Religous Debates

[Zoythrus]

i do care about the math, but this is just outside my field of study (i like chemistry, not math). and i cannont prove that God exists, He has designed the world with hints so that we would find Him. Don't worry, He'll prove Himself soon...

[Gabbe]

i don`t worry, I actually feel sorry for you wasting your time praying for some god...

i do care about the math

Thtas nice, then i know you want to find the truth, and the truth matters a hell of a lot more than a belief right?

but this is just outside my field of study

Thats okay, but wait decide your side until i have got this one through.

(i like chemistry, not math)

Perhaps you can still help me, can you find the exact amount of time a cell duplicates and the exact time it dies off?

and i cannont prove that God exists

Of course not, he is the result of the lack of knowledge our ancestors had, they filles everything with god, and then somehow it has survived until today, it won`t much longer though, evolution and science is a growing community, at the cost of the church and creationist community.

He has designed the world with hints so that we would find Him

You don`t know if he exist, yet you know he has designed the world with hints for us?

[wyvern]

Typical of creationists, the only explanation you have for how God was created is that he always existed, yeah right, that is not a good argument, I say that while someone may have created us, they in turn had to evolve or be created , nothing is forever

[Gabbe]

God is something called "omnipotent", you should look it up, and god cannot be seen, nor can he be touched, and he cannot be smelled, basically he cannot be anything. hes invisible to if the rest werent enough. and still he exist?

Look up the definition of existance.

I think we can make clear that god doesn`t exist, and without god no christianity. With god accepted, christians can keep up with their lies as much as they want, as they can argue with the apparently most stupidest argument ever "god did it" of course he did! Science hasn`t just prooved many things god was supposed to be doing liek a million times...

With god out of the picture, nothing in christianity matters, because god is the core, and god can`t be prooved, nor can he be prooved, still he exist, again, look up the word existance and look at the definition. So according to science, something that cannot be prooven doesn`t exist even though it cannot be disprooved, lookup the definition of Disproval, disprooving something only matters if something is already prooved.

Since god isn`t already prooved, there is no need to disproove, your theory is unsubstantial to the limits. Lookup the definition of unsubstantial is your unsure what that means. By that said, creation also fails if your christian (no arch, this is not the case for you), so no creation for christians, actually, no religion for you christians, and this also applies for any other religion, and no, atheism is actually not a religion (yes, im saying what the "top ten creationist arguments" video says, saying that it is would be like saying that not collecting stamps is a hobby, and not smoking is a habit, you get what i ment.

When gods proof is brought up it will mean that science must disproove it, yet, no actual evidence or proof for god has been brought up, so there will be no need to disproove his/her/its existance. If you want to talk about the bible, here we go, the bible cannot be seen on as evidence for god, because if that would be the case, actually that is the case, God says the bible is correct, and the bible says that god exist, this goes on infinity and this is not a argument.

God
Bible

What more is there?

Ah yes, Jesus!

Jesus spoke the word of god, he had a personal experience, that is great...

(call the hospital, get this guy or gal to a psychologist, hes gone mad!)

( i changed the topic back into religious as there already is a creationist and evolution topic)

[wyvern]

It would appear evolution is winning at least logically they are

[Gabbe]

I have been smakec in the face by a christian dude that CREATION and CHRISTIANITY is logic science and that stuff...

(zoythrus)

[-Archmage-]

The idiotic Evolutionists don't realize that without a God there would be no Big Bang, no physics, and they are claiming that his universe his just here and he doesn't exist.

It's indisputable that a creator exists, whether he's the Christian God or not.

[wyvern]

Nothing just appears or exists forever you creationist, Where did God come from , answer now

[Gabbe]

I have a theory, the extra terrestrial lifeform Ted accidentaly blew up his apartment while making beer, and thats how the universe come to begin, you have your unsubstantial theories, we have ours. nah just joking, but it is true, your theory is without proof and cannot be disprooven, therefore it is not science, because science is theories that is sutained by proof, why is there intelligence behind the BB? And i thought you said you would call it a createor, not god, look up the definition of god, then look up the definition of a creator.
It isn`t science that a god exist, because there is no science, therefore it is undisputeable that your theory isn`t science, so you can no longer refer to science as the creator has to be prooven first. If your a railien and belive in that we were seeded here by aliens, you are a atheist, but were did those aliens come from? and so on. Where does physics relate to a creator? and i also said that this didn`t aply to you arch as i was talking about the christian creator and this was rather a response to Zoythrus about his christianity. i think also you mispelled is, but i won`t get into that, however, we aren`t claiming that the universe does just exist, or thats not what scientists claim, they claim that the universe have been formed by BigBang, science doesn`t proove what was before that, but science will actually admit that than just come up with some random theory about a creator. And you also mispelled this. Lookup theory, a theory is already sustained by logic, i agree with you that a creator is possible, but it is yet to evidence to show off. And since there is yet no proof, it cannot be disprooved, as i said before, lookup proof or evidence. Your theory isn`t supported by anything but itself, god and the bible explains eachother, sot he bible and god is not evidence for any.

[Omega]

45% belive in evolution
40% belive in creation
15% belive nothing, have not heard of any, or do not care

45 + 40 + 15 = 110%???

What was the part again about the math???

[Gabbe]

  45
+4085
  85
+15100
That was just easy

[-Archmage-]

Gabbe, it is now perfectly clear that you know pretty much nothing about the Creationist viewpoint.

Do you speak English?


Geez Omega, where did you learn your arithmetic?!

[Gabbe]

Okay, point me toa creationist source that posses science.

(maybe we should continue this in C vs E topic)

[-Archmage-]

I already have.

1-The Case for a Creator(movie).
2-The Greatest Hoax on Earth(book).

Both in English, maybe you can get a translation, but I don't know.

[Gabbe]

 i suppose i could buy the book, but i`ll see the movie first, its not coming yet  :'( maybe i can download it, since i already bought it, they can`t sue me for any illegal actions...

I just felt to laugh at omega and say: Ha ha, epic fail kid!

[ElimiNator]

Did you all see these?

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIeLRD1L9yY&feature=PlayList&p=B89BE864450B3E66&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=18[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tr2CP86XVuw&feature=PlayList&p=B89BE864450B3E66&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=19[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwuvYtBNZsk&feature=PlayList&p=B89BE864450B3E66&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=20[/youtube]

[@kukac@]

Pedig nincs hatalmasabb nálad
Semmi ami utadba állhat
Te vagy a legprimitívebb isten
És te vagy a legfejlettebb állat,
[...]
Ha nem is tudod, de te vagy az ász
Önmagadnak is felette állsz

Rough translation by me:

There isn't anyone more powerful than you
There is nothing, that can stand against you
You are the most primitive god
And you are the most advanced animal
[...]
Even if you know, you are the ace
You are standing even above yourself.

What is this thing I'm talking about?

[Gabbe]

i`ll do it, be aware that some of the thermodynaimcs might already have been answered.

[Gabbe]

When we die or brain stops functioning we don`t go anywere.
The guy belives that the bible is the word of god, but i already stated that the god and the bible prooves eachother
And he belives that evolution is dumb which is wrong, the evolution is actually science.

If god isn`t accepted this videos is

He thinks we shouldn`t doubt god, but when we do, he doesn`t exist.

StarTrek is actually realistic to our current science, nooooooo, this video plain denies science.

So, basically he is calling me a devil and a lier and a dumb idiot.

God is made in our image.

Hitler was a creationist and he belived strongly in god, and that is sooooooo not objective or relevant to the subject.

And that guy actually lies alot, and he lies big, and he does just what he said hitler did...

It was funny how it can be musinderstood "they wanted my banana"

And "The person is the sucker" was hella funny!

Hes getting off the topic...

Now hes advertising for DinoLand or something...

he didn t argue with ANYTHING called backups or evidence.

[Gabbe]

And for craps sake, there is one theory of evolution, hes says there is several...geezes, a old man is stupid again...

[Gabbe]

im posting a lot alone here now...

He says evolution is the origin of life, but evolution is how it evolved, abiogenesis is how life came to be the scientific theory which can be prooven with experiments with amino acids.

[modman]

Don't worry, He'll prove Himself soon.

That's what the Aztecs said about Huitzilopochtli.  And what the Babylonians said about Anu.  And what the Germanic peoples said about Thor.  And what the Greeks said about Apollo.  Or what the Maya said about Kukulcan.  Do you understand now why no one takes that kind of statement seriously?

Did you all see these?

Unfortunately yes.  The man thinks forming higher elements out of lower elements is impossible, yet claims to have a scientific degree and have taught high school science for 15 years.

If you agree with Mr. Hovind on that point, please explain how the Sun works, and how thermonuclear devices harness so much energy.

[1purplecow]

God: creates stuff; man: transforms stuff; devices: Matter can neither be created nor destroyed but only transformed, bro. Hang loose.  Peace out. cockerspaniels'nailsarenotblue?

[@kukac@]

[wyvern]

God himself had to evolve or be created as things don't just appear, I like the pic Kukac , I won't argue until this declaration is challenged properly by one of the creationists. If it is not answered it means that they don't have an answer