GLADE Team Project: Dark Magic

[Omega]

I'm a bit behind on this board, but I just gotta say it:

HS! That wyvern is amazing!

[JC]

I made a mod like magic its called lemon magic 
Because it has models from sourbraton.

[John.d.h]

Okay, I'll try to get started on my modifications of the Divination Crystal tonight or some time within the next couple days, so it should be done by the end of the week (but you all know how bad I am with keeping my deadlines).

Here are the models sheol temple (which isn't greatly done , but rough enough =P) and the shadow walker not textured or animated http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=fc3e352c0e1cc1cfd5a101cf914073b4ecd43e0d3c327f9e

Those are in *.max format.  Would you mind uploading them in *.obj so we Blender-using cheapskates can use them?

I made a mod like magic its called lemon magic 
Because it has models from sourbraton.

Err... I'm pretty sure the models from Sauerbraten are proprietary (the engine is freely licensed, but the content isn't), so that might be slightly illegal...

[Loronal]

Uhhmm where would I find a new download link or are you still working on putting everything together ???

[titi]

see the first post (click the headline )

[titi]

Some bugs mostly in the current xml setup:
- oblivian_portal_cube.tga , Cube should be written with a lower case c or it doesn't work in linux.
- The acolytes doesn't show their special animation for "going to harvest wood" and "go to mining" I made them and they should be there.
- The dark sourcery doesn't have a good attack( without the flying bat projectiles )
- the Dark Elder shows no charging animation

[Mark]

Yes, well, every time I save a texture it adds either 'Cube' or 'Cylinder'  to the end of it.  I can tell this is because I started with that shape, but still.  I have no idea why it does that or how I can fix it so it doesn't add it.  And it doesn't even show up in the place I am naming it when I name it, so I can't help but include it.

[John.d.h]

Yes, well, every time I save a texture it adds either 'Cube' or 'Cylinder'  to the end of it.  I can tell this is because I started with that shape, but still.  I have no idea why it does that or how I can fix it so it doesn't add it.  And it doesn't even show up in the place I am naming it when I name it, so I can't help but include it.

You can rename the tga and then change the texture in Blender to that new file.

[Mark]

No, I mean that every time I save the texture it adds a word to the end of the name of the texture.

[John.d.h]

I don't think there's a way to prevent that.  AFAIK you just have to rename it after it's created.

[Mark]

What! No way to correct it?  Can someone PLEASE upload me their version so I can get a good copy?  I assume that is the only option.

I don't think there's a way to prevent that.  AFAIK you just have to rename it after it's created.

Well, *Heh* if I rename it, it gives me an error about not finding the texture.  That is obviously because the texture is under a different name.  And, the only way to attack this bug (Or maybe it is my error somewhere) is to stop it from adding words to the end of it.

[John.d.h]

I messed around a little bit with the Divination Crystal that Laimis made.  There's no texture on anything but the skulls (and they're straight from Magitech, only slightly modified), so just ignore that.  Tell me what you think of the model and animations so I know if I'm on the right track.

Idle animation gif
Working animation gif

Edit: Changed the links so they lead to the pages rather than just the images themselves. /Edit

Well, *Heh* if I rename it, it gives me an error about not finding the texture.  That is obviously because the texture is under a different name.  And, the only way to attack this bug (Or maybe it is my error somewhere) is to stop it from adding words to the end of it.

Ah, you missed the second part.  You have to go back into Blender and re-assign the texture to the new name after you rename it.

[Mark]

I can't explain this good enough, can I?  EVERY time I save it it adds a word to the end of the texture it is looking for, plus the texture I assign.  I have done what you say many times and it just doesn't work!

[John.d.h]

*sigh* What we've got here is a failure to communicate.

You know what, if none of that works, than just change the names of your objects to something with lowercase.  The extra word will still be there, but it won't screw up Linux compatibility.

[Mark]

I am sorry, but the extra word doesn't even show up when I save the texture. 

I have put a complete halt on all this modeling, until I can figure this out.  It might just be my blender version.

[modman]

I messed around a little bit with the Divination Crystal that Laimis made.  There's no texture on anything but the skulls (and they're straight from Magitech, only slightly modified), so just ignore that.  Tell me what you think of the model and animations so I know if I'm on the right track.

Idle animation gif
Working animation gif

They look great to me!  Sorry I haven't been on at all lately :'(, because of school, but I will be on during the weekends.

The Divination Crystal is looking great, John.  I especially like the working animation.  It's really cool.  Is that too many frames (too big file size) though?  Of course I don't know, but, maybe something you would consider.

I think something we want to consider is that in the original Magitech, in Magic especially, many of the buildings have no animations at all.  Actually, none of them do, I think.  So it was made up for in the texturing, which was, of course, fantastic.  So I want Glade to remember that the textures can make or break a model, I think even more than an animation can.  Please note I am not suggesting we cut any animations we have now, but just make our textures supreme.

[John.d.h]

It's really cool.  Is that too many frames (too big file size) though?  Of course I don't know, but, maybe something you would consider.

It's five frames and 77kb.  The idle animation is three frames, but I might reduce it to two.

I think something we want to consider is that in the original Magitech, in Magic especially, many of the buildings have no animations at all.  Actually, none of them do, I think.

Actually, the Library, Tower of Souls, and Wicker Behemoth don't, but all the rest do. 
The Energy Source's liquid (whatever the heck it is) sloshes around, and the others have waving flags.

So it was made up for in the texturing, which was, of course, fantastic.  So I want Glade to remember that the textures can make or break a model, I think even more than an animation can.  Please note I am not suggesting we cut any animations we have now, but just make our textures supreme.

Agreed.  I'm just doing what I'm capable of.  I consider myself to be a pretty decent animator, but my texturing skills aren't that great, so I'd rather leave that to someone with more skill in that area.

[Loronal]

What! No way to correct it?  Can someone PLEASE upload me their version so I can get a good copy?  I assume that is the only option.

I don't think there's a way to prevent that.  AFAIK you just have to rename it after it's created.

Well, *Heh* if I rename it, it gives me an error about not finding the texture.  That is obviously because the texture is under a different name.  And, the only way to attack this bug (Or maybe it is my error somewhere) is to stop it from adding words to the end of it.

Oh  yah are you exporting uv map from blender. because the same thing happened to me theres a thing that says to include thee name of the object after that

[Loronal]

yah its a option that says "object" and when you put your mouse over it it says "put object name in filename"

[Mark]

Oh, that is an easy fix.  I hope it will save that as some kind of preference so I don't have to do every time I save a texture.  Anything else I should fix before I redo all my models?

[Fluffy203]

here is my media fire http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=fc3e352c0e1cc1cfd5a101cf914073b4ecd43e0d3c327f9e the .obj's should be in there and if you don't want the shadow walker to have hands you can delete them 

[John.d.h]

here is my media fire http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=fc3e352c0e1cc1cfd5a101cf914073b4ecd43e0d3c327f9e the .obj's should be in there and if you don't want the shadow walker to have hands you can delete them 

Thanks dude!  Holy crap, 2200 polygons on the Temple?  This is gonna take a while. lol

[Fluffy203]

lmao yea its a stantionary building i just took gears and its a rough copy never got to the fine details

[Mark]

I couldn't open some of the models, so yeah.  I will try again.

[John.d.h]

I'm fixing up the Sheol Temple right now.