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Can't get by Tech & Magic Level no matter what I do
« on: 2 April 2010, 06:05:25 »
I'm playing Glest on Ubuntu Ultimate Edition and love it but I'm stuck. Very Stuck!!!

I have tried nearly every thing I can think of to get past the Tech & Magic Scenario where it's you against tech and magic opponents.

So far, the most successful was to send a regular stream of swordsman to their deaths at the bottom right corner, just to delay the overwhelming attack.

Has anyone ever beaten this level and if so how???

100+ tries and counting. Please help.

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Re: Can't get by Tech & Magic Level no matter what I do
« Reply #1 on: 2 April 2010, 23:16:28 »
You mean the scenario right...  ::)
Well, I beat it, but the time when I finished it, I had that bug for Magic when they "don't do much"... ::) in GAE.
Basically, you just have to use your regular Glest Tech strategies...  ::)
Maybe this link will help: https://docs.megaglest.org/Strategies (A little bit)...
I mean...once you pass this scenario, try out the Siege of Despair scenario. It's hell, I guess.  ::)
Anyways, it's not impossible to win against 2 or more CPU ULTRA(s) (Ultra is basically the same as normal, they just have a 300x gold harvest rate from normal) or (in megaglest, CPU mega(s).) You just need a strategy. Now, if we had a multiplayer game, it will probably be different, since we/humans are actually...  ::)

Here, you can see "gameplay" for this scenario here and here:
When I lose: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGAWjaz0oYE
When I win: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMxpzEmQLLA

Well, good luck with Glest, and I'm pretty sure you will beat it, once you just do, or when others come and tell you a detailed way/strategy for this to beat this scenario.  ::)

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Re: Can't get by Tech & Magic Level no matter what I do
« Reply #2 on: 3 April 2010, 02:58:40 »
I can't remember the scenario well, it's been a long while, but as tech, the key is to not use swordsmen (preferably at all), but mass create archers. Start the game with JUST workers (and lots, maybe 10-15) and harvest resources while (slowly) starting to build. Get lots of archers (since they are cheap and are ranged) fast. Focus on getting a technodrome when you can spare the resources/workers, and get the aerodrome built (by a technician) and get the two upgrades. You should try and get airships since they are very powerful and effective (but slow). When it's time to attack, take many archers, a handful of airships, and perhaps a couple of guards to absorb hits (aka, a tank).

Things to bear in mind:
-Attack as one large force, not many small ones. You'll work better and be able to guarantee success, as well as suffer less causalities.
-When attacking, select groups of 16 (the current max selectable at one time) and number them (Ctrl + #). Then you can reselect them quickly by pressing that #. Do this for all your attackers.
-Also when attacking, move about 10 spaces at a time (otherwise slow units like airships fall behind and then the attack is weaker).
-Don't send all your units to attack. Keep a small number in the base in case you are attacked.
-If attacked, move any far out workers towards the base so they aren't killed, then focus on letting your men automatically attack the foe. Manually clicking should be reserved for very powerful enemies (such as airships, battlemachines, and dragons), otherwise the constant changing of foes may be too slow. HOWEVER, you can select a group of just archers and have them target a foe, since you need to only click the foe once generally and all the archers will attack it, which will probably kill it for sure, allowing you to quickly defeat foes one by one, which is more efficent than slowly killing them all at the same time. This isn't so good for melee units or slow stuff like airships though.

Try this and if it is still too hard, practice a bit to get to know the techs well and you'll be owning ultra magics and ultra techs in no time!
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Re: Can't get by Tech & Magic Level no matter what I do
« Reply #3 on: 3 April 2010, 19:27:53 »
Also, I usually build a strong defense base, so even when Magic and Tech comes, I will survive. (Lots of defense towers, then units behind it, maybe some airships or archers.)
So uh maybe...I'm like a
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Octopus

-Builds base like crazy. This player is an expansionist, and can be extremely hard to take out. Their strength is based on their resilient economy, which will easily suffer one small strike and then rebuild.

Somewhat.

Oh wait, more like this.

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Porcupine

-builds a tightly knit base with a huge amount of resources stockpiled and their base is completely surrounded by a thick defensive that is virtually impenetrable to single unit attack types. Different than turtle because they later become offensive in nature.

And maybe this...  ::)

So...uh... good luck. Have fun.  :) :thumbup:

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Re: Can't get by Tech & Magic Level no matter what I do
« Reply #4 on: 4 April 2010, 23:06:25 »
To hold off attacks, build defense towers and place guards and archers around them, and when you attack send full parties of good troops, and don't use your defenses for attacking! :D
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Re: Can't get by Tech & Magic Level no matter what I do
« Reply #5 on: 10 April 2010, 01:35:31 »
To hold off attacks, build defense towers and place guards and archers around them, and when you attack send full parties of good troops, and don't use your defenses for attacking! :D
Which is basically what I said, besides you made it clearer.  ::)
EDIT: OK, these two videos kinda show what I'm talking about. At least by doing this, you have a greater chance of surviving.   ::)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ems_r2ghHo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqV0BZl1xA0

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Re: Can't get by Tech & Magic Level no matter what I do
« Reply #6 on: 11 April 2010, 01:24:48 »
Everyone basically said what i was going to say but yeah try not to use defensive for attacking and just keep trying don't give up!

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Re: Can't get by Tech & Magic Level no matter what I do
« Reply #7 on: 30 April 2010, 13:39:09 »
Thanks for the tip Omega.  I didn't know you can number a 16 unit group with the control key.  This is something I would have been using had I known about it earlier.