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Re: Religous Debates
« Reply #450 on: 6 May 2010, 17:18:55 »
God doesn't evolve. ::)

Let's argue in the other topic please. :|
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Re: Religous Debates
« Reply #451 on: 6 May 2010, 17:32:13 »
Jesus wasnt "ressurected" in the literal sense, that would imply that He rose from the dead by an outside force, but He used His own power as God to do that.

more proof of God - What has every civilazation had? a pantheon of gods. Why? Because of this thing called a "God-Shaped Hole." God put in every man the want to worship something (preferably Him). If this want did not exist, these civilizations would not have created dieties, and the idea to do so would never cross their minds. People try to fill this hole with whatever they can, but only God will suffice.

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Re: Religous Debates
« Reply #452 on: 6 May 2010, 17:34:39 »
You can`t pull god in every hole of science...god was evidence for everything a long time ago, now hes shrinking..

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Re: Religous Debates
« Reply #453 on: 6 May 2010, 17:39:37 »
I agree, and God is an excuse to not think about something and have an easy solution, God did it, God made it, why not actually think about the problem.

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Re: Religous Debates
« Reply #454 on: 6 May 2010, 17:49:41 »
I'm curious why Evolution doesn't solve it's problems.......
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Re: Religous Debates
« Reply #455 on: 6 May 2010, 18:01:25 »
if animals were evolving over millions of years, then that would mean that there would be millions of different "missing links." explain why we cant find the millions of different half-lizard/half bird skeletons that would need to have happened for evolution.

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Re: Religous Debates
« Reply #456 on: 6 May 2010, 18:21:23 »
ah, fossils, we also havent found a fraction of all the spceis on earth..

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Re: Religous Debates
« Reply #457 on: 6 May 2010, 19:26:51 »
Exactly, mans knowledge of the Earth is quite rudimentary

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Re: Religous Debates
« Reply #458 on: 6 May 2010, 20:36:11 »
You know, atheist belive something, we pray daily, we worship, and we know he exist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk8EANdpAj0
« Last Edit: 6 May 2010, 21:01:32 by Gabriel, Gabbe »

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Re: Religous Debates
« Reply #459 on: 7 May 2010, 22:31:39 »
Ah I'm bored with this and I don't know what to say or argue anymore and yea... I haven't been on in a while how is everyone

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Re: Religous Debates
« Reply #460 on: 8 May 2010, 07:57:12 »
Im bored to, and now i got sick, won`t reply herer anymore...

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Re: Religous Debates
« Reply #461 on: 8 May 2010, 14:09:05 »
I'm good.

Get well Gabbe. :)
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« Reply #462 on: 8 May 2010, 15:17:05 »
thx arch.

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Re: Religous Debates
« Reply #463 on: 12 May 2010, 04:07:42 »
We are here because we are very, very, very lucky. So how come I haven't won the lottery twenty times in a row yet?

This is called the teleological argument.  It is faulty because it implies that order can only come from a designer, in this case God.  Unfortunately, the only way we differentiate "ordered" universes from those which are not is that they contain life.


order can and does only come from a Designer.  The level of order within our universe is staggering, and to say that it is was the work of nothing more than a natural phenomenon is awfully arrogant.  According to the second law of Thermodynamics, Every system, if left to itself, invariably tends towards disorder.  The evolutionary theory goes against that law by assuming that everything became more and more complex the longer it exists.

Trying to start up the debate again.  -_-
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Re: Religous Debates
« Reply #464 on: 12 May 2010, 06:07:53 »
please no, stop the debate, it`s beeen going on for way too long...

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Re: Religous Debates
« Reply #465 on: 12 May 2010, 13:12:53 »
Our system is being thrown into disorder ::) ::), i will withdraw as well if there are no good arguments.

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Re: Religous Debates
« Reply #466 on: 12 May 2010, 13:16:48 »
The laws of thermodynamics only works in a closed system btw, repeated words tho...

Watch these videos and make sure not to use the arguments presented:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSxgnu3Hww8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfZFsXfCy6s

So what are the other laws of thermodynamics?
« Last Edit: 12 May 2010, 13:30:56 by Gabriel, Gabbe »

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Re: Religous Debates
« Reply #467 on: 12 May 2010, 14:02:58 »
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order can and does only come from a Designer.  The level of order within our universe is staggering, and to say that it is was the work of nothing more than a natural phenomenon is awfully arrogant.

Agreed. :thumbup:



Gabbe: I watched those two videos. "The Thinking Athiest" apparently is extremely uninformed about Creationism. :P
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Re: Religous Debates
« Reply #468 on: 12 May 2010, 14:05:55 »
This universe is not perfectly ordered Arch, Seanachaidh, and creationist company, The sun will one day shrivel up the earth, is that perfectly ordered. ::) >:( >:( :bomb: :wicked: :P :O :(

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Re: Religous Debates
« Reply #469 on: 12 May 2010, 14:14:32 »
We're probably going to have colonized the whole galaxy by then. ::)



Can you feed wood and nails to a machine that randomly assembles things, and hope to have a good strong and sturdy ladder within 1000 years, I highly doubt that.
The wood is not cut, and the machine has to cut the wood almost perfectly.
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« Reply #470 on: 12 May 2010, 14:17:59 »
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We're probably going to have colonized the whole galaxy by then. Roll Eyes
Humanity is in decline, we are not getting any better, just look the, USA is shutting down its space program, we'll never get out of this galaxy at such a rate >:( >:( :o

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« Reply #471 on: 12 May 2010, 14:24:25 »
Rawr! this random shit is getting really old, but i say, lets take up the debate again? Im replenished with joy for it, lets try to stay serious :) i know, it was me and kukac last time but...

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Re: Religous Debates
« Reply #472 on: 12 May 2010, 14:34:49 »
Sorry but i`ll have to be archs definition of "an ass" and tear down your post sean.

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order can and does only come from a Designer.  The level of order within our universe is staggering, and to say that it is was the work of nothing more than a natural phenomenon is awfully arrogant.


Please look up the following definitions it is very hard to read your post when the words are infact incorrect to use.

Order
Phenomenon
Awfull
Arogant

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just look the, USA is shutting down its space program, we'll never get out of this galaxy at such a rate

I`ll have to side with arch on this one, there are BILLIONS of years till the sun blows, its estimated around 6, the rate is in our favour at the extreme.

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Humanity is in decline, we are not getting any better

Yes...You know, thats what they said during the medieval times...

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Can you feed wood and nails to a machine that randomly assembles things, and hope to have a good strong and sturdy ladder within 1000 years, I highly doubt that.
The wood is not cut, and the machine has to cut the wood almost perfectly.

Look, if you really do want to put examples to simplify/simplyfy (idk how to write it, only say it :D) your view for us, you`ll have to refer to what it is to be a example for. If Evolution is the case, then this is incorrect explanation, if it is abigenesis your only somewhat correct.

I will once again like you to see what the words is intended to mean before stating that "thats how it is"

in this case this will be

Abiogenesis
Random
Evolution

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We're probably going to have colonized the whole galaxy by then. Roll Eyes

Don`t get too optimistic  :O :O

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Re: Religous Debates
« Reply #473 on: 12 May 2010, 14:55:01 »
The sun will destroy itself in 6billion years but that doesn't mean conditions will be livable for the time past, second of all we may be extinct from other causes by then ::)

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Re: Religous Debates
« Reply #474 on: 12 May 2010, 15:00:13 »
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The sun will destroy itself in 6billion years but that doesn't mean conditions will be livable for the time past, second of all we may be extinct from other causes by then Roll Eyes

I`ve made a topic for this stuff...