Author Topic: Showing the faction's symbol during selection [Implemented v0.3.2] (Read 6232 times)

Zoythrus · « **on:** 30 September 2010, 03:00:34 »

i had two ideas that are pretty similar:

1. during the screen before a game (faction select, map, rules, etc), i think that there should be the faction's logo next to their name. this would be a purely cosmetic idea, but it would make it look more official.

2. you know the rings around units (health bars), i think they should be overridden if you have a faction logo. you would just put a picture that has been fully alpha'd, and it would show beneath the units (and would brighten or darken with damage). this is also purely cosmetic, but it would look cooler...

John.d.h · « **Reply #1 on:** 30 September 2010, 03:58:15 »

The first sounds kinda cool, but GAE is already planning on nicking the image loaders from MG, so it's kind of already covered. How would the second one not be completely awful?

Zoythrus · « **Reply #2 on:** 30 September 2010, 03:59:53 »

well, it would show the faction logo (which looks cool), and adds some personality and diversity to the factions.

maybe we can make the logos team color?

ChupaReaper · « **Reply #3 on:** 30 September 2010, 14:36:21 »

I was thinking about #1 on the bus the other day but forgot to suggest it lol, I think it would be really good to show faction logos during the game start up menu and the game over screen.
As for #2, imagine hundreds of units selected all with their faction logo underneath them rather than the health ring it would a bit crowded. The faction logo could be placed somewhere in game, maybe when units are selected in the GUI their faction logo could be shown somewhere.

John.d.h · « **Reply #4 on:** 30 September 2010, 14:48:29 »

Quote from: ChupaReaper on 30 September 2010, 14:36:21

The faction logo could be placed somewhere in game, maybe when units are selected in the GUI their faction logo could be shown somewhere.

Glest's UI is really uncluttered. I would like to keep it that way.

Psychedelic_hands · « **Reply #5 on:** 30 September 2010, 14:53:02 »

What about having the Logo being shown in box where the unit info is?..... but only when there are no units selected of course.

Anyone agree?

John.d.h · « **Reply #6 on:** 30 September 2010, 15:29:11 »

Quote from: Psychedelic_hands on 30 September 2010, 14:53:02

What about having the Logo being shown in box where the unit info is?..... but only when there are no units selected of course.

Anyone agree?

Down with clutter.

Psychedelic_hands · « **Reply #7 on:** 30 September 2010, 16:33:05 »

It really wouldn't clutter, I mean... the place it would go is usually filled up anyway.

ChupaReaper · « **Reply #8 on:** 30 September 2010, 20:00:46 »

Perhaps there could be a setting for displaying faction symbols in game so you can disable it in the options. As I'd like to see the symbols somewhere, one symbol wouldn't clutter things up much and it would add more to the feel of playing the faction but if you disagree then the option to disable it is there.

Zoythrus · « **Reply #9 on:** 30 September 2010, 20:50:47 »

Quote from: ChupaReaper on 30 September 2010, 20:00:46

Perhaps there could be a setting for displaying faction symbols in game so you can disable it in the options. As I'd like to see the symbols somewhere, one symbol wouldn't clutter things up much and it would add more to the feel of playing the faction but if you disagree then the option to disable it is there.

this i can agree with...

silnarm · « **Reply #10 on:** 1 October 2010, 05:33:48 »

For 1. I think there is agreement, will add a ticket.

For 2. In it's original form I agree with john/chuppa, too much for every selected unit, with bigger selection size already (24) and unlimited coming...
I think Psychedelic_hands' idea of using the display panel when nothing is selected (in it's 'compact mode') would be really cool, will make it optional, but true by default (if the faction provides such an image, that is).

Zoythrus · « **Reply #11 on:** 1 October 2010, 16:26:53 »

Does this mean that the Tech and Magic will be given logos too?

John.d.h · « **Reply #12 on:** 1 October 2010, 20:52:36 »

Quote from: Zoythrus on 1 October 2010, 16:26:53

Does this mean that the Tech and Magic will be given logos too?

Sounds like we have a volunteer.

Zoythrus · « **Reply #13 on:** 1 October 2010, 23:00:23 »

Quote from: John.d.h on 1 October 2010, 20:52:36

Quote from: Zoythrus on 1 October 2010, 16:26:53
Does this mean that the Tech and Magic will be given logos too?
Sounds like we have a volunteer.

i hate you...

well, i have no artistic talent, so anything that i make will suck...and i mean really bad...

silnarm · « **Reply #14 on:** 5 October 2010, 13:58:13 »

Ticket #216. Magitech doesn't really need them, they will of course be optional.

Psychedelic_hands · « **Reply #15 on:** 23 October 2010, 05:06:06 »

I'd just like to point out that tech does have a logo...... as seen on here:

http://glest.org/images/galeria/personajes/battle_machine.jpg

I've noticed it on a few units...

Zoythrus · « **Reply #16 on:** 23 October 2010, 06:36:22 »

good point, i had forgotten about the gear! now, does the Magic have a logo?

Psychedelic_hands · « **Reply #17 on:** 23 October 2010, 09:51:21 »

Well the battlemage has this thing on it..... http://glest.org/images/galeria/personajes/battlemage.jpg

But that's the only place I've seen that.

silnarm · « **Reply #18 on:** 23 October 2010, 12:45:36 »

As always, some interesting issues popped up as soon as I started on this... I wanted transparency and also team colour... obviously I couldn't use the alpha channel for team colour, so at the moment the three colour channels are averaged and then multiplied in with the team colour.

How do you guys want this to work? Maybe I should make this system an option, with another that doesn't use team colour at all, or uses the alpha channel for it ? ?

Omega · « **Reply #19 on:** 24 October 2010, 00:28:35 »

What about a technique I've seen some other games use? They have a set color, usually a bright pink, that is the transparency, and it becomes replaced with the transparency in game. Only downside to it is that you can't have anti-aliasing...

silnarm · « **Reply #20 on:** 24 October 2010, 02:13:25 »

Quote from: Omega on 24 October 2010, 00:28:35

What about a technique I've seen some other games use? They have a set color, usually a bright pink, that is the transparency, and it becomes replaced with the transparency in game. Only downside to it is that you can't have anti-aliasing...

I did think of that, but that's effectively single bit transparency as you pointed out, which is not so nice...

Omega · « **Reply #21 on:** 25 October 2010, 00:02:13 »

Indeed. Personally, I'd rather see a non team colour image than one that wouldn't be able to have AA.

Another idea (abet, more complex, but solves the AA problem):
Use a monochrome image where pure black = full transparency, while pure white = full teamcolor (opaque). Thus, greys could cause AA. No way to set explicitly how dark or how light the team color should be, though you can specify the how transparent the part is, which gives the illusion of volume. This should be possible, as I've seen other games do it, as well, it's a very common method for terrain rendering. Probably very complex to code though.

wyvern · « **Reply #22 on:** 25 October 2010, 19:03:57 »

tech should have the thing they have on aircraft and walkers as a symbol, (the targetting cross)

ChupaReaper · « **Reply #23 on:** 25 October 2010, 19:18:42 »

I'd like all the options open, the alpha channel for alpha and some trick where it is converted to team colour should be optional. Or can you use extra channels in TGA or a separate greyscale image to act as a team colour map.

John.d.h · « **Reply #24 on:** 25 October 2010, 19:26:17 »

Quote from: Wyvern on 25 October 2010, 19:03:57

tech should have the thing they have on aircraft and walkers as a symbol, (the targetting cross)

Err... you mean the gear?

News:

Author Topic: Showing the faction's symbol during selection [Implemented v0.3.2] (Read 6232 times)

Zoythrus

Zoythrus

ChupaReaper

Psychedelic_hands

Psychedelic_hands

ChupaReaper

Zoythrus

Zoythrus

Zoythrus

Psychedelic_hands

Zoythrus

Psychedelic_hands

wyvern

ChupaReaper