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Modding and game content creation => Maps, tilesets and scenarios => Topic started by: titi on 11 June 2013, 23:51:41

Title: Which Maps for next MG version ?
Post by: titi on 11 June 2013, 23:51:41

What do you think ? Should all of them be included ?

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[img]http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/6player.png[/img]
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/6player.mgm
[img]http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/another_riverside_a3.png[/img]
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/another_riverside_a3.mgm

[img]http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/clinch.png[/img]
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/clinch.gbm
[img]http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/forest_divide.png[/img]
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/forest_divide.mgm

[img]http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/four_free_a2.png[/img]
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/four_free_a2.gbm
[img]http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/grandezza_a2.png[/img]
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/grandezza_a2.mgm
[img]http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/hells_clam_2.png[/img]
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/hells_clam_2.mgm

[img]http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/intermezzo.png[/img]
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/intermezzo.mgm
[img]http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/kaleidoscope2.png[/img]
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/kaleidoscope2.mgm
[img]http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/loggerheads_a1.png[/img]
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/loggerheads_a1.mgm

[img]http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/no_masters.png[/img]
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/no_masters.mgm

[img]http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/one_king_fairplay.png[/img]
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/one_king_fairplay.gbm

[img]http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/orlog.png[/img]
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/orlog.gbm

[img]http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/Paraiso BR_2013.png[/img]
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/Paraiso BR_2013.mgm
[img]http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/pentagon.png[/img]
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/pentagon.mgm

[img]http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/ragor_a1.png[/img]
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/ragor_a1.mgm
[img]http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/renkontre.png[/img]
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/renkontre.mgm

[img]http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/swamp_of_hope_a1.png[/img]
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/swamp_of_hope_a1.mgm
[img]http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/teamplay.png[/img]
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/teamplay.mgm

[img]http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/tour_de_force.png[/img]
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/tour_de_force.mgm

[img]http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/unforgotten.png[/img]
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/unforgotten.mgm

Title: Re: Which Maps for next MG version ?
Post by: titi on 12 June 2013, 00:05:39

Please help me with the authors!

If you are the authors, tell me if I have the latest version of your maps!

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atze:
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/another_riverside_a3.png
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/another_riverside_a3.mgm

atze:
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/clinch.png
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/clinch.gbm

author unknown
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/forest_divide.png
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/forest_divide.mgm

atze:
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/four_free_a2.png
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/four_free_a2.gbm

atze:
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/grandezza_a2.png
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/grandezza_a2.mgm

titi:
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/hells_clam_2.png
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/hells_clam_2.mgm

atze:
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/intermezzo.png
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/intermezzo.mgm

titi:
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/kaleidoscope2.png
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/kaleidoscope2.mgm

atze:
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/loggerheads_a1.png
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/loggerheads_a1.mgm

atze:
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/no_masters.png
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/no_masters.mgm

titi:
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/one_king_fairplay.png
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/one_king_fairplay.gbm

atze:
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/orlog.png
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/orlog.gbm

carla:
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/Paraiso BR_2013.png
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/Paraiso BR_2013.mgm

cavavin:
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/pentagon.png
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/pentagon.mgm

titi:
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/ragor_a1.png
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/ragor_a1.mgm

atze:
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/renkontre.png
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/renkontre.mgm

atze:
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/swamp_of_hope_a1.png
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/swamp_of_hope_a1.mgm

titi:
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/teamplay.png
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/teamplay.mgm

atze:
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/tour_de_force.png
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/tour_de_force.mgm

atze:
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/unforgotten.png
http://titi.megaglest.org/maps/unforgotten.mgm



Title: Re: Which Maps for next MG version ?
Post by: MuwuM on 12 June 2013, 13:11:27

Grandezza has 'atze' in its 'author'-header:

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Version: 2
maxPlayers: 8
width: 128
height: 128
altFactor: 2
waterLevel: 4
title: Grandezza
author: atze
description: 2-8 Player or 2-4 vs. CPU
cliffLevel: 5
meta:
StartLocation Player 0: (46,112)
...

1vs1_2vs2_lakesway.gbm  is 'atze', too:

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Version: 2
maxPlayers: 4
width: 64
height: 64
altFactor: 3
waterLevel: 4
title: Lakesway
author: atze
description: 1vs1, 2vs2 small map
cliffLevel: 0
meta:
StartLocation Player 0: (54,45)
...

another_riverside_a3.mgm = 'atze':

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Version: 2
maxPlayers: 8
width: 128
height: 64
altFactor: 2
waterLevel: 2
title: another Riverside
author: atze
description: for 2-8 player team or for 4 player all vs. all
cliffLevel: 4
meta:
StartLocation Player 0: (16,20)
...
clinch.gbm = 'atze':

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Version: 2
maxPlayers: 4
width: 64
height: 64
altFactor: 2
waterLevel: 4
title: Clinch
author: atze
description: small map for 2vs.2
cliffLevel: 4
meta:
StartLocation Player 0: (8,43)
...
four_free_a2.gbm = 'atze'

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Version: 2
maxPlayers: 4
width: 128
height: 64
altFactor: 1
waterLevel: 4
title: fo(u)r free
author: atze
description: small-medium map for 1-4 player
cliffLevel: 4
meta: 
StartLocation Player 0: (116,11)
...


Title: Re: Which Maps for next MG version ?
Post by: tomreyn on 12 June 2013, 13:45:55

I like all of these maps Titi listed, with the exception of Paraiso BR_2013.mgm. This one looks nice, but gameplay isn't so great in my (very personal and subjective) opinion.

In case it will still be used, I recommend replacing the blank space by an underscore.

Regarding maps forest_divide.mgm and kaleidoscope2.mgm I don't actually remember how good they are.

Regarding maps cliff_way.mgm and hells_clam_2.mgm I seem o remember that they can be detrimental to performance and cause lags for players on slower hardware.

Title: Re: Which Maps for next MG version ?
Post by: titi on 12 June 2013, 13:53:38

I updated the authors according to MuwuM's posting

@tomreyn:
Hells_clam_2:  was ok from what I played ( and I played it often)
cliff_way:  yes I remember too that ist slow for some people. Maybe we better skip it as gameplay isn't that great anyway on this
kaleidoscope2 is good and i had several fun games on it ( I made it  ;) )
forest devide: is VERY good . I am very sure we should use it!

Title: Re: Which Maps for next MG version ?
Post by: atze on 12 June 2013, 19:20:11

autor map: Pentagon is calvarr https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?&topic=7752.0 (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?&topic=7752.0) (Reply #2)

1vs1_2vs2_lakesway = lakesway  (include 3.7.1)
another_riverside_a3 = flankenangriff https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?&topic=8252.0 (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?&topic=8252.0)
loggerheads_a1 = loggerheads https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?&topic=8252.0 (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?&topic=8252.0)
swamp_of_hope_a1 = swamp_of_hope https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?&topic=8252.0 (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?&topic=8252.0)

Title: Re: Which Maps for next MG version ?
Post by: titi on 12 June 2013, 20:56:55

of course we keep all the maps we have yet too!

Title: Re: Which Maps for next MG version ?
Post by: titi on 19 June 2013, 08:30:09

I dropped cliffway( performance issues),but all other maps are in the game now ( svn ).

Are ther more Maps you want to see in next version ?

Title: Re: Which Maps for next MG version ?
Post by: Pizza90 on 20 June 2013, 17:10:50

Oh cliffway was cool! Not very strategic but it was a tough map! What's the problem?AI?

Title: Re: Which Maps for next MG version ?
Post by: titi_son on 20 June 2013, 18:20:40

I have 2 Maps here .... where is the difference between lakesway and 1vs1_2vs2_lakesway ???
and why 5vs2b1 and not five_on_three. If its five_on_three i want the map.

And what about a poll? :)

I want : 1vs1_2vs2_lakesway,6player,another_riverside_a3,clinch,grandezza_a2,hells_clam_2,intermezzo,o_masters,one_king_fairplay,ragor_a1,renkontre,tour_de_force

I dont want:Paraiso BR_2013.mgm

i dont know (enough) about the rest of the maps.

and i want one map which is not listed here yet : canoe

Title: Re: Which Maps for next MG version ?
Post by: titi on 21 June 2013, 11:57:49

I removed 1vs1_2vs2_lakesway and 5vs2b1 from the above posts, as they already were in MG with another name.
And I remove cliffway too because it caused trouble on slow machines.

Hm Canoe is not in the maps? Ok I will look for it

Title: Re: Which Maps for next MG version ?
Post by: titi_son on 21 June 2013, 13:35:49

sry canoe is already in mg  :-[ ....

Title: Re: Which Maps for next MG version ?
Post by: tomreyn on 25 June 2013, 16:23:44

This "Testmap 00", which I think is by Atze, would also be good to include. I think, again, the latest revision of it would be A03 (which I do not have but he does).

Title: Re: Which Maps for next MG version ?
Post by: D.U.P.A. on 27 July 2013, 23:56:33

Will be also new scenarios? :)

Title: Re: Which Maps for next MG version ?
Post by: titi on 28 July 2013, 22:56:20

Do you have some ?   ;D

I will ask my son....
What about those?: https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=7321.0

Title: Re: Which Maps for next MG version ?
Post by: D.U.P.A. on 31 July 2013, 15:03:58

I more geared towards magitech races. Those ancient age civilizations do not appeal me much. Although there is no persian scenario, kinda problematic that is timed scenario, not allowing you to explore the race much (for those who encounter the race for the first time).

About me, I would rather do campaign scenarios, but I would like to have help with someone who would make a story and not being too generic.

Title: Re: Which Maps for next MG version ?
Post by: Trappin on 6 August 2013, 05:20:41

Quote from: titi on 12 June 2013, 13:53:38

forest divide: is VERY good . I am very sure we should use it!

I made forest_divide, it is a derivative of this map (https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=7494.0) by felipeludo2011.

http://glestmaps.wikia.com/wiki/Glest_Maps#Forest_Divide

All of my work for Glest is CC0 public domain.

Remember to visit the famously blacklisted pirate wikisite Glest Map Compendium.  Link is in my signature!

Title: Re: Which Maps for next MG version ?
Post by: tiger on 6 November 2013, 16:27:37

A lot of these maps look very similar and I don't think this many maps are needed.

Title: Re: Which Maps for next MG version ?
Post by: titi on 15 November 2013, 00:25:04

Quote from: tiger on  6 November 2013, 16:27:37

A lot of these maps look very similar and I don't think this many maps are needed.

They look similar because many of them came from him  ;)
Thanks Trappin!

Title: Re: Which Maps for next MG version ?
Post by: tiger on 15 November 2013, 02:14:05

Are we in need of a few maps? I could make some that will be different then ever seen before if you want.

Title: Re: Which Maps for next MG version ?
Post by: tomreyn on 15 November 2013, 18:32:38

We could definitely use more quality maps, also for the mod menu.
That is, without pathfinding problems (AI cannot find route from their start position to humans'; narrow paths increasing calculation overhead), with start positions which allow for team play (or not, depending on the use case), where start positions are somehow in line with player IDs (e.g. don't place the first player top left and the second player bottom right unless it's a 2 or 3 player map), where gamelpay has been tested, and where screenshot and description text are available (for the mod menu; use the MegaGlest command line option created for this purpose to create the screenshot).

Title: Re: Which Maps for next MG version ?
Post by: tiger on 15 November 2013, 23:45:14

Ok I'll make a map pack right now (about 5 maps)