Author Topic: Linux vs PC vs mac (Read 14675 times)

-Archmage- · « **Reply #75 on:** 6 April 2011, 08:01:02 »

I assume DirectX is Direct 3D?

will · « **Reply #76 on:** 6 April 2011, 08:23:55 »

Direct3D is the component in DirectX that is equiv to OpenGL, yes.

Gabbe · « **Reply #77 on:** 6 April 2011, 13:29:33 »

OpenGL for windows anyone?

Mr War · « **Reply #78 on:** 6 April 2011, 20:27:53 »

I'm going to show my age and say i remember how I complained when windows 95 replaced 3.whatever. XP was good but then vista and office 2007 messed up the interface. In a few days I get windows 7 or whatever the latest is, not that I care

Give me XP/office 2003 interface any day, especially for work

Mac... I'm too poor ( well I type this on my iPhone)

Linux is for geeks

UtbAnu?????????? WTF?

-Archmage- · « **Reply #79 on:** 6 April 2011, 22:21:32 »

@Mr.War: The name is African.

ultifd · « **Reply #80 on:** 6 April 2011, 23:13:01 »

Quote from: -Archmage- on 6 April 2011, 07:36:29

And why is it a problem?

Why isn't it a problem? That's the advantage of Linux to me...Also Windows is more of a UI for everything IMO. Unless you are a gamer Linux is OK.

Quote from: will on 6 April 2011, 07:41:43

I really get agitated when I have to boot into Vista again to use some silly company web-app that requires IE6 or whatever.

Just use an add-on like IEtab or something.

Regarding OpenGL, I can't wait till we find the right person for improving the "background"(lighting and shadows, etc) of Glest...that's more of the reason why 0 A.D. looks good.

Quote from: Mr War on 6 April 2011, 20:27:53

Give me XP/office 2003 interface any day, especially for work

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Linux is for geeks

Not always

John.d.h · « **Reply #81 on:** 6 April 2011, 23:20:13 »

This is a forum for a free indie strategy game. I think it's safe to say we're all geeks here.

ultifd · « **Reply #82 on:** 6 April 2011, 23:31:11 »

But we know kids that are playing Glest, so they must be Geeks too? So they'll become geeks?

Omega · « **Reply #83 on:** 7 April 2011, 04:11:46 »

Quote from: Mr War on 6 April 2011, 20:27:53

Mac... I'm too poor ( well I type this on my iPhone)

I loath macs personally. Overpriced hardware (I could build that mac for half the price!) with an OS of questionable support.

Quote from: Mr War on 6 April 2011, 20:27:53

Linux is for geeks

Studies show that 99% of people are geeks at heart.

I personally prefer windows, but nothing beats a dual boot. Who said you can't have your cake and eat it too (catering services excluded).

Granted, the UI of Vista/7 seems to be a big issue for many, but personally, I think that any major change like that will merely take a long time to get used to, but once you get used to it, it will be hard to go back, and you'll know exactly where everything is. For example, when the school computers upgraded to Office 2007 (and later 2010), I was very lost and confused for the first few weeks, but now I'm so used to it I can hardly remember how 2003 was (all I know is that it's similar-ish to OpenOffice.org, which I use on my home computer). Likewise, the vista UI and folder structure took some getting used to, but now XP feels alien and let's not talk about windows 95 (I kinda skipped over 97 and ME, going from 95 to XP. Kinda a mind jolt). The bottom line: All major changes are controversial at first, but everyone get's used to it eventually. I could continue this topic into many other non-OS related changes that went from controversial to universally accepted, but that would probably end poorly.

Gabbe · « **Reply #84 on:** 7 April 2011, 05:27:51 »

My windows 95 is ruined, because it lacks compatibility with 64-bit processors...

-Archmage- · « **Reply #85 on:** 7 April 2011, 07:20:08 »

Linux has been constantly changing it's interface. Kubuntu was great back in Kubuntu 3.x, 4.x+ is just *puke*. Ubuntu: Gnome, looking pretty straight forward, then we get it and it's ridiculous, now they're moving to 'Unity'. The Linux developers haven't got the difference between innovation and insanity. The Mac developers can't tell the difference between an apple and a brick. Microsoft is slightly less insane than the Linux developers.

Since we all know how insane Microsoft is.............. may I ju--FACEPALM.

Quote from: Gabbe on 7 April 2011, 05:27:51

My windows 95 is ruined, because it lacks compatibility with 64-bit processors...

You use windows 95?!

will · « **Reply #86 on:** 7 April 2011, 07:33:57 »

The scheduler on windows is still multi-level feedback queue, whereas linux has (recently) moved to a 'completely fair queue' (there's a whole sad side story in there) and that (in my experience) is a very big deal for general responsiveness.

But the biggest problem with windows is that everyone doesn't have raw naked windows (tinyxp pirates apart); they have windows+preinstalled_addons_and_slowdowns. You can't get a copy of windows from a normal PC retailer without a whole suite of side-installed crapware and this completely directly affects the whole clutter and performance of the machine.

That has to sit right up with the new office ribbon for jarring unpleasant things about using windows.

Oh and the ribbon... having had it for a couple of years now, no I have not 'got to like it' or even 'got used to it'. Whereas them changing the office format can be imagined to be a simple way of getting people to $$upgrade$$ its harder to understand the craziness about changing the UI in such a fundamental and universally disliked way.

Also, windows apps are simply worse-programmed. They make far less use of multi-threading/multi-processing in general and they treat the system as though the user is single-tasking and all resources are theirs to squander. I follow the oldnewthing blog and try and write good windows programs, but I'm fighting against the tide.

Gabbe · « **Reply #87 on:** 7 April 2011, 12:47:24 »

Quote from: -Archmage- on 7 April 2011, 07:20:08

Quote from: Gabbe on 7 April 2011, 05:27:51
My windows 95 is ruined, because it lacks compatibility with 64-bit processors...
You use windows 95?!

aye mate (I learn australian! o.O), best OS ever made, and would still be if it supported new APIs

ElimiNator · « **Reply #88 on:** 7 April 2011, 14:15:34 »

Windows 95 is ancient!

will · « **Reply #89 on:** 7 April 2011, 15:01:55 »

Some of us remember when it was new!

Gabbe · « **Reply #90 on:** 7 April 2011, 15:02:10 »

And great performance wise, heck, it doesn`t need 1GB just for the boot up!

If it had DX11 support i would be using it all day/night long.

John.d.h · « **Reply #91 on:** 7 April 2011, 15:36:59 »

Quote from: will on 7 April 2011, 15:01:55

Some of us remember when it was new!

I do. I was about eight years old.

Ishmaru · « **Reply #92 on:** 7 April 2011, 16:59:40 »

Quote from: Gabbe on 7 April 2011, 15:02:10

And great performance wise, heck, it doesn`t need 1GB just for the boot up! If it had DX11 support i would be using it all day/night long.

windows 95/98 was my favorite generation of OS. I miss my old DOS games. Next would be XP that's what I currently use (aside from my MAC which i want to install xp on) and probably will for the next ten years =P! I did have an windows 3.1 machine as well, and a laptop that just ran DOS. My first computer. Good times...

Gabbe · « **Reply #93 on:** 7 April 2011, 17:28:15 »

So you ran Snowball then if im correct?

I used to use XP, but changed, and now i think that UI just isn`t good at all.

First, windows 95 when i was 4-5 or so, then using windows 2000 untill my mom got her first laptop, it had XP o.O. Then i got my own laptop, an acer aspire something with vista. But it got some errors with backlighting and stuff, then i decided to build off the old 95 machine, and now that is my gaming rig. Thou I only have the harddrive from the 95 machine, the rest is all new stuff

-Archmage- · « **Reply #94 on:** 7 April 2011, 17:31:57 »

I got the snappiest machines of you all. Windows 95? Peh. Are you kidding? Amiga and Commodore 64 for the win!

ultifd · « **Reply #95 on:** 7 April 2011, 21:50:25 »

Quote from: Omega on 7 April 2011, 04:11:46

but nothing beats a dual boot. Who said you can't have your cake and eat it too (catering services excluded).

Yeah, dual boot FTW!

Gabbe · « **Reply #96 on:** 7 April 2011, 22:34:21 »

XP 7 2000 Ubuntu Kubuntu ArchLinux

Fival boot!!

-Archmage- · « **Reply #97 on:** 7 April 2011, 23:16:57 »

That's called quintuple boot, Gabbe.

And cool!

Omega · « **Reply #98 on:** 8 April 2011, 03:57:51 »

Quote from: Gabbe on 7 April 2011, 22:34:21

XP 7 2000 Ubuntu Kubuntu ArchLinux

Fival boot!!

Gotta question the logic of that though. Why even keep 2000? It was completely beat by XP, which is beat by 7 (ask any computer expert. Pretty much all of them now recommend 7, even those who skipped over vista). And why have 3 types of linux? Or at the very least, why Ubuntu and Kubuntu? Seems like you just want more to show off. Do you really use them all?

Ishmaru · « **Reply #99 on:** 8 April 2011, 05:45:31 »

Quote from: Gabbe on 7 April 2011, 17:28:15

So you ran Snowball then if im correct?

excuse my ignorance... Snowball?

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