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Faction Reviews and Ratings.... Submit now!
« on: 5 July 2010, 06:58:36 »
Welcome to the Faction Reviews and Ratings topic! :D

Criteria for ratings:

0-10% Models
0-10% Textures
0-10% Animations
0-10% Sounds
0-10% Music
0-10% Icons
0-10% AI
0-10% Particles
0-10% Balance
0-10% Miscellaneous
0-100% overall rating

Platinum: 95%+
Gold:      80-95 %
Silver:     60-79 %
Bronze:    30-59 %
Stone:     10-29 %
Lead:      0-9 %
Wip:    Unfinished
Abandonware:    Mods that have been abandoned at any stage of development.



Rules(These are up for debate...):
1- You can't do a review on your own mod.
2- You may not judge someones mod based on your personal feelings toward the mod's creator.
3- You may not judge someones review without using logic, reason, and evidence to back up your claims.



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Re: Faction Reviews and Gradings...
« Reply #1 on: 5 July 2010, 16:39:32 »
We should use:

Criteria for ratings:

0-10% Models
0-10% Textures
0-10% Animations
0-10% Sounds
0-10% Music
0-10% Icons
0-10% AI
0-10% Particles
0-10% Balance
0-10% Misc
=0-100% overall rating

Gold:      90 pt
Silver:     60 pt
Bronze:    30 pt
Stone:     10 pt
Wip:    Unfinished
Abandonware:    Mods that have a download but have been abandoned.

And for the look:

Silver:

Cats:
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[url=http://www.filefront.com/game/5909/Catz/]Download[/url] |
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[url=http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CC8QFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FCat&ei=WQoyTKWHNMqFnQe4xbTUAw&usg=AFQjCNE6c7rRcraGyKh1AUX9BWRGXXVP0g&sig2=DJv1P9ZN5dLuXRuELoQ8FA]Discussion[/url]By: Jim dod
Description: This mod includes three factions, Chartreux, Burmilla and Burmese.
Engines supported: MG
Reviews:
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grade: 70
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Re: Faction Reviews and Gradings...
« Reply #2 on: 5 July 2010, 21:42:31 »
A modified and improved system:

Criteria for ratings:

0-15% Models
0-15% Textures
0-15% Animations
0-5% Sounds
0-10% Music
0-5% Icons
0-10% AI
0-10% Particles
0-10% Balance
0-5% Personal feel toward any aspects of the mod...
=0-100% overall rating

Gold:      85-100 pt
Silver:     60-84 pt
Bronze:    30-59 pt
Stone:     10-29 pt
Lead:      0-9 pt
Wip:    Unfinished
Abandonware:    Mods that have been abandoned at any stage of development.



And the updated look:

Kitties:
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[url=http://Download]Download[/url] | [url=http://Discussion]Discussion[/url]Creator:
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[url=http://Bob]Bob[/url]Description: This mod includes three factions, Chartreux, Burmilla and Burmese.
Engines supported:
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[url=http://Glest]Glest[/url],
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[url=http://MegaGlest]MegaGlest[/url]Reviews:
Code: [Select]
[url=http://da-da]da-da[/url] | [url=http://ma-ma]ma-ma[/url]   (When some one posts what they think there is a link to it here)
Rating: GOLD -- 93




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Re: Faction Reviews and Gradings...
« Reply #3 on: 5 July 2010, 23:36:26 »
I think you're really downplaying the importance of sounds and icons.  I don't know if they've been fixed in newer versions, but I remember playing an old release of Military where the icons didn't mean anything (they were just letters that stood for whatever it was), and the sounds were... well... you know.  It made the mod much less enjoyable, compared to what it could be.

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Re: Faction Reviews and Gradings...
« Reply #4 on: 5 July 2010, 23:40:53 »
I think you're really downplaying the importance of sounds and icons.  I don't know if they've been fixed in newer versions, but I remember playing an old release of Military where the icons didn't mean anything (they were just letters that stood for whatever it was), and the sounds were... well... you know.  It made the mod much less enjoyable, compared to what it could be.
The beta, yes. Fortunately, the icons are all unique now. The sounds... I improved all the voices, though the sound affects are the same as the last release. But that's not out yet... Still tidying up the scenarios and gotta bring the tutorials up to snuff.
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Re: Faction Reviews and Gradings...
« Reply #5 on: 6 July 2010, 04:36:48 »
So can I add this to the center now?
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Re: Faction Reviews and Gradings...
« Reply #6 on: 6 July 2010, 13:37:51 »
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I think you're really downplaying the importance of sounds and icons.  I don't know if they've been fixed in newer versions, but I remember playing an old release of Military where the icons didn't mean anything (they were just letters that stood for whatever it was), and the sounds were... well... you know.  It made the mod much less enjoyable, compared to what it could be.

I'm not downplaying sounds and icons, I'm "upplaying" more important things like models, textures, and animations. :|



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There's nothing to add..........
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Re: Faction Reviews and Gradings...
« Reply #7 on: 6 July 2010, 13:44:09 »
There's nothing to add..........
Yah there is, the levels and reviews.
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Re: Faction Reviews and Gradings...
« Reply #8 on: 6 July 2010, 15:03:20 »
There's nothing to add..........
Yah there is, the levels and reviews.

The levels are still being debated, and no one has written any reviews yet...........
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Re: Faction Reviews and Gradings...
« Reply #9 on: 6 July 2010, 18:32:30 »
I'm not downplaying sounds and icons, I'm "upplaying" more important things like models, textures, and animations. :|
I'd say that's really subjective.

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Re: Faction Reviews and Gradings...
« Reply #10 on: 7 July 2010, 01:47:41 »
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I'm not downplaying sounds and icons, I'm "upplaying" more important things like models, textures, and animations. No Opinion
I'd say that's really subjective.

Not really......
For an extreme case:
No models and tons of great quality sounds  or...  Lots of high quality models, with no sound? You have to have models for the game to be playable...........
For a not-so-extreme case:
Few low quality models and a good selection of sounds  or...  Lots of nice models, with poor and few sounds?

Besides from a certain point of view, everything is subjective. :|
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Re: Faction Reviews and Gradings...
« Reply #11 on: 7 July 2010, 02:05:11 »
Honestly, I'd take the one with crappy models but great sound and icons over the one with great models but crappy sound and icons.  Having lousy models makes a model amateurish and lackluster, sure, but bad sounds are almost painful.  There was an RPG I used to play where every time you selected one of your characters, they'd say their selection sound, but they each only had one or two, and after a while it got so annoying that I just disabled the sound.  My point is that neither area is necessarily more important than the other, since it all depends on who you ask and where their priorities are, so that's why I support the 0-10% rating for each area.

On another note, how should we score an area that is just a compilation of stuff from other mods?  Give it a 0?  Give a 5 (neither good nor bad)?  I guess the question is: Should "nothing new" count as better or worse than "new, but horrible"?

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Re: Faction Reviews and Gradings...
« Reply #12 on: 7 July 2010, 02:32:04 »
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Honestly, I'd take the one with crappy models but great sound and icons over the one with great models but crappy sound and icons.  Having lousy models makes a model amateurish and lackluster, sure, but bad sounds are almost painful.  There was an RPG I used to play where every time you selected one of your characters, they'd say their selection sound, but they each only had one or two, and after a while it got so annoying that I just disabled the sound.  My point is that neither area is necessarily more important than the other, since it all depends on who you ask and where their priorities are, so that's why I support the 0-10% rating for each area.

I see, so the issue is pretty much resolved. Any objections to this:
Criteria for ratings:

0-10% Models
0-10% Textures
0-10% Animations
0-10% Sounds
0-10% Music
0-10% Icons
0-10% AI
0-10% Particles
0-10% Balance
0-10% Personal feel toward any aspects of the mod...
=0-100% overall rating

Platinum: 95%+
Gold:      85-95 %
Silver:     60-84 %
Bronze:    30-59 %
Stone:     10-29 %
Lead:      0-9 %
Wip:    Unfinished
Abandonware:    Mods that have been abandoned at any stage of development.

My little Platinum edition is supposed to be very special, and maybe the Creator of the mod that recieved a Platinum rating could be given the Community Award for the month as well. :D
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Re: Faction Reviews and Gradings...
« Reply #13 on: 7 July 2010, 02:42:13 »
I was going to have lead be higher than stone because it's a metal, but then I thought about it and remembered that lead is mildly toxic (and causes brain damage), so that fits. ;D

I see, so the issue is pretty much resolved. Any objections to this:
Criteria for ratings:

0-10% Models
0-10% Textures
0-10% Animations
0-10% Sounds
0-10% Music
0-10% Icons
0-10% AI
0-10% Particles
0-10% Balance
0-10% Personal feel toward any aspects of the mod...
=0-100% overall rating

Platinum: 95%+
Gold:      85-95 %
Silver:     60-84 %
Bronze:    30-59 %
Stone:     10-29 %
Lead:      0-9 %
Wip:    Unfinished
Abandonware:    Mods that have been abandoned at any stage of development.

My little Platinum edition is supposed to be very special, and maybe the Creator of the mod that recieved a Platinum rating could be given the Community Award for the month as well. :D
Looks good to me, except I'd rather go with "Miscellaneous", rather than "personal feelings", as it gives the grader a kind of "anything else we didn't think of category".  I had initially envisioned the gold/silver/bronze system to be separate from the ABC grading, and only recognizing how much original work was in the mod, but now that I think about it, if it's just a patchwork of other people's assets, it's going to get a crappy rating anyway and it will all work itself out. :thumbup:

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Re: Faction Reviews and Gradings...
« Reply #14 on: 7 July 2010, 03:15:01 »
I was going to have lead be higher than stone because it's a metal, but then I thought about it and remembered that lead is mildly toxic (and causes brain damage), so that fits. ;D

I see, so the issue is pretty much resolved. Any objections to this:
Criteria for ratings:

0-10% Models
0-10% Textures
0-10% Animations
0-10% Sounds
0-10% Music
0-10% Icons
0-10% AI
0-10% Particles
0-10% Balance
0-10% Personal feel toward any aspects of the mod...
=0-100% overall rating

Platinum: 95%+
Gold:      85-95 %
Silver:     60-84 %
Bronze:    30-59 %
Stone:     10-29 %
Lead:      0-9 %
Wip:    Unfinished
Abandonware:    Mods that have been abandoned at any stage of development.

My little Platinum edition is supposed to be very special, and maybe the Creator of the mod that recieved a Platinum rating could be given the Community Award for the month as well. :D
Looks good to me, except I'd rather go with "Miscellaneous", rather than "personal feelings", as it gives the grader a kind of "anything else we didn't think of category".  I had initially envisioned the gold/silver/bronze system to be separate from the ABC grading, and only recognizing how much original work was in the mod, but now that I think about it, if it's just a patchwork of other people's assets, it's going to get a crappy rating anyway and it will all work itself out. :thumbup:

Sounds good. :) :thumbup:

UPDATE: I've updated the first post. One last question: Should I unsticky this and have people post reviews in the FDC, or should we keep this up, to more specifically direct people?
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« Reply #15 on: 7 July 2010, 05:21:54 »
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We should use:

Criteria for ratings:

0-10% Models
0-10% Textures
0-10% Animations
0-10% Sounds
0-10% Music
0-10% Icons
0-10% AI
0-10% Particles
0-10% Balance
0-10% Misc
=0-100% overall rating

Gold:      90 pt
Silver:     60 pt
Bronze:    30 pt
Stone:     10 pt
Wip:    Unfinished
Abandonware:    Mods that have a download but have been abandoned.

And for the look:

Silver:

Cats:
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[url=http://www.filefront.com/game/5909/Catz/]Download[/url] | [url=http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CC8QFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FCat&ei=WQoyTKWHNMqFnQe4xbTUAw&usg=AFQjCNE6c7rRcraGyKh1AUX9BWRGXXVP0g&sig2=DJv1P9ZN5dLuXRuELoQ8FA]Discussion[/url]By: Jim dod
Description: This mod includes three factions, Chartreux, Burmilla and Burmese.
Engines supported: MG
Reviews:
Code: [Select]
[url=http://kiko]kiko[/url] | [url=http://brian]brian[/url]   (When some one posts what they think there is a link to it here)
grade: 70
So is this ok?
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« Reply #16 on: 7 July 2010, 06:09:13 »
Elim, check the first post.

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We should use:

Criteria for ratings:

0-10% Models
0-10% Textures
0-10% Animations
0-10% Sounds
0-10% Music
0-10% Icons
0-10% AI
0-10% Particles
0-10% Balance
0-10% Misc
=0-100% overall rating

Gold:      90 pt
Silver:     60 pt
Bronze:    30 pt
Stone:     10 pt
Wip:    Unfinished
Abandonware:    Mods that have a download but have been abandoned.

And for the look:

Silver:

Cats:
Code: [Select]
[url=http://www.filefront.com/game/5909/Catz/]Download[/url] | [url=http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CC8QFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FCat&ei=WQoyTKWHNMqFnQe4xbTUAw&usg=AFQjCNE6c7rRcraGyKh1AUX9BWRGXXVP0g&sig2=DJv1P9ZN5dLuXRuELoQ8FA]Discussion[/url]By: Jim dod
Description: This mod includes three factions, Chartreux, Burmilla and Burmese.
Engines supported: MG
Reviews:
Code: [Select]
[url=http://kiko]kiko[/url] | [url=http://brian]brian[/url]   (When some one posts what they think there is a link to it here)
grade: 70
So is this ok?

In terms of the debate, yes.
In terms of writing reviews, the more updated version is on the first post, so no, not really.
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« Reply #17 on: 7 July 2010, 16:30:38 »
OK, Ill update the FDC, you can un-sticky and lock it now.
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« Reply #18 on: 8 July 2010, 22:39:44 »
No actually, I've changed my mind on this, this is definitely the proper place to post reviews, so I'm gonna put this back up.

Elim, this is NOT the criteria:
Code: [Select]
We should use:

Criteria for ratings:

0-10% Models
0-10% Textures
0-10% Animations
0-10% Sounds
0-10% Music
0-10% Icons
0-10% AI
0-10% Particles
0-10% Balance
0-10% Misc
=0-100% overall rating

Gold:      90 pt
Silver:     60 pt
Bronze:    30 pt
Stone:     10 pt
Wip:    Unfinished
Abandonware:    Mods that have a download but have been abandoned.
And for the look:

Silver:
Cats:
Download | Discussion
By: Jim dod
Description: This mod includes three factions, Chartreux, Burmilla and Burmese.
Engines supported: MG
Reviews: kiko | brian   (When some one posts what they think there is a link to it here)
grade: 70

This is:
Code: [Select]
Criteria for ratings:

0-10% Models
0-10% Textures
0-10% Animations
0-10% Sounds
0-10% Music
0-10% Icons
0-10% AI
0-10% Particles
0-10% Balance
0-10% Miscellaneous
=0-100% overall rating

Platinum: 95%+
Gold:      85-95 %
Silver:     60-84 %
Bronze:    30-59 %
Stone:     10-29 %
Lead:      0-9 %
Wip:    Unfinished
Abandonware:    Mods that have been abandoned at any stage of development.
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« Reply #19 on: 9 July 2010, 05:12:02 »
I disagree. We can put them all in one topic. At the very least, if this topic is only used to have links from the download topic for ratings (in short, this topic only holds the reviews/ratings), then it can be unstickied. After all, we don't want to have too many stickied topics...

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« Reply #20 on: 9 July 2010, 05:18:19 »
1- Unsticky it, 1 is enough.
2- There is no Platinum or lead, I don't want that many levels.
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« Reply #21 on: 9 July 2010, 11:06:04 »
I disagree. We can put them all in one topic. At the very least, if this topic is only used to have links from the download topic for ratings (in short, this topic only holds the reviews/ratings), then it can be unstickied. After all, we don't want to have too many stickied topics...

Agree/Disagree?

Reviews and Ratings are not that unimportant. :|
Jamming everything together gives confusion not order, besides how much space does one more topic take up?
Very well, I'll un-sticky this and put a nice obvious link in the FDC.



1- Unsticky it, 1 is enough.
2- There is no Platinum or lead, I don't want that many levels.

1- Read above.
2- Lead fits in perfectly, and platinum gives people the almost impossible rating to shoot for. Gold is nothing special to shoot for, because I have a feeling that quite a few mods will be recieving gold ratings whether they deserve even lead or not. Besides you can't just decide that, based on "I don't want that many levels", because my response will be: 1- You don't hold any power to make that decision. 2- The people decide not you. 3- I think you're outnumbered on this. You're the only one with these picky objections.
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« Reply #22 on: 9 July 2010, 13:37:45 »
I'm agreeing with Archmage on this one. ;) ;), there would be too few levels and without platinum gold would be 80-100 percent, I think, which would encompass a lot of mods

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« Reply #23 on: 9 July 2010, 16:44:43 »
OK, then post a poll:

Yes platinum yes lead
Yes platinum no lead
No platinum no lead
No platinum yes lead
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« Reply #24 on: 9 July 2010, 16:58:05 »
You gotta give me a good logical reason or I'm not listening, k. :|

I'm not putting a poll up, because if someones too lazy to voice their opinion here about such a trivial matter, but not to lazy for a poll on a trivial matter, then either they don't care or I don't care to hear their opinion.

Why are you so anxious to wipe out these levels? :|
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