Choose your Favorite: MegaGlest or Glest Advanced Engine

[Omega]

Question: Which of the two is your favorite to use for everyday usage and/or modding? Please give REASONS FOR YOUR ANSWER. Don't just state your favorite (the reason why there's no poll), but defend that reason.

Important rule to note is not to attack the other people's opinions on their favorite. This is a question to determine the community's preferences, not to split the community into those favorites.


I'll begin. I prefer GAE because it has many more features for modding which I've come to depend upon, a better UI, improved pathfinding, and features like autoreturn.

[ultifd]

For me, I prefer Neither. Each of the two forks' pros and cons crosses each other out for me...
MG is good for multiplayer and some features that GAE doesn't have... and the megapack is a nice too. People could say that it's too big or it's quality can't be compared with magitech...but people can always download a version without the megapack. For quality, megapack is pretty good compared to most of the mods/factions that Glest has.
GAE, great features...but its lack of good multiplayer makes it kinda bad.   That's main con. People could say that the main con of MG would be that it doesn't have as much features or not enough features, but its multiplayer, other good features, and future features or other "stuff" makes it up for that. With the main con for GAE same thing...its great and many features basically make it up for that. But multiplayer is kinda bigger thing...part of the reason why MG has more downloads than GAE.

improved pathfinding

Well, MG has it too. I guess ya' didn't know.   Now, maybe even better than GAE...not sure.

[Psychedelic_hands]

Well, since I tried GAE it's hard to go back to MG, or VG....

It wasn't a big deal before I tried GAE, but MG seems kinda choppy now.

For me GAE, feels more like a continuation of Glest's development. MG feels like a big mod for it.

[Gabbe]

Poll? GAE for modding abilities (and military ), MG for multiplayer I prefer both

[Zoythrus]

Well, since I tried GAE it's hard to go back to MG, or VG....

It wasn't a big deal before I tried GAE, but MG seems kinda choppy now.

For me GAE, feels more like a continuation of Glest's development. MG feels like a big mod for it.

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[ElimiNator]

My favourite is MG because I help make it and it is stable with single / multi player. Also I like the building rotation and hight cells for air units (There is lots more but I wont post it now).

[ultifd]

Poll? GAE for modding abilities (and military ), MG for multiplayer I prefer both

Don't just state your favorite (the reason why there's no poll),

Hmm...I guess I prefer both too? 

It wasn't a big deal before I tried GAE, but MG seems kinda choppy now.

It was a little bit choppy...but the upcoming version (3.4.0) is much better. Now, I guess it's "normal"...

[John.d.h]

I'd rather stay out of this.  I support the development of both engines, and I wish the best for each.  Some people prefer one, some people prefer the other.  I don't think it's constructive to have a debate about which is better.

[Omega]

It's not asking which is better, simply which engine you prefer (either for modding, playing, multiplayer, or all-round).

[ultifd]

All-round and playing: Depends on the type of  "Glest game" that you want to play...
Modding: GAE, unless you want to have good multiplayer support/MG's additional features
Multiplayer: Basically MG, unless people are using windows to windows or linux to linux and that they really want to have GAE's features.

[titi]

I like multiplayer a lot and I play it nearly every day!
Thats why I like MG. Beside of this its pretty stable and comes with lots of fitting data (factions/tilesets/maps) using most of the available features it has.
in short:
Multiplayer, fitting data, easy to install and completly ready to play offering hours and hours of fun! -> MG

GAE is trying to be a good RTS engine focussing on new features but just has rudimentary multiplayer support.
Its nothing for me, because I simply want to play! I love big one hour battles! My personal motivation to create stuff for glest is that I really like to play this game.
Sadly not many other people really play it a lot yet. So whats missing the most for MG and GAE are active players.
Thats our main issue!

[Zoythrus]

you know, that keeps coming up. the reason people dont play MG or GAE is because only we know about them. if they were broadcast on the main site, people might know about them. before you say "but Vanilla Glest is useful because its stable!" remember that it's really outdated! the main site needs a revamp! it needs to show that better versions exist.

why dont we fix this?

[ultifd]

We've tried again/we are trying...please don't discuss that in this thread...this thread isn't about that.

[John.d.h]

Honestly, I think we're comparing apples and oranges here.  Megaglest is a game; GAE is an engine.  They're not the same thing.  If things work out the way I'm planning, that will change in the not-too-distant future, when GAE has a full-featured tech tree of its own that will explore all its myriad capabilities.

[ultifd]

Megaglest is a game; GAE is an engine.  They're not the same thing.

True, but not 100% true...

[Gabbe]

What do i see? This thread becoming another "How to merge GAE&MG" topic.

[ultifd]

I don't see that...and besides, that won't happen... I only see that this is becoming a GAE VS MG thread...

[Omega]

...And it's meant for neither. The thread is simply for peeps to give their opinions on their favorite. Not what they think should replace glest, nor putting down the other side, but to simply give your personal favourite and the reasons for that.

The two engines can also see this as a way to know what is their "weak points" (ie: user A prefers GAE because it has function B. MG now knows that if they get function B, user A will like them just as much).

[ultifd]

Heh, of course. I do think that some "response" is ok...as long as things don't too hectic...in a debating kind of way.

The two engines can also see this as a way to know what is their "weak points" (ie: user A prefers GAE because it has function B. MG now knows that if they get function B, user A will like them just as much).

True...but not really, for now. In the future, sure. I know that Softcoder and Titi aren't focusing on features that GAE has, and for GAE I think Silnarm and Hailstone are preparing a release + they're currently focusing on other features...and also not multiplayer, yet. Only thing that they might be is observers...

[Chakravanti]

From the perspective of someone who is just getting into glest...this is all pretty rediculous.  I mean, I understand that there is some reason the whole project split like pane glass but for the life of me I can't figure out what it is and everything on the topic amounts to some hush hush drama that was swept under the rug with repeated statements to the effect of 'we've already been over that and dev's have stated their positions.'

Really?  Where?  'Cuz if you think MG and GAE are hard to find.  The REASON they exist is even more elusive.  After pouring over a dozen stickies, faqs and random forums posts.  This thread is the most informative thing I've come up with.

I'm not trying to troll you, I personally don't care serious business your development squabbles are.  I'm just trying to figure out what I want to play and what to reccomend to friends...

Having played glest.  I have NO IDEA WTF THIS IS ABOUT.  So I picked one: MG,  purely for the multiplayer content.  I suppose GAE might have multiplayer eventually but with a community expressing this kind of...err....yeah...I think I'll hold my breath for a multiplayer version of dwarf fortress till you guys figure out what the heck is going on here and put up some decent self-descriptions somewhere normal people can read about whatever the heck it is you are doing here that doesn't smell like the result of a bean burrito (which is exactly what it loooks like now considering the lack of anything else).  Still, it's probably for the best, and no...I'm not asking for an explanation of drama.  Only an explanation of exactly WTF GAE & MG ARE, and how they build upon glest because this is surprisingly lacking from my perspective).

All in all though....glest is pretty sweet and I'm looking forward to rockin down some games with you on MG when I bring myself up to par and hopefully I'll get something decent I can bundle into linux installs for my clients.  TIA, I probably just missed 'the link' that explains everything...

[wciow]

I agree that it may be somewhat unclear exactly what MG/GAE are and what the differences are for new players. This is something that will hopefully change down the line when the forks recieve their own website/portal. Having said that, if you want to play Glest just search your package manager and there will be an up-to-date vanilla Glest install for major linux distributions. If you want to play with versions of Glest that are still under development you may have to accept that it is not so straight forward.

[ultifd]

My favorite is "Future Glest"...it seems to have everything! 

[Mr War]

I appreciate both, but right now I'm modding only in GAE because it allows me to do water units. I also find the tile sets in GAE slightly easier to work with as I'm trying to add quasi-blending to the bases of my buildings.

[ultifd]

Well, MG is a little bit better than GAE performance wise now; at least. Even if you don't count the FPS Cap. Perhaps even better when MG improves its pathfinder...

I really don't have a favorite anymore. I just wish GAE would not have resolution problems, be OK with cross platform play, be able to to be OK with Magic, and have some space to be able to chat when people are setting up the game. Oh and an addon manager

But really once this resolution bug is fixed, I'm fine with GAE. GAE is great with its additional features, but I wish it would work multiplayer wise. Vice versa with MG.

[Mr War]

re resolution, I find MG has too small buttons, at least on my screen. But having the map visible in the game set-up screen on MG is great.