Changes to Projectiles and Splashes

[Omega]

These are two feature requests, both should be in MegaGlest by now, but all GAE mods can benefit from them, and Apocalyptic Dawn (formerly known as Military) will use them.

Animated Projectile Models
As the name implied, you should be able to use animated models for projectiles. Currently, it uses a single frame, so the animation is wasted. As well, splash attacks should be able to use animated models as well.

Multiple Particles on Projectiles/Splashes
Also as its name implies, we can currently have as many particle systems as we want on unit particle systems, but splash and projectiles are limited to one. As per the discussion on MG's similar post about this, we would need to be able to specify when the particle starts or begins and where it is, relative from the model. Other than that, it's just a standard particle projectile XML.

If these appear in GAE in the future, a rather ambitious MIRV may appear.

[Psychedelic_hands]

This would be great, I'd have a few uses for it. While we're at it, why not animated Menu .g3ds? 

[ultifd]

I think it'd be only fair for MG to get a feature of GAE everytime the GAE team ports or copies the code...although most of the features would probably take a decent amount of testing I'm sure a few would be pretty simple... 

[Omega]

I think it'd be only fair for MG to get a feature of GAE everytime the GAE team ports or copies the code...although most of the features would probably take a decent amount of testing I'm sure a few would be pretty simple... 

If you really must bring that up here, then we may as well just merge the engines, right?

Besides, GAE and MG are both GPL. They can copy all they want.

[ultifd]

I think it'd be only fair for MG to get a feature of GAE everytime the GAE team ports or copies the code...although most of the features would probably take a decent amount of testing I'm sure a few would be pretty simple...  

If you really must bring that up here, then we may as well just merge the engines, right?

There's no "really" in this, as it's true.

Besides, GAE and MG are both GPL. They can copy all they want.

And even though that's true, somehow it's not. If it was really like that, I'm sure we would have ported some of GAE's features by now. I remember Silnarm getting mad when softcoder supposedly copied some code. Perhaps that's another reason why the MG team doesn't really copy the code whenever GAE has something similar... But that was a long time ago. Still, if it was really like that we would've had at least one feature... Titi was originally the one who implemented particles, anyways.

[John.d.h]

I remember Silnarm getting mad when softcoder supposedly copied some code. Perhaps that's another reason why the MG team doesn't really copy the code whenever GAE has something similar... But that was a long time ago. Still, if it was really like that we would've had at least one feature... Titi was originally the one who implemented particles, anyways.

If I remember correctly, that was because MG tried to implement that feature in their own release using GAE code before GAE's release, which seems a little sneaky because it creates the illusion of MG trying to take credit for GAE's work.  I'm sure it was just a misunderstanding, especially in light of the GAE devs' attempts to get GAE features (e.g. the pathfinder) working in MG, and the bipartisan solving of the old transparency bug.  Nobody is against sharing here, as far as I can tell.

[Psychedelic_hands]

I think it'd be only fair for MG to get a feature of GAE everytime the GAE team ports or copies the code...although most of the features would probably take a decent amount of testing I'm sure a few would be pretty simple...  

If you really must bring that up here, then we may as well just merge the engines, right?

There's no "really" in this, as it's true.

Besides, GAE and MG are both GPL. They can copy all they want.

And even though that's true, somehow it's not. If it was really like that, I'm sure we would have ported some of GAE's features by now. I remember Silnarm getting mad when softcoder supposedly copied some code. Perhaps that's another reason why the MG team doesn't really copy the code whenever GAE has something similar... But that was a long time ago. Still, if it was really like that we would've had at least one feature... Titi was originally the one who implemented particles, anyways.

Are you really suggesting MG and GAE shouldn't collaberate or cooperate at all? If we become too proud and stuck up to even share ideas, infomation and ultimately work that would be mutuality benefital; then there isn't really even a reason for MG and GAE to be on the same forum  . 
I hope the Devs never come to that and comunity will never get that petty. If anything we should looking at ways to collaberate more so the community won't be so divided.

[will]

I proposed the code for this and i absolutely want gae to take it too.    We discussed it with silnarm on IRC when I originally submitted to mg.

I want gae to take future particle work too.  

Everyone can stop building walls of words now.

[ultifd]

Are you really suggesting MG and GAE shouldn't collaberate or cooperate at all? If we become too proud and stuck up to even share ideas, infomation and ultimately work that would be mutuality benefital; then there isn't really even a reason for MG and GAE to be on the same forum  .  
I hope the Devs never come to that and comunity will never get that petty. If anything we should looking at ways to collaberate more so the community won't be so divided.

I'm not suggesting that, the fact is that everything is probably going to be like that. Or mostly, anyways. Kinda was suggesting the opposite of that though. There isn't much to collaborate anymore on anyways...it was either merge, or not.

I proposed the code for this and i absolutely want gae to take it too.    We discussed it with silnarm on IRC when I originally submitted to mg.

I want gae to take future particle work too.  

Everyone can stop building walls of words now.

I know, I was just using this as an example.

[Mr War]

One cool thing about GAE applying this code is that mods using it in MG can port more easily to GAE. So even if the code varies, please try to keep XML syntax common.

[Omega]

One cool thing about GAE applying this code is that mods using it in MG can port more easily to GAE. So even if the code varies, please try to keep XML syntax common.

Most agreeable. GAE is usually able to play MG mods, and that compatibility is a large feature. I'd hope they'll support it eventually.

[ultifd]

Merged topics. Please don't duplicate topics. You should know that...

_{I'm confused, what did you merge? The moderation log shows you edited one of my posts, then split a topic, then merged it again? -- Omega}

Edit: Forgot to delete the other thread, sorry.

[silnarm]

Tickets 341 & 342.

[Omega]

MegaGlest topic about this: https://forum.megaglest.org/index.php?topic=7260

It's still undergoing work, with Will even having uploaded a patch today for allowing the delay and lifetime to be specified.

[will]

Patch for MG here: https://github.com/williame/megaglest/compare/6c3505b1c9540bfda9f0...c8b1629cd05255dace5b74b72d2c1093c82f1a02

I couldn't comment on the actual sourceforge bug thing, so I hope you find this here.

[silnarm]

Thanks Will, re: comments on tickets, I had to disable them yesterday because we were getting people spamming them, I thought at the time they were registered users which was actually incorrect, apparently even anonymous users could 'comment', will change it to authenticated users.