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I never said I want everyone else's graphics to suck, but I want them to earn it, not get it through some cheap new system.
So having your parents buy you a fancy computer with a nice graphics card entitles you to something? No Opinion
Nobody bought me a nice new computer. I got a Radeon HD 5870. It's not going to mean anything in a couple years, AMD and Nvidia will fall, no more awesome thriving graphics competition.
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There's an immense amount of harmless fun through having a powerful gaming system. It also fuels the whole gaming industry. If all the graphics are the same, nobody is going to GIVE A SHIT after 6 months.
As opposed to how things are now, where they just move on to the next game six months later because the new one is prettier?
You surely haven't played Crysis or Modern Warfare 2 which are both tremendous games. But true, a lot of games aren't really anything new these days.
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Why? Because then you might as well read a book. And why pay $100 for the 500th game to use the same exact graphics, when you can get a book that has simply the story which will become the only innovative part, for about $10.
OH NO, PEOPLE MIGHT START READING AGAIN! Shocked Laughing Sorry, but that was hilarious. Smile
Besides, games have so many more tools at their disposal for telling a story. They can branch out and have many possibilities, things can turn out differently every time you play them, and you get to interact with the characters and environment in a way that you can't through a book.
You realize that people will still focus on graphics, and it will very likely be much the same as it is, aside from the graphics.
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I personally hope they price this new stuff real high so it doesn't completely shut down the gaming industry. This will be horrible for AMD and Nvidia.
Because poor people don't deserve nice things, but spoiled kids do?
I'm not spoiled at all, in fact my family is devorced and rather poor. We do one time things and do them right, that doesn't make us rich. It feels like socialism to me, everybodies gets stuff they didn't pay for, even though in this case it's due to technological advancement and of course they ARE getting what they paid for, it just doesn't feel right. I would support it I just think it's going to spoil graphics............even more.
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You clearly haven't played very many high-detail games. Crysis has a great story! Far better than most movies.
And that has nothing to do with their graphics. Look at Halo for example. It's fun, but it's mindless fun. The characters are completely forgettable, and the plot... wait, what plot? If you want to play a game where you get to work out your aggression and look at pretty explosions, the Halo series is a good choice, but you're not going to get any intellectual stimulation from it. I'll take a game with a decent story but outdated graphics over something that's pure graphics porn.
Don't even try to compare Halo and MW2, MW2 has a tremendous storyline, and Crysis has unbelievable graphics and storyline.
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No more innovation, just throw everything you've got at it.
Wait what? No more innovation? This is innovation, real innovation (i.e. coming up with something new that nobody's seen before), as opposed to a very slight tweak by adding more and more polygons every year because now the hardware can handle it. And you see who's opposing this actual innovation? Don't complain about a lack of innovation when you're the one opposing it.
I guess I tend to ignore games like halo and stupid repetitive crap. Because all I play are heavy duty games that are immensely good. Crysis was and will forever be the greatest innovation of gaming. It used an incredibly bad polygon-based type of rendering and made it unbelievable. I agree this will be a pretty awesome innovation, but I still don't like an iphone being as powerful as my custom built computer, which no was not randomly bought, it has been custom built and upgraded carefully. I mean all that careful research and hardware, poof, I just want to strangle somebody.
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My final comment: Crysis is amazing why? Not because it has good graphics, but because it can do mass quality physics and amazing particles in real-time, efficiently. And at the same time, boast immense lighting/shading that doesn't bog you're computer much.
... and if developers don't have to worry so much about graphics, then they can freely focus on making things like that better, instead of releasing the same damn football game every year with a very slight graphics makeover. They can explore new gameplay mechanics and ideas that haven't been done before.
I see your point, but you can't say that about Crysis. I never play football games. You wanna play football GO PLAY IT! Games are for shooting people without killing them so you can get the action without the death toll. Or playing god in an RTS game.
I honestly don't see why you're opposing this, unless it's just because you won't get to brag and be smug about the gaming rig your parents bought you. No Opinion
Read above about the rig. I really like the system we have now, because I have a new graphics card and a lot of good games exist. Hopefully we'll be able to play all these games still with the new system since obviously it's going to happen. Is it hardware or software, cause if it's software I'm screwed. :'( (Not sure cause I've heard a lot about a card to support this, and software for multiple uses.
