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« on: 23 November 2010, 11:27:01 »
if you dont mind me saying. raiden was also a japanese vetren plane during world war 2. it was a very powerfull plane. armoured and able to carry 250 IB bombs.

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« Reply #1 on: 23 November 2010, 20:53:24 »
Raiden sounds good. :thumbup:
Jolly good :D .

if you dont mind me saying. raiden was also a japanese vetren plane during world war 2. it was a very powerfull plane. armoured and able to carry 250 IB bombs.
Wow,amazed :o good guess.meziyan!
actually,all the names in the list are japanese plane names(mostly fighters).
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« Reply #2 on: 23 November 2010, 21:40:33 »
yeah I noticed, the hien was the ki-61 with a german engine, the suisei was a dive bomber the number was D4Y, I think, the hayabusa was the ki-43 the, the reppu was supposed to be the A6m's replacement, I think it was to be the A7m, the other names are also familiar aircraft though now I'm posting completely off topic,

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« Reply #3 on: 25 November 2010, 07:20:03 »
wait shenden sounds famaliar. is it spelled "shinden"? because shinden was a late made japanese aircraft that is completley used by aces. and it was a very strange looking plane :o it was light. and very agile and fast.

wheres the zero plane? ;)

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« Reply #4 on: 25 November 2010, 09:49:10 »
yeah I noticed, the hien was the ki-61 with a german engine, the suisei was a dive bomber the number was D4Y, I think, the hayabusa was the ki-43 the, the reppu was supposed to be the A6m's replacement, I think it was to be the A7m, the other names are also familiar aircraft though now I'm posting completely off topic,
Exactly. :thumbup:

wait shenden sounds famaliar. is it spelled "shinden"? because shinden was a late made japanese aircraft that is completley used by aces. and it was a very strange looking plane :o it was light. and very agile and fast.

wheres the zero plane? ;)
Shiden(violet lightning) and Shinden(quaking lightning) is separate aircraft.I know their names are very confusing in alphabet. :O yeah Shinden had very unique appearance and it was pusher configuration aircraft which very rare at that time.
type zero fighter didn't have official nick name,it only had code name like A6Mx - though people called it Zerosen  affectionately -.

hmn,maybe our conversation should move into off-topic thread like "talking about WWII aircrafts". :|

Done. - Omega
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« Reply #5 on: 26 November 2010, 09:04:09 »
say what would be the best plane in WW2 history? i cheer for luftwaffe. the zero was also called a war wonder.

and imagine a wilcat plane squad duel with 2 zeros. whatcould happen?

and also i love the oscar japanese planes. they are agile and cool and top speed. with its speed it will easily outmenouevre the allied planes and chase its tail

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« Reply #6 on: 26 November 2010, 20:12:43 »
wow It's diligence moderator work,like japanese(except me! :O).thank you sir!

say what would be the best plane in WW2 history? i cheer for luftwaffe. the zero was also called a war wonder.

and imagine a wilcat plane squad duel with 2 zeros. whatcould happen?

and also i love the oscar japanese planes. they are agile and cool and top speed. with its speed it will easily outmenouevre the allied planes and chase its tail
I cheer for luftwaffe too.they had best airplanes during WWII.
I love their planes(and ofcourse all japanese aircrafts!).



Me109 had fought entire the war from Spanish Civil War to fall of Berlin.
Many top aces fought with this plane!Me109's design which composed from mostly straight lines is a contrast from japanese aircraft designs.but I also love it.Very stylish!


Fw190A8! Simply powerful!Who can stand against it's four 20mm cannons and double 12.7mm guns?


and Me262!probably the only turbo-jet fighter fought in the war!
If there was not Hitler's poor order,It's appeared in the war more earlier,and would shoot down boeings like turkey! ;D


hmn,oscar!Nakajima type one fighter.It's a beautiful airplane.and very very agile!probably more agile than Zero-fighter.but It's top speed was not so fast,if compared with later powerful allied planes.It's mobility didn't help fight against allied hit-and-away tactics. :'( and I regret for It's poor armament(only two-guns).but When true aces used this plane,It displayed outstanding performance!good plane anyway. :thumbup:
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« Reply #7 on: 27 November 2010, 09:10:37 »
i heard of a squad with a bunch of oscars attempted an assult on a huge allid caravan of suply ships. the defending allied planes fell on after another. and then they rush the transporters.

zeros continued to be elite till the end of war. it lived its lengthy glory shooting down allied squadrons and escoting bombers and protecting ship and attacking KAMIKAZE. it had no limit at all. in the later periods. it expanded into brand new versions. it can take out huge numbers of allied fighters by itself with ease. it was light as a feather and a very powerful gun. it was abit lacking in its armour. but with its speed. what can shoot it?

the war forced sevrel planes to expand over the time. a race to elimnate the other side with new planes with better feul tanks and armament and armour and all-round stats.

correct. jet planes were first invented in germeny. hitler shared his secrets with japan and gifted some of the few avilable fighters...

SPIT that on the british spitfire and USA hellcats

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« Reply #8 on: 29 November 2010, 20:04:14 »
i heard of a squad with a bunch of oscars attempted an assult on a huge allid caravan of suply ships. the defending allied planes fell on after another. and then they rush the transporters.

zeros continued to be elite till the end of war. it lived its lengthy glory shooting down allied squadrons and escoting bombers and protecting ship and attacking KAMIKAZE. it had no limit at all. in the later periods. it expanded into brand new versions. it can take out huge numbers of allied fighters by itself with ease. it was light as a feather and a very powerful gun. it was abit lacking in its armour. but with its speed. what can shoot it?

the war forced sevrel planes to expand over the time. a race to elimnate the other side with new planes with better feul tanks and armament and armour and all-round stats.

correct. jet planes were first invented in germeny. hitler shared his secrets with japan and gifted some of the few avilable fighters...

SPIT that on the british spitfire and USA hellcats
I beg to differ, the spitfire was a great plane and due to its larger size could undergo greater changes then the me 109, the hellcat was admittedly a poor fighter but it was better then nearly anything the japanese had sue to its good speed and armour, despite what is commonly said the Me 262 was beaten as the first jet aircraft in service by the gloster meteor, the p-38's slaughtered the escorts covering Yamamoto using dive and run tactics that used their greater speed to escape the japanese zeros, plus the zero sacrifices armor which means, get scratched be a .50 cal and your on fire, in fact the copilot in a C-47 transport shot a zero down with a BAR1918(Browning Automatic Rifle)The most versatile plane was the mosquito or ju 88 in my opinion, both served as fighters bombers and recon planes not to mention the ju-88 as a torpedo bomber and the mosquito as a precision path finder. The Oscar by the way was considered to be a poor airplane by most allied fighter pilots even the russians flying ancient i-16s in the manchurian incident, the zeros engine by the way was lacking in power, it was very maneuverable but lacked payload capacity and its 20mm cannons were pretty slow flying it was not as good a fighter as you are depicting it to be, its success can also be attributed to the fact that it fought older unwanted fighters and not the modern equipment fighting the germans. Also the me 262 suffered breakdowns and killed as many of its pilots as of the enemy, it was not maneuvarable and its cannons were inaccurate and tended to jam. The thing with the wildcat vs. zero duel it depends on the tactics of the pilots the zeros would gut the wildcats in a turning fight but if caught in hit and run tactics the wildcats would probably come out on top. The mosquito was amazing and so was the typhoon, spitfire, and firefly. the corsair is a wonderful plane that was one of the best as was the p-38 p-47 p-51 and p-61. The brits were amazing ;D

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« Reply #9 on: 30 November 2010, 05:03:09 »
corsair is good at its time only. it was in midst of war. dont expect too much from it it was average. it had a good big engine and extremley rugged wings. nice designs.
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dont underistmate zeros dude! it was so successful in the entire war. it was an ace! it was unique and both british and american pilots will cowe around if they se it. it was a vetren of pearl harbor.and it was a most vicious plane of the war. it was an ace.

typhoons suck dude. they are good ground attack but still suck. weak and unsuccessful at air.

a browning machine gun shooting down a plane? realy hard to belive this. what range and how speed of the pilot?



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this is called pwnage for allies

this an emily. it haas guns sorounding it. this is a flying tank dude. its a fort in the air. it cant be chased or sorounded our outmenouvered. it has guns evrey where. it can just kill like 20 warhawks in 10 minutes man. it can use huge amounts of torpedos and lots of bomb. weather light or heavy. this plane can send evreything straight down. it was realy hard to take down. AA (anti air) is the best key to destroy it.

the IJN had great planes like kate. it was so damn powerful. it was lacking in the sealf-sealling engines. but still a vetren of both pearl harbor and other battles and was common used in kamikaze fights.  it was a speciel plane indeed!

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another powerful IJN plane is judy. a powerful plane. not very powerful but considring to the other bombers this one is very strong dive bomber. it was as most of other planes lacking in the self-sealing engines. but it is still vetren of pearl harbor and was used alot by the IJN in the entire war. in the later verions of judy were actually faster the the zero and were used as night fighters.

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luftwaffe has good fighters during the war AND bombers. the luftwaffe division had probably the best bombers during the war. its the stuka or the "junker" bombers. the allied fortresses and redoubts were strong and fortfied. but fell quickly to the junkers that bombarded them
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mosqito? seriously? dude. its wood. its not a powerful piece of iron. ITS WOOD. it can be shot down by a pistol or something. its weak plane. compere to a japanese betty plane. betty is better. more common. veery strong. very powerful and has lots of anti enemy plane guns. it was probably most used bomber by IJN in the entire war

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cheers and thanks for this great topic
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« Reply #10 on: 30 November 2010, 22:07:55 »
The betty was highly flammable and allied fighter pilots called them flying cigars and the mosquito could either outrun any fighter it couldn't out fight or had a higher altitude then the me 262 which was faster, it carried just as much as the betty it also could outfight any two engine plane and had a payload of up to 4000 pounds in the unarmed bomber version. The corsair had a huge engine, great maneuverability, speed, and armor not to mention 6 .50 cals and a 2000 pound, post war a 4000 pound payload of anything from rockets and bombs to napalm. your picture is actually a wildcat. the emily was big and clumsy, only useful for patrolling sort of like the british sunderland only it had worse armor, one got shot down by a PBY Catalina :O :O, the judy was still worse then the douglas dauntless and one thing neither the germans nor the japanese did was provide decent forward armament to their dive bombers, both the stuka and val and judy had two light machine guns, the british skua has four, the dauntless two .50 cals and the helldiver 2 20mms. The kate lacked armor or decent defensive armament and its payload was very average pretty much the same as the devastator and swordfish :O :O, The stuka was great when faced with troops lacking determination and without air cover, if men were willing to use their AA batteries and attack them with fighters they were near hopeless :P. The browning shot it down because it was well aimed and the zero lacks armor or self sealing fuel tanks that could prevent such a thing happening. The best bombers were the B-29, Lancaster, Stirling(it was maneuverable enough to out turn some two enginegd night fighters), mosquito, Ju-88, maybe arado-234. Typhoons had mechanical not combat trouble, its 20mm cannons could rip most targets apart and it had a 1 ton payload it was great at gunning down trucks, tanks, troops, focke wulf 190's, me 109s, and me 262s. Heres another fun fact, a bristol blenheim succeeded in shooting down 2 japanese aces in one combat and an anson patrol plane escaped 9 me 109's in combat. By the way warlord, don't overestimate defensive armament despite the fact that it may look or sound nice it was not quite so effective even when used in the huge formations that were used against germany. oh and the b-29 could fly so high that almost no other enemy plane could reach it.
This is a great topic, thanks ;D

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« Reply #11 on: 1 December 2010, 05:10:19 »
lol, PBY catalina is probably just as big. but catalina had a huge cannon infront of it that helped. i wish i can see that... lol. tow fats fighting over the sea. LOL :O

still. emily was very strong. it can shoot down a hellcat with ease probably. its slow but it is'nt a problem anymore with all its defenses and guns.

betty was good dude. lack of armor and non self sealing feul tanks were a problem but it was sorounded with good facts and the non self sealing tanks and armor were just 2 issues.

erm. this is a hellcat actually. the hellcat and bearcat and wildcat just look the same. but much diffrent stats and strength and armamant.

judy was not bad. it was a vetren plane for the entire war. avengers and dauntless were good too. but the main point is showing what the IJN got.

mosqito still sucks dude. it was fast bomber but it was WOOD. shot a mini pistol near it and see what happens.

i understand the zero has those 2 issues. but still you must realize they are no longer trouble. because it agility and speed will avoid lots of incoming guns. it can shoot down like 5 P40 warhawks in 30-2 hours.

typhoons' cannons were hard to aim. it was a held in one angel. it cant be turned left or right. which is bad for a cannon. it was exellent anti ground. but the air fights which cannot stand at. its still can be escorted. big deal?

stuka can both fight in air at average and it does an amazing job destroying fortresses and cities and bases and fields.

devestators were absloutly SICK planes. they wont do any succes even at a small briereme or a slope. it was an early plane. outclassed in the begin of war. but i think it did its best. probably outraced its limits.

fairey swordfish wont do any good but the pilots flying it were surley experienced ones. but still. swordfish is a sick plane. but it somewhat did impossible things. it can carry torpedos? i dont realy imagine such light and weak plane can carry such destructive anti-ship bombs. nice plane.

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i cant imagine someone will do this sucide attacks. you know your gonna die. but instead. a normal human would scream and fear in cowardice. those KAMAKIZES were willing to die and hit the ships instead.

i think the only casualty of this KAMIKAZE attacks were 1 carriar. i dont realy know. i think this made the allies too scared so they made the worlds biggest destruction weapon that will be probably dropped on our homes.

nuclear bombs :bomb: :bomb: :bomb: :bomb: :bomb: :bomb: :bomb: :bomb: :bomb: :bomb: :bomb:

this is such a great historical conversation! could we make a new topic for open historical talk? not only one opanian and subject ::)
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« Reply #12 on: 2 December 2010, 03:53:08 »
lol, PBY catalina is probably just as big. but catalina had a huge cannon infront of it that helped. i wish i can see that... lol. tow fats fighting over the sea. LOL :O

still. emily was very strong. it can shoot down a hellcat with ease probably. its slow but it is'nt a problem anymore with all its defenses and guns.

betty was good dude. lack of armor and non self sealing feul tanks were a problem but it was sorounded with good facts and the non self sealing tanks and armor were just 2 issues.

erm. this is a hellcat actually. the hellcat and bearcat and wildcat just look the same. but much diffrent stats and strength and armamant.

judy was not bad. it was a vetren plane for the entire war. avengers and dauntless were good too. but the main point is showing what the IJN got.

mosqito still sucks dude. it was fast bomber but it was WOOD. shot a mini pistol near it and see what happens.

i understand the zero has those 2 issues. but still you must realize they are no longer trouble. because it agility and speed will avoid lots of incoming guns. it can shoot down like 5 P40 warhawks in 30-2 hours.

typhoons' cannons were hard to aim. it was a held in one angel. it cant be turned left or right. which is bad for a cannon. it was exellent anti ground. but the air fights which cannot stand at. its still can be escorted. big deal?

stuka can both fight in air at average and it does an amazing job destroying fortresses and cities and bases and fields.

devestators were absloutly SICK planes. they wont do any succes even at a small briereme or a slope. it was an early plane. outclassed in the begin of war. but i think it did its best. probably outraced its limits.

fairey swordfish wont do any good but the pilots flying it were surley experienced ones. but still. swordfish is a sick plane. but it somewhat did impossible things. it can carry torpedos? i dont realy imagine such light and weak plane can carry such destructive anti-ship bombs. nice plane.

My body is but a floating dream to drift the currents of life. As it is with my end I must depart and go where it takes me. The wind pushes me in the same direction, yet both the wind and waves sway undecipherablely and constantly changing--Samurai death poem

There is a sense of being prepared for death. That if you are in every moment ready to die then you are really ready to live--Bushido.

the body is nothing -- soul is evreything.

i cant imagine someone will do this sucide attacks. you know your gonna die. but instead. a normal human would scream and fear in cowardice. those KAMAKIZES were willing to die and hit the ships instead.

i think the only casualty of this KAMIKAZE attacks were 1 carriar. i dont realy know. i think this made the allies too scared so they made the worlds biggest destruction weapon that will be probably dropped on our homes.

nuclear bombs :bomb: :bomb: :bomb: :bomb: :bomb: :bomb: :bomb: :bomb: :bomb: :bomb: :bomb:

this is such a great historical conversation! could we make a new topic for open historical talk? not only one opanian and subject ::)
the pby wasn't that big and its heaviest gun was a .50 cal, no cannons, the emily lacked much armor and the defensive guns are far less accurate. the betty was under powered later on and its successes were against troops lacking air cover and fighters ::), no armor and self sealing tanks means anything, probably even a ww1 plane can shoot you down. plus its defenses are not particularly advantageous, the fighter is a wildcat by the way, I checked and its a wildcat, there are several differences between it the bearcat and hellcat. sure the judy was fine but nothing amazing, and the zero's maneuverability was useless once the allies knew what to do, it was near un upgradeable too :|. the devastator was as good as the kate but lacked escorts initially, the swordfish was old but could carry as much as the kate and devastator not to mention that it needed less take off space. stukas hardly had a chance in the air fighting other then against transports or if piloted by masters like Rudel. the mosquito is fast, maneuverable has self sealing fuel tanks huge payload and wood is not very vulnerable if processed right, this was a mistake of the russians who had poor wood quality. it could survive anything up to cannons and outrun nearly anything. The typhoon was a beast, its cannons were good as was its maneuverability and armor, its only problem was its overly thick wings and engine troubles

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« Reply #13 on: 2 December 2010, 05:56:00 »
no no no. PBY had a cannon. and also the machine guns were'nt so inaccurate but weak and light and also some of them were used in land and infantry battles :o

kate were'nt as the devestator. kate was alittle better. as result of much better performance. judy was'nt a type of "super" dive bomber but MY POINT IS TO SHOW WHAT THE IJN GOT

fail. betty bombers had a slightly better performance probably then any bomber the US had in the begin of the war. and also they were used in sevrel oprations as they were survivors of much alot of AA fire. also because of their good height of throw. maraudars were killing more US pilots then japs. but the US had those mitchel planes. they were awfully good and powerful

typhoon was amazing but air combat was trouble.

stuka CAN win an air fight but against minimum enemy air planes. stukas are slow but have got 2 guns in it. the stuka was amazing performance in the war.

zero was upgraded. and the allies had needed much time to discover its weakness. corsairs were not as good as zero. and P40s are not. and wildcats are not. zeros prey easily on enemy bombers and planes. also much aces used it. i heard of a battle of some sea i cant remember its name. it was in the pacific where a squad of 4 zeros toke down about 12 or 9 of those advanced twin-engine allied planes.

nope. still mosquito is heavy and slow while its wood. but when bombs are dropped. its no longer trouble. it was good but WOOD is'nt gonna protect from any incoming air machineguns. especielly the ones on planes are extra heavy and srong to shoot down anything.

zero can be broken apart by probably a shoot crosbow but its FAST. i saw some fighting scenes and kamikaze attack on youtube. there was zeros the allies keept shooting at like a 1000 bullets and nothing hit it. the troops dident learn or had the skillof balastics and this plane can outrun bullets.

jill was an upgraded versions of kate. kate was good it was said. it was probably the mosteffective plane during the kamikaze too. loaded with guns and explosions and bombs and filled with feul it will bomb down a cruiser if it hits the back or the deck or somewhere velunarble. jill was also said to have a good performance during the war. there was another exelent plane of IJN is shinden and tony and raiden. shinden can destroy anything probably.  1 can shoot down atleast 3 bearcats. tony was an exellent plane with high menueverbilityand armament. it was a feared plane of the war. and raiden with a large engine. was also able to to carry 250 IB bombs. it was with heavy shooting guns.

PBY WAS big. its a fact about it. it was recon. and just as emily. full of guns and arms. the guns werent in the plane anymore ITS A PLANE IN GUNS :o most splendid.

what else to say? dauntless was a very good plane INDEED it can bomb from huge height. and was comon used by US troops.

WW1 planes? you know about it? i dont. tell us more.

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« Reply #14 on: 2 December 2010, 21:40:35 »
no no no. PBY had a cannon. and also the machine guns were'nt so inaccurate but weak and light and also some of them were used in land and infantry battles :o

kate were'nt as the devestator. kate was alittle better. as result of much better performance. judy was'nt a type of "super" dive bomber but MY POINT IS TO SHOW WHAT THE IJN GOT

fail. betty bombers had a slightly better performance probably then any bomber the US had in the begin of the war. and also they were used in sevrel oprations as they were survivors of much alot of AA fire. also because of their good height of throw. maraudars were killing more US pilots then japs. but the US had those mitchel planes. they were awfully good and powerful

typhoon was amazing but air combat was trouble.

stuka CAN win an air fight but against minimum enemy air planes. stukas are slow but have got 2 guns in it. the stuka was amazing performance in the war.

zero was upgraded. and the allies had needed much time to discover its weakness. corsairs were not as good as zero. and P40s are not. and wildcats are not. zeros prey easily on enemy bombers and planes. also much aces used it. i heard of a battle of some sea i cant remember its name. it was in the pacific where a squad of 4 zeros toke down about 12 or 9 of those advanced twin-engine allied planes.

nope. still mosquito is heavy and slow while its wood. but when bombs are dropped. its no longer trouble. it was good but WOOD is'nt gonna protect from any incoming air machineguns. especielly the ones on planes are extra heavy and srong to shoot down anything.

zero can be broken apart by probably a shoot crosbow but its FAST. i saw some fighting scenes and kamikaze attack on youtube. there was zeros the allies keept shooting at like a 1000 bullets and nothing hit it. the troops dident learn or had the skillof balastics and this plane can outrun bullets.

jill was an upgraded versions of kate. kate was good it was said. it was probably the mosteffective plane during the kamikaze too. loaded with guns and explosions and bombs and filled with feul it will bomb down a cruiser if it hits the back or the deck or somewhere velunarble. jill was also said to have a good performance during the war. there was another exelent plane of IJN is shinden and tony and raiden. shinden can destroy anything probably.  1 can shoot down atleast 3 bearcats. tony was an exellent plane with high menueverbilityand armament. it was a feared plane of the war. and raiden with a large engine. was also able to to carry 250 IB bombs. it was with heavy shooting guns.

PBY WAS big. its a fact about it. it was recon. and just as emily. full of guns and arms. the guns werent in the plane anymore ITS A PLANE IN GUNS :o most splendid.

what else to say? dauntless was a very good plane INDEED it can bomb from huge height. and was comon used by US troops.

WW1 planes? you know about it? i dont. tell us more.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PBY Read this, the catalina DOESN't have cannons :P, most recon planes werte big but the catalina was smaller then the emily, the emilys roughly as big as the sunderland, most ships sunk by kamikazes were destroyers, transports and unarmored light carriers, cruisers, battleships and larger carriers, especially the british carriers were a near unsinkable target, the bearcat never fought in WW2 and it was just as maneuverable as any japanese plane, but had greater weapons, armor and, speed due to a large engine, while the japanese planes were good they were not necessarily excellent and even at the end of the war, not even their super prototypes were good enough for the corsair or mustang, the firefly was also a nice elegant two seat fighter.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A6M the zero was not that fast, it never even reached the 400mph mark its engine only went from 950hp to 1320hp through all its marks, not counting the first near un produced model. Compare this to the me109 which went 760hp to 1800hp, or the spitfire which went 1050hp to 2500hp, both were well over 400mph by their mid to late models. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Mosquito ,the mosquitoes slow, is it  :O :O, read those stats, its faster then the zero and most german fighters in its mid version, it also had a far higher altitude, the wood is not that easy to destroy, especially due to the great design of the mosquito, the mosquito was pretty small actually, plus you gotta catch it first, it was very sturdy and could absorb any punishment up to the 20mm mark and then, most planes can't stand it anyway. The aces flew the zero because it was the only major IJN fighter of the whole war, also those aces flew till they were crippled, captured or dead, just like the germans and Soviets, the zero did not make much of an improvement in anything from engines to armor to weaponry. the allies did not need that much time pearl harbor to midway is a roughly 6 month period, and the allies lacked many aircraft there, almost all of those in the location were poor types, the japanese were fighting Brewster Buffaloes, hurricane mk1,s gladiators, blenheims and wildebeests, the few times they tangled with the AVG, american volunteer group, they slaughtered the japanese with their p-40's, both the p-40 and wildcat had inferior maneuverability but with their armor greater firepower and roughly equal speed they could fight it out on near fair terms, I do however admit that neither of the planes was particularly modern. the typhoon was very good versus air too and it was known as a great hunter of the german Jabo raids on england, they took down Focke wulfs me 109s, v1's, you name it. the stulas performance in air to air combat is miserable, it had two guns true, but each was of but a 7.92 mm calibre which is extremely inefficient against planes w/ self sealing fuel tanks, their anti ground performance is based on the first one to two years of the war where they fought the polish and french, both lacking adequate air power, in the battle of britain, they were withdrawn fast because of the damage the RAF was wreaking on them, the russinas also lacked air cover, but in a year they were also chasing stukas away. one of the few incidents of stukas shooting anything down was in the Slovak uprising when two stukas shot down a lone, out dated aero 328 biplane doing recon work. The marauder had initial problem but once fixed it became a feared bomber just like the b-25, and the betty was a rough equal of the venturas  and blenheim IVs only less armored but with a slightly larger payload, their successes came against undefended ground and sea targets. why do you think the allied pilots called them flying cigars ::), by the way, what do you mean by fail. the kate was no better then the devastator but it was provided with such overwhelming fighter cover that it was able to make its torpedo runs fine, but once that was gone it was screwed, just like the unprotected devastators at midway, the best torpedo bomber was probably the avenger, it had a bomb bay, 1 ton carry capacity, and a .50 cal in a stabilized turret.