Ancient Egypt Faction ( alpha2 released )

[MadElf]

I think the texture is a bit messed up but the rest seems great!

[titi]

yes I'm not a real painter  , I will try to improve it a bit again, but I hope you will not see it in glest, because things are much smaller there.

[John.d.h]

I don't know my ass from my elbows when it comes to texture painting, but maybe there is some way to smooth it out and make it more even?  Somebody more familiar with GIMP than I am would probably know how to do this and it could make that model look a lot better.

It looks like you're making an attack animation.  Surely a slave wouldn't be very motivated to protect his cruel owners when the enemies show up to torch the place, right?

[titi]

This is very interisting (and has pictures )
http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/defense.htm

I will also make a spearfighter from this slave unit.

And for the slaves texture, lets see how it looks in glest. I think you will not see those details, the current blender screenshot is really huge compared to a glest units ingame size . The attack animation is there because I used the persian worker as a base unit. And this one only has an attack animation which is still in there ....

[MadElf]

Do you want me to texture it? Im really good at phtoshop, my Arts Teacher calls me PhotoShop WIzard, lol.

[titi]

Yes you can try it, but there are soon will be other models to texture ;-).
If you want to help me with them too I would be happy , because texturing is one of those things that takes lots of time.

Please don't forget the teamcolor(transparency)!
http://www.titusgames.de/egypt/worker/worker_attacking.blend
http://www.titusgames.de/egypt/worker/texture_worker.xcf
http://www.titusgames.de/egypt/worker/texture_worker.tga

The only thing I'm a little bit said about is the fact that you use the commercial photoshop and I will not work with this. So I cannot use your photoshopfiles if I want to change anything. I'm using the free gimp, and I don't have photoshop ( and it doesn't work in linux of course ).
But The result is nothing but a texture(tga), so go for it .

... by the way, any news for "scrubs" ?

[MadElf]

Ok, I received your email, and I have news for Scrub, soon I will post the updates there.

Edit: here is the piramid model, is not in Glest yet though.



And if you want a Crocodile:

[titi]

I think we should make our own models. It's better to avoid copyright problems.....
And a pyramid is really easy to create, I will do one in about 3 hours when I'm at home ( I'm currently at work )

update:
I have got your texture now, wow good work!
Is it from the glest modders survival kit or did you really made it?

some things:

- We need it a bit darker because glest always lights up textures and due to a lot of sunshine in egypt the ( often white ) slaves had very brown/red skin. Should I make it, or do you make it?
- Is there teamcolor in it?
- is the hair area big enough? I modified the layout a bit there. Otherwise we will see teamcolor in the hair ...

[deathrun]

this sounds alot like aoms egypt faction

[weedkiller]

hi fellows xD
if you like a temple... well its quite basic but maybe it gets more details by texture

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[titi]

  Who is that ? Welcome back!
Where can we download the model? I think it should be redesigned a bit to allow units passing through it.

Madelf is the texturing your job too?

[weedkiller]

hi titi 
has been a while and i admit i never finished persians, but you did well
temple
ok, heres the file, i tried stretching it so if anyone whould have a go on textures?
i can try myself but i personally think good texturing is more difficult than lowpolymodelling...

what about the units? we still need the horse-car-archer?
as i read agyptian warriors didnt were helmets or amors, so we can just copy some workers again...

ps: i thnk i will make uv's soon, that is still part of modelling

[MadElf]

I think if we want to add more team color, we should put some band on their forehead or something...
I have no other ideas, or maybe some detail on the "skirt".
And about the models, well, the Piramid you are right, they are really easy to make, but I think there is no prolem on using other games models, the creator (Blue Fang) made very clear that we can use it on our own risk.

[titi]

@weedkiller: yes shure, we still need an horse-car-archer,

Something like this:
http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/defense.jpg

This is not a long chariot so this is hopefully working as a glest unit.
For the archer lets use the slave as a base human unit.
This will give us a bit similar look for the humans in this faction.
It already has a skeleton and it's rigged, but currently it has a little rigging-bug. I will upload a fixed version tomorrow or later today.

[titi]

sorry I couldn't resist .....
( I hope its ok weedkiller  )
here is the temple, modified / UV unwrapped / demo textured and a g3d:
http://www.titusgames.de/egypt/temple/temple.zip ( Madelf, now its your job to make a better texture... )



What do you think of the colored slaves? Or does this pink skirt looks too gay? The red team looks worse than the others.
With this we would have very clear teamcolors for the slaves.
And please only judge the color yet its still the old worker in this screenshot. The new slave model will have longer hair and is changed in other ways too, this should be only a color demo.

[MadElf]

Lol, I think the band on their forehead or something else would look better, it looks a bit....
Homosexual...

[-Archmage-]

 
i'll have a go at editing the slave texture
i'm pretty familiar with GIMP and Photofilter

[MadElf]

The textur is fine (I think) the problem is the team color... Where....?

[titi]

wait a bit, I will try the new model which is much thinner than the current worker. I think the belt will be much more visible then.
Slaves are not typically strong and fat, but the current breefy worker model.

@MadElf: By the way, do you have everything to texture the temple now?

[mictes]

people, why do you not simply make it look a little bit like a slave.
You could than set the teamcolor onto the chains.

[MadElf]

NEWS: Yesterday I watched a thing on Discovery Channel about the 10 wonders of Egypt, and when they talked about the Oiramids, they said that the Ancient Egypstians didn't have slaves, but workers.
They were 2 types of worker, the unskilled worker and the skilled worker.
So I think the whole slave thing doesnt make sense (I'm shocked too, I always thought they had slaves).

@Titi
What do you mean?
I can texture it, but I need the Uv Map, or the original texture, also a g3d model would be good, so I can see the texture on the model  . And try the oher worker model.

[titi]

well, your current job is the temple 
I'm the one who is currently too slow with the slave.
But it will have the exactly same uv layout as the worker( only the hair will differ a bit).

Yes they had workers, but later they had their slaves. These where Israelite people and
they had white skin. These where the typical egypt slaves and the egypts where very known for their slavery. So I think its really not too wrong!

[MadElf]

Ok titi, but could you send me the texture and the model?
And you are probably right about slaves, and it is just a game anyways.

[-Archmage-]

oh there were definitely slaves!
Don't you know about moses?

NO offense meant

i think you should watch "The Ten Commandments"
if you're going to help with this mod i think you might want to know about what it's based on
here are some link's:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egypt --long
http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/slaves.htm --long
http://www.reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt//timelines/topics/slavery.htm --long
http://www.historyforkids.org/learn/egypt/people/slaves.htm --short

[MadElf]

I'm not stupid, i was doing slavery in History lesson 3 weeks ago, I just got confused, they didn't have slaves before, way before.