OT discussion from Japanese thread

[Hagekura]

so Do you like The Three Kingdoms huh? 
Chinese three kingdoms period is very popular subject in japan too.
I don't know much story about the three kingdoms though.
but I like Zhuge Liang.

coz he has same name as me  .

[the warlord of the reich]

he is a strategist advisor of shu.

three kingdom were the only kingdoms emerged and lasted from all the large number of clans. they fought for power. they fought furious battles untill someone ended it up with a victory. i like dong zhou. he was a great leader that realy made the world go in fear.

[-Archmage-]

Dynasty Warriors!!! FTW!! 
That's Chinese though...

[Hagekura]

Dynasty Warriors!!! FTW!! 
That's Chinese though...

No no,Dynasty Warriors is Japanese indeed.
Japanese maker (KOEI) made it.

[Gabbe]

Ka-Ra-Te! Or is that korean?..

[-Archmage-]

This is from echinaexpat.com. Notice the name and content of the site. The reality that became the legend happened in China.

[the warlord of the reich]

BU-KUNG-KAR-KONG <---(i just made that up )

i think they would. but dragons were also japanese and european AND also asian mythology.

anyways. i was playing this good game calld "RUSE" World war 2 based game on my xbox. it gave me a suggestion for what is best to do: this game contains prototypes of unis and tanks and aircraft that were'nt actually produced in the war but they were designed in the war and invented after it. like that "MAUS" tank is a german prototype designed during the war but never entered combat. this game lets you play with it and produce it through the game. so as many other units like that. so i am saying meybe you should make a very expensive and rare prototype of a flying machine? some sort of invention lets you jump over or fly. just an advice. i hope it helps.

OH- also you can make magic makes units flies. meybe harry potter broomsticks provided to the army?

[Gabbe]

dude, dont play that game on sonsole, it is WAY better on PC. U can play race games on ur console, but RTS just doesnt work out on consoles, then you rather should go PC.

On a side note, i missed that, i think Karate = japan and taekwondo = Korean.

[the warlord of the reich]

DUDE, its an advice and a strategy game fits and the advice is'nt bad. i hate race games they're boring (though i had a great intrest in them at the past) RTS works on consoles go see it. i play RUSE its all strategy army comand (divisions, corps, brigades etc) and airborne soldiers. air supirioriority. and ambush tactics and blitzkreg. and also other games like warhammer provide a largley releastic strategy warfare. this is getting offtopic so CUT THE CHATTER and thanks. we dont wanna ruin hagekura's topic. i also go PC anyways. what am doing here if am not?

[Gabbe]

DUDE, its an advice and a strategy game fits and the advice is'nt bad. i hate race games they're boring (though i had a great intrest in them at the past) RTS works on consoles go see it. i play RUSE its all strategy army comand (divisions, corps, brigades etc) and airborne soldiers. air supirioriority. and ambush tactics and blitzkreg. and also other games like warhammer provide a largley releastic strategy warfare. this is getting offtopic so CUT THE CHATTER and thanks. we dont wanna ruin hagekura's topic. i also go PC anyways. what am doing here if am not?

I know R.U.S.E, i have been playing it since release. Also, on consoles, you dont have the control that you have on PC. It isn`t my opinion, it is fact that a mouse and keyboard is way more accurate. Im truly a fan of that game. I also have 2.0 W/L ratio. I dont care if you got a pc, i say it is smarter to play it on PC. Simply, all RTSes on consoles have been huge fails. Also, on pc you can get to play it on touchtable Ha! beat that The admins and mods can move the off-ropic stuff to my report games here topic.

[the warlord of the reich]

so. a mouse and a wireless controller make a huge diffrance if the game is strategy? <---stupid. no it does'nt also actually i played alot of good strategy games 2 years ago on my PS2 like: romance of the three kingdoms. nobnaga's ambition. kessen 3 and kessen 2

yeah ruse is fun. VERY FUN by the way i just completed the campaign yesterday. you read a mission's description and warnings you think your up for some serious s**t later when you start playing you say "this is a weak bull**** wheres the challenge" but the last 2 missions were serious and fun. i like playing all the time with germans becaus i like them and they're the only ones who got some real businass in their army their prototypes are awesome. their air superiority is top notch and their infantry is very elite and their tanks are uunbelivably awesome. russia got good tanks too but they dont have good aircrat. their infantry are very weak and their anti-tank capacity are not very good. play as germans. and you get an all round army. they got the best paras and the best planes dont forget their tanks. panzer 4 is a strong medium tank of WW2 and the game. panzer 3 is awesom. i used them once against france at medium difficulty in 1939 and i smashed their tanks. that germany got few tanks in early era i decided to take the challenge since france got lots of good tanks early. USA tanks are poor. especielly in their range so it gets boring when you get to stuck using only pershing tanks. france is weak. they got a decent force but their tanks are few, expensive and thir  anti-air weapons are weak. while germans got that wirbelwind. ii like the wirbelwind alot. its pure awesome. not expensive and rapid firing reduces enemy aircraft to useless flying junk. also it makes that skink and zsu and m19 look like crap. also wirbelwind is a tough anti-infantry and medium anti-tank. you also get some pumas recon which you can put in a forest and kill alot of foes with it (i once slaughtered a large russian armor including a KV1 tank using a puma recon)  dont forget the german panthers. those panthers are pure awesom.  they're not expensive and 2 of it can kill a IS2 tank and those T-32 are crap when facing them. also the king tiger.... OMG i cant belive its legendary strength. its hard to get but its totally worth it. hey also tigers are pure ownage too. i once destroyed a british single player foe using 1 tiger. not exactly. but i managed to kill alot of matildas and cromwells and amazingly a shot down a churchill with it. then they brough typhoons and destroyed it. tigers and king tigers and jagdpanthers and panthers. they are all tough and fearsome. but its not all yet.... the giant 180+ tons weight mouse emerges from my prototype base. its gonna crush all things stand before it.... this mouse tank. i killed alot of IS2 with it in a mission campaign where you hold a pass or soething. tigers. i use spy ruse. and station them back and let them squish a giant enemy tank force without moving. it rquires recon. otherwise you'd be wasting the mass destruction and range of that 88mm gun on i.

cheers!

[Gabbe]

so. a mouse and a wireless controller make a huge diffrance if the game is strategy? <---stupid. no it does'nt also actually i played alot of good strategy games 2 years ago on my PS2 like: romance of the three kingdoms. nobnaga's ambition. kessen 3 and kessen 2

yeah ruse is fun. VERY FUN by the way i just completed the campaign yesterday. you read a mission's description and warnings you think your up for some serious s**t later when you start playing you say "this is a weak bull**** wheres the challenge" but the last 2 missions were serious and fun. i like playing all the time with germans becaus i like them and they're the only ones who got some real businass in their army their prototypes are awesome. their air superiority is top notch and their infantry is very elite and their tanks are uunbelivably awesome. russia got good tanks too but they dont have good aircrat. their infantry are very weak and their anti-tank capacity are not very good. play as germans. and you get an all round army. they got the best paras and the best planes dont forget their tanks. panzer 4 is a strong medium tank of WW2 and the game. panzer 3 is awesom. i used them once against france at medium difficulty in 1939 and i smashed their tanks. that germany got few tanks in early era i decided to take the challenge since france got lots of good tanks early. USA tanks are poor. especielly in their range so it gets boring when you get to stuck using only pershing tanks. france is weak. they got a decent force but their tanks are few, expensive and thir  anti-air weapons are weak. while germans got that wirbelwind. ii like the wirbelwind alot. its pure awesome. not expensive and rapid firing reduces enemy aircraft to useless flying junk. also it makes that skink and zsu and m19 look like crap. also wirbelwind is a tough anti-infantry and medium anti-tank. you also get some pumas recon which you can put in a forest and kill alot of foes with it (i once slaughtered a large russian armor including a KV1 tank using a puma recon)  dont forget the german panthers. those panthers are pure awesom.  they're not expensive and 2 of it can kill a IS2 tank and those T-32 are crap when facing them. also the king tiger.... OMG i cant belive its legendary strength. its hard to get but its totally worth it. hey also tigers are pure ownage too. i once destroyed a british single player foe using 1 tiger. not exactly. but i managed to kill alot of matildas and cromwells and amazingly a shot down a churchill with it. then they brough typhoons and destroyed it. tigers and king tigers and jagdpanthers and panthers. they are all tough and fearsome. but its not all yet.... the giant 180+ tons weight mouse emerges from my prototype base. its gonna crush all things stand before it.... this mouse tank. i killed alot of IS2 with it in a mission campaign where you hold a pass or soething. tigers. i use spy ruse. and station them back and let them squish a giant enemy tank force without moving. it rquires recon. otherwise you'd be wasting the mass destruction and range of that 88mm gun on i.

cheers!

Yeah (were is the mods that maybe should move this..?) Yeah it does, for example, on a keyboard, you have way more keys, and if you have played SC then you know what im talking about. Your APM on the controller just cannot get anywear close to what you can do with a keyboard alone. And if you haven`t played SC, then you haven`t played a RTS Yes, the RTS games may seem "good" on the ps2, but just have a look at what the mousa and keyboard gives you and you quickly throw all the trash in the bin.

Germany is overpowered -_- only thing that can take on a german is a french massing AA guns in forests, otherwise say byebye to your HQ cause its just been captured. French AA guns aren`t weak, especially if they are massed! Even the german luftwaffe becomes useless against frnech AA, becuase they have the possibility to mass them up. And then we haven`t even started on. try it out in game.

[the warlord of the reich]

actually i find AA near useless. fast enemy aircraft run through them (and sometimes destroy them) except when you use high performance stuff. like a wirbelwind or a M16 or other good AA also french AA is camel right? those are weak. really. short range and med-high firepower but usually inexpensive. i dont count on this type of AA often because of short range and low firepower. enemy fast planes seem to be never destroyed before doing their damage. although i love seeieng the flak clouds fill the sky while firing on the enemy

actually even in the real world war germans were the best tanks and aircraft and bombers and tanks also AA.

do you know that 88MM gun? its probably the best. its like one shit and enemy plane on fire. although suffers from slow reload speed. but it still can easily netrilize enemy tanks and airplanes easily as they come to the target. i see myself as anexellent artillary general. i like using smaller forces instead of a huge army. you know why? because when using small armies you can kind of direct your troops carefully. use them proper and instead of zooming out the whole map and directing your army into mass attacks without placing them properly (like you have AT and infantry VS enemy tank and infantry you'll be able to put your infantry forward to netrulize enemy infantry while moving the AT close behinde to destroy the tank) but when zooming out the units are reduced to look like chess figures the more units in the longer the chess thingy. you just click over a ches thing and attack with itt a chess thingy without being able to deply properly you lets the computer handles them and fights on his way. sending your troops to doom by massing the army into a stupid attack. so deply properly. and move your units in certin formations to overwhelm them. artilley is the best . place your artilley back and screen them while havig sojme tea. no damage trouble. i see the AI is stupid enough to fire only on units that areidentified and seen but i use a "redio silence ruse" and make my units invecicable and fire on enemy unidentified units. hey do you know how to get that nuclear long tom? i got it only at the last level of the campaign.  but i want some bcuz ii like mass destruction and pwnage.... lol   would be fun to pile up 100 IS3 tanks and take up a nuclear gun and fire it on them. in the last mission in campaign i was using my nuclear tom  to even shoot some tanks nearby. annihlate total enemy bases. it was reaally, really fun.

chers

[Gabbe]

actually i find AA near useless. fast enemy aircraft run through them (and sometimes destroy them) except when you use high performance stuff. like a wirbelwind or a M16 or other good AA also french AA is camel right? those are weak. really. short range and med-high firepower but usually inexpensive. i dont count on this type of AA often because of short range and low firepower. enemy fast planes seem to be never destroyed before doing their damage. although i love seeieng the flak clouds fill the sky while firing on the enemy

actually even in the real world war germans were the best tanks and aircraft and bombers and tanks also AA.

do you know that 88MM gun? its probably the best. its like one shit and enemy plane on fire. although suffers from slow reload speed. but it still can easily netrilize enemy tanks and airplanes easily as they come to the target. i see myself as anexellent artillary general. i like using smaller forces instead of a huge army. you know why? because when using small armies you can kind of direct your troops carefully. use them proper and instead of zooming out the whole map and directing your army into mass attacks without placing them properly (like you have AT and infantry VS enemy tank and infantry you'll be able to put your infantry forward to netrulize enemy infantry while moving the AT close behinde to destroy the tank) but when zooming out the units are reduced to look like chess figures the more units in the longer the chess thingy. you just click over a ches thing and attack with itt a chess thingy without being able to deply properly you lets the computer handles them and fights on his way. sending your troops to doom by massing the army into a stupid attack. so deply properly. and move your units in certin formations to overwhelm them. artilley is the best . place your artilley back and screen them while havig sojme tea. no damage trouble. i see the AI is stupid enough to fire only on units that areidentified and seen but i use a "redio silence ruse" and make my units invecicable and fire on enemy unidentified units. hey do you know how to get that nuclear long tom? i got it only at the last level of the campaign.  but i want some bcuz ii like mass destruction and pwnage.... lol   would be fun to pile up 100 IS3 tanks and take up a nuclear gun and fire it on them. in the last mission in campaign i was using my nuclear tom  to even shoot some tanks nearby. annihlate total enemy bases. it was reaally, really fun.

chers

Germns are OP yes, they should get a huge nerf on everything. But try to mass that french AA, yes it is the camel, and any plane goes down. and they are cheap, i belive 10 for each?

What era do you play in? 1939 1945 or?

[the warlord of the reich]

every era. but with germany i usually play at 1945 so i will be able to get some awesom tanks and aircraft. also i think all AA are only 10 cost. i prefer owning the sky and domnating it with my own planes. rather using those light 20MM anti-aircraft are only usefull in 15-25 numbers. they consume alot of Population points and usually fast aircraft are abl to overwhelm them easily. use effective AA guns like the awesom wirbelwind. or a M19 or something. camel guns are verry low performance. you'll be able tto destroy them easily using stukas. and dont forget that any type of AA must be protected. though wirbelwinds are able to defend themself easily but are not very powerfull VS heavy tanks. i develop a thick and strong seigfried line and place strong AA in there. some nations have a poor AA like russia. even that ZSU is ineffective against aircraft. that its slow firing for a mobile AA and low firepower. its nearly nothing diffrent then a medium AA gun. but its fast and fires while moving. this game will be much more awesom if it gets more realestic. alot of historical units are not included in the game (ostwind, panzerwerfer, panzer II). and you know whats gun make it evn more fun? naval battles.

heres a wirbelwind in action WW2

[Gabbe]

USSR FTW! USSR = Mass units! and that i like!

[the warlord of the reich]

yes but. not really mass units. they're cook tanks are way too expensive. their prototypes are few but very powerfull. and their infantry are weak. but very cheap and very fast recruited. i play USSR many times. i like communist countries and i think they should've added those girl armies to the russian army....lol

also russian paras are weak. best infantry i say is fallschirmjagers. and russia got a weak airpower and ANTI-AIR power. and they tank hunters are ineffective but big and their AT are not very great. USSR are still awesome. i love their tanks. they got this pure awesome T-34 which is good and fast and armored though you can take it out with a panzer 4 and easily mass destroy it using a panther. panthers are my favourite tank in the game..... also i love and favour their KV1 tank. it looks great. and they losifstalins are awesom tanks. very great. but still germany WINS maus and konigstiger and panthers. the german definatly dominate the battlefield.

[Gabbe]

Tigers for me

[wyvern]

Now I get where you have all these notions of German superiority from, I heard RUSE is a great game and I want to get it, but sadly, no game is ever gonna be able to reproduce what happens in real life and include all the historical units.

[Gabbe]

Wyvern, what i thought first when i saw the BETA was "Oh god another RTS.." But when you play it, then its like sizes up for you and really, you can have thousands of squads on one battlefield, and you can zoome out incredibly far, also you can some in incredibly far. It is like the ultimate epic warfare game. And i can`t wait for them to release the new "modern: R.U.S.E" or the expansion with Japan and stuff. While it doesn`t include all units, it has the major ones. I suggest you download the free demo from steam. ANd before you do that i tell you; you will love the game

[wyvern]

Thanks, I'll try to get it, my friend recently got it and he likes it.

[the warlord of the reich]

hehe. you will fal for it! the game is epic. airfields tanks. bombardment. RUSES, use ruses to trap or trick enemies also support your army. theres sevrel RUSES like blitz RUSE. this one allows your troops to double speed while mobilizing or moving. however. RUSES are limited to sectors. you must choose a sector and put one in it. units inside the RUSED sector benfit from its bonuses (speed, fanaticism, invicebility etc) but once a units goes out of a sector that is RUSED it will not gain its bonuses. you can RUSE the other sectors but not forever. it has a limit. you get RUSES by time. the HQ will supply you with RUSES periodically. even so. once you use one in a sector. theres a time limit for it (1:00-10:00) you can only use 2 RUSES in a sector. if you use same type RUSES (like using 2 spy RUSES in a single sector) will make it longer. like using a BLITZ RUSE. a BLITZ RUSE is 05:00 long and using tow of them on a single sector will make it a time add (it will increase the time limit with an another 05:00) also you can use this on your base to increase the speed of your supply convoys. and use camouflage net to protect your buildings from artillery strikes and air raids. a redio silence RUSE to hide your units from enemy at all. the enemy cant see your units in there except by sending recon or units. this usually results in a stalemate. the enemy units hidden will launch a surprise attack which is fatal to all units. i once destroyed a tank convoy using a single units of fallschirmjager. i hidden
them in a town squere. and ambushed the enemy tanks. use forests and city squeres and ideal positons for your infantry to succed at ambushing enemy's tanks. infantry has a short range anti-tankk weapons so place them in small places where enemy tanks must get close to fight your infantry. watch out! placing your infantry in cities and towns means that the enemy has no choice except to launch a heavy bombardment. also they can use air recon and decoy units to support an assault over you.

all i said is a small part of the game RUSE WHICH PROVES ITS A GREAT GAME

[the warlord of the reich]

hi am back when i saw this movie for the PC version of the game i was quiet confused. the guy was able to go down enough to see actually the side of the tank and also became below trees! the Xbox version seems to allow me zoom enough to see only the roof and not very close parts of the units. how did he do it? also his version seems epically smooth! aircrafts' gun fire is quiet beutifull and realistic. what kind of ruse is that?

[Gabbe]

Thats the BETA version. It lacked a lot of the new ruses, and it was slow paced. even with blitz ruse.

[the warlord of the reich]

no i mean, how did he zoom so far? i can't zoom below rooftops of buildings at all, allowing me to see minimal combat scales, i think i'm missing something huge from the game....