Dwarf faction

[-Archmage-]

ok i have to say i agree

[doomgamer]

same here this could be a realy good mod when it is done
but the dwarves were also master smiths and prefered a sword or an axe usualy over any type of gun or bow though they were tinkerers

[-Archmage-]

i have to say

no offense but i really think you should replace cannoneer with something that fits in with dwarves, and the particle projs are kind of strange
i think dwarves like weapos that are sturdy

ideas:
rock thrower
grenadier
crossbowman
hammer/axe thrower
chain fighter(or something like that, that uses a long chain[range:6]in combat)
roller(someone who rolls things at the enemy)

a few of those may sound ridiculous, but please consider my suggestion

[MadElf]

A guy with a huge ax, and another one with a warhammer, also, mounts...

[doomgamer]

That sounds like a dwarf to me

[wciow]

Just a quick reply to say that this mod isn't finished or dead.
Thanks for all your interest and ideas though.

In fact I started working on a dwarven mounted unit today

[-Archmage-]

ok

ideas for mounted unit:
HP:1700
armor:15
armor-type:metal

melee attack(land only):

dual axes=speed:135-attack value:100-200(slashing)
large axe=speed:60-attack value:150-300(slashing)
large hammer=speed:50-attack value:200-350(impact)

ranged attack(for air only):

throw rock=speed:80-attack value:60-160(impact)
axe throw=speed:75-attack value:40-180(slashing)
javelin throw=speed:50-attack value:120-220(piercing)

hope some of these help:



on this one just imagine it without those mechanics on it- it's supposed to be a dwarf riding a drake

[MadElf]

It is not a Dwarf, it is a gnome from Wow, I want that Hairy Rhino thing I showed to you, I think it would be pretty cool!
And I also like the Goat Rider.

[-Archmage-]

so how bout it wciow?

[wciow]

The mounted unit is coming along nicely. Its based on the rhinox picture which MadElf posted. I should have a screeny in a day or two.

@Archmage:
Thanks for the inspiration, I'll base my mounted unit on those stats then tweak it if necessary. 

[-Archmage-]

anytime wciow

[MadElf]

Oh cool, I loved that Rhino thing.

here some ideas for your buildings if you want:

http://spellforce.jowood.com/?rid=1148&lang=en

[-Archmage-]

yah i think we could use some more buildings

[MadElf]

And also a magic user, could be called "geomancer" or something.

[wciow]

@MadElf:
I never heard of Spellforce before but the dwarven buildings and units look awesome. I especially like the demolisher unit.
I still don't want any magic using units in the dwarves, I think they should be more like tech and focus on machine weapons.

Finally, the rhinox...



Could do with some improvements and there are alot of parts which I should have done better.

[-Archmage-]

is a dwarf gonna ride it

[MadElf]

WOW, it looks awesome!!
I love that texture!!
I just think you should make the eye "less cute" like, make it look angry.And smooth a bit the month, it looks a bit too square-ish.
But it I love it!

Ps: I play a game called Zoo Tycoon 2, and being a zoo simulator game, there are loads of animal textures, If you want me to send you some hairy texture or something just let me know.



I can get you that if you want.

[modman]

I'm not sure you can do that madelf...
I love that Rhinox, though, wciow.  It is absolutely amazing!

[gameboy]

Wow, and you said you made crappy textures. This is just great!!!
Keep it up.

[MadElf]

@modman, I'm sure there is no problem on using it, except if we sell the product made out of it.

Also, please wciow, upload your mod on www.moddb.com, I can't download from mediafire.

[-Archmage-]

good job!
this is going to be a great unit

and is a dwarf going to ride it?

[Omega]

I think that's a very good model. BTW, will the next release be 100% balanced for magitech?

[-Archmage-]

they have to many buildings, they're short strong and slower than normal troops, so the fighting units are balanced
but they don't have a enough different buildings so they build tons of each, then they produce tons and tons of troops, you need to either have more types of buildings(recommended by me), or have it take a long time to build the warriors hall and foundry, or lower the build and repair speeds of the worker units, or you could make the HP higher AND have it take a while to build.

as i said i recommend putting more buildings in

in fact i was thinking maybe for every unit in tech you find it's equivalent in the dwarf faction, and if there is no equivalent then create one, and then modify their stats to fit with the dwarves storyline or culture

hope these ideas are useful

[modman]

they have to many buildings, they're short strong and slower than normal troops, so the fighting units are balanced
but they don't have a enough different buildings so they build tons of each, then they produce tons and tons of troops, you need to either have more types of buildings(recommended by me), or have it take a long time to build the warriors hall and foundry, or lower the build and repair speeds of the worker units, or you could make the HP higher AND have it take a while to build.

as i said i recommend putting more buildings in

in fact i was thinking maybe for every unit in tech you find it's equivalent in the dwarf faction, and if there is no equivalent then create one, and then modify their stats to fit with the dwarves storyline or culture

hope these ideas are useful

I do not like the idea of finding "dwarven equivalents" because that is just like too many other RTS games that make a bunch of factions whose only difference between units is the names...

I would again point to my suggestions for the extra building in Dwarves.  Also, maybe the Rhinox needs its own building...Anyways you certainly cannot have it being build at the Foundry!

[doomgamer]

how about a dwarven stable like thing because dwarves would ride warponies (if they were fighting above ground) into battle