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Re: Factions Download Center
« Reply #150 on: 3 July 2010, 15:56:15 »
Thats kind of true, but hey, they kinda deserve recognition don't they, and some of them are fun to play, I forgot to upload flyff and swift, sorry, I'll upload flyff and follow up with swift once its done being fixed by me ::) ::)

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« Reply #151 on: 3 July 2010, 20:09:57 »
Personally I would classify Dark Magic as Gold. Although it is rough around the edges it uses 99% original content.
As I recall, there are few if any new sounds, so that's what brought it down.

where are elves on that list
You tell me.  I haven't played it. :P

This is OT, but is solunar mod still under development
Yup.  Just to clarify, Solunar is the same thing as Sun and Moon.  I usually use the Solunar name now, because there is already another mod called Moon.

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By this standard you would also have to classify Titi's megapack as silver, despite being the most highly regarded and rated mod on this site!
And what about quality? Where will that fit into your system?
This is just for categorization and only works with empirical data, whereas a quality-based rating system works with people's opinions of what's good or bad.  I don't think there's any reason the two couldn't go exist, though.

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« Reply #152 on: 3 July 2010, 23:56:07 »
Personally I would classify Dark Magic as Gold. Although it is rough around the edges it uses 99% original content.
As I recall, there are few if any new sounds, so that's what brought it down.

where are elves on that list
You tell me.  I haven't played it. :P

This is OT, but is solunar mod still under development
Yup.  Just to clarify, Solunar is the same thing as Sun and Moon.  I usually use the Solunar name now, because there is already another mod called Moon.

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By this standard you would also have to classify Titi's megapack as silver, despite being the most highly regarded and rated mod on this site!
And what about quality? Where will that fit into your system?
This is just for categorization and only works with empirical data, whereas a quality-based rating system works with people's opinions of what's good or bad.  I don't think there's any reason the two couldn't go exist, though.
I'd make elves silver :) :)

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Re: Factions Download Center
« Reply #153 on: 4 July 2010, 01:52:59 »
What is the "tier:" at the end for?

New models: 1 pt
New sounds:1 pt
Good anims: 1 pt
New icons: 1pt
New and Good textures: 1pt
How it looks and plays in game, (AI, particles ect..): 1 pt

gold      6pt
sliver     4pt
Bronze   2pt
Stone    0pt

What do you say?
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« Reply #154 on: 4 July 2010, 02:23:31 »
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What do you say?

I copied what you wrote and made a few changes. :)


New Models:  |-2:none||0:few||1: some||2: most/all|
Model Quality: |-1:crap||1:tolerable||2:good||4:great!!!|
Texture Quality: |-4:what textures?||0:one/few colors||2:a tolerable texture||3:good||4=very good||5=Realistic!!!|
Animation Quality: |-5: Animations? where?||-1:That's an animation!?||1:repetitive looking, and rigid||2:not too bad...||3:good||4:smooth and pretty good||5:very realistic looking, maybe some slight issues...|
Can the AI play it: |-5:nope||0:yep|
Particle Effects: |0:don't see any.......||1:very basic or causes lagggggggg||2:not bad....||3:good||4:great||5:PERFECT!!!!|
New Icons: |-1:no||1=yes|
Icon Quality/Visibility: |-2: can't see the icons||-1:I can't tell what they are...||1: not bad...||2:good||3:how do you do that?!|
New music: |-1:no||1:yes|
Music Quality: |-1:bad||1:not bad...||2:good||3:great!|
Balanced: |-3:terrible||0: a little off, but still fun||1: balanced well enough||2:balanced perfectly!|

Platinum: 29+
Gold:       26-28
Sliver:     20-25
Bronze:  12-19
Stone:    6-11
Lead:      0-5


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« Reply #155 on: 4 July 2010, 03:10:57 »
The system I proposed was just for breaking things up into classifications.  For the opinion stuff, there would have to be something else.  I think maybe that's where we could have somebody review each mod and give some ratings. 

Criteria for ratings:

0-10% Models
0-10% Textures
0-10% Animations
0-10% Sounds
0-10% Music
0-10% Icons
0-10% AI
0-10% Particles
0-10% Balance
0-10% Misc
=0-100% overall rating

Grades:
A=90-100%
B=80-89%
C=70-79%
D=60-69%
F=0-59%

So for example, things could look something like this:

Gold tier:
Dogs: This mod includes two factions, Corgies and Dalmatians.
* John.d.h gives this mod an A.
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This is a review.  Let's pretend it's a few paragraphs long.
* HopScotch gives this mod a B.
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Ditto, but some of the barking sounds were kinda annoying, and I didn't care for the animations.  Also, the Dalmatians' Fire Truck unit was way over-powered.
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Silver tier:
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Re: Factions Download Center
« Reply #156 on: 4 July 2010, 04:48:03 »
I like the rating system but if there are reviews I think the post would be too long and I don't want to have so many ranks because again it will make the post long:

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Gold:     
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Stone: 
Lead:   
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« Reply #157 on: 4 July 2010, 05:27:59 »
I like the rating system but if there are reviews I think the post would be too long and I don't want to have so many ranks because again it will make the post long:
That's true.  I'd prefer to just keep Gold, Silver, Bronze, and Stone or Lead.  Maybe we could put the reviews in a different topic and just put the final grade in this one?

Gold tier:

Dogs:
Download | Discussion
By: HopScotch
Description: This mod includes two factions, Corgies and Dalmatians.
Engines supported: Vanilla, GAE, MG
Reviews: Review by RawkFÿst | Review by Flo-Jay
Average grade: 87% B

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Re: Factions Download Center
« Reply #158 on: 4 July 2010, 23:10:21 »
I like john's rating method. I dunno if we could review most of these things, and there would be confusion about who rates what, but I like the grading system. What is the 10% for misc though? I suppose it could be novelty of the faction (ie: how unique or new is it? Does it feel like a recycled stereotype, or is it totally unique and new?).
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Re: Factions Download Center
« Reply #159 on: 5 July 2010, 00:56:27 »
What is the 10% for misc though? I suppose it could be novelty of the faction (ie: how unique or new is it? Does it feel like a recycled stereotype, or is it totally unique and new?).
That, and/or just any other miscellaneous thing that grabs the graders' attention as good or bad.

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« Reply #160 on: 5 July 2010, 06:47:13 »
Ratings are back, huh? Oh well, that's fine.
John's system is good.
This is OT, but is solunar mod still under development
:P Could post in the thread itself, but maybe next time you'll learn?  :|  :P
I think it is under development...just somewhat at a slow pace. Better then abandoned mods though, or ideas itself.  :|

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Re: Factions Download Center
« Reply #161 on: 5 July 2010, 23:39:06 »
Is this going to be separate from the faction reviews and gradings, or is the gradings and reviews going into here? Because if the gradings and reviews are going into here (which I recommend, since they should all be in the same place, rather than two separate lists of topics) then we don't need to sticky the 'Faction Reviews and Gradings...' because we simply use it to link to the reviews...

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« Reply #162 on: 5 July 2010, 23:41:16 »
I think we're just sticking the other one until we sort out a review/grading system. :look:

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« Reply #163 on: 6 July 2010, 00:41:20 »
Hmm...Arch was the one who created that thread so I am  :| ...
BTW, Eliminator, I think G.I.S. was updated, I mean it was...do you update them if they are updated? Not sure...  :|

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« Reply #164 on: 6 July 2010, 04:37:34 »
Yes I do.  :)
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« Reply #165 on: 6 July 2010, 13:43:53 »
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Re: Factions Download Center
« Reply #166 on: 7 July 2010, 19:36:38 »
Eliminator, you should probably delete  your Ratings topic, as it has no point now...cause...we are having ratings now, and the poll...well I guess it does not even matter.  :| oh well.
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Re: Factions Download Center
« Reply #167 on: 7 July 2010, 21:01:47 »
The rating topic isn't mine, Its archmages.
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« Reply #169 on: 7 July 2010, 21:12:54 »
Any way how should we rate the packs? 1 faction has good sounds but bad models, and 1 faction has no sound but cool models...
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« Reply #170 on: 7 July 2010, 21:29:17 »
We could rate each faction separately, but I don't think that's really necessary.  Just use your best judgment, I guess.

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« Reply #171 on: 7 July 2010, 23:18:15 »
Wow, thrown down to bronze... I would like to see how the rating system works?

Assuming you are using this:
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0-10% Models
0-10% Textures
0-10% Animations
0-10% Sounds
0-10% Music
0-10% Icons
0-10% AI
0-10% Particles
0-10% Balance
0-10% Personal feel toward any aspects of the mod...
=0-100% overall rating

Platinum: 95%+
Gold:      85-95 %
Silver:     60-84 %
Bronze:    30-59 %
Stone:     10-29 %
Lead:      0-9 %
Wip:    Unfinished
Abandonware:    Mods that have been abandoned at any stage of development.
I would really like to protest... I know the anims aren't the best, and the improved sounds haven't been released yet, but 30-59%? I do think it is better than that. >:(
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« Reply #172 on: 8 July 2010, 00:44:07 »
NO, NO, Nothing has been rated I just updated the level names Its random right now.
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« Reply #173 on: 8 July 2010, 01:19:25 »
I hate to say this but megapack shouldn't be gold, I'm really sorry to say this since its one of my favorite mods, I'm saying this cuz some of the models aren't new and neither are the sounds, some animations aren't new either :( :(, kinda sad since its definitely one of the best and most popular mods but I just thought I should point this out.

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« Reply #174 on: 8 July 2010, 01:22:22 »
It is Gold for me, since I also compare it to other factions/mods too. Mods can be good and all, have their own sounds, but they have to be fun too, and some mods kinda are not so fun...which is why I still don't think we need ratings. After all, there was a poll, but I guess we don't listen to them anymore, or since we have a good rating system, discard it right?  :|