Author Topic: Africa faction [UPDATED!] (Read 34440 times)

ultifd · « **Reply #125 on:** 30 January 2011, 04:59:18 »

Quote from: tiger on 30 January 2011, 04:10:09

Don't call It unbalanced till you play a game with it in megapack.

OK, but I doubt that it would be balanced. If it is, cool.

Gabbe · « **Reply #126 on:** 30 January 2011, 05:09:13 »

Quote from: tiger on 30 January 2011, 04:10:09

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why not just have "war elephant"?

Because It can Harvest.
Don't call It unbalanced till you play a game with it in megapack.

"Why is it elephant rider instead of war elephant?"

"Idk, but now i want it to harvest"

"african elephants doesn`t harvest.."

"Why not just call it war elephant?"

"Because it can harvest!"

wyvern · « **Reply #127 on:** 30 January 2011, 05:10:21 »

Working and fighting work awful with the AI, please don't let the elephant harvest, I have seen so often that magics battle capable initiates get slaughtered and my AI ally can't help me any more.

ElimiNator · « **Reply #128 on:** 31 January 2011, 01:57:57 »

Quote from: Wyvern on 30 January 2011, 05:10:21

Working and fighting work awful with the AI, please don't let the elephant harvest, I have seen so often that magics battle capable initiates get slaughtered and my AI ally can't help me any more.

Yes, but the elephants are mainly meant for war, harvesting is secondary (They still have normal workers).

tiger · « **Reply #129 on:** 31 January 2011, 02:13:11 »

Ill make the attack weaker.
And It can harvest (That will make it different from megapack)

Gabbe · « **Reply #130 on:** 31 January 2011, 07:27:53 »

I give up..

Zoythrus · « **Reply #131 on:** 31 January 2011, 15:53:10 »

Quote from: tiger on 31 January 2011, 02:13:11

Ill make the attack weaker.
And It can harvest (That will make it different from megapack)

i think that he wants to make it a harvester that can attack, not an attacker that can harvest.

ElimiNator · « **Reply #132 on:** 31 January 2011, 18:00:19 »

Quote from: Zoythrus on 31 January 2011, 15:53:10

Quote from: tiger on 31 January 2011, 02:13:11
Ill make the attack weaker.
And It can harvest (That will make it different from megapack)

i think that he wants to make it a harvester that can attack, not an attacker that can harvest.

No, its a attacker that can haul logs.

Mr War · « **Reply #133 on:** 31 January 2011, 18:04:34 »

Why not two sorts of elephant? I like the idea of using animals to harvest

I thought African elephants weren't domesticated anyway

John.d.h · « **Reply #134 on:** 31 January 2011, 18:21:27 »

Quote from: Mr War on 31 January 2011, 18:04:34

I thought African elephants weren't domesticated anyway

They're not. Of course, Hannibal et al. used war elephants, but AFAIK those were all imported from Asia.

Zoythrus · « **Reply #135 on:** 1 February 2011, 00:30:39 »

Quote from: Zoythrus on 30 January 2011, 04:18:23

i like the idea of the elephant harvesting. he's my proposed balance: the Persian War Elephant should be physically stronger and more durable, but the African one can harvest

this is how we should resolve this. the Persian ones have a ranged attack, the African one doesnt.....

tiger · « **Reply #136 on:** 1 February 2011, 02:11:56 »

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this is how we should resolve this. the Persian ones have a ranged attack, the African one doesnt.....

Yes it dose The Guy throws Knives.

BTW whats Wrong with having a Attacker that harvests....?

Omega · « **Reply #137 on:** 3 February 2011, 01:42:34 »

Quote from: tiger on 1 February 2011, 02:11:56

BTW whats Wrong with having a Attacker that harvests....?

It simply doesn't make sense, as numerous people have pointed out. The african faction should be, well, based on the africans.

tiger · « **Reply #138 on:** 3 February 2011, 06:43:49 »

But the Africans did use Elephants For getting wood.

Gabbe · « **Reply #139 on:** 3 February 2011, 07:09:19 »

No it didn`t?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_elephant#Conservation

Poaching significantly reduced the population of Loxodonta in certain regions during the 20th century. In the ten years preceding an international ban in the trade in ivory in 1990 the African elephant population was more than halved from 1.3 million to around 600,000.[14][15] An example of how the ivory trade causes poaching pressure is in the eastern region of Chadâ€”elephant herds where as recently as 1970 there was an estimated population of 400,000; however, by 2006 the number had dwindled to about 10,000. The African elephant nominally has governmental protection, but poaching for the ivory trade can devastate populations.[16]

Human encroachment into or adjacent to natural areas where bush elephants occur has led to recent research into methods of safely driving groups of elephants away from humans, including the discovery that playback of the recorded sounds of angry honey bees is remarkably effective at prompting elephants to flee an area.[17]

Zoythrus · « **Reply #140 on:** 3 February 2011, 16:02:24 »

i like it for the balance though.....maybe if they were Indian Elephants (Because we all know that Eastern Indians used elephants for nearly everything)

Omega · « **Reply #141 on:** 4 February 2011, 03:57:13 »

There's no need for it to affect the balance though. Military units shouldn't harvest though (or the other way around) because then the AI uses them wrong, which then leads to a negative balance.

By simply keeping the attack strength in check, there's no reason the balance should be affected.

tiger · « **Reply #142 on:** 4 February 2011, 06:05:35 »

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There's no need for it to affect the balance though. Military units shouldn't harvest though (or the other way around) because then the AI uses them wrong, which then leads to a negative balance.

Fine I'll remove the harvesting Skill.

Other then that anything Else Need changing?

ultifd · « **Reply #143 on:** 4 February 2011, 06:37:29 »

Release something first, and then we'll see.

Zoythrus · « **Reply #144 on:** 4 February 2011, 07:26:19 »

Quote from: tiger on 4 February 2011, 06:05:35

Other then that anything Else Need changing?

the Persian and the African elephants need to be different. it's why i supported the whole harvesting thing.....

(when i mean "different," i mean you cant just change their stats by a tad....)

Gabbe · « **Reply #145 on:** 4 February 2011, 08:37:45 »

I don`t think the persians would use their war elephants for wood gathering.

tiger · « **Reply #146 on:** 6 February 2011, 03:19:15 »

Ok I'll release soon.

ultifd · « **Reply #147 on:** 27 February 2011, 08:04:26 »

OK how about now?

tiger · « **Reply #148 on:** 15 March 2011, 23:09:43 »

Sounds good Here!

http://soft-haus.com/blog/wp-content/plugins/download-monitor/download.php?id=33

Zoythrus · « **Reply #149 on:** 15 March 2011, 23:13:37 »

what's the new stuff you've added?

News:

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