Four Path Magitech

[daniel.santos]

Hey I think you should not change the attack multipliers.  Keep them the same, or else it gets too complicated.  I like how origanal Glest has only 4 damage types and only 5 armor types.  Not trying to be conservative, but I think the old ones kind of cover it all.

I disagree actually.  In fact, I'm not even happy with the way it's currently working in FPM and I intend to add a resistances framework so you can customize (and enhance with upgrades, effects, etc.) resistances towards certain damage types (lower/raise them, etc.).  More importantly however, I'm adding a mechanism so you can see a unit's current stats (effective resistances/vulnerabilities and other modifiers after all upgrades, levels & effects).  I'm also intending to add a mechanism to scale combat speed in case you would like battles to last longer than they currently do.  I think Glest has one of the fastest combat times of pretty much any RTS I've ever played (i.e., the amount of time it takes for units to kill and be killed).  That will give you more time to consider the afore mentioned items when playing.

[verarticus]

ok what post is the most recent four path magitech on? (just wondering if anyone knew cause the prospect of looking through 16 pages dose'nt seem tempting : p  sorry for my lazyness)

[wciow]

Go here: http://glest.codemonger.org/  

[verarticus]

Go here: http://glest.codemonger.org/

thanks : )

[gameboy]

i agree with hailstone
i'm sorry i meant daniel, its just that when i see the behemoth icon i think of one person.... hailstone

[daniel.santos]

i agree with hailstone

hailstone hasn't posted on this thread in a month and a half, what are you talking about!?  Clarity guys, please!

[verarticus]

This is kinda off topic but why do the range attacks act the same in Gae as in normal glest? (I put a faction I changed and the attack particles are different in them)

[wciow]

Yeah, currently ranged attack particles are not shown correctly in GAE (only the visual side though, they still cause the correct damage)

The problems is already known and listed for fixing in the future.

[daniel.santos]

Are you guys talking about the windows i686 build for 0.2.10b?  This is broken (never figured out why either)

[verarticus]

> . < Im so confused right now! It's now randomly going between the normal glest particles and the super fast (cool looking : )  ) particle effects

[verarticus]

I have an Idea for the nature path of magic (unless there is already a plan) how about a magic unit that could morph to 4 different elements with different attack effects.

fire-splash
water-slow(kinda new to Gae donw know if possible)
earth-stun
energy-continues attack or multy hit.(again secound one if possible)

just a suggestion.

[modman]

I think Ice would be nicer instead of the energy one.  It could use the freeze capability that will come into effect at one point.

[verarticus]

I think Ice would be nicer instead of the energy one. It could use the freeze capability that will come into effect at one point.

Stun would be about the same. and energy if the multi select is possible it would hit enemies but not friends in range.

[daniel.santos]

I do sort-of like that idea for the "magey" type.  However, to keep with lore, it would have to be earth, fire, water and air.  Many physicists will argue that this was the early expression for the 4 states of matter: solid, liquid, gas and plasma.  Under this philosophy, "ice" would fall under "earth" (because it's solid), but the idea is that we want to express the extremes of temperature and perhaps air can do that sufficiently?  (blast them with cold air?) Just a thought.

[verarticus]

I do sort-of like that idea for the "magey" type. However, to keep with lore, it would have to be earth, fire, water and air. Many physicists will argue that this was the early expression for the 4 states of matter: solid, liquid, gas and plasma. Under this philosophy, "ice" would fall under "earth" (because it's solid), but the idea is that we want to express the extremes of temperature and perhaps air can do that sufficiently? (blast them with cold air?) Just a thought.

Um...water...solid...maybe with several tons of cornstarch X D
but air could work for slow maybe. I was just suggesting those NATUREY things that I thought would be neat. as for plasma...boogermage anyone X D

[daniel.santos]

Water becomes solid when it gets too cold. Plasma is the 4th state of matter.  Fire, lightning, the entire sun and the state of argon in a neon light bulb (when on) are all examples of plasma. (http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_(physics))

[verarticus]

yes technicly it it solid (I'm having a lot of ice here rihgt now) but only if it gets cold but if its over 32* then its a liquid...dirt rock wood etc dont melt that easly...I still think its liquid but whatever.

[verarticus]

I just looked at the xml. files of some of the units(I was going to change magics splash and stuff mot to hit my guys cause only the lich has it now...) and man! what a scamble! I can understand some of it but is there anyway to make it more...to the side without having to "enter,space,tab,backspace,etc?"(kinda like the normal glest)

[modman]

Yes for some reason eithere .rar does that or daniel's compressor does because I looked and I had to keep pressing ENTER as well and it makes it hard to look at.

[hailstone]

I think it's to do with new line characters in Linux being different to Windows. If you open it in wordpad or notepad++ it might be ok.

[modman]

No, I always open XMLs in Notepad, even though I have Microsoft Office.  I personally like how Notepad is more basic so I can see more of the text.

But just this once I'll try Wordpad.

[verarticus]

yay wordpad works! oh btw I think the buildings (new ones) are to big not the necromancy tower or cript but the rest are huge! (seriously the graveyard takes so much to build and does so little) also why does the wall have a pig as the picture? did you forget the smile : )


Edit: whow! I just played a game with the normal file and noticed the magic sends out 6-10 initiates for attacking the enemy with a group of other guys most of the time (usually with rescourses and when there ISN'T fighting already going on) now the normal glest did it a little...but not that much!

[modman]

I think FPM isn't in the balancing stage at the moment; it is in more of the development and modeling stage.

[Omega]

Open it in Notepad++. It must have something to do with daniel's xml creator...

[modman]

I think that was previously stated:

If you open it in wordpad or notepad++ it might be ok.