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Title: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: titi on 20 August 2010, 06:59:30
Hi all

I looked around a bit in this offtopic forum and I think there are too many useless discussions!
This is mainly the glest board and not a place where:
People publish their political/religious statements, play silly posting games that just fill the board and so on.
Please all try not to do this from now. I don't want to be too restrictive because its the offtopic board, but please try too keep these things in mind.

What I am talking about are things like these:
https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5809.0
https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5815.0
https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5513.0
https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=5281.0

Please stop this kind of things!

Regards
titi
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: Gabbe on 20 August 2010, 13:13:25
If i am allowed to come with objections, the tribue to the US was actually a try to get a debate, and why is there even a off-topic forum when you cant disguiss or debate...Off-topic?
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: Zoythrus on 20 August 2010, 14:25:57
i personally dont see why we cant have pointless forum games. they are fun ways to reduce stress and give us stuff to do. would you rather us play a game or talk about some super-controversial topic?
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: ultifd on 20 August 2010, 18:08:36
Well titi, at least we don't have those games that are even worse...  :| (You know when we were talking about creating a OT board, we talked about this "problem".)

I am fine with some games that at least have some point...I guess. Debatable topics and controversial topics, if we can all handle it, then it should be fine...sometimes it is nice...sometimes not.
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: Mark on 20 August 2010, 22:36:49
The topics about being the longest and about having large pictures is ridiculous, and should be deleted, just like the one about having gigantic pictures.  As far as the one about Immigration, I don't really like it, but oh well, I don't care.  The one about american patriotism is relatively harmless, though it should be monitored, due to its proximity to insults.
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 20 August 2010, 23:38:57
Well titi, at least we don't have those games that are even worse...  :| (You know when we were talking about creating a OT board, we talked about this "problem".)

I am fine with some games that at least have some point...I guess. Debatable topics and controversial topics, if we can all handle it, then it should be fine...sometimes it is nice...sometimes not.
ya i agree anyways this is the off-topic board but still what else can we talk about in off topic but longest post and stuff is just stupid
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: -Archmage- on 22 August 2010, 04:43:59
Titi, I agree with ya on the longest post and biggest pic topics, but you really don't have the right to tell us we can't debate stuff.
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: John.d.h on 22 August 2010, 05:05:07
Titi, I agree with ya on the longest post and biggest pic topics, but you really don't have the right to tell us we can't debate stuff.
He didn't say you can't.  He said please don't. ::)

(And I'm pretty sure he absolutely does have that right. :look: )
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: ElimiNator on 22 August 2010, 05:25:32
I say delete them all! They make people have unfair post count.
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: -Archmage- on 22 August 2010, 05:26:54
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He didn't say you can't.  He said please don't. Roll Eyes

Right....



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(And I'm pretty sure he absolutely does have that right. Look )

Yea, and I just realized that forum administration is pretty bad(try the Urban Terror forums, you aren't allowed to even say the word iron sight without them locking your topic). It's awfully abusive of him to lock a topic based on his personal feelings, and then it's even worse when people say they don't have to provide a reason for doing so(I'm not even going to bother to quote, because you can see all of it in the locked topic saluting the US). Government and administration are there for the PEOPLE, be it for forum or country, and the people run the government, not the other way around.



I say delete them all! They make people have unfair post count.

If we do that then we might as well delete the whole forum if post count means that much to you. ::)
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: Zoythrus on 22 August 2010, 15:41:57
i think that friendly debates should be fine (like, what's the best renewable resource), but when it gets into controversial topics like religion and politics...
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: Gabbe on 22 August 2010, 16:27:40
I dont really support it, but i got an idea, what if we had a topic were you had to ask for permission to create such and such topic.

[More administration :cry: - @kukac@]
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: ElimiNator on 23 August 2010, 01:34:14
Every one looks at the post count  ::)
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: ultifd on 23 August 2010, 02:59:15
I say delete them all! They make people have unfair post count.
Maybe delete the pointless ones, if any deleting is going to happen.
Usually we don't need to...just lock.

...
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: Mark on 23 August 2010, 14:46:48
i think that friendly debates should be fine (like, what's the best renewable resource), but when it gets into controversial topics like religion and politics...
I think another problem is that these subjects elicit strong emotions.  We already have enough of the F-bomb and moderators don't like that.  We had a good religious debate, which I would love to resurrect, but I kind of think it is a distraction for people who are trying to do other things.
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: xxcatmysteryxx on 23 August 2010, 16:45:05
Every one looks at the post count  ::)
I never do...  ;)
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: modman on 24 August 2010, 07:44:39
Government and administration are there for the PEOPLE, be it for forum or country, and the people run the government, not the other way around.

Well, no.  Consider this along the lines of a corporation, not a government.  In the end, this forum is free to us, and the site is kept up by others (who that is doesn't really matter now).  A large part of the reason Americans have power comes from the fact that Americans pay taxes.

Titi, I agree with ya on the longest post and biggest pic topics, but you really don't have the right to tell us we can't debate stuff.

I . . . don't think his powers are limited at all.  He can be a tyrant if he wishes.  :scientist:

To All: I don't think that the Glest forums are the proper place to have debates.  Yes, it would be nice if people were mature enough and the moderating conditions were correct so that we could have debates here, but that is not the case.  I have recommended many times to people that if they wish to debate something, the best place I know on the internet is debatingchristianity.com (http://debatingchristianity.com).  If you really think you have superior rhetorical skills, take Sir Rhetor (me) on in a head to head debate; otherwise, just shut up about your position.  Glest is a game, and these forums are for discussion of that game.  Honestly, there needn't be an Off Topic board at all.  So if you come here to "relieve stress" or post pointless topics not even conducive to discussion, then just observe, don't touch. >:(
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: Mark on 24 August 2010, 23:42:21
Right, 'nough said.  Sticky, lock, and obey this topic's message.
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: Zoythrus on 24 August 2010, 23:50:08
can we have a subforum for stupid stuff? most other game forums ive seen have a forum games subforum in the main off topic forum
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: John.d.h on 25 August 2010, 01:06:59
can we have a subforum for stupid stuff? most other game forums ive seen have a forum games subforum in the main off topic forum
Wouldn't that be the opposite of progress?  If so many other forums have that, then why do you need yet another?
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: modman on 25 August 2010, 08:14:22
can we have a subforum for stupid stuff? most other game forums ive seen have a forum games subforum in the main off topic forum

I'm sure their games are just as fun over there as here.  Why then does Glest need a "stupid stuff" subforum?  Never mind, don't answer that.  It doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: Gabbe on 25 August 2010, 13:06:01
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I'm sure their games are just as fun over there as here.  Why then does Glest need a "stupid stuff" subforum?  Never mind, don't answer that.  It doesn't matter.

Their games are just as fun, maybe, still it is more fun when you type to someone you "know" from the forum.
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: Mark on 26 August 2010, 00:26:37
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I'm sure their games are just as fun over there as here.  Why then does Glest need a "stupid stuff" subforum?  Never mind, don't answer that.  It doesn't matter.

Their games are just as fun, maybe, still it is more fun when you type to someone you "know" from the forum.
You might think that, but getting off topic can just as easily damage a relationship.  I remember there was a debacle when some people started swearing at a person, and it turned into a flame war.  In the end, like 6 people changed their names and I think one guy was banned.  Seriously, Glest forums should be about modding, testing and helping.  Not going off topic.  If you have time to do the off topic, maybe you could help with a mod, or download and test someone else's.  By the way, I think omega's military has a relatively recent release, and Dark Magic's latest version was released just last week.
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: Gabbe on 26 August 2010, 04:52:29
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I'm sure their games are just as fun over there as here.  Why then does Glest need a "stupid stuff" subforum?  Never mind, don't answer that.  It doesn't matter.

Their games are just as fun, maybe, still it is more fun when you type to someone you "know" from the forum.
You might think that, but getting off topic can just as easily damage a relationship.  I remember there was a debacle when some people started swearing at a person, and it turned into a flame war.  In the end, like 6 people changed their names and I think one guy was banned.  Seriously, Glest forums should be about modding, testing and helping.  Not going off topic.  If you have time to do the off topic, maybe you could help with a mod, or download and test someone else's.

I dont see a connection to games there?...
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: patz on 30 August 2010, 16:51:41
i think titi is right.

it's easy to offend ppl when talks about topics about politics/religion/sex.

this can be a guideline. (not a rule)

ps. sorry for what i've posted previously.
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: Gabbe on 30 August 2010, 17:11:04
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it's easy to offend ppl when talks about topics about politics/religion/sex.

Dont attack the person, KiLLZ0rr!!!11!!11!!! the argument :P
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: ultifd on 23 November 2010, 23:03:46
Hmm...this should be stickied, right? Especially since it looks like the community still needs it...
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: John.d.h on 23 November 2010, 23:16:47
Hmm...this should be stickied, right? Especially since it looks like the community still needs it...
Good idea, at least until/unless somebody wants to write an "Off Topic FAQ" or something (but I don't think that's really necessary).
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: -Archmage- on 23 November 2010, 23:21:25
Hmm...this should be stickied, right? Especially since it looks like the community still needs it...
Good idea, at least until/unless somebody wants to write an "Off Topic FAQ" or something (but I don't think that's really necessary).

Off-Topic Rules and Guidelines? :|
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: John.d.h on 23 November 2010, 23:30:20
Off-Topic Rules and Guidelines? :|
Go for it. :thumbup:
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: ultifd on 24 November 2010, 01:19:49
Good idea. I hope that the thread will have agreeable and reasonable rules. Also that uh, people would listen and follow...
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: -Archmage- on 24 November 2010, 01:34:14
https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=6198.0
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: Omega on 24 November 2010, 06:33:55
Well done. Since you made that now, this will become unstickied again.
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: Omega on 6 December 2010, 00:02:03
Just thought this could really use a bump with some of the more recent topics... :look:
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: ultifd on 7 December 2010, 00:47:43
Or maybe just some common sense would help...  :look:
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: John.d.h on 8 December 2010, 04:25:08
Or maybe just some common sense would help...  :look:
Alas, common sense isn't so common. :(
Title: Possibly a helpful solution
Post by: Darth_Sidion on 5 May 2011, 19:16:12
I've just read this entire thread from start to finish. Now, I don't really have much of a say-so in this matter, since I'm fairly new.

I do have one solution (possible) that might work for everyone here, members and staff alike.

The truth is, I have this forum that I'm trying to get off the ground. It's theme is primarily Science Fiction and Fantasy Fiction. It's a .webs site, yes, but I've been working hard to make it fun-ish. There's an arcade, I can always add more games to. Plenty of sections for said forum to peruse. Also, I have an Off-Topic section.

The latter isn't moderated (much) nor is it active. Heck, my entire forum isn't active. The few members there aren't doing anything, i've got one moderator (former friend, soon to be deleted). So, I have zero staff, I'm running it solo (not that I mind much, given lack of members)

So, this is my solution: Everyone here that wants to have Off-Topic discussions, can head to my forum for that. In fact, if it's alright with the Glest staff, I'll gladly make a section purely for Glest-only members to discuss non-Glest stuff.



Sorry to dual post, but it seems I ran out of room.

Anyways, I'll just let you all decide if this is an appropriate accord.

Look at it this way:

Glest forum won't be clogged or cluttered with, what some deem 'useless' posts.
Also, I can gain a possible influx in members at my spot. I do not at all wish to seem like this is being done for my own gains. I'm a people person (in a way) and I'm always looking for problem solvers.

Do we have a deal?

Edit by Omega: Merged double post. The text box will automatically spout a scrollbar when it "runs out of room". Only actual limitation on the message is the 50k character count limit.
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: Omega on 6 May 2011, 03:21:43
I'm not so sure if that would work, as it would seem many people do not want to leave the forum in the first place. As well, not all offtopic is bad, some posts are actually very helpful or have led to (somewhat) productive conversations. It's really just the banned topics, the useless topics, and such and are only effective here because this is where the community is. Of course, people are welcome to go to other forums to post topics we don't allow here, and it's certainly better than posting them here, as that would just be liable to lead to trouble, but would people actually do that? That, is the part I doubt. :|
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: ultifd on 6 May 2011, 03:29:30
Thanks but no thanks. I appreciate it though, I guess.
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: Gabbe on 6 May 2011, 04:55:30
I would do this, the problem howeve, is that then i have to go through the stress of creating a new account there. And that, not so many others would like to do. Send mail to Glest Team and speak with them further.
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: John.d.h on 6 May 2011, 05:50:07
There are already a gazillion forums on the internet.  Does their really need to be one more?  What will distinguish it and make it better?
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: will on 6 May 2011, 06:04:50
http://www.crazyontap.com/ is the forum that is different and better.  Its the way the software works.  It was carefully thought out:

http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/BuildingCommunitieswithSo.html

sadly Joel moved on and, after some smokescreen about stuff he closed his down.  But a functional copy lives on at crazyontap
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: Gabbe on 6 May 2011, 13:59:41
And 4chan.org is definatelyt the more mature and better forum on the internet.
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: Omega on 6 May 2011, 18:24:30
Darth_sideon's post has been moved to Mods (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?board=4).

https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=7079.0 (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=7079.0)
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: Darth_Sidion on 6 May 2011, 21:53:13
Um, what happened to my earlier post I made? It had explained that I understood if my idea isn't necessary, and that I'd make a section on my forum for Glest members. Did you delete that bit? Also, I could've swore I made a new topic pertaining to that issue with Pirates 4. All I can find is the latter. I didn't violate forum policies, did I? I'd rather not re-type anything if it's not allowed.
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: ultifd on 6 May 2011, 21:59:15
What are you talking about? All "we" did (Well Omega, he beat me to it) was merge your double post.
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: Darth_Sidion on 6 May 2011, 22:12:20
No, not that one. I made a reply here, earlier today as a response after I let others vote on if my idea was good or not. That reply is what I can't seem to locate. Meh, it wasn't all that important though, so never mind.
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: John.d.h on 7 May 2011, 04:13:18
No, not that one. I made a reply here, earlier today as a response after I let others vote on if my idea was good or not. That reply is what I can't seem to locate. Meh, it wasn't all that important though, so never mind.
Somebody moved it somewhere.  Normally we give some kind of notice like "this thread was split and the posts moved to [link]" but I guess whoever did it, forgot to.
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: Darth_Sidion on 7 May 2011, 04:32:46
Well, do I need to search the whole forum? Also, who is this culprit what moved a portion of my post that I now can't find? I just want to know who, I likes closure.
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: Omega on 7 May 2011, 06:15:32
 :O Scroll up, mate, it's the post right on top of yours.

Darth_sideon's post has been moved to Mods (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?board=4).

https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=7079.0 (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=7079.0)
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: Darth_Sidion on 7 May 2011, 06:25:28
I'd like to formally apologize for my rush to conclusions. I swear my week has been crap, especially do to a severe lack of sleep. I was only getting sleep average 3-4 hours a day (if I was lucky). I feel so darn embarrassed. Ugh.
Title: Re: Stop these kind of topics
Post by: ultifd on 7 May 2011, 17:02:14
It's fine, I've gotten 2 to 5 hours of sleep usually in the past anyways.   :-X