Africa faction [UPDATED!]

[tiger]

here

Dart thrower



Elephant

[wyvern]

the dart thrower's decent but the elephant looks too starved and thin and the guy riding the elephant looks too fat and big to ride it.

[ultifd]

Thanks.

the dart thrower's decent but the elephant looks too starved and thin and the guy riding the elephant looks too fat and big to ride it.

Perhaps for the guy being fat, maybe it is because of the perspective/angle,but still a little bit fat I guess.

[tiger]

Its just the angle

The elephant is almost the same size as Titi's Is A small bit smaller.

The guy Is The exact Same as The other men in this faction.

[Gabbe]

Call it "War Elephant" not "Elephant". otherwise it makes no sense, what does the elephant give? Food?

[tiger]

It is called "Elephant Rider" Not just plain Elephant.

So what do you Guys think of Africa now?

[ultifd]

We will have to test it to see But, I guess those units are nice.

[Hagekura]

To reduce the elephant's starving impression,I recommend you add some warm colors(such as brown,red,orange) to the texture of the elephant.

[Gabbe]

or tile them more out, and removing some of the black lines.

You see with low res textures, you cant add the detail that a high res has. like this one. Rather you can, but then you must tile them. And the eye is way too big.

[Omega]

"War Elephant" is both more accurate and sounds better than "Elephant Rider".

[Zoythrus]

"War Elephant" is both more accurate and sounds better than "Elephant Rider".

Omega has a point.

hey Tiger, i would like to thank you. why? thank you for listening to us, and trying to make this mod better.

[John.d.h]

"War Elephant" is both more accurate and sounds better than "Elephant Rider".

I dunno... that kind of supposes that these elephants were bred/trained specifically for war, as opposed to maybe just kinda rushed into the battle because they had them standing around.  Either way, I guess.

[Gabbe]

Maybe a upgrade i think..

[ElimiNator]

"War Elephant" is both more accurate and sounds better than "Elephant Rider".

I dunno... that kind of supposes that these elephants were bred/trained specifically for war, as opposed to maybe just kinda rushed into the battle because they had them standing around.  Either way, I guess.

I think he might make it so the elephant can harvest wood. If so it wouldn't be only for war...

[Zoythrus]

"War Elephant" is both more accurate and sounds better than "Elephant Rider".

I dunno... that kind of supposes that these elephants were bred/trained specifically for war, as opposed to maybe just kinda rushed into the battle because they had them standing around.  Either way, I guess.

I think he might make it so the elephant can harvest wood. If so it wouldn't be only for war...

not a bad idea!

[Omega]

"War Elephant" is both more accurate and sounds better than "Elephant Rider".

I dunno... that kind of supposes that these elephants were bred/trained specifically for war, as opposed to maybe just kinda rushed into the battle because they had them standing around.  Either way, I guess.

I think he might make it so the elephant can harvest wood. If so it wouldn't be only for war...

I don't see how that works? And for the reference, using elephants to...er.... tear up trees is ...um... impractical.

[John.d.h]

Indians use elephants for logging all the time, but I don't think they just rip the trees out of the ground or anything like that.  Of course, that's an entirely different culture and a different species of elephant, but there's some kind of precedent, at least.

[ElimiNator]

They lift logs with there trunks and carry them on there tusks.

[Omega]

I just don't like the idea of a military unit that harvests. Mixing worker and combat abilities tend to confuse the AI. As well, you'd expect an elephant to be very powerful (as they are in the megapack), so giving them harvesting abilities borders on overpowered. Nextly, it doesn't make sense. The elephant might be able to help transport logs, but that doesn't do nothing for actually chopping the logs down.

Of course, that's an entirely different culture and a different species of elephant

^ and this.

Just my two bits:

"War Elephant" is both more accurate and sounds better than "Elephant Rider".

I dunno... that kind of supposes that these elephants were bred/trained specifically for war, as opposed to maybe just kinda rushed into the battle because they had them standing around.  Either way, I guess.

I think he might make it so the elephant can harvest wood. If so it wouldn't be only for war...

not a bad idea!

[tiger]

I just don't like the idea of a military unit that harvests. Mixing worker and combat abilities tend to confuse the AI. As well

Magic?
Persian?

There AI is good.

The elephant can collect logs.
To make it not unfair I changed it from

250 gold
200 wood

To

250 gold
350 wood

[Gabbe]

I just don't like the idea of a military unit that harvests. Mixing worker and combat abilities tend to confuse the AI. As well

Magic?
Persian?

There AI is good.

The elephant can collect logs.
To make it not unfair I changed it from

250 gold
200 wood

To

250 gold
350 wood

why not just have "war elephant"?

I know it might seem like more work to you, but then again the better quality

Here is what i would have used for reference for a "african war elephant":

[ultifd]

I agree, don't have the elephant collect stuff...if not for the reasons already stated, for balance...

[Omega]

I just don't like the idea of a military unit that harvests. Mixing worker and combat abilities tend to confuse the AI. As well

Magic?

I would have thought magic would be the perfect example... The AI uses the initiates terribly wrong and this has always been an issue.

I like the concept Gabbe showed.

[tiger]

why not just have "war elephant"?

Because It can Harvest.
Don't call It unbalanced till you play a game with it in megapack.

[Zoythrus]

i like the idea of the elephant harvesting. he's my proposed balance: the Persian War Elephant should be physically stronger and more durable, but the African one can harvest