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Modding and game content creation => Tools => Topic started by: Trappin on 28 November 2010, 00:45:21

Title: tree[d] - tree modeling tool
Post by: Trappin on 28 November 2010, 00:45:21
Is it possible to use this rendering tool for Glest tree modeling? import/export to glest?

Edit: the app download is hosted at https://archive.org/details/treed

The developer of tree[d] has approved CC-BY-SA licensing for models generated by this program for Glest tilesets.
Title: Re: Tree modeling tool
Post by: -Archmage- on 28 November 2010, 00:47:43
Is it possible to use this rendering tool for Glest tree modeling? import/export to glest?

http://www.frecle.net/index.php?show=treed.about
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Export 3D models to .x, .obj or .b3d

Yes! .obj can be imported into Blender! Awesome find! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Title: Re: Tree modeling tool
Post by: Trappin on 28 November 2010, 01:20:04
Less than 15 minutes to model this.

(http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz136/TrappinGlestMaps/Glest%20Other/tree_d_15minutes.png)
Title: Re: Tree modeling tool
Post by: ultifd on 28 November 2010, 01:39:29
Wow, nice!
Title: Re: Tree modeling tool
Post by: Gabbe on 28 November 2010, 11:42:53
coool! do you model, or just adjust the parameters?
Title: Re: Tree modeling tool
Post by: Trappin on 28 November 2010, 19:32:48
The program seems to do the modeling and the user just sets parameters but I really don't know for sure. tree(d) has preloaded leaves, branch, color palette and trunk textures and users can add more of each type.

Someone with modeling experience should play with this tool and see whats possible.
Title: Re: Tree modeling tool
Post by: -Archmage- on 28 November 2010, 20:33:49
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Someone with modeling experience should play with this tool and see whats possible.

I can get a good looking tree at about 2.5k polygons, though Glest tileset trees are only 20 polygons each. I know my 4670 can handle lots of polygons, but most of you guys probably don't have a dedicated gfx card, so this program might not work so well in terms of performance on integrated gfx. But seriously the 4670 is only $70(last I checked) on newegg. :P This program does make good trees though, a pine tree will be rather difficult... :look:
Title: Re: Tree modeling tool
Post by: Gabbe on 28 November 2010, 21:08:28
I get a good looking tree at 1,2k polys, now i haven`t really made an effort to decrease the count, put i suppose you could first make the tree in this program, then go into blender and edit away the parts not needed or seen.
Title: Re: Tree modeling tool
Post by: John.d.h on 28 November 2010, 21:13:54
I get a good looking tree at 1,2k polys, now i haven`t really made an effort to decrease the count, put i suppose you could first make the tree in this program, then go into blender and edit away the parts not needed or seen.
If it's anything like when I tried to do this with a "makehuman" model, it's more trouble than it's worth.  You can make a low-poly model from scratch with less time and effort than it takes to turn a high-poly one into a decent-looking low-poly.
Title: Re: Tree modeling tool
Post by: Psychedelic_hands on 29 November 2010, 08:26:02
I like this program, too bad its not really glest suited.

The problem I ran into was when I imported it, I lost the texture :(
Title: Re: Tree modeling tool
Post by: John.d.h on 29 November 2010, 12:42:05
The license on the textures is a little unclear but seems to suggest that use for non-commercial game projects is allowed and encouraged.
Yeah, too bad it's not compatible with anything Creative Commons has to offer, making licensing a tad less convenient.
Title: Re: Tree modeling tool
Post by: Trappin on 30 November 2010, 02:58:33
Quote from: tree(d)
Best of all tree[d] is free to use, and you can include the trees you make in your own projects, commercial or free, as long as they are not model packs, texture packs, 3D model generators, or texture generators.

This reads as models produced by tree[d] for use in Glest are CC BY SA or even CC0 Zero as longs as: not used in packs/generators.

I will email http://frecle.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1426 the dev and ask him for a simple license structure for open source projects.
The developer of tree[d] has approved CC-BY-SA licensing for models generated by this program for Glest tilesets.

Burningwell, Ryzom, opengameart and openfootage.net offer gigs of wood textures and leaves.

http://www.imageafter.com/
http://www.morguefile.com/
http://textures.z7server.com/
Title: Re: Tree modeling tool
Post by: anonymousjim on 3 December 2010, 14:37:34
Hey, um, talking of poly's, how many can glest handle for different things?  (link to thread?)
Title: Re: Tree modeling tool
Post by: wciow on 3 December 2010, 15:19:01
I don't think theres a thread for this but heres a brief rundown.

Small units -  1000<
Big/Special units 1000-2000
Buildings 2500<

Tileset objects - 200<
Big/Special objects - 500<

Tileset objects and very small and uncomplex units should use 256x256 textures. Special tileset objects, most units and buildings should use 512x512 textures.

Glest can happily exceed these requirements by several times, but the above values will keep glest chugging over on lower end integrated card machines.

For an example of a higher poly mod and bigger textures try running the Dwarves mod. For an example of very excessive over use of polies try the Malevolent Rising mod (some units have 10,000-15,000 polies!!).
Title: Re: Tree modeling tool
Post by: anonymousjim on 3 December 2010, 17:37:46
oh yeah, I played malevolent rising.  It is quite sapping on graphics