Dragon faction!

[wyvern]

Heres a compromise, the dragons a hero style unit, BUT, the baby dragon can choose its way, and morph into any of the dragon types which would be green dragon, ice dragon, red dragon etc etc, second of all there could be a series of minor dragons that are weak and roughly the equal of magic dragons, the wyrm could be a ground hero unit, while the dragon would be a hero air unit.

[Gabbe]

Independant morphin when the baby feels like!??!

[wyvern]

Independant morphin when the baby feels like!??!

What the heck, no the baby could morph into any of a certain selection of dragons but it wouldn't be able to morph back, sort of like a career choice

[Gabbe]

Independant morphin when the baby feels like!??!

What the heck, no the baby could morph into any of a certain selection of dragons but it wouldn't be able to morph back, sort of like a career choice

the baby dragon can choose its way

[John.d.h]

I was thinking the Hatchling would be pretty weak but have enough HP to survive an attack, and the Juvenile would be equal to Magic's Dragon.  Of course, since you get it kinda early, it will be the most powerful unit around, but you only have one of them and you have to keep it safe, so I think that kinda compensates for it.  The Adult Dragon (needs a cooler name) would be significantly more powerful, and the Great Wyrm would be a "oh crap, we're all gonna die" unit.

the baby dragon can choose its way, and morph into any of the dragon types which would be green dragon, ice dragon, red dragon etc etc,

Hmm... that's an interesting thought.  However, I don't see how the different types would play any differently without GAE effects (e.g. ice slows you down, lightning stuns you for a moment, poison does persistent damage, etc.).  They'd basically just look different.

second of all there could be a series of minor dragons that are weak and roughly the equal of magic dragons, the wyrm could be a ground hero unit, while the dragon would be a hero air unit.

That's what the Drakes' Nest Den is for.

Ground unit: Fire Drake.
Air unit: Sky Drake.

By the way, we need a defense unit.  Ideas?

[Gabbe]

Building or creature?

[hairy cat]

We already have one. Its the stone guardian. You can create it by morphing your wyrm into it. It will be as powerful as the wyrm, but unable to move.

[John.d.h]

Okay, I was going to update the diagram, but the GIMP's giving me attitude right now.

Anyway, basically the idea is to make an Earth Drake (or something similar) at the Drakes' Den and either this would be a tough ground unit that could morph into a stationary defense unit, or just mobile enough to maneuver into a good defensive position, so it would be much like Magic's Golem.  Alternatively, we could spawn it at another building, like a Cave.

[hairy cat]

earth drake?
What about some kind of stone attack, huge boulder that he can throw, as big as a guard unit. Would make a lot of damage and a splash

john.d.h so yeah basicly, you should add those to the tech tree :

Earth drake
Dragon rider
Ranger
Experienced protector
Remove amphibian drake
Remove air drake
Oh and maybe dragon tower for upgrades.

[John.d.h]

earth drake?
What about some kind of stone attack, huge boulder that he can throw, as big as a guard unit. Would make a lot of damage and a splash

Sure.

john.d.h so yeah basicly, you should add those to the tech tree :

Earth drake
Dragon rider
Ranger
Experienced protector
Remove amphibian drake
Remove air drake

The Dragon Rider and the Sky Drake are basically the same thing.  I hadn't envisioned it with a rider, but it's no problem either way.  I'd just rather keep the name Sky Drake because 1.) it sounds cooler, and 2.) that distinguishes it from being a "true" dragon.  Do we want to keep the Half-Dragon?  It seems like the Experienced Protector would be replacing him.  Maybe the Ranger could be a Half-Dragon?  Just give him a bow and we're good to go.

Oh and maybe dragon tower for upgrades.

What do you think of just using the Treasure Trove for upgrades?

[hairy cat]

I think we should keep the half dragon and change it to a powerful ranger
And, you may use the sky drake name.
And, i thought the treasure trove might not be enough for all the upgrades.

[Gabbe]

hairy, edit your posts, instead of repost, your worse than me and wyvern combined.

[John.d.h]

I think we should keep the half dragon and change it to a powerful ranger
And, you may use the sky drake name.
And, i thought the treasure trove might not be enough for all the upgrades.

Sounds good.  The Treasure Trove could have low-level upgrades for your Protectors, Rangers, etc., and the tower could have them for more powerful units.

[Gabbe]

im not sure how much i can work on it, ig to soo much to do..

[wyvern]

I don't agree with the sky drake cuz drakes are gorund units, I think the wyrm should be a separate hero form the dragon, the dragon is air the wyrm is ground.

[-Archmage-]

Guys could you please stop SPAMMING the forums. (John, you aren't guilty.)

Seriously, I'm not on for 3 hours and when I get back on, I have 2 pages of about 50% SPAM to read.

John's posts are worth reading, he has some content and stuff to read, but this continuous string of one-liners is killing me!

I'll try to be involved in this discussion, but I'll stop trying and not bother if you guys keep up the continuous spamming.

[John.d.h]

im not sure how much i can work on it, ig to soo much to do..

Same here.  I can come up with ideas easily, but I've got a ton of other projects going on.

I don't agree with the sky drake cuz drakes are gorund units, I think the wyrm should be a separate hero form the dragon, the dragon is air the wyrm is ground.

Dragon, wyrm, and drake are all synonyms.  While drakes are established in Glest canon as ground units, that doesn't necessarily mean that there aren't other kinds.  Making all the flying units dragons, cheapens them.  Dragons are great and powerful beings in every mythology, and making them common makes them less majestic.  Think of how awesome Smaug was, and then how much less awesome he would have been if there had been a dozen other dragons in The Hobbit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uvPXTDKwWM

My armor is like ten-fold shields.  My teeth are like swords.  My claws, spears.  The shock of my tail, a thunderbolt.  My wings, a hurricane!  My breath, death!  Well?  Where are your riddles now?

[wyvern]

Not from what I know, read the sillmarillion, Glaumrung is flightless and is a wyrm

[John.d.h]

What's your point?

[wyvern]

That it should be divided, wyrms flightless uber unit, dragon flying uber unit, but I reconsidered and the flying drake could be nice, I think hairy cat already suggested this but what about a wyvern

[John.d.h]

A wyvern could be cool.  How about Sky Drakes as a sort of light air unit like the Ornithopter, and Wyverns as a heavy flying unit with a poison cloud attack?

[wyvern]

A wyvern could be cool.  How about Sky Drakes as a sort of light air unit like the Ornithopter, and Wyverns as a heavy flying unit with a poison cloud attack?

Sounds kinda cool , or we could have some creatures from my book, I made up some dragon creatures called flaswyrms which shoot lightning and only have hind legs, I also suggested the wyvern as a magic addition but I don't care where as long as its used or both factions can havedifferent versions of the unit. Wild wyverns could breathe poison/acid and could be extremely powerful in melee, capable of lifting elephants they were huge, while the tamed magic wyvern lost its poison ability but became far stronger through its bond with magic

[John.d.h]

I already had the Sky Drake slated to breathe lightning, so I guess I'm a step ahead.

@Hairy Cat: You sure you want this to be for MG?  There are so many ways we could take advantage of GAE with this.

[wyvern]

I already had the Sky Drake slated to breathe lightning, so I guess I'm a step ahead.

@Hairy Cat: You sure you want this to be for MG?  There are so many ways we could take advantage of GAE with this.

I agree with John on that one.

[hairy cat]

@Hairy Cat: You sure you want this to be for MG?  There are so many ways we could take advantage of GAE with this.

Alright then, i will make it for GAE.

Guys could you please stop SPAMMING the forums. (John, you aren't guilty.)

Seriously, I'm not on for 3 hours and when I get back on, I have 2 pages of about 50% SPAM to read.

John's posts are worth reading, he has some content and stuff to read, but this continuous string of one-liners is killing me!

I'll try to be involved in this discussion, but I'll stop trying and not bother if you guys keep up the continuous spamming.

Sorry Archmage, i'll try to post less

So the sky drake would be a flying drake, shoots lighting, and maybe has a rider. Alright. Lets settle this that way.

A wyvern could be cool.  How about Sky Drakes as a sort of light air unit like the Ornithopter, and Wyverns as a heavy flying unit with a poison cloud attack?

Sure, thats nice. But then the wyvern will remplace the wyrm?