Dragon faction!

[hairy cat]

Hey everyone, i am new here and i'd like to create a faction So how about a dragon faction? I think it would go nicely against tech.
But i'm pretty new at all this stuff, so how about ideas and suggestions?
Here's the tech tree so far :
Units :
Holy dragon : Very powerful and slow dragon, shoots black flames.
Red dragon  : Less powerful dragon and a bit quicker than the holy.
Baby dragon : Acts as a worker, shoots little flames.
Dragon rider : Human riding dragon
Armoured dragon : Dragon with heavy metal armour and high hp, effective against buildings.
Light dragon : Shoots little flames, but very fast and with a wide range.
Buildings :
Dragon nest (base)
Dragon cave, summons heavy units.
Upgrades :
Dragon armour : Enables to create the armoured dragon.
Dragon taming : Allows the dragon rider.

[Gabbe]

Yey! finally you posted your topic, here is some art i googled:

[hairy cat]

Just thought of a new unit :
Blue dragon, shoots some kind of ice fire.

http://drakenmeester.x-press-u.nl/upload/2410/images/dragon_blue2.jpg

[ElimiNator]

Sounds neat, do you know how to model?

[hairy cat]

Able to do a few simple models in maya, dunno about dragons, but i could give it a shot
But i suck with almost everything else, so i will probably need contribution
I can handle the xmls they are quite simple.

[ElimiNator]

Not to dim this any, but most people who start factions and don't know how to model, well the faction dosent go to far. I sujust to lean blender well. 

[hairy cat]

k thanks i will try it
Got any ideas for the faction?
And i won't leave the project, cuz i find it most interesting

[wyvern]

k thanks i will try it
Got any ideas for the faction?
And i won't leave the project, cuz i find it most interesting

Looks like a great idea , but it will take a lot of work and as the others said, you have to know how to model and dragons are from what I know, hard to model, I might help with modelling but I'm also amateurish in modelling skills, faction suggestions are,
the dragons should be ground based at the beginning to be fair to other factions, then they should get some upgrade, like great wings(not necessarily this name) that allows them to morph between flying and ground, they should also have a combination of skills like melee, tail lashing, biting, etc, and then the dragon type specific projectile attack, like the black flames, fireballs, ice shards etc, which should be ep based but powerful, versus the melee which is powerful and doesn't require ep, Oh and one last thing they should be really expensive.

[hairy cat]

So it is possible to make them switch from ground to air? Can you tell me how to do that in the xml files?

[wyvern]

Not quit sure, it in the xml's, you just give the dragon a morph to ground dragon ability, and it automatically morphs to a dragon on the ground, you will need separate units though, example is, black dragon-->grounded black dragon, I'll be using this for the ww1 mod if possible

[hairy cat]

Using an upgrade...Like Swordman ---> Guardian. The model changes ( bigger wings ) and can fly.
K that might be a good idea
But maybe not on every unit. It should only be possible to ground it at a few units
And maybe dragons without wings? ( cannot fly )

[wyvern]

drakes you mean, I think that all of them should be able to land it would be interesting and it would make them flexible in the sense of being able to move from island to island.

[hairy cat]

So they can have a ground attack and an air attack!
Ground attack : tail swing
air attack : Fiiiiiiiiire!!!!

[wyvern]

So they can have a ground attack and an air attack!
Ground attack : tail swing
air attack : Fiiiiiiiiire!!!!

Actually, I was thinking that both should be enabled in each form but melee should be better on ground and projectiles in the air, what about a dragon, swooper, it would come down and rip up enemies on the ground and in the air but be unable to breathe fire, and a purely flame launching dragon. the swooper wouldn't be able to land though

[Gabbe]

Hairy Cat can proabably model, he got maya, and that costs a lot, hes been pming me for some time, i think he can model good

[hairy cat]

Dont overestimate me...
I can just manage
But thanks for the compliment 

[Gabbe]

*just manage

You`ll need to do the majority of work yourself, or ask for a request in the free models topic by me [hypercube] little helper and wyver, we create all the models you need if you request for us

[hairy cat]

sure
Me and wyvern are going to make the full techtree with pms, you can help if you want.
When we are done we will post it and go further into the project
Suggestions are still welcome btw.

[ElimiNator]

About the land air thing you half to have 2 sepret units one for air and 1 for land. (Youl need 3 units if you don't want it to cost resources to morph from land to air.

[John.d.h]

I think the idea of an entire faction made of dragons really cheapens the mystique of dragonkind.  Dragons are among the mightiest of all creatures in just about every mythology that has them (which is pretty much all of them), and demoting them to common workers and foot-soldiers seems just... wrong.   Now, if you wanted to make the dragons some kind of "master race" in charge of the faction, and use minions for the grunt work.  What I think would be even cooler, though, would be to go a whole different route, where your dragon is your main unit who generates the rest of your faction, and then can upgrade itself as you progress.

What I mean is like, you start with a dragon hatchling and a couple minions (humans or whatever), and as you build up your base, you can promote your dragon hatchling into say... a juvenile dragon, and then a greater dragon, and then a great wyrm, or something like that.  At some point, you could produce more dragons by building a hatchery or something, I guess.

[wyvern]

I think the idea of an entire faction made of dragons really cheapens the mystique of dragonkind.  Dragons are among the mightiest of all creatures in just about every mythology that has them (which is pretty much all of them), and demoting them to common workers and foot-soldiers seems just... wrong.   Now, if you wanted to make the dragons some kind of "master race" in charge of the faction, and use minions for the grunt work.  What I think would be even cooler, though, would be to go a whole different route, where your dragon is your main unit who generates the rest of your faction, and then can upgrade itself as you progress.

What I mean is like, you start with a dragon hatchling and a couple minions (humans or whatever), and as you build up your base, you can promote your dragon hatchling into say... a juvenile dragon, and then a greater dragon, and then a great wyrm, or something like that.  At some point, you could produce more dragons by building a hatchery or something, I guess.

Actually it hopefully won't be just dragons, me and hairy cat will probably have drakes for the poor bloody infantry, and humans for workers and archers, maybe enchanters, buildings are still in question

[hairy cat]

Thanks John.d.h i will make a few changes then
Actually we where thinking about humans as lower units and dragons as very powerful and costly units

[hairy cat]

How to xml an upgrade that becomes availible when the unit reaches a certain amount of kills?

[John.d.h]

How to xml an upgrade that becomes availible when the unit reaches a certain amount of kills?

You can't, unfortunately.  The only "requirements" available are units, upgrades, and resources.

[Little Helper]

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