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« Reply #475 on: 29 October 2009, 01:53:46 »
I wish that I had been exposed to more of foreign culture by my parents...  The good thing is that most of us understand that he was brought up believing that most likely.  I mean, I was brought up to believe that people should fight for their rights, but I am just now beginning to understand how these world religions and laws can really indoctrinate citizens from an elitist's point of view.  For example, people in North Korea are taught to despise westerners, especially americans.  This is used as a rallying point that can, in all honesty, make a very strong nation.  The problem with those kinds of places is that they seem to be EXTREMELY allied with their ideals, either because they have been raised that way, they fear speaking against it (ahem.. china with greendam, Iran with their policies, North Korea (oh, I forgot, the average citizen is too poor for internet or media devices), and others), or a combination of indoctrination/peer pressure and fear.  I know many americans don't understand how countries like S.A. work, but at least we are allowed to get our own opinion on it.  That is more than what some can say.    I am really not proud of America and our whole foreign policy mess, including our bad reputation with europe, (cough, cough, bush, cough), but I know how much some people seem to take our liberties for granted.

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« Reply #476 on: 30 October 2009, 16:08:28 »
choice is based on what u see
the women in Saudi Arabia dont feel oppressed of what they wear. In fact, they feel that the clothes in  countries like the US women are ridiculous [no offense(guys im not makin any enemyship here i apologize for my harshness)]
in hot days , there are many different types of bhurkas that dont make u feel warm. AND when u see a women (or i shud say 'girl') u feel like sayin 'nice clothes' its not a very nice thing to say here. In fact u feel like lookin down as if to respect them. Well one's choices and opinions are up to himself and i cant change urs nor can u change mine. Plus its only told to cover ur body except the face and hands up to the wrists. So there isnt anything 'oppressive'.
well these are CORRECT statistics............................

USA has one of the largest crime rates in the world...
on the other hand, Saudi Arabia has one the lowest.
If u put the islamic law in US, there may be protests, all those as people are not used to it but what im asking is will the crime rate go up or be same or go down?

I think some (or a little more than 'some') dont understand my argument on the 1st post correctly and so i cant say anything. so .. I want to close this after everyone says what he wants to say after this post

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« Reply #477 on: 30 October 2009, 16:25:07 »
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USA has one of the largest crime rates in the world...
on the other hand, Saudi Arabia has one the lowest.

1- USA is a large country.
2- We have a large population.
So overall it's natural that the USA would have a higher crime rate.

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If u put the islamic law in US, there may be protests, all those as people are not used to it but what im asking is will the crime rate go up or be same or go down?
I'm pretty sure that wouldn't pass in any state of America, and even if it did the people would feel oppressed, and group together to fight back, the crime rate could easily go skyhigh! Although I don't know very much at all about Islamic law so.........yah just from what I hear about Islamic law, it sounds awfully grim compared to Americas laws.

You know you should take a trip to America some time.
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« Reply #478 on: 30 October 2009, 18:09:16 »
America I am afraid is going down, deep down the tubes.

Canada on the other hand is not near as as far down the tubes, not only that they are slowly climbing out, but America is free falling.

The laws aren't that different so come to Canada instead.

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« Reply #479 on: 30 October 2009, 18:39:35 »
Well before Obama was elected the country was sliding slowly.......
But now, yes it's free-falling.
America will eventually recover, and hopefully so will the rest of the world.......
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« Reply #480 on: 30 October 2009, 20:23:31 »
America will eventually recover.
It said on slashdot that America can never pay off its debt.
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« Reply #481 on: 30 October 2009, 20:25:36 »
Oh I forgot about that, otherwise than that America will recover...........well actually no it's going to freefall forever..........
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« Reply #482 on: 30 October 2009, 20:34:29 »
Yes but there is hope One of my spys heard Obama and his officers talking about the new world order and U.S.C.A.
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« Reply #483 on: 30 October 2009, 20:48:24 »
Well, suffice it to say that no country or empire has been the leading world power uninterrupted for more than a century since probably the Roman Empire.  The Dutch had their century, the Spanish had theirs, the British, etc.  Not to be arrogant or anything, but the USA has been the most powerful nation in the world for the past century or so.  The US has become stagnant, our economy is bankrupt, and our education system and scientific advances are not keeping up with countries like China and India, which are making forward leaps in biotechnology and computer science all the time.  Sad to say it, but our century is over. :-\

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« Reply #484 on: 30 October 2009, 21:03:53 »
We still are the world power, at least militarily, but probably not for much longer.
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« Reply #485 on: 30 October 2009, 23:55:16 »
If u put the islamic law in US, there may be protests, all those as people are not used to it but what im asking is will the crime rate go up or be same or go down?

Unfortunately for anyone in favor of that we have something called the First Amendment of the Bill of Rights.

Maybe the crime rate would go down.  There's plenty of ways to make crime rates go down.  I'm Libertarian, but if there were no laws, it would be a 0% crime rate.

What I would be more interested in is the quality of life.  We could have Hammurabi laws here in the US, but is that reasonable, and does it make our lives better?  Face it, Islamic law is old, and standards change.  There are no longer as serious of repercussions from small accidents.  The world is not up for grabs anymore because it is made up of sovereign nations.

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The nightmare must end. Sharia oppresses the citizens of Islamic countries. Islam must reform, but the legal hierarchy in Islamic nations will not do this because the judges and legal scholars understand the cost: many passages in the Quran and the hadith must be rejected, and this they cannot do. After all, the Quran came down directly from Allah through Gabriel, so says traditional theology. So how can Islam reform? But reform it must. It can start by rewriting classical fiqh (interpretations of law). Again, though, that would mean leaving behind the Quran and Muhammad's example. How can the legal hierarchy in Islamic nations do this...It is true that the Enlightenment teaches tolerance, but it also teaches critical thinking and reasoning. Sharia cannot stand up under scrutiny. It is intolerant and excessive, and Aristotle in his Nicomachean Ethics teaches the West that excess is never just.

I try my best to stand up to fundamentalists in a civil manner through debate and rhetoric.  The purist form of debate is that without bias and absent of dogma, and so a conclusion can be reached after presenting and considering all evidence, factual or philosophical.

I would recommend going to http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/index.php, which is a website for fair debate of all religion, including Islam.  Although, I have to warn you, Islam does not fare even as well as Christianity there, because it has no internal pressures to make up answers to the tough questions.  You'll understand if you go there.

One of my spys heard Obama and his officers talking about the new world order and U.S.C.A.

Yes, sigh, in direct violation of the Logan Act, Obama attends Bilderberg meetings.  But that would not bring me hope.  You can look into all of the NWO stuff yourself, but I'll point you to FEMA coffins.
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« Reply #486 on: 31 October 2009, 01:31:19 »
1- USA is a large country.
2- We have a large population.
So overall it's natural that the USA would have a higher crime rate.
I think what he means is that there are more acts of lawbreaking commited in a ratio to citizens.  If you take a look at this, which may be have been outdated since 2008-09, not even mentioning the stricter laws that may exist in those countries whereas in america the same thing might be a misdemeanor or warning, but America is not in the top ten.  But arch, what you might be saying (I really don't know, I am trying to keep an open mind in order to have the most intellectual discussion), is that america has a complicated system of law enforcement because we are a country of 300 million people.  From this map that I have yet to ratify as being one of good source, canada is either a more criminal country or it has strict laws.  I would LOVE to look into that.  Jeez, isn't that so interesting?

Well, suffice it to say that no country or empire has been the leading world power uninterrupted for more than a century since probably the Roman Empire.  The Dutch had their century, the Spanish had theirs, the British, etc.  Not to be arrogant or anything, but the USA has been the most powerful nation in the world for the past century or so.  The US has become stagnant, our economy is bankrupt, and our education system and scientific advances are not keeping up with countries like China and India, which are making forward leaps in biotechnology and computer science all the time.  Sad to say it, but our century is over. :-\
We really were not too dominant until after WWII when the competition had been ravaged of population, crops and structures, (i.e. Britain, France, Germany and USSR were competitor but they got some-shall we say minor- damage, which put them down low for a couple decades), and we were booming in industry here in the good old US of A.  And we really only got 65 years of it, because around the turn of the century the whole problem of jobs going to India and China came around with a vengeance even the seemingly 'unstoppable' american economy couldn't handle, and then plop, the housing bubble goes bye bye and with it the entire western world's economy.  I anticipate it being about even, and then fate might put India and China battling it out for economic power.  This may or may not happen, but it is well recognized that this will start to happen very soon if america doesn't overhaul our education system which is falling behind globally.  Ponder this:  India has more honors kids than america has kids.  This is sad, but americans can only blame themselves.

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« Reply #487 on: 31 October 2009, 03:21:50 »
One of main reasons I wanted to be homeschooled was to get away from mean teachers, and them forcing me to do this ridiculous stuff, and also not caring whether it was a waste of time of not, I also found that they were pretty stupid and very very arrogant which drove me up the wall sometimes.
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« Reply #488 on: 31 October 2009, 04:11:40 »
First of all what dose FEMA coffins have to do with the new world order and U.S.C.A.?
Allso I am home schooled have been all my life, so I don't know much about mean teachers.  :)
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« Reply #489 on: 31 October 2009, 04:48:52 »
Moving on to the issue of: Global Warming

I do not believe in the Global Warming lie.
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« Reply #490 on: 31 October 2009, 05:31:43 »
You gonna elaborate on that, or is that all?

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« Reply #491 on: 31 October 2009, 05:41:46 »
Its to bad a boy like him believes in Global Warming they are brain washing you.
Any way they saw that Global Warming was not happening so the name is changed to climate change, and the climate will always differ.
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« Reply #492 on: 31 October 2009, 05:50:05 »
The upcoming Ice Age will elaborate plenty.......

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Its to bad a boy like him believes in Global Warming they are brain washing you.
Any way they saw that Global Warming was not happening so the name is changed to climate change, and the climate will always differ.

Are you talking to me? You can't be.......
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« Reply #493 on: 31 October 2009, 07:14:54 »
Are you talking to me? You can't be.......
Why I can't.
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« Reply #494 on: 31 October 2009, 14:57:21 »
Why would you be saying that:
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Any way they saw that Global Warming was not happening so the name is changed to climate change, and the climate will always differ.
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« Reply #495 on: 31 October 2009, 15:00:35 »
Guillotines in America

This is why there are FEMA coffins.

Moving on to the issue of: Global Warming

I do not believe in the Global Warming lie.
Usually when initiating an intellectual discussion, you present your argument for your reasoning for your beliefs.

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« Reply #496 on: 31 October 2009, 23:52:05 »
Global warming and the hockey stick graph. How the peer review process was subverted.

http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2008/8/11/caspar-and-the-jesus-paper.html

If weather measuring instrumentation is improperly sited or hasn't been calibrated in months nor maintained properly then the data is compromised. Amateur weather hobbyists and some professional have conducted a photographic survey cataloging USHCN networks in the US. 1003 of 1221 or 82% of the stations have been examined. read up on this - its very interesting.

http://www.surfacestations.org/  

surface station.org blog and comment site. Hardcore mathematics but sometimes its very lighthearted as well.

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« Reply #497 on: 1 November 2009, 21:46:32 »
Canada has more honor kids than USA and India put together. Of course, our education system is easier... But we actually PAY the teachers well. From what I hear, some other countries don't pay the teachers very well. In fact, on that subject, I want to be a teacher. The pay is good (~55K), the hours are perfect, summers and holidays are free, it leaves plenty of room for personalization (you can generally choose how you want to teach the courses, and here in canada, teachers are usually just given a broad list of topics that need to be taught. Others can be added in, and how they are taught varies per teacher), as well as it would give you an opportunity to make sure your kids can't hide anything from you!  ;)

And now to the global warming topic, I fully believe there is NO SUCH THING! :D Here in Saskatchewan, we have global COLDING. The last two years have been the coldest in a while. Our summer wasn't very hot, and it snowed early. It's freezing today, and my balls froze off at yesterday's quarter final football game (too bad, we lost. We just made it to the provincials, and bam!). I believe that the earth is always changing, sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worst. They say that the earth once had an ice age, and before that the earth was once burning hot. According to science, the earth was even one large landmass billions of years ago. If science is right, perhaps global warming is just naturally changing, just like the earth. If science is wrong, then there's no evidence of true global warming. Maybe it's regional specific, in which case it's not global warming, but regional warming!  ;D

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« Reply #498 on: 1 November 2009, 23:19:36 »
The way I see it, it doesn't even matter if global warming, global climate change, global climate destabilization, or global climate clusterf**k (whatever you want to call it) is actually going on or not.  Any way you look at it, reducing reliance of fossil fuels is a worthwhile goal.

  • Fossil fuels are terribly inefficient; the majority of the energy produced in a gasoline reaction is wasted.
  • They produce smog, air pollution, and acid rain, contributing to environmental and health damage.
  • There is only a limited supply of fossil fuels, and with the Earth's population constantly growing, there's no way of knowing how long they'll last.
  • The countries that produce petroleum in great quantities (OPEC) are a downright extortionate conglomeration that borders on monopoly.
  • Some of the biggest producers are way too friendly with terrorist organizations.
  • Reducing fuel consumption (obviously) reduces expenses, and research into alternative fuels creates jobs.

Oh, and just for the record, it was 85 degrees here today (29 Celsius) and it's the beginning of November. :P
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« Reply #499 on: 2 November 2009, 00:34:28 »
Well, we have an ice age coming in the near future.
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