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Amazons
« on: 19 February 2010, 22:37:50 »
Anyone ever heard of the amazon tribe that consisted purely by women? since my previous faction is literally screwed, im going to make a new one!

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Okay, that was probably bad, but it`s a start. I plan to make a map, and this prologue will run when you start it. I don`t know if it is even achieveable with the current glest, but im going to try anyways XD
And as you can see, im going to put them face to face with the romans, since it doesn`t exist a greek faction, yet.

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Re: ζAmazons)
« Reply #1 on: 19 February 2010, 22:49:47 »
Reminds me of a scenario...  :)
Are you going to try to make this yourself, or is this just an idea?  ???
Pet peeve of mine: people posting ideas for a mod expecting other people to make it for them, with no ability or intention to do any work themselves.

If [name] plans on learning to model, texture, and animate, then great.  I wish the best of luck and I'll be glad to point him/her toward some helpful modding tutorials.  If not, then not so great.
Cause I'm thinking about same thing...

Otherwise, great idea.  :)

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Re: ζAmazons)
« Reply #2 on: 19 February 2010, 22:51:42 »
It popped in my mind, so yeah, i guess it is an idea ;)

And yeah, i did plan to do it myself, but i suck in everything except modeling/animatin soo, sure make a mod  ;D
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« Reply #3 on: 19 February 2010, 23:52:22 »
Well, make the XMLs, and then the models and then start working on animation and learn to texture better! :D
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« Reply #4 on: 19 February 2010, 23:58:05 »
Yeah, modeling is going to be your most important skill, so as long as you've got that covered, the rest just comes with practice.  XML is really easy to learn (at least good enough for our purposes), but texturing takes quite a bit of practice to get good with it.

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« Reply #5 on: 20 February 2010, 18:34:50 »
im making "some" prgress with the units now, for the buildings, dang, i need more, ideas will be apreciated

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« Reply #6 on: 20 February 2010, 23:55:19 »
Buildings are going to be hard... I can't find any...  :-\

Anyways have you tried titi's scenario? It's kinda related...  :P
https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=4105.0
Yeah it is for the megapack/megaglest/ it's included...


Maybe you could make something based of these two...?  :P

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Re: ζAmazons)
« Reply #7 on: 21 February 2010, 08:06:42 »
I`ll look into it, also, i think im going to try to push the limits of gleset a bit...

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« Reply #8 on: 21 February 2010, 08:18:47 »
I see, what do you mean by pushing Glest's limits?  :P

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« Reply #9 on: 21 February 2010, 09:44:45 »
larger mods, more polygons, perhaps longer animations, but i will make it so it can run on a nvidia 7000m, so don`t worry if u got a better card...

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Re: λmαzōnς
« Reply #10 on: 22 February 2010, 02:54:17 »
Amazons don't really have buildings I think.

Why is the title of this topic in such weird letters?

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« Reply #11 on: 22 February 2010, 03:03:05 »
Maybe for title effects?  ::)

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Re: λmαzōnς
« Reply #12 on: 22 February 2010, 05:18:33 »
    Quote from: wikipedia
    Their occupation was hunting and war; their arms the bow, spear, axe, a half shield, nearly in the shape of a crescent, called pelta, and in early art a helmet, the model before the Greek mind having apparently been the goddess Athena. In later art they approach the model of Artemis, wearing a thin dress, girt high for speed; while on the later painted vases their dress is often peculiarly Persian – that is, close-fitting trousers and a high cap called the kidaris. They were usually on horseback but sometimes on foot.

    Just some ideas:

    • Manservant - This enslaved fellow mines gold and stone for his Amazon rulers, as well as constructs their buildings, but they don't trust him with an axe.
    • Sagaris - This Amazon is skilled with the axe, making her an effective lumber harvester and a passable soldier.  Her heavy weapon and light physique give her a stronger attack but weaker health than Tech's Swordman.
    • Huntress - Fighting without armor makes her fast and her advanced training lets her do more damage with her bow than Tech's Archer, but she has low health and armor.
    • Bow Mistress - Promoted from the Huntress, she shoots magical arrows from her bow for high Energy-type damage.
    • Centauress - Her fast speed and ranged javelin attacks make this half-horse, half-human peltast roughly equivalent to Magic's Drake Rider.
    • Priestess - She has a weak ranged attack and can heal your troops.
    • Hand of Athena - Promoted from the Priestess, she has a devastating ranged attack and super healing rate.
    • Wilderness Camp - This building recruits woodland-themed units (Sagaris, Huntress, and Centauress) and stores wood.

    As you can see, there's a common theme of high damage, fast movement, low health, weak armor.  There would probably have to be at least one tough unit like the Guard or Ghost Armor to balance things out.

    If the Amazons were from the Ukraine or Asia Minor, then I guess you could go for an Eastern European, Turkish, or Byzantine look for the buildings, but beyond that I'm a bit stumped.

    Other things to consider: Amazons are often associated with Athena, so something to do with owls wouldn't be entirely out of place.  They're strongly associated with hunting and are thought by some to be based on real-life nomadic tribes, so they shouldn't be big on farming.
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    Re: λmαzōnς
    « Reply #13 on: 22 February 2010, 12:48:29 »
    I would go for a little less fantasy, but I agree with John. :)
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    Re: λmαzōnς
    « Reply #14 on: 23 February 2010, 00:02:12 »
    I would go for a little less fantasy,
    Why, if this faction is going to oppose your fantasy roman faction?  ::)  :P

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    Re: λmαzōnς
    « Reply #15 on: 23 February 2010, 01:01:39 »
    Well, as far as I'm concerned it will not be facing this faction, I am still planning to make that historically based Romans faction! ;)
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    Re: λmαzōnς
    « Reply #16 on: 23 February 2010, 01:13:59 »
    REALY! Every one said (Including me!) it was a bad idea, and that they like fantasy Romans fine.

    BTW: wen / if you make historically based Romans you can't use any of the fantasy Roman's models.
    Sory but I don't want them to look so much the same.
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    Re: λmαzōnς
    « Reply #17 on: 23 February 2010, 01:32:34 »
    Well, Fantasy Romans is not a very good mod, if fact there have only been a few good mods, I'm so tired of continuous fantasy, real life is what's so interesting!

    Besides the new Romans faction will have far superior graphics to the Fantasy Romans, and it will have some fantasy aspects to it.......
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    Re: λmαzōnς
    « Reply #18 on: 23 February 2010, 02:54:49 »
    OK.... ya...
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    Re: λmαzōnς
    « Reply #19 on: 23 February 2010, 03:13:33 »
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    Well, Fantasy Romans is not a very good mod
    Compared to others it is a good mod...  :P

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    I'm so tired of continuous fantasy, real life is what's so  interesting!
    Well...yeah...Fantasy and real life is interesting...  ::)

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    Besides the new Romans faction will have far superior graphics to the Fantasy Romans, and it will have some fantasy aspects to it.......
    Do you even have time? I thought you were working on your "secret" mod...?  ::)

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    « Reply #20 on: 23 February 2010, 06:59:56 »
    Ok, edited, thanks john for the ideas of the units, however, te buildings are my greatestconcern, any ideas would beappreciated, ok now i have to go to school.

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    Re: λmαzōnς
    « Reply #21 on: 24 February 2010, 04:19:56 »
    Other things to consider: Amazons are often associated with Athena, so something to do with owls wouldn't be entirely out of place.  They're strongly associated with hunting and are thought by some to be based on real-life nomadic tribes, so they shouldn't be big on farming.
    Reminds me of the woodsmen faction...  ::)
    And yes, it's hard to find information about buildings...  :(

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    « Reply #22 on: 16 March 2010, 22:33:17 »
    Okay, i need both elim and archmage confirm that this is versing fantasy romans, or arch, do you wan`t it to verse HistoricalRomans?

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    Re: λmαzōnς
    « Reply #23 on: 16 March 2010, 22:44:22 »
    I call it Romans, and I will release a update soon.  :)
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    Re: λmαzōnς
    « Reply #24 on: 16 March 2010, 23:01:37 »
    Hey, you need to check out with me first Elim.
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