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Have you won playing as magic?

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captainalan

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Poll: Have you won playing as the Magic yet?
« on: 4 April 2007, 00:27:11 »
Have you won playing as magic?  (Against only tech)
I surely haven't >_>

Won playing as magic in either of these two arrangements:

Magic vs Tech

Magic + Magic vs Tech + Tech

Winning magic vs magic or something like that doesn't count....
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« Reply #1 on: 4 April 2007, 03:39:08 »
i can say i blasted 'em out, hehe

it's not that hard to win magic+magic vs tech+tech, your computer ally can serve as kind of additional protection while you build up your army as to win it.

About magic vs tech, it's harder because you have less protection, but it's the same thing, just a bit more challengening.
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« Reply #2 on: 4 April 2007, 13:30:27 »
then, we have the same opinion, the game is heavily unbalanced
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i think its even
« Reply #3 on: 4 April 2007, 17:26:38 »
tech starts out better but later on the magic are better because tech has battle mchiene- magic has daemon giant and magic has dragons, and magic can make battlemages
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« Reply #4 on: 5 April 2007, 00:30:16 »
I've won repeatedly against Tech, the trick is to spread your forces evenly to repel their small (or large) expeditions, a Battle Mage, Summoner, Dragon, and about seven Daemons should do the trick.

Rehtul 8)
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« Reply #5 on: 25 April 2008, 03:02:26 »
magic is good... :wicked:
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« Reply #6 on: 25 April 2008, 19:21:24 »
When I first Played glest(with enough understanding to actually play) I lost quite a few times, and thought it was too hard. HOWEVER I did manage to win as magic vs tech.

Right now, though, I must admit, I'm cheating at the game, but only as experimentation. I want to see what is not powerful enough, or too powerful so I can get a grasp on the balance, so I don't make mistakes with my own mods.
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« Reply #7 on: 25 April 2008, 23:13:14 »
Quote from: "theotherhiveking"
then, we have the same opinion, the game is heavily unbalanced


Well....the game isn't unbalanced actually. Magic is for experienced users only, the ones who can micro manage easily, while tech is for real time strategy game starters (no offense). Tech is simple to control and stuff, all you mine, woodcut, make army, and attack. Magic is just as strong if not stronger, it just takes lots of micro manage, you have to micromanaged the close melee forces so they stay out of the way of your archmages and summoner's splash blasts. And you have to know the right amount of battlemages and daemons and ghost armors to make. (not going to tell, figure it out yourself, my strategy with my amount of ghost armor, battle mages and daemons might not work for you anyways.) tech takes some micromanage too once your catapults and other splash attackers are made. But not that much because...well....their splash attack isnt that wide.

OK, my main point: The game is not unbalanced, magic is just for the Real Time Strategy pros, tech is for starters, practice with tech a bit and eventually you'll be good at magic too.  :D  And for you Real Time Strategy pros out there who thinks magic is too hard, practice a bit on tech so you get used to glest mineral mining and controls.
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« Reply #8 on: 27 May 2008, 01:12:04 »
i alwais play with tech because i never win with magic
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« Reply #9 on: 27 May 2008, 01:31:48 »
I agree with Rishenchen. There have been countless topics on this board talking about how tech is stronger than magic. Tech is not stronger than magic and magic is not stronger than tech. THEY ARE BALANCED.
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« Reply #10 on: 27 May 2008, 02:34:18 »
*agrees wholeheartedly*

~Zaggy
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« Reply #11 on: 27 May 2008, 13:46:01 »
Quote from: "orion"
I agree with Rishenchen. There have been countless topics on this board talking about how tech is stronger than magic. Tech is not stronger than magic and magic is not stronger than tech. THEY ARE BALANCED.


I'm not so sure about that. You see, you might beat the computer by both sides, but the real balancing will be (/are) seen in multiplayer, because of the different tactics. That's why Martin(h)o asked us to test the balance of the multiplayer.
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« Reply #12 on: 28 May 2008, 15:59:50 »
I've won playing Magic vs 3 techs, and mixes of tech & magic. I prefer playing magic, actually. It's harder at first - repelling the first 2 or 3 attacks is horrible -  but after a while they can't possibly defend themselves from my monstruous hordes hehehe... hahaha...
HAAAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!!!

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Dasaki

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Re: i think its even
« Reply #13 on: 19 June 2008, 14:34:41 »
Quote from: "firedeathbot"
tech starts out better but later on the magic are better because tech has battle mchiene- magic has daemon giant and magic has dragons, and magic can make battlemages


you just gotta defend well enough to get that time, then you can unleash your prowess :/
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« Reply #14 on: 19 June 2008, 14:52:15 »
the core of the magic army are battle mages
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« Reply #15 on: 20 June 2008, 16:43:24 »
Not to me-too, but I've won repeatedly with Magic as well, though I do prefer the Tech faction. Yesterday I played Magic in Athena's Valley against Tech, Indians, and Bugs. The Bugs gave me the most trouble, with their Plasma Caves shooting up my Dragons. The other two factions were pushovers, since they had apparently done a good job wiping each other out. No Indians left at all, and only a token defense for the Tech.

To steer my rambling in a more useful direction, my game plan as Magic is to build up a good ground army to protect my holdings, and then work my way up to Dragons. Enough Dragons can overcome anything. The ground army varies, but yesterday I had a couple of Golems, a handful of Archmages and Battlemages, along with some Ghost Armor and then a bunch of Behemoths (Behemoths are good when you run low or out of stone, since they use mostly wood). In playing the game, regardless of the faction, I find the hard part is in the beginning. If one can hold off the enemy long enough to build up a reasonable force, the AI can't stop you.
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« Reply #16 on: 23 June 2008, 14:34:09 »
point here being isthat to face off in a battle between the two.  It is usually obvious which one will come out.  Magic takes longer to get troops out, whereas Tech doesn't.  I guess it depends on how you use them, cuz Magic's soldiers are powerful, and mostly long range, and Tech is weak and shortranged until later when you start getting cavalry.


Honestly none of my games thusfar has gone on long enough for me to play around with the REAL stuff like Magic's dragons or Techs tech...
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« Reply #17 on: 27 June 2008, 01:59:29 »
Read my "Fixed unbalanced problem" post =D
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« Reply #18 on: 27 June 2008, 09:28:13 »
I have won playing VS magic... But it's so much more fun to play with my custom team called combination. It's a beefed up version of magic and tech put together! :D
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« Reply #19 on: 27 June 2008, 12:38:45 »
Quote from: "omega"
I have won playing VS magic... But it's so much more fun to play with my custom team called combination. It's a beefed up version of magic and tech put together! :D

The question was have you won playing AS magic, not against magic.
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« Reply #20 on: 27 June 2008, 12:50:46 »
I think Tech is weak...
I started playing today and won 1 Magic+Magic vs. Tech+Tech and 1 Magic vs Magic vs Tech vs Tech (does that count?)
While I lost Tech+Tech vs. Magic+Magic and Tech vs Tech vs Magic vs Magic.
Maybe I just had a bit more luck with magic...
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« Reply #21 on: 3 July 2008, 17:29:46 »
If you want to win with magic, have like 10 people mining gold and spawn as many demons as you can while upgrading and building buildings at the same time. Once you can summon dragons, its your time to shine. Also, try to get Behemoths and DON'T waste your time on golems.
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« Reply #22 on: 3 July 2008, 20:58:20 »
You guys just don't know how to repel their giant attacks of swordsmen and archers, maybe a few guards.

It's rather simple actually. At the beginning of the game make all your initiates mine gold, then make 1 initiate and 5 daemons. Use the 1 initiate you just made to build 3 more energy sources, so you won't have to build them for a while. Build 5 more daemons. Then, build another initiate so you should have 3 mining gold, 1 mining stone (important for later buildings) and 1 mining wood. Build a summoner's guild and research ancient summoning. Build 6-8 ghost armors. Move your golem to the front of your base (where they're going to attack) and make 5 more initiates. When you have enough gold, turn those 5 initiates into battlemages. Now wait for the attack. You should have:

11 Daemons (you started out with 1 and built 10)
6-8 Ghost Armors
6 Battlemages (you started out with one and built 5)
1 Golem
1 Summoner

The attack should come soon. After the first attack, build a library, upgrade what you need, then continue making ghost armors and battlemages. When you have about 10 ghost armors and 15 battlemages you can attack their base, as long as you have something guarding your base. Bring an initiative along too. When you get outside of Tech's base, have your ghost armor go in first, then your battlemages, while your initiate builds a golem. The golem should wreak havoc on outside defenses while your army kills everything else.
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« Reply #23 on: 8 July 2008, 20:55:48 »
ok before glest 3 came out...i won all the time with tech...i would produce horsemen and i would beat ultras no prob. no i win with magic against ultras no prob. the idea is to first get 6 intiates mining gold and 1 or 2 with stone and 1 with wood, then with one summoner have a total of 8 daemons created with about 8 battlemages...all that should be done before the first wave of attacks...then between waves build back up the army...possibly build more mage_towers(depending on the map...not advised on smaller maps)...and then advance in technology...get the upgrade that advances the battlemages...and ancient summoning...then dont make anymore daemons just ghost armors...finally dely off the computer until you can make dragons...i just spammed the ultra with dragons (attack the arrow tower thingys first, then any other things that can attack the sky unit)...btw an early rush is always easy to get with magic units just stay out of the range of the tower...lol
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