Oh wow, lots of updates!
Hmm, Can anyone show me some statistics of Vegetarians health status and Normal[meat and other stuff]peoples health status + Massive meat[and some other stuff] eaters health status?
Sure.
http://www.vegsource.com/news/2009/09/how-to-win-an-argument-with-a-meat-eater.html#cancerIncreased risk of breast cancer for women who eat meat daily compared to less than once a week: 3.8 times
For women who eat eggs daily compared to once a week: 2.8 times
For women who eat butter and cheese 2-4 times a week: 3.25 times
Increased risk of fatal ovarian cancer for women who eat eggs 3 or more times a week vs. less than once a week: 3 times
Increased risk of fatal prostate cancer for men who consume meat, cheese, eggs and milk daily vs. sparingly or not at all: 3.6 times.
http://www.vegsource.com/news/2009/09/how-to-win-an-argument-with-a-meat-eater.html#cholesterolAverage U.S. man's risk of death from heart attack: 50 percent
Risk of average U.S. man who eats no meat: 15 percent
Risk of average U.S. man who eats no meat, dairy or eggs: 4 percent
Amount you reduce risk of heart attack if you reduce consumption of meat, dairy and eggs by 10 percent: 9 percent
Amount you reduce risk of heart attack if you reduce consumption by 50 percent: 45 percent
Amount you reduce risk if you eliminate meat, dairy and eggs from your diet: 90 percent
Average cholesterol level of people eating meat-centered-diet: 210 mg/dl
Chance of dying from heart disease if you are male and your blood cholesterol level is 210 mg/dl: greater than 50 percent
Meat and cheese are the two best foods and they come from animals.
Define "best".
If people like to eat leaves and roots thats up to them, but I would consider it a kind of "starvation food" to be eaten when nothing else is available. The vegetarians that I know are always pale looking and frequently ill apart from one who is actually obese!.
Okay, so most of the vegetarians you know are pale and sickly. Most of the omnivores I know are overweight or obese and have high cholesterol and high blood pressure, as most of them in my nation are (and yours is right behind us). Omnivores don't have to be fat and veg'ns don't have to be scrawny. Just ask world champion bodybuilder
Bill Pearl, American football hall-of-famer
Joe Namath, basketball hall-of-famer
Robert Parish, six-time Iron Man winner
Dave Scott, or nine-time olympic gold medal winner
Carl Lewis.
John's comparison of eating meat and smoking is ridiculous, you need to eat to live, you do not need to smoke to live.
You do need to eat to live, but you certainly don't need to eat flesh. I don't think my comparison was unfair at all. They're two behaviors that increase the users' risk of disease (heart disease, cancer) while shortening their life span and negatively affecting the health of others (second hand smoke vs. ground water contamination and SARS).
Life is about living, not depriving yourself of things in an attempt to get get a couple of extra years mindlessly crapping yourself in a retirement home. I enjoy eating meat and if it isnt good for me (which it actually is) then so be it. TBH if I died choking on a Kobe steak with Stilton sauce then I'd die a very happy man 
Live fast, die young, leave a
pretty bloated corpse?
You dont need to eat meat to live, i was vegetarian from i was 10 till 14, that period i never got ill, but my buddy who always ate hot dogs, idk if you call it that but..sausage wht ever, pigs stuff, and he got fat now..
Exactly.
Government should not dictate how we should live our lives. Freedom means we are allowed to make the wrong choices and suffer the consequences of those actions. Drugs, HIV and prostitution have ruined millions and millions of lives and killed far more people than happy meals ever will.
What would happen if we all lived in Meatifornia and governor McArnold passed a law where all vegetarians were required to eat at least 300 grams of meat a day, does that sound like freedom or authoritarianism?
I do see where you're coming from, and I can't say that I
completely disagree, but one of the responsibilities we've laid upon the government is taking dangerous products off the market in order to protect the consumer. That's the entire purpose of the FDA, for example. When there's hepatitis in our spinach, the government takes it off the shelves so we don't eat it. This is less "hey consumers, you can't eat that", and more "hey producer, you can't market that garbage to our kids". That's how I feel about it anyway.
