Author Topic: New Childboard "Ideas and Suggestions" (Read 4523 times)

titi · « **on:** 23 January 2011, 12:08:59 »

The following is discussed here because its the effected board:

There are more and more suggestions, ideas and cool unit thoughts in this mod board.
I vote to create a new childboard for mods called "Ideas and Suggestions"
Every idea/mod/suggestion will go in there. In Mods we only allow existing things then, with at least ingame screenshots of existing new models or something else people show that there are really some results! Of course every kind of modding hints and so on is welcomed in the mods section too. I just want to get rid of all those things which are just a good idea yet.

What do you think?

Gabbe · « **Reply #1 on:** 23 January 2011, 12:43:43 »

like this>

mod section *in here goes general chatting about mods* then two child boards suggestions and releases.

and you admins and mods have fun cleaning up all the topics

ultifd · « **Reply #2 on:** 23 January 2011, 17:13:10 »

Err...Maybe.

John.d.h · « **Reply #3 on:** 23 January 2011, 17:50:21 »

Or maybe we should have people keep their ideas to themselves unless they are at least working on them. How many of these "I have a cool mod idea but I have no skills and am unwilling to learn!" threads have actually resulted in anything being made? As far as I know, zero.

Coldfusionstorm · « **Reply #4 on:** 23 January 2011, 17:53:15 »

Quote from: John.d.h on 23 January 2011, 17:50:21

Or maybe we should have people keep their ideas to themselves unless they are at least working on them. How many of these "I have a cool mod idea but I have no skills and am unwilling to learn!" threads have actually resulted in anything being made? As far as I know, zero.

i have to agree, put some work into at least formulating a idea instead of "uber unit with ability X is awesome and you guys should totally do it"

if people REALLY want to have their ideas put to life they rest will come of itself

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Work hard, be clear about your goals, and go for it

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so no, we already have a suggestion place for improvements.

Omega · « **Reply #5 on:** 23 January 2011, 19:32:10 »

BIG No. I'm going to be blunt. Make the mod yourself or keep quiet. Everyone here who can mod has a mod of their own, and there's already a few collections of ideas that people submitted. Guess what: They never got used. Modders will make as they will. It certainly does not need an a subforum. At the best, there can be a sticky topic with a full list if modders really want, but this does not merit a subforum, particularly when the topics always end up never used and abandoned.

Thus, New Childboard "Ideas and Suggestions"

titi · « **Reply #6 on:** 23 January 2011, 19:50:24 »

Ok omega what do you suggest we do?
I want to get rid of those forum filling posts with "I have the best idea ever ..." ?
We start to simply remove all those dumb topics or what?

Omega · « **Reply #7 on:** 23 January 2011, 20:02:18 »

I have no clue. I'm leaning towards simply locking every new one created with the notice that we don't need more topics of this kind. Deleting topics is a bad idea though. Best keep them for posterity and so that the creator won't come back to find it missing without an explanation. Though, don't give them a sub forum of their own. Sub forums are for important things, not for filtering out junk.

ultifd · « **Reply #8 on:** 23 January 2011, 20:52:04 »

Quote from: John.d.h on 23 January 2011, 17:50:21

Or maybe we should have people keep their ideas to themselves unless they are at least working on them. How many of these "I have a cool mod idea but I have no skills and am unwilling to learn!" threads have actually resulted in anything being made? As far as I know, zero.

Of course that would be best, but people would still probably do it...just like people had still made controversial topics before or when people wouldn't look/follow the FAQs...

Gabbe · « **Reply #9 on:** 23 January 2011, 20:58:49 »

Come on, we doesnt need those ideas but (trash) pu them in a bin were they can be atleast.

Mr War · « **Reply #10 on:** 23 January 2011, 21:02:27 »

Maybe a sticky thread be sufficient.

The way I see it the mod ideas are coming from the people who play mods, and even if they don't have the skills or persistence to put their own ideas into practice, they are still part of the community and part of what makes modding worthwhile I think.

Omega · « **Reply #11 on:** 23 January 2011, 23:11:04 »

Quote from: Mr War on 23 January 2011, 21:02:27

Maybe a sticky thread be sufficient.

The way I see it the mod ideas are coming from the people who play mods, and even if they don't have the skills or persistence to put their own ideas into practice, they are still part of the community and part of what makes modding worthwhile I think.

^ This.

As part of the board policies, we shouldn't delete them, yet they aren't worthy of a new topic, but we keep getting more of them. The way I see it, a single sticky should make everyone happy.

Coldfusionstorm · « **Reply #12 on:** 24 January 2011, 07:13:34 »

Make a sticky

If you have a Mod idea.

and explain the rules for what to do with the mod idea.

And the rules should be. A WELL THOUGHT OUT IDEA WITH EXPLANATIONS OF LORE ECT,ECT.
not 5 lines of text with "uber orc faction"

ultifd · « **Reply #13 on:** 24 January 2011, 08:11:42 »

The problem with stickies are that people don't read or listen to them sometimes...

John.d.h · « **Reply #14 on:** 24 January 2011, 08:15:43 »

I'm in favor of consolidating all such threads (any new ones anyway) into one sticky. It allows us ~~dispose of~~ organize them cleanly without fuss. Of course, the first post would need a "do it yourself or it won't get done" disclaimer, which will save us the trouble of breaking the news to every newcomer with a big idea.

titi · « **Reply #15 on:** 24 January 2011, 15:01:01 »

But if we close the topics and keep them it will still look the same! Why not simply move them to a child board. Sometimes its indeed interisting what people like/think about and how much it is discussed. So I don't think its really worthless, just in the wrong place. I would still like to see such a child board where we move those "ideas". After a while they are maybe able to jump back to the mods section if they show some real progress.

Coldfusionstorm · « **Reply #16 on:** 24 January 2011, 15:48:00 »

well, i can agree to your version of it titi.

Omega · « **Reply #17 on:** 24 January 2011, 17:41:08 »

I created a generic sticky listing ideas. Should you decide to create a sub forum (which I still strongly disapprove of), it can be moved there, though I propose we try this and see how it works.

Mr War · « **Reply #18 on:** 24 January 2011, 19:01:34 »

One problem I see with all this is that being "moderated" is pretty off-putting to newbies like me. :'( So when you (staff) do move threads there, may I ask that you do it in a courteous and encouraging manner and explain the reason so as not to reduce the inflow of potential talent and community members. We can't all be experts

Coldfusionstorm · « **Reply #19 on:** 25 January 2011, 12:48:40 »

well, the thread were just moved, i see your point but this is really the best solution.

titi · « **Reply #20 on:** 25 January 2011, 16:37:30 »

I still don't get how this stickied post will help.
Where can people discuss new ideas now? I don't want to stop people in general from posting ideas! I just don't want them to post in this place hiding the real Mods with tons of idea threads. And I want to clean up the mods section by moving these posts t another place. This was my initial idea.
Why do you think its a bad idea?

Omega · « **Reply #21 on:** 25 January 2011, 18:16:16 »

Quote from: titi on 25 January 2011, 16:37:30

Why do you think its a bad idea?

I oppose making a subforum because I think subforums should be for useful stuff, not for use as a recycling bin. I might support a WIP subforum where the ideas thread and tips for starting a mod could be stickied, but I currently have no problems with the current mod forum.

Quote from: titi on 25 January 2011, 16:37:30

Where can people discuss new ideas now? I don't want to stop people in general from posting ideas!

They still can post ideas. On the Idea Thread.

Quote from: titi on 25 January 2011, 16:37:30

I just don't want them to post in this place hiding the real Mods with tons of idea threads.

Thus why to have one sticked idea thread. No need to clog any part of the board with a scattered bunch of topics when we can instead have one neatly sorted list in one location that is easy to find for everyone, new or old, as well as being able to submit their own ideas, which get added to that list, while also being able to take the ideas and make them, then request their removal from the list. As well, I combed the board for every idea thread I could find and culminated all the results into a nice, alphabetically sorted list (and it appears some of them have already been made. Go figure). Score: Stickied idea thread: >9000, Subforum: 0.

ultifd · « **Reply #22 on:** 25 January 2011, 22:36:19 »

Well, the problem with that thread is that it will be hard to reply once there are are many different ideas from different people.. And then once people actually start modding (which I believe it will happen more later...)it would be hard to separate the posts for that mod... :/ So IMO, it won't be a recycle bin, just for now it would be...one.

Gabbe · « **Reply #23 on:** 25 January 2011, 23:58:33 »

The poll says otherwise. I too want to actually see the topics of mods, not ideas.

Omega · « **Reply #24 on:** 26 January 2011, 18:07:56 »

Hmm, I cannot find many threads though... I quick board search only found 4, of which 2 were so outdated they are useless and all are buried behind most topics (note: not counting my one stickied). Is it really worth it to get a subforum for this many topics?

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Do you think its a good idea to have such a new child board?

Author Topic: New Childboard "Ideas and Suggestions" (Read 4523 times)

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