 30 March 2011, 13:17:14
The World Health Organization is not a company.  It is an agency of the United Nations.

QFT

but...

You have so many companies after the direction that it is impossible to keep track of anyway, for example, all that will be in one of these companies are state police so it comes as a contest between the FBI and another organization that do the same work. I do not know anything about wages but if they receive wages and cured the disease then it may be something in it that ArchMage said. (Is it owned by the state? OMG That Means america is now socialist! :-X)
But socialism is good, so is communism, just in a democracy and a small country.  :'( to many people hate communism for what they don't know, It's like being blind and asians even though you have no clue WTF they are, Well besides midgets with tiny eyes and wierd hats if thats what your friend told you,
My best friend's a Korean. :P



Are we going into politics again?  Really?  Let's not.
Whoa...........Gabbe......
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 30 March 2011, 18:54:25
Phoenix, i was joking and being sarcastic. just as you know.. :)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 30 March 2011, 21:55:53
Ugh...  :| No comment.
Are we going into politics again?  Really?  Let's not.
Yeah, discussing anything that is really controversial will probably be impossible to do on this forum. Don't they teach people how to discuss things maturely and etc these days? Maybe high school? :angel:
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 31 March 2011, 00:14:13
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Ugh...  No Opinion No comment.

Correction: "Ugh..." is your comment. ;D
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 31 March 2011, 13:28:06
I like Chocolate cake better than Pie, just have that said. It is very controversial and it should not be disguissed :O no jk go ahead, who likes Pie better than chocolate cake?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Ishmaru on 31 March 2011, 15:01:17
Who needs chocolate cake or pie when they could have brownies + ice cream!!!  :P
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 31 March 2011, 16:27:26
Vanilla cake > Chocolate cake anyday!
Ice cream for I scream!

Anyway let's make this discussion more interesting.....................

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/beauty.png)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 3 April 2011, 19:00:45
3ly is gone...it was the shortest one.
All the other ones are longer...
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 12 April 2011, 06:52:43
(http://www.allthingsdope.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/Farrell-Family-Yurt-Steamhouse.jpg)

This for your mod also<?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Mr War on 12 April 2011, 19:32:04
I think that's a different type of steam man
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Hagekura on 12 April 2011, 19:54:55
Nice legs house...
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Zoythrus on 13 April 2011, 00:07:21
Nice legs house...
hehe....
Title: Re: earthquake
Post by: ultifd on 18 April 2011, 22:05:18
Just had a ~4.0 earthquake. I guess I should be used to it...
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 19 April 2011, 09:56:01
Were do you live?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 19 April 2011, 18:30:23
Earth. And you?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: will on 19 April 2011, 18:45:48
Earth. And you?

Gabbe?  We sometimes wonder which planet he's on  :angel: :D
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 19 April 2011, 18:49:36
Obviously, im on Aiur, though you terrans stay on Earth mauahaha..
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Zoythrus on 26 April 2011, 00:53:55
Obviously, im on Aiur, though you terrans stay on Earth mauahaha..

i thought you were a Zerg player....
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 26 April 2011, 06:35:33
Well looking at that current avatar was protoss.. :P
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Zoythrus on 26 April 2011, 12:59:15
that was kinda confusing....i just remember you saying that you liked the Zerg (which is stupid, cuz the Zerg suck!)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 26 April 2011, 13:02:03
I dont hate the protoss, they are cool, terrans however...most imba sh*t you`ll ever find, pump rine, pump rine! DANCE RINES DANCE! And stimpack at those marauder = goodbye base. how many SECONDS(!!!) does it take four marauders to kill of a hive?
Title: Re: mario-portal
Post by: ultifd on 30 April 2011, 07:18:30
http://www.dorkly.com/video/14583/dorkly-bits-mario-with-a-portal-gun
ftw.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 30 April 2011, 11:51:08
Haha you lIke portal too? :P
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 30 April 2011, 17:00:37
Haha you lIke portal too? :P
Everyone likes portal. I was gonna buy Portal 2, but was hinted I'd get it for my birthday...  :|
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Zoythrus on 30 April 2011, 17:34:22
I dont hate the protoss, they are cool, terrans however...most imba sh*t you`ll ever find, pump rine, pump rine! DANCE RINES DANCE! And stimpack at those marauder = goodbye base. how many SECONDS(!!!) does it take four marauders to kill of a hive?

well, if you keep succumbing to the MMM people, i have a tip: you must construct additional pylons.  ;)

and about Portal? i cant wait to get the 2nd one! no.1 was amazing!
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 30 April 2011, 19:08:03
The zerg survives on large maps from mmm ball because it can see it coming and prepare eaither burried banes or suprize concave the army of the terran. However, on small maps wit5h short rush-distance the zerg has no way of defending against a mmm ball, hell, if they go mm ball your totally screwed cause that army would be twice as big! Zerg only rules the late game, but t is too powerfull early game so there won`t be any late game..
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 3 May 2011, 07:13:34
Why did it have to be fox?  :-X I mean, there were a good number of other mistakes by others....but not on TV
(http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/9190/foxheadlinefail.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMP7Ys57ha4
Even if it was a local....
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Hagekura on 4 May 2011, 21:07:17
I knew osama have his kagemusha, whose name is Obama bin laden.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 5 May 2011, 01:16:30
Barack Obama + Osama Bin Laden = Obama Bin Laden
Not hard people to mix up... :P
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 5 May 2011, 02:20:06
I`ve had a ton of english and american friends making the same mistake...My norwegian friends doesn`t even know or talk about it..lol..
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 5 May 2011, 03:03:38
I`ve had a ton of english and american friends making the same mistake...My norwegian friends doesn`t even know or talk about it..lol..
They probably haven't been strip-searched every time they go to the airport for the past ten years. :P

(Okay, I'm probably exaggerating.  The security before only two flights I've ever had was actually a breeze.)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 5 May 2011, 06:06:48
(Okay, I'm probably exaggerating.  The security before only two flights I've ever had was actually a breeze.)
But they made me toss out my water bottle! I was drinking from that!
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 5 May 2011, 06:23:08
Barack Obama + Osama Bin Laden = Obama Bin Laden
Not hard people to mix up... :P
Not for Americans, at least and there's the broadcast delay too...  :angel:

They probably haven't been strip-searched every time they go to the airport for the past ten years. :P
(Okay, I'm probably exaggerating.  The security before only two flights I've ever had was actually a breeze.)
All in all, I guess it's OK. It's just not for people who have metal...casts and etc? in them...

I knew osama have his kagemusha, whose name is Obama bin laden.
Well, what do you expect.  :P
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 10 May 2011, 21:56:56
For a Media Studies project, I must create an ad campaign for a fictional golf company (dubbed "TurboDrive"). Unfortunately, I need some type of big idea that would really "sell" the product, and it could potentially be carried across the multiple types of ads (from commercials to paper to pamphlet to web) that we'd have to create. Anyone happen to have an interesting, novel, cool, etc idea that one could use to sell golf clubs?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Zoythrus on 10 May 2011, 22:11:23
For a Media Studies project, I must create an ad campaign for a fictional golf company (dubbed "TurboDrive"). Unfortunately, I need some type of big idea that would really "sell" the product, and it could potentially be carried across the multiple types of ads (from commercials to paper to pamphlet to web) that we'd have to create. Anyone happen to have an interesting, novel, cool, etc idea that one could use to sell golf clubs?

make a golf mod for Glest!  :P
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 11 May 2011, 06:12:38
Microsoft bought Skype, not the best day for the world...  :-\  :-X I was like  :look: :o when tomreyn told me hours ago.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 11 May 2011, 06:30:27
Yeah, huge bummer.  I liked Skype. :(
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: wciow on 11 May 2011, 12:39:04
They probably haven't been strip-searched every time they go to the airport for the past ten years. :P

Last time I went to America (Vegas), the first thing I was asked when I got off the plane was "when were you last in court?", obviously this is to catch out (very dumb) criminals but it wasn't exactly the nicest welcome  :(

Everyone was lined up into three lines: American Citizens, white "western" looking people, everybody else. I'm not trying to be racist, but thats what I saw  :o

Also there were security guards wandering around tooled up with semi-automatics, pistols and body armor as if WW3 was about to break out. In a British airport you might see the occasional policeman with a weapon but its pretty rare. In American even the lowliest security guard had a pistol, kinda scary if your from a county without guns.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Zoythrus on 11 May 2011, 13:15:55
kinda scary if your from a county without guns.

im sorry, but i seem to have forgotten where you come from, cow.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: wciow on 11 May 2011, 14:31:59
I'm from England, its like Australia but colder and with more ugly people  :(

This is what most Americans think England is like  :O

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Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 11 May 2011, 14:41:37
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Also there were security guards wandering around tooled up with semi-automatics, pistols and body armor as if WW3 was about to break out. In a British airport you might see the occasional policeman with a weapon but its pretty rare. In American even the lowliest security guard had a pistol, kinda scary if your from a county without guns.

Uhm, that's pretty standard for policeman out on patrol. Body Armor, and semi-auto pistol. You know how secure that makes the airport? Really secure, so you can feel safe in our airports man. Except for the TSA.....they're scary...

Quote
I'm from England, its like Australia but colder and with more ugly people  Sad
Hehehe.
I went to Vegas back in September last year, and just my luck I met this gorgeous aussie girl. :angel:
(No joke.)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 11 May 2011, 18:08:58
At least they weren't on red alert.

(http://www.nydailynews.com/img/2009/12/30/450x364-alg_airport_soldiers.jpg)

^ National Guardsmen at LaGuardia Airport in New York.  Hurray paranoia. :|  I guess we can look forward to more of this in the near future. :thumbdown:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/42929460?__source=otbrn%7Coutbrainext20110511140344%7C&par=otbrn (http://www.cnbc.com/id/42929460?__source=otbrn%7Coutbrainext20110511140344%7C&par=otbrn)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 11 May 2011, 19:08:53
At least they weren't on red alert.

(http://www.nydailynews.com/img/2009/12/30/450x364-alg_airport_soldiers.jpg)

^ National Guardsmen at LaGuardia Airport in New York.  Hurray paranoia. :|  I guess we can look forward to more of this in the near future. :thumbdown:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/42929460?__source=otbrn%7Coutbrainext20110511140344%7C&par=otbrn (http://www.cnbc.com/id/42929460?__source=otbrn%7Coutbrainext20110511140344%7C&par=otbrn)

Better safe than sorry, though it would be nice if they didn't have a full blown assault rifle fully visible. But of course, anyone with bad intensions that sees that AR might think twice before trying something.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 11 May 2011, 19:53:46
terrorists and suicide bombers do not care for their own lives, they are not going to be scared even though an entire USA tank division showed up..
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 11 May 2011, 23:44:12
Happy Belated Bithday to titi! (Well its the 12th already in Germany)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 12 May 2011, 02:59:01
Happy Belated Bithday to titi! (Well its the 12th already in Germany)

Woot woot!!! :swordman:
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 12 May 2011, 05:47:07
Happy Belated Bithday to titi! (Well its the 12th already in Germany)

Woot woot!!! :swordman:

 :archer: :archer: :archer: ARCHER CHEER YAY! :archer: :archer: :archer:
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 12 May 2011, 06:26:42
One of the many annoying things with Facebook: People that don't have common sense or they are just dumb sometimes...when they click on "profile seekers" or "prevent spam--verify your account". Really?  :wicked: (and etc)
Oh, it's a XSS hack.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 12 May 2011, 06:58:26
Most people that didn`t even know internet existed before facebook/twitter are so dumb they actually click on those things. I recall one app, it was a normal game application, but then it changed and messaged all my friends about omg see who stalks profiel!!1! or something. Kinda retarded, anyways I don't store any important information on facebook.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Ishmaru on 12 May 2011, 13:56:01
I don't do anything other than post replies and topics. Do not play games, or use any apps whatsoever... Im worried about everyone else though...
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Zoythrus on 12 May 2011, 18:07:03
I don't do anything other than post replies and topics. Do not play games, or use any apps whatsoever... Im worried about everyone else though...

same here. i have better games to play (like Constellus ;))
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 12 May 2011, 19:46:59
Facebook games are succesfull for a reason, the addiction you get to them, and the competitiveness in them. Look synga just surpassed EA in worth. And i can agtree to this statement, even their tetris is addictive, thou i never got into farmville. It lookes like shit.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 12 May 2011, 19:53:40
Speaking of Farmville... :look:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiuHbj5alu8
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Ishmaru on 12 May 2011, 20:11:35
I don't know whats more sad, that people can be so addicted to a game or that there is such a thing as "i dump for u.com" :o
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 12 May 2011, 22:01:22
I don't do anything other than post replies and topics. Do not play games, or use any apps whatsoever... Im worried about everyone else though...
Yep, same thing. Maybe I'll answer a question every now and then. And delete some spam.
Farmville? Sucks.
http://betterfacebook.net/ makes FB a lot more awesome though. Greasemonkey/addons FTW.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Ishmaru on 13 May 2011, 02:16:19
I don't do anything other than post replies and topics. Do not play games, or use any apps whatsoever... Im worried about everyone else though...
Yep, same thing. Maybe I'll answer a question every now and then. And delete some spam.
Farmville? Sucks.
http://betterfacebook.net/ makes FB a lot more awesome though. Greasemonkey/addons FTW.

Interesting addon , I usually don't have much activity on FB though, maybe ill make a Annex FB Group :P
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Zoythrus on 13 May 2011, 03:16:51
I don't do anything other than post replies and topics. Do not play games, or use any apps whatsoever... Im worried about everyone else though...
Yep, same thing. Maybe I'll answer a question every now and then. And delete some spam.
Farmville? Sucks.
http://betterfacebook.net/ makes FB a lot more awesome though. Greasemonkey/addons FTW.

that's amazing! my FB looks sooooo amazing!!!! i love you, ultifd ;)
Title: Re: Rant >_<
Post by: ultifd on 14 May 2011, 01:57:58
 :)

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Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Ishmaru on 14 May 2011, 02:38:59
One reason i don't play multiplayer games of any sort. Cant stand people when they become rude, unruly, and outright annoying like that... That's why Megaglest now has the ability to ban people.
Tom123 y does that name sound familiar?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 14 May 2011, 03:08:49
So what's the right word for people like this? Or word(s)?
I can think of a few, but I think they're all against board rules. :P
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 14 May 2011, 07:06:20
So what's the right word for people like this? Or word(s)?
I can think of a few, but I think they're all against board rules. :P
:P Right, of course. I'm pretty sure I thought of those too. I meant the ones that aren't inappropriate...I think.  :O

One reason i don't play multiplayer games of any sort. Cant stand people when they become rude, unruly, and outright annoying like that... That's why Megaglest now has the ability to ban people.
Tom123 y does that name sound familiar?
:-X Well I still think you should play multiplayer games, at least with megaglest. After all MG does have the banning function, and it's just a few certain people. Yep, but in my case the annoying guy is not on my server, we were both on someone's else. Tom123 was a bug reporter but he had some issues. He changed his nick then... Perhaps you're thinking of tomeyn?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Ishmaru on 14 May 2011, 13:32:50
So what's the right word for people like this? Or word(s)?
I can think of a few, but I think they're all against board rules. :P
:P Right, of course. I'm pretty sure I thought of those too. I meant the ones that aren't inappropriate...I think.  :O

One reason i don't play multiplayer games of any sort. Cant stand people when they become rude, unruly, and outright annoying like that... That's why Megaglest now has the ability to ban people.
Tom123 y does that name sound familiar?
:-X Well I still think you should play multiplayer games, at least with megaglest. After all MG does have the banning function, and it's just a few certain people. Yep, but in my case the annoying guy is not on my server, we were both on someone's else. Tom123 was a bug reporter but he had some issues. He changed his nick then... Perhaps you're thinking of tomeyn?
No I remember seeing his name before. I looked it up cause it bothered me that much, and now i remember who and what happened. =P

Anyways, yea maybe ill give multiplayer another shot, when i have an os that any version of glest works on... -_- Plus i want to try Annex multiplayer! :D
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Ishmaru on 15 May 2011, 18:21:12
The future of FPS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWkpdtFZoBE

Its like Johnny Lee, but also allow actual game interaction using head movements such as using scopes, and peering around corners. Also No special equipment, or equipment modding necessary just a standard web cam!
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 15 May 2011, 21:31:13
Anyways, yea maybe ill give multiplayer another shot, when i have an os that any version of glest works on... -_- Plus i want to try Annex multiplayer! :D
For sure! You should really join #glest on freenode (http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=glest) sometime.

Well it does use FaceAPI. Looks cool. Johnny Lee? Oh yeah...a lot of cool stuff.
Have you tried their game?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybfxs4QYcvE
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Ishmaru on 16 May 2011, 00:18:06
For sure! You should really join #glest on freenodei/url] sometime.
 (http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=glest)
First i need my PC to work...

Well it does use FaceAPI. Looks cool. Johnny Lee? Oh yeah...a lot of cool stuff.
Have you tried their game?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybfxs4QYcvE

I need a steam account and a source game been thinking about picking up Portal so i hope thats all i need to play this. The tech demo seems to have more features than the paintball game though, but i still want to try it.

This guy also made scripts for MAYA 2010 to generate motion capture data from an XBOX Kinect:
http://torbensko.com/kinect/

Giving me ideas maybe Annex should have live motion capture infantry some day!
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Post by: Darth_Sidion on 16 May 2011, 16:53:53
I wasn't going to say anything, but I'm too excited to keep silent.

IT IS OFFICIALLY THE WEEK OF PIRATES OF THE CARRIBEAN FOUR: ON STRANGER TIDES!!! :)

Am I going to go see it on Friday? No.

I'll go on Saturday, because the theater I go to has a special on Saturdays. Lower ticket prices (like under $6 per person). I'm not seeing it in 3D, too expensive. I don't know, maybe I will. So, anyone else going to go see this movie? One last thing, on my Youtube channel, I have a lil something for ze Pirate fans. Here is da link, ya!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz377UOLQZg

Please leave comments if ye wish.
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Post by: Zoythrus on 16 May 2011, 17:23:46
I'll go on Saturday

Dude, havent you heard? Christ is coming that day! go see it on Friday!

(yes, i know that those bilboards are a scam...)
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Post by: John.d.h on 17 May 2011, 18:29:28
 :confused: :o :O
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Post by: Darth_Sidion on 20 May 2011, 17:16:36
Today is it!! Instead of waiting till Saturday, my mom is taking me to see Pirates 4 today!! Woohoo!!
I'm super siked and I'll let you all know how the movie was whenever I can. Go Pirates!!
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Post by: Gabbe on 20 May 2011, 20:53:56
It has pirate theme to it, of course it will be good, screw the ninjas btw.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 20 May 2011, 22:33:10
Just report the spam threads and don't reply to them.
And Gabbe:
Don't be homophobic.  :thumbdown:
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Post by: Gabbe on 20 May 2011, 22:54:57
 :| Its gona nao, i didn't do nothing..
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Post by: ultifd on 20 May 2011, 23:04:20
Oh really? You shouldn't have said it anyways... What you should have done was to just report it. Come on, be mature. It's not that hard.
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Post by: Omega on 22 May 2011, 22:24:55
I wish we could have this on our forum.

(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/listen_to_yourself.png)

If anyone ever makes such a thing, it would be implemented so fast.
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Post by: ultifd on 22 May 2011, 22:41:24
All you have to do is copy and paste to a text to speech program... :D
They actually did change it though, before...  :O
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsPEQ5yfM_0
As for SMF, meh.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Darth_Sidion on 23 May 2011, 16:34:16
Well....I didn't get to see the film. I soooo hate my mother for this! But on the plus side, Pirates 4 pwnd at the weekend Box Office, even beating Thor!

Go Pirates, Go Pirates, Go Pirates, Go Pirates.....
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Post by: Gabbe on 26 May 2011, 15:58:08
[Removed] Stop talking about Politics!!!
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Post by: will on 26 May 2011, 16:05:02
Eh isn't it already state-controlled?

<most-confused/>
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Post by: Darth_Sidion on 27 May 2011, 16:54:08
She did it again!! Answer me this, is it proper for a mother to lie to her son about taking him to see Pirates 4, knowing full well he's obssessed with that particular film series?
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Post by: Gabbe on 27 May 2011, 19:08:49
It is so wrong, so it can be ur choice. :|
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Post by: Gabbe on 1 June 2011, 05:55:09
Whhaaaa banned from 4chan

You have been banned from all boards for the following reason:

Posting inane and irrelevant religious trolling garbage --
No "religion vs. science" threads in /sci/.

Your ban was filed on May 31st, 2011, and expires on June 15th, 2011, which is 14 days from now.

According to our server, your IP is: ************ The name you were posting with was ****.

Because your ban is longer than 3 days in length, you may appeal the ban using the form below. Please explain why you believe you deserve to be unbanned. Rude, poorly written, or offensive appeals will be rejected. Submission of an appeal does not guarantee nor does it imply that your ban will be lifted prior to its listed expiration date. E-mail address is optional, however if you do not provide one, we will be unable to contact you with questions and/or updates.

Note: If your IP is dynamic, or your ISP uses a proxy-cache, you might be affected by a ban meant for somebody else. If you believe this to be the case, state so in your appeal. Tor/proxy users should note our policy listed here.
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Post by: John.d.h on 1 June 2011, 05:59:44
Surprise surprise. :look:
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Post by: Gabbe on 1 June 2011, 13:10:17
The forum are made for trolling?!?!? WEHy can't I troll it, Seth did you get a ban for your troll also?
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Post by: -Archmage- on 1 June 2011, 15:18:20
The forum are made for trolling?!?!? WEHy can't I troll it, Seth did you get a ban for your troll also?

I don't do the 4chan thing...
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Post by: Gabbe on 1 June 2011, 15:53:17
I have skype record of it! You talked to me and and..just admit that you were there on the sci boards making fun of mormons!
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 1 June 2011, 16:59:07
You wanted me to troll so I posted something stupid to amuse you. :P I haven't been on 4chan since. I don't care if they ban me.
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Post by: Omega on 2 June 2011, 03:43:48
And now, an amendment to the Offtopic board's rules: 4chan is a forbidden topic. We do not in any circumstance support trolls, thus, we do not talk about it here.

-Pages to Never Create-

-Hitler
-Religion
-Abortion
-Biased Politics
-"Best" governments/ideologies
-Sexuality/Nudity
-4chan
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 2 June 2011, 04:05:42
We do not in any circumstance support trolls, thus, we do not talk about it here.
I thought we just didn't support trolls here. :P
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Post by: Omega on 2 June 2011, 04:11:47
We don't really support trolls at all. It's time to crack down on that. Moderators, if a post strikes you as trolling, such as this example:

Fridya Friday, we we so excited, oh wait...

Delete it.

Posts mentioning 4chan will also bite the dust. Do what you will there, but don't carry it back over here.
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Post by: Omega on 7 June 2011, 05:06:18
An image I made just for fun in some spare time:

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Post by: -Archmage- on 7 June 2011, 16:16:57
Jeezum Crow Omega! You are one of like a billion people that say the golden rule wrong. It's not 'treat others the way you want to be treated'. It's "do unto others as you would have them do unto you". :P
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Post by: John.d.h on 7 June 2011, 19:44:47
It's like you scoured the social networking pages of a dozen teenage girls.  I was halfway expecting "if you can't handle me at my worst, you don't deserve me at my best". :P
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Post by: Ishmaru on 8 June 2011, 02:51:49
An image I made just for fun in some spare time:

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The Optimism... it BURNS!!!! >_<

JK :O
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Post by: Darth_Sidion on 14 June 2011, 16:45:08
Saw it! Finally I saw Pirates 4, and as a bonus even X-Men: First Class. I have to say, I feel sorry for Maneto, and I've been rooting for Xavier's team for no friggin reason! I should've been cheering on Magneto's team. Anywho, my High School Graduation is tomorrow, and I'm a teeny bit nervous. So, I'll return here oh say....next Monday? Cause I'm gonna party my arse off baby!

(P.S. I purchased one Lego set based off of Pirates 4. Sadly I have no Blackbeard figurine yet. Also, I so want that new Lego Imperial Flagship something awful! Or the Lego Queen Annes Revenge if I find it.)
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Post by: Gabbe on 14 June 2011, 19:41:04
Japan company sells Robots for personal use. Pic related:

(http://img.gfx.no/854/854059/Picture-53-620x421.540x367.png)
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Post by: Ishmaru on 15 June 2011, 03:59:11
Japan company sells Robots for personal use. Pic related:

(http://img.gfx.no/854/854059/Picture-53-620x421.540x367.png)

Who's up for a mech battle tournament ???
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Post by: Hagekura on 15 June 2011, 10:00:47
Japan company sells Robots for personal use. Pic related:

(http://img.gfx.no/854/854059/Picture-53-620x421.540x367.png)
Nice Exo-suit!
I've dreamed it since I saw aliens movie. :O
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t306/firegod664/aliens-ripley-powerloader_.jpg)
「Come on!」
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Post by: Gabbe on 17 June 2011, 16:29:34
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U mad Omega?  :P :P
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Post by: Omega on 17 June 2011, 17:43:04
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U mad Omega?  :P :P
I'm confused. What am I looking at?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 17 June 2011, 17:59:58
Have you ckecked the news recently? Hint_ vancouver or something.
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Post by: ultifd on 20 June 2011, 09:17:37
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzE-IMaegzQ
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Post by: -Archmage- on 20 June 2011, 16:04:57
Ultifd:  :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Post by: John.d.h on 20 June 2011, 16:43:00
Hahahaha nice.  I'm surprised he wasn't bruised and bleeding by the end of that video.  Flying over the handlebars onto pavement is about the worst solo accident a cyclist can have, so I sure can't imagine doing it on purpose (especially without a helmet).  Then again, he's riding a fixed-gear cruiser, so can't have been going very fast. :P

But yeah, unless New York has some specific law about it, bicyclists are absolutely allowed to ride on the street where any car can go, with all the same privileges and responsibilities as a motorist.  They're just not allowed on the interstate, for obvious reasons.  Some of the bike lanes around here are so badly crumbled that riding on them could easily send a cyclist out of control and either into the ditch or into traffic.  I think it's an example of policy makers being completely out of touch with the laws that they're making (much like having a group of 57-year-old men (http://www.senate.gov/reference/resources/pdf/RS22555.pdf) decide laws on video games).  I doubt that more than 10% of them have ridden a bike at all in the past decade.
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Post by: Gabbe on 30 June 2011, 19:17:00
Google+ anyone?

https://plus.google.com/up/start/?sw=1&type=st
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 30 June 2011, 23:50:49
Already destroying myself with Facebook...I don't need to do it more with Google. Besides, invites were closed since you posted...I think. Anyways, its 'Circle' and 'Hangouts' features is pretty nice. Features aren't worth it, for me at least.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 1 July 2011, 00:30:51
I will delete my facebook and move to google+ I think it is way better and it doesn't have so much unneeded crap I don't want.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: -Archmage- on 1 July 2011, 01:36:48
No way I'm using a site like fb made, hosted, and controlled by google. :-X
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Post by: Omega on 1 July 2011, 05:59:23
No way I'm using a site like fb made, hosted, and controlled by google. :-X
Google already controls your soul anyway.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 1 July 2011, 06:58:47
Everybody complains about Google's privacy antics, but the simple solution is, "If you don't want someone to know something, don't tell it to them!"  So yeah, if you're worried about it, refusing to join is a good solution.  I'm not sure they can kill FB's momentum, though.  We saw what happened when Google Buzz couldn't upset Twitter.  I guess we'll see; I won't be surprised either way.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 1 July 2011, 07:54:09
I've figured out Google already knows most about me than some of my closer friends anyways :angel: Think about it, it knows about all my interests, it knows where I live, it knows what country I am from, it knows even what music I like! I haven't uploaded any videos or photoes at any of their sites but i wouldn't be suprised if they knew how I looked. Then again I suppose I trust Google with most of my stuff anyway... :|
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Post by: will on 1 July 2011, 08:00:41
I've figured out Google already knows most about me than some of my closer friends anyways :angel: Think about it, it knows about all my interests, it knows where I live, it knows what country I am from, it knows even what music I like! I haven't uploaded any videos or photoes at any of their sites but i wouldn't be suprised if they knew how I looked. Then again I suppose I trust Google with most of my stuff anyway... :|

I'm not your friend and I know all this stuff about you!  You post too much.

;)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 1 July 2011, 08:11:11
The thing is, what can you use it for anyways, and if you know my adress, PM me it ;)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: John.d.h on 1 July 2011, 17:39:36
(http://i.imgur.com/HvPGd.jpg)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 1 July 2011, 20:21:18
Happy Canada Day!

(http://www.neoformix.com/2008/Flag_Canada2.png)

More Info (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_Day)
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Post by: Gabbe on 1 July 2011, 20:25:28
Gratulationz!
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Post by: cougar#1 on 1 July 2011, 21:50:39
  do you like grand theft auto if you havent tried it I recomend it     

Your only three posts are all single sentences about grand theft auto. Just a reminder that this is the Glest board. -- Omega
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 2 July 2011, 07:50:18
http://www.circlehack.com/
Circles but for FB. Eh, meh.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 2 July 2011, 11:11:47
http://www.circlehack.com/
Circles but for FB. Eh, meh.

Is that legit?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 4 July 2011, 09:44:40
Grah! I decided that I hate Steam, after it refused to let me play my Portal 2 anymore, and every fix listed online failed. Attempting to reinstall, and making a mental note to myself to never buy a valve game for the PC again. I do think I'll stick with the 360 versions for now on. While graphically inferior, at least they do not force you to use the overly strict steam. I do hope that Skyrim doesn't use steam, since I particularly wanted a PC version for that...

EDIT:
And... nope, reinstalling did not work... Must try again or die trying, making it halfway through the game before the game decides to not let me play is lousy, especially when you forked over $60 for it...
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Post by: -Archmage- on 4 July 2011, 22:17:40
You payed $60 for Portal 2?! :O
Have you tried talking to Steam/Valve?
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Post by: Omega on 4 July 2011, 23:50:48
You payed $60 for Portal 2?! :O
Have you tried talking to Steam/Valve?
Buying games on the day of release is always expensive, and downloading is not an option on my internet. It would take over a week of straight downloading, assuming the download doesn't break halfway through. At the moment, I am attempting reinstall #2 after wiping the registry (sad how uninstallers fail to clean up their own mess most of the time). It seems to be going better, but the update needed for Portal 2 is taking forever.  :-X
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 5 July 2011, 00:15:32
Is that legit?
[lmgtfy]circle hack (See news..)[/lmgtfy]
BTW, Happy 4th of July guys! Too bad my 'standard' city doesn't have the budget for fireworks...going to a different city then.  :angel:
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Post by: wyvern on 5 July 2011, 01:45:12
What city do you live in??? :o :o Even Newark with a population of 20-30,000 has enough for fireworks :|
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Gabbe on 5 July 2011, 01:52:30
We have to buy all our fireworks ourselves :look:
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Post by: ultifd on 5 July 2011, 05:57:54
The city I live in doesn't have public fireworks, for all I know. My usual city has a population of 117,000 or something. So I just went to another city, got a decent place but a tree was still blocking. First half of the fireworks were pretty mediocre, and then it got better as always. But, it's still good. Then the usual walking back and driving back...another hour. :P
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Post by: John.d.h on 5 July 2011, 06:08:23
Where I live, it rained for most of the day, so big fireworks shows were a no-go. :-\  I guess there's always New Year's.
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Post by: Omega on 5 July 2011, 07:02:37
Even my tiny city of a population of about the same as yours, Ultifd, has fireworks (on Canada day, that is).

And in other news, Steam (and Portal 2) is working again. Yay.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 5 July 2011, 07:04:21
Every city's budget is different. And that even matters more when you're comparing two different countries. I don't think it's tiny too...
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ElimiNator on 5 July 2011, 15:55:57
Mine had fire works last (Canada Day) but not this year.
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Post by: -Archmage- on 5 July 2011, 15:58:25
Happy 4th a July!
I live in a large city. I met some of my friends and ate tons of delicious fries! :D

This year for us:
Bob Marley
Our own symphony orchestra.
Huge Fireworks!
Masses of people collected on the slopes to the ocean.
Huge lines for the fries...
And more. :D
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: ultifd on 6 July 2011, 06:31:14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzMN2c24Y1s
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Omega on 6 July 2011, 07:08:56
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzMN2c24Y1s
Never a better thing to support. After watching the collateral murder video, it's hard not to support WikiLeak's (and Anonymous's) cause, and the blockage of donations by credit card companies is an outrage.
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Post by: ultifd on 11 July 2011, 08:00:39
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hytigOSjJxc
Hmm... http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s112-978
So 10 videos within 180 days, and make $2,500?
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Darth_Sidion on 16 July 2011, 10:05:25
Hey everyone, just wanted to pop in and say hi, since I don't talk here as much as I used to. *poof*
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Post by: ultifd on 19 July 2011, 03:10:04
(http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/editorial_image/3f/3f2b223704940e6ca520a21736cb49c7/british_teenager_bikes_on_top_of_water_for_charity_wont_say_how.jpg)
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/post/British-teenager-bikes-on-top-of-water-for-chari?urn=top-wp203
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Post by: ultifd on 1 August 2011, 07:52:56
Double Post... :/
Anyways, if you use FB...you probably hate the new FB Chat. So just install this script to make it like how it was before... http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/107159 (Greasemonkey required)
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: Darth_Sidion on 4 August 2011, 12:41:40
Okay so latley was playing MegaGlest, cause it seems other versions (types) of Glest refuse to be stable on my laptop. Glest, GAE, they no longer work. MG does, but I have this one lil issue. When it loads, everything works, but the resolution isn't too clear. Words are slightly blurred, and the font sizes are a bit smaller than normal. I can't figure out how to fix it, and my current screen resolution supports the game. I don't trust myself to fiddle with any settings, but still, it's a small issue that's become annoying (to the point I stopped playing MG). Any advice guys? Also, I did uninstall the whole thing, I'll need to download a fresh copy, some new add ons, try to start over, but I just don't trust MG (or the others) right now. I've already had some game crashes (they just shut down and go to my desktop) which is making me rather weary of the games. I do not want to kill my laptop (or screen) but Glest in its entirety is the single best (free) Real-Time Strategy game I've ever had the pleasure of playing. I don't want this experience to end. Can you guys help me, please?
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Post by: Gabbe on 4 August 2011, 13:42:08
Try and post in the bug section or MG and GAEs respective forums.
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Post by: Omega on 4 August 2011, 17:59:14
Okay so latley was playing MegaGlest, cause it seems other versions (types) of Glest refuse to be stable on my laptop. Glest, GAE, they no longer work. MG does, but I have this one lil issue. When it loads, everything works, but the resolution isn't too clear. Words are slightly blurred, and the font sizes are a bit smaller than normal. I can't figure out how to fix it, and my current screen resolution supports the game. I don't trust myself to fiddle with any settings, but still, it's a small issue that's become annoying (to the point I stopped playing MG). Any advice guys? Also, I did uninstall the whole thing, I'll need to download a fresh copy, some new add ons, try to start over, but I just don't trust MG (or the others) right now. I've already had some game crashes (they just shut down and go to my desktop) which is making me rather weary of the games. I do not want to kill my laptop (or screen) but Glest in its entirety is the single best (free) Real-Time Strategy game I've ever had the pleasure of playing. I don't want this experience to end. Can you guys help me, please?
Two things: firstly, you actually went off topic in the offtopic board, if you wish to continue after this post, do so on either the MG or GAE boards. Secondly, update your drivers, most crashes are the fault of that. If that still doesn't work, you likely have rather bad hardware, and should put some serious thought into buying a new computer.
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Post by: ultifd on 5 August 2011, 07:20:44
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8Dkog-pe-I
 :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: cougar#1 on 8 August 2011, 19:31:16
hi im cougar#1 i like this kind of topic because this is like facebook but i cant get facebook anyhow anyone play fable 2?
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Post by: wyvern on 8 August 2011, 19:38:35
First off, no I never played Fable 2, second of all, curse and insult one more time and it might be your last before the admins kick you off, :bomb: just a fair warning for you cougar. also, not everyone has the time to be on the forum 24/7 so expecting someone to answer in 3 minutes is a bit too much :|
Either way, welcome to the forum
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Post by: Omega on 10 August 2011, 00:36:11
And behold our stricter crack down on trolls:

Cougar#1's stats: 5 total posts, all off topic, warned previously, not one post related to Glest, a few of those violate board rules, and ooh, temp ban. Yeah, that was harsh. We don't need his kind here. Reasoning: Troll-like behavior.

Don't hurry back.
Title: Re: Off Topic - Main
Post by: wyvern on 10 August 2011, 00:53:31
Thank you Omega :O
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Post by: Darth_Sidion on 17 August 2011, 19:10:21
Okay so latley was playing MegaGlest, cause it seems other versions (types) of Glest refuse to be stable on my laptop. Glest, GAE, they no longer work. MG does, but I have this one lil issue. When it loads, everything works, but the resolution isn't too clear. Words are slightly blurred, and the font sizes are a bit smaller than normal. I can't figure out how to fix it, and my current screen resolution supports the game. I don't trust myself to fiddle with any settings, but still, it's a small issue that's become annoying (to the point I stopped playing MG). Any advice guys? Also, I did uninstall the whole thing, I'll need to download a fresh copy, some new add ons, try to start over, but I just don't trust MG (or the others) right now. I've already had some game crashes (they just shut down and go to my desktop) which is making me rather weary of the games. I do not want to kill my laptop (or screen) but Glest in its entirety is the single best (free) Real-Time Strategy game I've ever had the pleasure of playing. I don't want this experience to end. Can you guys help me, please?
Two things: firstly, you actually went off topic in the offtopic board, if you wish to continue after this post, do so on either the MG or GAE boards. Secondly, update your drivers, most crashes are the fault of that. If that still doesn't work, you likely have rather bad hardware, and should put some serious thought into buying a new computer.
I have updated all my drivers, I dunno if it'll fix the issue cause I haven't gotten around to re-downloading everything. Also, sorry if I went off-topic in an off-topic section (didn't know that was even possible). Also, this laptop isn't even mine to being with (belongs to me mum) and she hardly uses it, ergo I'm it's primary user. It has some kind of chipset, in lieu of a video card. I looked that up online, turns out it's welded to the motherboard, so it can't be replaced. All I can do, like you mentioned previously, is update drivers. Hopefully MG will run smoother now, cause I even updated my adobe flash. I'll try it out and let you know the results.
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Post by: Omega on 18 August 2011, 03:06:49
Firstly, adobe flash won't at all affect your performance in Glest, it's not even remotely related to Glest and isn't even a driver. Use a program like driver doctor for that. Secondly, you'll never get very good performance from an integrated graphics card (as yours is). For optimal graphics quality, you'll need a dedicated graphics card, which means sooner or later, it's time to give mom back her computer and buy yourself a nice one. It can still be a laptop, of course, just be sure to check its specs carefully.
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Post by: John.d.h on 18 August 2011, 03:26:08
There is a way to set up an external graphics card, but it's... shall we say advanced.
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Post by: will on 18 August 2011, 05:14:49
In keeping with the concept of "off-topic", I'd just like to say that modern integrated graphics are actually very good.

Glest* doesn't play so well on integrated cards, but that's overwhelmingly because of the glest codebase and not because of the cards.  The MG team have moved a little way towards addressing this, but not as far as they might.  I know too that GAE has always had graphics performance improvements in mind, and I hope they too run better than vanilla glest on the low end.

John Carmack said recently that he expected the next generation of integrated cards to overtake discrete cards.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hapCuhAs1nA
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Post by: John.d.h on 18 August 2011, 15:40:50
Well I don't know about anybody else, but hardly any games run well on my card.  Those that aren't just slow, usually have major graphics bugs and shader problems, some to the point of looking like a rainbow through a kaleidoscope (Trine) or being rendered entirely in pink and black (Overgrowth).  Then again, 2007 is a little outdated.  I don't even know what it's like to have a computer with a decent graphics card. :-X
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Post by: Omega on 19 August 2011, 02:34:59
John Carmack said recently that he expected the next generation of integrated cards to overtake discrete cards.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hapCuhAs1nA
I doubt they'll become more powerful, though likely are more common (or will become so) since the vast majority of people don't need to run the game at maxed graphics at 1080p. I bet less than 10% of computers are even used for gaming. Pretty much nothing else needs a discrete graphics card. Admitingly, a good integrated graphics card could probably outdo a low-end discrete graphics card, especially at the rate technology processes.

However, for the high end gamers (if I recall, the unreal engine 3 demo at E3 was run on a triple GPU behemoth)

In all honesty, having up to date drivers and a newer card can apparently matter more than how much it costs or even the whole integrated vs discrete part.
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Post by: Gabbe on 19 August 2011, 05:03:37
Dedicated GPUs are always ahead of their integrated counterparts. Always.
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Post by: will on 19 August 2011, 05:29:32
Dedicated GPUs are always ahead of their integrated counterparts. Always.

Gabbe 0 Carmack 1
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Post by: Gabbe on 19 August 2011, 15:39:29
Dedicated GPUs are always ahead of their integrated counterparts. Always.

Gabbe 0 Carmack 1

im sorry?
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Post by: Gabbe on 6 October 2011, 13:33:12
Steve Jobs is dead. The Computer technology world lost an important man  :(
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Post by: hailstone on 14 October 2011, 10:28:39
Steve Jobs is dead. The Computer technology world lost an important man  :(
The creator of the C programming language and co-developer of the Unix operating system also died recently. (according to games.on.net (http://games.on.net/article/13981/Dennis_Ritchie_Passes_Away_Aged_70_-_Programming_World_Mourns_the_Loss_of_the_Father_of_C_and_Key_Developer_of_Unix))
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Post by: Omega on 14 October 2011, 15:44:48
Steve Jobs is dead. The Computer technology world lost an important man  :(
The creator of the C programming language and co-developer of the Unix operating system also died recently. (according to games.on.net (http://games.on.net/article/13981/Dennis_Ritchie_Passes_Away_Aged_70_-_Programming_World_Mourns_the_Loss_of_the_Father_of_C_and_Key_Developer_of_Unix))
It's actually kind of disappointing how death of the creator C, one of the most important programming languages of all time, can't rack up the kind of headlines an MP3 player can. Goes to show the impact that good advertising can do. While not an Apple fan, personally, Apple definitely was top of its game for generating hype.
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Post by: Ishmaru on 14 October 2011, 17:30:32
True jobs was good at generating hype for his products but
Jobs is also credited for inventing the mouse and gui for operating systems, thus makeing home computers more desireable / assessible to the general public.
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Post by: CruzR on 14 October 2011, 18:20:52
True jobs was good at generating hype for his products but
Jobs is also credited for inventing the mouse and gui for operating systems, thus makeing home computers more desireable / assessible to the general public.
AFAIK the mouse and the gui were developed by Xerox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xerox_Alto). Jobs visited Xerox and stole the idea.
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Post by: wyvern on 14 October 2011, 23:00:41
I feel bad for Steve Jobs, but not for Apple, to be honest, their products rely on good looks and hype rather then serious quality :|
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Post by: Omega on 15 October 2011, 04:01:50
I feel bad for Steve Jobs, but not for Apple, to be honest, their products rely on good looks and hype rather then serious quality :|
I'm inclined to agree. People tend to believe that macs are incredibly faster than windows, but if you build a custom windows computer, for the same price you paid for that mac, you could get something quite a bit more powerful. And between the operating systems themselves, Linux is faster than both (though I personally prefer windows if only for the familiarity and compatibility).

Apple sure knows how to advertise, though. Coca Cola is the only company that has more memorable ads.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYecfV3ubP8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oaiV8MQH7s
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Post by: will on 15 October 2011, 10:44:01
Jobs and dmr both without parallel in their facets of the field

Apple products very much embody the personal clarity and vision of Jobs.  Most programmers i know use macs at home - a fairly new trend.
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Post by: Gabbe on 15 October 2011, 12:58:09
Quote
Apple products very much embody the personal clarity and vision and completely locked down OS of Jobs.  Most programmers i know use macs , popular term is "Locked machines", with no ability to change hardware OR software, did i forget they lack support on nearly all software? at home - a fairly new trend.
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Post by: wyvern on 15 October 2011, 14:04:34
I don't think so, mac us mostly popular with people who don't really understand computers but like feeling good about showing of their expensive mac, linux powers most supercomputers, I think, and windows is definitely most used, I personally have a windows desktop and Linux laptop and am happy with both. I also wasn't enchanted with the I-pad 1 or 2 since the first didn't even have USB ports, it doesn't have great graphics, convenient size, or even a good processor while the base product is something like 600$, money for which I can get a decent-good laptop. At least the German produced product that looked similar and came out a week or so later was roughly equal in price but had linux, USB ports, and was slightly faster
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Post by: Gabbe on 15 October 2011, 16:49:29
A freind of mine have made a few songs, they are in Norwegian but what do you think about them:
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWMUjRZe8qI&feature=player_profilepage[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCk9_cHUkVY[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U570mAjlAA0[/youtube]
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Post by: Omega on 30 October 2011, 07:08:30
Well, back from a trip to the states. I must say, I do not like whatever law in California lets restaurants force the gratuity on parties of "x" or more... Still, a good vacation.
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Post by: Omega on 3 November 2011, 20:49:36
Happy tongue awareness month! (http://xkcd.com/972/)
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Post by: Mr War on 7 November 2011, 17:18:47
Well, back from a trip to the states. I must say, I do not like whatever law in California lets restaurants force the gratuity on parties of "x" or more... Still, a good vacation.
Tipping is part of the culture and economy there. It was alien to me also, but you get used to it. Wages for restaurant staff are low, so they rely on tips. What pees me off is when the waiting staff chase customers who don't tip them, that's just rude.
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Post by: John.d.h on 7 November 2011, 19:52:45
I'm a bit surprised that they don't tip in Canada. Here, wait staff are some of the only employees who can get paid less than minimum wage because it is expected that they will make it up with tips. I actually like the idea because it gives them an incentive to provide good service. Your waiter sucks? Let your money do the talking. Give a lousy tip.
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Post by: Omega on 8 November 2011, 05:57:17
I'm a bit surprised that they don't tip in Canada. Here, wait staff are some of the only employees who can get paid less than minimum wage because it is expected that they will make it up with tips. I actually like the idea because it gives them an incentive to provide good service. Your waiter sucks? Let your money do the talking. Give a lousy tip.
Wha? We tip in Canada, it's just not mandatory. I've never seen any restaurant force you to pay the tip - dunno if it's legal or just widely unaccepted. In some of the places I ate at in the US, the service did suck, but we couldn't give a crappy tip, since they already took out a massive 18%. And not trying to be cheap or something, but I can't afford to tip 18%. Usually my family (and most others I know) just tip around 10% or so; 15% if they thought it was exceptional service.

I understand that the wait staff isn't paid very well (though here in Canada, they are at least paid minimum wage, and most ads I've seen offer slightly above minimum wage, which is $9.50 in my province, but as high as $11 in Nunavut), I just prefer to be able to have the right to choose how much to tip. Don't see a reason to tip much if they treat us like crap, after all.

//Edit: My god... Out of curiosity, I looked up the US minimum wage... It is way below any Canadian wage, and many states allow tipped employees to go as low as $2... That's terrible.
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Post by: Mr War on 8 November 2011, 22:10:54
18%??? Yeah that's outrageous!
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Post by: Ishmaru on 9 November 2011, 01:27:08
18% Tip is Customary, but not always required. It varies on the restaurant. Most require 18% tip for parties more than 3, others will include it in the bill. Tiping is mandatory for Yellow cabs in NY :(.
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Post by: Omega on 9 November 2011, 01:46:17
Well, we probably used roughly ten different restaurants, of which more than half had inserted gratuities into the bill directly. The amount usually varied from 13-18%, and was usually for parties of 3-6 or more. I suppose it's pretty commonplace there, but we don't have anything like that in Canada, so it came as a surprise, really.

What I found strange was at the Tony Romas, the inside of the bill folder tries to explain the gratuities to their international guests, stating that no gratuity was added to the bill yet... when it very much was. :O
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Post by: Ishmaru on 9 November 2011, 05:19:44
What I found strange was at the Tony Romas, the inside of the bill folder tries to explain the gratuities to their international guests, stating that no gratuity was added to the bill yet... when it very much was. :O

Wow that's pretty low of them >:(, but i don't think they are the only ones to do it either...
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Post by: Omega on 16 November 2011, 01:46:22
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Post by: Ishmaru on 24 November 2011, 14:00:58
To my friends in the States' Happy Thanksgiving!
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Post by: wyvern on 24 November 2011, 18:06:35
Thanks. Happy Thanksgiving to all! :)
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Post by: Omega on 25 November 2011, 03:37:15
Thanks. Happy Thanksgiving to all! :)
To my friends in the States' Happy Thanksgiving!
Psh, Thanksgiving was so last month (for Canada, anyway). :P
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Post by: Omega on 10 June 2012, 02:11:02
Been a while since we've posted here. The other day I finally got the chance to build my planned gaming rig, and oh, did it go well!


Achieved POST on the first try without issues, works godly. The Witcher 2, Skyrim, and Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood all play nicely at 1920x1080 with maxed out settings.



On another topic, I found a fantastic program today. Windows users probably know how Windows Explorer can display the thumbnails for images in common formats, such as JPG or PNG, but not less common formats such as TGA. SageThumbs (http://code.google.com/p/sagethumbs/), an open source shell extension which utilizes parts of the powerful XnView program, allows Windows Explorer to display thumbnails for an additional 162 image formats (plus another 26 if XnView is installed). Pretty nice to be able to see what XCF, PSD, TGA, AI, and SVG files look like right in explorer.
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Post by: John.d.h on 10 June 2012, 02:21:12
My new laptop is not a gaming rig by any strech but I think it's safe to say that I won't be going back to integrated graphics anytime soon.
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Post by: Omega on 10 June 2012, 10:46:15
I really would like to overclock that 2700K (which is why I opted for it) some more. As it stands, I've done some slight overclocking, but haven't been able to find a half decent guide for overclocking a modern Sandy Bridge CPU. Anyone happen to know any?
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Post by: -Archmage- on 26 November 2012, 01:43:10
I'm making some upgrades to my desktop rig as well!  ;D

-AMD Phenom II x6 1055t
-ATI Radeon HD 5870
-1TB HDD
-850W power supply
-8GB ram
-various coolers
-Biostar 990fx motherboard

That's been my rig for quite a while now, but this black friday I ordered me a lil upgrade.

-Intel SSD(one of the faster ones I found)
-Windows 8 is goin right on that ssd, I'm expecting microscopic boot times, and higher quality game recording!
-G.Skill Sniper Gaming series low latency 32GBs RAM

And for my Alienware laptop I ordered replacement ram, taking it from 6GB to 16!  8)

Early next year I'm looking at GPU upgrades for Crysis 3. Got my eyes set on the 7990, and my ears waiting for news of the 8000 series. ;)
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Post by: Omega on 27 November 2012, 12:27:57
Why bother going beyond 8, or even 6, gigabytes of RAM?
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Post by: -Archmage- on 1 December 2012, 08:15:22
Cause I've maxed out too many times on both.
I'm runnin that upgraded system right now, and hell it is fast!!
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Post by: softcoder on 1 December 2012, 15:59:09
Running some complex models in Blender (or other 3d renderers) or a few VM's at the same time and you easily surpass 16 GB of ram.
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Post by: tiger on 1 December 2012, 17:53:29
When I render my videos in blender 2.64 they hog all the memory on my system just rendering the thing. But 2.49b is even slower......  :(

I FINALLY upgraded to 2.64. Wow what a difference. Hard to find a thing. But with time I'm sure I will.  :thumbup:
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Post by: Omega on 2 December 2012, 02:45:47
I FINALLY upgraded to 2.64. Wow what a difference. Hard to find a thing. But with time I'm sure I will.  :thumbup:
Pro tip: hit spacebar and type in what you want to do (it searches all possible functions).
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Post by: tiger on 2 December 2012, 16:52:06
Well that is quite useful! Thanks  :)
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Post by: Gabbe on 9 December 2012, 15:37:22
Why bother going beyond 8, or even 6, gigabytes of RAM?

Becuase e-peen
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Post by: Statybininkas18 on 25 October 2018, 06:44:06
Hello !

I want to ask, where do you guys buy video games?

Thanks !
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Post by: HonzaCZ on 26 October 2018, 22:20:13
Hello !

I want to ask, where do you guys buy video games?

Thanks !
Epic necro my friend, on steam.
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Post by: Statybininkas18 on 19 November 2018, 13:45:48
What about Amazon?
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Post by: HonzaCZ on 31 December 2018, 20:05:50
Happy new year cunts
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Post by: Omega on 1 January 2019, 14:53:12
Yes, happy new... er, what?



But hey, what's going on in everyone's life? I think it's been a while since I've shared any deets. Let's see... I'm married now. To an American, so I get to deal with immigration fun. I currently work at a machine learning shop. Mostly with Python, but recently my focus has been on a parsing project that is written in C++ (for performance reasons). On one hand, I love working with languages. On the other hand, it's a pretty messy codebase (I didn't start it!) and refactoring is currently limited because we got multiple tickets that all touch this component and nobody wants merge conflict hell. Also, I still don't like C++, even with the shiny new features. I also did have a successful interview with a big 4 company, which I'm very excited about going into the new year!
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Post by: andy_5995 on 1 January 2019, 21:19:01
Yes, happy new... er, what?



But hey, what's going on in everyone's life? I think it's been a while since I've shared any deets. Let's see... I'm married now.

Congratulations!

Quote
To an American, so I get to deal with immigration fun.

Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. I hope things go as smoothly as possible.
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Post by: kagu on 28 February 2019, 22:05:49
Yes, happy new... er, what?



But hey, what's going on in everyone's life? I think it's been a while since I've shared any deets. Let's see... I'm married now. To an American, so I get to deal with immigration fun. I currently work at a machine learning shop. Mostly with Python, but recently my focus has been on a parsing project that is written in C++ (for performance reasons). On one hand, I love working with languages. On the other hand, it's a pretty messy codebase (I didn't start it!) and refactoring is currently limited because we got multiple tickets that all touch this component and nobody wants merge conflict hell. Also, I still don't like C++, even with the shiny new features. I also did have a successful interview with a big 4 company, which I'm very excited about going into the new year!

So, did you get the job ?
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Post by: Omega on 1 March 2019, 05:02:11
Oh, yes, I did!

It's great. Great culture, interesting projects, and hefty pay. I've relocated to Ontario for it, so it's been a busy few weeks.
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Post by: Just another idiot on 24 July 2021, 18:06:48
hey, im a huge fan of Megaglest, and i was wondering if somone is willing to play some multiplayer with me or just if there are some mod coders still making mods. (if there are, i would love to help, but i cant, cuz im an idiot. ::)