mmm yes some unit can be shared coz our mods are both fantasy, and about Icegars u are right, they are not in Lotr, they are a sort of dark troups, noone know their origin and seems they are infinite, coz after each defeat they come back strong as before. Shiri-kar are similar to goblins, but they live in mountains and their body is covered of brown hairs, they have wizards too. Dark elves...well u all can imagine them i supose. If gameboy want some dwarven model for his faction i will be happy to give...ehm i need animation for dwarven crossbowman...someone have a bip file that i can use?