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[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_t62wq9m4.jpg[/img][/URL] You're navy didn't stop us, we took tons of islands with our marines! Our battleships were very good too.Hey yankee,your marines couldn't take Rabaul till the end of the war.
You're navy didn't stop us, we took tons of islands with our marines! Our battleships were very good too.I agree ;D
it was a carriar powerful enough probably its deck wont be broken by a dive bomb.so this is bull.
[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_v45mvf0s.jpg[/img][/URL] kaga conducting sea operations[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_l4ylp43n.jpg[/img][/URL] kaga with its amazing three decks[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_4bged2dy.jpg[/img][/URL] shoho under attack[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_sd3yi752.jpg[/img][/URL] shoho side photo[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_yf9ydan5.jpg[/img][/URL] [URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_r73nbg78.jpg[/img][/URL] normal photo. no fights sorry.[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_n529afoy.jpg[/img][/URL] Japan's first domestically-built steam warship, the 1866 Chiyodagata.[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_xf4c3weg.jpg[/img][/URL] Naval battle of Dan-no-Ura in 1185.[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_c92jo47l.jpg[/img][/URL] The landing of the Japanese marines from the Unyo at Ganghwa Island, Korea, in the 1875 Ganghwa Island incident.[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_t2ai8apm.jpg[/img][/URL] Satsuma, the first ship in the world to be designed and laid down as an "all-big-gun" battleship[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_y44cl9oj.jpg[/img][/URL] The British-built RyūjŠwas the flagship of the Imperial Japanese Navy until 1881.[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_we6z05as.jpg[/img][/URL] Kanrin Maru, Japan's first screw-driven steam warship, 1857[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_vj0jbigi.jpg[/img][/URL] The torpedo boat Kotaka (1887)[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_fso4h306.jpg[/img][/URL] A 1634 Japanese Red seal ship, combining eastern and western naval technologies[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_lem25d5z.jpg[/img][/URL] The French-built Kotetsu (ex-CSS Stonewall), Japan's first modern ironclad, 1869[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_waek7iwz.jpg[/img][/URL] Hosho, the first purpose-designed aircraft carrier in the world, completed (1922)[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_kkjizudv.jpg[/img][/URL] An Imperial Japanese Navy's I-400 class submarine, the largest submarine type of World War II.[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_iwhed9iu.jpg[/img][/URL] Japan's first jet-powered aircraft, the Imperial Japanese Navy's Nakajima J9Y Kikka (1945).[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_qoh3zkvu.jpg[/img][/URL] The Japanese seaplane carrier Wakamiya conducted the world's first sea-launched air raids in September 1914.[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_62vysseg.jpg[/img][/URL] Yamato, the largest battleship in history, in 1941.yeah right.about radar, the yamato had some primitive radar for only its main guns, second of all the post wildcat US fighters were far superior to the zero. I severely have doubts of the zeros capabilities, the hellcats, which according to you are "inferior" slaughtered them with ease, the p-38 was meant for speed and firepower, it also slaughtered zeros really cheap, the two seat firefly shot down zeroes as well and I haven't even reached the corsair, it was faster, well armored, could knock a zero down with a few .50 cal hits had near equal range and could carry 2000, then 4000 pounds of ordnance against the zeroes 500 or something, plus 1900 miles is only achievable with external fuel tank, not with just internal fuel :P, the zero was an okay fighter early war, poor in mid war and near worthless, in the wars final years :P :P, the US and RAF fighters were all around very good as were the german and USSR fighters, the japanese fighters on the other hand were good and occasionally excelled in maneuverability and range but lacked the firepower, speed and armor to keep up with the times, maneuverability decided combat in WW1 but in WW2 it was decided by speed and firepower which japanese fighters lacked, The Yamato barely took more punishment then the 3/5 of its weight Prince of Wales, its endurance was in no way extraordinary, its cannon lacked accuracy and the medium artillery was about equal to anything the allies had but not superior and it was in open casemates making it vulnerable to strafing and HE bombs, the US fighters were extremely efficient in suppressing AA fire by strafing the anti air positions and killing the crew, in my honest opinion the order of technology in varying aspects is as follows the first one is in my opinion best, last one is worst,
Yamato had fire control. It had radar directed guns. Although not as accurate. Fired its shells in an area. The Yamato had the best turning radius. The best stability. The shells that plunge even at short range ( and had ability like a torpedo). It had effective 6 inch guns ( if good trained crew). It could take lots of punishment. All its secondary guns could do more damage and had better range than Iowa secondary guns.
meybe you should get your facts more right next time
saying that IJN ships never and wont have any radar control guns is like saying that if tow countries go to war both wont expand their weapons and advance them to overwhelm the enemy's army and attempt to fight at better chances
zeros are exellent planes WITHOUT any doubts, it has an incredible feul tank. real agility. i toke one of world's greates fighters at the war, it was a lethal dogfighter which IJN will probably lose the war much quicker without it, the zero can outfly and outfight ANYTHING the allies had, it can fly for 1900 miles without a refill
all IJN fighters and bombers were made to be agile and fast and menouverble. like ninja
USA made them to be all round but never seem to success properly..... trying to combine armor and powerfull guns and speed and agility in one plane is extremley hard. so allies dont gain their purposes. theres always weak points
USA navy's AA if it was as good as you say it would have not lost lexignton and other ships and transporters....
and also countred back attacking kamikazes with ease
IOWA is a piece of crap for a head on fight with yamato....
you are taking wildcats and P-38s as holy and masterpieces...the wildcat had better firepower then the zero but it was also older, the p-38 was fast, well armed, had good range, was twin engined and had okay armor, the only superior aspect of the zero was its maneuverability which could be easily by passed by hit and run which the zero couldn't dodge, survive or intercept, it was like mid 1942 when they were beating zeros with wildcats the hellcat was near untouchable by the zero, also, if the zeroes so good, explain the marianas turkey shoot to me, hundreds of shot down japanese planes, two dozen or so shot down american planes, the kamikaze also never sank a major ship, they sanks a couple of small escort carriers and some picket destroyers, your grossly over estimating the effect of kamikazes, they were only good for under armored destroyers and light carriers, on the battle ships, cruisers and british aircraft carriers, they wouldn't make a scratch, both the Iowa and Yamato have good range but the Iowa has superior gunnery radar, meaning that in a fight it will score multiple hits for everyone the Yamato scores :P, A fact about ohkas, very few were actually sent up, almost all had their betty carrier shot down and most of those that were launched got shot down, very few ever hit a target. What do you mean the yamato can respond quickly, that sentence doesn't make sense. The allies feared the kamikaze because they thought it was crazy that someone would do such a thing, not because it had a high success rate. The corsair was near invulnerable against the zero, here let me make a nice good comparison of the two craft the model A6m5 zero, versus F4U-1A corsair(later ones had multiple changes) :)
dude. mid war? it was like 1946 when they knew how fight zeros and now your sorrying me for wildcats shooting down zeros?
no way. wildcats is a workhorse. its a lazy plane hardly agile and well armored thats all
yamato had radar controls. iowa had but whats the point of its long range without bieng able to shoot accuratly ::)
late in the war where zeros and IJN stuff were useless they become verry effective in this kamikaze, sinking down alot of US ships
ohka rockets were hardly shoot dude! it was missiles with jet engines thats even probably 10 battleships will hit it
even corsairs were not as good. they were mid-low for zeros, but it h nice wings and huge engine
yamato can respond very quickly to anything because of its agility and large modern bridge
OMG the corsair will shoot down zero easy but as i told you zeros can turnaround and easily menouver and pwn the corsairs tail, thats bye bye for corsair. zeros are hardly hit with menouver. it planted a true fear and cowardice in alot of allies even late in the war that fear was still on result of kamikaze
cheers!
its a fact zeros are able to outfight and outfly anything the allies had in the whole start intro of the war untill they had better planes50% success ::) ::) where do you get your info all of my sources place their hit rate at somewhere between 10% and 35%. Also, other then a few cases it was only minor damage, You think the Yamato is so amazing, it barely survived more hits then the HMS Prince of wales, which is roughly half its weight as is the Iowa which has better technology good guns and armor. The Yamato is only famous for its size, it never achieved anything of value in its career. The zero, a wonder, ::) ::), it could only maneuver, it was a plane for WW1 not WW2 where tactics stopped depending on dogfights, but they depended on speed, firepower, and survivability, Zero pilots even feared early b-17s because they could barely shoot them down and the B-17 could gut them with ease, the zero was worse then nearly all fighters it faced with the exception of the buffalo, maybe the hurricane, wildcat, and p-40, all were considered second rate by their users, the zero was hopeless against its peers of the time period that were of the same time and not 5 years older. it couldn't match the hellcat, spitfire, focke wulf, me 109 or mosquito or p-38, or p-47 or p-51 or typhoon or firefly. some even got shot down by beaufighters, trainers and blenheims. the zero was crap for the time, its maneuverability would have been good in WW1 not in a period where speed and firepower decided all. The zero also failed to adapt to the times, unlike the spitfire and me 109. radar guidance was amazing, the US ships had wonderful precision for the time, which the japanese couldn't match. The brits had the best aircraft carriers without a doubt, in the pacific, the best tank was undoubtedly the matilda, it was small enough for jungle combat, invulnerable to japanese shells its gun can take out any japanese tank and it sometimes had a flamethrower. ;D
zeros have long range and an exellent tanks and it was a DOGFIGHTER
its a fact, can be changed by okay or good or fine
it was a masterpiece that was called a wonder
late in the war they dident have any good pilots to man zeros else it will beat down alot better
effect of kamikaze was better then sending the bombers all in to attack with barley a diffrence then kamikaze but this time its not crashing at ships
zeros were lost at the last day. so they made into a verry effective weapon that damaged and sank US ships
yeah right. one shot by yamato's main guns can sink iowa in lets say no matter of time. yamato CAN defeat iowa, and also iowa had much weaker armor
yamato can respond by its agility to outmenouver a torpedo dropped from 50 or 20 yards away, makes sense
ohka were jet engined. i can out run and betty bombers had to stay out of range or it wil just hav loads of flak shells will just explode by with low acuraccy because of the long range, radars will help the range but wont help effeciency shooting from afar
zeros were amazing creations of fear infested in allies hearts, no doubt at this,
the fear was in the kamikaze will hit them or not, but it was 50% success for kamikazes. somehow
cheers! :)
dude, zeros had little time yet they were beating alot and alot of US and british planes. thats it, solved, zeros are the bestfor the startair combat in ww2 was decided by speed and firepower, genius, the zero lacked both and thus could not be efficient against anything but the second rate fighters in the pacific, they failed to match the out dated spitfire mk V's with a few exceptions, the main amount of spitfire losses was due to running out of fuel. with the ww1 thing, your completely missing my point, the zero would have been good for ww1 because of its maneuverability, I never said it served then ::), just for your info, the fighters facing the zero in the beginning of the war were way out classed because most were older then the zero by 5+ years, the wildcat was crap, the hurricane and fulmar were poor and still occasionally beat the zero, and the brewster buffalo was, well, lets not even go there, the p-40 was old but the AVG still slaughtered everything from ki-43s to zeros to bombers. you are comparing the zero to old aircraft, the good allied aircraft were initially being used mainly against the good german aircraft, the spitfire's mk V and IX were far superior to the zero, as was the typhoon, the mustang, p-38 and p-47 were also far superior to the zero, as was the russian mig, yak and lavochkin, the german bf 109f was better then the zero, and so was the FW-190, the whirlwind was a great twin engine plane that was better then the zero, as was the mosquito. The american and british pilots managed to stay alive, unlike most experienced japanese pilots, meaning that they soon outmatched their enemies, and from late 1942 to early 1943 new planes like the hellcat, corsair, spitfires mk V and p-38s conducted a series of massacres that the japanese couldn't stop combat or do anything about, the zero was only feared when the allies had few good aircraft in the pacific, after that the allies viewed it with contempt and pitied how they outmatched it. in 1944 it was getting shot down by typhoons and fireflies, they sucked, post late 1942. Also, allied pilots could decide when to attack or run due to better speed, they didn't have to stay and fight, also, one scratch from a 50. cal and the zero fell down. I will agree that the zeroes were great when faced with inexperienced pilots in old aircraft, but when faced with the equipment used in the frontline in the western theater, they were doomed. Heavier does not mean better, the performance of Yamato was in no way spectacular for its size, its AA guns were not radar guided and it lacked medium AA artillery of something in the 37-40mm category, the 25mm was only good at short range, like the allied 20mm's and the heavy AA artillery is inaccurate and inefficient at least the allies had radar mounted on it. The british only lost three battleships, the Barnham and Royal Oak to submarines and the Prince of Wales to japanese land aircraft with heavy torpedoes. The Yamato didn't shoot down, many aircraft and its AA defenses were innacurate though as mentioned huge, as also mentioned, they lacked the all critical medium AA artillery. The SS was suicidal and conducted horrible slaughter on many innocent people, they were well equipped and pretty well trained though. The German Falschirmjager, the US rangers and paras, the british SAS and paras and the finnish and Polish were probably the best troops of ww2. 10 and 7 hits is not amazing for a ship of its size and is called poor damage control and neither is how the americans sank Yamatos sister ship aircraft carrier with a submarine. I'm not sure about the japanese cruiser, I'll check that, do you know what it was named :|. Yes speed decided ww2 battles, thats why the allies wreaked such havoc on the japanese because of their superior speed, the battle of britain was mostly fought with such tactics, ad was most of the whole war. The german tanks were nothing amazing, early war, they used mainly Czech tanks, and the early panzer III was crap, the panzer IV was okay, but had trouble with matildas and valentines. The Char b1 and the somua were both better for example as was the matilda. The t-34's and KV1's were near impossible for the germans to take out early on. The Crusader was equal to the panzer III and the later Panzer IV was equal to the sherman and cromwell, it had a better gun but they had better armor. The tiger was okay but too slow, heavy, unreliable etc, some even got taken out by m24 chaffees, The sherman firefly was able to take it out with relative ease. the panther was pretty good but outweighed other medium tanks by 7+ tons, it even outweighed, the heavy tank Churchill, it also lacked proper side armor and it was unreliable. The koenigtiger was well armored and armed but extremely unreliable, slow and unable to cross many bridges, not to mention an easy target for air attack. In my opinion the best tank was the IS-2, it was better armed and armored then the panther, while being a ton lighter it was about equal to the tiger I, but was faster, and versus the koenig tiger, it was way lighter and could take it out in a medium range, though it was very vulnerable to the koenig tigers great gun, it was also faster and more reliable, the comet was nearly equal to the panther and weighed over 10 tons less. Fun fact about the IS-2, ISU-122 and ISU-152, while their main guns lacked great penetration power, the mere shell shock would shake the armor or tore the turrets off of nearly anything it hit. The british ships especially aircraft carriers were quite possibly the best in the war. Face the facts the zero was no good when it met aircraft that were roughly of the same generation. Its myth was of greatness was blown away and it only succeeded against older aircraft.
heavier, heavier means better gunnery and performence, fix your opanians
the pride of the british navy, prince of wales and other such as prince of wales battleships were sunk by a bunch of germen bombers, the pride of the british navy was trashed
germen tanks weak? reconsider this extremley stupid word, germen tanks were perhaps the best tanks in the entire and meybe the whole world
in the other, japanese troops were brave but mostly inexperienced, germen troops were speciel and brave and highly trained, SS troops were like spartans
IJN made the heaviest armeed and armoured heavy cruiser in the world during the war
there was a battle off rabual or other sea where a squadron of 4 zeros led by an ace attacked and destroyed about 9 lightnings from 12
10 torpedos and 7 dive bombs is not few for your information, reconsider the yamato's aircraft kills. it had the best AA and flak during the war i may say,this is not assured but yamato had a very HUGE number of AA and flak mounted on a ship
WW1? there was no zeros back then, if japan joint the germens in WW1 with zeros, the british and US and all other countries will be crushed in no matter of time.
lets take the word of the experts and warriors, zero was called a wonder weapon, it had a very amazing menouverbility and agility and range and feul tanks and it was a dogfighter and it was rated one of the war's best kills and the IJN made a ace flight, it was even upgraded to a sea plane, it was the best carriar based in the entire world, the allies themselfs called a dogfighter so dont challange me challange them,
winning world war 2 air combat is speed?
this is a nice joke
[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_m73cz5i8.jpg[/img][/URL] the beutifull jet fighter of luftwaffe, it proved very difficult to shoot for its speed and claimed 509 allied pilots, the allies were able to shoot it only when landed or taking off but when it goes to air its near impossible to shoot it down[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_iao05cta.jpg[/img][/URL] this is a Junkers Ju 88 became one of the most versatile combat aircraft of the war. Affectionately known as "The Maid of all Work" (a feminine version of "jack of all trades"), the Ju 88 proved to be suited to almost any role. Like a number of other Luftwaffe bombers, it was used successfully as a bomber, dive bomber, night fighter, torpedo bomber, reconnaissance aircraft, heavy fighter, and even as a flying bomb during the closing stages of conflict.[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_6rf4cqpm.jpg[/img][/URL]
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[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_e7kra0ud.jpg[/img][/URL] and the powerfull junkers (stuka) bombers, the german army used them in posters declaring victory also in recruitment posters. stukas were one of the best, they rear gunners were devilish and very accurate and the bomber itself is EXTREMLEY ACCURATE and it was an effective bomber to take out ships, it was a well armored bomber and also very agile for a bomber, stukas earnt their lengthy glory, they were powerfull bombers[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_wvn23wxs.jpg[/img][/URL] betty bombers in a raid over australian island darwin[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_yrdiiw4g.jpg[/img][/URL] betty bombers in flight[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_3vfsbnuf.jpg[/img][/URL] this is a tony fighter, pwnage for hellcats and corsairs and P-38 and P-40 and wildcats, it was a mass produced extremley agile fighter and very powerfull and fearfull that i told you the IJN had better fighters, USA was gonna be crushed if the IJN had well train avaitors, this fighter had a liquid-cooled inline V engine. [URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_fk3gi839.jpg[/img][/URL]
[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_ythc8jtn.jpg[/img][/URL] this is the IJN's frank fighter, it was the legend of the war perhaps, it was more ten a match against hellcats and corsairs which fell mass victims to it, Featuring excellent performance and high maneuverability, the Ki-84 was considered to be the best Japanese fighter to see large scale operations during WWII. It was able to match any Allied fighter, and to intercept the high-flying B-29 Superfortresses. Its powerful armament (that could include two 30 mm and two 20 mm cannons) increased its lethality[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_memafhqs.jpg[/img][/URL] thats a val diver which was an able aircraft of the whole war, it sank more US ships then any other plane did and it toke a large role in kamikaze which made it an effective weapon for the IJN to use.[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_s6mojjz8.jpg[/img][/URL]
[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_76yn49d6.jpg[/img][/URL] thats the epic luftwaffe successful bombe of the war, it was a superior bomber for air superioriority and air raids and torpedo runs, it proved capable of sustaining very heavy punishment, it was often described as a wolf in a sheep's clothesSPITEFIRES AND TEMPSETS WERE COMPLETLEY OVERWHELMED BY LATER GERMAN AIRCRAFT,The german navy was vastly inferior to the US and british navies, they also lost most of their lighter ships at norway, they were only advanced in submarines, the SS killed millions, get it, millions of civilians, even if that isn't all they would have killed all had they won, the Brits smashed the Germans in the air, the tempest and late mark spitfire were superior to all late war german piston fighters in the air and they could outturn, outrun and beat nearly all opposition, including the me262, which had poor acceleration, its guns tended to jam, the engines often blew up and they killed just as many of their own as of the enemy with these fighters due to the unreliability, the Allied jets, like the meteor and Vampire(missed the war by a few weeks/months) in britain and the US P-80(also missed the war by a few weeks) were far more reliable, safer, equally fast and more maneuverable. Face the facts, the brits beat the germans in the battle for britain, the t-34/85 was slightly better then the late mark panzerIV's, the IS-2 was better then the panther and tiger, the comet was nearly as good as the panther and a good 10+ tons lighter, the churchill was 38 tons and very versatile and useful, the pershing was as good as the tiger and the IS-3 missed the war by a few weeks and was the best tank design of its day and so on. The allies had pretty good tanks too as you see, they also had much more concentrated production, though stuff like the sherman and cromwell were crap.
get your head out of propaganda, and start thinking and realizing, why would SS soldiers excute all the civilians? think about it
heavy or not, nor better allied tanks were able against them, they were actually crushed, germans got defeated because they were a small and outunmbered country, they had to help attacking partisans in italy, and hold france, and hold captured cities of russia, the SS proved themselfs worthy thru all this war,
speed record in world's fastest flight dude, germany would be WHUPPIN britian, it was an island dude not a fort....
great heroism where? russians were massacred by the much outnumbered SS and they were mostly outnumbered in the eastern front because they had a huge soviet infront of them, germans captured town after another, leningrad, stalingrad all the way to moscow
dude, italy had to break out because of the partisans and the death of its great president bentino mossulini and romania kept fighting along, japan was bombed by nuclear
poor rocket? your joking right, germany was like lighting HELL in london with their cruise rockets, also germany were the best jet designing industry in the world
fat? thats an insult, churchill was fat too, while rosvelt was a stick smoking 100 cigaattes a day
rommel takes top, one of the best leaders the world recognized, while zhukov was an @ss with an angry look on his face every day,
spitfires and tempsets were ground fighters that can be beaten in air, also schornhorst and prinz eugon and brandenburg, bismarch, those you call weak?
no.... historiclly, stukas and vals can fight out with enemis on their own, especielly in early fights, stuka is agile and medium gun and armor and val was fast, the allies had to like tighten turns alot with IJN planes that they started to stall alot of times,@Hakegura
tempst and spitfires look alot like eachother and they're seriously not beutifull, honestly
stuka with its nicley gulled and shor wings was beutifull and also HE111 bombers were incredibly nice looking with a side view for it
finns were poorly armed and poorly trained, why did you say they were the best???
germans infantry were the best, and also artilllery, katyusha would like hit a very wide radius if the sorounding area f the target, it was completly useless, germans had the best and heaviest and most dangerous artillery have ever seen service or made....
germans attempted to assist mussolini back atop his governjment but failed as german borders were gbesiged, dude the SS were like holding off alot of outnumbered and outnumbering enemies and aircraft,
dude, flanked or not tigers can make a massive damage and extreme casualties to advancing enemies with a very long range guns and also panther was near impossible to kill or destroy by anything, infantry are like crap and useless to take on tanks, they infact get crushed by tanks that have a great armor, allied troops were usually not well equiped and armed and given few greneds while strumgrenadiers and volksgrenadiers and and fallscchirmjager even volksstrumm were heavily armed with anti-tank panzercreck (armor terror) and the short range of allied tanks was usually promising the german anti-tank to advance and take minimum damage and fire and run!
king tiger 2 was a creation of massiv destruction and death to allies.... they were unable to take it out with stuarts and shermans and lees and sometimes churchills and cromwells and all other tanks, while germans produced their extremley deadly and killer mauser super heavy tanks that has the range of artillery and the speed of a tiger and the power to hole down a modern skyscrapper or reduce a mediaval bulwark to pieces and reduce a heavily armored churchill from a tank to a piece of squished iron, nothing could stand up to it except extreme heavy air assault with extra rockets top accurate and high speed otherwise it will result in alot of ammo waste.... either artillery such as priests and long toms were unable to detroy the tank even with accurate shots, panzers were ann exellent support for infantry and lighht armor and blizkreig assault, dont say they were crap they were very effective beating down alot russian and allied tanks with ease, while italy brought its carros to the fight for light tank support and armor support and light infantry, panzers are able to advance in speed while shooting alot of enemys down instead of a crappy lee or a sherman or churchills, pershings were an industrial nightmare also were much weaker for the german tanks, and in medium tanks panzers definetly win, inn the anti-aircraft warfare germans win with alot of heavy flak both able to shoot tanks and planes with asee,
corsairs were as deadly to its enemies alo as deadly to its own pilots for serioustechnical trouble and usually its can be outmanouvred by oscars very easily, while trying to tighten turns it stalls and gets destroyed with no kills, like in the marianas turkeyshoot, allied planes fell one ater another shoot down by oscars and vals and zeros and shot apart and scattered without a great much of victory, it was a pwnage of death for alied planes that fell down along with alot of defeats untill the turning point at midway
[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_ee3y4dky.jpg[/img][/URL] german light recoiless gun, very effective VS all ground targets, can be used by airborne infantry and light infantry[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_lckud5ip.jpg[/img][/URL]15 cm Nebelwerfer 41 multiple rocket launcher, more then able to destroy advancing enemies although its more accurate and fires like a bombard cannister instead of loose and spread missiles, amazingly effective VS armor, infantry and columns and buildings[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_r7pi3iqk.jpg[/img][/URL]
[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_twtcf4p0.jpg[/img][/URL] those are Karl-Geräts , check out the sieze, [URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_0thg2zpu.jpg[/img][/URL] this is an another light recoiless gun was able to fire at high rate at advancing enemy of any kind (land enemy) this gun fires grenades instantly like a grenade launcher, it used to fire and fallback by recoil while reloading[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_kczj2vfc.jpg[/img][/URL] The 12.8 cm FlaK 40, was a German World War II anti-aircraft gun built as the successor to the 88 mm gun. Although it was not produced in high numbers, it was one of the most effective heavy AA guns of its era, award winning and effective guns used especielly in the defense of berlin, The gun fired a 27.9 kg (57.2-pound) shell at 880 m/s (2,890 ft/s) to a maximum ceiling of 14,800 m (48,556 ft). Compared with the 88mm FlaK 18 & 36, the 128 used a powder charge four times as great which resulted in a shell flight time only one-third as long. This made aim against fast-moving targets much easier.[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_ak0jwswv.jpg[/img][/URL] The 21 cm Kanone 12 in Eisenbahnlafette (21 cm K 12 (E)) was a German railroad gun used in the Second World War. it was a furiously and strategiclly long range firing gun that will shoot for support and naval guarding and lots of damage with long range makes it over the top, this picture shows it ready for firing[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_gtwbi5cm.jpg[/img][/URL] In the first years of the war, the Wehrmacht had less interest in developing self-propelled anti-aircraft guns, but as the Allies developed air superiority, the need for more mobile and better-armed self-propelled anti-aircraft guns increased, this one's a very powerfull air craft shooter that is able and capable to shoot alot of allies with heavy precise machine The combination of armor and rapid fire from the four guns of the Wirbelwind also made it very effective against ground targets aswell, it has maximum protection for crew and also very effective at shooting the lightly armored spitfires[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_up9qqd2l.jpg[/img][/URL] check this railway gun out, its a vetren of both WORLD WAR 1 and 2, it was originally a naval gun thts what made its damage over the top, it served in coastal defense after they finished with it in the frontlines, it was truelly helpfull and effective gun of both WW1 and WW2 only had 2 models in service[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_hbq9ad9c.jpg[/img][/URL] 21 cm Mörser 16 was a heavy field howtizer for extremly long range support and attacks, seving as a field bombardier and support for advancing friendly troops, it was effective for firing heavy shells and large explosions terrorizing enemies to death[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_rrxi65iv.jpg[/img][/URL] yet an another haubtize, and this one is yet another world war 1 and world war 2 vetran!!! this one was amazing services esecielly coast guard duties although it could've been slightly more effective as a supporter in the eastern front, if germany gathered all those up and pushed them into russia, they could even possibly turn the tide :o now thats a defeater of katyushas and organstalins, this one also particepated in the seiege of Sevastopol.[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_osa3vxe9.jpg[/img][/URL] marder tank, one of the best anti-tanks in the war, it was a verry effective and often used by the german army, most of it was made in captured french factories, it furiously toke out the allied tanks with ease, extremley long range and top damage to blow them tanks up without difficulties[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_kdsxyeqn.jpg[/img][/URL] Krupp K5 was an extremley long heavy railway gun that can fire like from city to city, it was an able artillery to squish advancing enemiees of alll types with no difficulty, also defended by machineguns and rifles in it, it will be able to defend itself while firing to support friendly tropops,[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_m2pcjr08.jpg[/img][/URL] The 15 cm Kanone 16 (15 cm K 16) was a very heavy field gun used by Germany in World War I and World War II. proved effective in fire support and coast guarding and mobility along with escorting divisions and corps[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-12-2010-almlf_com_l6iw42nd.jpg[/img][/URL] The 7.5 cm PaK 40 (7.5 cm Panzerabwehrkanone 40) was a German 7.5 centimetre anti-tank gun developed in 1939-1941 by Rheinmetall and used during the Second World War. PaK 40 formed the backbone of german anti-tank guns for the latter part of World War II. it was effective gun VS tanks and armordude, russians had poor guns either and also volkstrum and militia-mostly all nazi forces were armed with heavy damage MP40 and MG34 and gehwer guns, kar 98 was'nt bad infact it was effective both close range and long range to counter back assaults, russia had poor industry resulted in weak weapons and primitive aswell,First off, the militia was generally armed with just rifles, smg's like the mp40 were usually used by the following, NCO's, secondary weapons for gunners, tankers weapons, and paratroops. Infatry squads were organized as I just mentioned, 5 riflemen, a 3 man machine gun team with an mg34 and later and mg42, and a mp40 armed nco, fallschirmjager had and extra 2man machine gun squad, only limited numbers of troops ever recieved weapons like the stg44 and fg42-43. compared to this, american squads almost always consisted of a mix of semi automatic carbines and tommy guns, while the russians were armed either with lots of bolt action rifles but in the case of Guards soldiers and assault troops, it was near 100% smg's and SVT's with lmg support, british squads were the only ones who maintained the doctrine of bolt action rifles but also had sten gunners and bren lmg's in support.
try to not fix the crapness of UK's anti-sub defense, the cannel contains craploads of dead convoys or ships, what anti-sub defense? sonar? water bazookas? no. it operated completley submerged so please under stand that it could not be possibly seen by a ship or a plane or any other crap like that, I 400 was capeble and extremley large with a medium anti-air gun and the planes WERE impressive, taking out scouts and intercepting, even shooting allied supplies or reinforcments, and also a powerfull armor, and also you have the range advantage for a fallback by recoil so you will not b caught, omg, yo fallback while reloading, dettach, fire, limbre and reload, from a mximum range you cant be caught at all,
allies had like good anti-air like what gun? bofors? dont tak about it it stinks in anti-air it had a poor armor and very short range while ostwind and werbelwind were medium and long range and were able to fire while moving bieng mobile and powerfull anti-air
particulary? dude, katyusha was widley and unbelivably inaccurate, it was firing like 50 missiles for a single vehicle or something out, nebelwerfer was happens to be probably one of world's most accurate missile launchers
ever heard of germany's armored vehicles and recon? they were even able to punish and completley trash and shower infantry AND tanks with shells and machineguns, that germany had the best armored vehicles and recon in the war, best planes especiielly in speed goes for germany, completley, while allied aircraft usually lacking armor and guns and agility, they didnt make all round planes while ME109 was an able and capeble planes, and focke wulfs was all able to shoot and manuever and accalearate and shoot,
hey how can like fortify a tank while moving it? your gonna like rope the sandbags on the tank or your just guns shower the sand over the tank? and panzerfausten was an elite anti tank was more then capeble and fearsomly able to take nearly all the world's tanks out at the time,
russia dident had planes to counter back those railguns, and railguns were more then able to bomb up and trash 40 shermans with 1 precise shot
british paras? are you serious?they were almostly doing like nothing in the war, they were'nt trained, anyways the whole britis army was very regular instead of elite, it had a small army untill germany invaded they quickly conscripted large numbers of people to their army with low training they were pushed, volksturm were one of the last troops surviving the wr that fough with germany do you know that? they slaughtered tanks
panthers and tigers were able to fire while moving, and for your information, churchills were weak tanks, lacking a good gun, it would be easily ambushed or even stupidl attacked by infantry and fried up,
werbelwind was'nt inaccurate infact its mass bullets can ripe an entire air offensive with just inaccurate and unconcentraed fire, fail... and also heard of ballestics?
you can take out a marder by encercling it or by jumping like a superman over it, no so easy to shoot it out without a skyscarpper either,
jagdpanther could out beat and like put a nice piece of iron through the armor of all allied tanks
smoke? so what, like the russians are gonna send cossacks to handle it? artillery anything? nope, smoke is'nt a problem and also there was no rocket launcher dustless, and nebelwerfer was completley terrfying russian otherwise the germans wont build so many arresting camps and jails in russia, sheesh!
nearly all allied tanks were armed with extremley poor guns, do you realize that 3 panzer III can take out a churchill? and do you realize 2 pershings would be squished under the gun of a tiger king? and do you realize that a panther can defeat an anti-tank column? and also sturmtigers were one of the best at taking out an entire armored division, and stug dident need a turret, it was an assault gun, whats the actual point of a turret?
lets curse peace AND START AN ANOTHER WORLD WAR! :thumbup: YEAHThat kind of attitude is not allowed on this forum. Please mind yourself. I don't know if you're joking or being serious, but it matters not, as joke or no joke, it's certainly no laughing matter. I don't care what you think or believe in, but on the board, please mind yourself.
lets curse peace AND START AN ANOTHER WORLD WAR! :thumbup: YEAHThat kind of attitude is not allowed on this forum. Please mind yourself. I don't know if you're joking or being serious, but it matters not, as joke or no joke, it's certainly no laughing matter. I don't care what you think or believe in, but on the board, please mind yourself.
do you know wurferhmen? one of the best rocket artillery. it would bomb off katyushas like shooting turkeys. it was slightly and defnitley better then katyusha. much much better.you mean the panzerwerfer or the stuka su fuss, both were nice, I have a model of the panzerwerfer but neither were better then the katyusha and they were built in very very small numbers.
hmm. the 101st airborne got their ass kickd by the fallschirmjagers. and even more armored and light divisons fell victims of the elie fallschirmjager. terrfying the allies. they flee quickly when facing off with fallschirmjagers that actually armed with powerfull tank assault guns and very well armed with automatic guns and heavy infantry cleaning machine guns. the allies learnt how to respect the fallschirmjagers without taking any step forward.
british army sucked. seriously. no offense but it HAD sucked. with weak an untrained army of regulars and weaker paras armed with mostly WW1 guns they were tottaly disadvantaged to every german troops.
errrm. panzer IV had an extra armor by attaching armor to its flanks. so i declare it the best medium tank with high speed and very high volocity gun and powerfull armor it deserves the best medium tank in te war. equipped with a nice long range 70MM gun with legndary precise shots (best of the war) and panzer lll was an other top light tank,, hunting flanks and assaulting infantry. it results that it had came atop one of the best light tanks of WW2
seriously.. seriously. SERIOUSLY. what kind of sonar or depth charge can actually destroy it while its deep within? it was submerged also once you'll be charging towards a sub, you'll be sinking before that you realize that there was a sngle torpedo fired, using sonar means you'll have to charge towards the sub and try to keep it in sight while it can go deep leve and run away and you still think its there, nothing was able to outfight them, even planes carrying depth charge could'nt do that. and I-400 was a high performance and the planes were impressive, they'll carry depth charge and bomb off USA subs off to little bits.
nah bofors gun was a completley weak damage with usually very light shells. the epic stukas were able to rush withing 50% of its range before it will respond and go into action, though fast planes were like trashing down and waling over bofors and the m16 gun you talked about is crappy aswell, it was usually light ammo so every typ of light or fighter bombers can take it completley before it starts doing serious damage, dont forget that its slow responding at aiming.
t34 was like junked down, trashed, killed, ultra killed, slaughtered by tigers, tigers had an amazing legendery 88MM gun with high vvolocity and even highher acuraccy and top range, it was arguably the best, flanked or not in reality it takes 3 shermans to only flank it but the shermans or still doomed, and in reality it toke 7-10 shermans to take out 1 tiger, tiger was a legend of war. a dreadfull foe tha inspired a large terror an fear and wrecked complete havoc in alied ranks.... and it was the dream of every tank crewmen, tigers when appeared, the next 2 following years after the tiger showed up, there was nothing as strong as it, there was litterly not a single type of anti-tank in the world can destroy it. it was a top supertank of legends. good luck with your sucidal tiger flanking attempt in the phase where you'll have to run through a field under fire by a very extended long range and high acuraccy gun firing from afar, shermans were very weak aarmor and had a very light gun either a low range for a medium tank like that, it was honestly, a crap tank. it was'nt designed to face off tanks at all. and it was urgently designed with poor scales and quality only to replace the even crappier and worse lee tanks, then cames the even more legendary tiger king.... it inspired a true fear this time, the allies run and flee in terror once they hear of any tigers in the field, one tiger could take out thousands of infantry in a single phase with a nice anti infantry defense, tiger was the businass. allied generals had to extremley cover alot of intelligance from their officars and armies to not wreck avoc amongst the ranks like saying "he tigers were destroyed by our thunderbolts YAY" or saying "germans ran outta tigers" to keep their amies from panicking completley, most of every allied tanks dident keep its crews safe. alot of shermans were seen dead on the field, but it looks like not damage or on fire, it seemed abandoned, though once they checked it inside they found the dead crew inside has been chopped and picked to little bits after a sheell passed through the halll. alot of allied tanks same thing occures to it, weak armor dident provide them a chance to survive a shell from nearly any tank. also shermans ha a large reputation for burningg.
this is fun right? i think its not like all days your gonna have someone to talk about history with. i like sharing and talking about history. we're living in a coward dull world. lets curse peace AND START AN ANOTHER WORLD WAR! :thumbup: YEAH
ok i just wanted to share a story with everyone about my uncle in Vietnam.
He was in the army and useing a mine detectore looking to clear the road for the trucks when suddenly they were amboushed he wenct to take cover when he was shot in the neck. It went in one side and out the other. Surprisingly it dident hit anything inportent and he lived. He than was in shock so he dident know he was shot. He just knew he fell on his combat knife that was in his hand. He felt it stab his leg. Then when the medic rescude him he kept yelling at the medics MY LEG MY LEG!!! and they told him that his leg wasent the problem that it was his neck. He lived to tell the story to me and im telling the story to you guys. :) :)
by the way. germany had wy more superior AT guns (pak 40, 88MM flakpanzer) while british. inheriting relics from world war 1, have'nt got the skills nor the talent to match teir superior enemy germany. with mostly world war 1 artillery. old tanks. an embarassing lack of recon. their whole army armed with outdated world war 1 guns. weak aircraft while bieng compared to german ones. no techenology. not advance. nothing impressive. nothing would go higher the germany. even in tactics and mind thinking. germans had better brains to invent the rapid offensive tactic of "blitzkrieg(lightning war)" yeah thats the truth. either the french. trying to fire on germany with mostly the same situation of the british. using world war 1 relics. germans even in world war 1 were way more advanced then their enemies. the germans also invented world's first assault rifle. best guns. much better then allied ones. better infantry. by the way. SAS does'nt deserve to be best infantry in world war 2..... they dident conduct very speciel operations. nor they dident do like the fallschirmjager did. not better armed. not braver. fallschirmjagers had the gutts to land on enemy islands where theres nothing called escape. killed much more. bieng also frontline soldiers helped. both frontline and speciell operation troops. the SAS and rangers served in secret stuff like recon and spying like snakes. instead going on the enemy's own and fighting face to face. battle of crete where the fallschirmjager proved themselfs worthy. and they did it man times more.... bieng also nationalists and brave belives. they had pride and self honor. not like those SAS and rangers who got in only for bieng school drop outs or bieng too poor to get anything from reall jobs. here you go.@mapmaster-your uncle must be a tough and brave man to survive such an event, thats very admirable courage.
the germans had the best anti-air capacity. with an epic wirbelwind and ostwinds and 88MM and 20MM that could be used to destroy a massive number of aircraft. by means. b-24 and b-17 definetlly dident stood a slim chance of avoiding AA fire. ostwinds. were awesomly great AA that none allied soldier would dream to possess one. getting sad over it. no more stisfied with bofors :( wirbelwind. was a legend. a masterpiece. a creation of awesomness!!!!! if you like explosions. like reall big and rapid ones. go for a wirbelwid. wirbelwind. is a shell machinegun. by means it fires bombs. meaning a machine gun fires rappidly shells and explosive bombs instead of bullets. in 5 seconds. it would fie what 30 bofor guns would fire in a minute. also with high explosive. nothing would pass it. including very fast planes. so how it would go on bombers? so you think the german army is'nt miracleous. well. then how THE HELL did a single wirbelwind slay 460 allied infantrymen on the beaches of normandy.... and im sure it scored the same number in killing aircraft. people think D day is a victory. oh well. like i said below. it was an another victory turning joke. the outnumbered germans killed thousands and hundreds of both pilots and infantry and tanks. their powerfull long ranged 150MM artillery busted alot of landing craft and ships. their siegfried line held like the tiger infront a horde of flies, cockroaches and ants.
stukas. with a designing of a lifetime. it can easily break through fortfications. was the best and definetllly said to be the most advanced bomber of the world. gulled wings giving it agility to turn fight with enemy fighters (just like the val) and armor to whistand some punishment. a deadly rear machinegun. a mass destructive payload. most people got chickened out from it they had to make it look bad. it was a masterpiece. was knowen to be tremendous at breaking forts with a powerfull ultra accurate deadly attack VS fortfications. go ahead. build yourself concentrations of thick iron and cement. even the thickest fortfications. would epic fail. no really. there was alot of examples for this gift of ultimate strength VS any kind of defenses. dont talk to me about battle of london. it was used inapropriatly as a tactical bomber. most spitfirres avoided the jaws and nails of the back gunners. if they get unlucky and get in its range. they're totally. dead. with their weakling armor. definetly will not stand up to the punishment. either 4 guns freezing evreytime you get higher then the stop sign would'nt go great for you at shooting enemy bombers.
the germans had a panther. panther was something.... ummm ... between a tank killer and a main battle tank and a moving fortfication. it was a super tank. a very huge techenological leap forward; superior inclined armor. the gun mounted on the panzer four (a better and longer ranged version of it) high mobility. an ability to cross hardest of terriens. the panther was way ahead of its own panzer family (and even more ahead of its counterpart foriegns) panthers give the germans opurtunity to have the best medium tank in the world (and sevrel engineers and historicans praised it and described it to be world's first modern tank. the bloody T-34 were something awesom. but dude!!! no one with a mind could say its able to fight off tigers. also tiger king had 28KMPH (faster the tiger 1) and with a massive gun. and strength to drive and cut through a skyscrapper. ability to take down modern and powerfll new engineered walls and fortifications. tiger kings were beasts of the war if used in blitzkrieg would've gone from a killing machine into a moving lightning killing machine. if you want to say that tigers suck. go loo at US and british heavy tanks first, churchills with a feeble gun would definatly not pentrate a tiger's armor. matilda. world's record in slowest tank. with short range. pershing. with a medium armor and medium range. they definetlly cant match tigers. armament is more importent then speed. otherwise if your thinnking speed's importent so we can run away like chickens once were failing. lol dont forget that after world war 2 panther tanks rappidly earnt an award for the best tank designn through world war 2. and also we both realize t-34 are great tanks. but since you realize it too. you surelley know that panzer IV followed close behinde for bieng a masterpiece too.
realize all infantry weapons you mentioned can destroy evrey single allied tank. and also. if those tanks got out of service then what did the allies play with? cars? they had only this through the war. crap and junk. the tiger's extreme range allows it to positon in one place and fire while having a nap. its open range killer meaning speed does'nt worth anything and also mostly all allied tanks are short ranged. a chaffee could be killed with a single front shot. panzerfausten would kill tanks and late advanced heavy tanks better then evrey allied AT weapon that is present. and also from where could the infantry get close to the tiger? borrowing runescape teleporting spells? no. the germans got themselfs best recon for good reasons. teach the infantry a lesson to not cross their line. and the crappy allied tanks allways have gabs. matilda. with an unbelivablly..... very unbelivably.... slow as a turtle. the term of speed and mobility seem to never get a good positon in tank war. but this one.... is extremley ultra slow. matildas are short ranged so they're supposed to combine their armor with speed to run through and try to put no more then one shell to a tiger and get killed. but this matilda is not an offensive tank. not at all. never. because its slow. while tigers had the mobility of a regular heavy tank. sorry but back then they dident have ferrari turbo engines could go 200MPH they had big engines mostly air cooled and if in luck liquid cooled and they dident have something called "accelerator" in tanks back then. so by the way. the armor of the germans is way ahead of its foriegn counterparts.
mosquito was never a versatille aircraft. it is only for quick opeartions and small time jobs. while ju 88 was for air superiority. heavy fighter. speciell operations. recon. medium bomber, light bomber, anti-ship. anti enemy bomber. ground attack. interceptor. also fast and heavily armed and armored. mosquito would go down in litle pieces even when under attack by a world war 1 fighter due to its embarassing lack of armor and speed. very easy shot.
the stuka bomber was a masterpiec through the entire war. stukas were well armored and agile (due to its gulled wings and shape) also carrying a pretty strong payload. was the most advanced bomber of the world at the time.
some foolish people may refer its weakness in battle of britian. well its not weak in it. stukas were used inapropriatlly in battle of london as a tactical bomber instead of a dive bomber. sorry to break this up to all the british.... but no offense. brits are sad losers sorry but thats the truth. they had to kill the bismarck once it was alone by sending entirley the whole fleet at it. and in dunkirk evacuation. they called it a victory against defeat. lol more like rats running away from jaws of the cat. after stealing what it owns. they started the whole world war 2 by bombing france and then kissing canada's and USA's arses for help. they had a weak army equipped with nothing more then relics from world war 1. they kissed canada's ass reall good for few anti air guns and they begged america for guns (which was the thing the british army equipped with through the war) their tanks were mostly armed with crap guns like cruisers and churchills. they think they won the battle of britian. well they've not. they failed intercept all the bombers. the tower of london got hit. the entire city bombed off. V1 rockets hitting evreywhere. they made the sewers their homes while smiling through it. prince of wales and repulse. britian propaganding its population saying they're the best in the world. ended in epic fail. they failed at killing the yamato while it was alone RIGHT infront of them. in the old ages. they could'nt get more greedy then attacking scotish highlands that they got no orgnizationn. the scots won. mostly outnumbered. at world war 1. they were elimnated both in air and land. the germans in vrey battle outnumbered. won victories by killing more british like in the somme. the british are too afraid so they brough france and their entire colonies. attempting to win against a slightly outnumbered german force. the germans got bored out o killing so many brits and frenchies they walked back to have a rest. in the napoleonic war they brough nearly all europe to their aid attemting to destroy napoleon. well. heres the truth: napoleon brough britian to its knees. winning mostl outnumbered victiories. the brits are always pompious and proud. that they always try to prove themselfs so by attacking the weaker masses. like the newly established USA where farmers made an advanced and overpowering "great and royal" force to surrender in fear. lol. sorry but you cann look at it yourselfs.
they have the "blitz bomber" a jet bomber faster the anything flying at the time. can cover the ground with a massive long range accurate ground covering earthquaking payload could cover london from its begin to its outskirts with a single payload. those bombers were near impossible to intercept. the AA guns should get their guns aimed before they look up the sky where was the bomber but now has no sight. the bliz bomber. was something the allies would kill themselfs for it. they only had B-24 to be proud with it while the blitz bomber beared its nickname and desrved it proudly. carrying radar and powerfull guns. it could kill anything passes by its front in a single shot. either tail guns aare unusually massive for the blitz bomber.
It is commonly known as Blitz ("lightning"), though this name refers only to the B-2 bomber variant, and it is not clear whether it was ever formally applied instead of being derived from the informal term Blitz-Bomber (roughly, "very fast bomber"). The alternate name Hecht ("pike") is derived from one of the units equipped with this plane, Sonderkommando Hecht. The Ar 234 (and the Messerschmitt Me 262) showed in which direction plane technique should develop
the germans got the techenology on their side. while allies were strugglng to use ther numbers instead of their poor techenology of air and land. on land. weak tanks with low armament and mostly outdated stuff.... in the air. some flying tourist planes switched to fighters were awfully beaten by the more powerfull luftwaffe's fighhters and their bombers were'nt good either. lancaster was a plane with an armor barley whistands bullets and gets ripped off litterly after taking few hits. wellingtons were worse. much weaker guns. very weak armor. very slow.
B-17 bombers were unbelivably velunarble to flak and AA. it had a very slow speed that over france the AA scored more kills then ever. the ME-109 dived on B-17 bombers. easy as pie tactic to over kill the bombers. enemy fighter escort could be easily overrun if they want to. with fighter superioriority. they could light and shoot down evrey fighter escort with a couple 190 BF FW fighters. the germans also invented "the wing" a huge large jump towards tomorrow's militry techenology. the "wing" was a jet flight stealthy enough to hide away from enemy's own fighters. fast enough to run away from them. rareley detected by radar. was a weapon could reckon an entire enemy orgnization or base or movement with pictures and high details. the germans mastered techenology inventing weapons of tomorrow in their days.
the raiden. was an all round superior to hellcats. corsairs. and easily kills enemy wildcats. either TBF and SBD bombers' heavy armors proved lacking to whiastand raiden's heavy armament. raidens were very fast fighter reaching 417 mph speed. hail raidens. mighty destroyer of the P-47 and P-40 and P-38 and wildcats and hellcats dont forget that the corsair was easy kill for most japanese fighters. due to its weak light armament and it was described as a ground support
the nakijama KI-44 "shoki" was an awesome fighter. It was less maneuverable than its predecessor, the nimble Ki-43, the Ki-44 was superior in flight tests.It was an outstanding interceptor and could match Allied types in climbs and dives, giving pilots far more flexibility in combat. Moreover, the armament (including in some versions two 40 mm cannons) was far superior to the older Ki-43. These characteristics made the fighter an effective B-29 Superfortress destroyer and one of the Japanese High Command priorities during the last year of war. But poor pilot training in the last part of the conflict often made them easy targets for Allied pilots
well. you say p-47 are good. they're not.... it was descried that p-51 WAS THE FIRST FIGHTER TO FIGHT MOST OF LUFTWAFFE'S FIGHTERS ON "EQUEL TERMS"!!!!! p-51s were used in pacific. resulted in mostly epic fails. an upgraded version of betty bombers could survive its guns. a shoki and oscar and nate fighters were easilly killing them. really dude. those fighters were ripping them off due to p-51's relativety to the poor lacking p-40 an p-38 fighters. p-51 pilots suffered from epic fails trying to intercept kamikaze betty bombers. heres a scene were one of those fails occured http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5_61SetiD8
the 190 BF focke wulf was a legend of the skies. extreme guns and high speed evrey allied pilot feared it. it was called "the butcher bird" it can carry bomb load acting both as a bomber and as a fighter trasher and a bomber lighter. either ground targets were velunarble to that. proving awesom with alot of guns and heavy cannons. spitfire's very light armor (near the armor of a zero) was holed like crazy under a 190 BFFW.
germans were totally superior in terms of airpower. we all know it. ME 109 could overpower a spitfire and could easily make a quick work out of a hurricane and this fighter served to the end of the war without bieng declared obselent. not to mention its ability to shoot B 17 like turkeys in a dive. also the ME 109 could easily out fight any british flying junk in high altitudes. spitfire's guns freeze once it goes higher then the tower of london. dont forget it is ony armed with 4 light machine guns while ME 109 was greatly praised with high agility, high speed, good guns including cannons. can intercept bombers easily with dive attacks or even going on tail of a bomber :|
dude you said zeros are unupgradeble. then how would you explain to me the later improved version that could defeat hellcats. and the later model with self sealing fuel tanks? for your information. zeros could go 355mph and with 6 or 4 7.7 MM guns its fire power would pentrate any allied armor easily wrecking it with holes. meanwhile. it would swing around avoiding fire and AA
kate bombers were legends. good payload although were knowen to be vastly superior to the US entire torpedo bomber force. devestators were very obselete and achived their reputation in the battle of midway where they all got shot down. achived great success at pearl harbor. santa cruz. coral sea. midway. they were proving exellent and remarkable when flown by good pilots instead of fresh recruits also proved awesom when conducting coordinated attacks. has signlar and radio operator instead of the weakling vindicator and the even weaker devestator. kates were the controlling superiors for the weakling allied fairey albcores and fairy swordfishes and other torpdo bombers. avengars were only 1 steb away from kates. due to the avengars better armor.
well. to say. IJN was vastly superior to US aircraft. they lacked avaitors. it was said that in 1942 zeros were beaten. no thats a mistake often made. in that time the US pilots got lucky and goed to some japanese airbases for some night robbery and theifing and stole a A6M zero fighter and took it to their research. they tested zeros knew that the only thing that would give US pilots a slim chance of survival would be to use dive tactics. carefull that zero must stay in one place all the time your doing this tactic so it rarley worked. also get watching your throttle you dont want to end up stalling (which is not a surprise at all for wildcats and warhawks) the US fighters went to an epic fail once the advanced heavily armed and armored and top speed raiden showed up. the IJN ordered the design of more good aircraft. they got lucky as always and invented super awesom fighters that if the IJN had good pilots were gonna completley turn the tide of war. the IJN brough powerfull "tony" and "shoki" fighters to outfight its foes. zeros earnt a 90-0 kill ratio over china and they made remarkable successes at pearl harbor. the Aichi D3A Val were masterpiece dive bombers. they were very fast (faster then the already exellent A6M zero and also that were vastly superior to the dauntless even if it was old design and was even more superior to the late designed sick crappy helldivers. the val bombers were famous and popular. knowen like any japanese plane for top agility. in the indian ocean raid, the japanese earned their glory where val bombers and kate bombers with the escort of only 35 zeros. the val bombers were pressed to fight enemies on their own acting like fighters instead of bombers. the agility of vals made it able to outurn and out fight P40 and P38 and wildcats. the vals sank the entire allied fleet in an epic fail for the allied convoy
those were the losses of the british fleet. on the other hand the japanese raid lost 20 aircrat. lol fail
1 carrier
2 cruisers
2 destroyers
1 Armed Merchant Cruiser (AMC)
1 corvette
1 sloop
23 merchant ships sunk
40+ aircraft destroyedok i just wanted to share a story with everyone about my uncle in Vietnam.
He was in the army and useing a mine detectore looking to clear the road for the trucks when suddenly they were amboushed he wenct to take cover when he was shot in the neck. It went in one side and out the other. Surprisingly it dident hit anything inportent and he lived. He than was in shock so he dident know he was shot. He just knew he fell on his combat knife that was in his hand. He felt it stab his leg. Then when the medic rescude him he kept yelling at the medics MY LEG MY LEG!!! and they told him that his leg wasent the problem that it was his neck. He lived to tell the story to me and im telling the story to you guys. :) :)
no offense. but this is an epic shellshock fail.... i had it once. i was carrying soe sort of a log. spikes and shreds in it. i swang it around then i dropped it. i was walking around normally untill my aunt abeer saw my right hand stuffed with shreds and needles. i dident knew theres any in it and i dident even fell any pain. my aunt said "oh my god your hand" (in arabic) "يا اللة سلطان يدك" i looked and said "what" (in arabic) "ايش؟" i check my hand and OMG i realized after 20 minutes that theres spikes and shreds in my hand. lol shellshock
the germans got the techenology on their side. while allies were strugglng to use ther numbers instead of their poor techenology of air and land. on land. weak tanks with low armament and mostly outdated stuff.... in the air. some flying tourist planes switched to fighters were awfully beaten by the more powerfull luftwaffe's fighhters and their bombers were'nt good either. lancaster was a plane with an armor barley whistands bullets and gets ripped off litterly after taking few hits. wellingtons were worse. much weaker guns. very weak armor. very slow.The allied tanks were only slightly worse in the west and just as good in the east and in the air, they dominated, the bombers exacted a roughly 1-1 toll with enemy fighters when unescorted and this included losses to flak. when escorts like the p-51 appeared, luftwaffe pilots became too scared to take to the skies ::)
B-17 bombers were unbelivably velunarble to flak and AA. it had a very slow speed that over france the AA scored more kills then ever. the ME-109 dived on B-17 bombers. easy as pie tactic to over kill the bombers. enemy fighter escort could be easily overrun if they want to. with fighter superioriority. they could light and shoot down evrey fighter escort with a couple 190 BF FW fighters. the germans also invented "the wing" a huge large jump towards tomorrow's militry techenology. the "wing" was a jet flight stealthy enough to hide away from enemy's own fighters. fast enough to run away from them. rareley detected by radar. was a weapon could reckon an entire enemy orgnization or base or movement with pictures and high details. the germans mastered techenology inventing weapons of tomorrow in their days.
ok i just wanted to share a story with everyone about my uncle in Vietnam.Very interesting story.thank goodness your uncle didn't dead. :thumbup:
He was in the army and useing a mine detectore looking to clear the road for the trucks when suddenly they were amboushed he wenct to take cover when he was shot in the neck. It went in one side and out the other. Surprisingly it dident hit anything inportent and he lived. He than was in shock so he dident know he was shot. He just knew he fell on his combat knife that was in his hand. He felt it stab his leg. Then when the medic rescude him he kept yelling at the medics MY LEG MY LEG!!! and they told him that his leg wasent the problem that it was his neck. He lived to tell the story to me and im telling the story to you guys. :) :)
ok i just wanted to share a story with everyone about my uncle in Vietnam.Very interesting story.thank goodness your uncle didn't dead. :thumbup:
He was in the army and useing a mine detectore looking to clear the road for the trucks when suddenly they were amboushed he wenct to take cover when he was shot in the neck. It went in one side and out the other. Surprisingly it dident hit anything inportent and he lived. He than was in shock so he dident know he was shot. He just knew he fell on his combat knife that was in his hand. He felt it stab his leg. Then when the medic rescude him he kept yelling at the medics MY LEG MY LEG!!! and they told him that his leg wasent the problem that it was his neck. He lived to tell the story to me and im telling the story to you guys. :) :)
Here is a my grandfather's funny story during the WWII.he was an Imperial army's tank crew and he and his company assigned to the rabaul island.His company often salvaged many stuffs from the sunken supply ships by using their tanks.so his company had plenty of equipments than other companies.
One day they discovered beautiful chinaware from salvaged stuffs,so they used the chinaware as a tableware.
and another day when they had meal with the chinaware,a man from other company who was once been in the china came and saw their table and surprised.He said"What're you doing?It's a chinese toilet."
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http://www.almlf.com/get-1-2011-almlf_com_6onromtr.jpgIt was customary for Allied forces during the Second World War to give nicknames to aircraft for them to easily identify and refer to them during communications. Most nicknames were given just for the purpose of identifying planes easier. However, some nicknames given to planes were done so in respect to the enemy aircraft’s performance. Such is the case of the nickname "Lightning" given to the WW2 German aircraft known formally as the Arado Ar 234 Blitz.http://www.almlf.com/get-1-2011-almlf_com_0l2g9flw.jpgby the way. latest FW190 can reach 550 MPH lol fail.....http://www.almlf.com/get-1-2011-almlf_com_9y79cxv4.jpg
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dude. ME262s claimed 509 kills in the historical record. an ace scored 25 mosquito kills in night and tow twin engined bombers. if the monster tank was built (something with a seldom chance of success) would've destroyed and whipped out evreything including navy. it would break thru maginot line by riding over it. airforce is no doubtly dead because an enurmous number of flak guns is mounted on it. by the way. haunebu was built. 3 model prototypes built. one crashed in tests. panzerkampfwagen series is something reached big techenology. such big giant weaponry of those guns were big time techenology stuff (pzkmpfwgn X was designed like a modern tank pretty true. was said to have designs and planning of modern tanks) ratte was a beast. to ground. a single ratte is at the worth of 5 pershings. it is one of rattes capebilities to kill 5 of them at once. though only 3 were built. one stolen by russia. others dissapeared. alot of historicans dubbed ME109 WW2 one of the best PROP interceptors. wow looks like your relationship with air speed died. dude. you'd have chance of a lifetime to kill one. historical record of tempst was 20 jet kills no more no less. you'd be the luckiest dude on earth to keep a ME262 on your gun range for five seconds. as you said. speed is big time matter. red baron of WW 1 was manfred richtfon was bestest WW1 ace with more then 80+ victories. you claim torpedos were modern made by british. whilst bieng dating back to american civil war. heinrich hertz invented radar he was a german scientist dude.It may have scored 509 kills but it sure didn't score 27 kills in one night, give me a link, or any sort of proof, link, book anything, the record number of aerial kills in 24 hours is marseilles 15-17 in the north african war.
big time cool creations of germany:Code: [Select][URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-1-2011-almlf_com_vy26mv6n.gif[/img][/URL]well i dont suppose you knew that monster tank is at this size.
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:O I have been watched you two kids are arguing about WWII weaponry interestingly,but I think it's high time to someone judge and finish this endless sequence - Warlord says nonsenses → Wyvern reply it(with praise for greatness of allies) → then again Warlord says nonsenses → Wyvern reply it(with praise for greatness of allies) -.Thanks, and I did admit that the germans invented many weapons though looking back i see I was very pro ally in my posts, I think the V-2 was the predecessor of all ICBM's and werner von braun, one of its main designers, was an important figure in the US space program.
coz I want to hear some "real" historical debates,not flaunting of knowledge about WWII weaponry.
Warlord,I personally think nice of you admire japanese army so highly,but most of stuffs you have posted are terribly wrong.if your whole story was true,nazi-germany and Imperial japanese army shook hands in the middle of rocky mountains(like in the P.K.Dick's novel"The man in the high castle") :O.
Wyvern,you have generally right recognition about WWII weaponry,but you tend to underestimate nazi-germany army.you must admit that some of today's US army's weapons are heritage of nazi-germany's.such like guided missiles,smart bombs,B2 bomber,SRBMs,IRBMs,ICBMs.also without nazi's Rocket science techonlogies,I think us couldn't send human on the moon in 1960s.
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i was afraid of a screw failure so i seperate my posts in order to avoid post failure.I lmao when I saw the picture and your description. :O
you guys hear of walking machines? like in starwars. big robot. lazers and stuff. this whole legends and stories and shows of it. it all emerges from germany:Code: [Select][URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-1-2011-almlf_com_erqzhj8f.jpg[/img][/URL]Seen here a Waffenträgerschreitpanzer (Armored Walking Weapons Carrier) ‘Läufer’ (literally, "runner"), a highly mobile self-propelled field artillery piece. It mounted a short-barreled 75mm cannon in the main body, a MG 34 ring-mount around the main hatch (used for anti-aircraft defense), and a pair of 20mm cannon under a right side "wing" plate. This particular Läufer is seen taking on fuel, ammunition, and oil in an Eastern Front forest. The Läufer favored this sort of terrain, as it tended to be too thick for most tanks and allowed for secure firing positions.
The Läufer was popular among the infantry, who liked having close-in artillery support capable of traversing almost any terrain. The Läufer was a bipedal armored combat machine, designed to accompany infantry, snipe at enemy armor, and generally serve as an all-terrain self-propelled gun.
The Läufer had a squat blocky body mounted on two short legs. The howitzer was set to the right of the pilot, with the twin 20 mm cannon mounted to a fixed wing on the far right of the vehicle. The primary access hatch was behind the howitzer, while the vehicle's engine was directly behind the driver's compartment. It was roughly 12' tall, 10' long, and 8' wide. It weighed 20 tons, had a top speed of 26 miles per hour, and a crew of three (driver, gunner, loader).
The Läufer was used on both fronts, and was especially popular in the thick forests of Russia and the broken farmlands of France. Although not especially well armored, its size and shape made the vehicle easy to hide, and the Allies often found them tucked into barns, factories, deep ditches, thick stands of trees, and the like. As the howitzer was of limited use against enemy armor, the Läufer was usually used to shell troops in the open or soft vehicle targets -- such as jeeps and trucks. The 20 mm cannon was often used to help spot targets for the howitzer, and tracer rounds were a common load. The MG 34, on the other hand, was meant for close defense and as an antiaircraft weapon.
i trust words of historicans who talked to real WW2 people not your words dude. especielly after saying jets suck. saying also the wing is paper work. dude. they had a big time mountain crowned by a big time castle insides it a big time brian freak invented or atleast designed big time inventions of wierdest and strongest and most.. hideous of masterfull mighties of creations! including the mighty krupp raumer. a small millitry jeep would pass under it.First off that walking machine is a nice joke, especially considering how well whoever made it up describes it as if it was a real vehicle.Code: [Select][URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-1-2011-almlf_com_afpesk7y.jpg[/img][/URL]
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another strange cool creations from the advanced german industryCode: [Select][URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-1-2011-almlf_com_g2ogjmi5.jpg[/img][/URL]The Kugelpanzer literally translates as "Ball Tank" and is one of the rarest and strangest armoured fighting vehicles ever built.
Only one lone example of this Reconnaissance Rollzeug (Rolling Vehicle) has been captured by the Russians and it survives today as part of the Kubinka Museum's collection of German armored vehicles. The Kugelpanzer is simply listed as Item #37 and is painted gloss gray. From fragmentary information, the drive has been removed from the vehicle and no metal samples are allowed to be taken from it. The history of the vehicle is literally unknown, as no documents were found with it and no clear markings. Only five firm facts available:
1.It was a German-made vehicle shipped to Japan
2.It was a light Reconnaissance vehicle
3.It was captured by the Soviets in 1945 (probably in Manchuria)
4.Its hull armor was only 5 mm thick
5.It was powered by a single cylinder two-stroke engine
It is hard to speculate on how this machine functioned but from observation it appears to be a one man reconnaissance tank with an armored shell and viewport. Perhaps under or behind the operator an engine was mounted and for stability a small directional wheel was located at the rear to steer the two large circular tracks at the sides.
Background
One of the more intriguing finds at the end of WW II was this enormous four-wheeled vehicle made by Krupp.
Listed as a Räumer S, it is still debated as to what exactly was this thing supposed to do. Was it a heavy prime mover, a mine clearing vehicle or somebody's nightmare turned into metal? The tall ground clearance and heavily armored cabin leads me to believe it was a mine clearer. The double-ended feature allowed it to drive back through a minefield without having to turn around. 180º in zero feet!
What I thought was weird was the highly exposed hinge mechanism under the middle of the vehicle. Surely any exploding mine would damage the hydraulics and jam the hinge pins with dirt and shrapnel. I’d like to see one of those girlie Monster Trucks try and take on this beast!
by the way. ace franz scell shoot down 10 P-51 mustangs and 6 four engined bombers using a single ME262 and shot down 61 shturmvoiks in the eastern front. ace pilot Kurt Welter (25 February 1916 – 7 March 1949) was a German Luftwaffe fighter ace and the most successful Jet Expert of World War II. A flying ace or fighter ace is a military aviator credited with shooting down five or more enemy aircraft during aerial combat. He claimed a total of 63 victories achieved in only 93 combat missions. He recorded 56 victories at night, including 33 Mosquitos, and scored more aerial victories from a jet fighter aircraft than anyone else in World War II and potentially in aviation history. On 11 March 1945 he was awarded the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross with Oak Leaves (Ritterkreuz des Eisernen Kreuzes mit Eichenlaub) for 48 aerial victories using a ME 262. in world war 1, they had manfred von richtofon. dubbed ace of aces. Originally a cavalryman, Richthofen transferred to the Air Service in 1915, becoming one of the first members of Jasta 2 in 1916. He quickly distinguished himself as a fighter pilot, and during 1917 became leader of Jasta 11 and then the larger unit Jagdgeschwader 1 (better known as the "Flying Circus"). By 1918 he was regarded as a national hero in Germany, and was very well known by the other side.
Richthofen was shot down and killed near Amiens on 21 April 1918. There has been considerable discussion and debate regarding aspects of his career, especially the circumstances of his death. He remains very possibly the most widely known fighter pilot of all time, and has been the subject of many books and films
lets settle this down:
recon: germany wins. their puma and krupp raumer. and the ball tank. and flying wing. proved to be best recon ever have been! you know britian dident knew something called "land recon" before and through world war? nor their radars sucked. flying wing flu over britian undetected. its early warning system would give a warning if it gets detected.
naval superiority: germany wins it with bestest battleships. far beyoned their precedores and their forieng counterparts. britian wins with best carriers. IJN wins with awesomest fleet.
techenology: now we all know germany has best technology. theres no need to say more here and no need to argue about their technology they have best no doubt at all.
tank power: russia wins. losifstalin 3 was impressivly a massive creative war stuff! they only conducted in the very last days of war.... their T-34 were awesom pieces of work. good job! 2nd place germany takes. one of best light tanks. panzer 3. one of the very best of medium tanks. panzer 4 and panther. and tiger tanks. their guns proved worthy annihlation of all tanks. the germans realized their effectiveness is in groups more then 3 tigers at a group. annihlated hundreds of tanks once they did this. only airstrikes are the only choice. tiger tanks proved to be one of the most psychological effecting weapons of WW2. although as any heavy tank. tigers are heavily armored. though tigers horribly one a place in one of the slowest tanks to produce. germany provided materials of exotic trades and wares from all places to build a single tiger. tiger king won a place in strongest heavy tank. with hell of armor and gun. though slow.... was slow like any heavy tank yet it was 1 mile per hour slower then regular tiger. churchills proved slower. by the way. panther tanks were awarded best of WW2 was a tank crew's dream..... the tank was a modern far advanced and superior inclined armor. the sloped armor was in PZ 3 but however. panthers won king of all medium tanks. include the T-34 to that. could outmatch hevy tanks. the power of 2 panthers are equel of a single IS 2 meaning those panthers are worthy medium tanks have some reall chances of facing with late war heavy tanks toe-to-toe. great speed for medium tank. abillity to cross very hard terriens. 3rd place wins british. though they are far weaker then germany they're the only ones avilable to ake the place. british tannks were merley nuisance. their medium tanks had barellly armor. except for churchills. churchils proved to be powerfull tanks. they've a very tich armor. though churchill has a big drawback: extrem slow speed. low quality gun, requires alot of time and costly to build few. though they also had great matildas. USA has better hvy tanks though came too late and only one showe up. meaning before WW2 USA had crap and junk in their tank arsenal. they designned their tanks once they went in the war. most of their outdated tanks served untill late midwar periods
air superiority: germans won it. although allies had awesom stuff too. but germans outranged them and also outnumbered them. germans had more cool planes while allies had fewer. IJN wins 2nd place. their lack of pilots made them lose but they made zeros for early war allied pawnage. later on tony fighters (a design could catch and outfight hellcats) also made best dive bombers with a sinking record. their dive bombers turned with allied fighters and were tremendously accurate. dauntless is the equel of val. said by evrey single historican and evrey dude who went pacific. helldivers sucked heavily.... poor stalling charcterstatic, poor speed, poor design, accurate hits are by luck, usually kills its pilots once diving from medium altitudes. even high altitudes you could die. while vals had 4 of evrey 5 hits count. also they're fast and agile. 3rd place earns it british. exellent anti-ground. great airpower. bombers. though theres some WW1 relics in their pilot ranks.... they dident have jets either but they did cool stuff earlier. 4th place USA for late yet effective fighter P-51 mustang and awesom bombers.
i replied crap? well. he says your country sux. you agree. that sux. anyways. i wasnt the one who was saying crap. i dident say the flying wing was a paper joke. i dident say guided rockets dident exist (it was called "wolf packs" due to their tremendous damage done by few ME262s on all kind of strategic bombing raids especielly at daylight wher the allies completley withdrawn an offensive after seeieng how those rockets went n their BE-17s. a single rocket is strong enough to downa B-17) they did. said red baron was joke.... he was bestest pilot of the entire world war 1 claimed 80+ victories was also knowen as "flying circus" and i dont think you red my 30 thousand words proof of luftwaffe and axis superiority. spitfire wont be called great interceptors due to a bigtime lack of armor led to them would be easily killed by any method of guns firing at it. U-boats were a single advance of techenology far outranged techenology of all allied power. it inspired nuclear submarines. not to mention the most successfull U boat claimed 51 ships sunk (306,874 tons) 3 ships damaged (20,480 tons) and depth charge isnt effective once theres more then 3 submarines due to hit and seperate and trap tactics.
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i'd like a nice explaination why you dident knew those flying wings dident exist?
i checked my mine sweeper.
your correct. its a mine sweeper though often mistake between another patrol car krupp raumer. and wargel. this is a nice mine sweeper instead of some kid carrying a big iron broomstick and checcking out the ground.
well. lets see here.... FW190 wasa design of awesomness. evreything the allies had includin thunderbolts fell to it and it was favoured by most german aces. not to mention. tremendouslly powerfull anti-ground attackerit could be equipped with lots of rockets. bombers die to rockets easy... even so. without rockets you'd kill a B-17 using ME109 using the best tactics against allied bombers... diving towards them. a single run by. will result fatal damage due to the push speed and bombers main weakness from above. a B-17 would perhaps die in single dive. though zerstorers proved to be a hungry bomber hunter. more later awesom bomber hunters showed up. by the way. that 509-100 kill ratio could turn to 1000-100 ratio if the ME262 were manned by actual fighter pilots instead of bomber pilots. by the way. you wouldnt. but it was faster then IS 2 and also titled medium tank by all belligrants and historicans. thanks :) :O i liked it too. its just a joke about a site based on "what would happen if theres superheros in world war 2?" by the way. im very intrested to know alot about this sneaky secret awesom "vrill" society thing.About armored cars, the AEC II and III have a 6lb and 75mm gun respectively and both have superior armor to a puma which has somewhere around 30mm frontal armor and less all around, its cannon its worse then the AECII and IIIs and neither the AEC nor the puma can stand up to a tank though both are wicked fast the puma and AEC both have a chance to disable a medium tank but with its better gun the AECII and III can do it frontally.
yeah but sorry were still going on this one how could we stop?
by the way i dident said raumer was recon i did straightened out my facts later on. IJN would've compleley turned the outcome of war if it had good avaitors. and not outnumbred 10-1. and thhose were reall stuff. inccludin the wing which was first tested in 1930s and conducted operations near british shore without detection. they were recon prirposed operations. germans had best battleships including bismarck. fought outnumered. like a beast rattled and overwhelmed by thousands of its enemies. AEC was nothing to puma. puma had the abillity to:
1. face off with late advanced med and light tanks and even early war hvy tanks
2. can be both used as an actuall main battle tank and recon
3. far more superior recon qualities then its foriegn counterparts.
4. very fast. well armored to engage and take hits from other tanks
5. one puma is worth 4 AEC (in battle value) but in general. 1 puma is worth 7 AEC though also in production cost.... pumas are sadly very exspensive yet are totally worth the price. AEC was like most armored recons. unable to engage tanks. its capebilitis are limited to face other armored recons.
:O You bonehead :O Warlord,would you please stop posting damn millions bytes of long sentence in english? :) English is DEFINITELY not my xxxxing home language, :) reading your xxxxing long stuffs causes me goddamn headaches. :) could you do me a favor? :) :)
Anne Frank's diary is a good starting point for reading about WWII. http://www.amazon.com/Anne-Frank-Diary-Young-Girl/dp/0553296981
I met someone recently who was part Jewish and lived in occupied France during WWII, and although their tale is less harrowing than Anne Frank's, it is extremely humbling to meet someone who has lived through that sort of fear. Millions of people have, in many wars and still do today in some shapes and forms, but I expect most of us have not. War is best confined to computer games, the real think completely sucks. :'( :'( :'( :'(
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actually there was this prototype: (http://www.almlf.com/get-2-2011-almlf_com_ncz277ow.jpg) (http://"http://www.almlf.com")True it had lots of armor but while adequate against light field guns like those on british tanks, it was unable to survive heavier artillery or aerial bombs, the one tank engagement of mk IV's versus A7V ended without a winner, and say I'm underestimating german tank, I am but those are the facts of war, not to mention that I think that the only good tanks, including the LII which didn't get into service, the whippet and the ft17 were the pointer to the future, not the british, nor french nor german monsters.
dude. i totally dont belive your underistmating german tanks yet AGAIN! well. heres a big time fact: the german
A-7V was the very best tank of the entire war. best armor. carrying 57mm/L26 [180]+ 6 MGs and takes the 2nd place in highest speed tank with 12 KMPH and an enurmous frontal armor of 30MM which no other tank possessed at the time, and entirely best side armor of 20MM and the very best roof armor of 15MM to avoid artillery shells, it was a whole masterpiece. by the way. slow. yet invelunarble. bing much higher altitude to be hit with AA and heavily defended with AA guns placed below, above. rear and front. no place is ideal for striking.
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A7Vs had their MGs placed well. on evrey side. countering infantry is easy. it would exterminate any infantry coming. also all except one MK tanks were slower then A7V and all had a way WAY weaker armor ::) not to mention most of them had their anti-infantry pointed only forward. MK tanks had quiet a poor sight. it was low. A7V had a tower where a trooper can watch from it. also its shape allows it to cross stretchy and small areas. while MK tanks are too wide.
well. i agree in the combat result... though when it comes to infantry. MK loses. it will be overrun and captured. you can stick a pistol through its small line of looking and shoot! wow. also sturmtruppen had no hard time disabling them. they had AT guns and grenades. sturmtruppen were speciliezed to annihlate entrenched enemies and also destroy armor. they were nicely equipped. aswell vetrans. and fearsom shock troops. best choice to elimnate enemy trenches while outnumbered
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[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-2-2011-almlf_com_0s57whan.jpg[/img][/URL] However, in 1896 two German Officers, Parseval and Siegsfeld, designed a new type of balloon: it was not spherical in shape but ellipsoidal, about 20 meters long, a gas volume of some 1200 m3, and with a ballonet curled at one end. This ballonet had a hole at either end to allow wind to go through it, which helped steadying the balloon. These new balloons were called Drachen, after the German word for kite - or dragon. (Due to the fact that they were cylindrical and rounded at both ends British and French troops nick-named them Sausages (Saucisse).This type of balloon was filled a very important tactical role, especially as spotters for artillery, with specially trained observers suspended in the basket under the Drachen.When the war started in 1914 in the West, the deployment of eight German Balloon Companies gave the Germans a distinct tactical advantage over the French. The French put up a solitary balloon on 25th August 1914 that was soon followed by several more in September and October 1914. When the British Expeditionary Force arrived in France in mid-August, it had no observation balloons at all. It was not until April 1915 that they got their first balloon company, and that was on loan from the French.[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-2-2011-almlf_com_cllasmw8.jpg[/img][/URL]
[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-2-2011-almlf_com_tymdc436.jpg[/img][/URL]sturm truppen raiding a trench. you can see the soldier in the middle is about to throw a grenade. you know that sturm truppen litterly means storm trooper? perhaps disguised star wars troopers. though with a much better aim :O[URL=http://www.almlf.com][IMG]http://www.almlf.com/get-2-2011-almlf_com_k40ogbrx.jpg[/img][/URL]
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the worlds first purpose built ground attack aircraft came just too late for WW1, it was the sopwith salamander, link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sopwith_Salamander
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this topic made me study and learn alot of my beloved reich.You're referring to the German third Reich? You love that?????
yes. but uh. i got warnings so change the subject. to answer your questions: i am deeply obssessed with hitler's reich. but keep going on the current talk. avoid this completley so i dont go in a serious trouble. :scared:
power of the reich: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFkM8l-4SeM -- a rare WW2 film. i expect you to enjoy it.
if you cant stop talking about me likes reich TO ALL PM ME IF YOU WANT TO TALK DONT TALK PUBLIC OK? :scared:
[img]http://surbrook.devermore.net/superpics/machines/BGPM1.jpg[/img] I remember seeing it once as a child.