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Title: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 16 June 2010, 03:03:17
The mod list has moved to
https://docs.megaglest.org/Mods/List





Factions Download Center

In this topic, you can download working copies of all factions.

Want to help? Download a faction, test it out, and give a review!
Rules for reviewing:
1- You can't do a review on your own mod.
2- You may not judge someones mod based on your personal feelings toward the mod's creator.
3- You may not judge someones review without using logic, reason, and evidence to back up your claims.
Criteria for ratings (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5682.msg58484#msg58484)


Mods


platinum:

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[url=http://www.titusgames.de/megapack_v4.7z]Megapack[/url] Megapack | Megapack Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=3386.0)
By: Titi, Eliminator
Description: The Megapack includes the factions Indian, Norseman, Persian, and Egypt, six tilesets, and several maps and scenarios.
Glest versions supported: MG
Rating: 100

Vbros Pack 1 (http://www.soft-haus.com/jacob/blog/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=22), Vbros Pack 2 (http://www.soft-haus.com/jacob/blog/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=23), Vbros Pack 3 (http://www.soft-haus.com/jacob/blog/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=18), Vbros Pack 4 (http://www.soft-haus.com/jacob/blog/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=27), and Vbros Pack 5 (http://www.soft-haus.com/jacob/blog/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=31) | Faction Packs' Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=4511.msg28173#msg28173)
By: Eliminator and tiger
Help on moon faction from: Fluffy, -archmage-
Description: These five faction packs contain 20 factions in total.  In Vbros 1 is pirates, Canadians, British, and western.  Vbros 2 has the factions Gauls, dark knights, Greek, and crusaders.  Vbros 3 has the factions circus, chess, penguins, and Mario.  Vbros 4 has the factions Martians, USA, PC, and moon.  Vbros 5 has the factions Saxons, Africa, Dinos, and Aztecs.
Glest versions supported: MG.
Rating: 100

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[url=https://www.sugarsync.com/pf/D6983676_8815923_06589]Woodsmen[/url] Woodsmen | Faction Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=4313.0)
By: madmanntis
Description: An original faction with new models but is currently not under development.  This is a well-done faction with balance and originality. 
Glest versions supported: MG, GAE, vanilla.
Rating: 100

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[url=http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28217581/japaneseV085a_20110810.zip]Japanese[/url] Japanese | Faction Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=6103.msg61519#msg61519)
By: Hagekura
Description: Based on historical Late 15~ Early 17th century japan. At the time japan was under a civil war and the era was known for "SENGOKU JIDAI(era of warring states) ". Sill in-progress, but I think it will be a gold!
Glest versions supported: MG, GAE
Rating: n/a

Annex Conquer The World (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=6517.msg66705#msg66705) | Mod Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=6517.0)
By: Ishmaru
Description: A mod that brings fast paced combat with a diverse arsenal. Play as one of two Factions: The East Ocean Alliance or the Northern Empire.
Glest versions supported: MG
Rating: n/a

Enemies and Allies (http://www.soft-haus.com/jacob/blog/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=53) | Mod Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=7753.msg78361#msg78361)
By: Eliminator
Description: This is a military based faction where you can build oil wells, make tanks, and much more.
Glest versions supported: MG
Rating: n/a

Republic VS Police State (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=8016.msg80198#msg80198) | Mod Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=8016.0)
By: Eliminator and Tiger
Description: The world is being taken over by the government and the Elite of the world. They are trying to set up a police state and control the population. There is only one person that can save the world ... you! Make an army of citizens protest the governments evil doing.
Glest versions supported: Comes with supported version.
Rating: n/a



Gold:

Aztecs (http://www.soft-haus.com/jacob/blog/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=47) | Faction Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=6482.msg66236#msg66236)
By: Eliminator
Description: A Aztec faction based on the ancient Aztecs. Its an original faction with new models. This is a is still in-progress faction that needs testing.
Glest versions supported: MG.
Rating: n/a

British (http://www.soft-haus.com/jacob/blog/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=39) | Faction Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5451.0)
By: Eliminator
Description: A British faction base on the Revolutionary War. Its an original faction with new models. This is a well-done faction that needs testing.
Glest versions supported: MG.
Rating: 90

Romans (http://www.soft-haus.com/jacob/blog/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=1) | Faction Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5639.msg54094#msg54094)
By: Eliminator and -Archmage-
Description: A fairly historical faction based around the Roman civilization.
Glest versions supported: MG.
Rating: n/a

Elves (http://dl.megaglest.org/elves_097.7z) | Faction Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=3944.0)
By: Gameboy
Description: This mod is in v. 0.9.  This faction has fantastic models, and an attempt to fix this faction's AI problem has been made by removing the tree resource.  It is designed for Magitech. 
Glest versions supported: MG, GAE, vanilla.
Rating: 80


 
Silver:

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[url=http://www.mediafire.com/?h8h538byg154eh6]Undead[/url] Undead | Faction Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5985.msg60154#msg60154)
By: wciow
Description: A faction with undead, great textures and the units look pretty darn cool, the animations are fluid and the overall style is pleasing.
Glest versions supported: n/a
Rating: 70

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[url=http://www.filefront.com/15505187/dark_magic.10.02.04.zip/]Dark Magic (No Download)[/url] Dark Magic | Faction Development (http://tinyurl.com/kj8ucx)
By: Modman and a bunch of others
Description: A work-in-progress mod that is fully balanced with Tech and Magic.  This is 10.02.04 Currently, this faction is also the task of the GLADE Team.
Glest versions supported: GAE.
Rating: 80

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[url=http://www.zshare.net/download/77795715d5e79122/]Malevolent Rising (No Download)[/url] Malevolent Rising | Faction Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5394.0)
By: ChupaReaper
Description: This faction has new models that are quite good, It contains 5 factions and is currently under development.
Glest versions supported: GAE
Rating: n/a

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[url=http://www.sendspace.com/file/fvrxdv]Undersea (Aqua-Pack)[/url] Undersea (Aqua-Pack) | Mod Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=8224.0)
By: Mr War, Eliminator, Wciow.
Description: Inspired by eliminator's excellent underwater tile set, I've started work on a tech tree for underwater factions. The structure of resources and pace of play is also influenced by ishmarus annex although units generally move slower in water.
Glest versions supported: MG
Rating: N/A

BattleGlest (http://www.muwum-lexicons.de/bg/battleglest-0003-008.7z) | Mod Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=7742.msg78265#msg78265)
By:MuwuM
Description:BattleGlest is mod for Megaglest transporting RTS Arena to Glest. It is designed as a scenario and scripted in Lua. It uses many models from other Glest - mods but it adds a totally different gameplay.
Glest versions supported: n/a
Rating: n/a

The Great Ming (http://www.mediafire.com/?m4gribt816g68ye) | Mod Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=7786.0)
By:Mr War
Description:A Chinese-ish faction, OK textures and kind of undetailed/plain models but still cool.
Glest versions supported: n/a
Rating: n/a

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[url=http://www.mediafire.com/?gns4lta3fbh1hnf]Orcs (No Download)[/url] Orcs | Mod Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=6710.0)
By:weedkiller
Description:A mod with rugged tents and lots of orcs.
Glest versions supported: MG
Rating: n/a

Alliance (http://www.mediafire.com/?4xrzs98tnuzl9su) | Mod Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=7366.0)
By: MR War, Eliminator, Wciow, Muwum, John DH, and will.
Description:A Sci-fi faction, any one can contribute models textures or sounds. (Even you!)
Glest versions supported: MG
Rating: n/a

Iroquois (http://www.soft-haus.com/jacob/blog/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=52) | Mod Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=7358.0)
By: Eliminator
Description:A faction based on the Iroquois of Canada during the revolutionary war.
Glest versions supported: MG
Rating: n/a

Green Dawn Martian Invasion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=7021.msg75121#msg75121) | Mod Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=7021.msg71810#msg71810)
By: MR War and will
Description:A retro-futuristic Sci-fi faction inspired by, and in homage to HG Wells' genre-defining classic "War of The Worlds" and mass of 1950s B-Movies that followed. The battle set plays on some of the common themes such as flying saucers and little green men.
Glest versions supported: n/a
Rating: n/a

Constellus (http://www.mediafire.com/?sxwxb5bdvdv09xb) | Faction Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=6027.100)
By: The Constellus Team
Description: Constellus is a mod about two warring factions: the Crincillin and the Phorin. It all began when the Crincillin Empire started running out of the resources needed to maintain themselves.
Glest versions supported: GAE
Rating: n/a

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[url=http://www.mediafire.com/?wwjjywmhitz]Animal Cruelity (No download)[/url] Animal Cruelity | Faction Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=4940.msg37328#msg37328)
By: Fluffy
Description: This mod has all new models and is packaged as it own game. (A modified version of GAE) It has 3 factions bunnys, bears, and dogs. The models are quite small. And don't worry its not really cruelty to animals its just they were used as the factions
Glest versions supported: Comes with supported version.
Rating: 65

Apocalyptic Dawn (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=3802.msg17812#msg17812) | Faction Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=3802.msg17812#msg17812)
By: Omega
Description: This mod has all new models and is packeged as it own game. (A modified version of GAE)
Known Bugs: The anims could use inprovement.
Glest versions supported: Comes with supported version.
Rating: 70

City (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5173.msg42210#msg42210) | Faction Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5173.0)
By: Eliminator
Description: This mod has all new models and is packeged as it own game. (A modified version of MG)
Known Bugs: The bots (AI) don't realy do much.
Glest versions supported: Comes with supported version.
Rating: n/a

SST (Star Ship Troopers) (http://www.titusgames.de/sST/SSTLD.tar.bz2) | Faction Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=2149.0)
By: Myles
Description: A totally new game very similar to Glest, but with a futuristic theme.  You can mod this game to put the both factions in Glest
Glest versions supported: Comes with supported version.
Rating: 60

Dwarves (http://www.mediafire.com/file/48scdtf6p669hy9/dwarves-aglarond-0.1.2.7z) | Faction Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=3695.0)
By: wciow
Description: This mod has many great new models and is intended to be Magitech-compatible.
Glest versions supported: MG.
Rating: 55



Bronze:

Prax (http://mods.megaglest.org/techs/prax_0.5.8.7z) | Faction Development (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=8885.msg86749#msg86749)
By: atze
Description: A work-in-progress mod,Prax stands for the German word (Praxis) practice, so in something like exercise.
Glest versions supported: MG
Rating: 50

Monster/Alien (http://soft-haus.com/blog/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=34) | Mod Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=6666.0)
By: Tiger
Description: A Sci-Fi Mod that has two factions: Monsters and Aliens. Using all new models.
Glest versions supported: MG
Rating: N/A

Imperial Faction (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=6404.msg65097#msg65097) | Mod Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=6404.0)
By: MR War
Description:A medieval based faction with steampunk influences, the models are kind of big and some models are re-textured from the tech faction.
Glest versions supported:GAE, MG (Different download for each)
Rating: N/A

Nihilirian (http://www.moddb.com/games/nihilirian-rebirth/downloads/nihilirian-rebirth) | Faction Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=3492.0)
By: Nihilirian
Description: A new tech tree, focused on two distinct races: Arcturus and Sirius.
Glest versions supported: Comes with supported version.
Rating: 50

Glest In Space (http://www.moddb.com/mods/glest-in-space/downloads) | Faction Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5268)
By: Coldfusionstorm
Description: In this faction you are controlling spaceships in space, It has it own models and tile-set.
Glest versions supported: MG, GAE, vanilla.
Rating: n/a

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[url=http://www.filefront.com/16394049/nature.7z]Whimsical Forest[/url] Whimsical Forest | Faction Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5229.0)
By: Tiger
Description: A totally finished tech tree, contains 3 factions nature, garden, and mushrooms. The models are OK and the 3 factions are balanced so they can only play against each other.
Glest versions supported: Comes with supported version.
Rating: 50

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[url=http://www.influxgame.com/]Bio, Nano, Influx (No download)[/url] Bio, Nano, Influx | Faction Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5216.0)
By: Pullo
Description: This mod has all new models and is packeged as it own game. (A modified version of GAE) Its like in someones tummy with germs and stuff.
Glest versions supported: Comes with supported version.
Rating: n/a

Cube Warfare (http://www.moddb.com/mods/alex-bright/downloads/cube-warfare-v11) | Faction Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5382.0)
By: Njam2
Description: A faction that makes it easy to make an army and fight with out building a bunch of stuff. The models are very squarish. Very original.
Glest versions supported: MG, GAE, vanilla.
Rating: 40

Science (http://www.mediafire.com/?0umxdtdodtz) | Faction Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=298.0)
By: Silent
Description: A totally finished tech tree not balanced at all. Some new models but they are a bit small. Most people think of this faction as a joke.
Glest versions supported: MG, GAE, vanilla.
Rating: 30



Stone:

Girls (http://www.soft-haus.com/jacob/blog/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=48) | Faction Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=6784.0)
By: Bunny and Eliminator
Description: A totally finished tech tree that has only girls in it (Not very good models/anims/textures). My 6 year old sister made pictures of the stuff she wanted on gimp, and I sort of converted them to models.
Glest versions supported: MG, GAE, Vanilla.
Rating: N/A

Hunter / bunnys (http://www.soft-haus.com/jacob/blog/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=40) | Faction Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5806.msg58212#msg58212)
By: Eliminator
Description: A totally finished tech tree  balanced badly and has all new models, but they are pretty bad. It has a hunter faction and a bunny faction. (For the hunters to hunt) Also it has a lot of scenarios.
Glest versions supported: MG, GAE, Vanilla.
Rating: N/A

Winter men (http://www.soft-haus.com/jacob/blog/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=38) | Faction Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5226.0)
By: Monk
Description: A totally finished tech tree  balanced well and based off of Titi's and Eliminator's work, using there models.  The models are reskinned to match the themes of the factions.
Glest versions supported: MG.
Rating: 25

Solunar (http://www.mediafire.com/?b5z9o2rlnltakv0) | Faction Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=8050.0)
By: John.d.h
Description:  An original faction with new models but is currently under development. It contains two factions: sun and moon.
Glest versions supported: GAE
Rating: N/A

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[url=http://www.filefront.com/15886177/raders.7z]Raiders (No Download)[/url] Raiders | Mod Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5174.0)
By: Piggy
Description: Most models are re-textured from other techs, some new ones.
Glest versions supported: MG
Rating: N/A

Project Green (http://www.moddb.com/mods/project-green/downloads/project-green-v03) | Mod Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=6582.0)
By: John.d.h
Description: A quick and simple gameplay mod made over the past couple days, a total of only a few hours work.  The idea was not to create new factions, but merely to create a new style of gameplay.
Glest versions supported: GAE
Rating: N/A

Weather mod (http://www.soft-haus.com/jacob/blog/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=45) | Mod Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=6355.0)
By: Eliminator
Description:This is a weather mod. It has clouds tornadoes and stuff.
Glest versions supported: MG
Rating: N/A
Title: Re: Faction Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 16 June 2010, 03:04:22
Well, Eliminator, I am fine that you put this out...but we don't need any ratings... also, maybe if there is a next time, you could have asked other people if it was fine with  them if you did it...fine with me, now, but now you have the responsibility to update it. ... oh well.
Re: Megapack, take it out, until titi or someones uploads the latest "version"  ::) do...put a note at least...
Re: Known Bugs, some are bugs, but some are just info also...  ::)
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Sun an moon
and
And there are others that I can say, other stuff, such as more to put, some factions, and other remarks, but I will wait till at least other people read this read...

*half sighs*
Title: Re: Faction Download Center
Post by: wyvern on 16 June 2010, 03:06:35
Problem is this topic only mentions finished or playable mods but doesn't say anything about under construction factions like GW-pack, dragon faction etc.
Title: Re: Faction Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 16 June 2010, 03:07:09
Can some one sticky this?
Also if I missed any factions please tell me.
And if you want me to remove it i will. (I took me over an hour to make...)

Edit: OK ill fix that.
Title: Re: Faction Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 16 June 2010, 03:12:22
I can delete it if you don't want it...

Also I am adding more factions, post them here if I miss them.
Title: Re: Faction Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 16 June 2010, 03:13:30
EDIT: One more. Not finished, probably, but forgot to update it? I mean upload it again?  :|
https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5216.0 Influx: Microbe Infestation

Problem is this topic only mentions finished or playable mods but doesn't say anything about under construction factions like GW-pack, dragon faction etc.
Well, he has just not finished...
More of a problem was that he did not ask for our views on if he made this topic, but since he already did, oh well...fine with me basically...for now.  ::)

Machinery Faction...(not sure if finished or not) https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5115.0

https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5394.0- Malv. Rising.

https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5594.0 - Chess

https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5382.0 - Total War

https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5229.0 Whimsical Forest Theme

and Possibly others, also look here...
https://docs.megaglest.org/Mod_Compilations/Techtrees/Factions_for_Glest

Good luck, thanks

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(I took me over an hour to make...)
I appreciate the time, still...please ask first? I could have done the same thing, and was going to, but I chose to wait for others' opinion...to be fair and such...  ::)
Title: Re: Faction Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 16 June 2010, 04:12:03
OK, I updated all the ones you said.
Title: Re: Faction Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 16 June 2010, 04:13:48
OK, one more thing for now...
Sun an moon (http://www.mediafire.com/file/jgzvneztjkq/solunar_0.2.1.7z) | Faction Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=3811.0)
By: John.d.h
Description:  An original faction with new models but is currently under development.
Rating: N/A
Sun and Moon, I am pretty sure.  ::)

Thanks...I guess.
Title: Re: Faction Download Center
Post by: -Archmage- on 16 June 2010, 04:17:01
Put a thing in there for a new Romans, I already have a few meshes, and some animations done.
Title: Re: Faction Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 16 June 2010, 04:19:00
Put a thing in there for a new Romans, I already have a few meshes, and some animations done.
I can't until you at least make a topic.
Title: Re: Faction Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 16 June 2010, 04:19:59
Put a thing in there for a new Romans, I already have a few meshes, and some animations done.
You mean "Historical Romans"? You need to be more specific...  ::)  :P
Things can get confusing...
or Fantasy Romans/Romans/whatever it is called...  :|
Title: Re: Faction Download Center
Post by: -Archmage- on 16 June 2010, 04:25:22
Eliminator, if you're going to be icky-picky like a little girl then I'll do it myself.
Title: Re: Faction Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 16 June 2010, 04:27:09
Eliminator, if you're going to be icky-picky like a little girl then I'll do it myself.
I am not, There just will be no where to point the link too. If you relay think I should I will have to post every ones ideas even before they have the topic...
Title: Re: Faction Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 16 June 2010, 04:28:13
Eliminator, if you're going to be icky-picky like a little girl then I'll do it myself.
I am not, There just will be no where to point the link too. If you relay think I should I will have to post every ones ideas even before they have the topic...
OK, if historical romans, then here it is...
I am the middle...guy?  :|
https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=4920.0
OK, good luck to both of you...  :|
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 16 June 2010, 04:30:26
OK, then Ill add it.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: -Archmage- on 16 June 2010, 04:33:03
Already done, only link needs to be added.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 16 June 2010, 04:35:08
Somewhat sighing now...
Anyways, don't forget G.I.S.  ::)
https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5268.0
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 16 June 2010, 04:37:33
Somewhat sighing now...
Why?
Anyways, don't forget G.I.S.  ::)
https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5268.0
OK
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: wyvern on 16 June 2010, 15:38:46
You forgot ww1 mod for glest.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 16 June 2010, 15:48:48
OK, putting it up.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Trappin on 16 June 2010, 16:28:59
This is the best way to archive Glest faction information - Wiki seems nice at first glance but its really just more work with no real advantages. I'd like you to add three new categories: Compilation, Legacy and Novelty

Compilation packs

Legacy is for older, possibly outdated or partially broken, factions and tech tree's. SST, science and Nihilirian to name a few.

Novelty would include unconventional factions such as City and Whimsical and a few others.

EDIT: Do all of these factions and tech tree work with current GAE and MG builds? if not then they need to be flagged and noted.
EDIT2: Please list by alphabetical order or by release date or any other standardized archival method(s).
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Omega on 16 June 2010, 16:43:00
Ok, I'll consider this a quality post. I stickied it for that.

Question:
Quote from: your post
By: Omega
Description: This mod has all new models and is packeged as it own game. (A modified version of GAE)
Known Bugs: The anims could use inprovement.
Rating: N/A
Known bugs? I really don't think its a bug.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Trappin on 16 June 2010, 16:46:30
Artistic differences are subjective and therefore do not qualify as bugs. Complaints targeting modeling, texturing, animation and balance should be addressed on the forum discussion threads.

Edit: and to avoid even the appearance of impropriety? Moderators editing the original post need to specifically note all changes. Thanks.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 16 June 2010, 18:17:45
Thanks for everything. I will fix / do what you guys said.

EDIT: I reset the poll because someone added more options.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 16 June 2010, 18:42:43
Who dose everyone think is a good honest person that we should have rate the Factions?
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Gabbe on 16 June 2010, 20:52:58
DH, he is the fairest person on the board i say.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: wyvern on 16 June 2010, 20:57:47
Who dose everyone think is a good honest person that we should have rate the Factions?
Me of course ;D ;D, just kidding, I'll agree with Hypercube, that its probably John D.H.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Gabbe on 16 June 2010, 21:01:02
Hey! why does it say not much is done!??! (WWI) we have like all the units ready, im just waiting for wyvern to finish the textures!
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: wyvern on 16 June 2010, 21:07:10
Hey! why does it say not much is done!??! (WWI) we have like all the units ready, im just waiting for wyvern to finish the textures!

I just read it too and you got me angry >:( >:( the first release is nearly ready all its missing is the textures, Hypercube we'll add more aircraft and ships in the second release right.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Gabbe on 16 June 2010, 21:31:31
more units yes. lets not diguiss here
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 16 June 2010, 22:39:22
We don't really need ratings, as originally I think wyvern never asked for it, and they are opinions...  ::)
But, if so, John would be good to do so... IMO.
This is the best way to archive Glest faction information - Wiki seems nice at first glance but its really just more work with no real advantages.
I still like the wiki better, as it is easier to change and "edit"(in this we tell Elim...) and so...but this is OK too I guess...Just that Eliminator is the one that always updates it...maybe some mods or admins but...yeah.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: -Archmage- on 16 June 2010, 22:56:04
Titi or John(or me... ;D).
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Gabbe on 16 June 2010, 22:58:05
Im sure kukac will do just fine, he got atleast an obssesion with editing my posts when i use big letters
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 16 June 2010, 22:59:26
Titi or John(or me... ;D).
Titi and Kukac don't have the time really...
So either John (busy too I think, but more active...) or Archmage...
I don't know...for now.
I'd rather have no ratings though...
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Zoythrus on 16 June 2010, 23:05:52
hey, can Seana and i get our mod on the list?

https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5622.0
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 16 June 2010, 23:06:07
I could get rid of the rating if everyone wants it.

Hey! why does it say not much is done!??! (WWI) we have like all the units ready, im just waiting for wyvern to finish the textures!
I didn't know, sorry. I right the stuff with all the knowledge I have, so if you find something wrong just tell me and Ill fix it.

Edit: Sure Ill add it.  :D
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 16 June 2010, 23:07:35
I could get rid of the rating if everyone wants it.
Well, the majority of the people probably would want it...but really...well, I guess I am the only one that think it is...kinda pointless to have ratings...
if you do, it is fine, but a reputable person needs to do it...
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Gabbe on 16 June 2010, 23:08:27
Quote
I could get rid of the rating if everyone wants it.

uhhhhh??? :confused: im confused.. :-\

Quote
I didn't know, sorry. I right the stuff with all the knowledge I have, so if you find something wrong just tell me and Ill fix it.

yeah, but don`t make release anytime soon, the soonest release will be in 2 weeks...school got *** extended so we had to wait for our holiday..
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 16 June 2010, 23:10:10
Who dose everyone think is a good honest person that we should have rate the Factions?
I need ideas for the person. So far:

John D. H.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: John.d.h on 16 June 2010, 23:11:47
The problem is you would have to re-rate it each time there was a new release.  I don't know about everybody else, but I can't be bothered to download and play every release and provide substantial feedback.  I think the best/easiest way is to get some objective information from the developers themselves.  This would include things like whether or not there are new models, sounds, icons, etc.

I don't really know what all criteria we'd need, though.  Maybe wait for Trappin's opinion; he seems to know the score.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Gabbe on 16 June 2010, 23:12:04
WWI = GAE

I have something to message you about elim, something that less people need to know about...
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 16 June 2010, 23:17:37
OK HyperCube.
I say ultifd should rate them because he almost allways downloads them and even make some vids about them.
What do you guys say? (And would you do it ultifd?)
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Zoythrus on 16 June 2010, 23:19:40
you cant vote for mods that are not finished, because obviously, they are not finished. it would be unfair to them and those who create them

EDIT: i forgot to say, Seana's full name is Seanachaidh, but i just call him Seana. sorry about the confusion...
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 16 June 2010, 23:20:20
Yah, I know.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Gabbe on 16 June 2010, 23:20:32
why not take ultifds videos and see the ratings and rate from there?
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 16 June 2010, 23:22:43
Because people might rate on the quality of the video...

I say ultifd should rate them because he almost allways downloads them and even make some vids about them.
What do you guys say? (And would you do it ultifd?)
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 16 June 2010, 23:23:05
OK HyperCube.
I say ultifd should rate them because he almost allways downloads them and even make some vids about them.
What do you guys say? (And would you do it ultifd?)
Well I download 90% of them, but vids aren't that good...
I would, but...what do you want me to do? like give it #/10 for it?
I guess yeah, but I can not really give good reviews or opinions for it...Maybe I could do generally all of them, maybe, but if someone thinks they have a better review... they can submit it? (post)...

But... I am one of the people who thinks we don't really need ratings...  ::)
why not take ultifds videos and see the ratings and rate from there?
No, people don't rate them...for now,and  too generalistic, and the rating is usually on what I do in the video...besides bad framerate and such.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 16 June 2010, 23:39:36
If you did it It would be from 0 to 10.

If you don't want to do it I guess we could get someone else...
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 16 June 2010, 23:41:36
If you did it It would be from 0 to 10.

If you don't want to do it I guess we could get someone else...
OK, sure...but if it is just that I am sure it would be OK for someone like John to do it...
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 16 June 2010, 23:54:37
I can't be bothered to download and play every release and provide substantial feedback.
...
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 17 June 2010, 00:08:07
I can't be bothered to download and play every release and provide substantial feedback.
...
I think some of them he has already tried it recently, and if you are only asking for a simple "out of 10" rating then...not too bad right? others I can do...not only one person has to do them all...
...
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 17 June 2010, 01:25:34
Ok, Can ultifd rate the Legacy and Novelty ones, and John do the Compilation and Stand alone ones?
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: wyvern on 17 June 2010, 01:43:42
Ratings are un neccesary
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 17 June 2010, 01:46:30
Ratings are un neccesary
Mable to you but I like them, Ill post a poll to see what people want.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Trappin on 17 June 2010, 01:47:16
Nothing good will come from rating other peoples work unless the community establishes specific criteria by which each mod is measured. Rating discussions should be limited to the faction discussion threads.

Elimnator only slightly mischaracterized the progress on the WW1 mod and look at the butthurt that ensued -

Hey! why does it say not much is done!??! (WWI) we have like all the units ready, im just waiting for wyvern to finish the textures!
I just read it too and you got me angry the first release is nearly ready all its missing is the textures, Hypercube we'll add more aircraft and ships in the second release right.

We will see more of this when a mod gets a 5 rating - be careful of what you wish for.

Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 17 June 2010, 01:49:05
Ok, Can ultifd rate the Legacy and Novelty ones, and John do the Compilation and Stand alone ones?
OK, well...here are my ratings for now, and I haven't tried Science yet... though.
Military: 9/10
City: 7/10 ...(because of The bots (AI) don't realy do much. (if "fixed" then 8/10 ...  )
Whimsical Forest: 8/10
Quote
Bio, Nano, Influx  | Faction Discussion
By: Pullo
Description: This mod has all new models and is packeged as it own game. (A modified version of GAE) Its like in someones tummy with germs ans stuff.
Rating: N/A
Glest versions supported: Comes with supported version.
8/10 ...Cool and Original...  but it is actually Influx: Microbe Infestation ...not "Bio, Nano, Influx"...
Ratings are un neccesary
I agree, and you are the person who told us that we should have a topic like this...
Oh well, I will do them anyways, but I really think they are unnecessary...
Invaders: 7/10
SST: 7/10 cool but you know...if you have tried it...
Nihilirian: 8/10 or 7/10...8 because original, 7 because unbalanced...

Elementals: 6/10, but fun...somewhat...
Science: NA...
Nothing good will come from rating other peoples work unless the community establishes specific criteria by which each mod is measured. Rating discussions should be limited to the faction discussion threads.
Agreed... sighs*
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Omega on 17 June 2010, 03:25:40
I'm all for ratings, though why not use the MDC to let all of you guys rate? It averages all the ratings, so you could use that... on the other hand, its outdated, and my totally rad fix (wait for it!) won't be out till early July...

For the record, my ratings on a few (I don't rate military because I know I'd be biased for sure):

Megapack 10/10. While not every individual faction is perfect, there is a wide array of so many good ones in very good quality. Thats a perfect 10 in my book.

Dark Magic 9/10. All that hard work has paid off. Now if only they'd stop using some of the magitech icons... And why is the magic behemoth making a retextured appearance here?

Dwarfs 8.5/10. Despite some balance issues, the dwarfs is gorgeous and very nicely made. My rating might be outdated though, because I don't have the latest version, but not ALL that many changes from mine to the recent...

Romans 8/10. While not quite as graphically good as some of the others, I found this very fun to play. Some units feel a bit expensive, and I found it slightly overpowered, but very good mod all the same.

Nihilirian: 8/10. I found this to be very well modelled, especially since it was one of the first of its kind. Gameplay feels pretty mirrored between the factions and nobody can pronounce (least of all remember) the unit's names, but hey, its fun and original.

Science: 1/10. Why 1/10? Because I didn't have the heart to give it a zero... Badly sized units, joke moves, unfunctional parts, and lack of balance all add up to a bad score from me (can we go into the negatives?).
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: John.d.h on 17 June 2010, 04:03:20
Dark Magic 9/10. All that hard work has paid off. Now if only they'd stop using some of the magitech icons... And why is the magic behemoth making a retextured appearance here?
Is that damn thing still in there!? >:(  There's a fresh and fully-animated and textured Gargoyle floating around on the internet somewhere that's supposed to replace it.

I really liked Nihilirian, except the factions felt so out of balance and the AI didn't use the other faction worth anything.  The art and the general idea were both great, though.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 17 June 2010, 04:08:57
Dark Magic 9/10. All that hard work has paid off. Now if only they'd stop using some of the magitech icons... And why is the magic behemoth making a retextured appearance here?
Is that damn thing still in there!? >:(  There's a fresh and fully-animated and textured Gargoyle floating around on the internet somewhere that's supposed to replace it.
No, the lastest version or so has the fully animated and textured...one...  ::)
I am like...99% sure. 99.9?  :|
...
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 17 June 2010, 05:16:42
Can you talk about dark_magic in its thread?

Science: 1/10. Why 1/10? Because I didn't have the heart to give it a zero... Badly sized units, joke moves, unfunctional parts, and lack of balance all add up to a bad score from me (can we go into the negatives?).
Yah,  :O No negatives.

We should rate them based on:

New Models / good or bad ones.
New Textures / good or bad ones.
Good or bad anims.
New icons / good or bad.
New sound / good or bad.
How the AI plays.
Fairness / unfairness of faction.
Good or bad particles and splashes.

Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Omega on 17 June 2010, 05:19:56
Dark Magic 9/10. All that hard work has paid off. Now if only they'd stop using some of the magitech icons... And why is the magic behemoth making a retextured appearance here?
Is that damn thing still in there!? >:(  There's a fresh and fully-animated and textured Gargoyle floating around on the internet somewhere that's supposed to replace it.
No, the lastest version or so has the fully animated and textured...one...  ::)
I am like...99% sure. 99.9?  :|
...
Oh dear... I must have an old version. Disregard that rating please.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 17 June 2010, 05:53:11
DM: It's cool... (Also, I checked, and yeah, not the retextured...etc.)
We should rate them based on:

New Models / good or bad ones.
New Textures / good or bad ones.
Good or bad anims.
New icons / good or bad.
New sound / good or bad.
How the AI plays.
Fairness / unfairness of faction.
Good or bad particles and splashes.
Yeah...
Mainline Quality Standards
What are they?
This is simply an easier way to rate factions.  The standard is the quality which standard factions should meet.  We are constantly raising the bar, which means the mods should be expected to be better.  However, factions that no longer meet the standards but once did will not be removed.  Factions that never met the standards will never appear here, though.

XMLs: It is expected that factions have no bugs, and that each unit is specialized for its faction; that is, not just renamed from another faction.
Audio: It is expected that factions have original music soundtracks for the faction, whose theme is appropriate to the faction as well.  An attempt at unit sounds should be made as well.
2D Art: It is expected that factions have original images which depict their respective unit or faction theme.
3D Models: It is expected that factions have original models, and at least a majority of the units have been modeled or modified geometrically.  Models should be respectably well done, and there should be an appropriate amount of polygons.
I still think we don't need ratings...seriously... people can decide themselves, or use Omega's MDC...  ::)
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 17 June 2010, 07:08:57
I still think we don't need ratings...seriously... people can decide themselves, or use Omega's MDC...  ::)
MDC?

There will be no rating iv the vote is mostly no.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 17 June 2010, 07:10:31
I still think we don't need ratings...seriously... people can decide themselves, or use Omega's MDC...  ::)
MDC?

There will be no rating iv the vote is mostly no.
Omega's Mod Download Center, which I hear is getting an update next month???  :|
Well, it is going to be close...  :|
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: -Archmage- on 17 June 2010, 10:38:09
John has a point, and Ultifd doesn't care about the ratings. I agree ratings are useless, good powerful descriptions would be much more useful.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Trappin on 17 June 2010, 13:56:35
Woodsman should be moved from the incomplete category and placed in the stand alone list - its one of Glest's best custom factions. Why is military listed as a novelty mod?
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: -Archmage- on 17 June 2010, 14:32:28
Quote
Why is military listed as a novelty mod?

Because the military mod is novelty, the real military is little like the military mod.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 17 June 2010, 16:26:00
Because the military mod is novelty, the real military is little like the military mod.
Right.
Woodsman should be moved from the incomplete category and placed in the stand alone list - its one of Glest's best custom factions. Why is military listed as a novelty mod?
I couldn't find the newest download, can some one point me to it?
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 17 June 2010, 16:55:24
If we rate, I think we should rate like this:

New Models                                1p
Good or Models.                           1P
New Textures                              1p
Good or bad Textures.                   1p
Good or bad anims.                        1p
New icons.                                   1p
New sound and music.                    1p
How the AI plays.                          1p
Fairness / unfairness of faction.       1p
Good particles and splashes.           1p

What do you think?

[/quote]
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: -Archmage- on 17 June 2010, 17:57:04
What about music and blah blah blah?
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: cooldude21 on 17 June 2010, 19:03:44
Thank u for this list

I tried military and the megapack!!! :) :) :)
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 17 June 2010, 19:30:23
Thank u for this list

I tried military and the megapack!!! :) :) :)
Only M's huh.

What about music and blah blah blah?
Ill ad music, and blah blah blah? Whats that?
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: -Archmage- on 17 June 2010, 19:56:42
It's a "etc", American style! :P
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Gabbe on 17 June 2010, 19:58:45
blah blahdah blah bladfah blah blah blah, isn`t there a artist singing that? kesha? keisha?

OT/ sorry... :P

look! military is closing in on megapack!
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 17 June 2010, 21:05:21
look! military is closing in on megapack!
That top thing means nothing, its just what people like best. Not whats the best quality.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 17 June 2010, 23:52:31
...people love to go OT.
Anyways,
Woodsman should be moved from the incomplete category and placed in the stand alone list - its one of Glest's best custom factions. Why is military listed as a novelty mod?
I couldn't find the newest download, can some one point me to it?
Hmm...first post, oh well, I guess helping  you would be nice...  :)
http://www.filefront.com/14984347/woodsmen-0.9.5.zip (http://www.filefront.com/14984347/woodsmen-0.9.5.zip)

Here it is folks. The first second, unfinished release of Woodsmen.
One of the best, but uncompleted ones...
Awesome.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Trappin on 18 June 2010, 00:32:16
Quote
Because the military mod is novelty, the real military is little like the military mod.

Haha, thats funny! You just compared a game to real life! Classic! By this logic all mods should be listed under the novelty category. What criteria did you apply to arrive at this conclusion? How is the Roman faction more "real" than Omega's military mod?  I think you and Eliminator need to be a bit more objective about other peoples work or at least apply the same standards to your own mods.


Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 18 June 2010, 00:43:20
What dose novelty mean?
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: wyvern on 18 June 2010, 00:45:28
unique, special, original something like that.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Omega on 18 June 2010, 01:14:27
look! military is closing in on megapack!
*Well, despite the little discussion in the topic, I guess people do download it.  :D*

Definitions of Novelty: (http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Anovelty&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a)
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 18 June 2010, 05:27:06
Do you think military is novelty Omega?
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 18 June 2010, 05:36:24
I have a question...what is the poll in this thread for? ...  :|
John has a point, and Ultifd doesn't care about the ratings. I agree ratings are useless, good powerful descriptions would be much more useful.
I agree, but I do care... oh well. We'll see...
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 18 June 2010, 15:52:46
I have a question...what is the poll in this thread for? ...  :|
Nothing really, just vote for your favorites.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 18 June 2010, 19:31:33
I have a question...what is the poll in this thread for? ...  :|
Nothing really, just vote for your favorites.
I see, well, woodsmen is one of my favorites and I can't re-vote...  ::)
oh well.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Omega on 18 June 2010, 22:22:59
Do you think military is novelty Omega?
Hmm, yes. It uses many of the features in GAE and is the first complete GAE mod. Therefor, it introduced all those nice GAE elements that we've never really seen before. Thus, yes it's new, so yes, it is novel.


I changed the poll so people can change their votes. I hope that's ok.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 18 June 2010, 22:48:36
I changed the poll so people can change their votes. I hope that's ok.
Thank you, changed my vote now.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 18 June 2010, 22:48:40
I had it like that but when I add an option it changed, and there is no way to make it back after the topic is started.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Omega on 18 June 2010, 22:59:54
(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7945/82617268.png)
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 19 June 2010, 01:11:24
This is what it looks like for me:
(http://i784.photobucket.com/albums/yy127/Elimiator/poll.jpg?t=1276909832)
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 19 June 2010, 01:16:34
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7945/82617268.png
OK, thanks, great guide, but we have to be a moderator or admin to do that...or have that option (for now, I think) ... great guide for later, I guess?  :|
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Gabbe on 19 June 2010, 09:39:54
omega, i also have this "problem" if it not ment to be like this.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 19 June 2010, 18:46:41
Yeah...obviously, you aren't a moderator or an admin....
Searching on SMF about this, can't find anything...
Hmm, I thought Omega already knew  that only...mods and admins can have that...
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Gabbe on 19 June 2010, 18:51:55
methinks he missed the video about it...and the disguission...and the suggestion in the board updates topic...
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 19 June 2010, 18:54:21
methinks he missed the video about it...and the disguission...and the suggestion in the board updates topic...
No one discussed about it...video?  :| oh, until now! (discussion)
Anyways, hmm...about the ratings...
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Gabbe on 19 June 2010, 18:57:25
https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5327.50 (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5327.50)
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 19 June 2010, 18:58:44
https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5327.50 (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5327.50)
That was OT, how would he remember? I think he only remembered about runescape...stuff.
OT like now, kinda.
Sorry Eliminator.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Gabbe on 19 June 2010, 19:01:43
My amazon isn`t up there still... ::) ::) :|
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: John.d.h on 19 June 2010, 19:06:21
My amazon isn`t up there still... ::) ::) :|
It would probably be more convenient if you provided a link. ::)
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Gabbe on 19 June 2010, 19:08:31
he has asked and he knows the link is there, i have answered  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 19 June 2010, 19:10:47
Then wait for him, not all of us are bots, ya know...  :|
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 19 June 2010, 19:39:35
Yah, I'm not on 24 / 7, Ill add in now though.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Gabbe on 19 June 2010, 19:40:42
im on 25/8 why can`t you? anyways, thanks for havin git!
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 20 June 2010, 06:52:16
Hmm, ok, now that you updated Romans, can you update the "FDC" now,  :thumbup:
Cool. Although I don't know why you didn't link to Romans 3 before...
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 20 June 2010, 16:50:19
OK, done.  :)
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 20 June 2010, 23:12:53
OK, done.  :)
Thanks.  :)
So how about ratings... yes or no?  :|
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 21 June 2010, 01:07:51
No I gues, to bad...
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Omega on 23 June 2010, 00:22:12
By the way, it's worth mentioning that when a WIP mod dies, it should be removed from the incomplete list, lest people still think it's in development. This does (obviously) not apply to completed mods.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 23 June 2010, 00:28:53
Yeah, true, but some mods, like woodsmen or Dark Magic are like that, but they are somewhat finished too...almost
Dwarves, is like that too.
Maybe only the mods that don't have enough content...etc.

So, ratings? Do we need to wait another week?...Just wondering...
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ChupaReaper on 23 June 2010, 13:02:07
Going all the way back to the first post lol, Malevolent Rising is for GAE and should be released soon. It's also a pack of factions (target of 5 factions), tilesets and a menu change, basically a TC (Total Conversion) of Glest.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 23 June 2010, 16:02:38
Nope the vote was 4 for rating, 6 for not.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 23 June 2010, 18:25:05
Going all the way back to the first post lol, Malevolent Rising is for GAE and should be released soon. It's also a pack of factions (target of 5 factions), tilesets and a menu change, basically a TC (Total Conversion) of Glest.
I see, cool, like Military, City, or... etc.  :|
 :thumbup:
Nope the vote was 4 for rating, 6 for not.
Well...

Ok Eliminator, how about Fluffy's mod?  :|
https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=4940.0   
Animal Cruelity
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 24 June 2010, 03:55:18
Ok I added it, thanks.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 26 June 2010, 16:03:51
Cool, thanks I guess...
Sun an moon (http://www.mediafire.com/file/jgzvneztjkq/solunar_0.2.1.7z) | Faction Discussion (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=3811.0)
By: John.d.h
Description:  An original faction with new models but is currently under development.
Glest versions supported: N/A
Anyways time to fix that typo, right?  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 26 June 2010, 17:07:21
O yah, didn't see it.  ;)
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: wyvern on 29 June 2010, 13:39:59
two factions that I believe were never finished are missing, flyff and swift.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 29 June 2010, 16:23:50
two factions that I believe were never finished are missing, flyff and swift.
Never heard of them, is there a download for ether?
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: wyvern on 29 June 2010, 16:31:23
Not sure, but I have both on my computer and if someone finds their creators, I think flyff belongs to verarticus, I'll upload. :) :)
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 29 June 2010, 17:30:02
Hmm sounds cool. It needs to be at least "playable" though...  :|
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: wyvern on 29 June 2010, 17:31:47
Flyff is completely playable but lacks anything new other then xmls.
swift is playable if you change the name of the faction, I renamed it to japanese because it has ninjas, samurai etc, no new models but some retextures it also contains hero units  :)
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 29 June 2010, 17:50:27
I see, well, I guess we'll see too.  ;)
Shouldn't hurt, cause even the slightest change is nice...Although I think now I would like Swift better then...  :|
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: wyvern on 29 June 2010, 17:53:12
I'll upload tomorrow I feel really lazy right now and I need to alter some of the files to make it work :| :|
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 29 June 2010, 18:04:09
OK, thanks for your time.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: wyvern on 29 June 2010, 18:05:52
Sure, now its having some trouble running the resource requirements for the faction :( :(
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 30 June 2010, 16:48:24
Just upload It and Ill se what I can do.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ChupaReaper on 30 June 2010, 20:40:32
My project is up for download now, it's big though around 500megs, extracting to around a gig.
Download time: 35mins to an hour, longer on slower connections.
Extract time: A minute or so.

I'll be uploading an installer for windows later on which should be around the same size.
It's large due to large textures some complex models with a lot of animation frames and a lot of sounds. Reducing all that would make it look crappy after seeing it all nice and glossy lol!
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Omega on 1 July 2010, 21:32:22
My project is up for download now, it's big though around 500megs, extracting to around a gig.
Download time: 35mins to an hour, longer on slower connections.
Extract time: A minute or so.

I'll be uploading an installer for windows later on which should be around the same size.
It's large due to large textures some complex models with a lot of animation frames and a lot of sounds. Reducing all that would make it look crappy after seeing it all nice and glossy lol!
500 MB COMPRESSED!?!?!?

Good god, you must be kidding me... Nobody can download a 500mb mod! :o

Honestly, what project is this to need such insane filesize? No offense, but I for one, am not going to go downloading a 500mb file unless the filesize is completely justified. From the quality of models, in say, magitech, 500MB would be about 400 units.

Interesting:
Filesize of magitech compressed: 41MB
Number of units in magitech: 37
Average filesize per unit: 1.1MB
500MB File at 1.1MB a unit: 455 units
:P
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 1 July 2010, 21:33:56
Is that a record? If not it will be...
Well as I said in my other post...it will take at least 1 hour and a half for me.  :| At least.
I can.
Well, this post at least was somewhat on topic...till Omega...  ::) oh well...

Omega: cause the models are HQ...  :-\
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Omega on 1 July 2010, 22:22:47
Well, going back on topic, should simply retextured/reXMLed "mods" (I don't honestly consider it a mod. I mean, you [abet, poorly] modified someone elses mod...) actually be on here?

I say a big fat NO. Reserve this for mods of at least a certain quality. At least a few new models...

I won't be downloading that. I don't have 5 hours to waste.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ChupaReaper on 1 July 2010, 23:40:22
My project is up for download now, it's big though around 500megs, extracting to around a gig.
Download time: 35mins to an hour, longer on slower connections.
Extract time: A minute or so.

I'll be uploading an installer for windows later on which should be around the same size.
It's large due to large textures some complex models with a lot of animation frames and a lot of sounds. Reducing all that would make it look crappy after seeing it all nice and glossy lol!
500 MB COMPRESSED!?!?!?

Good god, you must be kidding me... Nobody can download a 500mb mod! :o

Honestly, what project is this to need such insane filesize? No offense, but I for one, am not going to go downloading a 500mb file unless the filesize is completely justified. From the quality of models, in say, magitech, 500MB would be about 400 units.

Interesting:
Filesize of magitech compressed: 41MB
Number of units in magitech: 37
Average filesize per unit: 1.1MB
500MB File at 1.1MB a unit: 455 units
:P

Very different in my mod:
Average Model Size: 5MB
Average Texture Size: 3MB
Average Sounds Size: 0.8MB

Along with a load of other stuff like shared unit resources, tilesets, menu changes and one stupidly long music track it all adds up. Models have ~60 frames per model (for each animation that means and each unit has ~4). Then model textures around normally 512x512 to 1024x1024, and the poly count isn't stupidly huge but isn't tiny. Units have a lot of high quality sounds too ranging from 10-30 or more sounds per unit but similar units will share each other sounds. The GUI icons are normally 128x128 too (in case it is redone to use higher resolution images for better quality, etc). Is it worth the file size? Well I think so I love the high quality of it all and though it isn't compulsory, reducing the quality would make a sever difference to the look of the mod, are looks that important, well to me they are but also so is the structure such as the tactics involved.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: John.d.h on 2 July 2010, 00:09:20
Well, going back on topic, should simply retextured/reXMLed "mods" (I don't honestly consider it a mod. I mean, you [abet, poorly] modified someone elses mod...) actually be on here?

I say a big fat NO. Reserve this for mods of at least a certain quality. At least a few new models...
I'm undecided about whether or not they should be included, but if they are to be included, they should be listed in a separate category.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 2 July 2010, 00:39:11
Well I updated the center.  :)
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 2 July 2010, 01:38:09
For what? For what Omega was talking about? Well I agree...
but if you do mean that, you forgot some mods...elementals for one..
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 2 July 2010, 06:31:49
Quote
Elementals | Faction Discussion
By: Archmage101
Description: A totally finished tech tree  balanced well and based off of Titi's work, using his models.  The models are reskinned to match the themes of the factions.
Glest versions supported: MG, GAE, vanilla.

It is there...
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 2 July 2010, 06:36:34
Well, going back on topic, should simply retextured/reXMLed "mods" (I don't honestly consider it a mod. I mean, you [abet, poorly] modified someone elses mod...) actually be on here?

I say a big fat NO. Reserve this for mods of at least a certain quality. At least a few new models...

I won't be downloading that. I don't have 5 hours to waste.
Elementals= Just retextured...basically. No offense to Arch...Besides, you do know that the download link is not valid...do you check before you add Eliminator? Oh well, but that is just one more reason...  :|
For what? For what Omega was talking about? Well I agree...
but if you do mean that, you forgot some mods...elementals for one..

ChupaReaper: Hmm...well in the end I guess we just need to find time...  :|

I'm undecided about whether or not they should be included, but if they are to be included, they should be listed in a separate category.
If they are, yeah...  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 2 July 2010, 06:39:56
Well can you post a working link? if not I will half to remove it... Not that good any ways..
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 2 July 2010, 06:43:11
Well, just that it fits what Omega said...
Umm, I have it, but when I try to upload it I can't for some reason.
If anything that I upload that is not a video, and somewhat big, then I get a error when uploading it to mediafire or filefront... anyways, just remove it...for now, or put it like into a different category like John said...  :|
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: emscape on 2 July 2010, 12:31:30
sorry, but my story mod should be included in incomplete mods i sink?

thx
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 2 July 2010, 17:11:51
OK done.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: wyvern on 2 July 2010, 20:34:15
https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=4199.0
Eliminator, heres a mod I accidentaly bumped into, its fun but there is almost nothing new ::) ::)
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 2 July 2010, 20:36:48
It basically fits to Omega's "class" of mods...trust me, it does.  :|
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 2 July 2010, 20:58:23
That mod is not worth putting on the page. Dose any one disagree?
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 2 July 2010, 20:59:30
Because it fits what Omega said... right? Or just by looking at it...  :|
...
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: -Archmage- on 3 July 2010, 04:55:18
I don't care what happens to Elementals, that mod is far behind me, it's just something I made for fun when I was newer to the forums. ::)

As for mod classification, I think all mods should be included that are downloadable and playable. Classifying the mods into categories like 'Light Mod', 'Major Mod', and 'Mod Packs/Compilations'.........and maybe an 'Other' category would be good in my opinion. :)
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: John.d.h on 3 July 2010, 06:42:38
Maybe we could have a multi-tier system?  What I'm thinking of is something like this:


The good thing about this is that it isn't based on opinions like a regular ratings system, but rather just objective criteria (are x, y, and z in this mod, yes or no?), so there's not as much room for drama or bias.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: wciow on 3 July 2010, 11:19:35
Good idea John.  :)

Personally I would classify Dark Magic as Gold. Although it is rough around the edges it uses 99% original content.

By this standard you would also have to classify Titi's megapack as silver, despite being the most highly regarded and rated mod on this site!
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: -Archmage- on 3 July 2010, 13:02:47
I think gold should be 90% new content.

And what about quality? Where will that fit into your system?

I like it though. :)
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: wyvern on 3 July 2010, 14:20:00
just to point this out but mk2 will be old factions but the additions will be mostly new, gervoriath will be mostly new as well, second of all its WIP right now, where are elves on that list, and I agree with the system John posted.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Gabbe on 3 July 2010, 14:56:48
have DHs system, it works.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: wyvern on 3 July 2010, 15:51:08
This is OT, but is solunar mod still under development
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Gabbe on 3 July 2010, 15:53:51
wyvern are digging up old mods ::) :| ;)
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: wyvern on 3 July 2010, 15:56:15
Thats kind of true, but hey, they kinda deserve recognition don't they, and some of them are fun to play, I forgot to upload flyff and swift, sorry, I'll upload flyff and follow up with swift once its done being fixed by me ::) ::)
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: John.d.h on 3 July 2010, 20:09:57
Personally I would classify Dark Magic as Gold. Although it is rough around the edges it uses 99% original content.
As I recall, there are few if any new sounds, so that's what brought it down.

where are elves on that list
You tell me.  I haven't played it. :P

This is OT, but is solunar mod still under development
Yup.  Just to clarify, Solunar is the same thing as Sun and Moon.  I usually use the Solunar name now, because there is already another mod called Moon.

Quote from: wciow
By this standard you would also have to classify Titi's megapack as silver, despite being the most highly regarded and rated mod on this site!
And what about quality? Where will that fit into your system?
This is just for categorization and only works with empirical data, whereas a quality-based rating system works with people's opinions of what's good or bad.  I don't think there's any reason the two couldn't go exist, though.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: wyvern on 3 July 2010, 23:56:07
Personally I would classify Dark Magic as Gold. Although it is rough around the edges it uses 99% original content.
As I recall, there are few if any new sounds, so that's what brought it down.

where are elves on that list
You tell me.  I haven't played it. :P

This is OT, but is solunar mod still under development
Yup.  Just to clarify, Solunar is the same thing as Sun and Moon.  I usually use the Solunar name now, because there is already another mod called Moon.

Quote from: wciow
By this standard you would also have to classify Titi's megapack as silver, despite being the most highly regarded and rated mod on this site!
And what about quality? Where will that fit into your system?
This is just for categorization and only works with empirical data, whereas a quality-based rating system works with people's opinions of what's good or bad.  I don't think there's any reason the two couldn't go exist, though.
I'd make elves silver :) :)
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 4 July 2010, 01:52:59
What is the "tier:" at the end for?

New models: 1 pt
New sounds:1 pt
Good anims: 1 pt
New icons: 1pt
New and Good textures: 1pt
How it looks and plays in game, (AI, particles ect..): 1 pt

gold      6pt
sliver     4pt
Bronze   2pt
Stone    0pt

What do you say?
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: -Archmage- on 4 July 2010, 02:23:31
Quote
What do you say?

I copied what you wrote and made a few changes. :)


New Models:  |-2:none||0:few||1: some||2: most/all|
Model Quality: |-1:crap||1:tolerable||2:good||4:great!!!|
Texture Quality: |-4:what textures?||0:one/few colors||2:a tolerable texture||3:good||4=very good||5=Realistic!!!|
Animation Quality: |-5: Animations? where?||-1:That's an animation!?||1:repetitive looking, and rigid||2:not too bad...||3:good||4:smooth and pretty good||5:very realistic looking, maybe some slight issues...|
Can the AI play it: |-5:nope||0:yep|
Particle Effects: |0:don't see any.......||1:very basic or causes lagggggggg||2:not bad....||3:good||4:great||5:PERFECT!!!!|
New Icons: |-1:no||1=yes|
Icon Quality/Visibility: |-2: can't see the icons||-1:I can't tell what they are...||1: not bad...||2:good||3:how do you do that?!|
New music: |-1:no||1:yes|
Music Quality: |-1:bad||1:not bad...||2:good||3:great!|
Balanced: |-3:terrible||0: a little off, but still fun||1: balanced well enough||2:balanced perfectly!|

Platinum: 29+
Gold:       26-28
Sliver:     20-25
Bronze:  12-19
Stone:    6-11
Lead:      0-5


How about this?
Maybe a little too complex.........
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: John.d.h on 4 July 2010, 03:10:57
The system I proposed was just for breaking things up into classifications.  For the opinion stuff, there would have to be something else.  I think maybe that's where we could have somebody review each mod and give some ratings. 

Criteria for ratings:

0-10% Models
0-10% Textures
0-10% Animations
0-10% Sounds
0-10% Music
0-10% Icons
0-10% AI
0-10% Particles
0-10% Balance
0-10% Misc
=0-100% overall rating

Grades:
A=90-100%
B=80-89%
C=70-79%
D=60-69%
F=0-59%

So for example, things could look something like this:

Gold tier:
Dogs: This mod includes two factions, Corgies and Dalmatians.
* John.d.h gives this mod an A.
Quote from: John.d.h
This is a review.  Let's pretend it's a few paragraphs long.
* HopScotch gives this mod a B.
Quote from: HopScotch
Ditto, but some of the barking sounds were kinda annoying, and I didn't care for the animations.  Also, the Dalmatians' Fire Truck unit was way over-powered.
<!-- more mods go here -->

Silver tier:
<!--
You get the idea.
-->
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 4 July 2010, 04:48:03
I like the rating system but if there are reviews I think the post would be too long and I don't want to have so many ranks because again it will make the post long:

Platinum:
Gold:     
Sliver:   
Bronze:
Stone: 
Lead:   
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: John.d.h on 4 July 2010, 05:27:59
I like the rating system but if there are reviews I think the post would be too long and I don't want to have so many ranks because again it will make the post long:
That's true.  I'd prefer to just keep Gold, Silver, Bronze, and Stone or Lead.  Maybe we could put the reviews in a different topic and just put the final grade in this one?

Gold tier:

Dogs:
Download (http://www.myspace.com/brianpeppers) | Discussion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevie_Ray_Vaughan)
By: HopScotch
Description: This mod includes two factions, Corgies and Dalmatians.
Engines supported: Vanilla, GAE, MG
Reviews: Review by RawkFÿst (http://example.com/) | Review by Flo-Jay (http://johndh.deviantart.com/)
Average grade: 87% B
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Omega on 4 July 2010, 23:10:21
I like john's rating method. I dunno if we could review most of these things, and there would be confusion about who rates what, but I like the grading system. What is the 10% for misc though? I suppose it could be novelty of the faction (ie: how unique or new is it? Does it feel like a recycled stereotype, or is it totally unique and new?).
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: John.d.h on 5 July 2010, 00:56:27
What is the 10% for misc though? I suppose it could be novelty of the faction (ie: how unique or new is it? Does it feel like a recycled stereotype, or is it totally unique and new?).
That, and/or just any other miscellaneous thing that grabs the graders' attention as good or bad.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 5 July 2010, 06:47:13
Ratings are back, huh? Oh well, that's fine.
John's system is good.
This is OT, but is solunar mod still under development
:P Could post in the thread itself, but maybe next time you'll learn?  :|  :P
I think it is under development...just somewhat at a slow pace. Better then abandoned mods though, or ideas itself.  :|
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Omega on 5 July 2010, 23:39:06
Is this going to be separate from the faction reviews and gradings, or is the gradings and reviews going into here? Because if the gradings and reviews are going into here (which I recommend, since they should all be in the same place, rather than two separate lists of topics) then we don't need to sticky the 'Faction Reviews and Gradings...' because we simply use it to link to the reviews...

Or...? :confused:
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: John.d.h on 5 July 2010, 23:41:16
I think we're just sticking the other one until we sort out a review/grading system. :look:
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 6 July 2010, 00:41:20
Hmm...Arch was the one who created that thread so I am  :| ...
BTW, Eliminator, I think G.I.S. was updated, I mean it was...do you update them if they are updated? Not sure...  :|
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 6 July 2010, 04:37:34
Yes I do.  :)
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: -Archmage- on 6 July 2010, 13:43:53
Quote
I think we're just sticking the other one until we sort out a review/grading system. Look

Yea. :thumbup:
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 7 July 2010, 19:36:38
Eliminator, you should probably delete  your Ratings topic, as it has no point now...cause...we are having ratings now, and the poll...well I guess it does not even matter.  :| oh well.
EDIT: Sorta of a mod the story mod.
https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=4790.0
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 7 July 2010, 21:01:47
The rating topic isn't mine, Its archmages.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 7 July 2010, 21:03:19
The rating topic isn't mine, Its archmages.
https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5627.0
...
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 7 July 2010, 21:12:54
Any way how should we rate the packs? 1 faction has good sounds but bad models, and 1 faction has no sound but cool models...
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: John.d.h on 7 July 2010, 21:29:17
We could rate each faction separately, but I don't think that's really necessary.  Just use your best judgment, I guess.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Omega on 7 July 2010, 23:18:15
Wow, thrown down to bronze... I would like to see how the rating system works?

Assuming you are using this:
Quote
0-10% Models
0-10% Textures
0-10% Animations
0-10% Sounds
0-10% Music
0-10% Icons
0-10% AI
0-10% Particles
0-10% Balance
0-10% Personal feel toward any aspects of the mod...
=0-100% overall rating

Platinum: 95%+
Gold:      85-95 %
Silver:     60-84 %
Bronze:    30-59 %
Stone:     10-29 %
Lead:      0-9 %
Wip:    Unfinished
Abandonware:    Mods that have been abandoned at any stage of development.
I would really like to protest... I know the anims aren't the best, and the improved sounds haven't been released yet, but 30-59%? I do think it is better than that. >:(
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 8 July 2010, 00:44:07
NO, NO, Nothing has been rated I just updated the level names Its random right now.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: wyvern on 8 July 2010, 01:19:25
I hate to say this but megapack shouldn't be gold, I'm really sorry to say this since its one of my favorite mods, I'm saying this cuz some of the models aren't new and neither are the sounds, some animations aren't new either :( :(, kinda sad since its definitely one of the best and most popular mods but I just thought I should point this out.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 8 July 2010, 01:22:22
It is Gold for me, since I also compare it to other factions/mods too. Mods can be good and all, have their own sounds, but they have to be fun too, and some mods kinda are not so fun...which is why I still don't think we need ratings. After all, there was a poll, but I guess we don't listen to them anymore, or since we have a good rating system, discard it right?  :|
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Omega on 8 July 2010, 02:23:26
This is the big problem. We can't really follow the gradings, and even when we can, some of the best mods won't necessarily fit into these gradings...

So... scrap or revamp?
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 8 July 2010, 02:50:12
The only problem is the rating of packs, I DIDN'T RATE ANY THING YET! the faction positions are random!
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Omega on 8 July 2010, 03:07:16
*Confused* :confused: :confused: :confused:
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 8 July 2010, 03:31:37
Do we really need ratings anyways?  :| I thought we had a simple poll for that,  :| ...Oh well.
The problem with ratings is...people judge for themselves. The other bigger problem is that everyone has different opinions, sometimes, on a mod or so...well, that is the main problem with ratings, well related anyways. That rating system is nice though...Oops, I think that is what "overwrited" the poll.  :|

Faction positions? No one was talking about that...
*Confused* :confused: :confused: :confused:
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ChupaReaper on 8 July 2010, 10:55:44
Can you change the link for Malevolent Rising as it leads to an up to date but bad host version (zShare's a bit slow and has a waiting time).
Can you change it to here:
http://darkspectral.zxq.net/Games/MRiseReleases.html
It leads to the download area of my website which has all the links and will be kept up to date.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: wyvern on 8 July 2010, 15:01:30
I think that ratings are a kinda dumb idea in the first place, first of all its not necessarily based on the mods popularity so megapack for example would be somewhere around bronze instead of platinum/gold that everyone thinks it is, I think that a simple survey of how many stars you give a mod(sort of like glest guide). for example, Bob gives megapack five stars, but then Billy comes along and gives it four stars meaning that now the mod is rated at four and a half stars, I think this would be the best rating system, instead of stars people could post thumbs up or smileys and it could be a scale of 1-5 or 1-10
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: -Archmage- on 8 July 2010, 15:07:01
I think that ratings are a kinda dumb idea in the first place, first of all its not necessarily based on the mods popularity so megapack for example would be somewhere around bronze instead of platinum/gold that everyone thinks it is, I think that a simple survey of how many stars you give a mod(sort of like glest guide). for example, Bob gives megapack five stars, but then Billy comes along and gives it four stars meaning that now the mod is rated at four and a half stars, I think this would be the best rating system, instead of stars people could post thumbs up or smileys and it could be a scale of 1-5 or 1-10

Why is it that after we debate and settle on something that everyone comes forward with the opposition?
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: wyvern on 8 July 2010, 15:08:37
after somethings settled then the problems with the system start appearing.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: -Archmage- on 8 July 2010, 15:25:04
after somethings settled then the problems with the system start appearing.

When it settles is when you start thinking about it, when we actually use the system, that's when the problems present themselves.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 8 July 2010, 16:02:55
OK Ill change the download and re arrange the factions.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: John.d.h on 8 July 2010, 19:21:25
I think that ratings are a kinda dumb idea in the first place, first of all its not necessarily based on the mods popularity so megapack for example would be somewhere around bronze instead of platinum/gold that everyone thinks it is, I think that a simple survey of how many stars you give a mod(sort of like glest guide). for example, Bob gives megapack five stars, but then Billy comes along and gives it four stars meaning that now the mod is rated at four and a half stars, I think this would be the best rating system, instead of stars people could post thumbs up or smileys and it could be a scale of 1-5 or 1-10
Just because something is popular doesn't mean it's good and something unpopular can be just as good or better.  Sure, Megapack is good, but a lot of its popularity comes from its being included in MG, so going by popularity isn't a good way of rating quality.  There might be something that's great, but just not as well-known, so it would get a lower rating, and that's not right or fair.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: wyvern on 8 July 2010, 19:23:42
I think everything here on this forum is pretty well known at least by the active members
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 8 July 2010, 19:33:16
What was that purpose of that Ratings Yes or No poll, anyways?  :| ...Now we have a good system or so, just "discard" it right?  :| Just cause the new one is totally different and "better"...
Oh well, now we will have even more problems later...  :|
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: John.d.h on 8 July 2010, 19:36:18
Let's just see how it goes.  If people get all butthurt and bitchy about it, then we can drop it.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: wyvern on 8 July 2010, 19:40:12
Whatever ::)
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 8 July 2010, 19:43:12
OK, I'm just saying...is this really better for the community? The future one, anyways. where are the ratings.  :|
Oh well, we'll see. Hopefully this won't happen in the future, disregarding...stuff. Wait, no possibility for that.  :|
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: John.d.h on 8 July 2010, 19:57:14
Better to try something and actually know if it works, rather than just theorizing about it. ::)
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 8 July 2010, 20:00:06
Alright, whatever. Just a pretty good prediction...

So G.I.S. is not Abandonware. They had a new version...ugh don't judge...anyways check out Mod DB...
Quote
Glest In Space | Faction Discussion
By: Coldfusionstorm
Description: In this faction you are controlling spaceships in space, It has it own models and tile-set.
Glest versions supported: MG, GAE, vanilla.
Unless Abandonware= Recent releases.
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Winter Men. Silver. Their color yeah...well...how are they silver again? They have that nice model, but that is about it...

Time for judging the cats. categories, and revs. reviews.  :|
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: -Archmage- on 8 July 2010, 20:25:06
Remember to state what version of a mod you're judging, k. ;)
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 8 July 2010, 21:58:30
What ever the download is, is the version I am jugging. Can Jhon D. H., Omega, Archmage, Ultifd, or Titi rate my factions and packs?

Criteria for ratings:

0-10% Models
0-10% Textures
0-10% Animations
0-10% Sounds
0-10% Music
0-10% Icons
0-10% AI
0-10% Particles
0-10% Balance
0-10% Misc
=0-100% overall rating

Gold:      90 pt
Silver:     60 pt
Bronze:    30 pt
Stone:     10 pt
Wip:    Unfinished
Abandonware:    Mods that have a download but have been abandoned.

Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Omega on 8 July 2010, 22:08:37
Couldn't there be a break down of HOW the factions were rated? After all, that way we can see what needs to be improved.

ie: here's a personal rating of the megapack (as in MG):

9 Models
9 Textures
9 Animations
9 Sounds
10 Music
8.5 Icons
8 AI
10 Particles
7.5 Balance
10 Personal feel toward any aspects of the mod...
=90 overall rating

As we can see, the lowest area is balance, thus that can be worked on.

If I were to grade military (probably biased, made it myself. NOTE: This is for the newest version, which has updated models, particles, and sounds, and unfortunately, has no been released yet :P):

8 Models
9 Textures
7 Animations
8.5 Sounds
10 Music
8 Icons
9 AI
9 Particles
10 Balance (well, it DOES play against itself :P Perhaps balance shouldn't be graded for single faction mods? An alternative marking system for them?)
10 Personal feel toward any aspects of the mod... (this is biased. I made it, so it's tailored to me)
=88.5 overall rating (bearing in mind the biased nature (see my notes) and the fact this is based for the newest WIP version)

EDIT// Note: Two replies were posted while I was typing. I don't take into aspect them :P
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: John.d.h on 8 July 2010, 22:09:25
Should a do a review real quick to establish a baseline and possible format for future reviews?  And by the way, are we posting the reviews in this thread? :look:
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: -Archmage- on 8 July 2010, 22:43:09
Should a do a review real quick to establish a baseline and possible format for future reviews?  And by the way, are we posting the reviews in this thread? :look:

Apparently. I think we should submit them in the topic I posted. :look:
This is the download center not the review center.



Guys this is the latest version of the criteria that was agreed upon:

Code: [Select]
Criteria for ratings:

0-10% Models
0-10% Textures
0-10% Animations
0-10% Sounds
0-10% Music
0-10% Icons
0-10% AI
0-10% Particles
0-10% Balance
0-10% Miscellaneous
=0-100% overall rating

Platinum: 95%+
Gold:      85-95 %
Silver:     60-84 %
Bronze:    30-59 %
Stone:     10-29 %
Lead:      0-9 %
Wip:    Unfinished
Abandonware:    Mods that have been abandoned at any stage of development.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ChupaReaper on 9 July 2010, 00:57:53
You can actually rate a single faction mod on balance:
Basically are different aspects of the same faction balanced against itself.

Also, what about replayability? That's important, a small 2 second mod might be fun at first but could get boring for players who like long detailed agains, also the opposite, logn detailed boring mods would be boring for people who like action straight away, I guess this could come under misc as it is kind of the whole overall feel of it that makes it replayable or not.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Omega on 9 July 2010, 04:45:19
I say we just post them here... Easier that way, and besides, why do we need to post them in a separate topic?  ;)

I don't think we need an abandonware catigory. For me, abandonware is a mod that was NEVER COMPLETED and hasn't been actively worked on. A completed mod doesn't get worked on, yet that doesn't make it abandonware. Abandonware is totally useless, and we should *not* have a catigory for them. I also don't think we should have a WIP catigory. I mean, this is supposed to be a FACTION DOWNLOAD CENTER. Its a WIP, there is *no* download! If there's a beta, we can rank it. If there is no beta, it doesn't belong here. And since mods CAN change catigories, we can put them into catigories until their next version, where they may possibly change catigories based on what is new.

ie: If a mod WIP is released as a beta, but it sucks, and isn't done, it may be bronze, lead, stone, whatever... But if the next beta fixes all of those, its possible for the mod to move up some ranks, such as to silver. The description of the mod can state if one can expect more updates. For example, a beta release's description might carry a note of "This is just a beta release and is subject to change in the future".

After all, aren't most mods technically WIP's if they still get future improvements? Military is completely playable, but it still gets updates. For example, the next update improves sound, voices, a few models, and all the particle effects.

For those reasons, I propose the scrapping of the WIP and abandonware catigories.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 9 July 2010, 05:14:44
I agree. OK, Ill do it. And for the rating you can only give ether 10, for something 5, or 0.

Can Jhon D. H., Omega, Archmage, Ultifd, or Titi rate my factions and packs?

Criteria for ratings:

0-10% Models
0-10% Textures
0-10% Animations
0-10% Sounds
0-10% Music
0-10% Icons
0-10% AI
0-10% Particles
0-10% Balance
0-10% Misc
=0-100% overall rating

Gold:      90 pt
Silver:     60 pt
Bronze:    30 pt
Stone:     10 pt
Wip:    Unfinished
Abandonware:    Mods that have a download but have been abandoned.

Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: John.d.h on 9 July 2010, 05:57:18
And for the rating you can only give ether 10, for something 5, or 0.
Why!? :confused:
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 9 July 2010, 06:41:41
And for the rating you can only give ether 10, for something 5, or 0.
Why!? :confused:
Alright, now you are just talking for yourself now right? To the point of no point for ratings, you want us to be specific... uh no, for me at least.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ChupaReaper on 9 July 2010, 10:01:01
I think that is a good idea, it's useful for mod developers too as they can see what they need to work on in order to get their mod up the ranks which means better mods for everyone.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 9 July 2010, 16:41:59
Can Jhon D. H., Omega, Archmage, Ultifd, or Titi rate my factions and packs?

Criteria for ratings:

5% New Models
5% Good Models
5% New Textures
5% Good Textures
5% New Animations
5% Good Animations
5% New Sounds
5% Good Sounds
5% New Music
5% Good Music
5% New Icons
5% Good Icons
0-10% AI
5% New Particles
5% Good Particles
0-10% Balance
0-10% Misc
=0-100% overall rating

Gold:      90 pt
Silver:     60 pt
Bronze:    30 pt
Stone:     10 pt

What do you think?
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: John.d.h on 9 July 2010, 17:41:04
Alright, now you are just talking for yourself now right? To the point of no point for ratings, you want us to be specific... uh no, for me at least.
What's the point of giving a review and a rating if you're just not going to bother?  If you can only give 0, 5, or 10, then where is the incentive?  If you know you're likely going to earn a 5 in a certain area, then you're probably not going to have the motivation to try any harder than that, because getting to a 10 is going to be a huge step, so it's not worth it.  Getting to a 6 or 7 wouldn't be so hard, though, so it would be worth striving for.  If it takes a lot of effort to make any difference, then who's going to bother?
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 9 July 2010, 18:25:05
Hmm, I think you misunderstood me. Oh well... We'll see.  :|
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 9 July 2010, 21:52:21
Fine, Can Jhon D. H., Omega, Archmage, Ultifd, or Titi rate my factions and packs?

Criteria for ratings:

0-5% New Models
0-5% Good Models
0-5% New Textures
0-5% Good Textures
0-5% New Animations
0-5% Good Animations
0-5% New Sounds
0-5% Good Sounds
0-5% New Music
0-5% Good Music
0-5% New Icons
0-5% Good Icons
0-10% AI
0-5% New Particles
0-5% Good Particles
0-10% Balance
0-10% Misc
=0-100% overall rating

platinum:  95 pt
Gold:       75 pt
Silver:     55 pt
Bronze:    30 pt
Stone:     10 pt

What do you think?
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: John.d.h on 10 July 2010, 00:21:32
Fine, Can Jhon D. H., Omega, Archmage, Ultifd, or Titi rate my factions and packs?
Do you mean to keep copying that? :look:
Quote
platinum:  95 pt
Gold:       75 pt
Silver:     55 pt
Bronze:    30 pt
Stone:     10 pt

What do you think?
Okay, now we're getting somewhere.  I'm not sure how the scale should work, though.  I'll go ahead and whip up a dummy review to set kind of a baseline, and maybe we can calibrate the scale from that.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: -Archmage- on 10 July 2010, 02:18:53
Uh, guys, before we rush ahead and start trying to do the minor adjustments let's clear up all the current debate. :|
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: John.d.h on 10 July 2010, 02:37:31
Ehh, fine.  I've got plenty of other things to keep me occupied.  *sigh* Committees.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 10 July 2010, 03:07:19
The debate will end when every one says if they want Lead or not in the faction reviews and ratings (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5682.0) topic.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 10 July 2010, 03:16:49
Well after the debate is over don't forget to "update" the mods Eliminator...  :|
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 10 July 2010, 05:27:28
I won't.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 19 July 2010, 02:34:02
Oh yeah, there is also Piggy's Raiders mod...
https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5174.0
I think it counts...
Was kinda fun.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Omega on 22 July 2010, 18:01:38
Oh wow, that was the oddest bot I've ever deleted. At first, it appears to be just someone posting totally offtopic, but without ads at all. Interestingly, its email adress was @bofthew.com

I Would assume this is "botoftheweek". :|

Anyway, I'm going to replicate some of the info into the MDC to help bring it up to date, then it should be good enough to upload (I don't want to spoil anymore. I surprised myself (again)).
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: -Archmage- on 22 July 2010, 18:38:39
Well, if Piggy was a bot, then how did he make a mod?
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Pigy on 22 July 2010, 20:47:17
Im not a bot
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 22 July 2010, 20:47:59
Thats right, hes my bro.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 22 July 2010, 21:12:18
...Yeah...
So are you going to add Piggy's "mod"?  :|
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 22 July 2010, 21:22:19
Yup.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: -Archmage- on 23 July 2010, 00:27:26
I know you aren't, doing further checking I realize that Omega never said Piggy......
Who the hell were you talking about?
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 23 July 2010, 00:28:14
Well, he deleted it Arch...  :|

Yup.
K.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: wyvern on 23 July 2010, 21:15:22
Piggy being a bot yeah right :O :O :O, funny, I never knew bots make mods :O :O :O
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Omega on 25 July 2010, 02:45:17
Sorry to have caused so much confusion, off topic, and ARMAGEDDON!  :o

Anyway, to clear things up, there was a bot, who's name I can't remember, he posted too totally random messages, oddly, without any ads, but I verified his email and IP address as a known bot account, and deleted his posts. Since his posts are deleted, and I can't remember his name, you may as well consider him... vanquished! :)

Anway, back on topic please....
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Gabbe on 19 August 2010, 20:49:53
were is robotech? it sounded good but therer is no download link, nor can i find it here :(
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 19 August 2010, 20:52:17
were is robotech? it sounded good but therer is no download link, nor can i find it here :(
http://www.moddb.com/games/glest/downloads/robotech-v04
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Gabbe on 20 August 2010, 05:30:50
Great thanks to you ;)
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 21 August 2010, 17:54:03
Robotech is bad, not worth adding here...
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: wyvern on 21 August 2010, 19:18:55
Maybe but its still a mod. :|
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 22 August 2010, 03:28:51
Not really...
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: wyvern on 22 August 2010, 14:03:00
Not relay...
Yes really and the author put some work into it :|
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 23 August 2010, 01:32:44
Did you play it?
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: wyvern on 23 August 2010, 20:09:43
Yes actually, and while I admit its lacking models and animation, it was still a fun mod to play.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Mark on 23 August 2010, 21:46:54
I don't know if I want to resurrect the old thread, but since now Megaglest has such amazing particle options, Titi should make a phoenix for his egyptians. 
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 24 August 2010, 04:32:16
But there is already a air unit in Egypt...
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 24 August 2010, 16:08:55
I need some one to rate whimsical forest mod (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5229.0),

Rate it with this criteria (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5682.msg58484#msg58484).

Archmge, John, Titi, ultifd, or omega.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Mark on 27 August 2010, 00:27:28
But there is already a air unit in Egypt...
Yeah, but tech has 2, and an ibis is more like a stork than anything else.  Storks aren't deadly adversaries (unless you are a tadpole :O).
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 27 August 2010, 00:56:16
I don't know if I want to resurrect the old thread, but since now Megaglest has such amazing particle options, Titi should make a phoenix for his egyptians. 
Besides that Egypt is already OP, I think titi probably doesn't have the time, unfortunately...
But if Egypt was going to be "fixed"/updated,

1.) Add sounds.
2.) chicken farm needs fixing? white chicken
3.) Maybe adjust the splash, etc.

Would be the things that should be done first...not a new unit.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Omega on 27 August 2010, 02:03:59
Say, I just noticed that Military isn't in this list anymore... Could you please fix that Elim?
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 27 August 2010, 03:34:01
OK, and:
I need some one to rate whimsical forest mod (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5229.0),

Rate it with this criteria (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5682.msg58484#msg58484).

Archmge, John, Titi, ultifd, or omega.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 27 August 2010, 03:37:43
Wait, military is already there. Under silver. (Is some one going to rate your new release?)
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Omega on 27 August 2010, 18:40:09
Ah, odd... It wasn't there at one point when I checked. Even with multiple checks for it and attempted CTRL+F...

I do hope someone will rate my new release. Perhaps you'll do it?
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 3 September 2010, 02:34:34
 :O I just remembered that wciow is making an Undead mod.  :thumbup: Some models have been done already. Can't wait.  :O I remember there was already some really cool buildings and units. Undead crossbowmen, etc. Unless he changed it... I bet when he finishes it, it'll be great.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 3 September 2010, 05:13:11
He didn't make a topic yet did he?
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 3 September 2010, 05:29:16
He didn't make a topic yet did he?
No... but he told some other people and I about it before on the IRC Channel...then showed it to us. Was cool... I would show what there is so far (that was uploaded almost two months ago or less) but I don't really have permission and wouldn't want to show something that may be updated...

Anyways, probably in the future there will be a thread.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 3 September 2010, 05:30:44
Ok  :)
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Gabbe on 20 September 2010, 23:18:38
Make a drop box so that everyone can download all the mods auto? Me and arch are currently doing so.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: -Archmage- on 21 September 2010, 02:51:06
No, don't do that!

Say you sign someone onto the sharing list, they automatically download the files they are signed for, and they keep updated with every little change. One little itty bitty problem....... If one person on the sharing list deletes a file, or the whole thing for some reason, boom, it's gone on the network, and the next time everybody on the sharing list goes on there computer, the files get "updated". :look:
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: John.d.h on 21 September 2010, 03:23:07
Nothing wrong with creating an online repository open to the public, but automatic syncing would be a bad idea, as Arch said.  Something like rsync might work, and you could keep a "master copy" that only one person has access to and updates periodically.  Individual drop-boxes are great for individual projects, though.  I have all of my Glest-related stuff synced on Ubuntu One.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Gabbe on 21 September 2010, 13:22:35
Ive downloaded deltacopy so i can use rsync to test it out, maybe elim should have the rsync admin permission along with the mods and admins..
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: tomreyn on 3 December 2010, 02:10:34
'Everybody' is probably a good choice.

By the way, the military mod URL is outdated...
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 3 December 2010, 05:04:28
Thanks, Ill fix it.
Title: Re: Annex: Conquer the World
Post by: ultifd on 4 February 2011, 06:45:48
http://www.moddb.com/mods/annex-conquer-the-world (Ishmaru's mod)
Looks great! Cool, an anime mod. Would be great for MG and GAE!!!

(http://media.moddb.com/cache/images/mods/1/18/17106/thumb_620x2000/annex.jpg)
More Screens Here!: http://delphadesign.deviantart.com/gallery/
(http://media.moddb.com/cache/images/mods/1/18/17106/thumb_620x2000/Annex_In_Game_2_AD.jpg)
Title: Re: Annex: Conquer the World
Post by: John.d.h on 4 February 2011, 07:03:50
@Ultifd: I think he might have been not posting that on purpose.

Spoiler'd just in case.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 4 February 2011, 07:12:49
Well, I only posted this because I saw him creating a new topic, which I assumed was about his mod.
edit: it is...I do have some judgement...  :angel:
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 4 February 2011, 17:20:21
Ill definitely add it once its up!  :)
Title: Re: 2080 Mars
Post by: ultifd on 7 March 2011, 09:55:18
Another Sci-Fi mod, eh?  Looks cool (http://www.moddb.com/games/2080-mars/images) Hopefully it's going to be free and that something will be released soon! :D
By anonymousjim  (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?action=profile;u=12602) This is pretty cool, now I guess I'm not so sad about the other Mars mod being abandoned...
(http://media.moddb.com/cache/images/games/1/15/14319/thumb_620x2000/helicopter.png)
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 14 March 2011, 20:39:33
I updated this but, most new mods don't have a download so I didn't add all of them yet.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Darth_Sidion on 9 May 2011, 19:12:46
Okay, this is where I get mixed up. I want to download mods for my recent download of MegaGlest. Thing is, there is wiki links to all this. But, I find this thread as well, so I don't know which is more current and up-to-date. This thread, or those wiki links?

Last thing I want to do is download mods that either don't work, or too out-dated.

One more thing, I've been playing the original Glest. I'd like to have some mods for it, if there are any. Can you point me in the right direction, please?

Thank you.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Omega on 10 May 2011, 00:30:03
Okay, this is where I get mixed up. I want to download mods for my recent download of MegaGlest. Thing is, there is wiki links to all this. But, I find this thread as well, so I don't know which is more current and up-to-date. This thread, or those wiki links?
The wiki should be fairly up to date, but to be certain, the wiki does provide a link to the individual thread here on the forum, which generally always has the most current version.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: wyvern on 10 May 2011, 00:33:13
For old glest I can't think of much other then dwarves, woodsmen and elves, for megapack, get dark magic, woodsmen, all v-bros packs, dwarves, and elves, and japan. You might also want to try military and constellus if you go GAE(Glest Advanced Engine)
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 10 May 2011, 01:14:01
Most of the links on the first post of this topic are the latest versions.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Darth_Sidion on 10 May 2011, 02:24:52
Well I guess I know that now, heh. I still haven't gotten around to installing the game yet, those bastards at Dell sent my mom her laptop back (after so-called repairs) only that it's been downgraded from Windows 7 Home Premium to Windows Vista Home Edition, SP1. I'm so pissed right now. Even worse, I got over 100 updates to install now. I think I'll hold off on all the Glest titles for now.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 4 August 2011, 17:00:16
The poll is updated/reset.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Omega on 4 August 2011, 21:35:42
The poll is updated/reset.
I gotta be blunt here, the poll sucks. The question is "rank the factions", when all there is a checkbox for each one. Just...sucks. Recommended complete removal, nothing can be created on the board that is good enough for such a thing. Also, is there any point to this topic when there's the Wiki page which does the same thing, but allows anyone to edit?

As well, why are there some mods on that list that aren't even finished, like Glest in Space?
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Ishmaru on 4 August 2011, 21:48:49
Its not great but not horrible either, I guess its the best we could do unless there is a way to do like star/number ratings for each.  Currently this is more like the most popular mods poll.

Well not everyone uses through the wiki though so having a section on the official forum makes sense.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Omega on 4 August 2011, 22:26:24
Its not great but not horrible either, I guess its the best we could do unless there is a way to do like star/number ratings for each.  Currently this is more like the most popular mods poll.

Well not everyone uses through the wiki though so having a section on the official forum makes sense.
Technically, I could make a rating system with templates and some clever javascript on the wiki, the only problem is where to put it.

And even though many players don't use the wiki, they should, it's the first result for googling "glest mods" and many similar keywords.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Ishmaru on 4 August 2011, 23:16:11
I don't know how much of a pain it would be but what about adding a new colum to mod list with average rateing with a vote button next to it bringing up a pop window?

Maybe it shows up higher on google searches but I still think its a good idea to have on the forums as well. Espically since the discussions about mods happen here and not wiki.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Omega on 5 August 2011, 01:05:48
I don't know how much of a pain it would be but what about adding a new colum to mod list with average rateing with a vote button next to it bringing up a pop window?

Maybe it shows up higher on google searches but I still think its a good idea to have on the forums as well. Espically since the discussions about mods happen here and not wiki.
It could be added, yes, but the space there is so cramped already... Would it be better to have it on the mod's specific faction/techtree/map/tileset page, where we could have it in the infobox?
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Ishmaru on 5 August 2011, 03:26:11
It could be added, yes, but the space there is so cramped already... Would it be better to have it on the mod's specific faction/techtree/map/tileset page, where we could have it in the infobox?

Yea having it in the specific faction/techtree page is a good idea. It may be a bit unfair come to think of it, to have scores posted on mods page, as it would dissuade a larger audience from trying mods out that have lower/underrated scores. Especially since graphics, animation, and sound will be a big part of the score and not everyone has time/ability to do this, yet have a really fun mod. But having ratings would give great overall mods some more recognition, so there should still be some sort of rating.

Ok i'm thinking way to much into this.

Long story short, I agree with having ratings in infobox.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Omega on 5 August 2011, 04:16:22
Yea having it in the specific faction/techtree page is a good idea. It may be a bit unfair come to think of it, to have scores posted on mods page, as it would dissuade a larger audience from trying mods out that have lower/underrated scores. Especially since graphics, animation, and sound will be a big part of the score and not everyone has time/ability to do this, yet have a really fun mod. But having ratings would give great overall mods some more recognition, so there should still be some sort of rating.
I definitely agree with you there, though, on the other hand, people don't want to "waste time" downloading lower quality mods. I heavily use ratings myself when deciding (I wouldn't use a program on download.com if it was only rated one or two stars unless I really needed it and was sure of myself) and find that they are usually accurate, if enough people vote.

Yes, that means a lower graphics mod might not be rated as well, but, isn't that the point? Unless the mod had something else that made the rater give it a high rating even with those graphics, it simply doesn't deserve a high rating. If you can't invest the time or training to make it look good, surely you don't expect a higher rating. The more investment you put into your mod, the higher your rating. Take a look at your annex, the graphics look fantastic, and it's been in development quite a while, which shows you put a lot of commitment into it, something that deserves a high rating.

I'd have to put more thought into how to do ratings on the rather limited wikia servers, where direct PHP access is a no-go...
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 5 August 2011, 04:54:33
Well I thought it was better then nothing, should I reset and lock it?
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Mr War on 5 August 2011, 06:08:11
I cannot see what the issue is, it's only a poll on an internet forum.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Ishmaru on 5 August 2011, 11:59:03
Well I thought it was better then nothing, should I reset and lock it?

Na, I think its fine on the forums for now, and do a more advanced grading system on wiki.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: BASH2003 on 14 August 2011, 02:38:57
umm, i couldnt download some of the factions on the list. I wanted to download woodsmen, but for some reason, it says the file is not found. there is also the animal cruelty faction which for some reason can't download also. So, is there another place that they could be downloaded?
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Omega on 14 August 2011, 05:58:10
Oh dear, I checked some of the wiki's links (https://docs.megaglest.org/Mods/List) and it appears that nearly every (if not every) file hosted on gamefront is broken. Fortunately, I have most of the higher quality mods, and can try and upload them when time allows, but in the meantime, I suppose we're best off using things like sugar share, drop box, and mediafire for hosting. On one bright side, this is a perfect chance to ensure all mods are in the addons format (https://docs.megaglest.org/Addons), which makes installation on ALL engines easier (Glest and MegaGlest have to copy the contents of the archive into the installation directory, while GAE can have the archive simply placed in the addons directory. A standard to make things simpler for those who are not modders).
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: John.d.h on 14 August 2011, 17:53:43
Fortunately, I have most of the higher quality mods, and can try and upload them when time allows, but in the meantime, I suppose we're best off using things like sugar share, drop box, and mediafire for hosting.
I don't know anything about sugarshare, but github makes a good place to host things for long-term integrity, and also great for collaboration, so I propose we host mods there (especially while in-progress, if multiple people are working on it).  Mediafire and Dropbox both have the drawback of being possibly deleted when the owner cleans out his/her stuff, while MF has a file size limit and DB has an overall storage limit.  To the best of my knowledge, github has neither.

Perhaps someone creates a "Glest mod center" project on github, and links to several other repos like the Scifi pack and Project Red, both of which are already hosted on the site.  It could also host the zipped archives in add-on format for easy downloading.

We'd probably need to include a "how to download and install" text file in the main repo for people who aren't experienced with git.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Omega on 14 August 2011, 21:36:07
Fortunately, I have most of the higher quality mods, and can try and upload them when time allows, but in the meantime, I suppose we're best off using things like sugar share, drop box, and mediafire for hosting.
I don't know anything about sugarshare, but github makes a good place to host things for long-term integrity, and also great for collaboration, so I propose we host mods there (especially while in-progress, if multiple people are working on it).  Mediafire and Dropbox both have the drawback of being possibly deleted when the owner cleans out his/her stuff, while MF has a file size limit and DB has an overall storage limit.  To the best of my knowledge, github has neither.

Perhaps someone creates a "Glest mod center" project on github, and links to several other repos like the Scifi pack and Project Red, both of which are already hosted on the site.  It could also host the zipped archives in add-on format for easy downloading.

We'd probably need to include a "how to download and install" text file in the main repo for people who aren't experienced with git.
Been crawling through the manuals on their site, and I like it. I'll make a repo soon for hosting said mods.

EDIT: I created a repo for it, uploaded a README and the woodsman faction (in addons format, of course).

https://github.com/glest/Glest-Mods

EDIT2: I notice it's easy enough to download the folders across git users, and can even download a perfectly formatting zip file with git archive --format=zip HEAD:woodsmen_1.1/ > woodsmen_1.1.zip -9, though, is there any way to make a link for regular users to download (that is, those without git, who just want to download the mod to play)?

Could be really useful with a git-compatible mod-downloader.

I noticed the download button, but it only seems to want to download an entire repo rather than just one folder. Any way to change that?
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: will on 15 August 2011, 05:24:55
I noticed the download button, but it only seems to want to download an entire repo rather than just one folder. Any way to change that?

1) the straightforward way is to put each freestanding faction that might want to be downloaded separately into its own repo

1b) you can then create an 'umbrella' repo that contains links to the other factions ('git submodule')

1c) it would be SUPER USEFUL if people who have repos of the same factions - but possibly under different engines or tweaks or whatnot - fork from each other.  It then becomes a joy for them to take each others changes back ('pulling' in git parlance)

2) if you right-click on the links on the message-box that comes up when you click on the download buttons, you can get the direct url that you can give to people e.g. https://github.com/glest/Glest-Mods/zipball/master
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Omega on 15 August 2011, 08:20:05
The individual repo per mod thing sounds cleaner, though, I wonder how well it would work since that means you can only store the current version of the mod, no extra development files, etc, if you want that simple download link to work.

I definitely agree with forking similar factions. Magic and Tech both appear slightly differently in GAE's Magitech, Glest's Magitech, and MG's MegaPack. Not to mention FPM would also use them...

For the downloading though, it may end up necessary to use Git to store a "master copy" which can contain development files (blender, audacity, etc) and would make version handling easier, though to distribute the final project to everyone, you'd export and upload to another site, such as Mediafire (which you should not expect it to last on, all the more reason to have it also available on GitHub).

Unless there's any cleaner methods that don't require the user to have installed Git?
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: will on 15 August 2011, 08:44:52
in the sci_fi, I store development stuff in branches.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 15 August 2011, 16:15:25
I added a  (No download) to the end of all the files that have no download (which is a lot!). People look at the downloads if one of the mods is yours or if you have it please upload and post the link here. Thanks

BTW: FileFront or should I say GameFront has all the problems...
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Omega on 15 August 2011, 16:38:40
BTW: FileFront or should I say GameFront has all the problems...
Pretty much every file host has issues. Most have restrictions on size, others remove after a so called period of inactivity, which sometimes simply means the UPLOADER has to log in, even if others are downloading the mod, and others have counters, etc. Gamefront seemed like a wonderful idea at first, but it looks like something changed. We currently use Mediafire a lot, but we lose a lot of files to it, too!
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Hagekura on 15 August 2011, 20:30:17
I added a  (No download) to the end of all the files that have no download (which is a lot!). People look at the downloads if one of the mods is yours or if you have it please upload and post the link here. Thanks

BTW: FileFront or should I say GameFront has all the problems...
https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=6103.msg76345#msg76345
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Omega on 15 August 2011, 22:49:26
I added a  (No download) to the end of all the files that have no download (which is a lot!). People look at the downloads if one of the mods is yours or if you have it please upload and post the link here. Thanks

BTW: FileFront or should I say GameFront has all the problems...
https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=6103.msg76345#msg76345
Yes, drop box, sugar sync, and all these similar programs are some of the best choices, though they have they have limitations on the overall storage too, which means you'd generally have to delete older versions of the mod, etc, to save space. For now, I've uploaded the elves and woodsmen to my sugarsync account:

Woodsmen (https://www.sugarsync.com/pf/D6983676_8815923_06589)

EDIT: Blast, a hidden restriction in SugarSync is that it disallows sharing of files over 25MB on free plans. Another good file sharing service down the drain.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 16 August 2011, 03:54:49
So no elves?
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: John.d.h on 16 August 2011, 16:17:17
I think my copy of the Elves in Project Red is unedited, aside from fixing the G3Ds' two-sided problem, so you could just grab that and reupload it.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Omega on 16 August 2011, 19:34:40
So no elves?
Eh, I need a new uploading solution... So hard to find a half decent free one.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: John.d.h on 16 August 2011, 20:28:27
I've forked from your repo and updated the Woodsmen version to include the fixed g3d files.  I'm currently pushing the Elves as well.  I'll issue a pull request when I'm done.

Edit: Elves are borked.  I guess I deleted the resource folder with Grace in it, and the non-power-of-two textures are throwing errors at me.  Woodsmen should be good to go.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Omega on 16 August 2011, 21:21:55
I've forked from your repo and updated the Woodsmen version to include the fixed g3d files.  I'm currently pushing the Elves as well.  I'll issue a pull request when I'm done.

Edit: Elves are borked.  I guess I deleted the resource folder with Grace in it, and the non-power-of-two textures are throwing errors at me.  Woodsmen should be good to go.
Awesome John. I have an unmodified version of the elves I can try and upload when I have time, but it's...huge.

Anyone who knows how to use Git (or doesn't, the manuals on the site are very good) is more than welcome to upload mods, be it their own or anothers.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: John.d.h on 16 August 2011, 21:43:37
Okay, I'll get your copy of the elves and merge in my fixed g3ds, then push.  You've got a pull request for the fixed Woodsmen.

Here's an add-on friendly non-solid 7zip of them for non-git-using folks: https://github.com/downloads/johndh/Glest-Mods/woodsmen1.2.7z (https://github.com/downloads/johndh/Glest-Mods/woodsmen1.2.7z)
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 30 September 2011, 21:48:00
I still don't have a download for elves.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: MightyMic on 23 March 2012, 06:45:00
Here's a version I have. I don't think I've modded it at all, but I can't remember. The link is only good until 12/04/22 and only thirty people >:( can download it. Hopefully this is what you guys are looking for

https://www.hidrive.strato.com/lnk/L8MDwirU (https://www.hidrive.strato.com/lnk/L8MDwirU)
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ultifd on 23 March 2012, 08:04:36
http://dl.megaglest.org/elves_097.7z
http://k004.kiwi6.com/hotlink/bdy65wq0do/elves_097.7z
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 23 March 2012, 16:41:15
Thanks.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 17 December 2012, 19:49:57
How come this was un-stickyed?
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: tomreyn on 17 December 2012, 22:54:45
Dunno. I made it a sticky again for now, unless there's a reason to unstick it?
Generally I think this would be better placed on a wiki, though, since it enables anyone to contribute and add new mods and mirror links, plus there is no/a much higher limit on how much text can co into one post/page.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 17 December 2012, 23:19:56
I do think it should be on the wiki but no one ported all the mods yet.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: -Archmage- on 18 December 2012, 00:25:51
It's probably healthy to have mod lists and centers everywhere, not just the wiki. I personally haven't seen the wiki in over a year...
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 18 December 2012, 00:40:25
Yah, the more exposure the better.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 10 August 2013, 04:50:23
Added Undead and Prax.

I can't find a download for Prax though, I heard about people playing it.

Any download to add?
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Omega on 10 August 2013, 06:09:20
I can't find a download for Prax though, I heard about people playing it.

Any download to add?
Last I heard, it was a closed beta. I'm sure a finished product will be available in the near future, though.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: atze on 24 September 2013, 11:53:44
I can't find a download for Prax though, I heard about people playing it.

Any download to add?
Last I heard, it was a closed beta. I'm sure a finished product will be available in the near future, though.

Correct  ;) , Prax-Mod ( version 0.5.8 ) is available, even directly over Mod-Centre and download see Prax-thread.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: tomreyn on 23 February 2014, 12:03:33
Here's an update on broken links - I guess at least 50% of the links in the first post fail now (and this will just get worse over time unless we act):

Megapack

Woodsmen
Japanese
Undead
Dark Magic (No Download)
Dark Magic (No Download)
Malevolent Rising (No Download)
-  times out
Undersea (Aqua-Pack)
BattleGlest
Orcs (No Download)
Green Dawn Martian Invasion
- 2 of 3 downloads are available (ghost town map is missing)
Animal Cruelity (No download)
Apocalyptic Dawn
- 1 of 3 downloads are available (7-zip and Linux packages are missing)
Whimsical Forest
Bio, Nano, Influx (No download)
- points to "Influx", a first person perspective puzzle game unrelated to *Glest*
Raiders (No Download)
Project Green (No download)


I guess keeping this list makes less and less sense. I think it would be better to keep copies of what we think should be retained (can be all that is still accessible) in multiple places, including our own hosting, which will shortly get remote backup capabilities, too. If someone is willing to go over the list and point out what should be retained, what the files should be named and how they should be titled (friendly name / description of the download), and - optionally, just where it's possible to tell (incl. reference), which license they are  - I'll be happy to download them and host them on our servers, providing updates download links and instructions for mirroring them.

For now I guess we should unsticky this post since it's kind of misleading when so many links are broken. Such a list would also be better maintained on a wiki where several people can edit them.

Finally I don't agree with the quality measurements, those seem to be rather subjective (but I'm happy to discuss this separately, or not at all).
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 23 February 2014, 16:51:28
Can you make a sticky locked thread that links to the wiki downloads page?

Ill move all the working faction links to the wiki. (And recommend ones that should be re-hosted)

Unfortunately most of these factions are just factions not techtrees, so they can't be directly put into the in-game download centre.

Maybe if you think its a good idea, I can combine some matching factions into techtrees?
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: tomreyn on 23 February 2014, 18:17:15
Sure, just tell me the URL to point to once it's done. Note that Omega and I just moved the Wiki to our own hosting.

I think it would be a remarkable improvement to wrap all factions up in a tech tree just by itself, since this makes it easy to actually try them. This would lay the foundation to do balancing work allowing several of these factions to be joined in techtrees. (But if you already have an obvious pairing, sure, why not.)

Thanks for offering to work on this, I hope there can be additional contributors.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: John.d.h on 23 February 2014, 20:47:08
I've fixed the link to Project Green.  Wow, I released that almost two and a half years ago!?  Yowza!  :o

http://www.moddb.com/mods/project-green/downloads/project-green-v03
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 23 February 2014, 23:22:09
It won't let me edit the wiki. How to I create an account?
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Omega on 23 February 2014, 23:32:53
It won't let me edit the wiki. How to I create an account?
Aha, our first "bug". Anonymous account creation and editing was disabled. I've re-enabled them both.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 23 February 2014, 23:54:51
How do I upload images? Also I can't open the "Other" and "Tools" menus on the side-bar, they just close again instantly.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: tomreyn on 24 February 2014, 02:04:35
You can upload files here (I haven't tested it, yet): https://docs.megaglest.org/Special:Upload
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: Omega on 24 February 2014, 05:40:31
Also I can't open the "Other" and "Tools" menus on the side-bar, they just close again instantly.
Thanks for reminding me about this. I spotted it earlier, but forgot to fix it. It was caused by a conflicting, unnecessary extension, and should be fixed now.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 25 February 2014, 20:50:12
OK, all the mods with downloads have been moved to to wiki.

Mods that (If their not) should be in the in-game download centre (in my opinion) are:
Woodsmen
Undead
Prax
Japanese
Iroquois
Dwarves
Elves
Imperial

Some kind of pack(s) with these?
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: will on 25 February 2014, 22:29:32
Mr War's Martians Sci-Fi on the list?
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: ElimiNator on 25 February 2014, 22:57:52
I don't think there was a working download.

EDIT: OK, the main page's download wad broken, but I found your download. Its up now.
Title: Re: Factions Download Center
Post by: tomreyn on 26 February 2014, 12:37:12
So, for now, the new location is https://docs.megaglest.org/Mods/List (https://docs.megaglest.org/Mods/List)
This may change to https://docs.megaglest.org/wiki/Mods/List (https://docs.megaglest.org/wiki/Mods/List) soon.

Instead of two lists with several broken links, we now have one list with several broken links. That's (seriously) an improvement - thanks Eliminator! - but more quality time will need to be spent to point out which downloads actually work and which mods are lost.

Also, I think we want to make this (docs.megaglest.org) a MegaGlest (and compatible) only site soon, because it is currently quite difficult to find your way on the wiki if you're a new user and have no idea what vanilla Glest and GAE are (and the old wiki is retained at Wikia for reference). But this will need to be part of a larger overhaul of the wiki.

That said, I've un-stickied this topic (I don't see the need to close it, we may want to continue discussion here for a while - though the wiki related discussion could also go onto the "Discussion" page (https://docs.megaglest.org/Talk:Mods/List) there) and added a new sticky with a link to the wiki.