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Title: I have a wish (Graphic Cards for All) for christmas!
Post by: titi on 6 December 2010, 01:00:22
I really hope many people get shiny new and fast hardware for christmas :-D.
Then they all can play Megaglest with me without lagging!  :P

So dear Santa be so kind and give them all really good graphics cards ( and beware of intel thats not what they want  ;)  )

Title: Re: I have a wish for christmas!
Post by: -Archmage- on 6 December 2010, 04:24:33
Gonna get an ATI Radeon HD 5870!!!! 8) Gabbe already beats everyone with is mini-supercomputer. :bomb:
Title: Re: I have a wish for christmas!
Post by: Zoythrus on 6 December 2010, 05:14:42
now, i cant give everyone new graphics cards and supercomputers, but i can give everyone a finished version of my mod this Christmas! YAY!
Title: Re: I have a wish for christmas!
Post by: tiger on 6 December 2010, 05:35:30
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now, i cant give everyone new graphics cards and supercomputers, but i can give everyone a finished version of my mod this Christmas! YAY!

What mod?
Title: Re: I have a wish for christmas!
Post by: Zoythrus on 6 December 2010, 06:17:35
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now, i cant give everyone new graphics cards and supercomputers, but i can give everyone a finished version of my mod this Christmas! YAY!

What mod?

you havent heard? ive been working on it for 6 months now!

well, heres a link: https://docs.megaglest.org/constellus
Title: Re: I have a wish for christmas!
Post by: Hagekura on 6 December 2010, 06:39:19
I really hope many people get shiny new and fast hardware for christmas :-D.
Then they all can play Megaglest with me without lagging!  :P

So dear Santa be so kind and give them all really good graphics cards ( and beware of intel thats not what they want  ;)  )

I wish I could join you,I think I have a good enough PC(Core2DUO E8500,4GB memory,HD4850) to play online.
but the connection distance is a my problem.If I play with european or americana players,it will cause significant lag on the game. :dead:

now, i cant give everyone new graphics cards and supercomputers, but i can give everyone a finished version of my mod this Christmas! YAY!
O RLY? well,I can't wait for your team's work finishes. 8)
Title: Re: I have a wish for christmas!
Post by: titi on 6 December 2010, 13:13:59
Hagekura you talk about lag problems? Have you tried it?

I( from europe ) usually don't have serious problems to play with people from US, Brasil or South Africa for example! Usually the real problem for lags is bad hardware on one client or server.  The only network related problem are disconnects! But these typically happen with WLAN or Mobile Phone based networks. All ping times below 500ms are somehow Ok from what we learned. And 500ms is a lot!

So you should really really try to play online and test your mod :) .
Title: Re: I have a wish for christmas!
Post by: Gabbe on 6 December 2010, 14:12:13
Shouldn`t be a problem for you hagekura, with that computer i bet you got a decent connection aswell, i play with japanese players on other games i have 192ms to them, and that is a lot too, but if Titi says 500ms is no problem I cant imagine anything will be ;)
Title: Re: I have a wish for christmas!
Post by: Hagekura on 6 December 2010, 23:15:19
Wow that's a good news for me! :thumbup:
then,surely I should try some online games. ;D thank you.
Title: Re: I have a wish for christmas!
Post by: ultifd on 7 December 2010, 23:28:13
I'll try to get one.  :D
Title: Re: I have a wish for christmas!
Post by: John.d.h on 8 December 2010, 04:26:43
Wow that's a good news for me! :thumbup:
then,surely I should try some online games. ;D thank you.
Just join us on IRC some time. :thumbup:

http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=glest (http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=glest)

Most players seem to be in Europe and the Americas, so time zones might be an issue.
Title: Re: I have a wish for christmas!
Post by: Hagekura on 8 December 2010, 11:30:52
Rgr,I'll join the IRC...some time. ;D
What time most likely to held the online game in europe or america?
Title: Re: I have a wish for christmas!
Post by: titi on 8 December 2010, 21:59:22
look in the internet menu of megaglest , it tells you when people are online on top.

But back to topic:
Some not so expensive but good graphics cards for christmas:

9600GT (http://cgi.ebay.com/MSI-nVidia-GeForce-9600GT-9600-GT-512MB-DVI-HDMI-Video-/360326265170?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item53e51e7952)
9600GT (http://cgi.ebay.com/nVidia-geForce-9600GT-Video-Card-PCI-E-VGA-DVI-HDMI-/220672091262?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item336114e47e)
9600GT (http://cgi.ebay.com/BFG-Geforce-9600GT-512mb-/190475757230?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item2c593d66ae)

or better:
Geforce 250 GTS (http://cgi.ebay.com/eVGA-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTS-250-HDMI-512-P3-1140-TR-256-bit-/300501527914?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item45f7496d6a)
Title: Re: I have a wish for christmas!
Post by: Omega on 9 December 2010, 03:48:42
If this is indeed what the topic is: Omega recommends for christmas, to buy your loved ones an ATI graphics card. Just because ATI shows you care more than Nvidia. ;)

Here's some cheap, but very good, ones:
HD 4890 (http://cgi.ebay.com/XFX-ATI-Radeon-HD-4890-HD489AZDFC-1GB-/280600869169?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item41551d7931) ($52)
HD 4850 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Sapphire-Technology-ATI-Radeon-HD-4850-11132-34-20R-/320625341656?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item4aa6c274d8) ($50)
HD 5770 (http://cgi.ebay.com/XFX-ATI-Radeon-HD-5770-HD-577X-ZNFC-GDDR5-SDRAM-PC-/320625345212?pt=Desktop_PCs&hash=item4aa6c282bc) ($95)

Not cheap, but power to burn:
HD 6850 (http://cgi.ebay.com/MSI-ATI-Radeon-HD6850-OC-1GB-DDR5-/380293297660?pt=PCC_Video_TV_Cards&hash=item588b3f35fc) ($203.50)
Title: Re: I have a wish for christmas!
Post by: Gabbe on 9 December 2010, 07:20:41
I`d reccomend nVidia if you play other games than glest that takes advantage of physX or 3d vision, but ATI if you play glest only, it has more nice AA and supports up to 6 monitors ard, atleast on 5870 and 6870. on the others 4xxx i think 3.
Title: Re: I have a wish for christmas!
Post by: titi on 9 December 2010, 20:32:15
Ati cares for customers ...... Nvidia has working drivers  8)

But beside this dumb bashing lets regard Linux:
Nvidia has good and working linux drivers. Atis proprietary drivers are simply buggy and they don't care for customers ...
The upcoming free drivers for Ati ( which I think will be much better than the original ones ) are still not really ready to use yet and not available for latest Ati hardware.

Thats why I recommend nvidia! Everyone should be able to use Linux  ;D .
Title: Re: I have a wish for christmas!
Post by: John.d.h on 9 December 2010, 20:42:02
I guess I should put that on my list of things I need to (learn how to) install. :look:
Title: Re: I have a wish for christmas!
Post by: -Archmage- on 9 December 2010, 22:01:33
ATI has always worked on Linux and Windows great, NVIDIA was living hell.
Title: Re: I have a wish for christmas!/Graphic Cards...
Post by: Gabbe on 10 December 2010, 15:51:47
nVidia got awesome features, physX, 3d vision, CUDA and more, I use ATI because they are cheap and easy, also they have multidisplay monitor technology (eyefinity). Drivers have never ever cause any problems of mine. But nVidia cards get hot as hell, who wants a fried egg while browsing?
Title: Re: I have a wish for christmas!/Graphic Cards...
Post by: -Archmage- on 10 December 2010, 19:00:13
nVidia got awesome features, physX, 3d vision, CUDA and more, I use ATI because they are cheap and easy, also they have multidisplay monitor technology (eyefinity). Drivers have never ever cause any problems of mine. But nVidia cards get hot as hell, who wants a fried egg while browsing?

Now that AMD is in control with the power of ATI, let's see if they boast any new features. ATI is raw power, Nvidia is weaker power with all kinds of features. :P
Title: Re: I have a wish for christmas!/Graphic Cards...
Post by: John.d.h on 10 December 2010, 20:24:27
So just how easy/difficult is it to install one of these things?  I'm going to be opening up my laptop case to replace my keyboard whenever I have some extra money, so I figure I might as well change some more things that are "inadequate".
Title: Re: I have a wish for christmas!/Graphic Cards...
Post by: -Archmage- on 10 December 2010, 20:38:39
Laptop graphics cards are pretty weak, but I think maybe you could get a mobility radeon... I'm not sure but that would be pretty good. I have a dedicated Radeon HD 3200 with 256mb VRAM, but you can get newer dedicated laptop cards that would definitely be better ;).
Title: Re: I have a wish for christmas!/Graphic Cards...
Post by: titi on 10 December 2010, 22:35:33
@johndh: replacing graphic cards in notebooks is usually impossible.
There are some more expensive models out there with soe kind of normed slots, but the typical notebook does not have any graphics slots .
Graphics chips are a part of the motherboard .

@Archmage: That ATi always worked on linux is simply not true! There are some (older)cards out there which work, but thats all. I think most Ati chipsets have serious problems in linux especially when it comes to 3d and gaming. 2d works for most of them.
But nearly none of the Ati linux drivers ever reached the quality of nvidias drivers yet!
Title: Re: I have a wish for christmas!/Graphic Cards...
Post by: ultifd on 18 December 2010, 02:17:51
I was going to upgrade...but then I found out my power supply is too weak...  :-X  >:( I hate HP...
Title: Re: I have a wish for christmas!/Graphic Cards...
Post by: Omega on 18 December 2010, 09:40:59
I was going to upgrade...but then I found out my power supply is too weak...  :-X  >:( I hate HP...
I <3 HP. My laptop is HP and runs flawlessly, much better than my last Toshiba...

You'd be hard suited to find a computer that comes with a power supply good enough to upgrade to more powerful stuff. But, you can always just upgrade or get another power source.

This might be helpful:
http://www.gamespot.com/features/6142716/index.html
Title: Re: I have a wish for christmas!/Graphic Cards...
Post by: ultifd on 19 December 2010, 04:46:01
Well, I searched my old comps and found out that I had two 350watts, so I'll see how that goes...
Title: Re: I have a wish for christmas!/Graphic Cards...
Post by: Gabbe on 19 December 2010, 13:26:54
you can bridge two power supplies, so you would have a 700W, but you would either need a case supporting it or you must build your custom case. You might (BUT NOT SUPPOERTED AT ALL) build a computer outside of your case, but that might result in fire and stuff.
Title: Re: I have a wish for christmas!/Graphic Cards...
Post by: -Archmage- on 20 December 2010, 05:19:26
I'm not too sure what we're doing for our PSU at the moment, but be assured that in the end I will have Grrrrrrrrrafikkkks! :P
Title: Re: I have a wish (Graphic Cards for All) for christmas!
Post by: -Archmage- on 21 December 2010, 02:50:55
Just saw the official stuff.

AMD's top single core GPU of 2010: ATI Radeon HD 5870    ($260)
AMD's top dual core GPU of 2010  : ATI Radeon HD 5970    ($470)
AMD's all-out BEST of 2010         : ATI Radeon HD 5870X2 ($1100)
AMD's top single core GPU of 2011: ATI Radeon HD 5870    ($260)
AMD's top dual core GPU of 2011  :AMD Radeon HD 6990    ($600-800 estimated)
AMD's all-out BEST of 2011         :AMD Radeon HD 6990    ($600-800 estimated)
 MainSource (http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/11/amd-gpu-roadmap-points-to-a-happy-2011-for-radeon-lovers/)

Guys if you wanna buy yourselves a graphics card for christmas talk to me, and I'll help you get a good deal. ;)
Title: Re: I have a wish (Graphic Cards for All) for christmas!
Post by: ultifd on 24 December 2010, 05:00:39
Well, I guess your wish came true...now running a 9500gt.  :thumbup:
Currently installing drivers.
EDIT: 75 FPS w/MG and 60 FPS w/GAE.  Sweet.
Title: Re: I have a wish (Graphic Cards for All) for christmas!
Post by: -Archmage- on 25 December 2010, 07:35:04
I'm having some problems getting this 5870 up, but I have many suspicions, everyone blames ATI but I'm not exactly sure what my problem is.... I'll post a new thread for anyone experienced with that card and it's problems...
Title: Re: I have a wish (Graphic Cards for All) for christmas!
Post by: ultifd on 25 December 2010, 08:07:07
Good luck...my "new" power supply is a bit noisy, but that's ok. As long as it doesn't get too noisy...