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[kukac2]

Several thousand. Think of the empires, kingdoms, and everything that was in the world. Were kings chosen by election? Yet, we read about a lot of them were doing good things. Dictatorship is not necessarily evil, that's just what the barbarian USAkian tribes are thinking

[wyvern]

Shut up about us being barbarians and I said myself that dictatorship doesn't have to be bad, I hate to point this out but in 1932 germany was in the state of collapse then Hitler came to power and put people to work making weapons, five years later Germany had pretty much recovered and was one of the most powerful nations in europe and definitely doing the best economically, its depessing but very very true

[kukac2]

Shut up about us being barbarians

The dramaturgy of the thing has fallen because of that smiley

[wyvern]

Shut up about us being barbarians

The dramaturgy of the thing has fallen because of that smiley

Whatever

[Gabbe]

Barbarian is a term for an uncivilized person, often used pejoratively, either in a general reference to a member of a nation or ethnos, typically a tribal society as seen by an urban civilization either viewed as inferior, or admired as a noble savage. ...

You ahve two options, inferior or a noble savage

[kukac2]

So Gabbe, how the Germanic barbarians are doing nowadays?

[wyvern]

very well actually

[Gabbe]

Fjandur plundered some treasure along the coast of england some days ago, all is fine 

[wyvern]

yes but he had to pay taxes on the stolen items because it was coming out of country

[John.d.h]

If I can't defend myself, then who is going to defend me?  If the government takes away our ability to defend ourselves, then they assume full responsibility for doing it.  If I can't own a gun, then they'd better have a policeman stationed at my front door.  Also, take a look at some of the countries that don't let regular citizens own guns, and look at their crime rates.  Some of them, like Britain, have significantly more violent crime.  In Switzerland on the other hand, gun ownership is very common, and they have very little violent crime.  The reason for this is actually pretty simple if you think about it.  Who's going to break into my house if they know I might keep a loaded shotgun in my closet?  When everyone is armed, attacking another person becomes an almost suicidal proposition.

[wyvern]

Thankk you John I agree completely, and from what I've heard nearly everyone in switzerland owns a gun, some people think its part of the reason why the germans didn't invade in ww2, because everyone was armed and technology won't help much in mountains.

[Omega]

The ability to get guns in Canada actually often depends on the type. A hunting rifle is easier to get and has less restrictions, but if you have a handgun, it has a large number of restrictions and you'd have to notify the RCMP every time you take it somewhere, even if just to go to a shooting range.

I support the right to bear arms. I agree with John.


I should mention I'm leaving for a bit, and will be back in about a week. Don't cause too much trouble!

[wyvern]

Don't worry we won't


People, Omegas gone finally we can spam unhindered

[Gabbe]

But, john, in the US, a lot of people can`t make a living = forcing them to steal, then i wouldn`t reccomend everyone having guns with them..


muahahahahhahah, bye bye omega, i shall not spam (only just  a little tiny huge massive bit)

[ultifd]

I should mention I'm leaving for a bit, and will be back in about a week. Don't cause too much trouble!

Alright. I also hope there won't be too much trouble too.  

[wyvern]

why worry we have moderators for a reason (to keep Gabbe from spamming)

[John.d.h]

The ability to get guns in Canada actually often depends on the type. A hunting rifle is easier to get and has less restrictions, but if you have a handgun, it has a large number of restrictions and you'd have to notify the RCMP every time you take it somewhere, even if just to go to a shooting range.

Our laws differ depending on the type of gun as well, and they vary depending on the state.  Florida is fairly free when it comes to guns, and Texas is famous for being trigger-happy.  California is the opposite (which should be no surprise to anyone who knows American politics), with ridiculous gun control laws that are apparently arbitrary.  For example, they have a so-called "assault weapon" ban that keeps you from owning a rifle that has a pistol grip, collapsible stock, or bayonet lugs.  Obviously, none of these things have anything to do whatsoever with a gun's lethality, but they're often found on military-style rifles.

I should mention I'm leaving for a bit, and will be back in about a week. Don't cause too much trouble!

Wahahahaha!

But, john, in the US, a lot of people can`t make a living = forcing them to steal, then i wouldn`t reccomend everyone having guns with them..

That's exactly why we do need guns.  How desperate do you need to be before getting one of these put through your head seems like a worthwhile risk to get your drug money?



On an unrelated note, has anybody tried GNOME 3 yet?  I've seen some previews for it and I just didn't get the point.  It seemed... weird, and not really helpful.

[wyvern]

Weapons are good and you need special papers to get an automatic gun in Delaware the laws are OK about guns, I think that technically if you had the money and papers for an automatic gun you could drive around in an armored car(I wish I could)
I haven't tried Gnome 3 yet

[-Archmage-]

About making guns illegal: That would send crime rates up! NEWSFLASH: CRIMINALS DON'T FOLLOW THE LAW, WHY DO YOU THINK WE CALL THEM CRIMINALS? What's to stop criminals from committing all sorts of crimes, they know that no one can stop them if no one is armed!

Dictatorship vs Democracy: Dictatorship only works if you have a good leader, if you have a bad one, you're screwed. Democracy works very well until some idiot(like Obama) get's elected and breaks the rules.

Military vs other forms of peace keeping: No bully would attack a little kid when a teacher is around, but would if the kid didn't have a teacher or other adult around him, the same applies to the military and the country. The enemy won't attack if we have a powerful military, but if we don't have a military we're totally vulnerable and our enemy can come over and beat up, kills us, torture us, whatever they want.

If I can't defend myself, then who is going to defend me?  If the government takes away our ability to defend ourselves, then they assume full responsibility for doing it.  If I can't own a gun, then they'd better have a policeman stationed at my front door.  Also, take a look at some of the countries that don't let regular citizens own guns, and look at their crime rates.  Some of them, like Britain, have significantly more violent crime.  In Switzerland on the other hand, gun ownership is very common, and they have very little violent crime.  The reason for this is actually pretty simple if you think about it.  Who's going to break into my house if they know I might keep a loaded shotgun in my closet?  When everyone is armed, attacking another person becomes an almost suicidal proposition.

I'm in full agreement with you.

The ability to get guns in Canada actually often depends on the type. A hunting rifle is easier to get and has less restrictions, but if you have a handgun, it has a large number of restrictions and you'd have to notify the RCMP every time you take it somewhere, even if just to go to a shooting range.

I support the right to bear arms. I agree with John.


I should mention I'm leaving for a bit, and will be back in about a week. Don't cause too much trouble!

 

Don't worry there won't be any trouble.
*Omega leaves the room*
Heh......heh...heh...hahahahahahaa! *Snort*

[kukac2]

No bully would attack a little kid when a teacher is around, but would if the kid didn't have a teacher or other adult around him

Still, the kid didn't have any guns to defend himself

[Gabbe]

Crime rates in Norway are very low. The increasing use of weapons in robberies is a worrying trend. Norway is a popular destination for asylum seekers; the Norwegian government is working to tackle people smuggling.

3 murders each 100.000 person
15 rapes each 100.000
4677 thefts each 100.000

Carrying weapons IS NOT USUAL among the population. Maybe it is usefull in the US...

Let me add that people are also buying weapons more now than before, and that is why

The increasing use of weapons in robberies is a worrying trend.

Seriously for me the US need to settle things up and start to spedn more money on making the poor population richer and put them in work, I guess they have tons of people without a job that could do a lot...

[wyvern]

I think that it works cuz even if you yourself have a gun you don't know if the chap your about to try to rob is armed with a semi automatic pistol, he might gut you if you try, so I'd say its a good detterent, plus no offense but norways tiny in population compared to the US and doesn't have as many illegals and other unwanted people

[Gabbe]

See, it is 150 murders among the 5 million population, you need to have less than 6000 murders to have a better system... you are 200 millions right?

[wyvern]

But you don't have illegals, drug smugglers and other unwanted people coming over your border, do you??

[Gabbe]

Norway is a popular destination for asylum seekers; the Norwegian government is working to tackle people smuggling.