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xzalion

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Success!!!
« on: 13 July 2010, 10:02:06 »
Hey all.

Here is my site http://eaglelore.com/ it's still not ready yet!  But it will be soon,  Hope you enjoy it.

Cheers

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Re: Success!!!
« Reply #1 on: 13 July 2010, 14:06:09 »
Sweet ;D ;D :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Re: Success!!!
« Reply #2 on: 13 July 2010, 14:37:00 »
Sweet ;D ;D :thumbup: :thumbup:

Thanks.  in the few weeks ahead! i plan just to make a new section just for Glest ... How cool is that  :O

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« Reply #3 on: 13 July 2010, 15:23:34 »
GREAT!!!! :O Glest advertisements always good :thumbup: :thumbup: ;D ;D

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Re: Success!!!
« Reply #4 on: 13 July 2010, 16:12:20 »
Great but the sight is king of big. I have to scroll over to see the whole button.
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« Reply #5 on: 13 July 2010, 16:17:13 »
true but still cool

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« Reply #6 on: 13 July 2010, 16:21:05 »
Great but the sight is king of big. I have to scroll over to see the whole button.

Everything today is big!!! :O

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« Reply #7 on: 13 July 2010, 16:30:13 »
VERY BIG :O :O :O :O :O :O

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« Reply #8 on: 13 July 2010, 16:37:54 »
VERY BIG :O :O :O :O :O :O

The main issue is!  I own a Samsung 22 wide screen!  & my site was made on that!  People with a small screen must scroll to see more stuff on the site ... Which is not a train smash!  We live in 2010 right?  if so  please guys please  upgrade to modern tech!   You don't know what you miss  :O   :O   :O   :O

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Re: Success!!!
« Reply #9 on: 13 July 2010, 16:52:52 »
Yah guys, I'm tired of seeing these tiny little websites just because someone might have a small monitor. :|
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Re: Success!!!
« Reply #10 on: 13 July 2010, 17:31:53 »
Yah guys, I'm tired of seeing these tiny little websites just because someone might have a small monitor. :|

I'll soon  will make my site more functional!   Just busy with the Tag sections.  Once Done i'll add Glest

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« Reply #11 on: 13 July 2010, 18:08:15 »
Congratulations!
Try to think of others who don't have a widescreen...monitor. Make it option able or something at least.  :|

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« Reply #12 on: 13 July 2010, 19:01:47 »
Congratulations!
Try to think of others who don't have a widescreen...monitor. Make it option able or something at least.  :|

I would love to!  but i can't  :(

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Re: Success!!!
« Reply #13 on: 13 July 2010, 21:25:35 »
It shouldn't be that hard to apply a liquid or gel layout.  I understand if you've got more pressing matters, though.

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« Reply #14 on: 13 July 2010, 22:47:27 »
It shouldn't be that hard to apply a liquid or gel layout.  I understand if you've got more pressing matters, though.

I've been working my ass off!  Here is the re mod web for your screens!  hope this one works better! http://eaglelore.com/

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Re: Success!!!
« Reply #15 on: 14 July 2010, 02:08:59 »
The whole thing is huge images for backgrounds... Bad idea my friend. Let me give you a few web design pointers:

  • Gradients should be done by a 1*x image and then it can be repeated horizontally. For a vertical gradient, it's just switched. ie: a 3000*1px image can be tiled horizontally (by default, it is tiled both horizontally and vertically. If you need say, just horizontally, the css tag 'background-repeat: repeat-x;' can do that.
  • If you want smooth borders, such as the rounded borders of the old Glest Guide (which is still online, since the newer version is still a WIP), you should use a table with small images to make this. ie: a 3*3 table. The first cell is a curved image for the corner, the second is the straight part of the top (which is only 1px thick, using the same horizontal repeat as above), and so on... The inside is a 1*1px image tiled to give it a background (though you can simply set a solid background color unless you plan on using any alpha in it, in which case an image should be used because IE does not support rgba(x,x,x,x). This method also ensures the content holder resizes to its content, not being a fixed size of an image.
  • It may also be a good idea to forget about "Serif WebPlus Starter Edition" and go with good ol' fashion HTML (tons of tutorials online). Not only would you require such knowledge to do what I mentioned above, but if you view the source of your page (ie: open it up in a text editor such as notepad++), you'll see how terribly messy these things are. It adds numerous bad classes, and as you can see, it's not valid HTML (11 errors, 1 warning).

But hey, its a start. Happy, er, designing.
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Re: Success!!!
« Reply #16 on: 14 July 2010, 06:57:41 »
OK

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« Reply #17 on: 27 July 2010, 16:07:55 »
Now the website is small....you updated=?

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« Reply #18 on: 28 July 2010, 01:57:52 »
Not bad. It's a bit better than before, though still in need of actual info.

I would actually not recommend a visit counter, because (1) they can be very easily faked, (2) are inaccurate, I refreshed the page 5 times to get counted more :D, and (3) they are more amateurish (you'll never see a professional site with one. They are usually restricted to blog posts, family sites, and my high school teachers. :P

Also, have you looked at how messy this is?

WC3 HTML Validator Failed: 10 errors, 1 warning
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« Reply #20 on: 29 July 2010, 03:03:08 »
I can guarentee you it is accurate Gabbe. Why can I guartentee this? Because WC3 CREATED HTML. They are the head honchos, the top of the food chain. Of course, they are also very strict. Let me explain part of it with using google.com as an example:

The first note is that google checks for HTML 5 compatibilities, which is currently a very new reign (which I am having fun learning), supported only by firefox and webkit browsers such as safari, each only to some degree. NO browser has it completely implimented, so WC3 notes the user of that.

The first error is about encoding type. Google checks for your browser and operating systems when you use the site, so it can deliver accurate character sets. Of course, this is not a universal character set, and is really meant for windows, since it is NOT a standardized (notice it's not an iso) charset, thus WC3 raises a flag.

Secondly, because google is using strict syntax in HTML 5, the table tag and all its child tags (td, tr, th) are technically depreciated, in favour of moving to div tags with CSS. Most people, me included, have not fully made this transition. The main downside to table tags that provoked them to move away from them is that a web browser must read the entire table tag (all the way to its closing tag) and cannot render anything until it has the entire table (because even a slight change in the very last tr tag can affect the whole table). Tables actually have to be read through twice, once for the tags and once to render the data. CSS is a lot harder and more complex coding, but allows linear rendering. Of course, table tags are slightly more compatible, since VERY old browsers do not support CSS well.

There's also various attributes that google uses, presumably for compatiblity (as I said, older browsers cannot use CSS that well), such as bgcolor, which are best done as a css style (either as a class/id and referencing that in an external CSS, using an entire tag in an external CSS, or by means of the style attribute). For example, an inline css tag for bgcolor would be style="background-color: #fff".

Another common error is that Google frequently links to links with GET values (everything after the ? is really a variable, with the variable name on one side of the equal sign, and the variable data on the other, then with the & sign separating variables. Of course, this was ONLY originally meant for forms, so when sites use those variables, such as for a CGI or PHP script to read (this is how they store your search data), so google raises a flag there. Instead, & signs that appear normally in the text are used to make special symbols, such as &lt; being '<'. Fortunately, links are not affected by these symbols, so it is fine to use them for this, and with common place techniques such as URL redirects with PHP/CGI scripts using these variables, its not a huge deal.

Lastly, for some reason, google does not close its script tag at the end of the file. Most likely this was negelected, purposely (because of server generated data) or accidently because of a overlook by the coder. That's actually one of the biggest errors on the page, but most, if not all, browsers detect and fix this client side, though it is still bad coding.



Now, many sites use "bad" coding practice because the new standards are either more difficult to use or aren't so well on very old browsers. So what is an example of a good site? Check the index of the forum board! There is ONE error and that is totally my fault (I forgot the type attribute when I made some javascript for the automatically updating clock in the top right corner of the theme, and will have to fix this for the next version in order to maintain the XHTML logo at the very bottom of the page (this logo shows we passed this verification)).

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Re: Success!!!
« Reply #21 on: 29 July 2010, 16:16:55 »
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Re: Success!!!
« Reply #22 on: 10 August 2010, 07:17:27 »
Hmm, xzalion, are you updating the site right now? All there is right now is...not much.
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